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October 31, 2023
The War Is Lost – Zelenski Will Leave – The White House Has Failed

What a difference a year makes …


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Time's big new story is quite revealing:

‘Nobody Believes in Our Victory Like I Do.’ Inside Volodymyr Zelensky’s Struggle to Keep Ukraine in the FightTime – Oct. 30, 2023

That offensive has proceeded at an excruciating pace and with enormous losses, making it ever more difficult for Zelensky to convince partners that victory is around the corner. With the outbreak of war in Israel, even keeping the world’s attention on Ukraine has become a major challenge.

 Quoting a soldier on the front of the counter-offensive, the Economist agrees:

"Left Handed", an infantryman fighting at the front between Robotyne and Verbove, says Ukrainian losses have increased to alarming levels, in part due to the work of drones. The plains of Zaporizhia have turned their back on life, he says. “It’s hellish. Corpses, the smell of corpses, death, blood and fear. Not a whiff of life, just the stench of death.” Those in units such as his own had more chance of dying than surviving. “Seventy-thirty. Some don’t even see their first battle.”

Still, Zelenski is urging them on:

But his convictions haven’t changed. Despite the recent setbacks on the battlefield, he does not intend to give up fighting or to sue for any kind of peace.

On the contrary, his belief in Ukraine’s ultimate victory over Russia has hardened into a form that worries some of his advisers. It is immovable, verging on the messianic. “He deludes himself,” one of his closest aides tells me in frustration. “We’re out of options. We’re not winning. But try telling him that.”

Zelensky’s stubbornness, some of his aides say, has hurt their team’s efforts to come up with a new strategy, a new message. As they have debated the future of the war, one issue has remained taboo: the possibility of negotiating a peace deal with the Russians. Judging by recent surveys, most Ukrainians would reject such a move, especially if it entailed the loss of any occupied territory.

The war is lost. They know it. But they are unwilling to give up.

Zelenski's people put the blame everywhere but on the those who have caused the mess. It was the 'victory' messaging by Zelenski and his crew that has led the public into utter complacency.

As Strana headlines (machine translation):

Ukraine is losing the war with the Russian Federation due to the inadequate perception of the situation by society — commander of the Armed Forces of UkraineStrana.news – Oct. 30, 2023

Strategically, Ukraine is losing the war because of the inadequate perception of the situation by society.

This opinion was expressed by the commander of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Dmitry Kukharchuk in an interview with Channel Five.

He claims that at the beginning of the war, all Ukrainians were ready to defend the country, there were many volunteers. But after the withdrawal of Russian troops from Kiev, the situation changed.

"Immediately after that, I noticed that there were theses in the media that we are fighting with homeless people, that the Russian army does not know how to fight, that in principle victory will be in a week or two, a maximum of a month. That first in the spring, then in the summer, then in the autumn, then in the winter, without specifying which winter, we will go to the Crimea. That the victory is basically victorious. So people were put in a warm bathroom. We have broken down the vision of reality. But it didn't happen in Russia. They began to realize that the war was not going to be easy for them. They realized that they would have to fight for a long time, " Kukharchuk believes.

He also says that the Russians are "getting stronger" every day, and if Ukraine really fought the "degenerates", it would have defeated them long ago.

"That's why we're losing. They have these processes going on, and their public readiness is much higher than that of our society. And when they talk about a nuclear bomb, a war of all against all, for some reason it seems to me that they are ready for these processes, " the battalion commander added.

Napoleon, Hitler and several other folks who had sought war with Russia, had to learn to never underestimate the depth of its resources. Now NATO, the U.S. and its European proxies, are learning that lesson.

Zelenski still hasn't. He won't concede:

The cold will also make military advances more difficult, locking down the front lines at least until the spring. But Zelensky has refused to accept that. “Freezing the war, to me, means losing it,” he says. Before the winter sets in, his aides warned me to expect major changes in their military strategy and a major shake-up in the President’s team. At least one minister would need to be fired, along with a senior general in charge of the counteroffensive, they said, to ensure accountability for Ukraine’s slow progress at the front. “We’re not moving forward,” says one of Zelensky’s close aides. Some front-line commanders, he continues, have begun refusing orders to advance, even when they came directly from the office of the President. “They just want to sit in the trenches and hold the line,” he says. “But we can’t win a war that way.”

When I raised these claims with a senior military officer, he said that some commanders have little choice in second-guessing orders from the top. At one point in early October, he said, the political leadership in Kyiv demanded an operation to “retake” the city of Horlivka, a strategic outpost in eastern Ukraine that the Russians have held and fiercely defended for nearly a decade. The answer came back in the form of a question: With what? “They don’t have the men or the weapons,” says the officer. “Where are the weapons? Where is the artillery? Where are the new recruits?”

In some branches of the military, the shortage of personnel has become even more dire than the deficit in arms and ammunition. One of Zelensky’s close aides tells me that even if the U.S. and its allies come through with all the weapons they have pledged, “we don’t have the men to use them.”

Since the start of the invasion, Ukraine has refused to release official counts of dead and wounded. But according to U.S. and European estimates, the toll has long surpassed 100,000 on each side of the war. It has eroded the ranks of Ukraine’s armed forces so badly that draft offices have been forced to call up ever older personnel, raising the average age of a soldier in Ukraine to around 43 years. “They’re grown men now, and they aren’t that healthy to begin with,” says the close aide to Zelensky. “This is Ukraine. Not Scandinavia.”

The Ukraine's old problems, foremost corruption, persist:

Amid all the pressure to root out corruption, I assumed, perhaps naively, that officials in Ukraine would think twice before taking a bribe or pocketing state funds. But when I made this point to a top presidential adviser in early October, he asked me to turn off my audio recorder so he could speak more freely. “Simon, you’re mistaken,” he says. “People are stealing like there’s no tomorrow.”

Knowing that the ship is sinking, this its probably what I would do too. Bring anything available onto my personal life raft and prepare for cutting its lines to the mother ship.

The Time piece is a signal. It announces the end of Zelenski's regime. I am sure that the National Security Council, as well as the State Department, is feverishly looking for an alternative – and for a face saving way to install it.

Someone seems to protect and promote Alexey Arestovich for exactly that purpose (machine translation):

After leaving the Presidential Office with a scandal in January 2023, Arestovich, although he began to criticize the actions of the authorities, nevertheless did it carefully until recently.

But right now, he's just slamming the ruling team.

Arestovich focuses on two things: the military decisions of the country's leadership and its domestic policy.

The second version: Arestovich enlisted the support of Americans who want to see more political diversity in Ukraine and are not interested in Zelensky's monopolization of power.

In favor of this version, they also use the fact mentioned above that the tightening of the rhetoric of the ex-adviser to the president's Office began after his trip to the United States. Also in this regard, they recall his interview with Gordon in early October, where he says that if the West decides to end the war without reaching the borders of 1991 and Zelensky resists this, then the president of Ukraine will be "changed" in the elections.

"It is possible that Arestovich is supported by a certain part of the Western elites, who care about the breadth of opinions in Ukraine. They say that the country can speak not only with Zelensky's voice, but there are also different critical opinions, " political analyst Ruslan Bortnik comments to Strana.

In its grand strategy the White House had sought to pivot to Asia. But the U.S. is – first in Ukraine, in a completely unnecessary conflict the U.S. itself has caused, and, with Gaza in flames, again in the Middle East.

In a recent talk in Australia John Mearsheimer takes a deep dive into this dilemma (video). He doesn't foresee a good outcome.

Comments

Brian Berletic makes tyhe same point that I do @108. Only far better and in much greater detail. Highly recommended
https://journal-neo.su/2023/10/23/the-grim-prospects-of-us-proxies-ukraine-israel-and-taiwan/
Posted by: bevin | Oct 31 2023 18:24 utc | 146
Excellent contribution. Really the definitive perspective on this stage of the collapse of US imperialism.
I still tend to think the wise people of Taiwan will see reason and peacefully ally with China before the dead hand of imperialism can capture their country.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 31 2023 19:11 utc | 301

Brian Berletic makes tyhe same point that I do @108. Only far better and in much greater detail. Highly recommended
https://journal-neo.su/2023/10/23/the-grim-prospects-of-us-proxies-ukraine-israel-and-taiwan/
Posted by: bevin | Oct 31 2023 18:24 utc | 146
Excellent contribution. Really the definitive perspective on this stage of the collapse of US imperialism.
I still tend to think the wise people of Taiwan will see reason and peacefully ally with China before the dead hand of imperialism can capture their country.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 31 2023 19:11 utc | 302

Middle East Spectator TG Channel
Hezbollah: The Game Plan

Everyone who has been following the war since the 7th of October knows that all parties involved are anxiously awaiting the next move from resistance-axis factions, first and foremost Hezbollah.

Since October 8th, Hezbollah has attacked IDF positions across the Lebanese border every single day, with no exceptions. Approximately 50 martyrs have been announced, and we can only wonder about the number of Israeli casualties. Besides the deaths, many IDF vehicles and tanks have been destroyed.

These operations, which disabled most of the IDFs observation network, have practically blinded the Israelis in the north, especially in Metula and the surrounding settlements. One can only start to wonder why Hezbollah would have put so much emphasis on this modus-operandi, instead of just opting for killing soldiers or destroying tanks.

The north is now a total blind spot, and based on the available information, it is very possible that the main event is yet to come.

https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/3047

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Oct 31 2023 19:16 utc | 303

Middle East Spectator TG Channel
Hezbollah: The Game Plan

Everyone who has been following the war since the 7th of October knows that all parties involved are anxiously awaiting the next move from resistance-axis factions, first and foremost Hezbollah.

Since October 8th, Hezbollah has attacked IDF positions across the Lebanese border every single day, with no exceptions. Approximately 50 martyrs have been announced, and we can only wonder about the number of Israeli casualties. Besides the deaths, many IDF vehicles and tanks have been destroyed.

These operations, which disabled most of the IDFs observation network, have practically blinded the Israelis in the north, especially in Metula and the surrounding settlements. One can only start to wonder why Hezbollah would have put so much emphasis on this modus-operandi, instead of just opting for killing soldiers or destroying tanks.

The north is now a total blind spot, and based on the available information, it is very possible that the main event is yet to come.

https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/3047

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Oct 31 2023 19:16 utc | 304

I had thought that Z was a complete NATO patsy, but I am beginning to wonder if he is an altogether more complex and interesting character. He is certainly behaving much like another much disparaged junior actor (with said moustache) who proved to be quite a handful. Nevertheless, I don’t expect him to be around long enough to write his memoirs.

Posted by: marcjf | Oct 31 2023 19:24 utc | 305

I had thought that Z was a complete NATO patsy, but I am beginning to wonder if he is an altogether more complex and interesting character. He is certainly behaving much like another much disparaged junior actor (with said moustache) who proved to be quite a handful. Nevertheless, I don’t expect him to be around long enough to write his memoirs.

Posted by: marcjf | Oct 31 2023 19:24 utc | 306

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Oct 31 2023 19:16 utc | 154
We’ll see, but I’m skeptical. If Hezbollah attacks that would mean they would have to suffer the combined air from Israel and the US carriers and other assets. Whatever they ended up doing whether by themselves or in concert with others the result would have to be the complete destruction of Israel and US military assets in the region. The most likely outcome is mass murder of Gazans and no major response from any of the Islamic powers. I think Israel has made it clear that they will go nuclear and the US will go along with it.

Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Oct 31 2023 19:34 utc | 307

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Oct 31 2023 19:16 utc | 154
We’ll see, but I’m skeptical. If Hezbollah attacks that would mean they would have to suffer the combined air from Israel and the US carriers and other assets. Whatever they ended up doing whether by themselves or in concert with others the result would have to be the complete destruction of Israel and US military assets in the region. The most likely outcome is mass murder of Gazans and no major response from any of the Islamic powers. I think Israel has made it clear that they will go nuclear and the US will go along with it.

Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Oct 31 2023 19:34 utc | 308

Posted by: Feral Finster | Oct 31 2023 15:37 utc | 97
Zelensky’s main value to the Brits and Americans is the the propaganda value of his death. If its a slow lingering Putin exotic poison it will be the British. If it is a bayonet in the behind or similar violent ending, it is the Americans or local Nazi’s.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 31 2023 16:48 utc | 123
Saakashvili and Ghani are both still alive. To be fair, the MSM didn’t proclaim either to be Solon, Marcus Aurelius, Jesus Christ, Julius Caesar and Ashoka all rolled into one.

Posted by: Feral Finster | Oct 31 2023 19:36 utc | 309

Posted by: Feral Finster | Oct 31 2023 15:37 utc | 97
Zelensky’s main value to the Brits and Americans is the the propaganda value of his death. If its a slow lingering Putin exotic poison it will be the British. If it is a bayonet in the behind or similar violent ending, it is the Americans or local Nazi’s.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 31 2023 16:48 utc | 123
Saakashvili and Ghani are both still alive. To be fair, the MSM didn’t proclaim either to be Solon, Marcus Aurelius, Jesus Christ, Julius Caesar and Ashoka all rolled into one.

Posted by: Feral Finster | Oct 31 2023 19:36 utc | 310

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Oct 31 2023 19:16 utc | 154
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 31 2023 19:11 utc | 153
Posted by: bevin | Oct 31 2023 18:24 utc | 146

Thank you for all those posts. It’s pretty clear the outlook for Ukraine and Israel are rather bleak, mildly put.
Nato/the west has now parked 40 naval ships into the eastern Mediterranean. The saturation of Lebanon with anti air defense systems and ASM systems must be in full swing.
Hezbollah itself is not a pushover, entrenched in the hillsides. They have wrecked a lot of Israels ISR assets in the north, which will open further possibilities down the road. Not to mention the damage to IDF itself even without direct contact only with longer range weapons.

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 31 2023 19:44 utc | 311

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Oct 31 2023 19:16 utc | 154
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 31 2023 19:11 utc | 153
Posted by: bevin | Oct 31 2023 18:24 utc | 146

Thank you for all those posts. It’s pretty clear the outlook for Ukraine and Israel are rather bleak, mildly put.
Nato/the west has now parked 40 naval ships into the eastern Mediterranean. The saturation of Lebanon with anti air defense systems and ASM systems must be in full swing.
Hezbollah itself is not a pushover, entrenched in the hillsides. They have wrecked a lot of Israels ISR assets in the north, which will open further possibilities down the road. Not to mention the damage to IDF itself even without direct contact only with longer range weapons.

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 31 2023 19:44 utc | 312

Feral Finster | Oct 31 2023 15:48 utc | 98
*** Basically, Ukrainians see The West as the Golden Land Where Institutions Basically Work. It isn’t that way at all, but that’s the perception. If hating their fathers and brothers is the price charged for admission to that Blessed Land, then that is the price that they will pay.***
What do you reckon their behaviour and attitude will be when they realise that what they were led to think is “the west” is mostly a rotten mass-media / establishment politician projected mirage?

Posted by: Cynic | Oct 31 2023 19:54 utc | 313

Feral Finster | Oct 31 2023 15:48 utc | 98
*** Basically, Ukrainians see The West as the Golden Land Where Institutions Basically Work. It isn’t that way at all, but that’s the perception. If hating their fathers and brothers is the price charged for admission to that Blessed Land, then that is the price that they will pay.***
What do you reckon their behaviour and attitude will be when they realise that what they were led to think is “the west” is mostly a rotten mass-media / establishment politician projected mirage?

Posted by: Cynic | Oct 31 2023 19:54 utc | 314

Posted by: Cynic | Oct 31 2023 19:54 utc | 159
During the course of SMO, a lot of Ukrainians got a free pass to Europe. They are mostly the richer Ukrainians from Kiev, oligarch families, government official families, etc. who have gotten rich ripping off aid from the west. Also most likely all the “productive” people have left, some to Russia and some to Europe. Anyone who has any sort of wealth, basically. They have made a lot of TikTok videos of them enjoying themselves in Europe, and in many cases it’s doubtful they actually can support themselves in Europe.
Also, most likely a large portion of fertile aged women have left the country and are in Europe, never to go back to Ukraine.
Some of them might be forced back, but most people of Ukraine who support the war are those outside the country. Probably a lot of poor people in Ukraine support the war, but mostly in the west.
It might be the case that most people in Ukraine are simply too apathetic to care anymore.
The grip of Kiev’s central government over various parts of the country will eventually break down and some regions will simply left to their own designs, to do whatever arrangements they want, mostly with Russia. The western part will become a paper entity or maybe even absorbed by Poland.
Lwow could even become a similar project as Idlib in Syria, where all the US funded terrorists got parked after taking over other areas of the country. They are all stuck there, unable to move to Poland, nor unable to move to ex-Ukraine.
But regardless of what is the fate of Ukraine, the main goal of RUAF is to break the mobilization potential of Ukraine, and whatever gets left over is a residue.

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 31 2023 20:05 utc | 315

Posted by: Cynic | Oct 31 2023 19:54 utc | 159
During the course of SMO, a lot of Ukrainians got a free pass to Europe. They are mostly the richer Ukrainians from Kiev, oligarch families, government official families, etc. who have gotten rich ripping off aid from the west. Also most likely all the “productive” people have left, some to Russia and some to Europe. Anyone who has any sort of wealth, basically. They have made a lot of TikTok videos of them enjoying themselves in Europe, and in many cases it’s doubtful they actually can support themselves in Europe.
Also, most likely a large portion of fertile aged women have left the country and are in Europe, never to go back to Ukraine.
Some of them might be forced back, but most people of Ukraine who support the war are those outside the country. Probably a lot of poor people in Ukraine support the war, but mostly in the west.
It might be the case that most people in Ukraine are simply too apathetic to care anymore.
The grip of Kiev’s central government over various parts of the country will eventually break down and some regions will simply left to their own designs, to do whatever arrangements they want, mostly with Russia. The western part will become a paper entity or maybe even absorbed by Poland.
Lwow could even become a similar project as Idlib in Syria, where all the US funded terrorists got parked after taking over other areas of the country. They are all stuck there, unable to move to Poland, nor unable to move to ex-Ukraine.
But regardless of what is the fate of Ukraine, the main goal of RUAF is to break the mobilization potential of Ukraine, and whatever gets left over is a residue.

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 31 2023 20:05 utc | 316

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Oct 31 2023 19:16 utc | 154
Moved to Palestine Open Thread 2023-256

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Oct 31 2023 20:14 utc | 317

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Oct 31 2023 19:16 utc | 154
Moved to Palestine Open Thread 2023-256

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Oct 31 2023 20:14 utc | 318

I wonder if Newson is the representative of Silicon Valley capitalism push back to the neocon misadventure, it would be about time they spoke up, or their money did. California itself is I believe the world’s 7th largest economy and you could argue it’s part of the Asia Pacific. You would think California above all needs good relations with China and peace and stability in Asia. Guess we’ll know the score if Newson is in some way Russiagated, or piss taped, or Steele Dossiered, antisemitism baited, or has the primaries stolen outright.
On the other hand if he’s anointed to replace Biden might as well give up any hope for the non MIC, productive, industrial part of global corporate capitalism pushing back and coming to the rescue. Sad our only hope at this point is that instead of the international proletariat rising to save the world it has to be global corporate capitalism rising up to save itself from end stage derangement.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 31 2023 19:12 utc | 160

Unfortunately that’s not how it works. I used to think that SV is an independent power center too, but then I realized two things:
1) at some point about a decade ago majority ownership of the Big Tech giants passed from the hands of the founders into the hands of the same people who own everything else.
2) no Big Tech giant was ever allowed to become a Big Tech giant without complete cooperation with the 3-letter agencies, and even that might be a generous interpretation of the situation, it may actually be the case that they were founded as fronts for the latter from the start.
And it is those people who own everything else that are driving the wars.
Because the ultimate problem is that the West ran out of resources for the kind of expansion that allows both the elites to become richer and the masses to be placated. From here on there are three options:
1) ever further impoverishment of the masses combined with brutal repression to keep them from rebelling
2) the masses eventually do rebell and the elites find themselves hanging from threes and with their heads rolling in ditches
3) resources — meaning natural resources and labor — are once appropriated to kick the can down the road for another several decades, the way absorbing much of the former Soviet Bloc allowed. That means controlling Russia, Africa and the Middle East for resources and China and the rest of Asia for labor, and keeping them at a low level of consumption (meaning the kind of poverty they were in until recently) so that consumption can be once again redirected towards the West.
Option 3) is clearly the preferable one if it can be implemented.
Now the elites in those countries have actually shown themselves to be perfectly happy with betraying their population in such a way as long as their own wealth and power is preserved, the problem is that it won’t be preserved because plunging those places back into abject poverty will destabilize them the same way it will destabilize the West.
So war it will be.
And what SV thinks is not a major factor in it all.
P.S. These are the same reasons that drove the wars of the early 20th century. In the 19th century the internal wealth distribution issues of Europe and the US Atlantic coast were resolved through colonization of other continents or the interior. But the world was fully colonized by the turn of the 20th century, so there was nowhere to expand anymore, thus war it was.
In the process we switched from territorial expansion to intensive exploitation of oil and gas as the driver of growth (WWI was still primarily a coal-powered war, the age of oil really began after that and WWII distributed the main stakes in the key deposits around the world). But now that is running out too — the shale plays were the last Hail Mary for North America, but the easy to produce ones are depleted now, and after that there is just the abyss of the right-hand side of the decline curve. So war it is once again…
Of course the only real solution is to end the reliance on growth, but that means the rich agreeing on not being so rich anymore, and that will never happen.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Oct 31 2023 20:17 utc | 319

I wonder if Newson is the representative of Silicon Valley capitalism push back to the neocon misadventure, it would be about time they spoke up, or their money did. California itself is I believe the world’s 7th largest economy and you could argue it’s part of the Asia Pacific. You would think California above all needs good relations with China and peace and stability in Asia. Guess we’ll know the score if Newson is in some way Russiagated, or piss taped, or Steele Dossiered, antisemitism baited, or has the primaries stolen outright.
On the other hand if he’s anointed to replace Biden might as well give up any hope for the non MIC, productive, industrial part of global corporate capitalism pushing back and coming to the rescue. Sad our only hope at this point is that instead of the international proletariat rising to save the world it has to be global corporate capitalism rising up to save itself from end stage derangement.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 31 2023 19:12 utc | 160

Unfortunately that’s not how it works. I used to think that SV is an independent power center too, but then I realized two things:
1) at some point about a decade ago majority ownership of the Big Tech giants passed from the hands of the founders into the hands of the same people who own everything else.
2) no Big Tech giant was ever allowed to become a Big Tech giant without complete cooperation with the 3-letter agencies, and even that might be a generous interpretation of the situation, it may actually be the case that they were founded as fronts for the latter from the start.
And it is those people who own everything else that are driving the wars.
Because the ultimate problem is that the West ran out of resources for the kind of expansion that allows both the elites to become richer and the masses to be placated. From here on there are three options:
1) ever further impoverishment of the masses combined with brutal repression to keep them from rebelling
2) the masses eventually do rebell and the elites find themselves hanging from threes and with their heads rolling in ditches
3) resources — meaning natural resources and labor — are once appropriated to kick the can down the road for another several decades, the way absorbing much of the former Soviet Bloc allowed. That means controlling Russia, Africa and the Middle East for resources and China and the rest of Asia for labor, and keeping them at a low level of consumption (meaning the kind of poverty they were in until recently) so that consumption can be once again redirected towards the West.
Option 3) is clearly the preferable one if it can be implemented.
Now the elites in those countries have actually shown themselves to be perfectly happy with betraying their population in such a way as long as their own wealth and power is preserved, the problem is that it won’t be preserved because plunging those places back into abject poverty will destabilize them the same way it will destabilize the West.
So war it will be.
And what SV thinks is not a major factor in it all.
P.S. These are the same reasons that drove the wars of the early 20th century. In the 19th century the internal wealth distribution issues of Europe and the US Atlantic coast were resolved through colonization of other continents or the interior. But the world was fully colonized by the turn of the 20th century, so there was nowhere to expand anymore, thus war it was.
In the process we switched from territorial expansion to intensive exploitation of oil and gas as the driver of growth (WWI was still primarily a coal-powered war, the age of oil really began after that and WWII distributed the main stakes in the key deposits around the world). But now that is running out too — the shale plays were the last Hail Mary for North America, but the easy to produce ones are depleted now, and after that there is just the abyss of the right-hand side of the decline curve. So war it is once again…
Of course the only real solution is to end the reliance on growth, but that means the rich agreeing on not being so rich anymore, and that will never happen.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Oct 31 2023 20:17 utc | 320

Lwow could even become a similar project as Idlib in Syria, where all the US funded terrorists got parked after taking over other areas of the country. They are all stuck there, unable to move to Poland, nor unable to move to ex-Ukraine.
But regardless of what is the fate of Ukraine, the main goal of RUAF is to break the mobilization potential of Ukraine, and whatever gets left over is a residue.
Posted by: unimperator | Oct 31 2023 20:05 utc | 160

Lots of people have been drawing parallels between Syria/Assad and Russia/Putin.
Just as Syria is bombed by anyone who wishes and Assad appears powerless to reply in kind, so it has now become with Russia and Putin too.
And just as Syria cannot recover all its territories and is being terrorized out of the remainder, so will, etc….
You see where this is going.
Is that a win?

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Oct 31 2023 20:22 utc | 321

Lwow could even become a similar project as Idlib in Syria, where all the US funded terrorists got parked after taking over other areas of the country. They are all stuck there, unable to move to Poland, nor unable to move to ex-Ukraine.
But regardless of what is the fate of Ukraine, the main goal of RUAF is to break the mobilization potential of Ukraine, and whatever gets left over is a residue.
Posted by: unimperator | Oct 31 2023 20:05 utc | 160

Lots of people have been drawing parallels between Syria/Assad and Russia/Putin.
Just as Syria is bombed by anyone who wishes and Assad appears powerless to reply in kind, so it has now become with Russia and Putin too.
And just as Syria cannot recover all its territories and is being terrorized out of the remainder, so will, etc….
You see where this is going.
Is that a win?

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Oct 31 2023 20:22 utc | 322

It gets more bizarre by the day: Blinken dresses his children as Zelly & wife, you can’t make that stuff up…
Photo: https://www.anti-spiegel.ru/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/blinken-kinder.jpg

Posted by: Zet | Oct 31 2023 21:01 utc | 323

It gets more bizarre by the day: Blinken dresses his children as Zelly & wife, you can’t make that stuff up…
Photo: https://www.anti-spiegel.ru/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/blinken-kinder.jpg

Posted by: Zet | Oct 31 2023 21:01 utc | 324

What did the US leadetrship do with the american prisonners of war in Vietnam? What did that leadership do with the sailors on the american battleship in the Midditerranean sea when attacked by Israelli forces during the war between Israel-Lebanon? What did that leadership do with their “collabos” when leaving Afghanistan (they’ve been there for 20 years – and above 400,000 casualties)? And why do you think they would care for Ukraine? The’re just working on a “save-face” strategy

Posted by: Harfang67 | Oct 31 2023 21:02 utc | 325

What did the US leadetrship do with the american prisonners of war in Vietnam? What did that leadership do with the sailors on the american battleship in the Midditerranean sea when attacked by Israelli forces during the war between Israel-Lebanon? What did that leadership do with their “collabos” when leaving Afghanistan (they’ve been there for 20 years – and above 400,000 casualties)? And why do you think they would care for Ukraine? The’re just working on a “save-face” strategy

Posted by: Harfang67 | Oct 31 2023 21:02 utc | 326

This something I’ve been meaning to ask at a forum like MoA and isn’t connected to any previous commentary, that I know of.
I continue to not understand why the RF armed forces are still fighting along the borders of Donetsk, Luhansk. Why Zaporizhzhia, Kherson, on to the Black sea coast to Odessa oblast are not well along to occupied? Why are they not have already at least occupied Kharkov (oblast if not city) and at least half of Dnipropetrovsk. Why has the [sic] Ukrainian government allowed to function, and not buildings blasted to rubble, US-UK embassies, and locations in Lvov also so destroyed?
In 1999 the US-NATO bombed the Chinese embassy in Belgrade.
Why the restraint? When the people of Donetsk are still being bombed a year and a half into the war. Where is it coming from? Putin? Or is it inadequacy of RF military?

Posted by: BranDer | Oct 31 2023 21:11 utc | 327

This something I’ve been meaning to ask at a forum like MoA and isn’t connected to any previous commentary, that I know of.
I continue to not understand why the RF armed forces are still fighting along the borders of Donetsk, Luhansk. Why Zaporizhzhia, Kherson, on to the Black sea coast to Odessa oblast are not well along to occupied? Why are they not have already at least occupied Kharkov (oblast if not city) and at least half of Dnipropetrovsk. Why has the [sic] Ukrainian government allowed to function, and not buildings blasted to rubble, US-UK embassies, and locations in Lvov also so destroyed?
In 1999 the US-NATO bombed the Chinese embassy in Belgrade.
Why the restraint? When the people of Donetsk are still being bombed a year and a half into the war. Where is it coming from? Putin? Or is it inadequacy of RF military?

Posted by: BranDer | Oct 31 2023 21:11 utc | 328

“I continue to not understand why the RF armed forces are still fighting along the borders of Donetsk, Luhansk. Why Zaporizhzhia, Kherson, on to the Black sea coast to Odessa oblast are not well along to occupied? Why are they not have already at least occupied Kharkov (oblast if not city) and at least half of Dnipropetrovsk. Why has the [sic] Ukrainian government allowed to function, and not buildings blasted to rubble, US-UK embassies, and locations in Lvov also so destroyed?
In 1999 the US-NATO bombed the Chinese embassy in Belgrade.
Why the restraint? When the people of Donetsk are still being bombed a year and a half into the war. Where is it coming from? Putin? Or is it inadequacy of RF military?”
Posted by: BranDer | Oct 31 2023 21:11 utc | 166
Simply for the fact that the morning after the war One needs to clean up the mess and rebuild.
When the goal is to demilitarize your enemy and he obliges you by constantly coming up to your line of defense, it allows you to accomplish the goal and keep the post-war cleanup to a small, confined area that will not require as much effort and cost.
Russia remembers its history, especially the reconstruction after the Great Patriotic War.
Thomas

Posted by: Thomas | Oct 31 2023 21:23 utc | 329

“I continue to not understand why the RF armed forces are still fighting along the borders of Donetsk, Luhansk. Why Zaporizhzhia, Kherson, on to the Black sea coast to Odessa oblast are not well along to occupied? Why are they not have already at least occupied Kharkov (oblast if not city) and at least half of Dnipropetrovsk. Why has the [sic] Ukrainian government allowed to function, and not buildings blasted to rubble, US-UK embassies, and locations in Lvov also so destroyed?
In 1999 the US-NATO bombed the Chinese embassy in Belgrade.
Why the restraint? When the people of Donetsk are still being bombed a year and a half into the war. Where is it coming from? Putin? Or is it inadequacy of RF military?”
Posted by: BranDer | Oct 31 2023 21:11 utc | 166
Simply for the fact that the morning after the war One needs to clean up the mess and rebuild.
When the goal is to demilitarize your enemy and he obliges you by constantly coming up to your line of defense, it allows you to accomplish the goal and keep the post-war cleanup to a small, confined area that will not require as much effort and cost.
Russia remembers its history, especially the reconstruction after the Great Patriotic War.
Thomas

Posted by: Thomas | Oct 31 2023 21:23 utc | 330

@ 163
You’re tiresome, get new material. The Soviets slid tons of weapons to proxies fighting the USA directly and supported communist insurgent & militants on NATO territory. The West didn’t crumble, even when they outright lost wars.
The Russian position is in no way remotely comparable to Syria, and the only occupied “Russian territory” is that which Kiev already had at the start of 2022. Where the AFU is currently slowly being bled to death.
So people drawing parallels are talking out their ass, in a premeditated and deceptive manner. To push a particular narrative that is nothing to do with the facts.
You’re precious doom prophecies won’t come to pass nor will a crude, bloodthirsty fascist strongman like Girkin (or whatever his name is) “rise up” to save Russian.
Your stuck with the current RF government, and they’ll win slow & ugly just like in Chechnya and Syria too by the way. Where Assad will continue not to go and will slowly reconstitute the state.
Deal with it.

Posted by: Urban Fox | Oct 31 2023 21:26 utc | 331

@ 163
You’re tiresome, get new material. The Soviets slid tons of weapons to proxies fighting the USA directly and supported communist insurgent & militants on NATO territory. The West didn’t crumble, even when they outright lost wars.
The Russian position is in no way remotely comparable to Syria, and the only occupied “Russian territory” is that which Kiev already had at the start of 2022. Where the AFU is currently slowly being bled to death.
So people drawing parallels are talking out their ass, in a premeditated and deceptive manner. To push a particular narrative that is nothing to do with the facts.
You’re precious doom prophecies won’t come to pass nor will a crude, bloodthirsty fascist strongman like Girkin (or whatever his name is) “rise up” to save Russian.
Your stuck with the current RF government, and they’ll win slow & ugly just like in Chechnya and Syria too by the way. Where Assad will continue not to go and will slowly reconstitute the state.
Deal with it.

Posted by: Urban Fox | Oct 31 2023 21:26 utc | 332

Posted by: BranDer | Oct 31 2023 21:11 utc | 166
Why Zaporizhzhia, Kherson, on to the Black sea coast to Odessa oblast are not occupied?
Why are they not have already at least occupied Kharkov and at least half of Dnipropetrovsk?
Why has the Ukrainian government allowed to function, and not buildings blasted to rubble?

I agree with Thomas. In addition to reconstruction, there’s the rest of the world — they see well that Russia is conducting her war differently from the US or the previous colonial powers. This is not going to be mentioned in the New York Times but it will have an effect.
It is interesting and plain to see that China and Russia but also Iran are acting very responsibly to the manifold provocations of the US and their vassals (most recently: Dagestan but so many before: the nuclear plant attacks, drones over Kremlin, domestic terror in Russia).
Some here wish a painful demise to the evil empire and I can understand that feeling but it’ll be better to let them decline gradually and without a bang… and I get the feeling that Russia/China are doing just that.

Posted by: Konami | Oct 31 2023 21:57 utc | 333

Posted by: BranDer | Oct 31 2023 21:11 utc | 166
Why Zaporizhzhia, Kherson, on to the Black sea coast to Odessa oblast are not occupied?
Why are they not have already at least occupied Kharkov and at least half of Dnipropetrovsk?
Why has the Ukrainian government allowed to function, and not buildings blasted to rubble?

I agree with Thomas. In addition to reconstruction, there’s the rest of the world — they see well that Russia is conducting her war differently from the US or the previous colonial powers. This is not going to be mentioned in the New York Times but it will have an effect.
It is interesting and plain to see that China and Russia but also Iran are acting very responsibly to the manifold provocations of the US and their vassals (most recently: Dagestan but so many before: the nuclear plant attacks, drones over Kremlin, domestic terror in Russia).
Some here wish a painful demise to the evil empire and I can understand that feeling but it’ll be better to let them decline gradually and without a bang… and I get the feeling that Russia/China are doing just that.

Posted by: Konami | Oct 31 2023 21:57 utc | 334

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Oct 31 2023 20:22 utc | 163
Syria is weakened by US having bases inside it, and proxy puppets on all sides, and also they have connection through Turkey to SDF Kurd areas. Albeit it’s doubtful Turkey would allow US to use its area to supply SDF.
Idlib is directly supplied by Turkey.
Israel is making sporadic air strikes in Syria at will.
In Ukraine, it’s merely Russia vs. Ukraine backed by Nato and 35 countries. “Russia is being bombed”, you expect some bombing on your territory in a war of this magnitude, unfortunately yes. Most of the fighting is and will take place in former Ukraine. There are occasional MI6 backed terrorist attacks in Russia.
When Russia made the referendums on those areas, they were for the long term. There are still fighting in those territories under the referendum. Unfortunate, but it will not last forever.
Russia isn’t being attacked from many sides like Syria. It’s the front pointing to the west.
If the Ukrainian equivalent of Idlib Bandersastan in Lwow is formed, it will be bottled up and hermetically sealed to the east.

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 31 2023 22:00 utc | 335

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Oct 31 2023 20:22 utc | 163
Syria is weakened by US having bases inside it, and proxy puppets on all sides, and also they have connection through Turkey to SDF Kurd areas. Albeit it’s doubtful Turkey would allow US to use its area to supply SDF.
Idlib is directly supplied by Turkey.
Israel is making sporadic air strikes in Syria at will.
In Ukraine, it’s merely Russia vs. Ukraine backed by Nato and 35 countries. “Russia is being bombed”, you expect some bombing on your territory in a war of this magnitude, unfortunately yes. Most of the fighting is and will take place in former Ukraine. There are occasional MI6 backed terrorist attacks in Russia.
When Russia made the referendums on those areas, they were for the long term. There are still fighting in those territories under the referendum. Unfortunate, but it will not last forever.
Russia isn’t being attacked from many sides like Syria. It’s the front pointing to the west.
If the Ukrainian equivalent of Idlib Bandersastan in Lwow is formed, it will be bottled up and hermetically sealed to the east.

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 31 2023 22:00 utc | 336

“What do you reckon their behaviour and attitude will be when they realise that what they were led to think is “the west” is mostly a rotten mass-media / establishment politician projected mirage?
Posted by: Cynic | Oct 31 2023 19:54 utc | 159″
A good question. I suspect that most will do what most people do when they find that they’ve been fooled.
They’ll keep on doubling down.
Those who doubt- how many times has the US sold the Kurds down the river? And yet they keep coming back for more.

Posted by: Feral Finster | Oct 31 2023 22:00 utc | 337

“What do you reckon their behaviour and attitude will be when they realise that what they were led to think is “the west” is mostly a rotten mass-media / establishment politician projected mirage?
Posted by: Cynic | Oct 31 2023 19:54 utc | 159″
A good question. I suspect that most will do what most people do when they find that they’ve been fooled.
They’ll keep on doubling down.
Those who doubt- how many times has the US sold the Kurds down the river? And yet they keep coming back for more.

Posted by: Feral Finster | Oct 31 2023 22:00 utc | 338

They have no clue and are entirely disconnected from reality. The Ukraine never had a huge support level for this war from the civilian population. Everybody got out while the gettin’ was good. You’ve burned through like 3 armies worth of equipment and people. If you want to know who to blame for this mess look in a mirror. You Ukies have tried to force people to speak Ukrainian even though only about 18% of primary school children in Kiev speak Ukrainian at home. You treat your Russian speaking population like they’re subhuman. The US can sorta get away with that with our black population but that’s only because the black population in the US is less than 15% of the pop. Russian speakers are over 50% of the Ukrainian population. In the meantime Russia has hundreds of thousands of volunteers for their army. You’d better hope that Russia lets you sit out the winter.

Posted by: Jeff Harrison | Oct 31 2023 22:10 utc | 339

They have no clue and are entirely disconnected from reality. The Ukraine never had a huge support level for this war from the civilian population. Everybody got out while the gettin’ was good. You’ve burned through like 3 armies worth of equipment and people. If you want to know who to blame for this mess look in a mirror. You Ukies have tried to force people to speak Ukrainian even though only about 18% of primary school children in Kiev speak Ukrainian at home. You treat your Russian speaking population like they’re subhuman. The US can sorta get away with that with our black population but that’s only because the black population in the US is less than 15% of the pop. Russian speakers are over 50% of the Ukrainian population. In the meantime Russia has hundreds of thousands of volunteers for their army. You’d better hope that Russia lets you sit out the winter.

Posted by: Jeff Harrison | Oct 31 2023 22:10 utc | 340

To be fair, Zelensky won’t be the first national leader to have delusions about his nation being victorious in the face of impending destruction. There was a leader some years ago who, like Zelensky, moved markers and pieces about on maps imagining his vast army defeating an onrushing horde of enemies; unfortunately his vast army was almost non-existent and his enemies were not in the least interested in slowing their advance. In the end, that guy ended up taking his own life, which probably saved him from having to answer a lot of uncomfortable questions about his regime and its connections. Perhaps Zelensky will read something of that other guy and follow his example.

Posted by: John S | Oct 31 2023 22:33 utc | 341

To be fair, Zelensky won’t be the first national leader to have delusions about his nation being victorious in the face of impending destruction. There was a leader some years ago who, like Zelensky, moved markers and pieces about on maps imagining his vast army defeating an onrushing horde of enemies; unfortunately his vast army was almost non-existent and his enemies were not in the least interested in slowing their advance. In the end, that guy ended up taking his own life, which probably saved him from having to answer a lot of uncomfortable questions about his regime and its connections. Perhaps Zelensky will read something of that other guy and follow his example.

Posted by: John S | Oct 31 2023 22:33 utc | 342

bevin | Oct 31 2023 16:05 utc | 108–
Excellent comment bevin, thank you! I know we haven’t revisited all the CIA/OSS machinations with OUN in the immediate post-WW2 years for awhile now, but that doesn’t mean they never existed. We have many new barflies here who missed all that context that was provided 2-5 years ago. I’m going to ask substack if it can create annexes for its writers to post critical reference materials for their readers to access; something like a bibliography but with actual materials instead of just source listings.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 31 2023 22:48 utc | 343

bevin | Oct 31 2023 16:05 utc | 108–
Excellent comment bevin, thank you! I know we haven’t revisited all the CIA/OSS machinations with OUN in the immediate post-WW2 years for awhile now, but that doesn’t mean they never existed. We have many new barflies here who missed all that context that was provided 2-5 years ago. I’m going to ask substack if it can create annexes for its writers to post critical reference materials for their readers to access; something like a bibliography but with actual materials instead of just source listings.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 31 2023 22:48 utc | 344

Peter AU1 | Oct 31 2023 15:54 utc | 103–
Are you still unable to access your VK? I’m still interested in establishing a substack dedicated to your biolab/bioweapon work so more people can learn and become informed.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 31 2023 22:55 utc | 345

Peter AU1 | Oct 31 2023 15:54 utc | 103–
Are you still unable to access your VK? I’m still interested in establishing a substack dedicated to your biolab/bioweapon work so more people can learn and become informed.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 31 2023 22:55 utc | 346

It gets more bizarre by the day: Blinken dresses his children as Zelly & wife, you can’t make that stuff up…
Posted by: Zet | Oct 31 2023 21:01 utc | 164
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Apparently it was too late for Blinkieboy to change his order at the costume shop to Mr. and Mrs. Netanyahu.

Posted by: malenkov | Oct 31 2023 23:38 utc | 347

It gets more bizarre by the day: Blinken dresses his children as Zelly & wife, you can’t make that stuff up…
Posted by: Zet | Oct 31 2023 21:01 utc | 164
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Apparently it was too late for Blinkieboy to change his order at the costume shop to Mr. and Mrs. Netanyahu.

Posted by: malenkov | Oct 31 2023 23:38 utc | 348

The Hamas Hangliders of Death were a message from America’s rulers that this op is running out.
The prestige magazine piece explains to imperial middle management how to think and instruct others to think about this change.
Brandon Smith posits they’ll next co-opt “conservatives” with hot-button issues like a “Hamas” attack stateside.
The resultant mouth-foaming will support a draft. Then, we’re off to the races once again. We’ll change out Sunni Arabs for Shiite Persians who we’ll goad into something.
The problem is that the empire implodes if rates stay anywhere near 5%. And we’re outclassed by enemy rocketry and over-invested in surface fleets and manned aircraft.

Posted by: Talleyrand | Oct 31 2023 23:59 utc | 349

The Hamas Hangliders of Death were a message from America’s rulers that this op is running out.
The prestige magazine piece explains to imperial middle management how to think and instruct others to think about this change.
Brandon Smith posits they’ll next co-opt “conservatives” with hot-button issues like a “Hamas” attack stateside.
The resultant mouth-foaming will support a draft. Then, we’re off to the races once again. We’ll change out Sunni Arabs for Shiite Persians who we’ll goad into something.
The problem is that the empire implodes if rates stay anywhere near 5%. And we’re outclassed by enemy rocketry and over-invested in surface fleets and manned aircraft.

Posted by: Talleyrand | Oct 31 2023 23:59 utc | 350

laguerre@227
I am certain that you are right. The scenes in Istanbul last weekend would indicate that even those most anxious to win the plaudits of imperialists, and to change the subject, are being swept up by popular feeling.
And then there is the fact that the current Israeli government seems absolutely determined not only to fill Gaza with blood but to rub muslim noses in it. They have come to be so contemptuous of the untermenschen around them, and so deluded by the heroic historical epics that have been cobbled together for them that they seem absolutely determined to prove that One Israeli is worth a hundred “Arabs.’
Previous Israeli governments knew when to stop and were able to understand that they were dealing, in the Arafats and Sadats, with antagonists worthy of respect and capable, in the right circumstances, of commanding force enough to threaten their existence.
They knew better, in other words, than to waken the sleeping giant, overworked, malnourished, harassed, insecure and impoverished though. he no doubt is, of the Arab peoples, and the billion or more who share their faith.
It might be added, too, that the ‘Israel Right or Wrong’ attitudes of current western governments is quite new- the State Department, even as late as the early 1990s, had it complement of those who viewed good relations with Arab public opinion as essential in maintaining influence with governments which, while undoubtedly autocratic are always sensitive to elemental stirrings in the depths of the populace.
In the Foreign Office, where memories of the Irgun, Stern Gang (not to mention Hagannah) terror campaigns were engrained, relations with the Hashemites and the Gulf and south Yemen sheikhs and sultans were far more important than British interests in Israel, a cause favoured then by left Labour.
Current European governments are learning every weekend how badly they have been advised and misled by staff and ‘diplomats’ who have come to take all their advice on west Asia from Tel Aviv and Washington.
Whether or not Sisi is overthrown or Erdogan forced to act is hard to judge but it seems clear that Sunak and Starmer are both in trouble (which makes it easier for both) over Palestine and I cannot believe that France is not going to find itself in a position where it can either soften its attitude or fall into the temptation of hardening it in order to profit internally (!) from a deepening of tension between communities.
Those following events ought to reflect on the importance of time in shaping opinion, particularly where, as here, the flow of information is slow and uneven. It will take a lot to force governments to mobilise in defence of Gaza but if they do so there will be no going back. Not until, at the least the 1967 borders are re-established.

Posted by: bevin | Nov 1 2023 0:14 utc | 351

laguerre@227
I am certain that you are right. The scenes in Istanbul last weekend would indicate that even those most anxious to win the plaudits of imperialists, and to change the subject, are being swept up by popular feeling.
And then there is the fact that the current Israeli government seems absolutely determined not only to fill Gaza with blood but to rub muslim noses in it. They have come to be so contemptuous of the untermenschen around them, and so deluded by the heroic historical epics that have been cobbled together for them that they seem absolutely determined to prove that One Israeli is worth a hundred “Arabs.’
Previous Israeli governments knew when to stop and were able to understand that they were dealing, in the Arafats and Sadats, with antagonists worthy of respect and capable, in the right circumstances, of commanding force enough to threaten their existence.
They knew better, in other words, than to waken the sleeping giant, overworked, malnourished, harassed, insecure and impoverished though. he no doubt is, of the Arab peoples, and the billion or more who share their faith.
It might be added, too, that the ‘Israel Right or Wrong’ attitudes of current western governments is quite new- the State Department, even as late as the early 1990s, had it complement of those who viewed good relations with Arab public opinion as essential in maintaining influence with governments which, while undoubtedly autocratic are always sensitive to elemental stirrings in the depths of the populace.
In the Foreign Office, where memories of the Irgun, Stern Gang (not to mention Hagannah) terror campaigns were engrained, relations with the Hashemites and the Gulf and south Yemen sheikhs and sultans were far more important than British interests in Israel, a cause favoured then by left Labour.
Current European governments are learning every weekend how badly they have been advised and misled by staff and ‘diplomats’ who have come to take all their advice on west Asia from Tel Aviv and Washington.
Whether or not Sisi is overthrown or Erdogan forced to act is hard to judge but it seems clear that Sunak and Starmer are both in trouble (which makes it easier for both) over Palestine and I cannot believe that France is not going to find itself in a position where it can either soften its attitude or fall into the temptation of hardening it in order to profit internally (!) from a deepening of tension between communities.
Those following events ought to reflect on the importance of time in shaping opinion, particularly where, as here, the flow of information is slow and uneven. It will take a lot to force governments to mobilise in defence of Gaza but if they do so there will be no going back. Not until, at the least the 1967 borders are re-established.

Posted by: bevin | Nov 1 2023 0:14 utc | 352

My 5 cents opinion, the Empire is using the ME situation and threat to Iran and Syria as bait for a “freeze/cease fire” agreement in Ukraine.
I don’t think this is going to work.
Russia will insist on complete capitulation and war crime charges against the “leadership/elites” and their minions.
Unless there’s a coup by non approved actors, no one on Ukraine’s side can or will sign anything knowing that Russia will be seeking Justice.

Posted by: Suresh | Nov 1 2023 0:19 utc | 353

My 5 cents opinion, the Empire is using the ME situation and threat to Iran and Syria as bait for a “freeze/cease fire” agreement in Ukraine.
I don’t think this is going to work.
Russia will insist on complete capitulation and war crime charges against the “leadership/elites” and their minions.
Unless there’s a coup by non approved actors, no one on Ukraine’s side can or will sign anything knowing that Russia will be seeking Justice.

Posted by: Suresh | Nov 1 2023 0:19 utc | 354

B I am very sorry I posted the above onthe wrong thread-please accept my apologies, curating this place must be difficult enough without silly mistakes like this.
So far As Ukraine is concerned this important article by one of the few remaining opponents of the regime who has not been silenced/assassinated is published in Defend Denocracy Press
“We received and we publish the following letter from our comrade Maxim Goldarb, Chairman of the party “Union of Left Forces – For New Socialism”
“I am grateful to you and your publication for fearlessly publishing my articles, despite the fact that Western governments and most media outlets have a policy of silence regarding the real situation in Ukraine.
“Most recently, you published my article about how all those who disagree with the government are now being declared “traitors to the state” in Ukraine.
“Just a few weeks after the publication of this article, on October 12, 2023, the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) conducted a search in my Kiev apartment, during which personal belongings and pension savings of my parents were seized, as the punitive authorities could not find anything illegal. Then the Security Service of Ukraine and the prosecutor’s office, as if following the algorithm I mentioned in this recent article, charged me in absentia with allegedly committing information activities in favor of the aggressor and justifying aggression against Ukraine.
“A submission was sent to the court for my arrest and placement in prison. At the same time, the document of suspicion itself was not handed to me in accordance with the procedure established by law and was not sent to me, which grossly violated my rights to defense.
What was the basis for the SBU and prosecutors to make such a heavy accusation? Probably, some serious evidence of guilt, evidence: operational data, unclassified data, results of interrogations of witnesses, results of phone tapping, searches and inspections? No. Maybe espionage, sabotage, coup d’etat, murder, corruption? Also no. Because it was not and could not be: being a lawyer, an advocate, I always act exclusively in the legal field. Today, evidence of guilt in Ukraine is not needed to prosecute the opposition – only posts in social networks and statements about the causes and consequences of the war in Ukraine, a different, disagreeing position with the position of the official Ukrainian authorities are enough….”More at
https://www.defenddemocracy.press/a-letter-from-ukraine/

Posted by: bevin | Nov 1 2023 0:30 utc | 355

B I am very sorry I posted the above onthe wrong thread-please accept my apologies, curating this place must be difficult enough without silly mistakes like this.
So far As Ukraine is concerned this important article by one of the few remaining opponents of the regime who has not been silenced/assassinated is published in Defend Denocracy Press
“We received and we publish the following letter from our comrade Maxim Goldarb, Chairman of the party “Union of Left Forces – For New Socialism”
“I am grateful to you and your publication for fearlessly publishing my articles, despite the fact that Western governments and most media outlets have a policy of silence regarding the real situation in Ukraine.
“Most recently, you published my article about how all those who disagree with the government are now being declared “traitors to the state” in Ukraine.
“Just a few weeks after the publication of this article, on October 12, 2023, the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) conducted a search in my Kiev apartment, during which personal belongings and pension savings of my parents were seized, as the punitive authorities could not find anything illegal. Then the Security Service of Ukraine and the prosecutor’s office, as if following the algorithm I mentioned in this recent article, charged me in absentia with allegedly committing information activities in favor of the aggressor and justifying aggression against Ukraine.
“A submission was sent to the court for my arrest and placement in prison. At the same time, the document of suspicion itself was not handed to me in accordance with the procedure established by law and was not sent to me, which grossly violated my rights to defense.
What was the basis for the SBU and prosecutors to make such a heavy accusation? Probably, some serious evidence of guilt, evidence: operational data, unclassified data, results of interrogations of witnesses, results of phone tapping, searches and inspections? No. Maybe espionage, sabotage, coup d’etat, murder, corruption? Also no. Because it was not and could not be: being a lawyer, an advocate, I always act exclusively in the legal field. Today, evidence of guilt in Ukraine is not needed to prosecute the opposition – only posts in social networks and statements about the causes and consequences of the war in Ukraine, a different, disagreeing position with the position of the official Ukrainian authorities are enough….”More at
https://www.defenddemocracy.press/a-letter-from-ukraine/

Posted by: bevin | Nov 1 2023 0:30 utc | 356

I was talking to a friend yesterday about Israel and i toled him, that Israels real challenge, will start after the war. If of course things somehow settle down without the big bang (Iran war or blowing up Al Aqsa). The divide within the society is so deep by now, that there cant be a political settlement anymore. Bibis goverment is the end of the line. What could be more crayze than Ben (lefties in the ovens*) Gvir and co. Of course this goverment can not survive but can one imagine them giving up power in case of loosing the next election?
In Ukraines case things seem way more unpredictable. Zelenskys goverment always struck me as a bunch of opportunistic amateurs. Even Budanov, he dose not seem like a committed ideologue. He is right wing crazy but not a fanatic compared to somebody like Gvir. Azov and him strike me as Pop-Culture Nazis. They washed up into this positions and would run as soon as they can. Arestovich is another good example even though he is not in the goverment anymore. The whole idealogical construct of Ukraine is artificial and the smarter ones (who are in positions of power) are aware of it.
The actor president turning dictator is the epitome of this.
Its all hollow!
This is how they fought the war and sold of the country (its blood and soil!)
to forigne interests. And the grey eminence aka. shuggar daddy, Joe Biden is the hollowest of them all. The Ukraine special envoy, Mr. 10%, creditcard, talk to Hunter first – guy. All hollow! Simulacra which ultimativ signifier nothing.
This void / lag of ideological substance makes all of the story even more bleak and grim. Ultimatly those goons murderd 500.000 people for nothing. Not for a idea, not for glory and fame, not god and ultimatly not even for money. It was not the aim of their action. Just a byproduct. They got casted (Biden as well) and played a role. No „Wille zur Macht“ only sizing opportunitys. Klitchko might be different . He is real somehow.
To sum it up very simple: if one would offer Ben Gvir alot of money to give up his post and leave the country. He would refuse (not shure about Bibi)
In Ukraine every single person, even before realising the war is lost, would have accepted as long the offer is bigger than their current cashcow.
Zionism had at least a badass backstory, good script, memorable highlights,
decent cast and mby even a sequel. Current Ukraine has nothing of that.

Posted by: El.Lissitzky | Nov 1 2023 0:33 utc | 357

I was talking to a friend yesterday about Israel and i toled him, that Israels real challenge, will start after the war. If of course things somehow settle down without the big bang (Iran war or blowing up Al Aqsa). The divide within the society is so deep by now, that there cant be a political settlement anymore. Bibis goverment is the end of the line. What could be more crayze than Ben (lefties in the ovens*) Gvir and co. Of course this goverment can not survive but can one imagine them giving up power in case of loosing the next election?
In Ukraines case things seem way more unpredictable. Zelenskys goverment always struck me as a bunch of opportunistic amateurs. Even Budanov, he dose not seem like a committed ideologue. He is right wing crazy but not a fanatic compared to somebody like Gvir. Azov and him strike me as Pop-Culture Nazis. They washed up into this positions and would run as soon as they can. Arestovich is another good example even though he is not in the goverment anymore. The whole idealogical construct of Ukraine is artificial and the smarter ones (who are in positions of power) are aware of it.
The actor president turning dictator is the epitome of this.
Its all hollow!
This is how they fought the war and sold of the country (its blood and soil!)
to forigne interests. And the grey eminence aka. shuggar daddy, Joe Biden is the hollowest of them all. The Ukraine special envoy, Mr. 10%, creditcard, talk to Hunter first – guy. All hollow! Simulacra which ultimativ signifier nothing.
This void / lag of ideological substance makes all of the story even more bleak and grim. Ultimatly those goons murderd 500.000 people for nothing. Not for a idea, not for glory and fame, not god and ultimatly not even for money. It was not the aim of their action. Just a byproduct. They got casted (Biden as well) and played a role. No „Wille zur Macht“ only sizing opportunitys. Klitchko might be different . He is real somehow.
To sum it up very simple: if one would offer Ben Gvir alot of money to give up his post and leave the country. He would refuse (not shure about Bibi)
In Ukraine every single person, even before realising the war is lost, would have accepted as long the offer is bigger than their current cashcow.
Zionism had at least a badass backstory, good script, memorable highlights,
decent cast and mby even a sequel. Current Ukraine has nothing of that.

Posted by: El.Lissitzky | Nov 1 2023 0:33 utc | 358

* „lefties in the ovens“ … can somebody confirm this quote of Ben Gvir?
I read it some time ago but now could not find it anymore.
Defenetly a burner of a qoute for a Minister of interior affairs – if true that is!
In the current heated discourse it would be the swiss army knife of a quote. Can be applied all over the ideological spectrum and is guranted to raise the body temperature of the opponent.

Posted by: El. Lissitzky | Nov 1 2023 0:45 utc | 359

* „lefties in the ovens“ … can somebody confirm this quote of Ben Gvir?
I read it some time ago but now could not find it anymore.
Defenetly a burner of a qoute for a Minister of interior affairs – if true that is!
In the current heated discourse it would be the swiss army knife of a quote. Can be applied all over the ideological spectrum and is guranted to raise the body temperature of the opponent.

Posted by: El. Lissitzky | Nov 1 2023 0:45 utc | 360

In a recent talk in Australia John Mearsheimer takes a deep dive into this dilemma (video). He doesn’t foresee a good outcome.
Posted by b on October 31, 2023 at 8:12 UTC | Permalink

Mearsheimer appears in this talk as a strong supporter of the “pivot to Asia” and the “ruled based order” stories. He sounds to me like a chess player as much as Brzezinski and Kissinger sounded to me long ago. A view of the world at an abstract level and with a disregard for cooperatice approaches.
I learned some Chinese myself and I spent some months in China and I think Mershmeimer is lacking perspective when is sees Chiha as a threat to the US. As Putin says the US does not know how to dance the samba.

Posted by: Richard L | Nov 1 2023 0:56 utc | 361

In a recent talk in Australia John Mearsheimer takes a deep dive into this dilemma (video). He doesn’t foresee a good outcome.
Posted by b on October 31, 2023 at 8:12 UTC | Permalink

Mearsheimer appears in this talk as a strong supporter of the “pivot to Asia” and the “ruled based order” stories. He sounds to me like a chess player as much as Brzezinski and Kissinger sounded to me long ago. A view of the world at an abstract level and with a disregard for cooperatice approaches.
I learned some Chinese myself and I spent some months in China and I think Mershmeimer is lacking perspective when is sees Chiha as a threat to the US. As Putin says the US does not know how to dance the samba.

Posted by: Richard L | Nov 1 2023 0:56 utc | 362

Some days ago there was talk here about the interview of Gabor Maté (the interviewer is Russell Brand but he needs to ask very little: almost all of the 19 minutes it is Gabor Maté talking). I found the video excellent to show to people who don’t know the history of the Palestina conflict or are worried to speak up because of the obvious worries. Here I want to quote a sentence that I found particularly chilling:

Gabor Maté (interview youtube.com/watch?v=vJqlf2SGHC0 3:24)
There was a Zionist slogan called: A land without a people for a people without a land.

As a German, this rang a bell right away: “Volk ohne Raum” (a people without land) was a well-known slogan in Nazi Germany. The German phrase has an English wikipedia about the 1926 book by Hans Grimm and an image search will show you the posters of that era.
I believe the Gaza operation is unwinnable for Israel (i.e. for Netanjahu’s faction). Even if they manage to flatten the strip, the state Israel and the Zionist idea will not recover. It’s no accident that IDF is using extreme force to avoid images (no electricity; killing journalists on purposes) but it won’t do.

Posted by: Konami | Nov 1 2023 1:21 utc | 363

Some days ago there was talk here about the interview of Gabor Maté (the interviewer is Russell Brand but he needs to ask very little: almost all of the 19 minutes it is Gabor Maté talking). I found the video excellent to show to people who don’t know the history of the Palestina conflict or are worried to speak up because of the obvious worries. Here I want to quote a sentence that I found particularly chilling:

Gabor Maté (interview youtube.com/watch?v=vJqlf2SGHC0 3:24)
There was a Zionist slogan called: A land without a people for a people without a land.

As a German, this rang a bell right away: “Volk ohne Raum” (a people without land) was a well-known slogan in Nazi Germany. The German phrase has an English wikipedia about the 1926 book by Hans Grimm and an image search will show you the posters of that era.
I believe the Gaza operation is unwinnable for Israel (i.e. for Netanjahu’s faction). Even if they manage to flatten the strip, the state Israel and the Zionist idea will not recover. It’s no accident that IDF is using extreme force to avoid images (no electricity; killing journalists on purposes) but it won’t do.

Posted by: Konami | Nov 1 2023 1:21 utc | 364

B I am very sorry I posted the above onthe wrong thread-please accept my apologies, curating this place must be difficult enough without silly mistakes like this.
So far As Ukraine is concerned this important article by one of the few remaining opponents of the regime who has not been silenced/assassinated is published in Defend Denocracy Press
“We received and we publish the following letter from our comrade Maxim Goldarb, Chairman of the party “Union of Left Forces – For New Socialism”
“I am grateful to you and your publication for fearlessly publishing my articles, despite the fact that Western governments and most media outlets have a policy of silence regarding the real situation in Ukraine.
“Most recently, you published my article about how all those who disagree with the government are now being declared “traitors to the state” in Ukraine.
“Just a few weeks after the publication of this article, on October 12, 2023, the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) conducted a search in my Kiev apartment, during which personal belongings and pension savings of my parents were seized, as the punitive authorities could not find anything illegal. Then the Security Service of Ukraine and the prosecutor’s office, as if following the algorithm I mentioned in this recent article, charged me in absentia with allegedly committing information activities in favor of the aggressor and justifying aggression against Ukraine.
“A submission was sent to the court for my arrest and placement in prison. At the same time, the document of suspicion itself was not handed to me in accordance with the procedure established by law and was not sent to me, which grossly violated my rights to defense.
What was the basis for the SBU and prosecutors to make such a heavy accusation? Probably, some serious evidence of guilt, evidence: operational data, unclassified data, results of interrogations of witnesses, results of phone tapping, searches and inspections? No. Maybe espionage, sabotage, coup d’etat, murder, corruption? Also no. Because it was not and could not be: being a lawyer, an advocate, I always act exclusively in the legal field. Today, evidence of guilt in Ukraine is not needed to prosecute the opposition – only posts in social networks and statements about the causes and consequences of the war in Ukraine, a different, disagreeing position with the position of the official Ukrainian authorities are enough….”More at
https://www.defenddemocracy.press/a-letter-from-ukraine/
Posted by: bevin | Nov 1 2023 0:30 utc | 180
Bevin moving to SEP. Better stow that Stalin stuff. 😉

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Nov 1 2023 1:25 utc | 365

B I am very sorry I posted the above onthe wrong thread-please accept my apologies, curating this place must be difficult enough without silly mistakes like this.
So far As Ukraine is concerned this important article by one of the few remaining opponents of the regime who has not been silenced/assassinated is published in Defend Denocracy Press
“We received and we publish the following letter from our comrade Maxim Goldarb, Chairman of the party “Union of Left Forces – For New Socialism”
“I am grateful to you and your publication for fearlessly publishing my articles, despite the fact that Western governments and most media outlets have a policy of silence regarding the real situation in Ukraine.
“Most recently, you published my article about how all those who disagree with the government are now being declared “traitors to the state” in Ukraine.
“Just a few weeks after the publication of this article, on October 12, 2023, the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) conducted a search in my Kiev apartment, during which personal belongings and pension savings of my parents were seized, as the punitive authorities could not find anything illegal. Then the Security Service of Ukraine and the prosecutor’s office, as if following the algorithm I mentioned in this recent article, charged me in absentia with allegedly committing information activities in favor of the aggressor and justifying aggression against Ukraine.
“A submission was sent to the court for my arrest and placement in prison. At the same time, the document of suspicion itself was not handed to me in accordance with the procedure established by law and was not sent to me, which grossly violated my rights to defense.
What was the basis for the SBU and prosecutors to make such a heavy accusation? Probably, some serious evidence of guilt, evidence: operational data, unclassified data, results of interrogations of witnesses, results of phone tapping, searches and inspections? No. Maybe espionage, sabotage, coup d’etat, murder, corruption? Also no. Because it was not and could not be: being a lawyer, an advocate, I always act exclusively in the legal field. Today, evidence of guilt in Ukraine is not needed to prosecute the opposition – only posts in social networks and statements about the causes and consequences of the war in Ukraine, a different, disagreeing position with the position of the official Ukrainian authorities are enough….”More at
https://www.defenddemocracy.press/a-letter-from-ukraine/
Posted by: bevin | Nov 1 2023 0:30 utc | 180
Bevin moving to SEP. Better stow that Stalin stuff. 😉

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Nov 1 2023 1:25 utc | 366

Let’s see what Biden and Xi will agree on at next mongth sammit, if ever. Though seems Ze is about to go. Mavr did his job, the Mavr can leave.

Posted by: asehi | Nov 1 2023 1:27 utc | 367

Let’s see what Biden and Xi will agree on at next mongth sammit, if ever. Though seems Ze is about to go. Mavr did his job, the Mavr can leave.

Posted by: asehi | Nov 1 2023 1:27 utc | 368

My 5 cents opinion, the Empire is using the ME situation and threat to Iran and Syria as bait for a “freeze/cease fire” agreement in Ukraine.
I don’t think this is going to work.
Russia will insist on complete capitulation and war crime charges against the “leadership/elites” and their minions.
Unless there’s a coup by non approved actors, no one on Ukraine’s side can or will sign anything knowing that Russia will be seeking Justice.
Posted by: Suresh | Nov 1 2023 0:19 utc | 179
If US imperialism were rational, maybe. I think bibi sees weakness in it’s big brother and is going to strike while they still can. The Zionazis are horrid subhumans, but they aren’t stupid.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Nov 1 2023 1:30 utc | 369

My 5 cents opinion, the Empire is using the ME situation and threat to Iran and Syria as bait for a “freeze/cease fire” agreement in Ukraine.
I don’t think this is going to work.
Russia will insist on complete capitulation and war crime charges against the “leadership/elites” and their minions.
Unless there’s a coup by non approved actors, no one on Ukraine’s side can or will sign anything knowing that Russia will be seeking Justice.
Posted by: Suresh | Nov 1 2023 0:19 utc | 179
If US imperialism were rational, maybe. I think bibi sees weakness in it’s big brother and is going to strike while they still can. The Zionazis are horrid subhumans, but they aren’t stupid.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Nov 1 2023 1:30 utc | 370

What has Zelensky got to worry about?
This is the best gig he’s ever had. $600 million stolen so far. Mansions in Israel, Italy and Florida. And that’s just for starters, with another $61 billion on its way soon.
So what if a few hundred thousand Ukrainian schmucks have been killed? He got all his co religionists out safely to Israel on Day One. There are plenty more Ukrainians left to keep this going for a bit longer, to keep all the money rolling in, even if teenagers, old folk and women have to supply the cannon fodder.
You should be more positive about things. Look on the bright side.

Posted by: anon | Nov 1 2023 2:11 utc | 371

What has Zelensky got to worry about?
This is the best gig he’s ever had. $600 million stolen so far. Mansions in Israel, Italy and Florida. And that’s just for starters, with another $61 billion on its way soon.
So what if a few hundred thousand Ukrainian schmucks have been killed? He got all his co religionists out safely to Israel on Day One. There are plenty more Ukrainians left to keep this going for a bit longer, to keep all the money rolling in, even if teenagers, old folk and women have to supply the cannon fodder.
You should be more positive about things. Look on the bright side.

Posted by: anon | Nov 1 2023 2:11 utc | 372

This something I’ve been meaning to ask at a forum like MoA and isn’t connected to any previous commentary, that I know of.
I continue to not understand why the RF armed forces are still fighting along the borders of Donetsk, Luhansk. Why Zaporizhzhia, Kherson, on to the Black sea coast to Odessa oblast are not well along to occupied? Why are they not have already at least occupied Kharkov (oblast if not city) and at least half of Dnipropetrovsk. Why has the [sic] Ukrainian government allowed to function, and not buildings blasted to rubble, US-UK embassies, and locations in Lvov also so destroyed?
In 1999 the US-NATO bombed the Chinese embassy in Belgrade.
Why the restraint? When the people of Donetsk are still being bombed a year and a half into the war. Where is it coming from? Putin? Or is it inadequacy of RF military?
Posted by: BranDer | Oct 31 2023 21:11 utc | 166

Everyone in Russia is baffled.
Why attack Avdeevka head on, probably the most fortified place in the world, instead of attacking all along the currently frozen, but much less fortified and well defended front lines in Chernigov, Sumy and Kharkov, stretching the AFU completely, and thus making it easier in Avdeevka?
Doesn’t make any sense to me, nor does it make sense to everyone who was constantly asking these questions in Russia before the Kremlin clamped down on internal dissent this summer by jailing Strelkov and a few others (notice how the milbloggers have stopped criticizing the conduct of the war since then and have dramatically scaled down on reporting losses, which they regularly did in the past).
A few possible explanations of what is happening, some reasonably hopeful, others quite grim:
1) Escalation management plus the need to prepare properly. It is quite possible that if RU does a repeat of February 24 2022, NATO will jump in directly and take at the very least western Ukraine. And then the choice is WWIII or strategic defeat for Russia. The way to avoid that is to do a lightning quick take over of everything east of the river, plus Kiev, then go down to Odessa on the western side. But it needs to be done as quickly as possible so that NATO doesn’t have time to react. And that means overwhelming advantage over the AFU, which is to be achieved through a combination of further degrading the AFU and further building up Russian ground forces. And that has probably not been achieved yet. Remember how Putin said “If we want to go back to Kiev, we need to mobilize again”. But an open mobilization may also trigger escalation by itself, so they are doing it on the down low with volunteers and summoning people individually and slowly.
2) The forces for another front are simply not available because the Kremlin in fact refuses to mobilize for a variety of reasons (most of them not good at all), what they have right now is just enough to hold the front and attack in a few places, and it will be a very long time before the AFU is sufficiently chewed up for anything else. And there is no real plan for taking Kharkov soon.
The problem is that in both of these scenarios the strategic wisdom of expending 10-20K lives on Avdeevka is quite dubious. Why attack the most fortified place?
3) Here we get to the grim scenarios — the Kremlin is in fact looking for surrender terms and freezing the conflict because the oligarchy has won the internal fight and wants to be back sipping cocktails in Courchevel and Davos with the Western elites. Then the reason Avdeevka is attacked now is so that Donetsk can be taken out of artillery and Grad range, for political reasons — they will expend the 20K lives, then push a bit further west, perhaps to Pokrovsk (real name Krasnoarmeysk), and freeze it there. I am not sure what exactly the thinking is here — doing that will not save Donetsk from shelling, because they have already being firing HIMARS cluster missiles into Donetsk, and they have also been firing them at random civilian targets, just to terrorize the population, all the way into Alchevsk in the LNR; just moving the LOC to Pokrovsk will still leave Donetsk well within HIMARS range, and the AFU will get ever longer range weapons in the future.
The really ominous sign is that a year later the Kremlin has never mentioned Kherson city as something that will eventually be recovered. And that is a regional capital by the Russian constitution, which Putin is absolutely obliged to return under Russian control. Nothing prevented him from at least promising to do it if that was the plan, which strongly suggests that there is no such plan. That in turn means that there is no real commitment to recovering the whole of the DNR, i.e. Pokrovsk, Konstantinovka, Slavyansk and Kramatorsk, or Zaporozhye city (which too is technically part of the Zaporozhye oblast in the RF). What Kharkov/Sumy/Chernigov/Dnepropetrovsk/Poltava/Nikolaev/Odessa are we hallucinating about in that case?

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Nov 1 2023 2:26 utc | 373

This something I’ve been meaning to ask at a forum like MoA and isn’t connected to any previous commentary, that I know of.
I continue to not understand why the RF armed forces are still fighting along the borders of Donetsk, Luhansk. Why Zaporizhzhia, Kherson, on to the Black sea coast to Odessa oblast are not well along to occupied? Why are they not have already at least occupied Kharkov (oblast if not city) and at least half of Dnipropetrovsk. Why has the [sic] Ukrainian government allowed to function, and not buildings blasted to rubble, US-UK embassies, and locations in Lvov also so destroyed?
In 1999 the US-NATO bombed the Chinese embassy in Belgrade.
Why the restraint? When the people of Donetsk are still being bombed a year and a half into the war. Where is it coming from? Putin? Or is it inadequacy of RF military?
Posted by: BranDer | Oct 31 2023 21:11 utc | 166

Everyone in Russia is baffled.
Why attack Avdeevka head on, probably the most fortified place in the world, instead of attacking all along the currently frozen, but much less fortified and well defended front lines in Chernigov, Sumy and Kharkov, stretching the AFU completely, and thus making it easier in Avdeevka?
Doesn’t make any sense to me, nor does it make sense to everyone who was constantly asking these questions in Russia before the Kremlin clamped down on internal dissent this summer by jailing Strelkov and a few others (notice how the milbloggers have stopped criticizing the conduct of the war since then and have dramatically scaled down on reporting losses, which they regularly did in the past).
A few possible explanations of what is happening, some reasonably hopeful, others quite grim:
1) Escalation management plus the need to prepare properly. It is quite possible that if RU does a repeat of February 24 2022, NATO will jump in directly and take at the very least western Ukraine. And then the choice is WWIII or strategic defeat for Russia. The way to avoid that is to do a lightning quick take over of everything east of the river, plus Kiev, then go down to Odessa on the western side. But it needs to be done as quickly as possible so that NATO doesn’t have time to react. And that means overwhelming advantage over the AFU, which is to be achieved through a combination of further degrading the AFU and further building up Russian ground forces. And that has probably not been achieved yet. Remember how Putin said “If we want to go back to Kiev, we need to mobilize again”. But an open mobilization may also trigger escalation by itself, so they are doing it on the down low with volunteers and summoning people individually and slowly.
2) The forces for another front are simply not available because the Kremlin in fact refuses to mobilize for a variety of reasons (most of them not good at all), what they have right now is just enough to hold the front and attack in a few places, and it will be a very long time before the AFU is sufficiently chewed up for anything else. And there is no real plan for taking Kharkov soon.
The problem is that in both of these scenarios the strategic wisdom of expending 10-20K lives on Avdeevka is quite dubious. Why attack the most fortified place?
3) Here we get to the grim scenarios — the Kremlin is in fact looking for surrender terms and freezing the conflict because the oligarchy has won the internal fight and wants to be back sipping cocktails in Courchevel and Davos with the Western elites. Then the reason Avdeevka is attacked now is so that Donetsk can be taken out of artillery and Grad range, for political reasons — they will expend the 20K lives, then push a bit further west, perhaps to Pokrovsk (real name Krasnoarmeysk), and freeze it there. I am not sure what exactly the thinking is here — doing that will not save Donetsk from shelling, because they have already being firing HIMARS cluster missiles into Donetsk, and they have also been firing them at random civilian targets, just to terrorize the population, all the way into Alchevsk in the LNR; just moving the LOC to Pokrovsk will still leave Donetsk well within HIMARS range, and the AFU will get ever longer range weapons in the future.
The really ominous sign is that a year later the Kremlin has never mentioned Kherson city as something that will eventually be recovered. And that is a regional capital by the Russian constitution, which Putin is absolutely obliged to return under Russian control. Nothing prevented him from at least promising to do it if that was the plan, which strongly suggests that there is no such plan. That in turn means that there is no real commitment to recovering the whole of the DNR, i.e. Pokrovsk, Konstantinovka, Slavyansk and Kramatorsk, or Zaporozhye city (which too is technically part of the Zaporozhye oblast in the RF). What Kharkov/Sumy/Chernigov/Dnepropetrovsk/Poltava/Nikolaev/Odessa are we hallucinating about in that case?

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Nov 1 2023 2:26 utc | 374

avdeevka clearing out wouldn’t have anything to do with the constant bombing of donestk… nah.. that wouldn’t make any sense to the genius’s here on the board..

Posted by: james | Nov 1 2023 2:35 utc | 375

avdeevka clearing out wouldn’t have anything to do with the constant bombing of donestk… nah.. that wouldn’t make any sense to the genius’s here on the board..

Posted by: james | Nov 1 2023 2:35 utc | 376

@ james | Nov 1 2023 2:35 utc | 190 who says there is a challenge to Scorpion’s genius here on the board…..grin
Just throw out a bevin and call it good
If you aren’t paid to throw sand into readers’ eyes and you do so out of malice, vanity or stupidity, not even the plea of economic necessity excuses your egregious behaviour.
Kindly leave the stage- to honest actors.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 1 2023 2:49 utc | 377

@ james | Nov 1 2023 2:35 utc | 190 who says there is a challenge to Scorpion’s genius here on the board…..grin
Just throw out a bevin and call it good
If you aren’t paid to throw sand into readers’ eyes and you do so out of malice, vanity or stupidity, not even the plea of economic necessity excuses your egregious behaviour.
Kindly leave the stage- to honest actors.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 1 2023 2:49 utc | 378

by shаdοwbanned | Nov 1 2023 2:26 utc | 189
That in turn means that there is no real commitment to recovering the whole of the DNR, i.e. Pokrovsk, Konstantinovka, Slavyansk and Kramatorsk, or Zaporozhye city (which too is technically part of the Zaporozhye oblast in the RF). What Kharkov/Sumy/Chernigov/Dnepropetrovsk/Poltava/Nikolaev/Odessa are we hallucinating about in that case?
Russian evil plan:
pretend to fight, invite enemy to your defensive lines, kill everyone, walk in unopposed. Voilà.
Now, back to STAVKA…

Posted by: whirlX | Nov 1 2023 2:50 utc | 379

by shаdοwbanned | Nov 1 2023 2:26 utc | 189
That in turn means that there is no real commitment to recovering the whole of the DNR, i.e. Pokrovsk, Konstantinovka, Slavyansk and Kramatorsk, or Zaporozhye city (which too is technically part of the Zaporozhye oblast in the RF). What Kharkov/Sumy/Chernigov/Dnepropetrovsk/Poltava/Nikolaev/Odessa are we hallucinating about in that case?
Russian evil plan:
pretend to fight, invite enemy to your defensive lines, kill everyone, walk in unopposed. Voilà.
Now, back to STAVKA…

Posted by: whirlX | Nov 1 2023 2:50 utc | 380

RE – His entire address was based on telling them exactly what he knew they wanted to hear. Had he begun by spouting facts and realty, he’d still be explaining it. And he managed to cover all of the salient parts of his thesis without offending one obedient Drone.
Hoarsewhisperer | Oct 31 2023 15:09 utc | 86

Hi, I don’t think you’re right here. I have heard many Mearsheimer talks and this is standard fare .. he didn’t change a thing for Australian ears. This is his “facts and reality:101” going back years.
As others have noticed, Mearsheimer has a deeply ideological view about the US Empire and that China is a threat ….. he lives and breathes it everywhere he goes. And he is dead wrong. And his views are dangerous. But sure, he does have good access to facts on history etc, and he does tell the world how utterly crazy the US leadership is.
But what can we do about it? Nothing … he is all over the media in australia now poisoning minds – its how the system works. Cheers

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Nov 1 2023 2:53 utc | 381

RE – His entire address was based on telling them exactly what he knew they wanted to hear. Had he begun by spouting facts and realty, he’d still be explaining it. And he managed to cover all of the salient parts of his thesis without offending one obedient Drone.
Hoarsewhisperer | Oct 31 2023 15:09 utc | 86

Hi, I don’t think you’re right here. I have heard many Mearsheimer talks and this is standard fare .. he didn’t change a thing for Australian ears. This is his “facts and reality:101” going back years.
As others have noticed, Mearsheimer has a deeply ideological view about the US Empire and that China is a threat ….. he lives and breathes it everywhere he goes. And he is dead wrong. And his views are dangerous. But sure, he does have good access to facts on history etc, and he does tell the world how utterly crazy the US leadership is.
But what can we do about it? Nothing … he is all over the media in australia now poisoning minds – its how the system works. Cheers

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Nov 1 2023 2:53 utc | 382

@ psychohistorian | Nov 1 2023 2:49 utc | 191
thanks james.. i liked that throw out a bevin line.. i am busy handing out candy here, but we haven’t had many kids coming by.. we had one girl with small empty cereal boxes taped onto a white shirt that looked like the shirt had blood on it.. i asked her what she was? – serial killer, lol..

Posted by: james | Nov 1 2023 2:57 utc | 383

@ psychohistorian | Nov 1 2023 2:49 utc | 191
thanks james.. i liked that throw out a bevin line.. i am busy handing out candy here, but we haven’t had many kids coming by.. we had one girl with small empty cereal boxes taped onto a white shirt that looked like the shirt had blood on it.. i asked her what she was? – serial killer, lol..

Posted by: james | Nov 1 2023 2:57 utc | 384

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 31 2023 14:13 utc | 75
bevin | Oct 31 2023 16:05 utc | 108
karl is right: the Ukrainian people are to be pitied.
Sure, I do pity them .. not the neonazis though. Yes they were lied to and manipulated. But stop generalizing that everyone in Ukraine was like that. Stop generalizing that Zelenskys “peace” policy is the ONLY reason people voted for him or that ALL the people voted on that basis.
Ukraine was the most CORRUPT country before Zekensky ran for office — who were CORRUPT? The Ukrainian people were corrupt to the core. It wasn’t a minority — LOOK at zelenskys TV show – everyone was lambasted for being corrupt.
AS I said in my comment (which needs a ,long article to explain properly) stop making excuses for these peoples gross failures over the DECADES !!!
Yes oligarchs and the US Neocons are to blame heavily …. but they had a people who were EASILY USED and MANIPULATED and BOUGHT OFF.
Zelensky backflipped on his election “peace with Donbass/russia” promises in 2019 …. the Ukraine people did nothing. He walked away from negotiations in later 2021 with Putin; and in Turkey in March 2022 ….. and the people did nothing. Why did they not RIOT and the soldiers leave enmass and lay down their arms?
The people keep showing up to fight on the front lines and do nothing. They are as weak as piss and are as much responsible for the plight of their country as that loser Zelensky is …. both the sick violent neonazi fascists from the west and the middle ground Ukrainian people who were too scared to take a stand against this evil.
The people in the Donbass and Crimea stood up and fought …. why not the rest? Because Nuland was oh so tricky and manipulative? Give it a break. Seriously. You knew and I knew what a shit hole Ukraine was in 2014 ….. surely? Zelensky was a bullshitting TV actor running for President? ffs. The Coup was a criminal fraud. Poroshenko was a fraud …. the US/NATO was pouring arms and training new recruits to fight RUSSIA/Donbas but Zelensky was a Saviour? Please, no.
Sure Pity them (for being cowards or stupid) but they are still ALL Collectively responsible for the destruction of their nation. I’m not. You’re not. They are.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Nov 1 2023 3:15 utc | 385

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 31 2023 14:13 utc | 75
bevin | Oct 31 2023 16:05 utc | 108
karl is right: the Ukrainian people are to be pitied.
Sure, I do pity them .. not the neonazis though. Yes they were lied to and manipulated. But stop generalizing that everyone in Ukraine was like that. Stop generalizing that Zelenskys “peace” policy is the ONLY reason people voted for him or that ALL the people voted on that basis.
Ukraine was the most CORRUPT country before Zekensky ran for office — who were CORRUPT? The Ukrainian people were corrupt to the core. It wasn’t a minority — LOOK at zelenskys TV show – everyone was lambasted for being corrupt.
AS I said in my comment (which needs a ,long article to explain properly) stop making excuses for these peoples gross failures over the DECADES !!!
Yes oligarchs and the US Neocons are to blame heavily …. but they had a people who were EASILY USED and MANIPULATED and BOUGHT OFF.
Zelensky backflipped on his election “peace with Donbass/russia” promises in 2019 …. the Ukraine people did nothing. He walked away from negotiations in later 2021 with Putin; and in Turkey in March 2022 ….. and the people did nothing. Why did they not RIOT and the soldiers leave enmass and lay down their arms?
The people keep showing up to fight on the front lines and do nothing. They are as weak as piss and are as much responsible for the plight of their country as that loser Zelensky is …. both the sick violent neonazi fascists from the west and the middle ground Ukrainian people who were too scared to take a stand against this evil.
The people in the Donbass and Crimea stood up and fought …. why not the rest? Because Nuland was oh so tricky and manipulative? Give it a break. Seriously. You knew and I knew what a shit hole Ukraine was in 2014 ….. surely? Zelensky was a bullshitting TV actor running for President? ffs. The Coup was a criminal fraud. Poroshenko was a fraud …. the US/NATO was pouring arms and training new recruits to fight RUSSIA/Donbas but Zelensky was a Saviour? Please, no.
Sure Pity them (for being cowards or stupid) but they are still ALL Collectively responsible for the destruction of their nation. I’m not. You’re not. They are.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Nov 1 2023 3:15 utc | 386

Lavrov’s Dog | Nov 1 2023 3:15 utc | 195–
Sorry, but Ukraine wasn’t and isn’t the most corrupt nation on the planet. The outlaw US Empire is by many exponential amounts more corrupt than anything ever seen. How is it that the Federal government’s balance sheet shows it $36 Trillion in the red? That figure reveals its genuine level of corruption. The Outlaw US Empire is the epitome of Lord Acton’s adage about power corrupting absolutely. Yes, Ukraine’s government is corrupt as are ALL Neoliberal governments for that’s their nature–they’re parasitic and afflicted with Pleonexia and Megalomania. Hell, the UK is far more corrupt than Ukraine. Yes, the UkroNazis are worthy of our enmity, but they’re others far more deserving.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 1 2023 3:33 utc | 387

Lavrov’s Dog | Nov 1 2023 3:15 utc | 195–
Sorry, but Ukraine wasn’t and isn’t the most corrupt nation on the planet. The outlaw US Empire is by many exponential amounts more corrupt than anything ever seen. How is it that the Federal government’s balance sheet shows it $36 Trillion in the red? That figure reveals its genuine level of corruption. The Outlaw US Empire is the epitome of Lord Acton’s adage about power corrupting absolutely. Yes, Ukraine’s government is corrupt as are ALL Neoliberal governments for that’s their nature–they’re parasitic and afflicted with Pleonexia and Megalomania. Hell, the UK is far more corrupt than Ukraine. Yes, the UkroNazis are worthy of our enmity, but they’re others far more deserving.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 1 2023 3:33 utc | 388

@ Lavrov’s Dog | Nov 1 2023 3:15 utc | 195
As I read your comment, as an American I wonder if the same could not be said about about us….what country are you from?, don’t mean to assume, but all Western nation’s citizens are complicit in not being good citizens to some degree.
As I continue to point out, the incentives we live by are set by having global private finance at the core of the Western form of social organization. Along with making finance a public utility comes the need for developing whole new bottom-up systems of governance and growing the non-corrupt public leadership to run the system we the people design and manage actively.
One of the reasons I don’t like religions is that they are a crutch for humans to pass off individual and collective responsibility for their actions…..I rant here regularly about the change of the original US motto of E Pluribus Unum to In God We Trust being the death of the American dream.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 1 2023 3:43 utc | 389

@ Lavrov’s Dog | Nov 1 2023 3:15 utc | 195
As I read your comment, as an American I wonder if the same could not be said about about us….what country are you from?, don’t mean to assume, but all Western nation’s citizens are complicit in not being good citizens to some degree.
As I continue to point out, the incentives we live by are set by having global private finance at the core of the Western form of social organization. Along with making finance a public utility comes the need for developing whole new bottom-up systems of governance and growing the non-corrupt public leadership to run the system we the people design and manage actively.
One of the reasons I don’t like religions is that they are a crutch for humans to pass off individual and collective responsibility for their actions…..I rant here regularly about the change of the original US motto of E Pluribus Unum to In God We Trust being the death of the American dream.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 1 2023 3:43 utc | 390

Let’s see what Biden and Xi will agree on at next mongth sammit, if ever.
Posted by: asehi | Nov 1 2023 1:27 utc | 186
If Xi finally decides for certain he’ll go, then the summit will be called off by the US for some spurious reason. The whole thing is a hoax.

Posted by: HERMIUS | Nov 1 2023 4:24 utc | 391

Let’s see what Biden and Xi will agree on at next mongth sammit, if ever.
Posted by: asehi | Nov 1 2023 1:27 utc | 186
If Xi finally decides for certain he’ll go, then the summit will be called off by the US for some spurious reason. The whole thing is a hoax.

Posted by: HERMIUS | Nov 1 2023 4:24 utc | 392

by: karlof1 | Nov 1 2023 3:33 utc | 196
I agree with everything else and thanks the for thought provoking perspective.
But, this sentence bothers me a bit:
Sorry, but Ukraine wasn’t and isn’t the most corrupt nation on the planet.
Yes, a bit overdone as on planet or in a universe, but it is corrupt where it matters and for years, on many levels.
In the neighboring countries, even before Ukraine gaining independence, everybody knew that the most rotten and corruptible class is rising up there.
If it was the “Russian mafia scaring the Eastern Europe”, it was very probably a palette of Ukrainian ones. Since the day one Ukraine sucked on Russian energy, infrastructure, basically everything and it was an ongoing conflict with the gas transfer fees and such ever since. So many got rich on smuggling energy, steal stuff and property. Privatization was murky business everywhere, but in Ukraine it was the special case.
Russia is not squeaky clean there, but it has been somehow curbed on corruption at many levels.
Than again, what is a corruption? It has been a lifestyle in the Med and Levant and Orient that helped propagate civilizations.
While the USA is internally in the system deeply corrupt, it also creates abnormalities, such as genocide is a ok, peer conflicts are cool, that comes out of corruption. The West follows. That mindset cannot end up well.

Posted by: whirlX | Nov 1 2023 4:30 utc | 393

by: karlof1 | Nov 1 2023 3:33 utc | 196
I agree with everything else and thanks the for thought provoking perspective.
But, this sentence bothers me a bit:
Sorry, but Ukraine wasn’t and isn’t the most corrupt nation on the planet.
Yes, a bit overdone as on planet or in a universe, but it is corrupt where it matters and for years, on many levels.
In the neighboring countries, even before Ukraine gaining independence, everybody knew that the most rotten and corruptible class is rising up there.
If it was the “Russian mafia scaring the Eastern Europe”, it was very probably a palette of Ukrainian ones. Since the day one Ukraine sucked on Russian energy, infrastructure, basically everything and it was an ongoing conflict with the gas transfer fees and such ever since. So many got rich on smuggling energy, steal stuff and property. Privatization was murky business everywhere, but in Ukraine it was the special case.
Russia is not squeaky clean there, but it has been somehow curbed on corruption at many levels.
Than again, what is a corruption? It has been a lifestyle in the Med and Levant and Orient that helped propagate civilizations.
While the USA is internally in the system deeply corrupt, it also creates abnormalities, such as genocide is a ok, peer conflicts are cool, that comes out of corruption. The West follows. That mindset cannot end up well.

Posted by: whirlX | Nov 1 2023 4:30 utc | 394

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ War Map and the Situation on the Fronts for the Evening of 31 October 2023; pub. 00:06⚡️
👍 The AFU shelled residential neighbourhoods in the Budyonnovsky district of #Donetsk with cluster munitions. After the first strikes, a large fire broke out. And after rescuers and an ambulance arrived at the scene, the enemy launched a second attack, which killed two civilians and wounded 12 people, including three journalists and two employees of the Ministry of Emergency Situations.
⚔️ Situation on the Fronts over the past Day
🔹#Bakhmut (#Artyomovsk) Direction:
▪️ The Russian army counterattacked in the #Berkhovka area. Fierce fighting continues near #Kleshcheyevka and #Andreyevka, with our fighters foiling all attempts by the AFU to break through near the railway. In addition, the enemy unsuccessfully attacked near #Kurdyumovka.
🔹#Donetsk Direction:
▪️ In the #Avdeyevka sector, our fighters foiled attempts by the AFU men to counterattack near the #Slagheap. In addition, the Russian army advanced in the area of #Severnoye, as well as #Pervomayskoye.
▪️ There are no changes in #Maryinka. At #Novomikhaylovka there is an advance in the direction of the pumping station.
🔹#Zaporozhye Direction:
▪️ In the #Orekhov section, the AFU are pounding our positions in the areas of #Kopani and #Novoprokopovka without much success. Meanwhile, Russian fighters counterattacked near #Verbovoye.
▪️ Positional battles are taking place on the #Vremyevka ledge.
⚡️ The Russian Army struck enemy military airfields in the #Khmelnitsky and #Poltava regions. The Su-24s left by the AFU are stored in #Starokonstantinov and #Mirgorod. In addition, enemy depots of ammo, fuel and lubricants could have been hit.
💡 Near #Avdeyevka, Russian UAV operators filmed the destruction of a Leopard from the first shot. The tank from the notorious 47th AFU Brigade was not helped either by the welded grills or the crew hurriedly fleeing from the burning vehicle. The fighters themselves were delighted after successfully hitting the target, especially since it was the first German “cat” for them.

https://t.me/sitreports/17310

Posted by: Down South | Nov 1 2023 4:44 utc | 395

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ War Map and the Situation on the Fronts for the Evening of 31 October 2023; pub. 00:06⚡️
👍 The AFU shelled residential neighbourhoods in the Budyonnovsky district of #Donetsk with cluster munitions. After the first strikes, a large fire broke out. And after rescuers and an ambulance arrived at the scene, the enemy launched a second attack, which killed two civilians and wounded 12 people, including three journalists and two employees of the Ministry of Emergency Situations.
⚔️ Situation on the Fronts over the past Day
🔹#Bakhmut (#Artyomovsk) Direction:
▪️ The Russian army counterattacked in the #Berkhovka area. Fierce fighting continues near #Kleshcheyevka and #Andreyevka, with our fighters foiling all attempts by the AFU to break through near the railway. In addition, the enemy unsuccessfully attacked near #Kurdyumovka.
🔹#Donetsk Direction:
▪️ In the #Avdeyevka sector, our fighters foiled attempts by the AFU men to counterattack near the #Slagheap. In addition, the Russian army advanced in the area of #Severnoye, as well as #Pervomayskoye.
▪️ There are no changes in #Maryinka. At #Novomikhaylovka there is an advance in the direction of the pumping station.
🔹#Zaporozhye Direction:
▪️ In the #Orekhov section, the AFU are pounding our positions in the areas of #Kopani and #Novoprokopovka without much success. Meanwhile, Russian fighters counterattacked near #Verbovoye.
▪️ Positional battles are taking place on the #Vremyevka ledge.
⚡️ The Russian Army struck enemy military airfields in the #Khmelnitsky and #Poltava regions. The Su-24s left by the AFU are stored in #Starokonstantinov and #Mirgorod. In addition, enemy depots of ammo, fuel and lubricants could have been hit.
💡 Near #Avdeyevka, Russian UAV operators filmed the destruction of a Leopard from the first shot. The tank from the notorious 47th AFU Brigade was not helped either by the welded grills or the crew hurriedly fleeing from the burning vehicle. The fighters themselves were delighted after successfully hitting the target, especially since it was the first German “cat” for them.

https://t.me/sitreports/17310

Posted by: Down South | Nov 1 2023 4:44 utc | 396

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦🔎 How the AFU Tactics Have Changed in the #Zaporozhye Direction – Military Chronicles Analysis⚡️
❗️The offensive on this section of the front is gradually waning. The AFU is trying to adapt to changes in the combat situation, but is facing serious difficulties.
🔹What is Happening?
▪️From August to the end of October there was a gradual decrease in the intensity of the use of artillery by the AFU, which can be attributed to a number of mutually influencing factors. The main one, during the first phase of the summer campaign, significant stocks of 155mm artillery shells were used up and lost during the AFU strikes, which were not subsequently replenished. Already on 7 July, the #US announced the delivery of DPICM cluster munitions to #Ukraine. Such ammunition is poorly suited for a number of tasks, in particular the destruction of field and long-term fortifications, but for a while made it possible to compensate for the shortage of conventional artillery ammunition. However, after almost five months of active combat and against a backdrop of reduced supplies, the shortage of ammunition for field and self-propelled artillery has worsened.
▪️In addition to 152/155 mm high-explosive fragmentation ammunition, in a number of directions and areas there is a decrease in the activity of mortars of 120 and 82 mm caliber, which indirectly indicates a shortage and the need to save such ammunition. As a result, in a number of areas, the AFU are forced not only to reduce fire support activity, but also to look for substitutes.
🔹What are the AFU trying to replace Artillery with?
▪️FPV drones and armored vehicles often act as ersatz artillery.
▪️As a rule, the equipment is used at night for direct fire at the Russian positions. FPV drones are used against scouted or detected targets within the range of UAVs.
▪️However, due to design features, neither type of weapon can fully fulfil the same tasks as artillery.
▪️For example, the single M2 Bradley IFVs of the AFU’s 47th Magura Brigade, some of which the AFU command deployed to #Avdeyevka, are used as direct infantry support weapons.
▪️This is connected not so much with the need to ensure a breakthrough or advance, but rather with the requirement to signify the AFU’s presence in a certain area. In other words, IFVs are not used for offensive action, but for organising harassing fire, which goes against the concept of their combat use.
🔹What is wrong with this approach?
▪️The main problem for the M2 Bradley IFV, oddly enough, was combat operations at night. American vehicles are capable of firing at night, but crews in most cases use only the 25-mm Bushmaster cannon for firing. It is not intended to destroy field fortifications and is of little assistance to the AFU infantry units. In addition, the use of small groups of equipment exposes combat vehicles to the risk of falling under counter fire.
▪️This is especially critical in cases of foreign-supplied armoured vehicles, which the AFU cannot replace.
▪️FPV drones, on the other hand, have become pure “frontline improvisation” for the AFU due to the decrease in artillery activity. Their effectiveness at the moment can be compared to the French trench mortars of the First World War. The area of application of these devices is narrow and their effectiveness is low. At best, they can be used for very limited, specialised tactical tasks.
📌 In any case, the trend shows that the AFU’s stocks of conventional ammunition have been seriously depleted by the summer and autumn campaign,- and in some areas they have to be seriously saved, while there is no shortage of ammunition on the Russian side.

Posted by: Down South | Nov 1 2023 5:22 utc | 397

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦🔎 How the AFU Tactics Have Changed in the #Zaporozhye Direction – Military Chronicles Analysis⚡️
❗️The offensive on this section of the front is gradually waning. The AFU is trying to adapt to changes in the combat situation, but is facing serious difficulties.
🔹What is Happening?
▪️From August to the end of October there was a gradual decrease in the intensity of the use of artillery by the AFU, which can be attributed to a number of mutually influencing factors. The main one, during the first phase of the summer campaign, significant stocks of 155mm artillery shells were used up and lost during the AFU strikes, which were not subsequently replenished. Already on 7 July, the #US announced the delivery of DPICM cluster munitions to #Ukraine. Such ammunition is poorly suited for a number of tasks, in particular the destruction of field and long-term fortifications, but for a while made it possible to compensate for the shortage of conventional artillery ammunition. However, after almost five months of active combat and against a backdrop of reduced supplies, the shortage of ammunition for field and self-propelled artillery has worsened.
▪️In addition to 152/155 mm high-explosive fragmentation ammunition, in a number of directions and areas there is a decrease in the activity of mortars of 120 and 82 mm caliber, which indirectly indicates a shortage and the need to save such ammunition. As a result, in a number of areas, the AFU are forced not only to reduce fire support activity, but also to look for substitutes.
🔹What are the AFU trying to replace Artillery with?
▪️FPV drones and armored vehicles often act as ersatz artillery.
▪️As a rule, the equipment is used at night for direct fire at the Russian positions. FPV drones are used against scouted or detected targets within the range of UAVs.
▪️However, due to design features, neither type of weapon can fully fulfil the same tasks as artillery.
▪️For example, the single M2 Bradley IFVs of the AFU’s 47th Magura Brigade, some of which the AFU command deployed to #Avdeyevka, are used as direct infantry support weapons.
▪️This is connected not so much with the need to ensure a breakthrough or advance, but rather with the requirement to signify the AFU’s presence in a certain area. In other words, IFVs are not used for offensive action, but for organising harassing fire, which goes against the concept of their combat use.
🔹What is wrong with this approach?
▪️The main problem for the M2 Bradley IFV, oddly enough, was combat operations at night. American vehicles are capable of firing at night, but crews in most cases use only the 25-mm Bushmaster cannon for firing. It is not intended to destroy field fortifications and is of little assistance to the AFU infantry units. In addition, the use of small groups of equipment exposes combat vehicles to the risk of falling under counter fire.
▪️This is especially critical in cases of foreign-supplied armoured vehicles, which the AFU cannot replace.
▪️FPV drones, on the other hand, have become pure “frontline improvisation” for the AFU due to the decrease in artillery activity. Their effectiveness at the moment can be compared to the French trench mortars of the First World War. The area of application of these devices is narrow and their effectiveness is low. At best, they can be used for very limited, specialised tactical tasks.
📌 In any case, the trend shows that the AFU’s stocks of conventional ammunition have been seriously depleted by the summer and autumn campaign,- and in some areas they have to be seriously saved, while there is no shortage of ammunition on the Russian side.

Posted by: Down South | Nov 1 2023 5:22 utc | 398

What’s near Kupyansk?
Tamans have the enemy by the throat
Front-line report 10/31/2023 from journalist Marat Khairullin
At first glance, it seems that there is a lull in the Kupyansky direction. Using which the Ukrainians are trying to counterattack. But in reality the situation is much more interesting.
Yesterday the enemy tried to attack southwest of Sinkovka, losing 4 tanks – two of which were Leopards. The meaning of this attack for the Ukrainian Armed Forces was an attempt to dislodge our troops from a previously occupied position, which is very convenient for an assault on the key village of Petropavlovskoye in the Kupyansk direction. Which, in fact, opens the road to Kupyansk.
It should be noted here that the Ukrainian Armed Forces are increasingly experiencing a shortage of armored vehicles. Only this can explain that the Ukrainian Armed Forces drove the slow-moving Leopards into an open field without any cover, where they were destroyed by our fighters.
The slow-moving Leopards were supposed to cover the advance of the landing column, which was heading to storm the specified position.
As a result, they themselves were destroyed, as well as several armored vehicles. According to official estimates of our Ministry of Defense, the enemy lost up to 60 people in this battle.
If we talk about the general situation in the Kupyansk direction, then it is very bad for the enemy.
In the last two or three weeks, our famous 2nd Motorized Rifle Division of the First Tank Army, the famous Taman Division, has moved up to the first line.
Moreover, this was not done secretly, but in an openly demonstrative manner. And this is very annoying for dill.
The fact is that this elite division is designed for offensive operations and is armed with a powerful tank fist from the latest T-90.
Considering the action unfolding in the neighboring Krasno-Limansky direction, where ours have been continuously and very strongly pressing the Ukrainian positions for the second week, inexorably grinding down the most important position area for the Ukrainians, this creates a very unpleasant situation for the Ukrainian Armed Forces – they are forced to keep very large reserves near Kupyansk, which are like air to them needed in other sectors of the front.
Actually, this is precisely why the Ukrainians are trying to counterattack here, in order to dislodge our forces from their original positions where we prepared to attack.
These are attempts to delay the inevitable here – to prevent our troops from going on the offensive again.
This situation, by the way, is very typical for the entire front line – due to constant pressure and threats on most of the front line, the Ukrainians are in a desperate situation with reserves.
This, for example, has already begun to directly affect the course of hostilities.
Near Avdeevka, our troops have been moving forward in all directions for the fifth day – tonight my First Slavic Brigade took the next enemy strongholds, capturing a very important positional area.
And the day before (the battle lasted for three days), Slavyanka took and cleared one of the most vile positions in her area called Quarry. And today she not only held it, but also took the next milestone, moving forward. I will give the details of these battles in the form of an essay a little later.
On the other side of Avdeevka, in the area of the Coke and Chemical Plant, ours also took several enemy positions, advancing close to the perimeter of the plant.
And the Ukrainians cannot counter anything to this yet – the Bakhmut scenario, when the crests instantly responded to our every advance with a flurry of continuous counterattacks, does not work here.
Today they can no longer afford this: in order to organize massive counterattacks, they need time to pull up reserves from somewhere. Those who were transferred here last week are obviously not enough. But there are simply no reserves. This is actually why the Ukrainian Armed Forces are launching regular suicidal attacks near Kherson, in order to somehow distract our troops from the pressure in the North.
But these attempts look frankly pathetic. Just like the efforts of ukropaganda to create horror in the information field, recently more and more anonymous supposedly soldiers from the front line have appeared who talk about huge losses, for example, near Avdiivka.
This means only one thing – the Ukrainians are no longer in a good place, since their propaganda has begun to take such steps. There is nothing else to cling to – the creativity is over. Just like the dill themselves.
Well, thank God, we will continue in the same spirit.

Posted by: maratpost | Nov 1 2023 6:28 utc | 399

What’s near Kupyansk?
Tamans have the enemy by the throat
Front-line report 10/31/2023 from journalist Marat Khairullin
At first glance, it seems that there is a lull in the Kupyansky direction. Using which the Ukrainians are trying to counterattack. But in reality the situation is much more interesting.
Yesterday the enemy tried to attack southwest of Sinkovka, losing 4 tanks – two of which were Leopards. The meaning of this attack for the Ukrainian Armed Forces was an attempt to dislodge our troops from a previously occupied position, which is very convenient for an assault on the key village of Petropavlovskoye in the Kupyansk direction. Which, in fact, opens the road to Kupyansk.
It should be noted here that the Ukrainian Armed Forces are increasingly experiencing a shortage of armored vehicles. Only this can explain that the Ukrainian Armed Forces drove the slow-moving Leopards into an open field without any cover, where they were destroyed by our fighters.
The slow-moving Leopards were supposed to cover the advance of the landing column, which was heading to storm the specified position.
As a result, they themselves were destroyed, as well as several armored vehicles. According to official estimates of our Ministry of Defense, the enemy lost up to 60 people in this battle.
If we talk about the general situation in the Kupyansk direction, then it is very bad for the enemy.
In the last two or three weeks, our famous 2nd Motorized Rifle Division of the First Tank Army, the famous Taman Division, has moved up to the first line.
Moreover, this was not done secretly, but in an openly demonstrative manner. And this is very annoying for dill.
The fact is that this elite division is designed for offensive operations and is armed with a powerful tank fist from the latest T-90.
Considering the action unfolding in the neighboring Krasno-Limansky direction, where ours have been continuously and very strongly pressing the Ukrainian positions for the second week, inexorably grinding down the most important position area for the Ukrainians, this creates a very unpleasant situation for the Ukrainian Armed Forces – they are forced to keep very large reserves near Kupyansk, which are like air to them needed in other sectors of the front.
Actually, this is precisely why the Ukrainians are trying to counterattack here, in order to dislodge our forces from their original positions where we prepared to attack.
These are attempts to delay the inevitable here – to prevent our troops from going on the offensive again.
This situation, by the way, is very typical for the entire front line – due to constant pressure and threats on most of the front line, the Ukrainians are in a desperate situation with reserves.
This, for example, has already begun to directly affect the course of hostilities.
Near Avdeevka, our troops have been moving forward in all directions for the fifth day – tonight my First Slavic Brigade took the next enemy strongholds, capturing a very important positional area.
And the day before (the battle lasted for three days), Slavyanka took and cleared one of the most vile positions in her area called Quarry. And today she not only held it, but also took the next milestone, moving forward. I will give the details of these battles in the form of an essay a little later.
On the other side of Avdeevka, in the area of the Coke and Chemical Plant, ours also took several enemy positions, advancing close to the perimeter of the plant.
And the Ukrainians cannot counter anything to this yet – the Bakhmut scenario, when the crests instantly responded to our every advance with a flurry of continuous counterattacks, does not work here.
Today they can no longer afford this: in order to organize massive counterattacks, they need time to pull up reserves from somewhere. Those who were transferred here last week are obviously not enough. But there are simply no reserves. This is actually why the Ukrainian Armed Forces are launching regular suicidal attacks near Kherson, in order to somehow distract our troops from the pressure in the North.
But these attempts look frankly pathetic. Just like the efforts of ukropaganda to create horror in the information field, recently more and more anonymous supposedly soldiers from the front line have appeared who talk about huge losses, for example, near Avdiivka.
This means only one thing – the Ukrainians are no longer in a good place, since their propaganda has begun to take such steps. There is nothing else to cling to – the creativity is over. Just like the dill themselves.
Well, thank God, we will continue in the same spirit.

Posted by: maratpost | Nov 1 2023 6:28 utc | 400