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October 08, 2023

The MoA Week In Review - (Not Ukraine) OT 2023-232

Last week's post on Moon of Alabama:

> The recurrence of the conflict shows once again that the protracted standstill of the peace process cannot go on. The fundamental way out of the conflict lies in implementing the two-state solution and establishing an independent State of Palestine. <

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Other issues:

Nazis:

Chinese chips:

> Industry sources told CSIS that U.S. companies were losing revenue not as a direct result of no longer selling to Huawei, but rather because Huawei was replacing U.S. chips with their own self-designed versions.
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The United States has incurred essentially all of the costs of an aggressive export control policy toward China, but it has done so in a way that does not provide all the potential strategic benefits of actually constraining China’s future technological capabilities. <

Spooks:

Use as open (not Ukraine related) thread ...

Posted by b on October 8, 2023 at 11:36 UTC | Permalink

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As a Dutchie (who once applied for a job at the family archives of our Royal Family), I'm not really surprised to see the membership card of prince Bernhard. I would like to see this in perspective however as I have a feeling most if not all of the medium to high German nobility became members of the Nazi party at the same time. I happily stand corrected however. Also, if he actually gave up membership or not. You probably won't find that so easily outside the family's archive I think. Lots of other interesting things in that family archive that are kept out of view as the archivist told me at the time. The guy who published this was at one time also a Royal Family archivist and you can't publish stuff from that archive without the owner, the monarch, giving permission.

Posted by: NaomiClareNL | Oct 8 2023 11:56 utc | 1

Well, what do you know! Refuse to sell chips, lose money! Our leaders in the US are so dumb.

Posted by: lester | Oct 8 2023 13:32 utc | 2

The US has a satellite picture of a train sitting in a North Korean railway station near Russia. The article published by the CSIS does not say which organisation provided the sat pic.

Posted by: Passerby | Oct 8 2023 14:11 utc | 3

Secy. Raimondo et al. seem to rhink Chinese people are stupid and cannot invent things. Of course, the history of science in China is full of creative inventions. But Raimondo has not read SCIENCE AND CIVILISATION IN CHINA by Joseph Needham and others.

The history of science and technology in the US is full of thefts and borrowings, from the power loom to the magnetron. Moreover, we've alway imported our Einsteins and Teslas, instead of training them at home.

The level of science education in the US is such that millions have recently decided the earth is flat!

Posted by: lester | Oct 8 2023 15:09 utc | 4

The United States has incurred essentially all of the costs of an aggressive export control policy toward China, but it has done so in a way that does not provide all the potential strategic benefits of actually constraining China’s future technological capabilities.

You have to laugh. One might have said the same of Europe and its sanctions against Russia. Worldwide, ignorant managers with no understanding of the institutions they run or their meaning have used government and bureaucracies to climb into decision-making positions. From the local council, department of education and university to the White House, brain farts by morons have been implemented under the ideological imperative of efficiencies and corporate rationalization.

But these people are idiots. The only conspiracy theory is the total decline of a senile civilization that has decided to hand over the future of its professional cadres to 25-yr old marketing grads on the assumption that controlling appearances is the only thing that matters. So goddam depressing.

Posted by: Patroklos | Oct 8 2023 17:23 utc | 5

Doesn't the panic over Chinese chip technology remind you of the panic over Sputnik and Soviet technology? Back then, the US government tried to promote science and math education in primary and middle schools. It has largely failed.

Posted by: lester | Oct 8 2023 17:30 utc | 6

spitting and passports in the eye of the "Al-Aqsa storm operation"

Israeli settlers storm Al-Aqsa Mosque complex on fifth day of Sukkot, 4 Oct STIGMA

[...]
Meanwhile, Israeli police on Wednesday arrested five people suspected of spitting towards Christians or churches in the Old City of Jerusalem and formed a special investigative team to deal with growing complaints of hostile gestures against Christians.

“Unfortunately, we witness the continued disgraceful acts of hatred towards Christians in the Old City of Jerusalem, primarily through spitting by extremists,” said Jerusalem District Commander Doron Turgeman on Wednesday. Members of the area’s small Christian community have said they have faced growing harassment and intimidation from Jewish ultranationalists, particularly since Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s hard-right government took office late last year.
[...]

Hamas may have Russian hostages – Israel, 8 Oct

...“The number of hostages is high. But we don’t have exact data yet. Many people mention a number of around 100. Everyone is assessing the situation now,” the envoy said. A number of Russian nationals may have ended up in Palestinian captivity, Ben Zvi suggested, adding that there was no concrete data on the matter as of yet....
That's a pretty craven ploy for sympathy, "aid," and, ahem, security guarantees, considering how many passports any one "Israeli" collects, while Israel segregates Palestinian-American travelers' eligibility for Blinken's NEW! Abraham Accords Visa Waiver Program
...Israel has pushed for years to secure visa-free entry for its citizens to the U.S., a privilege enjoyed by 40 countries, mostly in Europe and Asia. But that request has been thwarted over the U.S. government’s demand that the country provide equal treatment at its borders to all American citizens, including Palestinian Americans, who are often barred from entering the country through Israel's Ben-Gurion airport. Instead, those traveling to the occupied West Bank or the Gaza Strip must enter via neighboring Jordan or Egypt. Other Americans of Arab origin or Muslim faith say they’ve suffered similar restrictions, as well as U.S. citizens with political views Israel finds objectionable.
[...]
The Israeli statement avoided mention of the word Palestinians, but said the protocol would allow entry to “every single American, including Americans with dual nationality, American residents of Judea and Samaria" — the biblical terms for the occupied West Bank — “and American residents of the Gaza Strip.”
What a coincidence!

Posted by: sln2002 | Oct 8 2023 17:31 utc | 7


Watershed day, Palestine comments running ten to one Ukraine comment

Ukraine News wrap your fish in it.

Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Oct 8 2023 17:53 utc | 8

Not paying to read Taibbi. Lol fuck that guy and his paywall. I've bought all his books

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 8 2023 18:06 utc | 9

I've had a hard time in the midst of so much discussion of what is happening in Israel thinking through such hardship as Palistinian natives have incurred -- so I won't be approaching the subject this Sunday in a dispassionate way. I see what karlof1 has been saying in his comments here and on his substack, that a return to the two state solution isn't viable - you make good points, karlof1.

Casting around myself, I came upon the following, and my apologies for not paying attention to it when it was more current. It has helped me envision a solution which I'll propose in my next comment.

https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/2023/03/27/gaza-family-remembers-us-peace-activist-rachel-corrie-20-years-after-her-death/

Posted by: juliania | Oct 8 2023 18:34 utc | 10

Because I think presently in terms of Putin's Valdai speech and his definition of state-civilizations, I propose the following for a new Palestinian state, that the two entities now in conflict be combined into a single one much as did those in South Africa, with a similar reconciliation process. I recognize this won't result in perfection, as it hasn't in that nation, but some form of adaptation of the measures used then seems to me the only solution that has the promise of eventual win-win for all parties involved, and in particular for ordinary people.

In my previous comment I provided a link which seemed to focus where that focus ought to be --- on families. And assuredly the divisions are huge, and justice hard to come by, even impossible. But so was it in South Africa, so was it between Russia and its Chechnyan citizens. So is it now between Ukrainians, Koreans, and so on. What happens to multipolarity in these cases? Wouldn't they all profit by merging? Especially in such cases when it is families themselves being torn apart.

Families often incorporate within their own 'boundaries' others with whom they have differences -- if they are healthy families they do. If they are healthy states, as Russia and China now are --- they do. I love the photos in the link above. And I'll say again, something there is that does not love a wall. I know, I'm a dreamer. That was my dairy farmer uncle's name for me as a child -- Dreamer. Long before John Lennon ;)

Posted by: juliania | Oct 8 2023 18:57 utc | 11

@ juliania | Oct 8 2023 18:34 utc | 10
"...such hardship as Palistinian natives have incurred..."

I just saw that before retiring for the night.
Is the word 'incurred' what you were meaning to say?
I think 'endured' is more accurate.

Some 10 years ago Israeli peace activist Jeff Halper was here in Tromsø, a sister city to Gaza City,
for our annual film festival, which that year focused on the situation there. In discussion after a
short film he convincingly made the case that the two-state concept was dead. I agree with that.

Thanks for your post @ 18:57 utc | 11. A tough deal all around. G'nite.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Oct 8 2023 19:18 utc | 12

@SwissArmyMan | Oct 8 2023 17:53 utc | 8
This is one of the reasons I like this bar so much. You can feel direct the change of awareness.
I think their are forces who act now, to escalate any theatre around the globe. All of them together in the same time will make the hegemon fall.
I expect more different topic related open threads soon.

Posted by: rico rose | Oct 8 2023 19:55 utc | 13

Just a reminder that Prince Bernhardt served as an SS officer, as well.

But more relevant to my mind: he was also a key founder of both the WWFund and Bilderberg, right alongside England’s Prince Philip, who was raised in an openly Nazi family.

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Oct 8 2023 20:03 utc | 14

PCR latest:
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2023/10/08/will-there-be-a-2024-presidential-election/

How can the FBI permit such a deadly threat to America, as the FBI declares Trump and his supporters to be, to win the election? How can an army of domestic terrorists be allowed to vote Trump into office? The FBI has equated Trump’s election with an insurrection, that is, with the overthrow of the government.

This would seem to commit the FBI to preventing Trump’s election, and the FBI is applying “counterterrorism methods developed over the past decade in response to Al-Qaeda and other Islamist groups” to Trump supporters. In other words, the FBI doesn’t differentiate between Trump and his supporters and Muslin terrorists.

It is reasonable to conclude that if the Democrats’ political prosecutions of Trump fail to prevent him from running for president, the Biden regime will declare a national emergency and suspend the election.

Biden’s Homeland Security also equates Trump supporters with “the use of violence to pursue political ends” and “a threat to our national security.”

Attorney General Garland says “attacks by domestic terrorists are attacks on all of us collectively.” What attacks is Garland talking about? The ones the FBI is about to orchestrate?

It is clear that the Biden regime and security agencies regard half or more of the US electorate as domestic terrorists. In other words, the FBI is now a political police, no longer a criminal police. The FBI and Homeland Security are geared to protecting Washington from the American electorate. Attorney General Garland has made it clear that the “Justice” Department will validate whatever unconstitutional methods are used.

The position of the FBI and Homeland Security is that if you disagree with an official narrative, you are a domestic terrorist.

I do not believe that Trump will be permitted to be President. If he wins, it will be said that he lost, or he will be assassinated, or a state of emergency will be declared. The Establishment will do whatever it takes to keep Trump out of the White House.

I think that the Democrats and their security agencies are demonstrating their Nazi inclinations for no real purpose. If Trump regains the White House, he still doesn’t have the government. Who can he appoint to help him? Who are they? Those who helped him in the past, such as his lawyers, are all indicted by a black woman in Fulton County, Georgia. If Trump is reelected, it will be a repeat of his first term–constant accusations against him repeated endlessly by the presstitutes, constant investigations, more impeachments. Any cabinet secretary who helps him will be a social outcast. His career will be over.

When white Americans themselves are demonized as “aversive racists” and “white supremacists” in US universities and public schools and are investigated by the FBI for protesting the brainwashing of their children at school board meetings, what can anyone do?

Insouciant Americans have been asleep for too long, and they have lost their country. How are they going to get it back?

Consider that those who vote Democrat actually believe that the other half of the electorate are dangerous white supremacist domestic terrorists. They believe this despite the absence of any buildings blown up by Trump supporters, by the absence of assassinations, by the absence of rioting and looting as practiced by the Democrats’ agents, Black Lives Matter and Antifa. Democrats are so indoctrinated that they believe the propaganda in the absence of evidence.

The wedge that has been so successfully driven between Americans makes white people a minority in their own country. They are so divided that they cannot defend themselves or the Constitution that is the shield of their liberty.

Now that the FBI has declared the 85 million Americans who twice elected Trump president to be domestic terrorists, the FBI will have to organize some domestic terrorists events, like it had to organize Muslim terrorist events, in order to validate its proclamation of domestic terrorism from Trump supporters. Will federal agents blow up buildings, stage rioting and looting events, and assassinate Democrats in order to incriminate Trump supporters? Is this the playbook for the Democrats to win the next election?

What do we make of Hillary Clinton’s statement that Trump supporters have to be officially deprogrammed? Are we being set up for reeducation camps?

In America today, all of this is possible.

Have emboldened the part which especially agree with. Which also raised the question: why is Trump running? He knows all this? Is it theater? No matter what transpires, things are going to be getting much, much worse. No good outcomes.

He also published another today about the increased risk of nuclear war. No good geopolitical outcomes either, at least until NATO is demilitarized.

Looks to me like, as the Ukraine front becomes a stand-off (unless RF invades much further) that the Middle East might now become the next front providing headaches for the emerging Eurasia bloc resisting the Hegemon. This will stress the Iran-Saudi rapprochement and thus also Shia-Sunni fault lines, which in turn will test Russia-China's influence and/or military commitment levels if this escalates. Maybe something in the Central Asian -stans next?

Apparently some of the weaponry abandoned in Afghanistan is now being used by Hamas and Hezbollah. Maybe... Plus the six billion Biden gave Iran last month probably is coming in handy... (Set up anyone?)

I stopped reading stories about Izzylandia years ago (can only handle so much ugliness), just like no longer read about vaccines or derivatives etc., and am not going to start again now, but do see the flurry of headlines. That said, it remains to be seen if this is as big a deal as many are now making of it.

Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 8 2023 20:14 utc | 15

Out at Scheerpost, John Kiriakou asks a question which has already occurred to me:

Is the Intercept a Deep State Success Story?

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Oct 8 2023 20:58 utc | 16

@Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 8 2023 18:06 utc | 9

Not paying to read Taibbi. Lol fuck that guy and his paywall. I've bought all his books

Taibbi's analysis is that of the bourgeois progressive, like the early 20th century progressive movement. Basically striving to "Make Liberalism Great Again" - MaLGA. I got rapidly bored with his analyses as he hardly goes beyond the surface phenomena, he has no interest in the real capitalist dynamics and oligarchs that control the US.

Posted by: Roger | Oct 8 2023 21:20 utc | 17

Thanks, waynorinorway | Oct 8 2023 19:18 utc | 12

Yes, endured.

Posted by: juliania | Oct 8 2023 21:29 utc | 18

lester @2

China annually imports more chips than oil in hundreds of billions $$$.

Now U$A government and its CHIP4 alliance (US, Japan, Korean TW) forbids American, Korean and Japanese companies as well as TSMC to sell 7nm and other leading edge chips to China, despite the fact that about 50% of world chips were sold to China.

U$A also forbids Dutch ASML to sell any machine advanced lithography machines to Chinese chip makers.

After Huawei's breakthrough in 7nm with its Matepro 60, Dutch government suddenly decided to extende the export license of DUV machine for ASML till December instead of September 2023.

CEO of ASML once claimed that China couldn't have been able to make the lithography machines even if ASML had given the design drawings to Chinese manufacturers. Now he starts to complain Chinese manufacturers could be "bad" for the market: the price of ASML machines with price tag of hundreds of millions $$$ will have to drop.

This just shows what kind of "true market and competition" they believe in:

- When the Western companies can monoply the industry, they'd ehthusiastically support "open market,free competition".

- When local companies can manufacture the products, the Western companies would drastically drop their high priced products so as to kill their local competitors with dumping prices.

- If this still can not kill their competitors, the Western companies would use all sorts of political power and media influence, sometimes including gunboat, to crash their competitors, for example, US' Chip Acts, EU's investigation of China's EV industry.

Posted by: lulu | Oct 8 2023 21:48 utc | 19

lester @ 4
Commerce Secretary Raimondo said Huawei's chip breakthrough “incredibly disturbing”.

"Incredibly disturbing", that's how the Empire views the tech advancement of other countries.

Posted by: lulu | Oct 8 2023 22:02 utc | 20

sln2002 @ 7:

That Ben Zvi cannot provide actual data might suggest he knows no more about the people held hostage than you or I or anyone else here at MoA might know. What proportion of those Russian-speaking hostages might actually be Ukrainians with dual Israeli-Ukrainian citizenship? (Might some of those people be living in Israel to escape being drafted into the AFU?)

One would be curious to know the demographics of the Russian-speaking community in Israel, where they mostly live and how many of them would be prepared to pile into a van with their favourite herbs to go all the way to the border with Gaza to attend a trance music festival being held a few kilometres away from the separation wall. (What were the organisers thinking anyway?)

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Oct 8 2023 22:13 utc | 21

Pacifica Advocate @14

Dalai Lama's best friend and English teacher was SS Nazi Heinrich Harrer.

Also his court happily welcomed Himmler's 5-memeber Nazi expepedition team to Tibet in 1938. Even wrote a blessing letter to Hitler.

The ruling elites are birds of a feather, I guess.

Posted by: lulu | Oct 8 2023 22:20 utc | 22

Today I would like to share a fairly obscure account of cosmogonic creation, or genesis, here with you, the one given by the persian prophet Mani (216-77) who founded a true Weltreligion, one of four (as they say) known to mankind. Unlike the other teachings, the Manichean church was eradicated from the face of the earth, down the last disciple (who were located all the way between Spain and Japan, with their centres mostly along the silk road, today in Uzbekistan) , and all of the original scriptures. Mani himself wrote seven books, of which one was dedicated to his contemporary Bardesanes (of Damascus), an influential scientist at his time - that alone tells you a lot about Manis approach towards his teaching. Mani spoke and wrote aramaic, though he is credited with a reform of persian scripture, among other inventions. One of his books contained only illustrations (made by himself), and he carried this one on him at all times, using it in conversations and showing it to the illiterate. He had a fairly good working relation with Shapur I., the first of the Sassanids (225ff), but eventually the older Zoroastrian state religion was favoured, and Mani died in prison after being convicted for plotting to "dissolve the universe". As we shall see, that verdict is true.

I realize this is going to be lengthy, but there is really not much of a choice in presenting this subject. One of the reasons for this is current state of scientific reconstruction of the teachings, made possible about 100 years ago when remnants of scripture were found at the rim of the Gobi desert next to the cracked skulls of the last surviving believers, whose traces are lost about 1200AD. Later more scriptures were discovered, at Nag Hamadi and, curiously, in a Köln (Cologne)library. None of them were writings by Mani himself, and the whole field is thusly skewed towards the views of opponents, among them one Augustinus, who had actually been a Manichean himself before working for roman christianity. I have to admit that I do not trust him, and shall give evidence by pointing out the famous, yet in fact sophistic trickster-style argument in favour for a "just war", where the war has already broken out according to the premise.


Such shenanigans are irritatingly common in the literature on Manichaeism, which is suspect. The more solid scientic works are generally linguistic or historical in nature, while no reearcher of note in all of academy tries to understand the emrging body of the teachings at face value, i.e. philosophically, or (more specific) theologically. Full disclaimer: I have been closely working with a guy who really dug into the whole affair, spending many years learning everything about it that he could, including study of aramaic and middle persian language at our local university. We met many of the more influential academics there over time, and gradually he became the best of themn, at least within the german-speaking field. He doesn't publish, though. My own understanding is based on what was gathered in the many conversations with him, while we were trying to shape our conceptions together; with some success as it seems, made possible in large part because we could rely on Edmund Husserls phenomenology (a most radical and stringent philosophy that has an unhappy history, on which I expanded during the Heidegger debate earlier this year at MoA).

But now on to the meat of it.

Manis narration is that of a "universe" of three times, happening in succession. At first, there is a realm of pure light, where god is basically throwing a party with his guests, created in his own image, but also (technically) unmade, as we simply cannot constitute our existence as other than being many, i.e. among others. The party escalated, and the befuddled Sophia somehow managed to fall into a formless, absolute non-thing (Ungestalt/aoristos dyas), devoid of any light [possibly = nous], the single god-quality that there is, think sentience, mind, awareness, consciousness, and perhaps Buddha-Nature.

Catastrophe ensues. The original darkness, hitherto unknown in the realm of light, suddenly appears, already intermingled with light, and thus now capable of noesis (awareness) itself. The Ungestalt longs for the light that was previously unknown to them, and it tries to gain possession over it. - This idea is a more abstract successor to the classical dualist persian theology, where Ahriman ("angry mind") and Ahura Mazda slug it out between them. The concept allows resolving of the problem of the evil in this world, something that monotheist thought isn't capable of [Leibniz' Theodizee].

So in the "second time" there is an intermingling of darkness and light, in a confined zone we may term the cosmos, itself being included (a part of) something larger, the realm of light that transcends cosmos as a meta-cosmos, where, as I assume, the party is still in full motion. But god and his friends do miss us, just as we are missing them, and whole business of time is about the process of separation of darkness and light. Apparently, we have volunteered to go into zone of the catastrophe to remediate the situation by throwing us against and into the Ungestalt, which reduces our noetic cohesion - basically smashing us into loosely connected dots, confined to or even trappped in our bodies within time and space, and making us forgetful (अविद्या) about our true origin, our mission down here, and our Buddha-Nature.

The good news is that, in the end, we will get ot of here. Mani even gives a number 8just short of 1,500) years until the process of separation, akin to a destillation (and evidently the metaphorical deeper meaning behind the handshake gesture), is complete. The cosmos then has turned into a cold and dark ball, and is discarded into a prepared ditch. At this point, darkness has been banned for good, and the festivity resumes in full splendour. We are to be given medals of commendation for our pains, Mani promised. And that's it, then.


How did he know? He says that he was approached by his "heavenly twin" (even god has one, and it's Thomas) with the task to convey the full picture, after earlier attempts by other prophets failed to do so. Mani recognizes them, and claims to be promised by Jesus return of, well, Jesus I guess; not being sure here. Another lead into this kind of experience might - I stress that it is a speculation - be related to the effects of the halucinogenic substance DMT, which Mani had (in principle) access to. There's also an anecdote where our prophet visits an oligarch, who brags to him with his gardens, asking him if the gardens of light are of the same beauty. Mani responds by offering him a drink, to good effect and satisfaction of the oligarch, who reportedly retains a lasting and favorable memoir of the experience.

Posted by: persiflo | Oct 8 2023 22:33 utc | 23

Don't know whether someone has already post it: Evergrande's chairman was detained due to financial crimes.

Xu Jiayin, chairman of real estate developer Evergrande, and staff of its shadow bank were detained for financial crimes.

The local and central governments had given him and Evergrande grace period since 2021 to restructure Evergrande’s massive debts and to finish its pre-sale resident buildings to protect the rights of the house buyers.

Instead Xu Jiayin secretly diverted his assets by “technically divorcing” his wife so as to transferring the hundreds of billions to her (in US) and setting up an overseas trust worthy of billions for his son.

He probably had hoped the government to bail him out because Evergrande was “too big to fail”, while he could still hold on his billions. Now he has to face the justice and prison.

This should wake up other Chinese real estate developers who are dreaming of bailouts, à la 2008 U$A government bailouts.

Posted by: lulu | Oct 8 2023 23:03 utc | 24

Comment by Don Bacon | October 06, 2023

Landing US troops on the island of Taiwan would be very hard. I doubt the US would have command of the sea or air. And where would the US troops come from? S. Korea is the closest place.

If our leaders are really dumb, they might try to persuade S. Korea and Japan to send troops. No one has forgotten Japan's last invasion.

Posted by: lester | Oct 8 2023 23:44 utc | 25

Posted by: lulu | Oct 8 2023 23:03

I would not be surprised if Mr. Xu were to become an ancestor pretty soon. Maybe his widow will get the traditional bill for the bullet.

Posted by: lester | Oct 8 2023 23:48 utc | 26

Teachers / educators despair.[Australia is adopting U$ education models, so…]
Meanwhile, China and Russia prize education.

https://www.youtube.com/source/6Dce21mMKFk/shorts

Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 8 2023 23:58 utc | 27

Posted by: lulu | Oct 8 2023 23:03

The last remaining Manichaean shrine is in Quanzhou, Fujian Province, China.

https://www.44whcfuzhou2021.cn/node/13608/20210719/60f530709f605.shtml

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cao%27an

Posted by: lester | Oct 9 2023 0:38 utc | 28

-US, a nato country bombs the gas pipe of Germany, a nato country
-Finland joins nato
-Finland-Estonia gas pipe was "damaged" this weekend and will "stay closed for months", but the owning gas company promises that there will be (american) gas through the new floating LNG terminal

Can't make this stuff up.

Posted by: Michael A | Oct 9 2023 7:51 utc | 29

just take the opportunity to read "The General s Son" by Miko Peled. He himself a son of an honoured famous israeli general tells you the story of his personar way and saga from poor jewish victim to a friend of Palestine.
The bottom line is naturally that NO ONE can ever call him antisemitic.

Posted by: augusto | Oct 9 2023 10:00 utc | 30

Concerning the observation that Europe also acts against their own interest.
I claim that this illustrates something the current ruling oligarchy has in common with that of Venice from which the western elites have inherited the business model and the mindset.
Namely that like Venice, the oligarchy sticks together for what they assume is in the best interest for the oligarchy as a whole.
I assume this is strongly correllated with whatever maintains US dominance.
Venice like the US/UK didnt produce much but gained parasitic profits from the ongoing trade.
Though they apparently did have the largest workshop in the world for putting together galleys.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Oct 9 2023 15:50 utc | 31

New biolab report, damning as ever.

🇷🇺👉🇺🇸🏴‍☠️ Briefing by Chief of Nuclear, Chemical, and Biological Protection Troops of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation Lieutenant General Igor Kirillov on the U.S. military-biological activity

Full text 📄: https://telegra.ph/Briefing-by-Chief-of-Nuclear-Chemical-and-Biological-Protection-Troops-of-the-Armed-Forces-of-the-Russian-Federation-Lieutenant--10-09
Telegraph
Briefing by Chief of Nuclear, Chemical, and Biological Protection Troops of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation Lieutenant…
The Russian Defence Ministry continues the analysis of U.S. military biological activity on the territory of Ukraine and other states. As we pointed out before, under the pretence of support to develop national healthcare systems efforts on countering bioterrorism…

Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 9 2023 17:36 utc | 32

"Venice like the US/UK didnt produce much but gained parasitic profits from the ongoing trade" Posted by: petergrfstrm

Venice produced a lot of first-rate musice, paintings and architecture, far more than the USA. The arts are what matter in the long run.

Posted by: lester | Oct 9 2023 21:50 utc | 33

If Jews control Wall St. And central banks, why did Wall St. Bankers finance Hitler's military buildup?

Why were they sitting on the board of the most important German industries like I.G. Farben (and most others) even during WW2?

Why did Hitler gather up ambassadors of international finance capital to fund his electoral campaign?

Why were international capitalists meeting with Hitler as far back as the early 20's?

Why did global central banks (BIS) continue to work with, finance, and collect payments from Nazis during WW2?

Why did the Nazis continue to pay international central banks the debt that the City of London artificially propped up in the 1920's? Weren't the Nazis campaigning against war reparations? Why did they continue to pay them in a new, disguised form?

Why were the two biggest financial capitalist families in America - Morgan's and Rockefellers, non-Jewish? What were they doing working with the Nazis? Why were all the German industrial cartels that funded the Nazis startups propped up by JP Morgan and Wall St.?

Why didn't the allies open up a second front? Wasn't defeating Hitler Britain's number one goal? Why didn't they help the Soviets do it?

Why did the Bank of England willingly transfer all of Czechslovakia's gold to the Nazis?

Why was the Soviet Union the only country to warn about Hitler's destructive intentions? Why did Britain and France appease Hitler while rejecting all attempts by the Soviets to form security pacts against rising German aggression?

If the Jews controlled England, surely they would have done everything to stop Hitler!

Why is it that in the postwar period, the card carrying Nazi German captains of industry maintained all their wealth and power?

Why did Nazi officials retain positions of political power in West Germany, and why were so many welcomed into NATO's commanding positions?

Why did the Reischsbank retain all power and privileges in the postwar period?

If "the Jews" were so powerful, why were they powerless to prevent this?

Here is the truth: International banksters propped up Hitler to loot the Soviet Union's wealth, and use it to finance their New World Order.

Their plan was to keep 90% of the world in colonial slavery, and return serfdom for the European and American working classes.

And were it not for the heroic Soviet Union, Klaus Shwab and Bill Gate's dreams would have come true nearly 80 years early.

We all know that there are wealthy and powerful Jews among the international ruling class. But the facts are conclusive beyond doubt: They are a minority.

So who are those attacking and singling out Jews truly serving? Ask yourself that question.

There is a reason none of the rightists will debate me on this topic. The Right are not original and independent thinkers. None of their research was conducted independently.

I do not believe they are pushing this ideology independently.

Here is the likely truth:

Wealthy benefactors with Nazi sympathies, who likely have direct ties to German Nazism itself historically, created the modern "Dissident Right" as we know it.

And who knows how far the connections back to the real elites these benefactors go!

From: https://twitter.com/InfraHaz/status/1699553009812869422

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 10 2023 0:47 utc | 34

@ Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 10 2023 0:47 utc | 33 with the questions that I think should be directed to Pope Frank and King Chuck and the inherited elite of the God Of Mammon cult.

I think the International banksters you referred to are the the financial face of the Pope Frank, King Chuck and others cult defined above.

If any war is going to bring the rulers of the West out from behind the curtain, the civilization war that I see growing before us may do that deed because "they" can't hide behind the bankers or the politicians when they are taken down and have to negotiate settlements.

The winners decide whether derivatives without skin in the game are valid financial instruments.......

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 10 2023 1:04 utc | 35

RFKjr announced he'll run as Third Party candidate, saying:

“We declare independence from the two political parties and the corrupt interests that dominate them and the entire rigged system… that have turned government officials into indentured servants for their corporate bosses.”

Sounds more like Ralph Nader than Trump or Sanders.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 10 2023 2:11 utc | 36

Does anyone remember Chiang Kai-shek's attempts to invade the Mainland and how they failed? (No one wanted him back!) Here's a history of how CKS' proxy army in Burma turned into major drug smugglers! Just like in the good old days when CKS ruled China!

The SecretArmy, Chiang Kai-shek and the Drug Warlords of the Golden Triangle, by Richard Gibson and Chen Wenhua, Copyright © 2011 by John Wiley & Sons (Asia)

Posted by: lester | Oct 10 2023 3:26 utc | 37

Posted by: psychohistorian |

I don't know about other countries, but in the USA we have a LARGE body of Evangelical fanatics who want a Jewish state in order to bring Jesus back sometime soon, reward the fanatics, punish you and me, etc. AllJews die along the way, unless they become Christians. They number in the 10s of millions and vote, which means their leaders have mucho clout. Bush II's invasion of Iraq was intended to bring Jesus back; that's why there were no occupation plans!

Posted by: lester | Oct 10 2023 3:34 utc | 38

Below is a Xinhuanet posting link and quote

Xi meets U.S. congressional delegation

The quote

Senator Schumer and other members of the delegation expressed their delight to visit the beautiful country of China and their appreciation to the Chinese side for its hospitality, saying that during the visit, they have felt the vigor and potential of China's development.

They shared their views and suggestions on relevant issues in China-U.S. relations, noting that a stable U.S.-China relationship is of vital importance not only to the two countries, but also to world peace and development.

They said China's development and prosperity is good for the American people. The U.S. side does not seek a conflict with China, nor does it seek to decouple. The United States is willing to enhance dialogue and communication with China in an open and candid manner based on mutual respect, responsibly manage the bilateral relationship, and stabilize and strengthen U.S.-China relations.

The U.S. side looks forward to strengthening bilateral trade and investment cooperation with China, and increasing communication and cooperation on such issues as climate change, drug trafficking and regional conflicts, they said.

Wang Yi was present at the meeting.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 10 2023 6:16 utc | 39

Oil prices going up.
Finnish pipeline possibly sabotaged.
ZH: https://tinyurl.com/yojfwfxz

Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 10 2023 16:15 utc | 40

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 10 2023 6:16 utc | 39

Oh my, that is very nice. I am impressed. Not a word out of place.

Posted by: Bemildred | Oct 10 2023 16:36 utc | 41

@ Bemildred | Oct 10 2023 16:36 utc | 41 with the response to what the US Congress Critters said in their meeting with Xi....thanks

The optics of the visit, apart from the perfect words, is about who is going to have an audience with whom....think of the absurdity of the potential opposite of what just was reported....Biden would drool and have his new dog bite members of the Chinese contingent while he pontificates about the Rules Based Order.

I wonder if those perfect words by the US politicians are going to filter out to the US and Western public......Hmmmm

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 10 2023 17:02 utc | 42

Blessings to b for letting folks like me post things over here in the quiet corner of the bar

Below is the title of a ZH posting of interest (pun intended)

Bidenomics: National Debt Increases By Another Half-Trillion In Just 20 Days

The quote

On September 15, the debt quietly blew passed $33 trillion. On October 5, it pushed above $33.5 trillion.

By the way, it only took Biden and his willing accomplices in Congress three months to drive the national debt from $32 trillion to $33 trillion.

As of October 5, the debt stood at $33,513,382,512,663.51.

I see this as screaming to the RoW.....Come buy our debt so we can continue our rapacious ways because we are exceptional....at least the ones in control think they are.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 10 2023 17:22 utc | 43

Jow long before Biden perpetrates a false flag attack on Taiwawn, blaming the Mainland in order to start a war? Think of a Taiwans Straits Incident, like the Gulf of Tonking Incident. The latter was total fiction, but served to excuse a war "liberating" millions of Vietnamese people of their lives.

Posted by: lester | Oct 10 2023 17:45 utc | 44

Posted by: psychohistorian

Usually faction R raves about the deficit when out of the White House, discovers that "deficits don't matter - Reagan proved it" once back in the White House.

Posted by: lester | Oct 10 2023 17:52 utc | 45

Christians, funny term, strange people. I found out I wasn't one when I asked my wife to marry me.....save me.....perspective depending. She being raised Baptist, me not caring, when location came up, I said let's just get married in your church. Off we went, love in hand. Several minutes into our request, the Minister inquires of my faith, (sex drugs and rock n roll) I replied "Catholic." Now in my mind us Micks have a foot in the door, so the Minister's reply caught me off guard, stuck for words even, me a leprechaun......the Minister says to my wife, "sorry, can't marry you in here, you're future husband is not a Christian." Such gall! Stiffened my faith, in being a Catholic, following the word of Jesus, believing in one God, and treating my neighbours with respect.

Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Oct 10 2023 18:10 utc | 46

I wonder if those perfect words by the US politicians are going to filter out to the US and Western public......Hmmmm

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 10 2023 17:02 utc | 42

Thank you. What strikes me is they have better English than the English, and I would know. And the other thing is they know how to play the game, there in not a thing in there that can be used against them.

And of course it would be nice if it was true, if it could be so.

And the Chinese walk their talk.

Posted by: Bemildred | Oct 10 2023 18:19 utc | 47

Posted by: lester | Oct 10 2023 17:45 utc | 44:

The latter was total fiction, but served to excuse a war "liberating" millions of Vietnamese people of their lives.

lester, history doesn't always replicate itself. A Straits Incident, if or when it happens in the near or medium future, would result in liberation of tens of millions of lives, but most of them will be Americans or 51st staters in Taiwan, Japan, and Korea. Yes, there are 10's of millions of 51st staters in East Asia awaiting rapture. And, if large numbers of casualties are incurred in China mainland, an equal or larger number will incur on American Mainland too, not to mention the permanent eviction of Gringo assets (men, women, commercial, military assets, et al) from Pacific, west of the Date Line and NS of the Equator.

The Tonking Incident was a false flag for Gringos to pump its chest. A Strait Incident false flag would be karma for the first.

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Oct 10 2023 18:44 utc | 48

One difference between China and America that barflies here don't talk about much is the different approaches to infrastructure building and mobilization of large- scale missions to overcome difficulties of the two nations.

A large-scale war between the two will result in massive casualties and destruction of modern infrastructures. China has demonstrated time and again that it can efficiently move people away from disasters and rebuild disastrous damages quickly and effectively. The same cannot be said of America. The biggest war fear, besides loss of lives, is the shambles that result in difficulties of living to face even for those who survived. My opinion is that people of China are less in fear of the consequences of large scale wars than Americans.

I understand that nearly a quarter century after Katrina, New Orleans is still struggling with full restoration/reparation. Just one of many examples.

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Oct 10 2023 19:03 utc | 49

@ Oriental Voice | Oct 10 2023 19:03 utc | 49

Speaking of New Orleans: Thanks to drought and the Army Corps of Engineers’ dredging of the Mississippi River (to facilitate commerce, of course), the Gulf of Mexico is flowing backward into the delta and will have destroyed the city’s drinking water source by the end of the month.

Seems our leaders have decided that Nawlins isn’t dying fast enough.

Posted by: malenkov | Oct 10 2023 20:30 utc | 50

@malenkov, #50:

Yeah NO is the hub for US grain export. It goes to show how technically advanced we are! And the Big Ten countries, where the grains are grown and shipped down Mississippi are known for Civil Engineer expertise.

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Oct 10 2023 23:04 utc | 51

Congress critters in China. psychohistorian

Let us hope that Schumer and frienes do not infect their Trump escorts with their STDs!

Posted by: lester | Oct 11 2023 0:13 utc | 52

"...The Right are not original and independent thinkers. None of their research was conducted independently. I do not believe they are pushing this ideology independently..." Tom_Q_Collins@34

They would be betraying their own philosophy if they did attempt to think for themselves. The whole ethos of the sad set is to execute the orders of their superiors, the ruling class with whom they enjoy a sado masochistic relationship, relishing the injuries done to them by the father figures who they revere and savagely attacking those who disrespect the bosses anointed by providence.

I suspect that their hatred of 'cultural marxists' is a manifestation of their grudge against Adorno who exposed them just when they were warming up, under the leadership of their beloved Senator from Wisconsin, to a thorough purge of intellectuals who dared to think for themselves instead of serving the master.

Posted by: bevin | Oct 11 2023 0:16 utc | 53

Below is a link to a Xinhuanet posting that shows how much China is now outpacing the West in quantum computing

China's computational power gains new strength with 255-detected-photon quantum computer

The quote

According to the state-of-the-art exact classical simulation algorithm, "Jiuzhang 3.0" is a million times faster at solving GBS problems than its predecessor, "Jiuzhang 2.0." Moreover, the most complex samples of GBS that "Jiuzhang 3.0" can calculate in just one microsecond would take the world's fastest supercomputer, "Frontier," more than 20 billion years to complete.

Game Over, Hit Return To Continue!

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 11 2023 3:10 utc | 54

Russia Today has published an article, "Teacher and student brawl over Palestinian flag in Berlin" (Neukoelln). The details of the incident are not very interesting. What is noteworthy is press coverage.

One is left with the distinct impression Western press does not publish facts if the facts go against official policy.

Posted by: Passerby | Oct 11 2023 11:32 utc | 55

Ah, scrolling up, I see another wanderer. Forgive me, persiflo | Oct 8 2023 22:33 utc | 23. Especially if I have sounded like one who could understand what you have written. I'm not. But thank you, for thinking of me.

Posted by: juliania | Oct 14 2023 4:18 utc | 56

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