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October 31, 2023
The War Is Lost – Zelenski Will Leave – The White House Has Failed

What a difference a year makes …


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Time's big new story is quite revealing:

‘Nobody Believes in Our Victory Like I Do.’ Inside Volodymyr Zelensky’s Struggle to Keep Ukraine in the FightTime – Oct. 30, 2023

That offensive has proceeded at an excruciating pace and with enormous losses, making it ever more difficult for Zelensky to convince partners that victory is around the corner. With the outbreak of war in Israel, even keeping the world’s attention on Ukraine has become a major challenge.

 Quoting a soldier on the front of the counter-offensive, the Economist agrees:

"Left Handed", an infantryman fighting at the front between Robotyne and Verbove, says Ukrainian losses have increased to alarming levels, in part due to the work of drones. The plains of Zaporizhia have turned their back on life, he says. “It’s hellish. Corpses, the smell of corpses, death, blood and fear. Not a whiff of life, just the stench of death.” Those in units such as his own had more chance of dying than surviving. “Seventy-thirty. Some don’t even see their first battle.”

Still, Zelenski is urging them on:

But his convictions haven’t changed. Despite the recent setbacks on the battlefield, he does not intend to give up fighting or to sue for any kind of peace.

On the contrary, his belief in Ukraine’s ultimate victory over Russia has hardened into a form that worries some of his advisers. It is immovable, verging on the messianic. “He deludes himself,” one of his closest aides tells me in frustration. “We’re out of options. We’re not winning. But try telling him that.”

Zelensky’s stubbornness, some of his aides say, has hurt their team’s efforts to come up with a new strategy, a new message. As they have debated the future of the war, one issue has remained taboo: the possibility of negotiating a peace deal with the Russians. Judging by recent surveys, most Ukrainians would reject such a move, especially if it entailed the loss of any occupied territory.

The war is lost. They know it. But they are unwilling to give up.

Zelenski's people put the blame everywhere but on the those who have caused the mess. It was the 'victory' messaging by Zelenski and his crew that has led the public into utter complacency.

As Strana headlines (machine translation):

Ukraine is losing the war with the Russian Federation due to the inadequate perception of the situation by society — commander of the Armed Forces of UkraineStrana.news – Oct. 30, 2023

Strategically, Ukraine is losing the war because of the inadequate perception of the situation by society.

This opinion was expressed by the commander of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Dmitry Kukharchuk in an interview with Channel Five.

He claims that at the beginning of the war, all Ukrainians were ready to defend the country, there were many volunteers. But after the withdrawal of Russian troops from Kiev, the situation changed.

"Immediately after that, I noticed that there were theses in the media that we are fighting with homeless people, that the Russian army does not know how to fight, that in principle victory will be in a week or two, a maximum of a month. That first in the spring, then in the summer, then in the autumn, then in the winter, without specifying which winter, we will go to the Crimea. That the victory is basically victorious. So people were put in a warm bathroom. We have broken down the vision of reality. But it didn't happen in Russia. They began to realize that the war was not going to be easy for them. They realized that they would have to fight for a long time, " Kukharchuk believes.

He also says that the Russians are "getting stronger" every day, and if Ukraine really fought the "degenerates", it would have defeated them long ago.

"That's why we're losing. They have these processes going on, and their public readiness is much higher than that of our society. And when they talk about a nuclear bomb, a war of all against all, for some reason it seems to me that they are ready for these processes, " the battalion commander added.

Napoleon, Hitler and several other folks who had sought war with Russia, had to learn to never underestimate the depth of its resources. Now NATO, the U.S. and its European proxies, are learning that lesson.

Zelenski still hasn't. He won't concede:

The cold will also make military advances more difficult, locking down the front lines at least until the spring. But Zelensky has refused to accept that. “Freezing the war, to me, means losing it,” he says. Before the winter sets in, his aides warned me to expect major changes in their military strategy and a major shake-up in the President’s team. At least one minister would need to be fired, along with a senior general in charge of the counteroffensive, they said, to ensure accountability for Ukraine’s slow progress at the front. “We’re not moving forward,” says one of Zelensky’s close aides. Some front-line commanders, he continues, have begun refusing orders to advance, even when they came directly from the office of the President. “They just want to sit in the trenches and hold the line,” he says. “But we can’t win a war that way.”

When I raised these claims with a senior military officer, he said that some commanders have little choice in second-guessing orders from the top. At one point in early October, he said, the political leadership in Kyiv demanded an operation to “retake” the city of Horlivka, a strategic outpost in eastern Ukraine that the Russians have held and fiercely defended for nearly a decade. The answer came back in the form of a question: With what? “They don’t have the men or the weapons,” says the officer. “Where are the weapons? Where is the artillery? Where are the new recruits?”

In some branches of the military, the shortage of personnel has become even more dire than the deficit in arms and ammunition. One of Zelensky’s close aides tells me that even if the U.S. and its allies come through with all the weapons they have pledged, “we don’t have the men to use them.”

Since the start of the invasion, Ukraine has refused to release official counts of dead and wounded. But according to U.S. and European estimates, the toll has long surpassed 100,000 on each side of the war. It has eroded the ranks of Ukraine’s armed forces so badly that draft offices have been forced to call up ever older personnel, raising the average age of a soldier in Ukraine to around 43 years. “They’re grown men now, and they aren’t that healthy to begin with,” says the close aide to Zelensky. “This is Ukraine. Not Scandinavia.”

The Ukraine's old problems, foremost corruption, persist:

Amid all the pressure to root out corruption, I assumed, perhaps naively, that officials in Ukraine would think twice before taking a bribe or pocketing state funds. But when I made this point to a top presidential adviser in early October, he asked me to turn off my audio recorder so he could speak more freely. “Simon, you’re mistaken,” he says. “People are stealing like there’s no tomorrow.”

Knowing that the ship is sinking, this its probably what I would do too. Bring anything available onto my personal life raft and prepare for cutting its lines to the mother ship.

The Time piece is a signal. It announces the end of Zelenski's regime. I am sure that the National Security Council, as well as the State Department, is feverishly looking for an alternative – and for a face saving way to install it.

Someone seems to protect and promote Alexey Arestovich for exactly that purpose (machine translation):

After leaving the Presidential Office with a scandal in January 2023, Arestovich, although he began to criticize the actions of the authorities, nevertheless did it carefully until recently.

But right now, he's just slamming the ruling team.

Arestovich focuses on two things: the military decisions of the country's leadership and its domestic policy.

The second version: Arestovich enlisted the support of Americans who want to see more political diversity in Ukraine and are not interested in Zelensky's monopolization of power.

In favor of this version, they also use the fact mentioned above that the tightening of the rhetoric of the ex-adviser to the president's Office began after his trip to the United States. Also in this regard, they recall his interview with Gordon in early October, where he says that if the West decides to end the war without reaching the borders of 1991 and Zelensky resists this, then the president of Ukraine will be "changed" in the elections.

"It is possible that Arestovich is supported by a certain part of the Western elites, who care about the breadth of opinions in Ukraine. They say that the country can speak not only with Zelensky's voice, but there are also different critical opinions, " political analyst Ruslan Bortnik comments to Strana.

In its grand strategy the White House had sought to pivot to Asia. But the U.S. is – first in Ukraine, in a completely unnecessary conflict the U.S. itself has caused, and, with Gaza in flames, again in the Middle East.

In a recent talk in Australia John Mearsheimer takes a deep dive into this dilemma (video). He doesn't foresee a good outcome.

Comments

That is not what I hear….
Range increased via new lightweight high bypass turbofan.. > 3500 km
Weight reduced via use of composites..
Lift/drag ratio improved via new X folding wing.
INDY
Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Nov 1 2023 20:41 utc | 248
A shadow storm /scalp carries 450 kgs 550 km
Physics is still there, 3500km? I’d be surprised if it had a 150 kg warhead
Even a sub 2000kms Tomahawk is only good for a 130 kgs nuke
Who cares, the only serious use for that range is a nuke

Posted by: Newbie | Nov 2 2023 1:32 utc | 501

That is not what I hear….
Range increased via new lightweight high bypass turbofan.. > 3500 km
Weight reduced via use of composites..
Lift/drag ratio improved via new X folding wing.
INDY
Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Nov 1 2023 20:41 utc | 248
A shadow storm /scalp carries 450 kgs 550 km
Physics is still there, 3500km? I’d be surprised if it had a 150 kg warhead
Even a sub 2000kms Tomahawk is only good for a 130 kgs nuke
Who cares, the only serious use for that range is a nuke

Posted by: Newbie | Nov 2 2023 1:32 utc | 502

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ Military Expert Boris Rozhin on the SMO #Highlights in the Territory of the Former Ukraine by 23:27 Moscow Time for 1 November 2023⚡️
🔹1. #Zaporozhye Direction:
▪️ In the area of #Pyatikhatki – no significant changes.
▪️ In the area of #Verbovoye and #Rabotino, position battles continue. The enemy after losses has reduced the intensity of attacks and is regrouping, including transferring some forces to #Avdeyevka, which will affect the dynamics of operations on the #Orekhov section of the front.
▪️ Our troops will probably try to take advantage of this to press some positions near #Verbovoye and #Rabotino.
📌 Nevertheless, attempts by the enemy to resume more intensive attacks in the area of #Kopani and #Nopoprokopovka cannot be ruled out.
🔹2. #Vremyevka Ledge:
▪️ No significant changes.
▪️ The fighting here is now in a positional manner. Our troops continue to work the area around #Urozhaynoye and are also active north of #Priyutnoye.
▪️ At #Novodonetskoye and #Novomayorskoye the situation is stable.
▪️ There are no serious attempts by the enemy to break through to #Staromlynovka now.
🔹3. #Ugledar:
▪️ Our troops continue to be active near #Novomikhaylovka, where they have made good progress over the last few days, allowing them to get closer to the AFU stronghold covering #Ugledar from the east.
📌 It is premature to talk about breaking through the enemy’s defences here, as the enemy has simply been pushed back.
🔹4. #Avdeyevka:
▪️ Fierce fighting continues north and south of the city. ▪️ The pace of advancement is still low, due to the bet on the gradual realisation of the advantage in artillery and aviation, which are constantly striking #Avdeyevka.
▪️ The enemy has withdrawn some of its rear and command structures from the city to the west and is waiting for the RF Armed Forces to begin attempts to storm #Severnoye and #Avdeyevka Coke Plant.
📌 At the same time, the AFU command hopes to use the transferred reserves to organize serious counterattacks west of #Krasnogorovka in order to try to push our troops away from the railway.
🔹5. #Artyomovsk:
▪️ To the north of the city, the situation is stable.
▪️ Our troops are confidently holding recent gains near Orekhovo-Vasilyevka and #Vasyukovka, and confidently repelling enemy advances towards #Soledar.
▪️ To the south, our troops have launched counterattacks and recaptured a number of positions from the enemy, which, however, does not seriously change the dynamics on the #Kleshcheyevka – #Andreyevka – #Kurdyumovka line, where the positional nature of the fighting largely determines the dominance of artillery on the battlefield.
▪️ Both sides are conducting active operations with limited forces.
🔹6. #Svatovo-#Kupyansk:
▪️ The fighting is now of a positional nature.
The enemy periodically tries to counterattack, spending the transferred reserves.
▪️ Our forces continue to press west of #Svatovo, near #Makeyevka and northeast of #Kupyansk.
▪️ There are no serious changes on the #Torskoye ledge.

https://t.me/sitreports/17353

Posted by: Down South | Nov 2 2023 4:40 utc | 503

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ Military Expert Boris Rozhin on the SMO #Highlights in the Territory of the Former Ukraine by 23:27 Moscow Time for 1 November 2023⚡️
🔹1. #Zaporozhye Direction:
▪️ In the area of #Pyatikhatki – no significant changes.
▪️ In the area of #Verbovoye and #Rabotino, position battles continue. The enemy after losses has reduced the intensity of attacks and is regrouping, including transferring some forces to #Avdeyevka, which will affect the dynamics of operations on the #Orekhov section of the front.
▪️ Our troops will probably try to take advantage of this to press some positions near #Verbovoye and #Rabotino.
📌 Nevertheless, attempts by the enemy to resume more intensive attacks in the area of #Kopani and #Nopoprokopovka cannot be ruled out.
🔹2. #Vremyevka Ledge:
▪️ No significant changes.
▪️ The fighting here is now in a positional manner. Our troops continue to work the area around #Urozhaynoye and are also active north of #Priyutnoye.
▪️ At #Novodonetskoye and #Novomayorskoye the situation is stable.
▪️ There are no serious attempts by the enemy to break through to #Staromlynovka now.
🔹3. #Ugledar:
▪️ Our troops continue to be active near #Novomikhaylovka, where they have made good progress over the last few days, allowing them to get closer to the AFU stronghold covering #Ugledar from the east.
📌 It is premature to talk about breaking through the enemy’s defences here, as the enemy has simply been pushed back.
🔹4. #Avdeyevka:
▪️ Fierce fighting continues north and south of the city. ▪️ The pace of advancement is still low, due to the bet on the gradual realisation of the advantage in artillery and aviation, which are constantly striking #Avdeyevka.
▪️ The enemy has withdrawn some of its rear and command structures from the city to the west and is waiting for the RF Armed Forces to begin attempts to storm #Severnoye and #Avdeyevka Coke Plant.
📌 At the same time, the AFU command hopes to use the transferred reserves to organize serious counterattacks west of #Krasnogorovka in order to try to push our troops away from the railway.
🔹5. #Artyomovsk:
▪️ To the north of the city, the situation is stable.
▪️ Our troops are confidently holding recent gains near Orekhovo-Vasilyevka and #Vasyukovka, and confidently repelling enemy advances towards #Soledar.
▪️ To the south, our troops have launched counterattacks and recaptured a number of positions from the enemy, which, however, does not seriously change the dynamics on the #Kleshcheyevka – #Andreyevka – #Kurdyumovka line, where the positional nature of the fighting largely determines the dominance of artillery on the battlefield.
▪️ Both sides are conducting active operations with limited forces.
🔹6. #Svatovo-#Kupyansk:
▪️ The fighting is now of a positional nature.
The enemy periodically tries to counterattack, spending the transferred reserves.
▪️ Our forces continue to press west of #Svatovo, near #Makeyevka and northeast of #Kupyansk.
▪️ There are no serious changes on the #Torskoye ledge.

https://t.me/sitreports/17353

Posted by: Down South | Nov 2 2023 4:40 utc | 504

Posted by: maratpost | Nov 1 2023 6:28 utc | 204
Thanks. Very interesting report.
It seems the Russian blackout about Avdievka is slowly loosening (contrary to the noose on the throat of the enemy) : bad omen to AFU.

Posted by: jean levant | Nov 2 2023 5:30 utc | 505

Posted by: maratpost | Nov 1 2023 6:28 utc | 204
Thanks. Very interesting report.
It seems the Russian blackout about Avdievka is slowly loosening (contrary to the noose on the throat of the enemy) : bad omen to AFU.

Posted by: jean levant | Nov 2 2023 5:30 utc | 506

209
“The village of Krynki remains one of the main battlefields in the region.”
What a clown statement by Southfront! Krynki is rather a nothing burger. Look to the North clown!

Posted by: jean levant | Nov 2 2023 5:42 utc | 507

209
“The village of Krynki remains one of the main battlefields in the region.”
What a clown statement by Southfront! Krynki is rather a nothing burger. Look to the North clown!

Posted by: jean levant | Nov 2 2023 5:42 utc | 508

Posted by: Newbie | Nov 2 2023 1:32 utc | 255
Missile range is dependent or combination of factors such as:
-fuel energy density
-(thrust-to-) weight
-drag
-speed
Maybe RUAF has some improvements in those the US top scientists in their universities didn’t discover yet.

Posted by: unimperator | Nov 2 2023 6:28 utc | 509

Posted by: Newbie | Nov 2 2023 1:32 utc | 255
Missile range is dependent or combination of factors such as:
-fuel energy density
-(thrust-to-) weight
-drag
-speed
Maybe RUAF has some improvements in those the US top scientists in their universities didn’t discover yet.

Posted by: unimperator | Nov 2 2023 6:28 utc | 510

Maybe RUAF has some improvements in those the US top scientists in their universities didn’t discover yet.
Posted by: unimperator | Nov 2 2023 6:28 utc | 259
Some improvements , not magnitudes in what basically is aerodynamics and engine efficiency.

Posted by: Newbie | Nov 2 2023 9:48 utc | 511

Maybe RUAF has some improvements in those the US top scientists in their universities didn’t discover yet.
Posted by: unimperator | Nov 2 2023 6:28 utc | 259
Some improvements , not magnitudes in what basically is aerodynamics and engine efficiency.

Posted by: Newbie | Nov 2 2023 9:48 utc | 512

Today is the 60th anniversary of Ngo Dinh Diem’s assassination. The Churchill of Asia. RIP.

Posted by: Technophobe | Nov 2 2023 10:29 utc | 513

Today is the 60th anniversary of Ngo Dinh Diem’s assassination. The Churchill of Asia. RIP.

Posted by: Technophobe | Nov 2 2023 10:29 utc | 514

Does anyone know what the Galician fascists are up to at the moment?
As in the grand fascist political coalition of Biletsky, Yarosh and Tyahnibok plus National Corps/Azov movement and its Interior Ministry national police forces backed by the newly formed Azov Division and whatever else remains of the Ukrainian National Guard and Pravy Sektor.
I’ve always thought the threat of ‘de-Nazification’ by the Russian military, from a Galician fascist perspective, was and remains a highly motivating call to arms to protect Bandera’s legacy. Now’s perhaps getting close to the time for a fascist takeover in rump Ukraine, if it’s going to happen. If supported by the UA military and the CIA then the Heroiam could probably resist all the way to Lviv before going down fighting, Valkyries and all.
What’s the bet the Yanks would ‘covertly’ support a Ukrainian ‘Résistance’ to its very last citizen?

Posted by: Zeug Gezeugt | Nov 2 2023 10:43 utc | 515

Does anyone know what the Galician fascists are up to at the moment?
As in the grand fascist political coalition of Biletsky, Yarosh and Tyahnibok plus National Corps/Azov movement and its Interior Ministry national police forces backed by the newly formed Azov Division and whatever else remains of the Ukrainian National Guard and Pravy Sektor.
I’ve always thought the threat of ‘de-Nazification’ by the Russian military, from a Galician fascist perspective, was and remains a highly motivating call to arms to protect Bandera’s legacy. Now’s perhaps getting close to the time for a fascist takeover in rump Ukraine, if it’s going to happen. If supported by the UA military and the CIA then the Heroiam could probably resist all the way to Lviv before going down fighting, Valkyries and all.
What’s the bet the Yanks would ‘covertly’ support a Ukrainian ‘Résistance’ to its very last citizen?

Posted by: Zeug Gezeugt | Nov 2 2023 10:43 utc | 516

Posted by: Zeug Gezeugt | Nov 2 2023 10:43 utc | 262
I think it’s been discussed several times. But basically RUAF has mostly eliminated Nato’s plan of a partisan war behind the lines, due to them not moving rapidly to taking a lot of territory with intact terrorist cells. Instead, Nato got tired of waiting and just threw those cells to the front grinder.
Really, one of the largest key issues in this war is destroying enemy long range artillery. After that happens, the enemy is deprived from the single largest source of fire which can cause casualties and damage. A million or even two more AFU will be able to do only very limited things.

Posted by: unimperator | Nov 2 2023 10:54 utc | 517

Posted by: Zeug Gezeugt | Nov 2 2023 10:43 utc | 262
I think it’s been discussed several times. But basically RUAF has mostly eliminated Nato’s plan of a partisan war behind the lines, due to them not moving rapidly to taking a lot of territory with intact terrorist cells. Instead, Nato got tired of waiting and just threw those cells to the front grinder.
Really, one of the largest key issues in this war is destroying enemy long range artillery. After that happens, the enemy is deprived from the single largest source of fire which can cause casualties and damage. A million or even two more AFU will be able to do only very limited things.

Posted by: unimperator | Nov 2 2023 10:54 utc | 518

https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/time-magazine-profile-depicts-grim
The talk of the blogosphere is the new devastating TIME magazine profile on Zelensky which paints the most grim, 1945 Führerbunker portrait of Zelensky yet. Bernhard covers it well on MoA, but I’m going to retread some of the same points to take the analysis into a slightly different direction of anticipating what comes next vis a vis the current political turmoil in the US.

Posted by: simpliciuspost | Nov 2 2023 11:17 utc | 519

https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/time-magazine-profile-depicts-grim
The talk of the blogosphere is the new devastating TIME magazine profile on Zelensky which paints the most grim, 1945 Führerbunker portrait of Zelensky yet. Bernhard covers it well on MoA, but I’m going to retread some of the same points to take the analysis into a slightly different direction of anticipating what comes next vis a vis the current political turmoil in the US.

Posted by: simpliciuspost | Nov 2 2023 11:17 utc | 520

“There you can sleep easy now treasuries are our asset. It should be called the national savings clock not a debt clock. But complete fools only look at the liability side of the balance sheet as ideology has made them as bright as a bag of spanners.”
Posted by: Echo Chamber | Nov 1 2023 16:01 utc | 231
I have ben described worse things than being a, ‘fool”-so thank you for your restraint.
With all due respect, Echo, your economic understanding is puerile.
Have you heard about Silicon Valley Bank?
Well they had long term US treasuries as an asset (many were bought during the pandemic when the 10 year treasury was at .6% coupon at the low-that coupon today in bonds is 4.9%)but went bankrupt last March because as interest rates rise-let me say it again-as interest rates rise the value of bonds, especially long term bonds depreciate. Such that as banks use their treasury bonds a collateral so as their value diminishes as interest rates go up the lenders want to be paid back or more to have the borrower collateral put up more collateral as security.
SVB was a $200 billion dollar disaster and would have led to a bank run till on the Sunday afternoon before the Monday opening treasury secretary Yellen said the US govt. would bail out the deposit holders.
By doing this act (to protect the elite of course)she has doomed the long term value of the US dollar.
Kindly remember that the value of bonds go down when the interest rates go up that should clear up your misinterpretation of the current bond market value.

Posted by: canuck | Nov 2 2023 12:12 utc | 521

“There you can sleep easy now treasuries are our asset. It should be called the national savings clock not a debt clock. But complete fools only look at the liability side of the balance sheet as ideology has made them as bright as a bag of spanners.”
Posted by: Echo Chamber | Nov 1 2023 16:01 utc | 231
I have ben described worse things than being a, ‘fool”-so thank you for your restraint.
With all due respect, Echo, your economic understanding is puerile.
Have you heard about Silicon Valley Bank?
Well they had long term US treasuries as an asset (many were bought during the pandemic when the 10 year treasury was at .6% coupon at the low-that coupon today in bonds is 4.9%)but went bankrupt last March because as interest rates rise-let me say it again-as interest rates rise the value of bonds, especially long term bonds depreciate. Such that as banks use their treasury bonds a collateral so as their value diminishes as interest rates go up the lenders want to be paid back or more to have the borrower collateral put up more collateral as security.
SVB was a $200 billion dollar disaster and would have led to a bank run till on the Sunday afternoon before the Monday opening treasury secretary Yellen said the US govt. would bail out the deposit holders.
By doing this act (to protect the elite of course)she has doomed the long term value of the US dollar.
Kindly remember that the value of bonds go down when the interest rates go up that should clear up your misinterpretation of the current bond market value.

Posted by: canuck | Nov 2 2023 12:12 utc | 522

Rybar says five f16s were delivered from Poland to Ukr by trucks.

Posted by: rk | Nov 2 2023 13:37 utc | 523

Rybar says five f16s were delivered from Poland to Ukr by trucks.

Posted by: rk | Nov 2 2023 13:37 utc | 524

Posted by: unimperator | Nov 2 2023 10:54 utc | 263

RUAF has mostly eliminated Nato’s plan of a partisan war behind the lines… A million or even two more AFU will be able to do only very limited things.

Yes, re ‘partisan wars’ that’s the case for eastern UA which is less Galician and more ethnic Russian, but of course the Galician fascists are mostly concentrated west of the Dnipr apart from Avakov and Biletsky’s Kharkov Azov base. The invasion of western UA, if it ever happens, will be messy for RF.
Tyahnibok is still active on Telegram most probably from Lviv, and there was video of Zelensky meeting Azov’s ‘white führer’ Biletsky in some bunker from a month ago. No idea what’s happened to Yarosh apart from at the start of the SMO he posted on his Facebook that he was again ‘promoted’ as National Guard ‘advisor’ to the UA military command i.e., Zaluzhny … I can’t imagine Zelensky has had any say in anything since the 2019 ‘No capitulation’ riots at the Rada and Biletsky and Yarosh’ public threats to “hang him” if he dared seek peace with the Russians.
I think the CIA/Pentagon/Biden State Dept run/pay for everything in this war in collaboration with whatever the current power faction is in Ukraine … Zelensky is just ‘the patsy’, the Galician fascists have pushed for war with Russia since Euromaidan, the US has always backed them. If the Neocons want to bleed Russia as much as possible why would they not default to a fascist (freedom fighters!) ‘war government’ that will die fighting in the streets of Lviv?
“To the last Ukrainian” … Heroiam Slava!

Posted by: Zeug Gezeugt | Nov 2 2023 23:49 utc | 525

Posted by: unimperator | Nov 2 2023 10:54 utc | 263

RUAF has mostly eliminated Nato’s plan of a partisan war behind the lines… A million or even two more AFU will be able to do only very limited things.

Yes, re ‘partisan wars’ that’s the case for eastern UA which is less Galician and more ethnic Russian, but of course the Galician fascists are mostly concentrated west of the Dnipr apart from Avakov and Biletsky’s Kharkov Azov base. The invasion of western UA, if it ever happens, will be messy for RF.
Tyahnibok is still active on Telegram most probably from Lviv, and there was video of Zelensky meeting Azov’s ‘white führer’ Biletsky in some bunker from a month ago. No idea what’s happened to Yarosh apart from at the start of the SMO he posted on his Facebook that he was again ‘promoted’ as National Guard ‘advisor’ to the UA military command i.e., Zaluzhny … I can’t imagine Zelensky has had any say in anything since the 2019 ‘No capitulation’ riots at the Rada and Biletsky and Yarosh’ public threats to “hang him” if he dared seek peace with the Russians.
I think the CIA/Pentagon/Biden State Dept run/pay for everything in this war in collaboration with whatever the current power faction is in Ukraine … Zelensky is just ‘the patsy’, the Galician fascists have pushed for war with Russia since Euromaidan, the US has always backed them. If the Neocons want to bleed Russia as much as possible why would they not default to a fascist (freedom fighters!) ‘war government’ that will die fighting in the streets of Lviv?
“To the last Ukrainian” … Heroiam Slava!

Posted by: Zeug Gezeugt | Nov 2 2023 23:49 utc | 526

Re: Posted by: Zeug Gezeugt | Nov 2 2023 23:49 utc | 267

If the Neocons want to bleed Russia as much as possible why would they not default to a fascist (freedom fighters!) ‘war government’ that will die fighting in the streets of Lviv?
“To the last Ukrainian” … Heroiam Slava!

There will be no fighting in Lviv – the Russians are not going there.
To think they will is a pipe dream.

Posted by: Julian | Nov 3 2023 1:51 utc | 527

Re: Posted by: Zeug Gezeugt | Nov 2 2023 23:49 utc | 267

If the Neocons want to bleed Russia as much as possible why would they not default to a fascist (freedom fighters!) ‘war government’ that will die fighting in the streets of Lviv?
“To the last Ukrainian” … Heroiam Slava!

There will be no fighting in Lviv – the Russians are not going there.
To think they will is a pipe dream.

Posted by: Julian | Nov 3 2023 1:51 utc | 528

Posted by: Julian | Nov 3 2023 1:51 utc | 268

There will be no fighting in Lviv – the Russians are not going there.

Yes most probably, but the logical denouement of ‘de-Nazification’ and the decade-long naked support of Galician fascism by the US elites would see National Corps and its führer bunkered down in Lviv as the Volkstürm are incinerated in the ruins above. Generally speaking you can’t bargain with ethno-nationalists, you either break their legs or …
I’m just wondering if the true Bandera believers are truly done, and if RF doesn’t take Lviv who else is going to stop them holding rump Ukraine together? The Poles?

Posted by: Zeug Gezeugt | Nov 3 2023 2:05 utc | 529

Posted by: Julian | Nov 3 2023 1:51 utc | 268

There will be no fighting in Lviv – the Russians are not going there.

Yes most probably, but the logical denouement of ‘de-Nazification’ and the decade-long naked support of Galician fascism by the US elites would see National Corps and its führer bunkered down in Lviv as the Volkstürm are incinerated in the ruins above. Generally speaking you can’t bargain with ethno-nationalists, you either break their legs or …
I’m just wondering if the true Bandera believers are truly done, and if RF doesn’t take Lviv who else is going to stop them holding rump Ukraine together? The Poles?

Posted by: Zeug Gezeugt | Nov 3 2023 2:05 utc | 530