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October 13, 2023
The Split In Israel And The War Of Al-Aqsa

What is the reason for the 'Al-Aqsa Deluge', as Hamas had named its terror operation against the Zionists?

On October 8 Alastair Crooke, one of most experienced Middle East hands, wrote in AlMahadeen:

"Israel" has shattered into two equally weighted factions holding to two irreconcilable visions of "Israel’s" future; two mutually opposing readings of history and of what it means to be Jewish.

The fissure could not be more complete. Except it is. One faction, which holds a majority in parliament, is broadly Mizrahi — a former underclass in Israeli society; and the other, largely well-to-do liberal Ashkenazi.

Mizrahi are mostly the original Middle Eastern Jews and often on the religious far right, Ashkenazi are mostly liberal European ones. The current Netanyahoo government is the first which includes far-right Mizrahi ministers.

Most Mizrahi follow the Sephardi religious rites. They want an religious state based on Jewish law.  They are as radial as ISIS.

The high court of Israel has 14 Ashkenazi judges and one Mizrahi one. It is one of the reasons why the Netanyahoo government wants the parliament to be able to vote down high court judgements. There have been large, U.S. sponsored 'regime change' protests in Israel against that move. The leaders of the military and security services, mostly Ashkenazi, have also opposed the government move against the court.

I therefore think that it is quite possible that there was intelligence pointing to the Hamas attack, but that it was not revealed to let Netanyahoo fall into a trap. We have however no evidence that there were reasonably precise intelligence warnings, or that they were held up.

There are already demands for Netanyahoo to go. If only for his long term sponsoring of Hamas as a counterweight to the more secular Fatah Palestinians. Should he no longer be prime minister the courts will take up the three bribe cases against him which are currently pending. He would likely end up in jail.

Another reason for Hamas' success was the fact that three of the four infantry battalions, with 800 soldiers each, that usually guard the Gaza strip,  had been moved to the West Bank to protect right-wing Zionist settlers during a religious holiday. This allowed for Hamas' easy breach of the fence.

Back to Alastair Crooke on the real motive of the Al-Aqsa flood:

Well, the Right in Netanyahu’s government has two long-standing commitments. One is to rebuild the (Jewish) Temple on ‘Temple Mount’ (Haram al-Shariff).

Just to be clear, that would entail demolishing Al-Aqsa.

The second overriding commitment is to the founding of "Israel", on the "Land of Israel". And again, to be clear, this (in their view) would entail clearing Palestinians from the West Bank. Indeed, the settlers have been cleansing Palestinians from swaths of the West Bank over the past year (notably between Ramallah and Jericho).

On Thursday morning (two days preceding Al-Aqsa Flood), more than 800 settlers stormed the Mosque Compound, under the full protection of Israeli forces. The drumbeat of such provocations is rising.

This is nothing new. The First Intifada was triggered by (then) PM Sharon making a provocative visit into the mosque. I was a part of Senator George Mitchell’s Presidential Committee investigating that incident. Even then, it was clear that Sharon intended the visit to fuel the fire of religious nationalism. At that time, the Temple Mount Movement was a minnow; today it has ministers in Cabinet and in key security positions — and has promised its followers to build the ‘Third Temple’.

So, the threat to Al-Aqsa has been building for two decades, and today is reaching an apex. And yet US and Israeli intelligence didn’t see resistance coming, and nor did they see the settler violence building in the West Bank?

What happened on Saturday was widely expected and clearly extensively planned.

There is by the way no archaeologic evidence, none, that a Jewish 'Temple' ever existed in Jerusalem. If it did, it was most likely not on the hill of Al-Aqsa but one of the six other ones.

Al-Aqsa is holy to all Muslims, Shia and Sunni alike. Its destruction would inevitably lead to war. The West is clearly underestimating what forces calls like this one can rise:

Khalid Aljabri, MD د.خالد الجبري @JabriMD – 11:52 UTC · Oct 13, 2023

Friday sermon from the Grand Mosque in Mecca prays for the “liberation of Al-Aqsa Mosque” in Jerusalem.

This is significant for two reasons:
• Audience of 2 billion Muslims.
• Such sermons have been significantly censored under MBS. Today's sermon was likely pre-approved.
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Israel has used White Phosphorus on the people in Gaza, another war crime. Israel has given all people in north Gaza, 1.1 million human beings, 24 hours to move to south Gaza. That is impossible and will not happen. It is an attempt of ethnic cleansing.

Caitlin Johnstone @caitoz – 10:52 UTC · Oct 13, 2023

If there were two million Jewish people trapped by Christians in a giant open-air prison and placed under total siege, being told that half of them had 24 hours to relocate into the other half or be killed, nobody would have any confusion about what they were witnessing.

If Israel makes, as announced, a ground attack on Gaza, Hizbullah in Lebanon is likely to attack Israel. The U.S. has allegedly let Syria know (via France) that Damascus, and President Assad personally, would be attacked if that were to happen. This is a miscalculation. It is far from certain that Assad, or even Iran, has the means to hold Hizbullah back.

A U.S. attack on the government of Syria would bring Russia into the war. Iran would also respond which is exactly what some of the neocons want.

The war could easily escalate further from there.

Comments

“Exactly. It’s high time we introduced that phrase into the discussion.”
People who understand that “Israel” is threatening Palestine with mass annihilation tend to be withdrawn right now. The import of the event can’t be rationally described, and what it means for the future is too dark to contemplate for any great length of time.

Posted by: anonymous | Oct 13 2023 19:08 utc | 201

“Exactly. It’s high time we introduced that phrase into the discussion.”
People who understand that “Israel” is threatening Palestine with mass annihilation tend to be withdrawn right now. The import of the event can’t be rationally described, and what it means for the future is too dark to contemplate for any great length of time.

Posted by: anonymous | Oct 13 2023 19:08 utc | 202

Craig Murray has another interesting post on the Western reaction to Gaza.
Some quotes from Murray:
“You can go out in the streets of the UK with an Israeli flag and yell that you want every Palestinian to be cleansed from Gaza. That is not illegal. If you say the Palestinians have a right to resist their genocide, that is illegal.
That appears to be a genuine analysis of the law in the UK, France and many other western countries.
That is intended to terrify all of us. It will not work.
The European Commission has been ferociously zionist and gung-ho for this Palestinian genocide. It displayed the Israeli flag on its Berlaymont headquarters. It has taken a side in the most ferocious way.
It is therefore deeply sinister that the European Commission is actively working to shut down pro-Palestinian information and comment on social media. The European Commission has written to all major social media organisations and is able to threaten them with massive fines if they do not remove information of which the European Union disapproves.

We are witnessing almost all western governments deliberately facilitating massacre, ethnic cleansing and genocide. We are witnessing almost all western governments turning on their own people to crush dissent at that complicity in genocide.
This feels not so much like the week that western democracy died, as the week it was impossible any longer to deny that western democracy died some time ago.”

Posted by: Blue Dotterel | Oct 13 2023 19:12 utc | 203

Craig Murray has another interesting post on the Western reaction to Gaza.
Some quotes from Murray:
“You can go out in the streets of the UK with an Israeli flag and yell that you want every Palestinian to be cleansed from Gaza. That is not illegal. If you say the Palestinians have a right to resist their genocide, that is illegal.
That appears to be a genuine analysis of the law in the UK, France and many other western countries.
That is intended to terrify all of us. It will not work.
The European Commission has been ferociously zionist and gung-ho for this Palestinian genocide. It displayed the Israeli flag on its Berlaymont headquarters. It has taken a side in the most ferocious way.
It is therefore deeply sinister that the European Commission is actively working to shut down pro-Palestinian information and comment on social media. The European Commission has written to all major social media organisations and is able to threaten them with massive fines if they do not remove information of which the European Union disapproves.

We are witnessing almost all western governments deliberately facilitating massacre, ethnic cleansing and genocide. We are witnessing almost all western governments turning on their own people to crush dissent at that complicity in genocide.
This feels not so much like the week that western democracy died, as the week it was impossible any longer to deny that western democracy died some time ago.”

Posted by: Blue Dotterel | Oct 13 2023 19:12 utc | 204

VP stated a nazi like siege of Leningrad is unacceptable for Gaza. There’s a history lesson.
Posted by: Hankster | Oct 13 2023 17:38 utc | 60
Sorry, he can’t stop that even if he wanted, and he is on Israel side anyway. Not that any of the sides cares what Russia says. Literally no one cares, no neutrals have closed a single US biolab, they do open new US bases and the brics currency Putin talked about last year is dead already. Because no one wants to have anything to do with occupied losers with exploding pipes, who are terrorized every day by a nato proxy army with no training that they can’t push out of their country, while their own little army is not allowed to damage anything useful because it’s owned by the many abramoviches.

Posted by: rk | Oct 13 2023 19:13 utc | 205

VP stated a nazi like siege of Leningrad is unacceptable for Gaza. There’s a history lesson.
Posted by: Hankster | Oct 13 2023 17:38 utc | 60
Sorry, he can’t stop that even if he wanted, and he is on Israel side anyway. Not that any of the sides cares what Russia says. Literally no one cares, no neutrals have closed a single US biolab, they do open new US bases and the brics currency Putin talked about last year is dead already. Because no one wants to have anything to do with occupied losers with exploding pipes, who are terrorized every day by a nato proxy army with no training that they can’t push out of their country, while their own little army is not allowed to damage anything useful because it’s owned by the many abramoviches.

Posted by: rk | Oct 13 2023 19:13 utc | 206

How self-righteous Jeffrey StClair at Counterpunch accurately describes the hypocrisy:
Only Israel is allowed to act in “self-defense.” It is a term reserved for the powerful, a shield against the daily acts of violence, coercion, land theft, illegal detention and economic strangulation imposed on a captive population, whose own self-defense is termed “terrorism” and thus becomes yet another justification for inflicting more overwhelming state violence–what any rational person would call “terrorism”–on impoverished and largely defenseless people.
Funny, then, that he can’t see the same was taking place in the Donbass region of Ukraine. Did the Ukro-Nazi government NOT deem them “terrorists” from the very first day, with US backing? Were they NOT defending themselves? Were they NOT being cleansed from their land? Was what the Ukro-Nazi government with US help doing not more akin to terrorism than the people of Donbass defending themselves after protesting a fascist coup?
Oh, PS: I’m going to see Jimmy Dore tonight in Houston. I think I’m going to bring up RFK Jr’s bloodthirsty rhetoric re: Gaza since Jimmy seems to think he’s the “peace candidate.” Hope he takes questions from the audience (and also that no right-wing or zionist nutcase with 1,000 AR-15s barges in and kills us all).

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 13 2023 19:16 utc | 207

How self-righteous Jeffrey StClair at Counterpunch accurately describes the hypocrisy:
Only Israel is allowed to act in “self-defense.” It is a term reserved for the powerful, a shield against the daily acts of violence, coercion, land theft, illegal detention and economic strangulation imposed on a captive population, whose own self-defense is termed “terrorism” and thus becomes yet another justification for inflicting more overwhelming state violence–what any rational person would call “terrorism”–on impoverished and largely defenseless people.
Funny, then, that he can’t see the same was taking place in the Donbass region of Ukraine. Did the Ukro-Nazi government NOT deem them “terrorists” from the very first day, with US backing? Were they NOT defending themselves? Were they NOT being cleansed from their land? Was what the Ukro-Nazi government with US help doing not more akin to terrorism than the people of Donbass defending themselves after protesting a fascist coup?
Oh, PS: I’m going to see Jimmy Dore tonight in Houston. I think I’m going to bring up RFK Jr’s bloodthirsty rhetoric re: Gaza since Jimmy seems to think he’s the “peace candidate.” Hope he takes questions from the audience (and also that no right-wing or zionist nutcase with 1,000 AR-15s barges in and kills us all).

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 13 2023 19:16 utc | 208

The towns and kibbutzim attacked are illegal settlements (recognized as such internationally), populated by settlers who are armed (and often attack). Hamas claims it was not in a position to distinguish between armed enemies and non-combatants, and blames the settlers for bringing non-combatants into a war zone.
Posted by: Johny Z | Oct 13 2023 16:15 utc | 10
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I saw it somewhere om MSM that the armed settlers living in the illegal kibbutz (formally Palestinian property) in the West Bank, which are growing by leaps and bounds, and therefore are closer and closer to the Palestinian villages, have been taking pot shots at the Palestinians on average three times a day for the last year.

Posted by: Ed | Oct 13 2023 19:17 utc | 209

The towns and kibbutzim attacked are illegal settlements (recognized as such internationally), populated by settlers who are armed (and often attack). Hamas claims it was not in a position to distinguish between armed enemies and non-combatants, and blames the settlers for bringing non-combatants into a war zone.
Posted by: Johny Z | Oct 13 2023 16:15 utc | 10
—————————————————————-
I saw it somewhere om MSM that the armed settlers living in the illegal kibbutz (formally Palestinian property) in the West Bank, which are growing by leaps and bounds, and therefore are closer and closer to the Palestinian villages, have been taking pot shots at the Palestinians on average three times a day for the last year.

Posted by: Ed | Oct 13 2023 19:17 utc | 210

@ Karloff 41 Russia looks after it’s own interests.
The idea it would attack US carriers is risible.
Manpower is on Palestine, Hezb. Syria etc side, but military stocks and productive capacity for war materiel is very limited.
Only Iran has production depth and relative physical isolation, good air defense.
Israel is at the wrong end of a very long logistics trail.
Hezb. btw would do what they did before – embrace the enemy in their operational field. Cf. Hamas intentions.
Nobody – without exception – will benefit from an extended conflict.
The opposite is true.
This creates the conditions, if Mid East big men (Saud and Iran) step up, to implement the outstanding UN resolution, kick the Israelis out of the stolen gaza offshore gas fields, and finally create conditions for an enduring peace in the middle east.
Is Biden smart enough to get on that train once it starts rolling? Russia will be on it. In the first class carriage.
So if Biden delays, he will either be in the caboose or left standing lonely at the station playform.

Posted by: Powerandpeople | Oct 13 2023 19:21 utc | 211

@ Karloff 41 Russia looks after it’s own interests.
The idea it would attack US carriers is risible.
Manpower is on Palestine, Hezb. Syria etc side, but military stocks and productive capacity for war materiel is very limited.
Only Iran has production depth and relative physical isolation, good air defense.
Israel is at the wrong end of a very long logistics trail.
Hezb. btw would do what they did before – embrace the enemy in their operational field. Cf. Hamas intentions.
Nobody – without exception – will benefit from an extended conflict.
The opposite is true.
This creates the conditions, if Mid East big men (Saud and Iran) step up, to implement the outstanding UN resolution, kick the Israelis out of the stolen gaza offshore gas fields, and finally create conditions for an enduring peace in the middle east.
Is Biden smart enough to get on that train once it starts rolling? Russia will be on it. In the first class carriage.
So if Biden delays, he will either be in the caboose or left standing lonely at the station playform.

Posted by: Powerandpeople | Oct 13 2023 19:21 utc | 212

RE: Christian J Chuba | Oct 13 2023 16:03 utc | 2
I cannot reach Fars News either. Evil is closing in.

Posted by: Figleaf23 | Oct 13 2023 19:24 utc | 213

RE: Christian J Chuba | Oct 13 2023 16:03 utc | 2
I cannot reach Fars News either. Evil is closing in.

Posted by: Figleaf23 | Oct 13 2023 19:24 utc | 214

In six days, Israel has dropped 6,000 bombs on the besieged coastal enclave, which is home to 2.3 million Palestinians. Half of them are children. This falls just short of the highest number of bombs dropped by the US in a year in the war on Afghanistan.
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Sky News: “What about those Palestinians who are in hospital on life support & babies in incubators that will have to be turned off because Israelis have cut the power to Gaza?”
Ex-Israeli PM Naftali Bennett: “Are you seriously asking me about Palestinian civilians? What’s wrong with you?”
https://twitter.com/SaulStaniforth/status/1712497344376111346

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 13 2023 19:24 utc | 215

In six days, Israel has dropped 6,000 bombs on the besieged coastal enclave, which is home to 2.3 million Palestinians. Half of them are children. This falls just short of the highest number of bombs dropped by the US in a year in the war on Afghanistan.
————————————————————–
Sky News: “What about those Palestinians who are in hospital on life support & babies in incubators that will have to be turned off because Israelis have cut the power to Gaza?”
Ex-Israeli PM Naftali Bennett: “Are you seriously asking me about Palestinian civilians? What’s wrong with you?”
https://twitter.com/SaulStaniforth/status/1712497344376111346

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 13 2023 19:24 utc | 216

Why would US/Israel listen to Russia Iran Saud now?
Because oil can be sold at different prices on contract to different countries.
Low for some, high for others.
Nett, the big 3 make the same income on similar volume.
Russia applies pressure to areas of greatest sensitivity.
For the US…well it’s obvious.

Posted by: Powerandpeople | Oct 13 2023 19:28 utc | 217

Why would US/Israel listen to Russia Iran Saud now?
Because oil can be sold at different prices on contract to different countries.
Low for some, high for others.
Nett, the big 3 make the same income on similar volume.
Russia applies pressure to areas of greatest sensitivity.
For the US…well it’s obvious.

Posted by: Powerandpeople | Oct 13 2023 19:28 utc | 218

Reality;
Israel postpones evacuation of hospital in Gaza to 6 A.M. according to Doctors Without Borders.
“Israeli forces have now postponed the demand to evacuate Al Awda Hospital in the Gaza Strip until 6 A.M. The evacuation of patients remains complicated,” updated Doctors Without Borders.
Doctors Without Borders previously reported that Israel gave them two hours to evacuate the hospital saying “Our staff are still treating patients. MSF unequivocally condemns this action, the continued indiscriminate bloodshed and attacks on health care in Gaza,” the organization said, adding “we are trying to protect our staff and patients.”

(Haaretz)

Posted by: Stonebird | Oct 13 2023 19:33 utc | 219

Reality;
Israel postpones evacuation of hospital in Gaza to 6 A.M. according to Doctors Without Borders.
“Israeli forces have now postponed the demand to evacuate Al Awda Hospital in the Gaza Strip until 6 A.M. The evacuation of patients remains complicated,” updated Doctors Without Borders.
Doctors Without Borders previously reported that Israel gave them two hours to evacuate the hospital saying “Our staff are still treating patients. MSF unequivocally condemns this action, the continued indiscriminate bloodshed and attacks on health care in Gaza,” the organization said, adding “we are trying to protect our staff and patients.”

(Haaretz)

Posted by: Stonebird | Oct 13 2023 19:33 utc | 220

anonymous | Oct 13 2023 19:08 utc | 101 “The import of the event can’t be rationally described, and what it means for the future is too dark to contemplate for any great length of time”
That simply means few have read history and are aware of the great turbulence that often accompanies the changing of era’s. Gaza may well go through some exceptional nasty times in the days and weeks ahead likely worse than what Yemen went through.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 13 2023 19:38 utc | 221

anonymous | Oct 13 2023 19:08 utc | 101 “The import of the event can’t be rationally described, and what it means for the future is too dark to contemplate for any great length of time”
That simply means few have read history and are aware of the great turbulence that often accompanies the changing of era’s. Gaza may well go through some exceptional nasty times in the days and weeks ahead likely worse than what Yemen went through.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 13 2023 19:38 utc | 222

Earlier this year, Ronen Bar, the head of Israel’s domestic intelligence service, Shin Bet, warned Netanyahu that violent attacks on Palestinians by Israeli settlers were going to threaten Israel’s security. His warnings were dismissed and he was fiercely denounced by members of Netanyahu’s Likud Party in the Knesset for being too woke. One of them griped: “The ideology of the Left has reached the upper echelons of Shin Bet. The Deep State has infiltrated Shin Bet and the IDF.”

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 13 2023 19:38 utc | 223

Earlier this year, Ronen Bar, the head of Israel’s domestic intelligence service, Shin Bet, warned Netanyahu that violent attacks on Palestinians by Israeli settlers were going to threaten Israel’s security. His warnings were dismissed and he was fiercely denounced by members of Netanyahu’s Likud Party in the Knesset for being too woke. One of them griped: “The ideology of the Left has reached the upper echelons of Shin Bet. The Deep State has infiltrated Shin Bet and the IDF.”

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 13 2023 19:38 utc | 224

Although I am reluctant to inform Western citizens about the events taking place in Palestine, due to their lack of knowledge of the world beyond their comfort zones, some still have critical thinking.
This is what is happening from the point of view of the Hamas channel:
https://t.me/hamas/11055
It is a Telegram account (Who doesn’t have it?) that can be set up anonymously and that allows free translation from Arabic to English (other languages, too):
.

Posted by: Momo | Oct 13 2023 19:45 utc | 225

Although I am reluctant to inform Western citizens about the events taking place in Palestine, due to their lack of knowledge of the world beyond their comfort zones, some still have critical thinking.
This is what is happening from the point of view of the Hamas channel:
https://t.me/hamas/11055
It is a Telegram account (Who doesn’t have it?) that can be set up anonymously and that allows free translation from Arabic to English (other languages, too):
.

Posted by: Momo | Oct 13 2023 19:45 utc | 226

Please give the source to this statement: “Another reason for Hamas’ success was the fact that three of the four infantry battalions, with 800 soldiers each, that usually guard the Gaza strip, had been moved to the West Bank to protect right-wing Zionist settlers during a religious holiday. This allowed for Hamas’ easy breach of the fence.”
I first heard about this in a recent episode of the Darkhorse podcast, in which Bret Weinstein interviews an independent journalist, an israeli, who previously served in IDF and helped guarding the Gaza border. She said that a big part of the army guarding Gaza had been pulled away just days before the attack.

Posted by: Bengt | Oct 13 2023 19:47 utc | 227

Please give the source to this statement: “Another reason for Hamas’ success was the fact that three of the four infantry battalions, with 800 soldiers each, that usually guard the Gaza strip, had been moved to the West Bank to protect right-wing Zionist settlers during a religious holiday. This allowed for Hamas’ easy breach of the fence.”
I first heard about this in a recent episode of the Darkhorse podcast, in which Bret Weinstein interviews an independent journalist, an israeli, who previously served in IDF and helped guarding the Gaza border. She said that a big part of the army guarding Gaza had been pulled away just days before the attack.

Posted by: Bengt | Oct 13 2023 19:47 utc | 228

This is a joke right? The Ashkenazi being the good Jews and the Mizrahi the bad ones? The Ashkenazi being the liberals and the Mizrahi the hardliners? It was the Ashkenazi who formed Israel, it is the Ashkenazi who infiltrated the West and got the West to support Israel. It was the Ashkenazi who started the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians. The Ashkenazi are the majority of Jews, probably some 90% of the Jewish population. All Jews support Israel and the extermination of the natives of Palestine. The few who don’t are the exception which proves the rule.

Posted by: gT | Oct 13 2023 19:47 utc | 229

This is a joke right? The Ashkenazi being the good Jews and the Mizrahi the bad ones? The Ashkenazi being the liberals and the Mizrahi the hardliners? It was the Ashkenazi who formed Israel, it is the Ashkenazi who infiltrated the West and got the West to support Israel. It was the Ashkenazi who started the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians. The Ashkenazi are the majority of Jews, probably some 90% of the Jewish population. All Jews support Israel and the extermination of the natives of Palestine. The few who don’t are the exception which proves the rule.

Posted by: gT | Oct 13 2023 19:47 utc | 230

Perhaps everyone needs to step back and look at the whole “jewish” project as a narcissistic cult in which there is a narcissistic core group using the larger periphery as its proxies. The manipulation of reality, relationships and resources is typical, as is the total disregard for those in its way. And the Samson Option threat of nuclear annihilation if it comes under existential threat is pure narcissistic crap.
They have captured western politics, intelligence, law enforcement, media and finance. Military I am not so sure about but with their hand up the back of the others it barely matters.
I weep for the Palestinians, and pray that when this is over the narcissists are forever dead and buried. More power to the righteous.

Posted by: eagle eye | Oct 13 2023 19:50 utc | 231

Perhaps everyone needs to step back and look at the whole “jewish” project as a narcissistic cult in which there is a narcissistic core group using the larger periphery as its proxies. The manipulation of reality, relationships and resources is typical, as is the total disregard for those in its way. And the Samson Option threat of nuclear annihilation if it comes under existential threat is pure narcissistic crap.
They have captured western politics, intelligence, law enforcement, media and finance. Military I am not so sure about but with their hand up the back of the others it barely matters.
I weep for the Palestinians, and pray that when this is over the narcissists are forever dead and buried. More power to the righteous.

Posted by: eagle eye | Oct 13 2023 19:50 utc | 232

Biden sent $6 billion of other people’s money to Hamas, laundered through Iran.
Biden sent $8 billion of other people’s money directly to Israel.
When asked to explain, Biden said Israel’s “consulting contract, not a bribe” with Hunter was for a bigger amount.
Unelected bureaucrats from non-existent “governments” like UN, IMF, and the EU want to remind everyone who bought a “I stand with Ukraine” t-shirt to race out and buy “I stand with Israel” or “I stand with Palestine” t-shirts. Everyone keeps yelling about the injured civilians, and no one stops to think about all the pretend bureaucrats who don’t get a share of the bribe money. Fake bureaucrats are the real victims!!!

Posted by: War is Profit | Oct 13 2023 19:51 utc | 233

Biden sent $6 billion of other people’s money to Hamas, laundered through Iran.
Biden sent $8 billion of other people’s money directly to Israel.
When asked to explain, Biden said Israel’s “consulting contract, not a bribe” with Hunter was for a bigger amount.
Unelected bureaucrats from non-existent “governments” like UN, IMF, and the EU want to remind everyone who bought a “I stand with Ukraine” t-shirt to race out and buy “I stand with Israel” or “I stand with Palestine” t-shirts. Everyone keeps yelling about the injured civilians, and no one stops to think about all the pretend bureaucrats who don’t get a share of the bribe money. Fake bureaucrats are the real victims!!!

Posted by: War is Profit | Oct 13 2023 19:51 utc | 234

Posted by: gT | Oct 13 2023 19:47 utc | 116
You missed the point, which is the *current* political alignment in Israel. I’m pretty sure Bibi himself is Ashkenazi, but his party and large portion of the illegal settler community is Mizrahi.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 13 2023 20:02 utc | 235

Posted by: gT | Oct 13 2023 19:47 utc | 116
You missed the point, which is the *current* political alignment in Israel. I’m pretty sure Bibi himself is Ashkenazi, but his party and large portion of the illegal settler community is Mizrahi.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 13 2023 20:02 utc | 236

I’m sorry, but Meyssan writes a contextual explanation about this issue:
https://www.voltairenet.org/article219777.html
The context is necessary to explain the conflict. And he explains it with accuracy
.

Posted by: Momo | Oct 13 2023 20:03 utc | 237

I’m sorry, but Meyssan writes a contextual explanation about this issue:
https://www.voltairenet.org/article219777.html
The context is necessary to explain the conflict. And he explains it with accuracy
.

Posted by: Momo | Oct 13 2023 20:03 utc | 238

“There is by the way no archaeologic evidence, none, that a Jewish ‘Temple’ ever existed in Jerusalem.”
That makes sense. Jesus is quoted as saying that the temple would be utterly destroyed and that “not one stone would be left standing upon another”. Emperor Titus scraped it clean.
The Rabbis like to pretend that the Wailing Wall is the foundation of the old Jerusalem temple. But it is not, and every jewish scholar knows it. It is the remains of Fort Antonia named after Mark Antony.
More about temples in “The Temples Jerusalem Forgot” by Ernest L. Martin.

Posted by: davide | Oct 13 2023 20:05 utc | 239

“There is by the way no archaeologic evidence, none, that a Jewish ‘Temple’ ever existed in Jerusalem.”
That makes sense. Jesus is quoted as saying that the temple would be utterly destroyed and that “not one stone would be left standing upon another”. Emperor Titus scraped it clean.
The Rabbis like to pretend that the Wailing Wall is the foundation of the old Jerusalem temple. But it is not, and every jewish scholar knows it. It is the remains of Fort Antonia named after Mark Antony.
More about temples in “The Temples Jerusalem Forgot” by Ernest L. Martin.

Posted by: davide | Oct 13 2023 20:05 utc | 240

The problem isn’t Palestine or Palestinians or Israel or Jews. The problem is The Terrorists.
Who are The Terrorists?
1) Hamas (which exists to promote hatred of Hews) and
2) those within Israel who teach or practice hatred of Muslims.
Solution:
1) Hamas should be destroyed, Gaza re-occupied by Israel, and
2) radical “settlers” within Israel imprisoned.

Posted by: Deplorable Dave | Oct 13 2023 20:06 utc | 241

The problem isn’t Palestine or Palestinians or Israel or Jews. The problem is The Terrorists.
Who are The Terrorists?
1) Hamas (which exists to promote hatred of Hews) and
2) those within Israel who teach or practice hatred of Muslims.
Solution:
1) Hamas should be destroyed, Gaza re-occupied by Israel, and
2) radical “settlers” within Israel imprisoned.

Posted by: Deplorable Dave | Oct 13 2023 20:06 utc | 242

Posted by: Deplorable Dave | Oct 13 2023 20:06 utc | 123
LOL.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 13 2023 20:07 utc | 243

Posted by: Deplorable Dave | Oct 13 2023 20:06 utc | 123
LOL.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 13 2023 20:07 utc | 244

There will be a settlement. After some (or a lot more) blood letting this is the best chance in many years for settlement. Russia will be a key player in the settlement.
Israel wont invade Gaza. They have mobilized sufficient forces to hug Gaza turning the battle into a conventional fight. Then Gaza will be stabbed dozens of times with a short bladed knife. Any other way and the IDF will get a lot of it’s people killed for not purpose. When the energy is spent and the blood spilled. It may be possible for settlement or at least real movement toward settlement.
I don’t think Hezbbolla will attack. If Isreal really is mobilizing 350k-400k men, they will have enough force to deal with all fronts. The downside is that they wont have more than a few months. Maybe the real risk is that Israel attacks north pre-emptively. Or maybe the force is just there to freeze the northern front.
I think the split in Israel is real. That is the reason for the whole Judicial reform thing. The “progressive” wing of Israeli politics loses at the ballot box and uses the courts to nullify the ballot box and save democracy. Sounds familiar. Maybe we will see a lot of the westernized party Israeli’s leave Israel.
Here’s my prediction:
There will be terrible war. Then whomever speaks for Islam will grant Jews a portion of the empty courts around the Dome of the Rock to build a temple. In exchange, religious jews will support the formation of some sort of Palestinian state. Other arab states will be persuaded/compelled to help and give up o viewing Palestinian refugees as an asset but rather see them as a problem to be finally solved. There will be some powerful sponsor here that manages to gain the confidence of both extremes.
3 1/2 years later, the accord will be broken. This will lead to disaster for Israel and then disaster for the world and then something wonderful will happen.

Posted by: danf51 | Oct 13 2023 20:08 utc | 245

There will be a settlement. After some (or a lot more) blood letting this is the best chance in many years for settlement. Russia will be a key player in the settlement.
Israel wont invade Gaza. They have mobilized sufficient forces to hug Gaza turning the battle into a conventional fight. Then Gaza will be stabbed dozens of times with a short bladed knife. Any other way and the IDF will get a lot of it’s people killed for not purpose. When the energy is spent and the blood spilled. It may be possible for settlement or at least real movement toward settlement.
I don’t think Hezbbolla will attack. If Isreal really is mobilizing 350k-400k men, they will have enough force to deal with all fronts. The downside is that they wont have more than a few months. Maybe the real risk is that Israel attacks north pre-emptively. Or maybe the force is just there to freeze the northern front.
I think the split in Israel is real. That is the reason for the whole Judicial reform thing. The “progressive” wing of Israeli politics loses at the ballot box and uses the courts to nullify the ballot box and save democracy. Sounds familiar. Maybe we will see a lot of the westernized party Israeli’s leave Israel.
Here’s my prediction:
There will be terrible war. Then whomever speaks for Islam will grant Jews a portion of the empty courts around the Dome of the Rock to build a temple. In exchange, religious jews will support the formation of some sort of Palestinian state. Other arab states will be persuaded/compelled to help and give up o viewing Palestinian refugees as an asset but rather see them as a problem to be finally solved. There will be some powerful sponsor here that manages to gain the confidence of both extremes.
3 1/2 years later, the accord will be broken. This will lead to disaster for Israel and then disaster for the world and then something wonderful will happen.

Posted by: danf51 | Oct 13 2023 20:08 utc | 246

russian garrison in Syria is not protected by much more than a implicit threat of nuclear escalation that american élite may well believe to be hollow now.

It’s anti-logic. ‘So far, I have not been stung by bees when I kick their nest, therefore bees will not sting.’
And then inverts the responsibility on the bees – don’t they know that to be taken seriously they have to sting on every provocation? You are blaming the bees for the stupidity and hubris of the dumb fucks kicking the nest.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Oct 13 2023 20:09 utc | 247

russian garrison in Syria is not protected by much more than a implicit threat of nuclear escalation that american élite may well believe to be hollow now.

It’s anti-logic. ‘So far, I have not been stung by bees when I kick their nest, therefore bees will not sting.’
And then inverts the responsibility on the bees – don’t they know that to be taken seriously they have to sting on every provocation? You are blaming the bees for the stupidity and hubris of the dumb fucks kicking the nest.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Oct 13 2023 20:09 utc | 248

https://t.me/hamas/10998
🔺 بالفيديو
مشاهد من تعامل مجاهدي المقاومة الاسلامية مع الأطفال خلال المعارك في كيبوتس “حوليت” في اليوم الأول من عملية #طوفان_الأقصى
Scenes from how the Mujahideen of the Islamic Resistance dealt with children during the battles in Kibbutz “Holeit” on the first day of Operation #Al-Aqsa_Flood

Posted by: Momo | Oct 13 2023 20:10 utc | 249

https://t.me/hamas/10998
🔺 بالفيديو
مشاهد من تعامل مجاهدي المقاومة الاسلامية مع الأطفال خلال المعارك في كيبوتس “حوليت” في اليوم الأول من عملية #طوفان_الأقصى
Scenes from how the Mujahideen of the Islamic Resistance dealt with children during the battles in Kibbutz “Holeit” on the first day of Operation #Al-Aqsa_Flood

Posted by: Momo | Oct 13 2023 20:10 utc | 250

3 1/2 years later, the accord will be broken.

Imagine if people put as much effort into consideration and thinking as they do blindly following superstition. The fucking Abrahamic religions are desert death cults. We should have stuck with Zoroaster.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Oct 13 2023 20:15 utc | 251

3 1/2 years later, the accord will be broken.

Imagine if people put as much effort into consideration and thinking as they do blindly following superstition. The fucking Abrahamic religions are desert death cults. We should have stuck with Zoroaster.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Oct 13 2023 20:15 utc | 252

b triggered | Oct 13 2023 19:59 utc | 119
Ignorant Conflation
Israel destroys itself and historically it only exists by a random decree by English Empireists and illegal disenfranchisement of an existing indigenous population of mixed religions and ethnicities living in peaceful cooperative coexistence until Israel’s imposed creation. It has blossomed into the evil which spawned it. Israel is NOT Judaism. Israel has become an apartheid tyrant and lusts after more and more to be taken from the existing populations and the neighbors via the hands of violence which it visits on them.

Posted by: DoesItReallyMatter | Oct 13 2023 20:18 utc | 253

b triggered | Oct 13 2023 19:59 utc | 119
Ignorant Conflation
Israel destroys itself and historically it only exists by a random decree by English Empireists and illegal disenfranchisement of an existing indigenous population of mixed religions and ethnicities living in peaceful cooperative coexistence until Israel’s imposed creation. It has blossomed into the evil which spawned it. Israel is NOT Judaism. Israel has become an apartheid tyrant and lusts after more and more to be taken from the existing populations and the neighbors via the hands of violence which it visits on them.

Posted by: DoesItReallyMatter | Oct 13 2023 20:18 utc | 254

Danf5 @ 125
What ever your smoking you need to give it up.

Posted by: Mark2 | Oct 13 2023 20:19 utc | 255

Danf5 @ 125
What ever your smoking you need to give it up.

Posted by: Mark2 | Oct 13 2023 20:19 utc | 256

The war in Ukraine lasted until we ran out of “I stand with Ukraine” t-shirts.
The war in Gaza will not ebb until we sell more “I stand with Palestine” and “I stand with Israel” t-shirts. We still have lots of both remaining to sell.
Stop pretending like anyone cares about the people involved. Its about t-shirt sales, bribes and kickbacks.

Posted by: War is Profit | Oct 13 2023 20:20 utc | 257

The war in Ukraine lasted until we ran out of “I stand with Ukraine” t-shirts.
The war in Gaza will not ebb until we sell more “I stand with Palestine” and “I stand with Israel” t-shirts. We still have lots of both remaining to sell.
Stop pretending like anyone cares about the people involved. Its about t-shirt sales, bribes and kickbacks.

Posted by: War is Profit | Oct 13 2023 20:20 utc | 258

danf51 | Oct 13 2023 20:08 utc | 125
“Then whomever speaks for Islam will grant Jews a portion of the empty courts around the Dome of the Rock to build a temple.”
That tallies pretty closely with the deal the Antichrist is supposed to make with the Jews.

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Oct 13 2023 20:21 utc | 259

danf51 | Oct 13 2023 20:08 utc | 125
“Then whomever speaks for Islam will grant Jews a portion of the empty courts around the Dome of the Rock to build a temple.”
That tallies pretty closely with the deal the Antichrist is supposed to make with the Jews.

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Oct 13 2023 20:21 utc | 260

“ That simply means few have read history and are aware of the great turbulence that often accompanies the changing of era’s. Gaza may well go through some exceptional nasty times in the days and weeks ahead likely worse than what Yemen went through.”
2.3 million people never died in a matter of weeks in an extermination camp in Yemen or really anywhere in this manner in memory you smirking spineless minimizer.

Posted by: anonymous | Oct 13 2023 20:22 utc | 261

“ That simply means few have read history and are aware of the great turbulence that often accompanies the changing of era’s. Gaza may well go through some exceptional nasty times in the days and weeks ahead likely worse than what Yemen went through.”
2.3 million people never died in a matter of weeks in an extermination camp in Yemen or really anywhere in this manner in memory you smirking spineless minimizer.

Posted by: anonymous | Oct 13 2023 20:22 utc | 262

@ scanalyse | Oct 13 2023 16:50 utc | 36
thanks for the links..
@ Michael | Oct 13 2023 17:12 utc | 48
thanks michael… i am not on TG… if you post on skyscript, i would converse with you over the astro details… cheers james

Posted by: james | Oct 13 2023 20:23 utc | 263

@ scanalyse | Oct 13 2023 16:50 utc | 36
thanks for the links..
@ Michael | Oct 13 2023 17:12 utc | 48
thanks michael… i am not on TG… if you post on skyscript, i would converse with you over the astro details… cheers james

Posted by: james | Oct 13 2023 20:23 utc | 264

wait !
Something told me that I had read this somewhere before:
b wrote:

Another reason for Hamas’ success was the fact that three of the four infantry battalions, with 800 soldiers each, that usually guard the Gaza strip, had been moved to the West Bank to protect right-wing Zionist settlers during a religious holiday. This allowed for Hamas’ easy breach of the fence.

It was regarding September 11th. A military exercise in the US on that fateful had depleted air cover.

Posted by: librul | Oct 13 2023 20:24 utc | 265

wait !
Something told me that I had read this somewhere before:
b wrote:

Another reason for Hamas’ success was the fact that three of the four infantry battalions, with 800 soldiers each, that usually guard the Gaza strip, had been moved to the West Bank to protect right-wing Zionist settlers during a religious holiday. This allowed for Hamas’ easy breach of the fence.

It was regarding September 11th. A military exercise in the US on that fateful had depleted air cover.

Posted by: librul | Oct 13 2023 20:24 utc | 266

The problem isn’t Palestine or Palestinians or Israel or Jews. The problem is The Terrorists.
Posted by: Deplorable Dave | Oct 13 2023 20:06 utc | 123

Westerners before the invasion of Iraq: the problem is the terrorists.
Westerners before the invasion of Afghanistan: the problem is the terrorists.
Westerners before the invasion of and attacks on Libya, Syria, Yemen: the problem is the terrorists.
Manipulated so easily and without grace are the most propagandized populations on Earth. A herd of cattle braying for blood.

Posted by: warxism | Oct 13 2023 20:26 utc | 267

The problem isn’t Palestine or Palestinians or Israel or Jews. The problem is The Terrorists.
Posted by: Deplorable Dave | Oct 13 2023 20:06 utc | 123

Westerners before the invasion of Iraq: the problem is the terrorists.
Westerners before the invasion of Afghanistan: the problem is the terrorists.
Westerners before the invasion of and attacks on Libya, Syria, Yemen: the problem is the terrorists.
Manipulated so easily and without grace are the most propagandized populations on Earth. A herd of cattle braying for blood.

Posted by: warxism | Oct 13 2023 20:26 utc | 268

An interesting thread. Tower of Babel comes to mind.
If this were a real bar it would be an interesting scene. Bibles, Qurans skull caps, tin foil hat wearers smoking hooch and spaceships hovering above the arguing crowd.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 13 2023 20:26 utc | 269

An interesting thread. Tower of Babel comes to mind.
If this were a real bar it would be an interesting scene. Bibles, Qurans skull caps, tin foil hat wearers smoking hooch and spaceships hovering above the arguing crowd.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 13 2023 20:26 utc | 270

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 13 2023 19:16 utc | 105
i thought he had split with RFK jr. if he hasn’t im looking forward to you reporting back. He certainly doesn’t favor Israel in this conflict.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I92hhImgxVA

Posted by: pretzelattack | Oct 13 2023 20:26 utc | 271

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 13 2023 19:16 utc | 105
i thought he had split with RFK jr. if he hasn’t im looking forward to you reporting back. He certainly doesn’t favor Israel in this conflict.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I92hhImgxVA

Posted by: pretzelattack | Oct 13 2023 20:26 utc | 272

UNCONFIRMED RUMOR: an Israeli helicopter carrying at least 50 soldiers has been destroyed by either Hezbolla or Syrian forces in the North.
True or not. Todays modern war is no joke

Posted by: Comandante | Oct 13 2023 20:28 utc | 273

UNCONFIRMED RUMOR: an Israeli helicopter carrying at least 50 soldiers has been destroyed by either Hezbolla or Syrian forces in the North.
True or not. Todays modern war is no joke

Posted by: Comandante | Oct 13 2023 20:28 utc | 274

Thank you to our host for this space.
Peace to Palestine.

Posted by: furies | Oct 13 2023 20:28 utc | 275

Thank you to our host for this space.
Peace to Palestine.

Posted by: furies | Oct 13 2023 20:28 utc | 276

anonymous | Oct 13 2023 20:22 utc | 133
Do you have a link for those numbers or is your imagination running free.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 13 2023 20:30 utc | 277

anonymous | Oct 13 2023 20:22 utc | 133
Do you have a link for those numbers or is your imagination running free.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 13 2023 20:30 utc | 278

1. Can anyone get to ‘Fars news’ https://www.farsnews.ir/en/ ?
I cannot and I want to know if their domain was revoked and how to access it now.
Posted by: Christian J Chuba | Oct 13 2023 16:03 utc | 2
No.

Posted by: Tichy | Oct 13 2023 20:32 utc | 279

1. Can anyone get to ‘Fars news’ https://www.farsnews.ir/en/ ?
I cannot and I want to know if their domain was revoked and how to access it now.
Posted by: Christian J Chuba | Oct 13 2023 16:03 utc | 2
No.

Posted by: Tichy | Oct 13 2023 20:32 utc | 280

Peter, I’ll stoop to answer you: 2.3 million is the population of Gaza, and unless you think they’re super-humans who can survive without water or food (I suspect you think rather the opposite), most of them will die if this goes on as it is for much longer, with neither essentials nor escape.

Posted by: anonymous | Oct 13 2023 20:34 utc | 281

Peter, I’ll stoop to answer you: 2.3 million is the population of Gaza, and unless you think they’re super-humans who can survive without water or food (I suspect you think rather the opposite), most of them will die if this goes on as it is for much longer, with neither essentials nor escape.

Posted by: anonymous | Oct 13 2023 20:34 utc | 282

Many civilian victims:
https://t.me/hamas/6378
https://t.me/hamas/6987
A mess.
.

Posted by: Momo | Oct 13 2023 20:34 utc | 283

Many civilian victims:
https://t.me/hamas/6378
https://t.me/hamas/6987
A mess.
.

Posted by: Momo | Oct 13 2023 20:34 utc | 284

@Posted by: librul | Oct 13 2023 20:24 utc | 135
Don’t forget that the IDF had enabled the kidnapping of Israeli border soldiers
by standing down the military in that border sector. This was the trigger for
the 2006 invasion of Lebanon by Israel.
An attempted kidnapping had just failed at the same small sector of the border
just weeks before. The IDF was all over that sector like bees on a honey-hungry bear.
Then, suddenly, the IDF stood down. The IDF would later explain their “mistake”.
In the middle of all the IDF activity the IDF “decided” to inexplicably replace
the intelligence officer that knew that sector. The replacement, according to the
Israelis, “didn’t understand the intelligence information he was seeing”.
He “misinterpreted” and the IDF stood down.

Posted by: librul | Oct 13 2023 20:35 utc | 285

@Posted by: librul | Oct 13 2023 20:24 utc | 135
Don’t forget that the IDF had enabled the kidnapping of Israeli border soldiers
by standing down the military in that border sector. This was the trigger for
the 2006 invasion of Lebanon by Israel.
An attempted kidnapping had just failed at the same small sector of the border
just weeks before. The IDF was all over that sector like bees on a honey-hungry bear.
Then, suddenly, the IDF stood down. The IDF would later explain their “mistake”.
In the middle of all the IDF activity the IDF “decided” to inexplicably replace
the intelligence officer that knew that sector. The replacement, according to the
Israelis, “didn’t understand the intelligence information he was seeing”.
He “misinterpreted” and the IDF stood down.

Posted by: librul | Oct 13 2023 20:35 utc | 286

If no one will buy my “I stand with …” t-shirts, how am I supposed to live just on investments in weapons manufacturers?

Posted by: War is Profit | Oct 13 2023 20:36 utc | 287

If no one will buy my “I stand with …” t-shirts, how am I supposed to live just on investments in weapons manufacturers?

Posted by: War is Profit | Oct 13 2023 20:36 utc | 288

anonymous | Oct 13 2023 20:34 utc | 143
By your reply you have admitted that those numbers are figment of your freely running imagination.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 13 2023 20:37 utc | 289

anonymous | Oct 13 2023 20:34 utc | 143
By your reply you have admitted that those numbers are figment of your freely running imagination.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 13 2023 20:37 utc | 290

I’ll add, Peter, that in all the posts I’ve read of yours over the years, you’ve struck me as an aging German in the worst ways.

Posted by: anonymous | Oct 13 2023 20:37 utc | 291

I’ll add, Peter, that in all the posts I’ve read of yours over the years, you’ve struck me as an aging German in the worst ways.

Posted by: anonymous | Oct 13 2023 20:37 utc | 292

Re the Gaza siege. these are perhaps the most important words to keep in mind..
“”We are now looking, even in the United States there are assessments of what is happening, there are various options for the development of events, including the fact that military and non-military measures can be taken against the Gaza Strip in the same way as during the siege of Leningrad during World War II. We understand what this is all about. In my opinion, this is unacceptable, ”
That means that plans will be underway to ensure a Leningrad siege situation does not occur.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 13 2023 20:41 utc | 293

Re the Gaza siege. these are perhaps the most important words to keep in mind..
“”We are now looking, even in the United States there are assessments of what is happening, there are various options for the development of events, including the fact that military and non-military measures can be taken against the Gaza Strip in the same way as during the siege of Leningrad during World War II. We understand what this is all about. In my opinion, this is unacceptable, ”
That means that plans will be underway to ensure a Leningrad siege situation does not occur.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 13 2023 20:41 utc | 294

best interview, insight into Gaza, fighting skills etc.
With Mouin Rabbani and Antony Loewenstein
https://archives.kpfa.org/data/20231012-Thu1100.mp3

Posted by: Kim Sky | Oct 13 2023 20:41 utc | 295

best interview, insight into Gaza, fighting skills etc.
With Mouin Rabbani and Antony Loewenstein
https://archives.kpfa.org/data/20231012-Thu1100.mp3

Posted by: Kim Sky | Oct 13 2023 20:41 utc | 296

Hamas joined the Syrian war against the government. That was an Israeli project.
Instead of helping the resistance and hezbollah. If you want to destroy Israel, just tell the sunni people that Israeli are Shia. This is all the consequences of sleeping with the devil all these years.

Posted by: Cbftyping | Oct 13 2023 20:44 utc | 297

Hamas joined the Syrian war against the government. That was an Israeli project.
Instead of helping the resistance and hezbollah. If you want to destroy Israel, just tell the sunni people that Israeli are Shia. This is all the consequences of sleeping with the devil all these years.

Posted by: Cbftyping | Oct 13 2023 20:44 utc | 298

When does the 24hr ultimatum officially expire?

Posted by: Patroklos | Oct 13 2023 20:44 utc | 299

When does the 24hr ultimatum officially expire?

Posted by: Patroklos | Oct 13 2023 20:44 utc | 300