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October 6, 2023
Ukraine: Financing The War About Hegemony

First some news bits about Ukraine. We will then come to the real issue the war is fought about.

Headlines Politico:

Ukraine is ‘freaking out’ as McCarthy chaos threatens US aid

In Kyiv, officials are at a loss as to what might happen next. Their staunchest military ally suddenly looks unreliable, despite assurances from President Biden and others the U.S. will remain steadfast until Ukraine’s invaders are defeated.

“We are freaking out. For us it is a disaster,” said Ivanna Klympush-Tsintsadze, a senior Ukrainian MP who chairs the committee on the country’s integration with the European Union.

The Ukrainian government heavily relies on foreign financial and military aid to keep the economy running and expects to receive $42.8 billion from international donors in the coming year. A big chunk of that would come from the United States.

“Unfortunately, some [U.S.] lawmakers found it possible to seek trade offs while further aid to Ukraine is in the air,” Vladyslav Faraponov, head of the board of the Institute of American Studies, told POLITICO. “The key message that Kyiv needs to deliver is that we can win together and do it as soon as possible to save a lot of good men and women.”

So the real problem is that Kiev has no chance to win. See for example The Times which talked with (archived) Ukrainian mortar crews near Robotyne, where the Ukrainian counteroffensive is stuck:

The KAB [glide bombs], as well as mines, underground fortifications and a deluge of suicide drones, have pinned down Ukraine’s assault brigades. It is why last month’s penetration of Russian fortifications failed to lead to a full breakdown in their defences.

All over the Robotyne-Verbove line, Ukrainian forces are bogged down.

The U.S. public is no longer convinced that the gargantuan spending on Joe Biden's private war makes any sense:

The two-day poll, which concluded on Oct. 4, revealed that only 41% of respondents agreed with the statement that Washington "should provide weapons to Ukraine," while 35% disagreed, and the remainder were uncertain.

Support for U.S. weapon shipments is down from May, when a Reuters/Ipsos poll showed 46% of Americans backed sending arms, while 29% were opposed and the rest unsure.

A few more month and a majority will reject any new money or weapon shipment. But don't fear. Congress critters will find ways to dump more money into a hole:

On Sunday, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) said it would take about “$60 or $70 billion” to get Ukraine through 2024, not the $24 billion.

Sen. Jon Tester (D-MT), chair of the Senate Defense Appropriations Committee, said the package they’re considering would fund the war for 15 months, bringing it into 2025. The package would help the Biden administration’s plans to continue supporting an open-ended conflict.

David Ignatius, the CIA's unofficial spokesperson at the Washington Post, reports of two opinions in Kiev:

The conflict is bleeding the country out. Ukrainians I spoke with during a four-day visit know they can’t keep fighting forever seeking what might be an unachievable victory. But they won’t stop, either.

Oleksiy Goncharenko, an opposition member from embattled Odessa on the Black Sea, presses members of the ruling party of President Volodymyr Zelensky. “I am very concerned,” he says. “Why? Take a look at the front. It doesn’t change. For a year it doesn’t change. But it was paid for by a huge amount of lives. … Ukraine can’t fight ‘as long as it takes.’ That will be a catastrophe.”

For Ukraine it already IS a catastrophe.

But if Ukraine seriously questions whether it can survive a fight that might take many years, then it needs to think about a way to freeze this conflict on its own terms — with a security guarantee from the United States as part of that deal.

The Ukraine can not freeze the conflict on its own terms. The U.S. can not give Ukraine any reasonable security guarantee.

A security guaranteed would leave the U.S. at the grace of lunatics in Kiev. They would be enabled to launch, at any time, a new conflict with Russia. A conflict the U.S., with nuclear weapons, would then be obliged to join. No Senate will ever approve such a treaty.

Ukraine won’t sue for peace. As many people have told me this week, it’s too personal. As a superpower, the United States can try to steer this conflict toward a settlement that protects Ukraine and doesn’t reward Russian aggression. But don’t ask Ukrainians to give up their cause. They won’t do it.

If the U.S. stops financing Ukraine its people will have no choice.

But the war is about more than Ukraine and the U.S. will finance it because its neoconservative leaders believe in its larger cause.

The war in Ukraine is a proxy-act for the U.S. in support of its quest for global hegemony.

For Russia, China, and much of the rest of the world, the war is thus about the elimination of that quest.

As President Putin explained in his recent Valdai speech in Sochi:

The Ukraine crisis is not a territorial conflict, and I want to make that clear. Russia is the world’s largest country in terms of land area, and we have no interest in conquering additional territory. We still have much to do to properly develop Siberia, Eastern Siberia, and the Russian Far East. This is not a territorial conflict and not an attempt to establish regional geopolitical balance. The issue is much broader and more fundamental and is about the principles underlying the new international order.

Lasting peace will only be possible when everyone feels safe and secure, understands that their opinions are respected, and that there is a balance in the world where no one can unilaterally force or compel others to live or behave as a hegemon pleases even when it contradicts the sovereignty, genuine interests, traditions, or customs of peoples and countries. In such an arrangement, the very concept of sovereignty is simply denied and, sorry, is thrown in the garbage.

That is why the war is going to be a long one.

Putin though has no doubt who will win:

Russia was, is and will be one of the foundations of this new world system, ready for constructive interaction with everyone who strives for peace and prosperity, but ready for tough opposition against those who profess the principles of dictatorship and violence. We believe that pragmatism and common sense will prevail, and a multipolar world will be established.

Will it? I certainly hope so but there is doubt that it will be during the next five or ten years.

Comments

The Times article desperately tries to cope and yet shows its own lies. The “Maliy” story for example: the rest of his unit captured the Russian trenches and yet only discovered he was missing even they pulled back? Riiiiiight.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Oct 6 2023 15:02 utc | 1

The Times article desperately tries to cope and yet shows its own lies. The “Maliy” story for example: the rest of his unit captured the Russian trenches and yet only discovered he was missing even they pulled back? Riiiiiight.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Oct 6 2023 15:02 utc | 2

exciting time to be alive.

Posted by: annie | Oct 6 2023 15:09 utc | 3

exciting time to be alive.

Posted by: annie | Oct 6 2023 15:09 utc | 4

Biswapriya Purkayast | Oct 6 2023 15:02 utc | 1
To be fair the story said another unit occupied the trenches they’d taken. Who knows the truth?

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Oct 6 2023 15:13 utc | 5

Biswapriya Purkayast | Oct 6 2023 15:02 utc | 1
To be fair the story said another unit occupied the trenches they’d taken. Who knows the truth?

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Oct 6 2023 15:13 utc | 6

Wapo article archived here
https://archive.ph/3HVdB
The conflict is bleeding the country out. Ukrainians I spoke with during a four-day visit know they can’t keep fighting forever seeking what might be an unachievable victory. But they won’t stop, either.
“If you stop, nothing makes sense,” says Mariia Mezentseva, a member of parliament from Kharkiv in eastern Ukraine, near the Russian border. “We attended so many funerals in the last 18 months. At every one, I say with tears in my eyes: I will not stop until we reach our goal” of expelling Russians from all occupied territory.
“We have to be honest. People are tired,” says Pavlo Klimkin, a former foreign minister, during a dinner at a restaurant here. “Last year, it was confidence, maybe overconfidence. Now, people feel it’s a classic attrition war. … Nearly every family has someone killed. I would not try to sell the people an option that falls short of victory. Because it’s personal.”
That’s absolutely tragic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Knight_(Monty_Python)
Although supremely skilled in swordplay, the Black Knight suffers from unchecked overconfidence and a staunch refusal ever to give up… as the scene progresses and Arthur becomes increasingly annoyed, his dialogue lapses from medieval (“You are indeed brave, Sir Knight, but the fight is mine.”) to modern (“Look, you stupid bastard, you’ve got no arms left!”), and finally to just plain sarcastic (“What are you gonna do, bleed on me?”), while the Black Knight remains just as defiant (“I’m invincible!” he yells with only one leg left, to which Arthur simply replies “You’re a loony.”)

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Oct 6 2023 15:22 utc | 7

Wapo article archived here
https://archive.ph/3HVdB
The conflict is bleeding the country out. Ukrainians I spoke with during a four-day visit know they can’t keep fighting forever seeking what might be an unachievable victory. But they won’t stop, either.
“If you stop, nothing makes sense,” says Mariia Mezentseva, a member of parliament from Kharkiv in eastern Ukraine, near the Russian border. “We attended so many funerals in the last 18 months. At every one, I say with tears in my eyes: I will not stop until we reach our goal” of expelling Russians from all occupied territory.
“We have to be honest. People are tired,” says Pavlo Klimkin, a former foreign minister, during a dinner at a restaurant here. “Last year, it was confidence, maybe overconfidence. Now, people feel it’s a classic attrition war. … Nearly every family has someone killed. I would not try to sell the people an option that falls short of victory. Because it’s personal.”
That’s absolutely tragic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Knight_(Monty_Python)
Although supremely skilled in swordplay, the Black Knight suffers from unchecked overconfidence and a staunch refusal ever to give up… as the scene progresses and Arthur becomes increasingly annoyed, his dialogue lapses from medieval (“You are indeed brave, Sir Knight, but the fight is mine.”) to modern (“Look, you stupid bastard, you’ve got no arms left!”), and finally to just plain sarcastic (“What are you gonna do, bleed on me?”), while the Black Knight remains just as defiant (“I’m invincible!” he yells with only one leg left, to which Arthur simply replies “You’re a loony.”)

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Oct 6 2023 15:22 utc | 8

Maybe, it’s Ukraine financing the USA? LOL, I read somewhere on TG that Ukraine is buying US treasuries, flip a coin if it’s real or fake. Ouroboros? Self licking ice cream cone? Actually best is the Human Centipede. Only way left to sell US bonds, scam them through your Ukrainian subsidiary? The entire neoliberal economy is a Ponzi, so why not? Does the Big Guy still get 10%? Yikes!

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 6 2023 15:23 utc | 9

Maybe, it’s Ukraine financing the USA? LOL, I read somewhere on TG that Ukraine is buying US treasuries, flip a coin if it’s real or fake. Ouroboros? Self licking ice cream cone? Actually best is the Human Centipede. Only way left to sell US bonds, scam them through your Ukrainian subsidiary? The entire neoliberal economy is a Ponzi, so why not? Does the Big Guy still get 10%? Yikes!

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 6 2023 15:23 utc | 10

@2 annie
Au contraire my disillusioned barfly. It is one of the most scariest times because of all the real dangers to humanity on our very doorstep. All those sad end of the world sci-fi movies will come into play for real as economic collapse, nuclear war and pandemic realities could end for billions just as we should be seeing a true renaissance for Man. The insidious banking cabal octopus entangling our world will see us falter but I’m hoping and crossing my fingers that something good comes out in the next few years!!

Posted by: bisfugged | Oct 6 2023 15:25 utc | 11

@2 annie
Au contraire my disillusioned barfly. It is one of the most scariest times because of all the real dangers to humanity on our very doorstep. All those sad end of the world sci-fi movies will come into play for real as economic collapse, nuclear war and pandemic realities could end for billions just as we should be seeing a true renaissance for Man. The insidious banking cabal octopus entangling our world will see us falter but I’m hoping and crossing my fingers that something good comes out in the next few years!!

Posted by: bisfugged | Oct 6 2023 15:25 utc | 12

The US/UK/Zio three-headed monster that is financing country 404 cannot keep this up for much longer. The support for this corrupted and evil country HAS to be throttled back quickly so their plans and goals do not come to fruition. People NEED to stand up and be heard and stop this madness. Hope it comes together…

Posted by: bisfugged | Oct 6 2023 15:30 utc | 13

The US/UK/Zio three-headed monster that is financing country 404 cannot keep this up for much longer. The support for this corrupted and evil country HAS to be throttled back quickly so their plans and goals do not come to fruition. People NEED to stand up and be heard and stop this madness. Hope it comes together…

Posted by: bisfugged | Oct 6 2023 15:30 utc | 14

Thanks for the posting b
You wrote

The war in Ukraine is a proxy-act for the U.S. in support of its quest for global hegemony.
For Russia, China, and much of the rest of the world, the war is thus about the elimination of that quest.

My only clarification is that America is a proxy act in support of the God Of Mammon elite just like the rest of the Western nations….all corrupted under control of the global money mafia.
Humanity is in a civilization war over public/private finance

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 6 2023 15:34 utc | 15

Thanks for the posting b
You wrote

The war in Ukraine is a proxy-act for the U.S. in support of its quest for global hegemony.
For Russia, China, and much of the rest of the world, the war is thus about the elimination of that quest.

My only clarification is that America is a proxy act in support of the God Of Mammon elite just like the rest of the Western nations….all corrupted under control of the global money mafia.
Humanity is in a civilization war over public/private finance

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 6 2023 15:34 utc | 16

Oh boy. This is the satirical peak of US colonizational capitalism.
BlackRock and other US companies who apparently own 1/3 of arable land in Ukraine, complain that too much of that land is reserved for cemetery use and diminishing potential investment returns.
https://twitter.com/Ramy_Sawma/status/1709830333665849563

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 6 2023 15:36 utc | 17

Oh boy. This is the satirical peak of US colonizational capitalism.
BlackRock and other US companies who apparently own 1/3 of arable land in Ukraine, complain that too much of that land is reserved for cemetery use and diminishing potential investment returns.
https://twitter.com/Ramy_Sawma/status/1709830333665849563

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 6 2023 15:36 utc | 18

@4 Yetanotheranon
How the fug do these people feel they can continue with their utterly insane and stupid ideas when the actual sad picture is continually punching them in the fucking mouth?? The brainwashing or whatever is real deep in these losers.

Posted by: bisfugged | Oct 6 2023 15:36 utc | 19

@4 Yetanotheranon
How the fug do these people feel they can continue with their utterly insane and stupid ideas when the actual sad picture is continually punching them in the fucking mouth?? The brainwashing or whatever is real deep in these losers.

Posted by: bisfugged | Oct 6 2023 15:36 utc | 20

The goosestepping folks in Kiev are doing what freaks everywhere and at all times do naturally, i.e. freaking out. Don’t know about all of you, but I’m enjoying their pain immensely.

Posted by: Jack Gordon | Oct 6 2023 15:40 utc | 21

The goosestepping folks in Kiev are doing what freaks everywhere and at all times do naturally, i.e. freaking out. Don’t know about all of you, but I’m enjoying their pain immensely.

Posted by: Jack Gordon | Oct 6 2023 15:40 utc | 22

@9 Unimperator
OMG! That would be so ridiculously hilarious if it wasn’t so goddamn sad.

Posted by: bisfugged | Oct 6 2023 15:41 utc | 23

@9 Unimperator
OMG! That would be so ridiculously hilarious if it wasn’t so goddamn sad.

Posted by: bisfugged | Oct 6 2023 15:41 utc | 24

@9 Unimperator
Soylent Green is people!!

Posted by: bisfugged | Oct 6 2023 15:42 utc | 25

@9 Unimperator
Soylent Green is people!!

Posted by: bisfugged | Oct 6 2023 15:42 utc | 26

On the US imperialist political front I can already see how this is going to play out.
Ukraine’s horrid losses despite the massive amount of money and arms it received, will be cast as solely attributable to the “fascist” (a term so abused as to be meaningless in the US, at this point) anti Ukraine war Republicans and their supporters in the population.
The line will be something like Ukraine was winning untill the hard right in the US became a 5th column for Putin. Ukraine was doing great, but now, with funding stopped for a month they are suddenly on the verge of losing the war!
The losses of the last year will finally make the paper but only to shame the faithless traitors in the US, all brainwashed by Putin.
B is right. Ousting Putin and breaking up Russia for exploitation by US oligarchs is seen as an essential power boost to a dying western imperialism. That boost is seen as essential to effectively applying pressure to and subordinating China and thereby restoring western imperial hegemony over the world for another century.
It is an insane plan that cannot work but that’s the nature of moribund imperialism. It doesn’t just sleepwalk into world war repeatedly to offset it’s decline, rather like a madman it runs headlong into world war in hopes of retaining and expanding it’s diminishing power.
“Those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad”
An international anti war movement against western imperialism is the first step to killing the beast. A civil war against the ruling class of every western nation is required to bring this beast down, but that can only be done by winning over western workers who suffer the most under the world war policies of their RC.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 6 2023 15:42 utc | 27

On the US imperialist political front I can already see how this is going to play out.
Ukraine’s horrid losses despite the massive amount of money and arms it received, will be cast as solely attributable to the “fascist” (a term so abused as to be meaningless in the US, at this point) anti Ukraine war Republicans and their supporters in the population.
The line will be something like Ukraine was winning untill the hard right in the US became a 5th column for Putin. Ukraine was doing great, but now, with funding stopped for a month they are suddenly on the verge of losing the war!
The losses of the last year will finally make the paper but only to shame the faithless traitors in the US, all brainwashed by Putin.
B is right. Ousting Putin and breaking up Russia for exploitation by US oligarchs is seen as an essential power boost to a dying western imperialism. That boost is seen as essential to effectively applying pressure to and subordinating China and thereby restoring western imperial hegemony over the world for another century.
It is an insane plan that cannot work but that’s the nature of moribund imperialism. It doesn’t just sleepwalk into world war repeatedly to offset it’s decline, rather like a madman it runs headlong into world war in hopes of retaining and expanding it’s diminishing power.
“Those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad”
An international anti war movement against western imperialism is the first step to killing the beast. A civil war against the ruling class of every western nation is required to bring this beast down, but that can only be done by winning over western workers who suffer the most under the world war policies of their RC.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 6 2023 15:42 utc | 28

The only reason for the US billions to Kiev was the intention, combined with significant economic sanctions, to damage Russia so much that it comes to the brink of collapse, the leadership loses popular support and US puppets take power in the Kremlin. We owe today’s mountains of corpses to these childishly stupid ideas about Russia, which are essentially favored by Blinken and his friends.
But if there’s one thing Americans can do, it’s finding the right time when investments are no longer worth it. The EU can then do the rest – as it will certainly not survive the enormous demands for investment. (Google Trans)

Posted by: Oliver Krug | Oct 6 2023 15:45 utc | 29

The only reason for the US billions to Kiev was the intention, combined with significant economic sanctions, to damage Russia so much that it comes to the brink of collapse, the leadership loses popular support and US puppets take power in the Kremlin. We owe today’s mountains of corpses to these childishly stupid ideas about Russia, which are essentially favored by Blinken and his friends.
But if there’s one thing Americans can do, it’s finding the right time when investments are no longer worth it. The EU can then do the rest – as it will certainly not survive the enormous demands for investment. (Google Trans)

Posted by: Oliver Krug | Oct 6 2023 15:45 utc | 30

“If you stop, nothing makes sense,” says Mariia Mezentseva, a member of parliament from Kharkiv ….. ….I will not stop until we reach our goal” of expelling Russians from all occupied territory.

Please Note – This MP is calling for the ethnic cleansing of nearly 10 million people. She is 33 years old and she is a fanatical zealot.

Posted by: Exile | Oct 6 2023 15:46 utc | 31

“If you stop, nothing makes sense,” says Mariia Mezentseva, a member of parliament from Kharkiv ….. ….I will not stop until we reach our goal” of expelling Russians from all occupied territory.

Please Note – This MP is calling for the ethnic cleansing of nearly 10 million people. She is 33 years old and she is a fanatical zealot.

Posted by: Exile | Oct 6 2023 15:46 utc | 32

This citation from Politico provided above makes a extremely key admission:
“In Kyiv, officials are at a loss as to what might happen next. Their staunchest military ally suddenly looks unreliable, despite assurances from President Biden and others the U.S. will remain steadfast until Ukraine’s invaders are defeated.”
The writer(s) perhaps unknowingly admit an alliance exists, that the Outlaw US Empire is indeed a belligerent, which has long been the key fact in the matter. The Establishment Narrative’s insistence on pushing the BigLie that this affair is “Russian aggression” is no longer believed by the global majority and Putin was keen to give a huge pushback against that at Valdai–The war began with the 2014 Coup. Russia is already making limited offensive moves along the front where the Ukies have no more reserves to commit. The changing weather may or may not help the Ukies as it looks to be a mixed bag of increasing dampness in the North versus drier in the South. The overcast will mask both sides satellites, but Russia has the clear advantage with its drones so that might not affect its operations, while the masking affect helps.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 6 2023 15:48 utc | 33

This citation from Politico provided above makes a extremely key admission:
“In Kyiv, officials are at a loss as to what might happen next. Their staunchest military ally suddenly looks unreliable, despite assurances from President Biden and others the U.S. will remain steadfast until Ukraine’s invaders are defeated.”
The writer(s) perhaps unknowingly admit an alliance exists, that the Outlaw US Empire is indeed a belligerent, which has long been the key fact in the matter. The Establishment Narrative’s insistence on pushing the BigLie that this affair is “Russian aggression” is no longer believed by the global majority and Putin was keen to give a huge pushback against that at Valdai–The war began with the 2014 Coup. Russia is already making limited offensive moves along the front where the Ukies have no more reserves to commit. The changing weather may or may not help the Ukies as it looks to be a mixed bag of increasing dampness in the North versus drier in the South. The overcast will mask both sides satellites, but Russia has the clear advantage with its drones so that might not affect its operations, while the masking affect helps.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 6 2023 15:48 utc | 34

I note it seems to be the women who are calling for war to the uttermost. I’m trying to remember where I read a miner’s leader during a strike saying once the wives were involved, it was win or be utterly defeated.
Was it Zola’s Germinal, or was it the 1980s UK miner’s strike?

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Oct 6 2023 15:49 utc | 35

I note it seems to be the women who are calling for war to the uttermost. I’m trying to remember where I read a miner’s leader during a strike saying once the wives were involved, it was win or be utterly defeated.
Was it Zola’s Germinal, or was it the 1980s UK miner’s strike?

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Oct 6 2023 15:49 utc | 36

A bit of context regarding NATO countries funding to Kiev:
$65 billion RF defense budget 2021
~165€ billion EU funds for Kiev last 20 months
~$100 billion USA funds for Kiev last 20 months

Posted by: Exile | Oct 6 2023 15:50 utc | 37

A bit of context regarding NATO countries funding to Kiev:
$65 billion RF defense budget 2021
~165€ billion EU funds for Kiev last 20 months
~$100 billion USA funds for Kiev last 20 months

Posted by: Exile | Oct 6 2023 15:50 utc | 38

Thanks b for that overlook. Sure the anglo-saxons are trying to preserve their hegemonic system – what for the first time since hundreds of years is really in danger. Thanks to their mistakes, they themselves made and on the other hand, countries that are ruled by clear-minded men. The anglo-saxons are aware of this danger and one of the actions are scored earth – to destroy europe as much as possible. They do not want to have a competition inside the western bloc of the future. Look of what happens to germany – the whole government is corrupt and under full control of the US and/or (much worser) the NGOs. They are destroying the land systematically and on most relevant topics. BUT: the people across the EU are starting to realize that something is wrong with their government, media and justice system.. so the cronies become nervous.
Accompanied with that is the statement of Lynn Forester Rothschild, that the attempt to get power due “climate” and “stakeholder value” was to brutal and short-termed, what leads to unrest among the citizens and unwanted results. So she declares to step back a little to buy time for a better plan. First results are Sunnaks moves and others.
…. from b: Will it? I certainly hope so but there is doubt that it will be during the next five or ten years.
That is a pessimistic lookout. What happens now indicates a time frame of 1 to 3 years.

Posted by: Ableman | Oct 6 2023 15:52 utc | 39

Thanks b for that overlook. Sure the anglo-saxons are trying to preserve their hegemonic system – what for the first time since hundreds of years is really in danger. Thanks to their mistakes, they themselves made and on the other hand, countries that are ruled by clear-minded men. The anglo-saxons are aware of this danger and one of the actions are scored earth – to destroy europe as much as possible. They do not want to have a competition inside the western bloc of the future. Look of what happens to germany – the whole government is corrupt and under full control of the US and/or (much worser) the NGOs. They are destroying the land systematically and on most relevant topics. BUT: the people across the EU are starting to realize that something is wrong with their government, media and justice system.. so the cronies become nervous.
Accompanied with that is the statement of Lynn Forester Rothschild, that the attempt to get power due “climate” and “stakeholder value” was to brutal and short-termed, what leads to unrest among the citizens and unwanted results. So she declares to step back a little to buy time for a better plan. First results are Sunnaks moves and others.
…. from b: Will it? I certainly hope so but there is doubt that it will be during the next five or ten years.
That is a pessimistic lookout. What happens now indicates a time frame of 1 to 3 years.

Posted by: Ableman | Oct 6 2023 15:52 utc | 40

There’s seems to be a sense of relief that the counteroffensive is over, foreign aid is decreasing and Ukraine’s defeat comes closer… But the worse is yet to come. There is no way lunatics like Budanov would just anti-climatically surrender the war. At the breaking point when Ukraine will be about to collapse they might do something extreme like blowing up nuclear plants (EVEN the ones on their own territory) or make one last massive missile attack against Moscow or Mariuopol, this time hitting everything.

Posted by: T6 | Oct 6 2023 15:55 utc | 41

There’s seems to be a sense of relief that the counteroffensive is over, foreign aid is decreasing and Ukraine’s defeat comes closer… But the worse is yet to come. There is no way lunatics like Budanov would just anti-climatically surrender the war. At the breaking point when Ukraine will be about to collapse they might do something extreme like blowing up nuclear plants (EVEN the ones on their own territory) or make one last massive missile attack against Moscow or Mariuopol, this time hitting everything.

Posted by: T6 | Oct 6 2023 15:55 utc | 42

Ahenobarbus @ 14
I mostly don’t talk about Ukraine at all in meatspace any longer. All the angles you cover have been thrown at me verbally by the local loyal progressive Democrats. Which is the whole population in this enclave. Most of them will still also claim that my defeatism is not real world, Ukraine is winning and Russia is bleeding out. The one Republican I knew reasonably well no longer talks politics in public, just causes trouble.

Posted by: oldhippie | Oct 6 2023 16:00 utc | 43

Ahenobarbus @ 14
I mostly don’t talk about Ukraine at all in meatspace any longer. All the angles you cover have been thrown at me verbally by the local loyal progressive Democrats. Which is the whole population in this enclave. Most of them will still also claim that my defeatism is not real world, Ukraine is winning and Russia is bleeding out. The one Republican I knew reasonably well no longer talks politics in public, just causes trouble.

Posted by: oldhippie | Oct 6 2023 16:00 utc | 44

@2 annie
Au contraire my disillusioned barfly. It is one of the most scariest times because of all the real dangers to humanity on our very doorstep. All those sad end of the world sci-fi movies will come into play for real as economic collapse, nuclear war and pandemic realities could end for billions just as we should be seeing a true renaissance for Man. The insidious banking cabal octopus entangling our world will see us falter but I’m hoping and crossing my fingers that something good comes out in the next few years!!
Posted by: bisfugged | Oct 6 2023 15:25 utc | 6
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Why become consumed by fear about things beyond your control? Where is the profit in that?
annie @2 is correct. As an observer, this is an exciting time. We’re in uncharted territory and the news is coming fast.
If you have no influence on it, enjoy the show.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 6 2023 16:01 utc | 45

@2 annie
Au contraire my disillusioned barfly. It is one of the most scariest times because of all the real dangers to humanity on our very doorstep. All those sad end of the world sci-fi movies will come into play for real as economic collapse, nuclear war and pandemic realities could end for billions just as we should be seeing a true renaissance for Man. The insidious banking cabal octopus entangling our world will see us falter but I’m hoping and crossing my fingers that something good comes out in the next few years!!
Posted by: bisfugged | Oct 6 2023 15:25 utc | 6
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Why become consumed by fear about things beyond your control? Where is the profit in that?
annie @2 is correct. As an observer, this is an exciting time. We’re in uncharted territory and the news is coming fast.
If you have no influence on it, enjoy the show.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 6 2023 16:01 utc | 46

…. from b: Will it? I certainly hope so but there is doubt that it will be during the next five or ten years.
That is a pessimistic lookout. What happens now indicates a time frame of 1 to 3 years.
Posted by: Ableman | Oct 6 2023 15:52 utc | 20
“Yes, the avalanche has started, the pebbles no longer get to vote.”
This Winter should be epic. You never know exactly when the friction will give out, but once it does, you are in a slide.

Posted by: Bemildred | Oct 6 2023 16:03 utc | 47

…. from b: Will it? I certainly hope so but there is doubt that it will be during the next five or ten years.
That is a pessimistic lookout. What happens now indicates a time frame of 1 to 3 years.
Posted by: Ableman | Oct 6 2023 15:52 utc | 20
“Yes, the avalanche has started, the pebbles no longer get to vote.”
This Winter should be epic. You never know exactly when the friction will give out, but once it does, you are in a slide.

Posted by: Bemildred | Oct 6 2023 16:03 utc | 48

“the anglo-saxons”
Posted by: Ableman | Oct 6 2023 15:52 utc | 20
…that’s a funny term for western imperialism, ableman.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 6 2023 16:05 utc | 49

“the anglo-saxons”
Posted by: Ableman | Oct 6 2023 15:52 utc | 20
…that’s a funny term for western imperialism, ableman.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 6 2023 16:05 utc | 50

Posted by: Exile | Oct 6 2023 15:50 utc | 19
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And of the two, the money the Russians are paying is much more real than the money the West is printing out of thin air.
Which may explain the straight numerical disparity. Easy for the West to supply billions and billions that are created on a FED computer in minutes.
The Russians have to actually invest time, intelligence, and labor into their government spending.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 6 2023 16:06 utc | 51

Posted by: Exile | Oct 6 2023 15:50 utc | 19
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And of the two, the money the Russians are paying is much more real than the money the West is printing out of thin air.
Which may explain the straight numerical disparity. Easy for the West to supply billions and billions that are created on a FED computer in minutes.
The Russians have to actually invest time, intelligence, and labor into their government spending.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 6 2023 16:06 utc | 52

If Mr. Selensky can find time in his schedule, he should take a trip to Syria. Talk with the Kurdish fighters there. The ones that took care of ISIS, stopped the terror attacks all over Europe.
To then be thrown under the bus, when the US had decided ISIS was no longer a threat, and they could improve their relationship with Erdogan by letting him kill the Kurdish population in Syria.

Posted by: Marvin | Oct 6 2023 16:06 utc | 53

If Mr. Selensky can find time in his schedule, he should take a trip to Syria. Talk with the Kurdish fighters there. The ones that took care of ISIS, stopped the terror attacks all over Europe.
To then be thrown under the bus, when the US had decided ISIS was no longer a threat, and they could improve their relationship with Erdogan by letting him kill the Kurdish population in Syria.

Posted by: Marvin | Oct 6 2023 16:06 utc | 54

ladies and gentlemen
welcome to the sunk cost fallacy in action

Posted by: earl | Oct 6 2023 16:08 utc | 55

ladies and gentlemen
welcome to the sunk cost fallacy in action

Posted by: earl | Oct 6 2023 16:08 utc | 56

@Ableman | Oct 6 2023 15:52 utc | 20

BUT: the people across the EU are starting to realize that something is wrong with their government, media and justice system..

Starting to realize? This is far too late, and I am not even convinced it is happening. If they were starting to realize it 22 years ago it would not have been too soon.

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 6 2023 16:09 utc | 57

@Ableman | Oct 6 2023 15:52 utc | 20

BUT: the people across the EU are starting to realize that something is wrong with their government, media and justice system..

Starting to realize? This is far too late, and I am not even convinced it is happening. If they were starting to realize it 22 years ago it would not have been too soon.

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 6 2023 16:09 utc | 58

Was reading about grenade shrapnel being found in the bodies of those on Prigozhin’s plane here on MoA. But now I’m reading elsewhere about how Putin was speculating that Prigozhin and co were drunk and high and playing with hand grenades during the flight.
Only in Russia ….

Posted by: gT | Oct 6 2023 16:12 utc | 59

Was reading about grenade shrapnel being found in the bodies of those on Prigozhin’s plane here on MoA. But now I’m reading elsewhere about how Putin was speculating that Prigozhin and co were drunk and high and playing with hand grenades during the flight.
Only in Russia ….

Posted by: gT | Oct 6 2023 16:12 utc | 60

Your “facts” are all fine and good b, but you are trying to reach people in the west with profound psychological blinders. It is deeply sad to think about the destruction and chaos that our rampaging empire has sewn all over the world. For me, this conflict awakens in myself the feeling that long-espoused positions and narratives of my country have been the oil that greases the gears of empire. But now it is a dirty sludge and my anger reaches into me in such a way that I see no recourse or available means to reach my fellow man in their shared delusion.
Crawling out of Plato’s cave is not for the faint-of-heart. And yet it is the only measure of a man we know and can be sure of: the desire for peace is only found inward and can not be won on the borders of countries.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Oct 6 2023 16:13 utc | 61

Your “facts” are all fine and good b, but you are trying to reach people in the west with profound psychological blinders. It is deeply sad to think about the destruction and chaos that our rampaging empire has sewn all over the world. For me, this conflict awakens in myself the feeling that long-espoused positions and narratives of my country have been the oil that greases the gears of empire. But now it is a dirty sludge and my anger reaches into me in such a way that I see no recourse or available means to reach my fellow man in their shared delusion.
Crawling out of Plato’s cave is not for the faint-of-heart. And yet it is the only measure of a man we know and can be sure of: the desire for peace is only found inward and can not be won on the borders of countries.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Oct 6 2023 16:13 utc | 62

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 6 2023 15:36 utc | 9
Near the bottom of this post by simplicius76 from a few days ago is a commercial that was on TV station 1+1 in 404.
biodegradable burial bags

“The future of Ukraine can be created now, not only by the living.
Ukrainian ecologists suggested to bury part of the soldiers,
fallen in the war against the aggressor in special biodegradable capsule bags.
In time they’ll dissolve into fruitful substances and will make the land more fruitful.
In the future at the resting place of our heroes parks, squares and even agricultural grounds.”

I think they came up with a win win solution.

Posted by: lex talionis | Oct 6 2023 16:13 utc | 63

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 6 2023 15:36 utc | 9
Near the bottom of this post by simplicius76 from a few days ago is a commercial that was on TV station 1+1 in 404.
biodegradable burial bags

“The future of Ukraine can be created now, not only by the living.
Ukrainian ecologists suggested to bury part of the soldiers,
fallen in the war against the aggressor in special biodegradable capsule bags.
In time they’ll dissolve into fruitful substances and will make the land more fruitful.
In the future at the resting place of our heroes parks, squares and even agricultural grounds.”

I think they came up with a win win solution.

Posted by: lex talionis | Oct 6 2023 16:13 utc | 64

@24 LD
Okay so you got your popcorn and lazyboy and you’re watching the festivities with zeal I get it but have you meticulously planned and stocked up properly for the shitshow that’s going to crush your family’s future shortly? I’m a firm believer in being prepared.

Posted by: bisfugged | Oct 6 2023 16:16 utc | 65

@24 LD
Okay so you got your popcorn and lazyboy and you’re watching the festivities with zeal I get it but have you meticulously planned and stocked up properly for the shitshow that’s going to crush your family’s future shortly? I’m a firm believer in being prepared.

Posted by: bisfugged | Oct 6 2023 16:16 utc | 66

LoveDonbass@26
True, but remember that probably RF could produce a similar weapon at a fraction of the cost needed to produce it in the west. 😉

Posted by: Mario | Oct 6 2023 16:16 utc | 67

LoveDonbass@26
True, but remember that probably RF could produce a similar weapon at a fraction of the cost needed to produce it in the west. 😉

Posted by: Mario | Oct 6 2023 16:16 utc | 68

Looks like Ankara has responded wildly to the downing of their ANSI drone in Syria yesterday. There is massive damage to oil infrastructure of US-controlled assets to kill any revenues for Mammon. Nato attacking Nato?? Should be good theatre from here on out!!

Posted by: bisfugged | Oct 6 2023 16:21 utc | 69

Looks like Ankara has responded wildly to the downing of their ANSI drone in Syria yesterday. There is massive damage to oil infrastructure of US-controlled assets to kill any revenues for Mammon. Nato attacking Nato?? Should be good theatre from here on out!!

Posted by: bisfugged | Oct 6 2023 16:21 utc | 70

Vladyslav Faraponov, head of the board of the Institute of American Studies does not appear to have studied the recent history of US involvement in internacional conflicts.

Posted by: c | Oct 6 2023 16:22 utc | 71

Vladyslav Faraponov, head of the board of the Institute of American Studies does not appear to have studied the recent history of US involvement in internacional conflicts.

Posted by: c | Oct 6 2023 16:22 utc | 72

Posted by: Mario | Oct 6 2023 16:16 utc | 34
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I was wondering if there is some connection between easy money and lower-quality production. If the money is easy to obtain (via bribes, kickbacks, embezzlement), then the incentives to compete and produce the best goods, with time, surely disappear.
Incentives across every domain are everything, IMO.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 6 2023 16:23 utc | 73

Posted by: Mario | Oct 6 2023 16:16 utc | 34
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I was wondering if there is some connection between easy money and lower-quality production. If the money is easy to obtain (via bribes, kickbacks, embezzlement), then the incentives to compete and produce the best goods, with time, surely disappear.
Incentives across every domain are everything, IMO.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 6 2023 16:23 utc | 74

I have been absolutely appalled at the lies, mendacity, gaslighting, and ulterior motives of our government (USA) policies in Ukraine.
If they really thought that we could collapse Russia with sanctions and military aid to Ukraine, they were incompetent, just as they were strategically incompetent since Vietnam except for one bright spot in 1991. On the other hand, if they didn’t believe it would work, that’s not incompetence, it’s malevolent evil.
What’s worse is that it is now clear that the US and NATO are not only strategically incompetent, they are tactically and operationally incompetent in modern war, too. For the most obvious example, the “west” equipped and trained the Ukrainians to penetrate a Russian defense that they didn’t understand, and got completely mauled. I marvel at Petraeus’ worlds in a news clip in the early part of the couner-offensive about the Russians are brittle and have poor morale. Was he merely incompetent, out of touch, or knowingly lying? No one can trust Austin, Petraeus, Blinken, Kirby, or any other Biden administration figure on any topic. I’m on the fence about Milley, but I cannot fathom why he didn’t come up with a logical plan to withdraw from Afghanistan in logical phases. Either he offered it to Biden and Biden didn’t take it, or he didn’t have a logical plan; either way I’m astonished he didn’t resign.
While this long-running foreign debacle runs on, large swaths of America have descended into 3rd-world status, where illegal immigrants, street thugs and criminals, and homeless addicts create unlivable cities.
We are truly our own worst enemy. Any politician who spends a dollar on Ukraine while our country is being destroyed within is a traitor.

Posted by: A A Ron | Oct 6 2023 16:31 utc | 75

I have been absolutely appalled at the lies, mendacity, gaslighting, and ulterior motives of our government (USA) policies in Ukraine.
If they really thought that we could collapse Russia with sanctions and military aid to Ukraine, they were incompetent, just as they were strategically incompetent since Vietnam except for one bright spot in 1991. On the other hand, if they didn’t believe it would work, that’s not incompetence, it’s malevolent evil.
What’s worse is that it is now clear that the US and NATO are not only strategically incompetent, they are tactically and operationally incompetent in modern war, too. For the most obvious example, the “west” equipped and trained the Ukrainians to penetrate a Russian defense that they didn’t understand, and got completely mauled. I marvel at Petraeus’ worlds in a news clip in the early part of the couner-offensive about the Russians are brittle and have poor morale. Was he merely incompetent, out of touch, or knowingly lying? No one can trust Austin, Petraeus, Blinken, Kirby, or any other Biden administration figure on any topic. I’m on the fence about Milley, but I cannot fathom why he didn’t come up with a logical plan to withdraw from Afghanistan in logical phases. Either he offered it to Biden and Biden didn’t take it, or he didn’t have a logical plan; either way I’m astonished he didn’t resign.
While this long-running foreign debacle runs on, large swaths of America have descended into 3rd-world status, where illegal immigrants, street thugs and criminals, and homeless addicts create unlivable cities.
We are truly our own worst enemy. Any politician who spends a dollar on Ukraine while our country is being destroyed within is a traitor.

Posted by: A A Ron | Oct 6 2023 16:31 utc | 76

please educate me …
I thought a pin had to be pulled for a grenade to explode. Is it possible that one or more exploded on impact?
The only other thing I can imagine is a suicide bomber. No?
Also -I wonder about a cockpit voice recorder – maybe asking stew to report on a party on board?
Seems to me much is being made of Putyin’s comments which do not say what folks are imputing

Posted by: ms idaho | Oct 6 2023 16:37 utc | 77

please educate me …
I thought a pin had to be pulled for a grenade to explode. Is it possible that one or more exploded on impact?
The only other thing I can imagine is a suicide bomber. No?
Also -I wonder about a cockpit voice recorder – maybe asking stew to report on a party on board?
Seems to me much is being made of Putyin’s comments which do not say what folks are imputing

Posted by: ms idaho | Oct 6 2023 16:37 utc | 78

If Mr. Selensky can find time in his schedule, he should take a trip to Syria. Talk with the Kurdish fighters there. The ones that took care of ISIS, stopped the terror attacks all over Europe.
To then be thrown under the bus, when the US had decided ISIS was no longer a threat, and they could improve their relationship with Erdogan by letting him kill the Kurdish population in Syria.
Allegedly ISIS is part of the Alphabit, just like the White Helments.

Posted by: steve | Oct 6 2023 16:37 utc | 79

If Mr. Selensky can find time in his schedule, he should take a trip to Syria. Talk with the Kurdish fighters there. The ones that took care of ISIS, stopped the terror attacks all over Europe.
To then be thrown under the bus, when the US had decided ISIS was no longer a threat, and they could improve their relationship with Erdogan by letting him kill the Kurdish population in Syria.
Allegedly ISIS is part of the Alphabit, just like the White Helments.

Posted by: steve | Oct 6 2023 16:37 utc | 80

Breaking: Ukraine’s intelligence SBU may be behind attack on AFD leaders in Germany who are on the Mirotvorets hitlist.

The SBU may be behind the attack on the leader of the Alternative for Germany, – Deutschland-Kurier
▪️Today, Tino Khrupalla was attacked with a syringe with an unknown liquid at an election rally in Bavaria; he was hospitalized with anaphylactic shock.
▪️The former head of the German secret service anonymously told Deutschland-Kurier that if Tino Khrupalla was attacked by lethal injection, then Ukraine had a motive for this, including his name. included in the list of the Ukrainian website “Peacemaker”.
▪️After the injection, no traces of poison were found in the blood, the source claims. Only intelligence services have access to substances that cannot be detected, he said.
▪️The party said that due to the growing influence of the AfD, many of its members are receiving serious threats. Party co-chair Alice Weidel even had to go into hiding due to threats.
“>https://t.me/NovichokRossiya/39553

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 6 2023 16:40 utc | 81

Breaking: Ukraine’s intelligence SBU may be behind attack on AFD leaders in Germany who are on the Mirotvorets hitlist.

The SBU may be behind the attack on the leader of the Alternative for Germany, – Deutschland-Kurier
▪️Today, Tino Khrupalla was attacked with a syringe with an unknown liquid at an election rally in Bavaria; he was hospitalized with anaphylactic shock.
▪️The former head of the German secret service anonymously told Deutschland-Kurier that if Tino Khrupalla was attacked by lethal injection, then Ukraine had a motive for this, including his name. included in the list of the Ukrainian website “Peacemaker”.
▪️After the injection, no traces of poison were found in the blood, the source claims. Only intelligence services have access to substances that cannot be detected, he said.
▪️The party said that due to the growing influence of the AfD, many of its members are receiving serious threats. Party co-chair Alice Weidel even had to go into hiding due to threats.
“>https://t.me/NovichokRossiya/39553

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 6 2023 16:40 utc | 82

@A A Ron | Oct 6 2023 16:31 utc | 42

What’s worse is that it is now clear that the US and NATO are not only strategically incompetent, they are tactically and operationally incompetent in modern war, too.

I consider that to be the good news. Consider the alternative!

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 6 2023 16:45 utc | 83

@A A Ron | Oct 6 2023 16:31 utc | 42

What’s worse is that it is now clear that the US and NATO are not only strategically incompetent, they are tactically and operationally incompetent in modern war, too.

I consider that to be the good news. Consider the alternative!

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 6 2023 16:45 utc | 84

@oubok | Oct 6 2023 16:41 utc | 46
Agreed.

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 6 2023 16:46 utc | 85

@oubok | Oct 6 2023 16:41 utc | 46
Agreed.

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 6 2023 16:46 utc | 86

Developments that received little attention in the current atmosphere;
US will establish diplomatic ties with the Cook Islands and Niue as Biden hosts Pacific leaders.
Cook Islands have a population of approx 17,000, Niue has about 1,700 so it’s not likely economy related interest, but there’s more:
“Power last month travelled to Fiji to open a new USAID mission that will manage agency programs in nine Pacific Island countries:
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/biden-open-embassies-cook-islands-niue-welcomes-pacific-103442963
Also;
US is building a military base in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. Micronesian residents have questions.
https://theworld.org/stories/2021-08-24/us-building-military-base-middle-pacific-ocean-micronesian-residents-have
Saw another similar article recently about same activity on tiny islands southwest of Saipan but cant find it now.
Not a very stealthy way of doing things but perhaps it isn’t intended to be. So is ‘Just In Time’ being revised / updated to ‘Just In Case’? .

Posted by: bubbles | Oct 6 2023 16:51 utc | 87

Developments that received little attention in the current atmosphere;
US will establish diplomatic ties with the Cook Islands and Niue as Biden hosts Pacific leaders.
Cook Islands have a population of approx 17,000, Niue has about 1,700 so it’s not likely economy related interest, but there’s more:
“Power last month travelled to Fiji to open a new USAID mission that will manage agency programs in nine Pacific Island countries:
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/biden-open-embassies-cook-islands-niue-welcomes-pacific-103442963
Also;
US is building a military base in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. Micronesian residents have questions.
https://theworld.org/stories/2021-08-24/us-building-military-base-middle-pacific-ocean-micronesian-residents-have
Saw another similar article recently about same activity on tiny islands southwest of Saipan but cant find it now.
Not a very stealthy way of doing things but perhaps it isn’t intended to be. So is ‘Just In Time’ being revised / updated to ‘Just In Case’? .

Posted by: bubbles | Oct 6 2023 16:51 utc | 88

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 6 2023 16:23 utc | 37
Not shure about that but, from my limited understanding, bigger costs on bigger weapons provide much more space for legit and illegit profit.
If you look at Iran drones, they produced them under sanctions, with limited cost and great efficacy.
Something like that is happening in China. They have a research small carrier, unmanned, that can carry aerial and naval drones. No doubt they can adapt to military use, probably it’s by design.
So, China can and will produce, a lot of disposable carriers, probably very fast and with risible costs.
US big nuclear carriers require years to be produced and a shitload of money and resources.

Posted by: Mario | Oct 6 2023 16:52 utc | 89

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 6 2023 16:23 utc | 37
Not shure about that but, from my limited understanding, bigger costs on bigger weapons provide much more space for legit and illegit profit.
If you look at Iran drones, they produced them under sanctions, with limited cost and great efficacy.
Something like that is happening in China. They have a research small carrier, unmanned, that can carry aerial and naval drones. No doubt they can adapt to military use, probably it’s by design.
So, China can and will produce, a lot of disposable carriers, probably very fast and with risible costs.
US big nuclear carriers require years to be produced and a shitload of money and resources.

Posted by: Mario | Oct 6 2023 16:52 utc | 90

For months I’ve been driving a road thrice weekly, bringing back hay from inland since coastal crop was so poor.
Each drive takes me past an old, ramshackle, peeling grey barn with a huge red,white,blue JOEMENTUM painted painted down its side.
I’ve been thinking of painting a porcelain white bowl beside it, with a brown poop headed down the crapper.
This past Monday, I did a double-take.
JOEMENTUM has disappeared. Completely. Not painted over. Apparently carefully scraped off. All just a wall of peeling gray, with not a hint it ever contained its message.

Posted by: Mary | Oct 6 2023 16:54 utc | 91

For months I’ve been driving a road thrice weekly, bringing back hay from inland since coastal crop was so poor.
Each drive takes me past an old, ramshackle, peeling grey barn with a huge red,white,blue JOEMENTUM painted painted down its side.
I’ve been thinking of painting a porcelain white bowl beside it, with a brown poop headed down the crapper.
This past Monday, I did a double-take.
JOEMENTUM has disappeared. Completely. Not painted over. Apparently carefully scraped off. All just a wall of peeling gray, with not a hint it ever contained its message.

Posted by: Mary | Oct 6 2023 16:54 utc | 92

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 6 2023 15:36 utc | 9

BlackRock and other US companies who apparently own 1/3 of arable land in Ukraine, complain that too much of that land is reserved for cemetery use and diminishing potential investment returns.

Not a problem. Plant over the cemeteries. That way Ukrainian heroes continue to be useful after death. /S
But seriously, I doubt Fink said what Il Libanese Ramy_Sawma claim. It’s just too stupid.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Oct 6 2023 17:03 utc | 93

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 6 2023 15:36 utc | 9

BlackRock and other US companies who apparently own 1/3 of arable land in Ukraine, complain that too much of that land is reserved for cemetery use and diminishing potential investment returns.

Not a problem. Plant over the cemeteries. That way Ukrainian heroes continue to be useful after death. /S
But seriously, I doubt Fink said what Il Libanese Ramy_Sawma claim. It’s just too stupid.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Oct 6 2023 17:03 utc | 94

Thank you for this text and again for your work and your open forums b !
Hoping that you and yours are doing well in these interesting times.
Some interesting texts on JD Sachs’s blog, including this one recently published :
Beyond the Neocon Debacle to Peace in Ukraine
https://www.jeffsachs.org/newspaper-articles/towards-peace-in-ukraine
And still this german private initiative as negociation proposal :
https://www.berliner-zeitung.de/politik-gesellschaft/ending-the-war-by-a-negotiated-peace-li.417902
free access here :
https://zeitgeschehen-im-fokus.ch/en/newspaper-ausgabe-en/article-translated-in-english.html#article_1565
FR : ces textes sont publiés et traduits en français sur https://www.activista.be
(these texts are published and translated into French on http://www.activista.be)

Posted by: act | Oct 6 2023 17:08 utc | 95

Thank you for this text and again for your work and your open forums b !
Hoping that you and yours are doing well in these interesting times.
Some interesting texts on JD Sachs’s blog, including this one recently published :
Beyond the Neocon Debacle to Peace in Ukraine
https://www.jeffsachs.org/newspaper-articles/towards-peace-in-ukraine
And still this german private initiative as negociation proposal :
https://www.berliner-zeitung.de/politik-gesellschaft/ending-the-war-by-a-negotiated-peace-li.417902
free access here :
https://zeitgeschehen-im-fokus.ch/en/newspaper-ausgabe-en/article-translated-in-english.html#article_1565
FR : ces textes sont publiés et traduits en français sur https://www.activista.be
(these texts are published and translated into French on http://www.activista.be)

Posted by: act | Oct 6 2023 17:08 utc | 96

To the Manichaeans, who are quiet numerous here : reality is often gray,
https://www.reuters.com/world/cuba-arrests-17-trafficking-young-men-fight-russia-ukraine-2023-09-08/
fortunately Cubans are aware of this and are acting fast
https://www.granma.cu/cuba/2023-09-04/cuba-enfrenta-operaciones-de-trata-de-personas-con-fines-de-reclutamiento-militar-04-09-2023-20-09-24

Posted by: Tak-Tik | Oct 6 2023 17:23 utc | 97

To the Manichaeans, who are quiet numerous here : reality is often gray,
https://www.reuters.com/world/cuba-arrests-17-trafficking-young-men-fight-russia-ukraine-2023-09-08/
fortunately Cubans are aware of this and are acting fast
https://www.granma.cu/cuba/2023-09-04/cuba-enfrenta-operaciones-de-trata-de-personas-con-fines-de-reclutamiento-militar-04-09-2023-20-09-24

Posted by: Tak-Tik | Oct 6 2023 17:23 utc | 98

Posted by: A A Ron | Oct 6 2023 16:31 utc | 42
Agree 100%. Even simple things – they had a plan for years to send Ukraine to war and no one thought to ramp up production of shells and drones? Unbelievable! Especially since the MIC would make money from it and would be all too happy to oblige.
Posted by: Exile | Oct 6 2023 15:50 utc | 19
True but a small caveat – things cost less in Russia. Russian 2022 GDP using nominal exchange rates is ~$2 trillion, but at PPP it was as high as $5.3 trillion (IMF data), so for an apples-to-apples comparison we should gross up those numbers by 150% or so.
Still, your point is well taken, Russia is being far outspent by the US/NATO.

Posted by: Sudsie76 | Oct 6 2023 17:23 utc | 99

Posted by: A A Ron | Oct 6 2023 16:31 utc | 42
Agree 100%. Even simple things – they had a plan for years to send Ukraine to war and no one thought to ramp up production of shells and drones? Unbelievable! Especially since the MIC would make money from it and would be all too happy to oblige.
Posted by: Exile | Oct 6 2023 15:50 utc | 19
True but a small caveat – things cost less in Russia. Russian 2022 GDP using nominal exchange rates is ~$2 trillion, but at PPP it was as high as $5.3 trillion (IMF data), so for an apples-to-apples comparison we should gross up those numbers by 150% or so.
Still, your point is well taken, Russia is being far outspent by the US/NATO.

Posted by: Sudsie76 | Oct 6 2023 17:23 utc | 100