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October 31, 2023
The War Is Lost – Zelenski Will Leave – The White House Has Failed

What a difference a year makes …


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Time's big new story is quite revealing:

‘Nobody Believes in Our Victory Like I Do.’ Inside Volodymyr Zelensky’s Struggle to Keep Ukraine in the FightTime – Oct. 30, 2023

That offensive has proceeded at an excruciating pace and with enormous losses, making it ever more difficult for Zelensky to convince partners that victory is around the corner. With the outbreak of war in Israel, even keeping the world’s attention on Ukraine has become a major challenge.

 Quoting a soldier on the front of the counter-offensive, the Economist agrees:

"Left Handed", an infantryman fighting at the front between Robotyne and Verbove, says Ukrainian losses have increased to alarming levels, in part due to the work of drones. The plains of Zaporizhia have turned their back on life, he says. “It’s hellish. Corpses, the smell of corpses, death, blood and fear. Not a whiff of life, just the stench of death.” Those in units such as his own had more chance of dying than surviving. “Seventy-thirty. Some don’t even see their first battle.”

Still, Zelenski is urging them on:

But his convictions haven’t changed. Despite the recent setbacks on the battlefield, he does not intend to give up fighting or to sue for any kind of peace.

On the contrary, his belief in Ukraine’s ultimate victory over Russia has hardened into a form that worries some of his advisers. It is immovable, verging on the messianic. “He deludes himself,” one of his closest aides tells me in frustration. “We’re out of options. We’re not winning. But try telling him that.”

Zelensky’s stubbornness, some of his aides say, has hurt their team’s efforts to come up with a new strategy, a new message. As they have debated the future of the war, one issue has remained taboo: the possibility of negotiating a peace deal with the Russians. Judging by recent surveys, most Ukrainians would reject such a move, especially if it entailed the loss of any occupied territory.

The war is lost. They know it. But they are unwilling to give up.

Zelenski's people put the blame everywhere but on the those who have caused the mess. It was the 'victory' messaging by Zelenski and his crew that has led the public into utter complacency.

As Strana headlines (machine translation):

Ukraine is losing the war with the Russian Federation due to the inadequate perception of the situation by society — commander of the Armed Forces of UkraineStrana.news – Oct. 30, 2023

Strategically, Ukraine is losing the war because of the inadequate perception of the situation by society.

This opinion was expressed by the commander of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Dmitry Kukharchuk in an interview with Channel Five.

He claims that at the beginning of the war, all Ukrainians were ready to defend the country, there were many volunteers. But after the withdrawal of Russian troops from Kiev, the situation changed.

"Immediately after that, I noticed that there were theses in the media that we are fighting with homeless people, that the Russian army does not know how to fight, that in principle victory will be in a week or two, a maximum of a month. That first in the spring, then in the summer, then in the autumn, then in the winter, without specifying which winter, we will go to the Crimea. That the victory is basically victorious. So people were put in a warm bathroom. We have broken down the vision of reality. But it didn't happen in Russia. They began to realize that the war was not going to be easy for them. They realized that they would have to fight for a long time, " Kukharchuk believes.

He also says that the Russians are "getting stronger" every day, and if Ukraine really fought the "degenerates", it would have defeated them long ago.

"That's why we're losing. They have these processes going on, and their public readiness is much higher than that of our society. And when they talk about a nuclear bomb, a war of all against all, for some reason it seems to me that they are ready for these processes, " the battalion commander added.

Napoleon, Hitler and several other folks who had sought war with Russia, had to learn to never underestimate the depth of its resources. Now NATO, the U.S. and its European proxies, are learning that lesson.

Zelenski still hasn't. He won't concede:

The cold will also make military advances more difficult, locking down the front lines at least until the spring. But Zelensky has refused to accept that. “Freezing the war, to me, means losing it,” he says. Before the winter sets in, his aides warned me to expect major changes in their military strategy and a major shake-up in the President’s team. At least one minister would need to be fired, along with a senior general in charge of the counteroffensive, they said, to ensure accountability for Ukraine’s slow progress at the front. “We’re not moving forward,” says one of Zelensky’s close aides. Some front-line commanders, he continues, have begun refusing orders to advance, even when they came directly from the office of the President. “They just want to sit in the trenches and hold the line,” he says. “But we can’t win a war that way.”

When I raised these claims with a senior military officer, he said that some commanders have little choice in second-guessing orders from the top. At one point in early October, he said, the political leadership in Kyiv demanded an operation to “retake” the city of Horlivka, a strategic outpost in eastern Ukraine that the Russians have held and fiercely defended for nearly a decade. The answer came back in the form of a question: With what? “They don’t have the men or the weapons,” says the officer. “Where are the weapons? Where is the artillery? Where are the new recruits?”

In some branches of the military, the shortage of personnel has become even more dire than the deficit in arms and ammunition. One of Zelensky’s close aides tells me that even if the U.S. and its allies come through with all the weapons they have pledged, “we don’t have the men to use them.”

Since the start of the invasion, Ukraine has refused to release official counts of dead and wounded. But according to U.S. and European estimates, the toll has long surpassed 100,000 on each side of the war. It has eroded the ranks of Ukraine’s armed forces so badly that draft offices have been forced to call up ever older personnel, raising the average age of a soldier in Ukraine to around 43 years. “They’re grown men now, and they aren’t that healthy to begin with,” says the close aide to Zelensky. “This is Ukraine. Not Scandinavia.”

The Ukraine's old problems, foremost corruption, persist:

Amid all the pressure to root out corruption, I assumed, perhaps naively, that officials in Ukraine would think twice before taking a bribe or pocketing state funds. But when I made this point to a top presidential adviser in early October, he asked me to turn off my audio recorder so he could speak more freely. “Simon, you’re mistaken,” he says. “People are stealing like there’s no tomorrow.”

Knowing that the ship is sinking, this its probably what I would do too. Bring anything available onto my personal life raft and prepare for cutting its lines to the mother ship.

The Time piece is a signal. It announces the end of Zelenski's regime. I am sure that the National Security Council, as well as the State Department, is feverishly looking for an alternative – and for a face saving way to install it.

Someone seems to protect and promote Alexey Arestovich for exactly that purpose (machine translation):

After leaving the Presidential Office with a scandal in January 2023, Arestovich, although he began to criticize the actions of the authorities, nevertheless did it carefully until recently.

But right now, he's just slamming the ruling team.

Arestovich focuses on two things: the military decisions of the country's leadership and its domestic policy.

The second version: Arestovich enlisted the support of Americans who want to see more political diversity in Ukraine and are not interested in Zelensky's monopolization of power.

In favor of this version, they also use the fact mentioned above that the tightening of the rhetoric of the ex-adviser to the president's Office began after his trip to the United States. Also in this regard, they recall his interview with Gordon in early October, where he says that if the West decides to end the war without reaching the borders of 1991 and Zelensky resists this, then the president of Ukraine will be "changed" in the elections.

"It is possible that Arestovich is supported by a certain part of the Western elites, who care about the breadth of opinions in Ukraine. They say that the country can speak not only with Zelensky's voice, but there are also different critical opinions, " political analyst Ruslan Bortnik comments to Strana.

In its grand strategy the White House had sought to pivot to Asia. But the U.S. is – first in Ukraine, in a completely unnecessary conflict the U.S. itself has caused, and, with Gaza in flames, again in the Middle East.

In a recent talk in Australia John Mearsheimer takes a deep dive into this dilemma (video). He doesn't foresee a good outcome.

Comments

karlof1 | Oct 31 2023 12:44 utc | 47
Not sure if you have kicked of a bio-weapons substack but Oct 31 briefing available. Have linked it at my vk and tried to here but the comment with the link has not appeared.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 31 2023 15:54 utc | 201

karlof1 | Oct 31 2023 12:44 utc | 47
Not sure if you have kicked of a bio-weapons substack but Oct 31 briefing available. Have linked it at my vk and tried to here but the comment with the link has not appeared.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 31 2023 15:54 utc | 202

We’re trapped, and as long as the U.S. is trapped, the world is trapped, because the U.S. for all its hideous foibles is the center of the revolution of thought, however insane it may be.
Russia and China have no answers: they are merely counterpoints to our wretched state.
Exhausting.
Posted by: Arrnon | Oct 31 2023 13:03 utc | 56
You’re exhausted because you’re wrong.
US imperialism is not the center of “the revolution of thought” whatever that may mean. And China/Russia seem to have a number of intiatives in place to deal with the catastrophic imperialist decline.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 31 2023 15:55 utc | 203

We’re trapped, and as long as the U.S. is trapped, the world is trapped, because the U.S. for all its hideous foibles is the center of the revolution of thought, however insane it may be.
Russia and China have no answers: they are merely counterpoints to our wretched state.
Exhausting.
Posted by: Arrnon | Oct 31 2023 13:03 utc | 56
You’re exhausted because you’re wrong.
US imperialism is not the center of “the revolution of thought” whatever that may mean. And China/Russia seem to have a number of intiatives in place to deal with the catastrophic imperialist decline.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 31 2023 15:55 utc | 204

Re: Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Oct 31 2023 15:09 utc | 86
It’s easy to forget that John Mearsheimer & Stepen Walt published a damning condemnation of the Israel Lobby and its influence on American politics right under their effing noses. And there was NOTHING The Lobby could do to discredit it. You don’t get away with a coup like that by being careless or thoughtless.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Oct 31 2023 15:56 utc | 205

Re: Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Oct 31 2023 15:09 utc | 86
It’s easy to forget that John Mearsheimer & Stepen Walt published a damning condemnation of the Israel Lobby and its influence on American politics right under their effing noses. And there was NOTHING The Lobby could do to discredit it. You don’t get away with a coup like that by being careless or thoughtless.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Oct 31 2023 15:56 utc | 206

According to the Oct 31 bio briefing by Russia MoD, there was a bio meeting in Ukraine that included SBU and other Ukraine agencies. Russia MoD is looking at the possibility of bio false flags in Ukraine in the not too distant future

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 31 2023 16:02 utc | 207

According to the Oct 31 bio briefing by Russia MoD, there was a bio meeting in Ukraine that included SBU and other Ukraine agencies. Russia MoD is looking at the possibility of bio false flags in Ukraine in the not too distant future

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 31 2023 16:02 utc | 208

John Mearsheimer is an idiot. A populist, so-called great whatever…
peer competitor b.s.
Posted by: Kim Sky | Oct 31 2023 14:57 utc | 85
Definitely not an idiot and he’s sane to boot, which makes him agreement capable and something of a unicorn in the bowels of the empire.
The problem with old John and the thrust of his talk in Australia is his insistence on war with China. He’s sees Ukraine, etc as distractions from the big one with China.
From an imperialist perspective he’s probably right, but for those of us who desire imperialism’s collapse and seek peace with China and every other non belligerent country of our world, he’s just a reliable source of information on imperialism’s fatal blunders.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 31 2023 16:02 utc | 209

John Mearsheimer is an idiot. A populist, so-called great whatever…
peer competitor b.s.
Posted by: Kim Sky | Oct 31 2023 14:57 utc | 85
Definitely not an idiot and he’s sane to boot, which makes him agreement capable and something of a unicorn in the bowels of the empire.
The problem with old John and the thrust of his talk in Australia is his insistence on war with China. He’s sees Ukraine, etc as distractions from the big one with China.
From an imperialist perspective he’s probably right, but for those of us who desire imperialism’s collapse and seek peace with China and every other non belligerent country of our world, he’s just a reliable source of information on imperialism’s fatal blunders.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 31 2023 16:02 utc | 210

Lavrov’s Dog | Oct 31 2023 13:49 utc | 68
karl is right: the Ukrainian people are to be pitied. They have been subjected to a series of manipulations, lies, propaganda, promises of prosperity and revisions of history since independence in 1991.
The amount of energy and resources, including massive bribes and other corrupt expenditures, that the CIA and its companion institutions have poured into the country with the sole object of breaking its ancient ties with Russian civilisation is unprecedented.
Russia cannot be blamed-throughout the same period it was fighting for its life against the same diabolical forces of imperialism that it had defied since 1918.
Ukraine ought to be an object lesson to the world and to the rest of Europe in particular:
“You are disposable, individually, severally and as a nation. We don’t care about you (we don’t care about our own countrymen like you either). There are plenty more countries where you came from-Taiwan? Armenia? Finland? Israel? Now we will just switch over to one of them until we’ve burned them up. Have a good recuperation-you ought to have recovered in a century or so. Think of it as your 30 Years War.

Posted by: bevin | Oct 31 2023 16:05 utc | 211

Lavrov’s Dog | Oct 31 2023 13:49 utc | 68
karl is right: the Ukrainian people are to be pitied. They have been subjected to a series of manipulations, lies, propaganda, promises of prosperity and revisions of history since independence in 1991.
The amount of energy and resources, including massive bribes and other corrupt expenditures, that the CIA and its companion institutions have poured into the country with the sole object of breaking its ancient ties with Russian civilisation is unprecedented.
Russia cannot be blamed-throughout the same period it was fighting for its life against the same diabolical forces of imperialism that it had defied since 1918.
Ukraine ought to be an object lesson to the world and to the rest of Europe in particular:
“You are disposable, individually, severally and as a nation. We don’t care about you (we don’t care about our own countrymen like you either). There are plenty more countries where you came from-Taiwan? Armenia? Finland? Israel? Now we will just switch over to one of them until we’ve burned them up. Have a good recuperation-you ought to have recovered in a century or so. Think of it as your 30 Years War.

Posted by: bevin | Oct 31 2023 16:05 utc | 212

@Posted by: Feral Finster | Oct 31 2023 15:52 utc | 102
Hmm… I just came across these words:

“To those who cling to power through corruption and deceit and the silencing of dissent, know that you are on the wrong side of history …”

Who said it?
Warning: Delicious Irony
In his first inaugural address
he kept his forked tongue
tightly rolled up and hidden.
Quote was from the first inaugural address
of Mr Hope and Change
Here is a mag cover
improved just in time for his address.
https://flic.kr/p/5UN9e5

Posted by: librul | Oct 31 2023 16:07 utc | 213

@Posted by: Feral Finster | Oct 31 2023 15:52 utc | 102
Hmm… I just came across these words:

“To those who cling to power through corruption and deceit and the silencing of dissent, know that you are on the wrong side of history …”

Who said it?
Warning: Delicious Irony
In his first inaugural address
he kept his forked tongue
tightly rolled up and hidden.
Quote was from the first inaugural address
of Mr Hope and Change
Here is a mag cover
improved just in time for his address.
https://flic.kr/p/5UN9e5

Posted by: librul | Oct 31 2023 16:07 utc | 214

The Ukraine war is the Biden family scam burial so it will go on till Joe is president no more. Dementia will take its toll soon enough plus the US MIC had its fill or income.
A bigger fish to fry.

Posted by: Antonym | Oct 31 2023 16:12 utc | 215

The Ukraine war is the Biden family scam burial so it will go on till Joe is president no more. Dementia will take its toll soon enough plus the US MIC had its fill or income.
A bigger fish to fry.

Posted by: Antonym | Oct 31 2023 16:12 utc | 216

Speaker of Ukraine’s border agency Andrei Demchenko said 2100 Ukrainian public officials have tried to illegally flee the country this year.

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 31 2023 16:12 utc | 217

Speaker of Ukraine’s border agency Andrei Demchenko said 2100 Ukrainian public officials have tried to illegally flee the country this year.

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 31 2023 16:12 utc | 218

Posted by: Arrnon | Oct 31 2023 13:03 utc | 56
A lot to agree with, but I disagree with the last bits. I think China has given a partial answer: Go figure it out for yourself. That is, no one can prescribe a political solution, and any real solution must be reached through hard work and effort by the native administration. You may not find this satisfactory, but following it prescribes a lot of steps, such as rooting out corruption, promoting processes to discover political solutions, and being open to alternatives.
The US provides a messianic vision of liberal democracy and Western values. I find that people who once believed in it are still looking for replacement creeds to follow. This is probably more of an emotional need.

Posted by: Run | Oct 31 2023 16:12 utc | 219

Posted by: Arrnon | Oct 31 2023 13:03 utc | 56
A lot to agree with, but I disagree with the last bits. I think China has given a partial answer: Go figure it out for yourself. That is, no one can prescribe a political solution, and any real solution must be reached through hard work and effort by the native administration. You may not find this satisfactory, but following it prescribes a lot of steps, such as rooting out corruption, promoting processes to discover political solutions, and being open to alternatives.
The US provides a messianic vision of liberal democracy and Western values. I find that people who once believed in it are still looking for replacement creeds to follow. This is probably more of an emotional need.

Posted by: Run | Oct 31 2023 16:12 utc | 220

bevin | Oct 31 2023 16:05 utc | 108
I see that here in Australia. While the eyes of the peasants are fixed on the threat of evil China, the US is looting Australia. Al major Australian companies owned by American corporations so proffits flow back to America. Defence spending increased and now flowing to America. A short article in Australian ABC a couple of months back. Defence spending has moved from defending our shores with mainly Australian manufactured equipment to fighting a war on China’s border and for that we apparently require American military equipment. As well as paying for a US/UK sub base, we will also be purchasing missiles and so forth from the US.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 31 2023 16:13 utc | 221

bevin | Oct 31 2023 16:05 utc | 108
I see that here in Australia. While the eyes of the peasants are fixed on the threat of evil China, the US is looting Australia. Al major Australian companies owned by American corporations so proffits flow back to America. Defence spending increased and now flowing to America. A short article in Australian ABC a couple of months back. Defence spending has moved from defending our shores with mainly Australian manufactured equipment to fighting a war on China’s border and for that we apparently require American military equipment. As well as paying for a US/UK sub base, we will also be purchasing missiles and so forth from the US.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 31 2023 16:13 utc | 222

Hundreds of comments over on the Occupied Palestine sites, but no one talks about Occupied Syria?
Do people not know, or do they forget, that the US is occupying 30% of Syria, killing their people, and stealing their oil and wheat?
Find out who you are not allowed to criticize, I guess, (or put sanctions on, or pass UN resolutions against, or march in demos against, etc.)

Posted by: wagelaborer | Oct 31 2023 16:15 utc | 223

Hundreds of comments over on the Occupied Palestine sites, but no one talks about Occupied Syria?
Do people not know, or do they forget, that the US is occupying 30% of Syria, killing their people, and stealing their oil and wheat?
Find out who you are not allowed to criticize, I guess, (or put sanctions on, or pass UN resolutions against, or march in demos against, etc.)

Posted by: wagelaborer | Oct 31 2023 16:15 utc | 224

Sure, Ukraine has lost the war and half a million soldiers have died, but so what?
Rich weapons manufacturers and investors are richer… and that’s what REALLY matters.
As usual.

Posted by: Mark Mosby | Oct 31 2023 16:16 utc | 225

Sure, Ukraine has lost the war and half a million soldiers have died, but so what?
Rich weapons manufacturers and investors are richer… and that’s what REALLY matters.
As usual.

Posted by: Mark Mosby | Oct 31 2023 16:16 utc | 226

Alexey Arestovich can sign the capitulation to Russia the same as Zelensky, it would matter not at all to them.
but sign he must.
if it weren’t for the vicious, vacuous and imperialist USA and the UK, Ukraine could probably have had a some peace and a much better chance starting way back in Mar-Apr 2022 at the Istanbul peace talks. but all that was torpedoed by Boris Johnson’s visit to Kiev, and the rest has been a slaughter of Ukrainian men and boys, and misery for millions of Ukr refugees

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 31 2023 16:17 utc | 227

Alexey Arestovich can sign the capitulation to Russia the same as Zelensky, it would matter not at all to them.
but sign he must.
if it weren’t for the vicious, vacuous and imperialist USA and the UK, Ukraine could probably have had a some peace and a much better chance starting way back in Mar-Apr 2022 at the Istanbul peace talks. but all that was torpedoed by Boris Johnson’s visit to Kiev, and the rest has been a slaughter of Ukrainian men and boys, and misery for millions of Ukr refugees

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 31 2023 16:17 utc | 228

Looks like China just gained some breathing room. After giving the zionists all they’re demanding, the US will have zero military capacity. That’s not a bad thing either.

Posted by: Janet | Oct 31 2023 16:21 utc | 229

Looks like China just gained some breathing room. After giving the zionists all they’re demanding, the US will have zero military capacity. That’s not a bad thing either.

Posted by: Janet | Oct 31 2023 16:21 utc | 230

Even in a supposedly “blind” survey, there’s nothing to be gained and potentially much to be lost in telling the truth.
Posted by: Feral Finster | Oct 31 2023 15:52 utc | 102
Yes, always lie if you take a poll. I mostly just don’t take polls. Why help them in any way?

Posted by: Bemildred | Oct 31 2023 16:25 utc | 231

Even in a supposedly “blind” survey, there’s nothing to be gained and potentially much to be lost in telling the truth.
Posted by: Feral Finster | Oct 31 2023 15:52 utc | 102
Yes, always lie if you take a poll. I mostly just don’t take polls. Why help them in any way?

Posted by: Bemildred | Oct 31 2023 16:25 utc | 232

Indeed, b, the one year Z-narrative morph is significant, and the monies spent were also stupendous.
Got a question, why the TIME cover on the right-hand side is dated Nov 20, 2023? Is this practice kosher?

Posted by: KitaySupporter | Oct 31 2023 16:26 utc | 233

Indeed, b, the one year Z-narrative morph is significant, and the monies spent were also stupendous.
Got a question, why the TIME cover on the right-hand side is dated Nov 20, 2023? Is this practice kosher?

Posted by: KitaySupporter | Oct 31 2023 16:26 utc | 234

EU Commission is demanding an €66 billion from member states for Ukraine. Germany, France and Hungary are resisting.
https://twitter.com/AndersonAfDMdEP/status/1719376934076125334

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 31 2023 16:27 utc | 235

EU Commission is demanding an €66 billion from member states for Ukraine. Germany, France and Hungary are resisting.
https://twitter.com/AndersonAfDMdEP/status/1719376934076125334

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 31 2023 16:27 utc | 236

reply to 98
Functionally, 88 is right. I read the MOD list everyday and the bodies just keep piling up. Whatever their collective mindset is, it allows for unlimited deaths on the battlefield. They whine and complain and go to die anyway.

Posted by: Eighthman | Oct 31 2023 16:36 utc | 237

reply to 98
Functionally, 88 is right. I read the MOD list everyday and the bodies just keep piling up. Whatever their collective mindset is, it allows for unlimited deaths on the battlefield. They whine and complain and go to die anyway.

Posted by: Eighthman | Oct 31 2023 16:36 utc | 238

wagelaborer | Oct 31 2023 16:15 utc | 114
Syria has been in the state of near frozen conflict for some time. Like all others. it cannot be resolved until the US empire has been defeated. The main theater of battle moved from Syria, to Ukraine, now to Palestine. Syria’s plight since Russia defeated the CIA headchoppers has remained the same, little change.
Greatest change occurs at whatever happens to be the main theater of the Anglo war on the world.
Ukraine is now little more than a mopping up operation unless the US refocuses there.
Possibility of cheap to run false flags in Ukraine remain but that is about it. Britain alone cannot fund and supply equipment to keep that war going. LGBT Europe even less so.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 31 2023 16:41 utc | 239

wagelaborer | Oct 31 2023 16:15 utc | 114
Syria has been in the state of near frozen conflict for some time. Like all others. it cannot be resolved until the US empire has been defeated. The main theater of battle moved from Syria, to Ukraine, now to Palestine. Syria’s plight since Russia defeated the CIA headchoppers has remained the same, little change.
Greatest change occurs at whatever happens to be the main theater of the Anglo war on the world.
Ukraine is now little more than a mopping up operation unless the US refocuses there.
Possibility of cheap to run false flags in Ukraine remain but that is about it. Britain alone cannot fund and supply equipment to keep that war going. LGBT Europe even less so.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 31 2023 16:41 utc | 240

How did this work for Saakashvili or Ghani?
Posted by: Feral Finster | Oct 31 2023 15:37 utc | 97
Zelensky’s main value to the Brits and Americans is the the propaganda value of his death. If its a slow lingering Putin exotic poison it will be the British. If it is a bayonet in the behind or similar violent ending, it is the Americans or local Nazi’s.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 31 2023 16:48 utc | 241

How did this work for Saakashvili or Ghani?
Posted by: Feral Finster | Oct 31 2023 15:37 utc | 97
Zelensky’s main value to the Brits and Americans is the the propaganda value of his death. If its a slow lingering Putin exotic poison it will be the British. If it is a bayonet in the behind or similar violent ending, it is the Americans or local Nazi’s.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 31 2023 16:48 utc | 242

Never pass up a chance to negotiate, Zelensky!

Posted by: lester | Oct 31 2023 16:49 utc | 243

Never pass up a chance to negotiate, Zelensky!

Posted by: lester | Oct 31 2023 16:49 utc | 244

@ Bemildred 118
All the polls I’ve seen in the last 20 years never say who they are doing the polling for. So I blow them off.
The want info from me and they won’t give info to me. That’s totally one-sided. Most of the time, it’s the 0.1% trying to fine-tune their lies.

Posted by: JessDTruth | Oct 31 2023 16:51 utc | 245

@ Bemildred 118
All the polls I’ve seen in the last 20 years never say who they are doing the polling for. So I blow them off.
The want info from me and they won’t give info to me. That’s totally one-sided. Most of the time, it’s the 0.1% trying to fine-tune their lies.

Posted by: JessDTruth | Oct 31 2023 16:51 utc | 246

Northern Observer 58
” how many foreign policy farces do we have to see before America matures?”
Carrying weapons on your person is kinda neolithic or early bronze age.
You never really know when that Bear is going to attack you mentality.
Another 3000 years?

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 31 2023 16:56 utc | 247

Northern Observer 58
” how many foreign policy farces do we have to see before America matures?”
Carrying weapons on your person is kinda neolithic or early bronze age.
You never really know when that Bear is going to attack you mentality.
Another 3000 years?

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 31 2023 16:56 utc | 248

‘Nobody Believes in Our Victory Like I Do, Nobody’
Sounds like the last announcements from the Führerbunker.

Posted by: Oliver Krug | Oct 31 2023 17:11 utc | 249

‘Nobody Believes in Our Victory Like I Do, Nobody’
Sounds like the last announcements from the Führerbunker.

Posted by: Oliver Krug | Oct 31 2023 17:11 utc | 250

Posted by: Comandante @35
I hear Juan Guaido is available !
Now that is funny, thanks for the laugh.

Posted by: Pyewacket | Oct 31 2023 17:18 utc | 251

Posted by: Comandante @35
I hear Juan Guaido is available !
Now that is funny, thanks for the laugh.

Posted by: Pyewacket | Oct 31 2023 17:18 utc | 252

Posted by: JessDTruth | Oct 31 2023 16:51 utc | 125
Well for sure they are not your friends.
Understanding that is just a part of growing up.

Posted by: Bemildred | Oct 31 2023 17:20 utc | 253

Posted by: JessDTruth | Oct 31 2023 16:51 utc | 125
Well for sure they are not your friends.
Understanding that is just a part of growing up.

Posted by: Bemildred | Oct 31 2023 17:20 utc | 254

Judging by recent surveys, most Ukrainians would reject such a move, especially if it entailed the loss of any occupied territory.

That’s totally weird. At list half the Ukrainians voted for Yanukovitch. Why losing the East would be such deal for a western Ukrainian? I talked to a Western Ukrainian woman of middle age before SMO. She was anti Russian, but said let them take the eastern territories and leave us alone. Has the 8 years of Bandera propaganda brainwashed so many people?

Posted by: RB | Oct 31 2023 17:21 utc | 255

Judging by recent surveys, most Ukrainians would reject such a move, especially if it entailed the loss of any occupied territory.

That’s totally weird. At list half the Ukrainians voted for Yanukovitch. Why losing the East would be such deal for a western Ukrainian? I talked to a Western Ukrainian woman of middle age before SMO. She was anti Russian, but said let them take the eastern territories and leave us alone. Has the 8 years of Bandera propaganda brainwashed so many people?

Posted by: RB | Oct 31 2023 17:21 utc | 256

Thank you B(?) for the link to the Meirsheimer vid.

Posted by: rgl | Oct 31 2023 17:25 utc | 257

Thank you B(?) for the link to the Meirsheimer vid.

Posted by: rgl | Oct 31 2023 17:25 utc | 258

Obscure personality Zelenski, who destroys an entire nation that almost doesn’t exist anymore. Huge amounts of money are at stake and that whole political and military gang is getting fabulously rich. In Ukraine, teenage women and severely disabled people are left, there is no one to stop this suicide.

Posted by: zina | Oct 31 2023 17:26 utc | 259

Obscure personality Zelenski, who destroys an entire nation that almost doesn’t exist anymore. Huge amounts of money are at stake and that whole political and military gang is getting fabulously rich. In Ukraine, teenage women and severely disabled people are left, there is no one to stop this suicide.

Posted by: zina | Oct 31 2023 17:26 utc | 260

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFmdQjNUE60
OK, a few want to save their lives. But if onley a few, then the mass deaths continue unabated.

Posted by: Eighthman | Oct 31 2023 17:27 utc | 261

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFmdQjNUE60
OK, a few want to save their lives. But if onley a few, then the mass deaths continue unabated.

Posted by: Eighthman | Oct 31 2023 17:27 utc | 262

Even lackey Mearshimer can’t address China as anything other than a “threat” which must be “contained.” Fucking pathetic.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 31 2023 17:29 utc | 263

Even lackey Mearshimer can’t address China as anything other than a “threat” which must be “contained.” Fucking pathetic.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 31 2023 17:29 utc | 264

“Zelenski’s people put the blame everywhere but on the those who have caused the mess. It was the ‘victory’ messaging by Zelenski and his crew”
No, I think the blame is with Biden, Blinken, Sullivan, Nuland, and helpers, who at every turn pushed Ukraine into this and stopped Zelinsky from carrying forward his campaign promises and peace deals already initialed.
I suspect that in the years after this disaster, some among the Ukrainians so badly used will do as the French did who felt betrayed in Algeria. They’ll come for those they blame, and they’ll put a lot of the blame on those Americans.

Posted by: Mark Thomason | Oct 31 2023 17:33 utc | 265

“Zelenski’s people put the blame everywhere but on the those who have caused the mess. It was the ‘victory’ messaging by Zelenski and his crew”
No, I think the blame is with Biden, Blinken, Sullivan, Nuland, and helpers, who at every turn pushed Ukraine into this and stopped Zelinsky from carrying forward his campaign promises and peace deals already initialed.
I suspect that in the years after this disaster, some among the Ukrainians so badly used will do as the French did who felt betrayed in Algeria. They’ll come for those they blame, and they’ll put a lot of the blame on those Americans.

Posted by: Mark Thomason | Oct 31 2023 17:33 utc | 266

What a difference a year makes …
Posted by b on October 31, 2023 at 8:12 UTC

Next year in Jerusalem
Posted by: too scents | Oct 31 2023 8:59 utc | 11
That’s amusing.
What a mitzvah it would be if the Zionazis we’re in Zelinsky’s position next year!

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 31 2023 17:41 utc | 267

What a difference a year makes …
Posted by b on October 31, 2023 at 8:12 UTC

Next year in Jerusalem
Posted by: too scents | Oct 31 2023 8:59 utc | 11
That’s amusing.
What a mitzvah it would be if the Zionazis we’re in Zelinsky’s position next year!

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 31 2023 17:41 utc | 268

Mearshimer also kind of gets it wrong with the Ali Frazier comparo. Russia is more like Ali with Mike Tyson sitting on the bench ready to alternate rounds.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 31 2023 17:42 utc | 269

Mearshimer also kind of gets it wrong with the Ali Frazier comparo. Russia is more like Ali with Mike Tyson sitting on the bench ready to alternate rounds.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 31 2023 17:42 utc | 270

In 1973, legendary Israeli diplomat Abba Eban famously quipped: “The Arabs never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.” In 2023 – half a century later – it is Ukraine.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Oct 31 2023 17:44 utc | 271

In 1973, legendary Israeli diplomat Abba Eban famously quipped: “The Arabs never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.” In 2023 – half a century later – it is Ukraine.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Oct 31 2023 17:44 utc | 272

Just listened to the Mearsheimer lecture. He’s right about the number fatal mistakes America made, but what a psychopath. America should have teamed up with Russia to “get” China? Never mind all the destruction and lives lost. And for what? To remain #1? He shouldn’t be surprised at what comes America’s way.
Posted by: RobertNW | Oct 31 2023 15:14 utc | 87
That’s what’s wrong with colonel Macgregor. Why he is crying like a little baby. His wet dream is for Russia and the US to team up and kill those godless commies in China.

Posted by: Echo Chamber | Oct 31 2023 17:52 utc | 273

Just listened to the Mearsheimer lecture. He’s right about the number fatal mistakes America made, but what a psychopath. America should have teamed up with Russia to “get” China? Never mind all the destruction and lives lost. And for what? To remain #1? He shouldn’t be surprised at what comes America’s way.
Posted by: RobertNW | Oct 31 2023 15:14 utc | 87
That’s what’s wrong with colonel Macgregor. Why he is crying like a little baby. His wet dream is for Russia and the US to team up and kill those godless commies in China.

Posted by: Echo Chamber | Oct 31 2023 17:52 utc | 274

Posted by: Arrnon | Oct 31 2023 13:03 utc | 56:
“I watched all of Oliver Stone’s 2015–2017 interviews with Putin, and based on those interchanges I came to think that Putin has been dumbfounded and at a loss of any vocabulary for comprehending the United States. My guess is he sees US as insane.”
It’s not only Putin. One can hear it in Lavrov’s talks, in Zakharova’s words. Dumbfounded is a good word choice!
No doubt the Russians are willing to talk anytime, but they would be nuts to agree on anything where they are not dictating and enforcing terms and they are not nuts. They will continue until their objectives are met, and given how insane the US seems to be, perhaps their objectives must go further than they did at the start of the SMO.
This isn’t going to get easier for Russia until the US does the crash-and-burn.

Posted by: oracle | Oct 31 2023 18:00 utc | 275

Posted by: Arrnon | Oct 31 2023 13:03 utc | 56:
“I watched all of Oliver Stone’s 2015–2017 interviews with Putin, and based on those interchanges I came to think that Putin has been dumbfounded and at a loss of any vocabulary for comprehending the United States. My guess is he sees US as insane.”
It’s not only Putin. One can hear it in Lavrov’s talks, in Zakharova’s words. Dumbfounded is a good word choice!
No doubt the Russians are willing to talk anytime, but they would be nuts to agree on anything where they are not dictating and enforcing terms and they are not nuts. They will continue until their objectives are met, and given how insane the US seems to be, perhaps their objectives must go further than they did at the start of the SMO.
This isn’t going to get easier for Russia until the US does the crash-and-burn.

Posted by: oracle | Oct 31 2023 18:00 utc | 276

I think you misjudge the west.
I think they see corruption as a feature to be exploited.
Posted by: jared | Oct 31 2023 12:55 utc | 53
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We at least know the Joe and Hunter Biden did. And Joe had so little respect for the American people that he bragged about it in public.

Posted by: Ed | Oct 31 2023 18:06 utc | 277

I think you misjudge the west.
I think they see corruption as a feature to be exploited.
Posted by: jared | Oct 31 2023 12:55 utc | 53
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We at least know the Joe and Hunter Biden did. And Joe had so little respect for the American people that he bragged about it in public.

Posted by: Ed | Oct 31 2023 18:06 utc | 278

The zel is delusional smells like BS made up by blinken et al…doubt zel believes it, just another moronic psy op role to play to change the narrative… maybe they gave him the idea that he’ll be able to walk away, using the excuse “the stress of defending democracy was too much for him.”. once he recovers he can lead the exile govt from Miami

Posted by: Peter b | Oct 31 2023 18:10 utc | 279

The zel is delusional smells like BS made up by blinken et al…doubt zel believes it, just another moronic psy op role to play to change the narrative… maybe they gave him the idea that he’ll be able to walk away, using the excuse “the stress of defending democracy was too much for him.”. once he recovers he can lead the exile govt from Miami

Posted by: Peter b | Oct 31 2023 18:10 utc | 280

As I recall, Zelensky campaigned for peace and was elected on that basis. Thus, voters voted for peace but were betrayed and further propagandized to hate all things Russian, which in reality meant hating themselves. The lucky ones were those who left Ukraine before 2022 and those who surrendered and refused to be repatriated in prisoner exchanges. Some of those ex-prisoners are now in the Russian Army.
Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 31 2023 14:13 utc | 75
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And that Mr. Karlof1, is why there will never be another national election in (what is left of) Ukraine as long as Zelensky is in power.

Posted by: Ed | Oct 31 2023 18:13 utc | 281

As I recall, Zelensky campaigned for peace and was elected on that basis. Thus, voters voted for peace but were betrayed and further propagandized to hate all things Russian, which in reality meant hating themselves. The lucky ones were those who left Ukraine before 2022 and those who surrendered and refused to be repatriated in prisoner exchanges. Some of those ex-prisoners are now in the Russian Army.
Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 31 2023 14:13 utc | 75
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And that Mr. Karlof1, is why there will never be another national election in (what is left of) Ukraine as long as Zelensky is in power.

Posted by: Ed | Oct 31 2023 18:13 utc | 282

Sorry to way in with this, but I am hearing this item more and more: Zelensky wants to mobilise the ladies Ukraine into fiery amazons. With a lack of manpower, he’s going for girl power. This is potential political dynamite as Annalena and Ursula VdL grab their rifles and head for the Russian front. But I have seen VERY little, next to nothing about this. Does anybody have a source for this info?
As for TIME, boo hoo. Its going delusional like VZ. If I were in Berlin or Paris I would be calling Moscow ASAP.

Posted by: Stierlitz | Oct 31 2023 18:17 utc | 283

Sorry to way in with this, but I am hearing this item more and more: Zelensky wants to mobilise the ladies Ukraine into fiery amazons. With a lack of manpower, he’s going for girl power. This is potential political dynamite as Annalena and Ursula VdL grab their rifles and head for the Russian front. But I have seen VERY little, next to nothing about this. Does anybody have a source for this info?
As for TIME, boo hoo. Its going delusional like VZ. If I were in Berlin or Paris I would be calling Moscow ASAP.

Posted by: Stierlitz | Oct 31 2023 18:17 utc | 284

DunGroanin | Oct 31 2023 12:15 utc | 39
*** All that remains is some tearful bargaining and demand that the rump ukropia be handed to the poor dispossessed Israelis- so they can be back in their European ‘roots’.
The multipolarists will probably let them. As long as they don’t bring any nukes, stay neutral and keep their natzio dreams in a bin that can’t ever be opened. Heck they may even get to use Odessa!***
Unfortunately, not entirely improbable….
Given their record, it would be just about the worst of all possible options.
And would mean that NATO and its lousy so-called “values” had won.

Posted by: Cynic | Oct 31 2023 18:23 utc | 285

DunGroanin | Oct 31 2023 12:15 utc | 39
*** All that remains is some tearful bargaining and demand that the rump ukropia be handed to the poor dispossessed Israelis- so they can be back in their European ‘roots’.
The multipolarists will probably let them. As long as they don’t bring any nukes, stay neutral and keep their natzio dreams in a bin that can’t ever be opened. Heck they may even get to use Odessa!***
Unfortunately, not entirely improbable….
Given their record, it would be just about the worst of all possible options.
And would mean that NATO and its lousy so-called “values” had won.

Posted by: Cynic | Oct 31 2023 18:23 utc | 286

Brian Berletic makes tyhe same point that I do @108. Only far better and in much greater detail. Highly recommended
https://journal-neo.su/2023/10/23/the-grim-prospects-of-us-proxies-ukraine-israel-and-taiwan/

Posted by: bevin | Oct 31 2023 18:24 utc | 287

Brian Berletic makes tyhe same point that I do @108. Only far better and in much greater detail. Highly recommended
https://journal-neo.su/2023/10/23/the-grim-prospects-of-us-proxies-ukraine-israel-and-taiwan/

Posted by: bevin | Oct 31 2023 18:24 utc | 288

Zelensky is a dead man walking living what’s left of his life looking over his shoulder.
He won’t live passed 60. The Russians will get him there is no doubt about it no matter where he lives.
You simply don’t get away with the shit this crook tried to get away with. He knows it as well. His family will end up all fucked up with a shrink a piece.

Posted by: Echo Chamber | Oct 31 2023 18:25 utc | 289

Zelensky is a dead man walking living what’s left of his life looking over his shoulder.
He won’t live passed 60. The Russians will get him there is no doubt about it no matter where he lives.
You simply don’t get away with the shit this crook tried to get away with. He knows it as well. His family will end up all fucked up with a shrink a piece.

Posted by: Echo Chamber | Oct 31 2023 18:25 utc | 290

Uu uuuuu Sorry but the two articles re just B*S from Zio MI6 Propagandamedia.
Arestovich is a MI6 snake and much more dangerous than the jewish clown
Arestovich would drive Chessmaster into many Minsk 2 traps. Chessmaster is the perfect naive victim for snake Arestovich

Posted by: SlowSoft | Oct 31 2023 18:26 utc | 291

Uu uuuuu Sorry but the two articles re just B*S from Zio MI6 Propagandamedia.
Arestovich is a MI6 snake and much more dangerous than the jewish clown
Arestovich would drive Chessmaster into many Minsk 2 traps. Chessmaster is the perfect naive victim for snake Arestovich

Posted by: SlowSoft | Oct 31 2023 18:26 utc | 292

How much do you really know about the GDR? question to 97

Posted by: anaisanesse | Oct 31 2023 18:31 utc | 293

How much do you really know about the GDR? question to 97

Posted by: anaisanesse | Oct 31 2023 18:31 utc | 294

Posted by: SlowSoft | Oct 31 2023 18:26 utc | 148
Arestovich is pure evil a true Nazi pig.

Posted by: Echo Chamber | Oct 31 2023 18:33 utc | 295

Posted by: SlowSoft | Oct 31 2023 18:26 utc | 148
Arestovich is pure evil a true Nazi pig.

Posted by: Echo Chamber | Oct 31 2023 18:33 utc | 296

“Got a question, why the TIME cover on the right-hand side is dated Nov 20, 2023? Is this practice kosher?”

Kitay Supporter 119
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Expiration date?

Posted by: nazcalito | Oct 31 2023 18:41 utc | 297

“Got a question, why the TIME cover on the right-hand side is dated Nov 20, 2023? Is this practice kosher?”

Kitay Supporter 119
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Expiration date?

Posted by: nazcalito | Oct 31 2023 18:41 utc | 298

@ 49… or was it 45?
It’s not the leaders that get hung out, it’s the little people that worked for us. Leaders and their money are flown out on the last plane. Z will be just fine so long as he follows directions to the end.
I can believe he’s continuing to follow directions, witness Biden moving heaven and earth to keep the money flowing… big profits stop when the money flow stops.
Of course it’s only prudent to have the next guy ready when it’s over, though imo the west thinks there will be negotiations while I think Russia will dictate terms,,, the west has nobody Russia could trust.

Posted by: John k | Oct 31 2023 18:42 utc | 299

@ 49… or was it 45?
It’s not the leaders that get hung out, it’s the little people that worked for us. Leaders and their money are flown out on the last plane. Z will be just fine so long as he follows directions to the end.
I can believe he’s continuing to follow directions, witness Biden moving heaven and earth to keep the money flowing… big profits stop when the money flow stops.
Of course it’s only prudent to have the next guy ready when it’s over, though imo the west thinks there will be negotiations while I think Russia will dictate terms,,, the west has nobody Russia could trust.

Posted by: John k | Oct 31 2023 18:42 utc | 300