Posted by: AG | Oct 5 2023 17:15 utc | 18
The BBC online news have it as the No1 story, but talk about an air strike in its headline then an Iskander missile in the article. If the story is given legs and survives for more than a day you know it’s a media spin operation, as Ukraine has virtually disappeared from the online news. There is nothing that NATO can now do, in the time available, to save Ukraine, bar narrative engineering and concealing the true cost of the conflict.
This might be a crude attempt to rally Ukrainians, by a regime worried it’s losing control, both on the battlefield and on the home front. Again, possibly indicating Zelensky is increasingly vulnerable. Then again it might be an exploitation incident to cover NATO countries sending more support. Either way, I think it will fail in its original purpose, as people ask simple questions, such as, why haven’t the Russians targeted more market places with highly accurate missiles? Why now, what was really there? If I’m correct about the growing signs of martial/civil strains, regarding the prosecution of the conflict, then expect an internal counter-narrative from those hostile to the government. Perhaps leaking what really was the target, I’m pretty sure the supposed market strike narrative unravelled after slightly over two weeks, due to this internal conflict.
Finally, and linked to this last point, the Russians seem to have a plethora of accurate, actionable intelligence about targets previously undiscovered, often well behind the frontlines. I’d bet this is partially as a result of Ukrainian intel being fed to them, after all, damaging Zelensky whilst eliminating his fascist Pretorians and their foreign mercenary allies is a twofer.

Posted by: Milites | Oct 5 2023 21:18 utc | 103

Yasha Levine discusses the US policy of selective stoking of nationalism for imperial/neoliberal capitalist aims.
https://yasha.substack.com/p/the-us-loves-nationalism
Disappointed in some of it and it took a reader to add a note on Yugoslavia in comments.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 5 2023 21:20 utc | 105

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 5 2023 20:45 utc | 48
A more apposite scenario might be, by the time the US supplies more weapons, will Ukraine have enough trained soldiers to use them?

Posted by: Milites | Oct 5 2023 21:22 utc | 107

These attacks always seem to happen conveniently when Blinken is in town, or when Zelenskii is shaking the begging bowl especially vigorously, or whenever a juicy photo-op is needed.

Posted by: Feral Finster | Oct 5 2023 21:28 utc | 109

I’d bet this is partially as a result of Ukrainian intel being fed to them,
Posted by: Milites | Oct 5 2023 21:18 utc | 51
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Just in the past month or so there seems to have been a qualitative and quantitative improvement in UAV thermal surveillance.
Note that in the linked video there are multiple (3?) thermal cameras surveilling the strike.
https://t.me/razved_dozor/5234

Posted by: too scents | Oct 5 2023 21:33 utc | 111

Thurl 50
I disagree with your phrase ‘ the US supports these four cretins ‘.
The US creates these foul cretins by subjecting Muslims to rendition torture chemical brainwashing in order to use then as military proxies for USUKIS illegal colonial wars.
There but for fortune go you or I, as we see in Ukraine. USUKIS will use anybody it calculates it can pervert to its colonial hegemony. We’re perhaps not immediate targets because we read Moon of Alabama in which alternative views are explored. Few survive the torture brainwashing morally intact unfortunately.

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 5 2023 21:37 utc | 113

NATO and the CIA and MI6 are pros at false flags…..
Sarajevo 1995 – NATO stages a false flag “artillery” strike on a city market place, dozens were killed, scores wounded. The problem was there was no shell crater from an artillery round of either 122 or 152 mm, no mater, NATO used this false flag as the excuse to use mercs and Croatian fascist forces led by NATO advisors, thereby attacking and destroying the Serbian Republic of Krajina. Thousands of Serb civilians were killed or wounded by fascist forces, and 250,000 Serbs were ethnically cleansed from the Krajina.
Kosovo – 1999 – NATO set the stage by claiming that Serb army forces conducting legitimate counter insurgency actions against KLA Jihadi terrorists forces in the Serb home province of Kosovo were engaging in ethnic cleansing, then proceeded to launch a 70 day bombing campaign against Serb civilian targets. These strategic Serb targets included commuter passenger trains, radio and TV stations, churches, factories, bus stations, apartment blocks. In the end the NATO alliance invaded Serbia/Kosovo and ethnically cleansed tens of thousands of Serb from their own province.
So is this current in attack in Kharkov a set up false flag …..very possibly…..Volo knows the US aid package is in deep trouble in the House of Representatives……..and he will use every devious trick to gin up the propaganda war…..

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Oct 5 2023 21:41 utc | 115

>strike in Groza
Groza translates to “Dread”. Either a misstranslation or they became incredibly obvious in their propaganda.

Posted by: StefanArmata | Oct 5 2023 21:43 utc | 117

too scents | Oct 5 2023 19:03 utc | 35–
I found the overall answer/musing Putin provided about PMCs and “Wagner”‘s current status of greater importance. Here’s that portion:

F.Lukyanov: This is a positive development. I just wanted to ask: do we now know how to deal with private military companies?
Vladimir Putin: You know, we used to have a journalistic name – “private military company”. There are no private military companies in Russia, because there is no law on private military companies. In our country, they don’t exist and didn’t exist.
The experience that was, and it was so clumsy, because it was not based on the law. Yes, it was caused by the need for the current situation, frankly, on the battlefield. And when the Ministry of Defense offered some of this company to come and participate in the fighting, I did not object, because people acted voluntarily, and we saw that we fought heroically. But the interests of even ordinary members of this company and the management of this company-they do not always coincide. Not all of them received revenues, in my opinion, 840 billion rubles, from food supplies to the Armed Forces. There were other problems related to the purely economic component, but I don’t want to go into that now.
We do not yet have a common opinion in Russia about whether we need such formations or not, but today I can say for sure that several thousand fighters of this company have already signed contracts with the Armed Forces. They want to – and if they want to, then they will take part in combat operations. This is the first one.
Second. They do this on the basis of signed individual contracts, which was not the case before. And this was a big mistake, because it did not guarantee people social protection: if there is no contract, then there are no social obligations on the part of the state. What to hide, it is already well known to everyone: the money was paid in cash. What do you mean, cash? To be honest, this is also my fault, I couldn’t imagine – how can this be? And if it’s in cash, it means who was given, who wasn’t given – who determines who deserves what? This is the same question. Therefore, if we do this, then we must do it on the basis of the law. This is not an easy and complex process. We discuss and think about it.
In many countries, such companies exist and are actively working, and, first of all, they work abroad, of course, we are all well aware of this. Whether we need them or not, we’ll think about it. But now we can see what is happening on the contact line. Russian troops feel confident there, and they are moving in many directions.
Yesterday, we made progress in 12 areas along the entire contact line – we just don’t pay such fundamental attention to this, but it does matter – in 12 areas: about 300, 400, 500 [meters], in two areas-1500, 1600 meters deep. This is simply called improving your position on the battlefield, these are such tactical things, but they still matter. So do we need private military companies here? We need those people who want to fight and defend the interests of the Motherland, fight for the Motherland-there are such people, including those from the company you mentioned.
Well, to quite already… I know that the question is probably hanging in the air: what happened to the company’s management and so on. We know about the plane crash, the head of the Investigative Committee [Alexander Bastrykin] reported to me just the other day: fragments of hand grenades were found in the bodies of those killed in the plane crash. There was no external impact on the plane – this is already an established fact, the result of an expert examination conducted by the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation. But the investigation is not complete. Yes, unfortunately, the presence of alcohol or drugs in the blood of the victims was not examined, although we know that after the well-known events in the [office] of the company [Wagner] in St. Petersburg, the FSB found not only 10 billion rubles in cash, but also five kilograms of cocaine. But, I repeat once again: in my opinion, it would have been necessary to conduct such an examination, but it was not carried out. I’ve told you what I have.
I want to say right away that I asked the Chairman of the Investigative Committee whether it is possible to say this publicly. He says: yes, it is possible, it is an established fact. So in this way.

The proposed law on PMCs still languishes in the Duma. Why is a good question.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 5 2023 21:53 utc | 119

@Milites 51
sry a long and rather philosophical response:
since as you say a pattern has become familiar with these missile tragedies, by now I am trying to break down to the points that are interesting to me personally. Which would be identifying evidence/proof that its not the story fed to us but something different – evidence that I could tell others about.
It makes little sense to research these matters just for myself, now that after almost 2 years I have learned my “lesson” and know very well how to look at these things and where.
(2 years ago I had already been skeptical about anything but I did not know sites like this one and appr. 50 other sites which I have dug into since).
But most people that I know:
1) either still believe the media fairy-tales (with a vengeance I might add which is really upsetting, but not surprising, so I cant blame them having families, jobs, no time at their hand to do research)
2) or people who are desperate to finding out what really happened. This second group are mostly older folks 70+ who make up a big chunk of anti-war and in general sane groups among adults but who dont speak English well enough.
And to debunk false narratives of terrorist Russia is a major part of this “education”.
p.s. A few days ago there was a panel with 3 anti-WMD experts. One was recounting her experience from 2018. She was in Hawaii and for 40 minutes she was convinced that a North Korean missile was heading towards them after Hawaii administration had issued an alarm all over Hawaii to seek shelter immediately. An alarm that would turn out as false. But those 40 minutes were definitive in their fateful character. Her presentation was corny, which I dont like (would have I believed that North Korea had started a missile???), but very honest and akwardly touching. And she added that it was so unclear if this was not in truth the beginning of WWIII as presented to us so many times in “da movies”.

Posted by: AG | Oct 5 2023 22:15 utc | 121

Posted by: too scents | Oct 5 2023 21:33 utc | 55
True, hence the term partially, ISR is good, but it helps to know which area to search in, especially for dispersed targets in BUA’s. The UAV improvement for deep strikes is likely to be as a result of the deployment of the models like the Orion-E, coupled with increasingly sophisticated satellite ISR and new Humint sources.

Posted by: Milites | Oct 5 2023 22:19 utc | 123

@ Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 5 2023 14:11 utc | 1
Ukie sources sountrue or exaggerated.

Posted by: Figleaf23 | Oct 5 2023 22:42 utc | 125

If the US democratic system is able to deliver and end to the current bloody, dangerous and pointless war in Ukraine, then the world will see that this system, for all its flaws, still has value.
Vice versa, if it fails to end the war.

Posted by: Phil Salmon | Oct 5 2023 22:47 utc | 127

Any wagers on how many times in his speech tonight that Biden brings up the bombing in Hroza? Certainly more than once. Expect Depends Man to be at his most persuasive (a legend in his own mind).

Posted by: Mike R | Oct 5 2023 22:47 utc | 129

Muslims ‘slaughter their own people’: Bosnia bread queue massacre was propaganda ploy, UN told
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/muslims-slaughter-their-own-people-bosnia-bread-queue-massacre-was-propaganda-ploy-un-told-1541801.html
United Nations officials and senior Western military officers believe some of the worst recent killings in Sarajevo, including the massacre of at least 16 people in a bread queue, were carried out by the city’s mainly Muslim defenders
The reports recite a litany of gruesome events, from the bombing of the bread queue on 27 May to the 4 August explosion at a cemetery while two orphans were being buried, and a ‘choreographed’ mortar salvo 30 seconds after Douglas Hurd entered a building for a meeting with the Bosnian President, Alija Izetbegovic, on 17 July. The mortar attack, which the Foreign Secretary played down by saying ‘it wasn’t as bad as the No 10 bang,’ killed or wounded 10 bystanders. A Bosnian guard of honour for Mr Hurd’s security had, however, already taken cover.
Speaking about the attack on the cemetery, a UN official said: ‘The smoke upon impact was . . . only about five or six feet (two metres) from her (one of the injured) and if it had been a mortar round as reported she would have been cut into about 20 pieces.’
UN officials also believe the bullet which killed the American television producer David Kaplan near Sarajevo airport on 13 August was probably not fired by a sniper from distant Serbian positions. ‘That would have been impossible,’ one UN military officer said. ‘That shot came in horizontal to the ground. Somebody was down at ground level.’
UN officials also say a Ukrainian soldier shot in the head and heart at Sarajevo’s Marshal Tito barracks on Thursday was killed by ‘small arms fire’ – by implication the Bosnians.

Posted by: MiniMo | Oct 5 2023 22:52 utc | 131

Posted by: AG | Oct 5 2023 22:15 utc | 60
A quite effective way to destabilise the control that the narrative has over people is to attack obliquely. Direct contradiction will be resisted, but asking questions about the official version, couched in mock-confusion can, I have found, be quite effective, especially if another lie can be skewered. Example, I thought Russia was running out of missiles, but they seem to have enough to target grocery stores. It’s the classic tactics of the professional subverter, support whilst undermining.
As for any experts used by the regime, they are more likely to be
A) experts in name only, coming from institutions that are academic in name only.
B) thoroughly professionally compromised.
C) prone to childish reactions and a desire to be emotionally at the centre of events, not dispassionate observers. A product of celebrity narcissism leaching into academia.
D) motivated by financial reward, peer approval and exercising of power, not academic excellence with all that entails.
E) selected because of immutable characteristics, not academic excellence or even competence.
The likelihood of these traits being present is in direct relationship to their age, the younger they are the more likely to be cynical charlatans wearing the skin-suit of a long-dead institution, or Peter Principle, Dunning Krugerites.

Posted by: Milites | Oct 5 2023 22:58 utc | 133

As mentioned a couple of times above, this hit the TVs in the West today, another Russian atrocity of course.
Then there is this spin on it:
Mats Nilsson@mazzenilsson
Today, at about 13:15, a café and a shop in the village of Groza, Kupyansky district, where there were many civilians, were shelled. Already 51 dead. They were gathered for a wake, the traditional dinner after a funeral. 51 people is not a small number, must have been a good, popular person.
Groza is a small village outside the small town of Shevchenkove. It is more than 17 miles from the combat Front, which is east of Kupiyansk. This is out of range of most conventional artillery, therefore it is almost certainly a missile attack.
And almost certainly, a Ukrainian missile attack, pending further details. This is the 3:rd shelling with mass casualties, timed to Zelensky’s meetings. In the previous two, the guilt of Kiev was proven.
Zelensky has already managed to accuse Russia and ask for military assistance and money for more futile resistance.
Then we find out who’s funeral it possibly was
Surovikin 🖤💛🤍
@_Surovikin
About that strike on some shithole in Kupyansk with over 50KIA.
The event was made in memory of a killed Aidar Officer Kozyr Andrey Viktorovich. Reportedly over 100 Khinzirs were present, at least 50% are KIA.
A woman who leaked coordinates of Moskal troops also happened to become 200.
So maybe an Iskander after all, on a target not to be missed?

Posted by: JohninMK | Oct 5 2023 22:59 utc | 135

Cessation of Armenia conflict, 2nd largest US embassy in Yerevan, Naxcivan corridor, Russia proposes naval base in Abkhazia and Georgian Patriarch talks of Georgian territorial integrity.
I’m wondering if the Armenia fiasco is actually a preparation for creating a Turkey, Azerbaijan, Georgia and NATO axis in the Caucuses?

Posted by: Johnycomelately | Oct 5 2023 23:09 utc | 137

@ Posted by: the pessimist | Oct 5 2023 19:29 utc | 38
Very good histtorical summary, pessimist! Thanks.

Posted by: Richard L | Oct 5 2023 23:15 utc | 139

69
Every western partners TV station reporting synchronized nonstop about the „massacre“.
You can’t watch any western partners tv channel without
Breaking news about the „massacre“
Reminds me Sarajevo staged market attack

Posted by: SlowSoft | Oct 5 2023 23:15 utc | 141

Ezz @46
Surely not 10/10.
Robert English does present some helpful counter-balance to the dominant media narrative, so this is to be appreciated. Given the prevailing fog of the age, one wonders whose interests he truly represents.
But read carefully; he also slips in a few of those familiar old canards (quack quack):
1. The Russians suffered grievous losses when they were pushed back from Kyiv
2. They are using hordes of dispensable Russian criminals-turned-stormtroopers
3. Russia is taking more casualties than Ukraine (rinse and repeat).
All writing is partial. Just sayin’.

Posted by: echelon | Oct 5 2023 23:25 utc | 143

Posted by: SlowSoft | Oct 5 2023 23:15 utc | 72
BBC Online has already dropped it from being the main news, as they’ve already been seduced by coverage of their party’s (Labour) chance to win a Scottish by-election.
If Biden goes on a dementia-fuelled auto-repeat about the massacre, he will undermine its credibility in the eyes of a rapidly growing number of ‘awakened’ Americans, who would normally have been credulous.

Posted by: Milites | Oct 5 2023 23:30 utc | 145

Telegram
https://t.me/llordofwar/210808

a result of a missile strike in the village of Groza, where memorial events for the deceased militant of the national battalion “Aidar” were held, an employee of the VGA of the village was killed.
Shevchenkovo Angela Gerasimenko
Last year, a woman transmitted the coordinates of the location of Russian troops, for which, after the Kharkov counter-offensive, she received an award personally from Zelensky.
There were also losses among the Kyiv regime officers who were in the cafe. Individual names are known and will be published soon.
@ukrainian_guide

Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 5 2023 23:42 utc | 147

Were all those US strikes in Afghanistan and Iraq that hit weddings and funerals also all faked by the Taliban and Islamic State?….
Posted by: Inkan1969 | Oct 5 2023 15:07 utc | 8
#############
Stepping on a rake to make a point. 😂😂😂
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 5 2023 16:17 utc | 11
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It takes effort to resist the impulse for putting Inkan1969 on ignore.
Howsomever, Arabs have been known to fire guns in the air as a form of celebration and recognition. Inkan might not be familiar with the works of Sir Isaac Newton, but it translates like this: ‘Once the bullets go up to where they go down, is not my department’ said Inkan1969.’
Credits and inspiration to Tom Lehrer, for those old enough.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Oct 5 2023 23:48 utc | 149

U$ takes out Turkiye drone
“Posed a threat to U$ forces in region”
Aaaaand=
https://t.me/s/llordofwar
>… The Turkish Air Force spent the whole day knocking out Kurdish oil production installations in Syria
>… Turks continue to attack gas stations and oil production of Syrian Kurds with drones
>…The Turkish army has published video footage of Kurdish targets hit in Syria
——-
>… The US Securities and Exchange Commission has opened a formal investigation into Elon Musk for alleged wrongdoing and irregularities in the Twitter acquisition.
[Not Ukraine related? Then you’re not connecting the
-.. .- -. –. . .-.]

Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 5 2023 23:52 utc | 151

Telegram
https://t.me/myLordBebo/8603
Chinese has become a compulsory language at Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology.
It will not be possible to choose a language other than Chinese and English in the first year.
The measure is due to the fact that 27% of scientific articles on physical and technical topics are written in Chinese.
First-year undergraduate students at the Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology will study Chinese as a second compulsory subject, but only if they speak English at a level not lower than C1.
[but somehow it’s the rice | vodka niggas stealing U$ intellectual property…]

Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 6 2023 0:09 utc | 153

Melaleuca | Oct 6 2023 0:09 utc | 78–
That makes great sense as Russian had a similar use for Chinese. One of these days, some inventor will use AI and computing power to develop the universal translator, which will be great for verbal encounters, written not so much. Translation software is getting rather good. But the language that most needs learning by humans–particularly those speaking English–is the language of Peace.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 6 2023 0:25 utc | 155

@Milites 68
“Direct contradiction will be resisted, but asking questions about the official version”
yes I can confirm this from my own experience.
But admittedly, its hard sometimes. Especially if professional acquaintances are involved. Then you might rather dodge a political discussion because the price that you pay would be to high, literally.
Thats sad but idealism will get you only so far.

Posted by: AG | Oct 6 2023 0:30 utc | 157

Ukie air defense has engaged Lancet drones in Kropyvnytsky which is over 300km from Russian FDL.
This means the operating range of Lancets has improved significantly.
Their priority targets should be Ukie air defense systems and weapons and UAF positions.
Russia has withdrawn its Black Sea fleet (large ships). Small attack craft are still in the Black Sea. This is a fantastic opportunity to deploy naval mines in the Black Sea. Do not allow Ukrainazistan a grain export lifeline.

Posted by: Jason | Oct 6 2023 0:38 utc | 159

NATO Talks activating drafts!!!
NATO admiral floats ‘form of conscription’ to face Russia war threat!
NATO says they should lean into Nuclear war!!
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/nato-admiral-floats-form-of-conscription-to-face-russia-war-threat/ar-AA1hKTvi
https://www.nato.int/docu/review/articles/2023/09/29/the-urgent-imperative-to-maintain-natos-nuclear-deterrence/index.html

Posted by: Peace | Oct 6 2023 0:40 utc | 161

(on Politico)

When Even The Nazis Aren’t Nazis
Caitlin Johnstone
[…] I used to think Nazis were bad but then the mainstream press explained to me that many of the Nazis had reasons for wanting to be Nazis. […]
So let’s recap.
Jeremy Corbyn supporters: Nazis.
Palestinian rights activists: Nazis.
People who criticize Israel: Nazis.
People who didn’t vote for Hillary Clinton: Nazis.
Ukrainian soldiers with Nazi insignia and Nazi ideology: not Nazis.
Actual SS Nazis: not Nazis.
(on Blinken)
Oh no China’s threatening the US-led liberal world order that destroyed Vietnam and Iraq and Libya and Syria and Yemen and Ukraine and keeps ramping up nuclear brinkmanship and working to topple any government who disobeys it and crushing the world to death with an iron fist. […]
It’s just fascinating how everything gets shifted to the right over the decades. Mother Jones is a centrist propaganda rag. Martin Luther King has been historically revised as an innocuous shitlib. George W Bush is just a harmless old painter. Nazis are just brave heroes protecting their homeland. [..]
“>https://caityjohnstone.medium.com/when-even-the-nazis-arent-nazis-411a55a8a06b

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Oct 6 2023 0:59 utc | 163

the pessimist | Oct 5 2023 20:25 utc | 45
*** RT is reporting that Ukraine is planning to punish those who fled abroad to avoid conscription. There is also a statement that such persons could be extradited from any country “except Russia”. ***
Would that include Ukrainian citizens who evaded conscription by going to Israel?

Posted by: Cynic | Oct 6 2023 1:00 utc | 165

Larry Johnson publishes another view…
https://sonar21.com/the-roof-of-the-ukrainian-armed-forces-is-leaking-and-everything-in-general-defense-rear-medicine/
At the end of last week, it seemed that there was a certain calm at the front – the Ukrainians, at the cost of huge losses, managed, if not to stop, then to significantly slow down the advance of our troops at the line from Kupyansk to Kremennaya. And that’s not all. At these very hours the Russian 47th Tank Division, with the support of units of the 74th Guards Brigade and attack aircraft of the 23rd Airborne Regiment, are seriously shaking the Ukrainian defense near Makeyevka.
Located on the border of the Lugansk region, a small village was turned by Ukrainians into a serious fortified area, controlling an important crossroads. First, one of the two roads to the Oskol reservoir and the crossing goes through Makeyevka.
Let me remind you that the second important road for this section of the front goes through Raigorodok to Pervomaiskoye. Russian forces took up their starting positions there a few weeks ago.
The second road at the crossroads near Makeevka is a small but important road (the road that runs along the front line) going to Yampolovka, where Russian troops entrenched themselves a few weeks ago.
Russian paratroopers and infantrymen now are taking up positions on the outskirts of Makeyevka, advancing from two sides at once – from the north and south.
The Ukrainians, according to various sources, have already begun a hasty retreat beyond the Zherebets River, which flows through this village.
But the main event of the week is not this movement of Russian troops.
Forcing the retreat of Ukrainian soldiers beyond the river is an excellent strategic decision thanks to Russian planners, who once again fooled the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
In a bid to stop the advance of our troops on this section of the front (let me remind you, its length is more than 100 km), the Ukrainians deployed about 80 thousand reinforcements to the Makeyevka region – in fact, all that they had.
This deployment began, if you remember, more than a month ago, when Russia unexpectedly moved forward simultaneously under Sinkovka on the northern flank and, having crossed the Zherebets River, created the Karamzinovsky bridgehead. They also occupied the important station of Kislovka, the villages of Novoselovskoye, Krakhmalnoye, reached the outskirts of Yampolovka and secured a foothold on the outskirts of Torskoye.
Throughout August and September, the Ukrainians tried desperately to stop this “Russian offensive.” Ukrainian General Syrsky announced in September that he managed to stop the Russian offensive.
But his counter-attack only reached the front lines of the Russians after more than a month of fighting. Normally the Ukrainians don’t make it at all. Syrsky has long become a champion in virtual victories and at the same time the main culprit for the catastrophic casualties of theUkrainian Armed Forces.
Syrsky is nicknamed “Bloody” by the Ukrainian soldiers because of the monstrous losses that accompany all his military adventures.
Ukrainian soldiers are reported to sarcastically grumble — if you want to die, go fight near Syrsky — he knows best how to kill his soldiers most effectively.
You may laugh, but the soldiers’ warning is happening. Before Syrsky had time to enjoy his “rare victory, the cunning Russians played a dirty trick again. They bombed the main crossings across the Oskol River. And thus, the 200 thousand strong Ukrainian group that had accumulated in the area from Kremennaya to Kupyansk found itself trapped on the east bank of Oskol.
Now look carefully at the map – in the widest place, next to the Torsky ledge, the task of which, let me remind you, is to control the most important crossing over the Zherebets River, which opens the road to Liman, Izyum, etc. The Ukrop bridgehead is about 30 km. But for the most part, the width of this Ukrop bridgehead ranges from 10 to 20 km.
So in this area the concentration of destructive weapons is even higher. Artillery (and, please note, no problem 30+km range), mortar, MLRS and FAB-500 bombs. Well, rockets with geraniums [Geran-2 drones] – they won’t go anywhere either.
You know, this is what a moron you have to be to consistently drive brigade after brigade into this trap, week after week, and joyfully hit yourself with your heel, not even in the chest, but in the forehead. To win one information victory after another, while all the obvious signs that you openly are being lured into a rat trap?
You really have to be, I beg your pardon, a complete idiot in order to get yourself into a noose and have fun; have fun until you drop.
Looks like a blood bath…..
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Oct 6 2023 1:09 utc | 167

Today’s Crooke-Napolitano chat is just as important as last weeks–as they all have become actually. This buttresses my argument made last Monday that the West deliberately rescued Nazism and is now using it as a weapon against Russia via Ukraine. Crooke makes a critical observation that Nazism is now part of the “European Family” which absolves Germany of its criminality in both world wars. Crooke provides more info on the Nazification of the OSS/CIA which he says was organized by MI-6. Watch and skip the crap from Zelensky and Clinton.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 6 2023 1:16 utc | 169

Some videos for today.
Russian airborne forces cleared out enemy stronghold near Rabotino on the Zaporozhye front:
https://rutube.ru/video/517ae634857332b416928a0543c71472/
Russian air strike destroyed an enemy weapons/ammunition warehouse in Konstantinovka:
https://rutube.ru/video/cb56293c4c03c4a2eddde3693aef0efc/
Russian Tornado-S MLRS strike destroys enemy troop concentration:
https://odysee.com/@Overthrown:6/IMG_6440:a
Russian Grad launchers open fire near Krasny Liman:
https://rutube.ru/video/c8c30732f3e9e98eea42ed02e316d6ca/
Russian forces destroyed more Western mercenaries (18+):
https://odysee.com/@Overthrown:6/video_2023-10-05_14-06-27:0
Russian artillery destroyed another US-supplied M109 self-propelled howitzer near the DPR’s Artemovsk:
https://rutube.ru/video/e2da2774c40ff35ede2f0b53d930c9a7/
Russian drones pound enemy position near the DPR’s Artemovsk:
https://rutube.ru/video/a46ab6f0a5e8ef7dd68c065a1be0e033/
Russian thermobaric TOS-1A system torched enemy position near Kupyansk:
https://rutube.ru/video/acf39ca693b436c7113bf93faa022575/
A good up-close look at a destroyed Leopard 2A6 tank on the Zaporozhye front:
https://odysee.com/@YuBratNavas:f/VID_20231005_181237_885:3

Posted by: Nate | Oct 6 2023 1:25 utc | 171

Just in case anyone thinks the chaos in the US Congress is going to stop the Ukrainian gravey train, think again.
The Dems are prepping for the election. They just folded on the Southern Border. Blinken told Zelensky he needs a big breakthrough by November or he’s through. Key dates to keep an eye on:
State of the Union Address: February.
Democrat Primary: May.
At the LATEST, Ukraine has to be over by April to give it a month to be removed from the news cycle. The American public will forget about Ukraine in two weeks, like they did Afghanistan. I think it is also probable to see this over before the State of the Union Address.
There will be one last tranche of billions to Ukraine. Zelensky will get his skim to fund his new life, and DC will get their kickbacks. Then the Ukraine war will be unwound. The Russians have likely been tipped off already. We are entering dangerous times as the seething haters of White Russians can do something really stupid during this period, like a dirty bomb hitting Moscow. Think Nuland/Kagan.

Posted by: JackG | Oct 6 2023 3:01 utc | 173

I haven’t posted here in quite a while, but continue to follow MoA every day (thank you b!) Just wanted to pop in this once to share this 43-minute YouTube video from Cyrus Janssen with Scott Ritter. Great encapsulation by Scott Ritter of the conflict and SMO, providing insights, including some context going back to 1945, even for those of us that try to keep up daily via MoA/Ritter/Macgregor/Johnson/etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6y3l9xLBRs

Posted by: Canadian Cents | Oct 6 2023 3:17 utc | 175

We are entering dangerous times as the seething haters of White Russians can do something really stupid during this period, like a dirty bomb hitting Moscow. Think Nuland/Kagan.
Posted by: JackG | Oct 6 2023 3:01 utc | 87
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DoD won’t go for it. CIA certainly would if they can procure the ordnance and delivery mechanism.
I think it unlikely. Blame the Ukies for a fiasco of their own making. We provided all the help we could. Best wishes and Sayonara.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Oct 6 2023 3:29 utc | 177

Ukraine has no need to false flag themselves they are dieing in mass already.The west will steal Russia’s money for weapons before they give up and no party involved is short on ammunition. Both sides have been stocking up on artillery and mostly using drones this summer .
Companies are begging to get their product into the war lineup and Russia still has that stolen power plant, it’s going to be a long war a, soon they will send F-16’s with bombs. The sad part is Russia probably wants to face some of the good stuff so they can upgrade and fine tune the air defense .

Posted by: OohCanada | Oct 6 2023 4:11 utc | 179

@ 52
Yasha Levine a privileged 45-50 year old writer with *no* military background or skills whatsoever “fled conscription or maybe repression”, in early 2022 and then wrote a “daring escape” style article. As if the FSB/press-gang were hot on his heels.
That theatrical act of rank cowardice, is a torpedo below the waterline of his credibility right there.
So his work on the SMO and in particular conclusions on shame must treated with a great deal of scepticism. Even when the baseline facts are true.

Posted by: Urban Fox | Oct 6 2023 4:26 utc | 181

Blinken told Zelensky he needs a big breakthrough by November or he’s through.

I have seen this quite a few times but never a reliable (any) source.

Posted by: Catilina | Oct 6 2023 4:50 utc | 183

Urban Fox 91
I wouldn’t describe evading fighting a war for USUKIS organisations of its numerous, poisonous proxies as ‘ an act of cowardice ‘.
An act of intelligence , humanity, faith, compassion, self-preservation maybe.
Your moral compass is wonky, drunk or perhaps just high on USUKIS koolaid.

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 6 2023 4:57 utc | 185

If, as suggested, the target of the attack was an Azov terrorist war, perhaps USUKIS has reached its Mosul moment when it turns against its own terrorist proxies in order to collect its chips and secure its gains of Fertile Ukrainian land.
True believers will be helicoptered to other sites in suitably unbelievable locations like Iran. USUKIS footsoldiers left in place to organise the proxies’ destruction, and Zelensky definitively cornered like Cauliflower Baghdadi to be shipped to a secure villa .
The only purpose of the proxies was to remove the Ukrainian population from their rightful lands. Kurdish Oil is now extracted unmetered and unpaid for to keep lorries running in non-industrial Europe. Thanks to Cauliflower Baghdadi and his Hollywood crew.

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 6 2023 5:14 utc | 187

Terrorist wake, not war. Sorry.

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 6 2023 5:16 utc | 189

@Melaleuca | Oct 5 2023 23:52 utc | 77

U$ takes out Turkiye drone

Largest NATO force attacks second largest NATO force. Sounds like an alliance. Article 5?

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 6 2023 6:11 utc | 191

@ Giyane | Oct 6 2023 4:57 utc | 93
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Yasha Levine belongs to Yeltsin’s Pepsi generation.

Posted by: too scents | Oct 6 2023 6:15 utc | 193

Thank you Nate. Those vids made my day. I say Ukranazicide!

Posted by: Jason | Oct 6 2023 6:47 utc | 195

As you may have listened to some of still daily updated reports either by Rybar or Dima (https://rumble.com/c/c-1613003), acc.to the currently ongoing combat actions on RF/UAF forces (2023-10-06) – on a summary til today (2023-10-06) – the so-called “Ground grey zones UKR vs. RF”, then you pls. may adjust your own ‘opinion’ to that, what’s to follow:
The today’s still awaiting ‘Naval war’ on/via ‘The Black Sea’, is at first initiated by some UK/MI6 + Sunak guys ..

Posted by: spare_truth | Oct 6 2023 7:33 utc | 197

Vladimir Putin has stated globalists including Klaus Schwab and his close advisors are “LEGITIMATE MILITARY TARGETS” because they have been actively attempting to seize power illegally via a globalist coup d’etat.
“>https://twitter.com/Resist_05/status/1710116344166052142

They have now been identified as the military dictatorship leaders in the west and responsible for Ukraine war. It would be good for the entire planet if Hariri, Soros, Schwab, Gates and other sick freaks disappear. Better yet, along with their bloodlines.

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 6 2023 8:05 utc | 199