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October 13, 2023
The Split In Israel And The War Of Al-Aqsa

What is the reason for the 'Al-Aqsa Deluge', as Hamas had named its terror operation against the Zionists?

On October 8 Alastair Crooke, one of most experienced Middle East hands, wrote in AlMahadeen:

"Israel" has shattered into two equally weighted factions holding to two irreconcilable visions of "Israel’s" future; two mutually opposing readings of history and of what it means to be Jewish.

The fissure could not be more complete. Except it is. One faction, which holds a majority in parliament, is broadly Mizrahi — a former underclass in Israeli society; and the other, largely well-to-do liberal Ashkenazi.

Mizrahi are mostly the original Middle Eastern Jews and often on the religious far right, Ashkenazi are mostly liberal European ones. The current Netanyahoo government is the first which includes far-right Mizrahi ministers.

Most Mizrahi follow the Sephardi religious rites. They want an religious state based on Jewish law.  They are as radial as ISIS.

The high court of Israel has 14 Ashkenazi judges and one Mizrahi one. It is one of the reasons why the Netanyahoo government wants the parliament to be able to vote down high court judgements. There have been large, U.S. sponsored 'regime change' protests in Israel against that move. The leaders of the military and security services, mostly Ashkenazi, have also opposed the government move against the court.

I therefore think that it is quite possible that there was intelligence pointing to the Hamas attack, but that it was not revealed to let Netanyahoo fall into a trap. We have however no evidence that there were reasonably precise intelligence warnings, or that they were held up.

There are already demands for Netanyahoo to go. If only for his long term sponsoring of Hamas as a counterweight to the more secular Fatah Palestinians. Should he no longer be prime minister the courts will take up the three bribe cases against him which are currently pending. He would likely end up in jail.

Another reason for Hamas' success was the fact that three of the four infantry battalions, with 800 soldiers each, that usually guard the Gaza strip,  had been moved to the West Bank to protect right-wing Zionist settlers during a religious holiday. This allowed for Hamas' easy breach of the fence.

Back to Alastair Crooke on the real motive of the Al-Aqsa flood:

Well, the Right in Netanyahu’s government has two long-standing commitments. One is to rebuild the (Jewish) Temple on ‘Temple Mount’ (Haram al-Shariff).

Just to be clear, that would entail demolishing Al-Aqsa.

The second overriding commitment is to the founding of "Israel", on the "Land of Israel". And again, to be clear, this (in their view) would entail clearing Palestinians from the West Bank. Indeed, the settlers have been cleansing Palestinians from swaths of the West Bank over the past year (notably between Ramallah and Jericho).

On Thursday morning (two days preceding Al-Aqsa Flood), more than 800 settlers stormed the Mosque Compound, under the full protection of Israeli forces. The drumbeat of such provocations is rising.

This is nothing new. The First Intifada was triggered by (then) PM Sharon making a provocative visit into the mosque. I was a part of Senator George Mitchell’s Presidential Committee investigating that incident. Even then, it was clear that Sharon intended the visit to fuel the fire of religious nationalism. At that time, the Temple Mount Movement was a minnow; today it has ministers in Cabinet and in key security positions — and has promised its followers to build the ‘Third Temple’.

So, the threat to Al-Aqsa has been building for two decades, and today is reaching an apex. And yet US and Israeli intelligence didn’t see resistance coming, and nor did they see the settler violence building in the West Bank?

What happened on Saturday was widely expected and clearly extensively planned.

There is by the way no archaeologic evidence, none, that a Jewish 'Temple' ever existed in Jerusalem. If it did, it was most likely not on the hill of Al-Aqsa but one of the six other ones.

Al-Aqsa is holy to all Muslims, Shia and Sunni alike. Its destruction would inevitably lead to war. The West is clearly underestimating what forces calls like this one can rise:

Khalid Aljabri, MD د.خالد الجبري @JabriMD – 11:52 UTC · Oct 13, 2023

Friday sermon from the Grand Mosque in Mecca prays for the “liberation of Al-Aqsa Mosque” in Jerusalem.

This is significant for two reasons:
• Audience of 2 billion Muslims.
• Such sermons have been significantly censored under MBS. Today's sermon was likely pre-approved.
Video

Israel has used White Phosphorus on the people in Gaza, another war crime. Israel has given all people in north Gaza, 1.1 million human beings, 24 hours to move to south Gaza. That is impossible and will not happen. It is an attempt of ethnic cleansing.

Caitlin Johnstone @caitoz – 10:52 UTC · Oct 13, 2023

If there were two million Jewish people trapped by Christians in a giant open-air prison and placed under total siege, being told that half of them had 24 hours to relocate into the other half or be killed, nobody would have any confusion about what they were witnessing.

If Israel makes, as announced, a ground attack on Gaza, Hizbullah in Lebanon is likely to attack Israel. The U.S. has allegedly let Syria know (via France) that Damascus, and President Assad personally, would be attacked if that were to happen. This is a miscalculation. It is far from certain that Assad, or even Iran, has the means to hold Hizbullah back.

A U.S. attack on the government of Syria would bring Russia into the war. Iran would also respond which is exactly what some of the neocons want.

The war could easily escalate further from there.

Comments

@Giyane #398:

If Putin continues to sympathise with Russian Jews in Israel…

Did you even read Putin’s latest comments on the issue? Did you read Nebenzya’s post–UNSC meeting comments I have posted in #366? Russia has become much more critical of Israel.

Posted by: S | Oct 14 2023 10:24 utc | 801

@Giyane #398:

If Putin continues to sympathise with Russian Jews in Israel…

Did you even read Putin’s latest comments on the issue? Did you read Nebenzya’s post–UNSC meeting comments I have posted in #366? Russia has become much more critical of Israel.

Posted by: S | Oct 14 2023 10:24 utc | 802

Is it it because they are are special and can live no where else or is there another reason- ie no one will sell them rubber boats?
Posted by: william paul | Oct 14 2023 10:12 utc | 400
Have you asked the fake Hebrew chosenites that question???

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 14 2023 10:26 utc | 803

Is it it because they are are special and can live no where else or is there another reason- ie no one will sell them rubber boats?
Posted by: william paul | Oct 14 2023 10:12 utc | 400
Have you asked the fake Hebrew chosenites that question???

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 14 2023 10:26 utc | 804

https://www.belltoons.co.uk/hotoffpress
Bell has long been too good for the Guardian.
Posted by: too scents | Oct 14 2023 7:37 utc | 370

… agreed .. .always appreciated this one which depicts Bush and Blair as inner city gang-bangers doing a drive by on Saddam for his oil … it hit me at the time as being directly on point …
DRIVE-BY-BUSH
https://www.belltoons.co.uk/bellworks/index.php/leaders/2003/1860-7-1-03_DRIVE-BY-BUSH

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Oct 14 2023 10:27 utc | 805

https://www.belltoons.co.uk/hotoffpress
Bell has long been too good for the Guardian.
Posted by: too scents | Oct 14 2023 7:37 utc | 370

… agreed .. .always appreciated this one which depicts Bush and Blair as inner city gang-bangers doing a drive by on Saddam for his oil … it hit me at the time as being directly on point …
DRIVE-BY-BUSH
https://www.belltoons.co.uk/bellworks/index.php/leaders/2003/1860-7-1-03_DRIVE-BY-BUSH

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Oct 14 2023 10:27 utc | 806

“I therefore think that it is quite possible that there was intelligence pointing to the Hamas attack, but that it was not revealed to let Netanyahoo fall into a trap. We have however no evidence that there were reasonably precise intelligence warnings, or that they were held up.”
as many commentators, i don’t buy it. after reading crooke, it seems that the netanyahoo trap was setted just when he formed a governemnt with the far right. the rest seems very consequential, cause it’s quite natural that right wing extremism exacerbate tensions and widen the risks of conflicts, and netanyahoo is too weak to control the extreme right, cause he got no alternatives. then, probably he also thinks himself the smartest guy of the knesset. but that’s not smartness, it’s hubris and it leads to strategic failures

Posted by: Giandavide | Oct 14 2023 10:32 utc | 807

“I therefore think that it is quite possible that there was intelligence pointing to the Hamas attack, but that it was not revealed to let Netanyahoo fall into a trap. We have however no evidence that there were reasonably precise intelligence warnings, or that they were held up.”
as many commentators, i don’t buy it. after reading crooke, it seems that the netanyahoo trap was setted just when he formed a governemnt with the far right. the rest seems very consequential, cause it’s quite natural that right wing extremism exacerbate tensions and widen the risks of conflicts, and netanyahoo is too weak to control the extreme right, cause he got no alternatives. then, probably he also thinks himself the smartest guy of the knesset. but that’s not smartness, it’s hubris and it leads to strategic failures

Posted by: Giandavide | Oct 14 2023 10:32 utc | 808

The resistance is still crossing the fence and making offensives:
“Al Qassam Brigades say resistance fighters crossed border fence east of Khan Yunis, attack Israeli occupation forces”
(Al Manar)
Trying to lure them in? Perhaps shaping the approach along just the right trajectory?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 14 2023 10:35 utc | 809

The resistance is still crossing the fence and making offensives:
“Al Qassam Brigades say resistance fighters crossed border fence east of Khan Yunis, attack Israeli occupation forces”
(Al Manar)
Trying to lure them in? Perhaps shaping the approach along just the right trajectory?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 14 2023 10:35 utc | 810

Have you asked the fake Hebrew chosenites that question???
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 14 2023 10:26 utc | 405
…………………………………………………….
Every DEFEATED ethnic group in history seems to wise up and move elsewhere, where life usually seems to get better. When and if the “chosenites” are defeated, perhaps they will move AGAIN if required?
Why are the former Philistines continuing to use a name, Palestine, imposed by the hated Romans around 100 AD?
And remember, the Philistines stole the Hebrews Ark of the Covenant way back then, which probably aroused some bad feelings that persist?

Posted by: william paul | Oct 14 2023 10:38 utc | 811

Have you asked the fake Hebrew chosenites that question???
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 14 2023 10:26 utc | 405
…………………………………………………….
Every DEFEATED ethnic group in history seems to wise up and move elsewhere, where life usually seems to get better. When and if the “chosenites” are defeated, perhaps they will move AGAIN if required?
Why are the former Philistines continuing to use a name, Palestine, imposed by the hated Romans around 100 AD?
And remember, the Philistines stole the Hebrews Ark of the Covenant way back then, which probably aroused some bad feelings that persist?

Posted by: william paul | Oct 14 2023 10:38 utc | 812

398
That is why I try to go back to first principles. Of course Judaism.and Christianity have massive residual respect in Western , secular countries.
But the main reason that they are secular countries is because Christianity and Judaism have failed them.
For example , you cannot have a society with two entirely opposite set of rules. For example Iran , where simultaneously there are scantily clad music raves and forcing the hijab by threatening prison sentences.
Religion in the Western world is like a dinner jacket or wedding dress moulders in a cupboard. They won’t throw it out for sentimental reasons, just as they
won’t condemn Israeli violence against Palestinians.
Any country that keeps its high principles in a suitcase in the attic, but breaks those principles on a daily basis , is a moral hypocrite. The Qur’an says that even if his prophet SAW were to condone moral hypocrisy , that Allah swt ‘ala will never forgive it.
So , if as we see now , every politician in the whole world is unable to voice the slightest disapproval of the Leader of HYPOCRISY, the would be killers and deniers of Jesus and Muhammad peace and blessings on both of them, that residual respect for Christianity and Judaism is FINISHED
So long as Jeremy Corbyn or Putin were able to articulate our world opposition to apartheid and Genocide, there was some hope for these old religions.
But now there is literally nobody left with an ounce of integrity to speak for us, YES, Netanyahu will get his Middle East change.
But it won’t be the change he has in mind.

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 14 2023 10:41 utc | 813

398
That is why I try to go back to first principles. Of course Judaism.and Christianity have massive residual respect in Western , secular countries.
But the main reason that they are secular countries is because Christianity and Judaism have failed them.
For example , you cannot have a society with two entirely opposite set of rules. For example Iran , where simultaneously there are scantily clad music raves and forcing the hijab by threatening prison sentences.
Religion in the Western world is like a dinner jacket or wedding dress moulders in a cupboard. They won’t throw it out for sentimental reasons, just as they
won’t condemn Israeli violence against Palestinians.
Any country that keeps its high principles in a suitcase in the attic, but breaks those principles on a daily basis , is a moral hypocrite. The Qur’an says that even if his prophet SAW were to condone moral hypocrisy , that Allah swt ‘ala will never forgive it.
So , if as we see now , every politician in the whole world is unable to voice the slightest disapproval of the Leader of HYPOCRISY, the would be killers and deniers of Jesus and Muhammad peace and blessings on both of them, that residual respect for Christianity and Judaism is FINISHED
So long as Jeremy Corbyn or Putin were able to articulate our world opposition to apartheid and Genocide, there was some hope for these old religions.
But now there is literally nobody left with an ounce of integrity to speak for us, YES, Netanyahu will get his Middle East change.
But it won’t be the change he has in mind.

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 14 2023 10:41 utc | 814

@william paul #400:

It seems half the Muslim world is now either already in or on the way to France, Germany, the UK or Italy.
What keeps the “slow death concentration camp imates from doing the same???

Read this:
I’m Palestinian. This Is What International Travel Looks Like for Me. (VICE, Salem El Rayyes, October 3, 2022)

Posted by: S | Oct 14 2023 10:41 utc | 815

@william paul #400:

It seems half the Muslim world is now either already in or on the way to France, Germany, the UK or Italy.
What keeps the “slow death concentration camp imates from doing the same???

Read this:
I’m Palestinian. This Is What International Travel Looks Like for Me. (VICE, Salem El Rayyes, October 3, 2022)

Posted by: S | Oct 14 2023 10:41 utc | 816

Egyptian intelligence official said that Jerusalem had ignored repeated warnings that Hamas was planning “something big” — which included an apparent direct notice from Cairo’s intelligence minister to the prime minister
Posted by: Jeff Coleman | Oct 14 2023 9:28 utc | 388
Occupation requires dehumanisation of the native population.
Dehumanisation requires dehumanisation of the intelligence of the population.
When the native is no longer seen as having intelligence equal to a human being then why should we fear their mindless aggression?
Disregard all the warnings, all the ‘intelligence’, after all we are the Ubermensch and they they unter …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 14 2023 10:44 utc | 817

Egyptian intelligence official said that Jerusalem had ignored repeated warnings that Hamas was planning “something big” — which included an apparent direct notice from Cairo’s intelligence minister to the prime minister
Posted by: Jeff Coleman | Oct 14 2023 9:28 utc | 388
Occupation requires dehumanisation of the native population.
Dehumanisation requires dehumanisation of the intelligence of the population.
When the native is no longer seen as having intelligence equal to a human being then why should we fear their mindless aggression?
Disregard all the warnings, all the ‘intelligence’, after all we are the Ubermensch and they they unter …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 14 2023 10:44 utc | 818

@william paul
Never mind. I answered your #400 before I read your #409 and realized you’re a fucking moron.

Posted by: S | Oct 14 2023 10:48 utc | 819

@william paul
Never mind. I answered your #400 before I read your #409 and realized you’re a fucking moron.

Posted by: S | Oct 14 2023 10:48 utc | 820

DEFEATED ethnic group
Posted by: william paul | Oct 14 2023 10:38 utc | 409

An unsubstantiated claim doesn’t make it so.
Wikipedia says there are 14.3 million Palestinians and 9.5 million Israelis.

Posted by: too scents | Oct 14 2023 10:48 utc | 821

DEFEATED ethnic group
Posted by: william paul | Oct 14 2023 10:38 utc | 409

An unsubstantiated claim doesn’t make it so.
Wikipedia says there are 14.3 million Palestinians and 9.5 million Israelis.

Posted by: too scents | Oct 14 2023 10:48 utc | 822

The resistance is still crossing the fence and making offensives:
“Al Qassam Brigades say resistance fighters crossed border fence east of Khan Yunis, attack Israeli occupation forces”
(Al Manar)
Trying to lure them in? Perhaps shaping the approach along just the right trajectory?
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 14 2023 10:35 utc | 408

That may well be true. It strikes me that a lot has been learned since Cast Lead and now, especially from the Ukrainian battlefields.
The homemade rockets then had little destructive power unlike the ones we are seeing now which undoubtedly pack more punch.
Also swamping the airspace with cheaper missiles rapidly depletes air defenses as was shown by the destroyed Ukrainian Patriots which shot their load in seconds before getting destroyed. I haven’t seen or heard of Patriots in Ukraine for months now.
If this is true then it would answer why any heavier munitions which could have been purchased have not been seen as it would be better to expend the cheaper less accurate stuff and save the more expensive things for the real battle.
The truth is we all (hopefully) learn from experience, so why not the Palestinians?
Time will tell.

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Oct 14 2023 10:50 utc | 823

The resistance is still crossing the fence and making offensives:
“Al Qassam Brigades say resistance fighters crossed border fence east of Khan Yunis, attack Israeli occupation forces”
(Al Manar)
Trying to lure them in? Perhaps shaping the approach along just the right trajectory?
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 14 2023 10:35 utc | 408

That may well be true. It strikes me that a lot has been learned since Cast Lead and now, especially from the Ukrainian battlefields.
The homemade rockets then had little destructive power unlike the ones we are seeing now which undoubtedly pack more punch.
Also swamping the airspace with cheaper missiles rapidly depletes air defenses as was shown by the destroyed Ukrainian Patriots which shot their load in seconds before getting destroyed. I haven’t seen or heard of Patriots in Ukraine for months now.
If this is true then it would answer why any heavier munitions which could have been purchased have not been seen as it would be better to expend the cheaper less accurate stuff and save the more expensive things for the real battle.
The truth is we all (hopefully) learn from experience, so why not the Palestinians?
Time will tell.

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Oct 14 2023 10:50 utc | 824

Every DEFEATED ethnic group in history seems to wise up and move elsewhere, where life usually seems to get better. When and if the “chosenites” are defeated, perhaps they will move AGAIN if required?
Posted by: william paul | Oct 14 2023 10:38 utc | 409
At last check of the IDF body count the Palestinians don’t seem to be defeated.
Sorry if you counted your eggs before they hatched.
You’ll forgive me for not responding to the rest of your gobbledygook, there’s nothing really there.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 14 2023 10:51 utc | 825

Every DEFEATED ethnic group in history seems to wise up and move elsewhere, where life usually seems to get better. When and if the “chosenites” are defeated, perhaps they will move AGAIN if required?
Posted by: william paul | Oct 14 2023 10:38 utc | 409
At last check of the IDF body count the Palestinians don’t seem to be defeated.
Sorry if you counted your eggs before they hatched.
You’ll forgive me for not responding to the rest of your gobbledygook, there’s nothing really there.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 14 2023 10:51 utc | 826

The west said Sadan Hussain had weapons of mass distruction.
The west has weapons of mass deception.
End of…

Posted by: Mark2 | Oct 14 2023 10:52 utc | 827

The west said Sadan Hussain had weapons of mass distruction.
The west has weapons of mass deception.
End of…

Posted by: Mark2 | Oct 14 2023 10:52 utc | 828

“Norman Finkelstein on the Jewish Crocodile tears” 11 years ago (3.14 minutes) …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw7FJ9y8m4M

Posted by: Menz | Oct 14 2023 10:56 utc | 829

“Norman Finkelstein on the Jewish Crocodile tears” 11 years ago (3.14 minutes) …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw7FJ9y8m4M

Posted by: Menz | Oct 14 2023 10:56 utc | 830

“Norman Finkelstein on the Jewish Crocodile tears” 11 years ago (3.14 minutes) …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw7FJ9y8m4M
Posted by: Menz | Oct 14 2023 10:56 utc | 418

… rather than comment I think I’ll just repost …
“Norman Finkelstein on the Jewish Crocodile tears” 11 years ago (3.14 minutes) …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw7FJ9y8m4M

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Oct 14 2023 11:02 utc | 831

“Norman Finkelstein on the Jewish Crocodile tears” 11 years ago (3.14 minutes) …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw7FJ9y8m4M
Posted by: Menz | Oct 14 2023 10:56 utc | 418

… rather than comment I think I’ll just repost …
“Norman Finkelstein on the Jewish Crocodile tears” 11 years ago (3.14 minutes) …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw7FJ9y8m4M

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Oct 14 2023 11:02 utc | 832

Giyane
You are critical of Russia and Iran ?
Nows not the momment for that.
Now is the time to present a united front against this atrousity.
Exactly what the middle east is doing right now. Putting their diffrence behind them for this commen course.
So be brave. Do your bit.

Posted by: Mark2 | Oct 14 2023 11:04 utc | 833

Giyane
You are critical of Russia and Iran ?
Nows not the momment for that.
Now is the time to present a united front against this atrousity.
Exactly what the middle east is doing right now. Putting their diffrence behind them for this commen course.
So be brave. Do your bit.

Posted by: Mark2 | Oct 14 2023 11:04 utc | 834

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 14 2023 10:41 utc | 410
Consider Russia, where for 70 religion was more or less prohibited. If you were a member of the communist party, even after death you were not allowed to put a cross on your grave. Churches were reformed into prisons, lunatic asylums, bars, warehouses. And now, after 70 years, orthodox christianity is back.
Now consider the countries under American tutelage. Observe the policies these countries have in common. LGTB, multiculturalism, immigration, feminism, human rights, pride, solidarity, democracy: words that have lost their original meaning. The day the US retreats there will be an adjustment, no doubt.

Posted by: Passerby | Oct 14 2023 11:08 utc | 835

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 14 2023 10:41 utc | 410
Consider Russia, where for 70 religion was more or less prohibited. If you were a member of the communist party, even after death you were not allowed to put a cross on your grave. Churches were reformed into prisons, lunatic asylums, bars, warehouses. And now, after 70 years, orthodox christianity is back.
Now consider the countries under American tutelage. Observe the policies these countries have in common. LGTB, multiculturalism, immigration, feminism, human rights, pride, solidarity, democracy: words that have lost their original meaning. The day the US retreats there will be an adjustment, no doubt.

Posted by: Passerby | Oct 14 2023 11:08 utc | 836

In that article b linked to, Crooke writes, “ Did the West not get it? Apparently not. It was right under their nose, but super high-tech Intel doesn’t do symbolic meaning.”
Too subtle? Canadian media tells me the Israeli ground offensive into Gaza officially starts at 9 am ET. It is now 7:20 ET and the lead article on TASS’ website is “ Hamas movement says it appreciates Putin’s stance on Gaza settlement”

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Oct 14 2023 11:21 utc | 837

In that article b linked to, Crooke writes, “ Did the West not get it? Apparently not. It was right under their nose, but super high-tech Intel doesn’t do symbolic meaning.”
Too subtle? Canadian media tells me the Israeli ground offensive into Gaza officially starts at 9 am ET. It is now 7:20 ET and the lead article on TASS’ website is “ Hamas movement says it appreciates Putin’s stance on Gaza settlement”

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Oct 14 2023 11:21 utc | 838

One of the major factors that the UK and the US supported the immigration of Jewish people to Palestine after WWII, was the profound antisemitism of their political leaders (e.g. Balfour) as well as the majority of their own population. Most British and American didn’t want Jews to immigrate from war-torn continental Europe to their ‘Islands.’
Watch: The US and the Holocaust

Posted by: Sentience | Oct 14 2023 11:34 utc | 839

One of the major factors that the UK and the US supported the immigration of Jewish people to Palestine after WWII, was the profound antisemitism of their political leaders (e.g. Balfour) as well as the majority of their own population. Most British and American didn’t want Jews to immigrate from war-torn continental Europe to their ‘Islands.’
Watch: The US and the Holocaust

Posted by: Sentience | Oct 14 2023 11:34 utc | 840

He knows full well part of this latest US incitment in Israel is to draw Russia into a secound front.
Posted by: Mark2 | Oct 14 2023 10:19 utc | 403
Where would be this second front and how will they get there? By teleportation? There is not even a primary front, only a failed smo because reasons. Gaza is gone already, the question is how long before bibibidens move into Syria and close the little Russian base, no direct attacks needed.

Posted by: rk | Oct 14 2023 11:55 utc | 841

He knows full well part of this latest US incitment in Israel is to draw Russia into a secound front.
Posted by: Mark2 | Oct 14 2023 10:19 utc | 403
Where would be this second front and how will they get there? By teleportation? There is not even a primary front, only a failed smo because reasons. Gaza is gone already, the question is how long before bibibidens move into Syria and close the little Russian base, no direct attacks needed.

Posted by: rk | Oct 14 2023 11:55 utc | 842

It seems there might be something to the rumour:
“Israeli army: An air force plane was hit by an anti-tank missile fired by Hamas”
(Al Manar)
Only question is whether it was in flight or on the runway …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 14 2023 11:56 utc | 843

It seems there might be something to the rumour:
“Israeli army: An air force plane was hit by an anti-tank missile fired by Hamas”
(Al Manar)
Only question is whether it was in flight or on the runway …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 14 2023 11:56 utc | 844

“The world is responsible for the war crimes committed by Israel.”
Yes, but not as responsible as all the Jewish Israeli citizens themselves are.
Israel is a Racist, Supremacist State – 5 mins very good, succinct
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JzGzyaUnz0
It’s obvious their goal is genocide of the Palestinian people.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Oct 14 2023 12:07 utc | 845

“The world is responsible for the war crimes committed by Israel.”
Yes, but not as responsible as all the Jewish Israeli citizens themselves are.
Israel is a Racist, Supremacist State – 5 mins very good, succinct
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JzGzyaUnz0
It’s obvious their goal is genocide of the Palestinian people.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Oct 14 2023 12:07 utc | 846

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 14 2023 10:44 utc | 412
you talking crap all day long whats your agenda?
Israel is doing what it always does, Jews have their traumata cause of WWII
so its not like that the reaction of Israel was suprising, Hamas knew it very well
so Hamas is to blame because they gfs about the ppl in Gaza
but YOU moron deny the fact Hamas are clerical fascists and anti-semites , it’s their raison d’etre.
you are nothing but a supporter of terrorists as many others in this forum.
in fact strange coalitions, while Ukraine the so called Bandera Azov nazi country showing solidarity
with Israel, the propaganda TG channels like Slavy, DDgeo et al and MoA showing sympathy with Hamas
and radical islam
shame on you and fuck you

Posted by: publicdisorder | Oct 14 2023 12:11 utc | 847

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 14 2023 10:44 utc | 412
you talking crap all day long whats your agenda?
Israel is doing what it always does, Jews have their traumata cause of WWII
so its not like that the reaction of Israel was suprising, Hamas knew it very well
so Hamas is to blame because they gfs about the ppl in Gaza
but YOU moron deny the fact Hamas are clerical fascists and anti-semites , it’s their raison d’etre.
you are nothing but a supporter of terrorists as many others in this forum.
in fact strange coalitions, while Ukraine the so called Bandera Azov nazi country showing solidarity
with Israel, the propaganda TG channels like Slavy, DDgeo et al and MoA showing sympathy with Hamas
and radical islam
shame on you and fuck you

Posted by: publicdisorder | Oct 14 2023 12:11 utc | 848

Blocked the troll hasbara clone – @william paul | Oct 14 2023 10:38 utc | 400 / 409
DNFTTrolls

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Oct 14 2023 12:13 utc | 849

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Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Oct 14 2023 12:13 utc | 850

Under 1:45 minutes to go. IDF timeline looming. Would it go ahead? Would it fail? Would the world be dragged into it?

Posted by: AI | Oct 14 2023 12:15 utc | 851

Under 1:45 minutes to go. IDF timeline looming. Would it go ahead? Would it fail? Would the world be dragged into it?

Posted by: AI | Oct 14 2023 12:15 utc | 852

West Bank Update :
Settler Paramilitaries kill 11, IDF conscripts fire live rounds into cvilian crowds …..
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-settlers-shoot-palestinian-worshippers-hebron

Posted by: Exile | Oct 14 2023 12:15 utc | 853

West Bank Update :
Settler Paramilitaries kill 11, IDF conscripts fire live rounds into cvilian crowds …..
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-settlers-shoot-palestinian-worshippers-hebron

Posted by: Exile | Oct 14 2023 12:15 utc | 854

I nearly give in to that temptation every time it crosses my mind, but there are still a few Marxists here and there who can chip in something of value every once in awhile (very far between.)
Posted by: pretzelattack | Oct 13 2023 21:46 utc | 204
I concur. There have obviously been great leaders and to some extent theorist post-Lenin. Stalin made some minor contributions theoretically, his understanding of Marxist dialectics was shallow but he did at least write very clearly and simply in a language a common worker could understand, discussing their actual problems. The CPC made more important contribution – particularly in the sphere of foreign politics, the so-called Three Worlds Theory and its implications – but I don’t consider it an “ism” (in fact the CPC has always rejected the term and contends that we still live in the age of Leninism (Marxism during the Imperialist phase,) and I’m unsure how much of what I mentioned can directly be attributed to Mao himself.
Mao was much worse writer than he was a calligrapher; given to self-important pseudo-philosophic babble, his dialectics a mess riddled with Taoist mysticism – ever tried to read “On Contradictions?” So in that sense I prefer Stalin. There was also a very good German Communist party called KPD(ml) Neue Einheit in the seventies who wrote several very advanced works, though they later deteriorated. They even got branded terrorists in West Germany which was quite ironic given their very vocal opposition to groups like the RAF. Their site seems shadowbanned by google but it’s still at http://www.neue-einheit.com/
Okay, we’re wildly off topic but as long as b. lets us, I enjoy these discussions.

Posted by: Tichy | Oct 14 2023 12:15 utc | 855

I nearly give in to that temptation every time it crosses my mind, but there are still a few Marxists here and there who can chip in something of value every once in awhile (very far between.)
Posted by: pretzelattack | Oct 13 2023 21:46 utc | 204
I concur. There have obviously been great leaders and to some extent theorist post-Lenin. Stalin made some minor contributions theoretically, his understanding of Marxist dialectics was shallow but he did at least write very clearly and simply in a language a common worker could understand, discussing their actual problems. The CPC made more important contribution – particularly in the sphere of foreign politics, the so-called Three Worlds Theory and its implications – but I don’t consider it an “ism” (in fact the CPC has always rejected the term and contends that we still live in the age of Leninism (Marxism during the Imperialist phase,) and I’m unsure how much of what I mentioned can directly be attributed to Mao himself.
Mao was much worse writer than he was a calligrapher; given to self-important pseudo-philosophic babble, his dialectics a mess riddled with Taoist mysticism – ever tried to read “On Contradictions?” So in that sense I prefer Stalin. There was also a very good German Communist party called KPD(ml) Neue Einheit in the seventies who wrote several very advanced works, though they later deteriorated. They even got branded terrorists in West Germany which was quite ironic given their very vocal opposition to groups like the RAF. Their site seems shadowbanned by google but it’s still at http://www.neue-einheit.com/
Okay, we’re wildly off topic but as long as b. lets us, I enjoy these discussions.

Posted by: Tichy | Oct 14 2023 12:15 utc | 856

you talking crap all day long whats your agenda?
shame on you and fuck you
Posted by: publicdisorder | Oct 14 2023 12:11 utc | 427
Awesome.
Just the reaction I was looking for.
Seems I’m touching just the right nerve …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 14 2023 12:16 utc | 857

you talking crap all day long whats your agenda?
shame on you and fuck you
Posted by: publicdisorder | Oct 14 2023 12:11 utc | 427
Awesome.
Just the reaction I was looking for.
Seems I’m touching just the right nerve …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 14 2023 12:16 utc | 858

Have seen almost no discussion of the Hannibal Doctrine.
https://theworld.org/stories/2014-08-07/some-israel-are-questioning-militarys-hannibal-doctrine

The Israeli military’s Hannibal Doctrine instructs soldiers to fire heavily if a comrade is taken captive by the enemy — even at the risk of killing the captive soldier.
In Israel, the ethos is: you don’t abandon your soldiers in the battlefield, says Daniel Nisman, a geopolitical consultant who served in the Israeli military.
“Everyone gives their sons and daughters to the military and they expect the military to return them,” Nisman says — even at the expense of returning them dead.

Hamas escaped their prison and descended upon a “Rave Party” seeking the capture of hostages.
There were IDF soldiers in the area, correct?
Did the IDF implement the Hannibal Doctrine at the “Rave Party”?
Why would there be an exception to the doctrine?

Posted by: librul | Oct 14 2023 12:17 utc | 859

Have seen almost no discussion of the Hannibal Doctrine.
https://theworld.org/stories/2014-08-07/some-israel-are-questioning-militarys-hannibal-doctrine

The Israeli military’s Hannibal Doctrine instructs soldiers to fire heavily if a comrade is taken captive by the enemy — even at the risk of killing the captive soldier.
In Israel, the ethos is: you don’t abandon your soldiers in the battlefield, says Daniel Nisman, a geopolitical consultant who served in the Israeli military.
“Everyone gives their sons and daughters to the military and they expect the military to return them,” Nisman says — even at the expense of returning them dead.

Hamas escaped their prison and descended upon a “Rave Party” seeking the capture of hostages.
There were IDF soldiers in the area, correct?
Did the IDF implement the Hannibal Doctrine at the “Rave Party”?
Why would there be an exception to the doctrine?

Posted by: librul | Oct 14 2023 12:17 utc | 860

Western governments with all their “freedoms”,- suddenly imposing a restriction on “pro-Palestine” protests/demos.
Now imagine such restrictions coupled with a system they’re eager to implement -CBDC – digital ID.
Scary!

Posted by: Cato | Oct 14 2023 12:17 utc | 861

Western governments with all their “freedoms”,- suddenly imposing a restriction on “pro-Palestine” protests/demos.
Now imagine such restrictions coupled with a system they’re eager to implement -CBDC – digital ID.
Scary!

Posted by: Cato | Oct 14 2023 12:17 utc | 862

@Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 14 2023 12:16 utc | 432
You just outted yourself as a troll.
Why doesn’t b sweep your trash away?
You admit that you are a troll.

Posted by: librul | Oct 14 2023 12:18 utc | 863

@Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 14 2023 12:16 utc | 432
You just outted yourself as a troll.
Why doesn’t b sweep your trash away?
You admit that you are a troll.

Posted by: librul | Oct 14 2023 12:18 utc | 864

Humza Yousaf Scottish FM has said on BBC that Israel’s collective punishment is illegal and Israel has gone too far.
I’m moving to Scotland.

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 14 2023 12:19 utc | 865

Humza Yousaf Scottish FM has said on BBC that Israel’s collective punishment is illegal and Israel has gone too far.
I’m moving to Scotland.

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 14 2023 12:19 utc | 866

Hamas are clerical fascists and anti-semites
Posted by: publicdisorder | Oct 14 2023 12:11 utc | 427
All arabs are semites, if you didn’t know. Whereas israelis, and jews around the world in general, are mostly not semites. Jews have gotten themselves thrown out of various countries dozens or hundreds of times, so their “trauma” didn’t start with WWII. You could also research who financed a lot of the nazi activities, how many jews served in Hitler’s army, etc.

Posted by: Michael A | Oct 14 2023 12:20 utc | 867

Hamas are clerical fascists and anti-semites
Posted by: publicdisorder | Oct 14 2023 12:11 utc | 427
All arabs are semites, if you didn’t know. Whereas israelis, and jews around the world in general, are mostly not semites. Jews have gotten themselves thrown out of various countries dozens or hundreds of times, so their “trauma” didn’t start with WWII. You could also research who financed a lot of the nazi activities, how many jews served in Hitler’s army, etc.

Posted by: Michael A | Oct 14 2023 12:20 utc | 868

Sorry if already linked :
‘Two failures’: Former defense secretary reacts to US having intel ahead of attack’
https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2023/10/13/mark-esper-us-intelligence-hamas-attack-israel-cnc-vpx.cnn
US & Israel KNEW.

Posted by: Tak-Tik | Oct 14 2023 12:23 utc | 869

Sorry if already linked :
‘Two failures’: Former defense secretary reacts to US having intel ahead of attack’
https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2023/10/13/mark-esper-us-intelligence-hamas-attack-israel-cnc-vpx.cnn
US & Israel KNEW.

Posted by: Tak-Tik | Oct 14 2023 12:23 utc | 870

You just outted yourself as a troll.
Why doesn’t b sweep your trash away?
You admit that you are a troll.
Posted by: librul | Oct 14 2023 12:18 utc | 435
How? By telling the truth?
Does telling the truth a pissing off liars count as trolling to you?
Please clarify?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 14 2023 12:23 utc | 871

You just outted yourself as a troll.
Why doesn’t b sweep your trash away?
You admit that you are a troll.
Posted by: librul | Oct 14 2023 12:18 utc | 435
How? By telling the truth?
Does telling the truth a pissing off liars count as trolling to you?
Please clarify?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 14 2023 12:23 utc | 872

@Posted by: Cato | Oct 14 2023 12:17 utc | 434
Indeed.
Blacklisting is back.

Disagreeing with the ADL = antisemitism

More than two dozen companies have already pledged their commitment
New York, NY, October 11, 2023 … In response to a surge of antisemitism around the world in the aftermath of the terrorist massacre of more than 1,100 unarmed civilians in Israel, ADL (the Anti-Defamation League) today called on CEOs of major corporations globally to speak out against hate and commit to ADL’s “Workplace Pledge to Fight Antisemitism.”

https://www.adl.org/resources/press-release/adl-urges-corporate-ceos-sign-workplace-pledge-antisemitism-surges-globally

Posted by: librul | Oct 14 2023 12:24 utc | 873

@Posted by: Cato | Oct 14 2023 12:17 utc | 434
Indeed.
Blacklisting is back.

Disagreeing with the ADL = antisemitism

More than two dozen companies have already pledged their commitment
New York, NY, October 11, 2023 … In response to a surge of antisemitism around the world in the aftermath of the terrorist massacre of more than 1,100 unarmed civilians in Israel, ADL (the Anti-Defamation League) today called on CEOs of major corporations globally to speak out against hate and commit to ADL’s “Workplace Pledge to Fight Antisemitism.”

https://www.adl.org/resources/press-release/adl-urges-corporate-ceos-sign-workplace-pledge-antisemitism-surges-globally

Posted by: librul | Oct 14 2023 12:24 utc | 874

ADL’s “Workplace Pledge to Fight Antisemitism.”
Posted by: librul | Oct 14 2023 12:24 utc | 440

Run that up the flagpole and see who salutes. Take down the names of who doesn’t.

Posted by: too scents | Oct 14 2023 12:27 utc | 875

ADL’s “Workplace Pledge to Fight Antisemitism.”
Posted by: librul | Oct 14 2023 12:24 utc | 440

Run that up the flagpole and see who salutes. Take down the names of who doesn’t.

Posted by: too scents | Oct 14 2023 12:27 utc | 876

Israel is doing what it always does, Jews have their traumata cause of WWII
so its not like that the reaction of Israel was suprising, Hamas knew it very well
so Hamas is to blame because they gfs about the ppl in Gaza
but YOU moron deny the fact Hamas are clerical fascists and anti-semites , it’s their raison d’etre.
you are nothing but a supporter of terrorists as many others in this forum.
in fact strange coalitions, while Ukraine the so called Bandera Azov nazi country showing solidarity
with Israel, the propaganda TG channels like Slavy, DDgeo et al and MoA showing sympathy with Hamas
and radical islam
shame on you and fuck you
publicdisorder | Oct 14 2023 12:11 utc | 427

Screw the Israeli Jews cheap victim card of WW2 ….. the Holocaust killed 20 million, the Jews were a minority. It does not give them the power to become Murderous Racist Nazis themselves.
So fuck that argument. They can get therapy for their residual generational “trauma” – most of which is Faked BS.
Hamas’ raison d’etre. is freedom fighters for the Palestinian people as a whole. Only a “moron” denies this and posts Israeli and US Empire propaganda and lies instead.
Israel is the Terrorist and that began with their Zionist ancestors in 1930s. You are the ignorant supporter of terrorists. And a moron to believe that shit.
Hamas has nothing to do with “radical Islam” if you weren’t an idiot you’d know that already.
Blocked forever.
Do not Feed the Trolls or those incompetents who support terrorists like the Zionist Racist Supremacist Evil State of Israel and the psychopathic racist terrorist Jews within it.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Oct 14 2023 12:27 utc | 877

Israel is doing what it always does, Jews have their traumata cause of WWII
so its not like that the reaction of Israel was suprising, Hamas knew it very well
so Hamas is to blame because they gfs about the ppl in Gaza
but YOU moron deny the fact Hamas are clerical fascists and anti-semites , it’s their raison d’etre.
you are nothing but a supporter of terrorists as many others in this forum.
in fact strange coalitions, while Ukraine the so called Bandera Azov nazi country showing solidarity
with Israel, the propaganda TG channels like Slavy, DDgeo et al and MoA showing sympathy with Hamas
and radical islam
shame on you and fuck you
publicdisorder | Oct 14 2023 12:11 utc | 427

Screw the Israeli Jews cheap victim card of WW2 ….. the Holocaust killed 20 million, the Jews were a minority. It does not give them the power to become Murderous Racist Nazis themselves.
So fuck that argument. They can get therapy for their residual generational “trauma” – most of which is Faked BS.
Hamas’ raison d’etre. is freedom fighters for the Palestinian people as a whole. Only a “moron” denies this and posts Israeli and US Empire propaganda and lies instead.
Israel is the Terrorist and that began with their Zionist ancestors in 1930s. You are the ignorant supporter of terrorists. And a moron to believe that shit.
Hamas has nothing to do with “radical Islam” if you weren’t an idiot you’d know that already.
Blocked forever.
Do not Feed the Trolls or those incompetents who support terrorists like the Zionist Racist Supremacist Evil State of Israel and the psychopathic racist terrorist Jews within it.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Oct 14 2023 12:27 utc | 878

Settler Paramilitaries kill 11 ………
this was happening since the 1930s

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Oct 14 2023 12:29 utc | 879

Settler Paramilitaries kill 11 ………
this was happening since the 1930s

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Oct 14 2023 12:29 utc | 880

I think it’s a “go” from Nasrallah’s side:
“15:30 Hezbollah strikes all Israeli occupation sites in Shebaa Farms and KfarShuba hills”

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 14 2023 12:33 utc | 881

I think it’s a “go” from Nasrallah’s side:
“15:30 Hezbollah strikes all Israeli occupation sites in Shebaa Farms and KfarShuba hills”

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 14 2023 12:33 utc | 882

BREAKING:
Amir Abdollahian Iran’s FM:
The leaders of the Resistance Axis have their hands on the trigger, and in talking to them I have learnt that the response of the resistance leaders will be regrettable and decisive and will change the geography of the occupied Palestinian territories.

https://twitter.com/Megatron_ron/status/1713144317311627361

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 14 2023 12:35 utc | 883

BREAKING:
Amir Abdollahian Iran’s FM:
The leaders of the Resistance Axis have their hands on the trigger, and in talking to them I have learnt that the response of the resistance leaders will be regrettable and decisive and will change the geography of the occupied Palestinian territories.

https://twitter.com/Megatron_ron/status/1713144317311627361

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 14 2023 12:35 utc | 884

librul | Oct 14 2023 4:06 utc | 334
*** If you don’t agree with the ADL
that is antisemitism. And wrongthink.
And disagreeing could very well hurt your career.***
Doesn’t the ADL support the Ukronazis …
which would in effect mean that companies and employees would,
to avoid being called “anti-semitic”, have to unquestioningly
support the Kiev regime in addition to that of Israel.

Posted by: Cynic | Oct 14 2023 12:37 utc | 885

librul | Oct 14 2023 4:06 utc | 334
*** If you don’t agree with the ADL
that is antisemitism. And wrongthink.
And disagreeing could very well hurt your career.***
Doesn’t the ADL support the Ukronazis …
which would in effect mean that companies and employees would,
to avoid being called “anti-semitic”, have to unquestioningly
support the Kiev regime in addition to that of Israel.

Posted by: Cynic | Oct 14 2023 12:37 utc | 886

Mark2 420
United front? If Putin thinks his Muslim population of the Russian Federation don’t need a statement on a par with Humza Yousaf’s that Israeli collective punishment of Gaza is illegal, then he will lose his own back garden.
Then he will have Nato kicking his West and Islam kicking his East. Not to mention the Global South kicking in between.

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 14 2023 12:37 utc | 887

Mark2 420
United front? If Putin thinks his Muslim population of the Russian Federation don’t need a statement on a par with Humza Yousaf’s that Israeli collective punishment of Gaza is illegal, then he will lose his own back garden.
Then he will have Nato kicking his West and Islam kicking his East. Not to mention the Global South kicking in between.

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 14 2023 12:37 utc | 888

uprooting a million people is hitler, mao, and Stalin league….
Posted by: paddy | Oct 14 2023 2:04 utc | 301
Typical right-wing disingenuous agitprop. A more fitting analogy would be Hitler, Churchill and Hirohito. You could throw in Bush Jr, Truman and various other criminals against humanity.
Stalin and Mao were both flawed and both great men. They never sought the genocide of any people.

Posted by: Tichy | Oct 14 2023 12:38 utc | 889

uprooting a million people is hitler, mao, and Stalin league….
Posted by: paddy | Oct 14 2023 2:04 utc | 301
Typical right-wing disingenuous agitprop. A more fitting analogy would be Hitler, Churchill and Hirohito. You could throw in Bush Jr, Truman and various other criminals against humanity.
Stalin and Mao were both flawed and both great men. They never sought the genocide of any people.

Posted by: Tichy | Oct 14 2023 12:38 utc | 890

Why is the West vigorously supporting the Israeli genocide of the Palestinians?
To provoke their Muslim immigrant populations into action so that they have an excuse to deport, murder, and disenfranchise them. That is why the Palestinian’s point of view has been silenced in the West.
Watch France.

Posted by: CitizenSmith | Oct 14 2023 12:38 utc | 891

Why is the West vigorously supporting the Israeli genocide of the Palestinians?
To provoke their Muslim immigrant populations into action so that they have an excuse to deport, murder, and disenfranchise them. That is why the Palestinian’s point of view has been silenced in the West.
Watch France.

Posted by: CitizenSmith | Oct 14 2023 12:38 utc | 892

Hannibal Doctrine
Illuminating and insightful. Thank you

Posted by: Exile | Oct 14 2023 12:39 utc | 893

Hannibal Doctrine
Illuminating and insightful. Thank you

Posted by: Exile | Oct 14 2023 12:39 utc | 894

https://twitter.com/Megatron_ron/status/1713144317311627361
Posted by: unimperator | Oct 14 2023 12:35 utc | 445
“There are decades where nothing happens, and there are weeks where decades happen.”
Fingers crossed.

Posted by: Tichy | Oct 14 2023 12:41 utc | 895

https://twitter.com/Megatron_ron/status/1713144317311627361
Posted by: unimperator | Oct 14 2023 12:35 utc | 445
“There are decades where nothing happens, and there are weeks where decades happen.”
Fingers crossed.

Posted by: Tichy | Oct 14 2023 12:41 utc | 896

Brief overview of the Gaza Tunnel Network by the Zionist owned Bloomberg News.
Evidently, Hamas claims to have built 500km of Tunnels
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-10-13/the-secret-tunnel-network-complicating-israel-s-ground-offensive-in-gaza

Posted by: Exile | Oct 14 2023 12:41 utc | 897

Brief overview of the Gaza Tunnel Network by the Zionist owned Bloomberg News.
Evidently, Hamas claims to have built 500km of Tunnels
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-10-13/the-secret-tunnel-network-complicating-israel-s-ground-offensive-in-gaza

Posted by: Exile | Oct 14 2023 12:41 utc | 898

Everyday the “West” hypocrisy becomes more and more glaringly evident. Not that it hasn’t been for the last 20 years, but the screeching of “civilian” markets, apartment buildings ect. , the HR “violations” in hitting energy infrastructure in Ukraine, all the nonsense made up or not, now is laid bare.
The HRC “verified” use of White phosphorus, all the UNRW schools and sites in Gaza that are international protected by law, the cut of power, food, water, forced relocations attempts. There is no cover for these blatant abuses and the “finality” of the “West” as anything other than a gangster mafia group is cemented & any narrative otherwise is the West in its own echo chamber.
As the US uses this Israeli proxy war to try to reassert dominance & control over ME and undermine BRI-BRICS advancing, they’ve really revealed their desperation.
There are a lot of chess pieces moving in the ME now, and swiftly. Regardless of how this ridiculous proxy war finishes, by ceasefire or whatever, the West again, overplayed their weak hand, and the dumping of the dollar faster will be the result.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 14 2023 12:41 utc | 899

Everyday the “West” hypocrisy becomes more and more glaringly evident. Not that it hasn’t been for the last 20 years, but the screeching of “civilian” markets, apartment buildings ect. , the HR “violations” in hitting energy infrastructure in Ukraine, all the nonsense made up or not, now is laid bare.
The HRC “verified” use of White phosphorus, all the UNRW schools and sites in Gaza that are international protected by law, the cut of power, food, water, forced relocations attempts. There is no cover for these blatant abuses and the “finality” of the “West” as anything other than a gangster mafia group is cemented & any narrative otherwise is the West in its own echo chamber.
As the US uses this Israeli proxy war to try to reassert dominance & control over ME and undermine BRI-BRICS advancing, they’ve really revealed their desperation.
There are a lot of chess pieces moving in the ME now, and swiftly. Regardless of how this ridiculous proxy war finishes, by ceasefire or whatever, the West again, overplayed their weak hand, and the dumping of the dollar faster will be the result.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 14 2023 12:41 utc | 900