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October 29, 2023
Palestine Open Thread 2023-255

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Hundreds storm the Makhachkala Airport in Russia, reportedly searching for Jews https://rumble.com/v3sh8ae-hundreds-storm-the-makhachkala-airport-in-russia-reportedly-searching-for-j.html
Posted by: Dogon Priest | Oct 29 2023 20:45 utc | 170
Yes, to Jacob Dreizin that suggests that Russia had better beware of being too nice to Muslims and Hamas as Muslim extremism may come to haunt Russia itself again one day – maybe soon.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Oct 29 2023 22:19 utc | 401

Hundreds storm the Makhachkala Airport in Russia, reportedly searching for Jews https://rumble.com/v3sh8ae-hundreds-storm-the-makhachkala-airport-in-russia-reportedly-searching-for-j.html
Posted by: Dogon Priest | Oct 29 2023 20:45 utc | 170
Yes, to Jacob Dreizin that suggests that Russia had better beware of being too nice to Muslims and Hamas as Muslim extremism may come to haunt Russia itself again one day – maybe soon.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Oct 29 2023 22:19 utc | 402

Maybe posted previously, i dont’know, it is from yeasterday: anymay, with love, logic, and humility, Dr Gabor Maté put it softly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHDBw-wx6w0

Posted by: malamatias | Oct 29 2023 22:20 utc | 403

Maybe posted previously, i dont’know, it is from yeasterday: anymay, with love, logic, and humility, Dr Gabor Maté put it softly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHDBw-wx6w0

Posted by: malamatias | Oct 29 2023 22:20 utc | 404

@Jane
“What is AJE?”
Al Jazeera English
https://www.youtube.com/@aljazeeraenglish/videos

Posted by: Apollyon | Oct 29 2023 22:23 utc | 405

@Jane
“What is AJE?”
Al Jazeera English
https://www.youtube.com/@aljazeeraenglish/videos

Posted by: Apollyon | Oct 29 2023 22:23 utc | 406

Why Modern-Day Terrorism Was Invented By Zionists

The original Zionists didn’t believe God existed but they believed that God gave them the land of Israel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cdrBV4uqSA

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Oct 29 2023 22:26 utc | 407

Why Modern-Day Terrorism Was Invented By Zionists

The original Zionists didn’t believe God existed but they believed that God gave them the land of Israel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cdrBV4uqSA

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Oct 29 2023 22:26 utc | 408

As soon as Israel loses its human shields of Palestinians and Russian Jews, Khinzals will fly.
Imho Hizbullah is out.
Posted by: Giyane | Oct 29 2023 22:04 utc | 204
“Imho”
Everyone has an opinion, and everyone has an arsehole. In the vast majority of cases the the later is far more useful than the former.

Posted by: bubbles | Oct 29 2023 22:30 utc | 409

As soon as Israel loses its human shields of Palestinians and Russian Jews, Khinzals will fly.
Imho Hizbullah is out.
Posted by: Giyane | Oct 29 2023 22:04 utc | 204
“Imho”
Everyone has an opinion, and everyone has an arsehole. In the vast majority of cases the the later is far more useful than the former.

Posted by: bubbles | Oct 29 2023 22:30 utc | 410

Apollyon 37. A reductive, ignorant, stupid statement

Posted by: Lavieja | Oct 29 2023 22:35 utc | 411

Apollyon 37. A reductive, ignorant, stupid statement

Posted by: Lavieja | Oct 29 2023 22:35 utc | 412

Today’s Palestinian Arabs are not the originals. Land was given by the Ottoman Turks who ruled the area as far down to Saudi arabia.any of the absentee landlords were Egyptian army who had these immigrants from central Asia etc working the area. Stupid white men call them Palestinian Arabs.

Posted by: Hutch | Oct 29 2023 22:37 utc | 413

Today’s Palestinian Arabs are not the originals. Land was given by the Ottoman Turks who ruled the area as far down to Saudi arabia.any of the absentee landlords were Egyptian army who had these immigrants from central Asia etc working the area. Stupid white men call them Palestinian Arabs.

Posted by: Hutch | Oct 29 2023 22:37 utc | 414

@Lavieja
“A reductive, ignorant, stupid statement”
I hope they all die a slow and painful death.

Posted by: Apollyon | Oct 29 2023 22:38 utc | 415

@Lavieja
“A reductive, ignorant, stupid statement”
I hope they all die a slow and painful death.

Posted by: Apollyon | Oct 29 2023 22:38 utc | 416

The link again:
Finklestein/Hedges
Posted by: waynorinorway | Oct 29 2023 13:39 utc | 5
Thanks waynor this interview along with Gabor Mate’s most recent summarise the situation and truly underscore why it is false and counterproductive to condemn Hamas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHDBw-wx6w0&t=1968s
After 70 years of violent occupation to my mind the Palestinians should be praised for their incredible patience, so what if once in a while they strike back? No westerner of any country from the Evil Alliance can afford to cast the first stone or any stone at all. We should all be ashamed and judging by the protests erupting everywhere, more and more of us are.

Posted by: K | Oct 29 2023 22:43 utc | 417

The link again:
Finklestein/Hedges
Posted by: waynorinorway | Oct 29 2023 13:39 utc | 5
Thanks waynor this interview along with Gabor Mate’s most recent summarise the situation and truly underscore why it is false and counterproductive to condemn Hamas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHDBw-wx6w0&t=1968s
After 70 years of violent occupation to my mind the Palestinians should be praised for their incredible patience, so what if once in a while they strike back? No westerner of any country from the Evil Alliance can afford to cast the first stone or any stone at all. We should all be ashamed and judging by the protests erupting everywhere, more and more of us are.

Posted by: K | Oct 29 2023 22:43 utc | 418

Escape from Sibor. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at0DovU0DW0
Much mention of the Ukrainian guards. I guess that is not PC these days.
Zelensky actor president for Nazi’s. Israel embracing Nazi’s. Israel embracing Nazi tactics.
It is now very very easy to see why the poor downtrodden jews have been persecuted throughout history.
A small percentage are secular normal people, but a greater percentage can only look at the goys as subhumans to be used and abused.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 29 2023 22:55 utc | 419

Escape from Sibor. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at0DovU0DW0
Much mention of the Ukrainian guards. I guess that is not PC these days.
Zelensky actor president for Nazi’s. Israel embracing Nazi’s. Israel embracing Nazi tactics.
It is now very very easy to see why the poor downtrodden jews have been persecuted throughout history.
A small percentage are secular normal people, but a greater percentage can only look at the goys as subhumans to be used and abused.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 29 2023 22:55 utc | 420

211 bubbles
Yawn , bottom hole not top one

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 29 2023 22:56 utc | 421

211 bubbles
Yawn , bottom hole not top one

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 29 2023 22:56 utc | 422

Sibor….Sobibor.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 29 2023 22:56 utc | 423

Sibor….Sobibor.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 29 2023 22:56 utc | 424

CyberSpec TG Channel

Netanyahu:”You must remember what Amalek has done to you, says our Holy Bible”
1 Samuel 15:3
“Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass”
https://t.me/CyberspecNews/46238

That clip on the Cyberspec TG channel is taken from this press conference available on YouTube @1:54 (Oct 28, 2023)

Israel-Hamas war: ‘We will fight and we will win’, says Benjamin Netanyahu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5LmB6uup3o

The implication (to my mind) in undeniable and highlights the true intent regardless of how many times its denied.

… any body who dares accuse our troops of conducting war crimes are people who are completely hypocritical liers who don’t have an inkling of morality, the IDF is the most (??) ethical military in the world. It is doing everything it can in order to prevent harming those who are uninvolved …

The use of this Biblical quote almost seems strange to me for him (as a so called follower of the Judaic faith and a leader of a so called “Judaic nation”) to use the Bible to make a point. Why would he say this? Could it be that this line was directed at the US right wing evangelical movement, who share the Zionists determination to rebuild the 3rd Temple and so hasten a messianic return, and is therefore a way of letting them know how far he intends to go?

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Oct 29 2023 22:59 utc | 425

CyberSpec TG Channel

Netanyahu:”You must remember what Amalek has done to you, says our Holy Bible”
1 Samuel 15:3
“Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass”
https://t.me/CyberspecNews/46238

That clip on the Cyberspec TG channel is taken from this press conference available on YouTube @1:54 (Oct 28, 2023)

Israel-Hamas war: ‘We will fight and we will win’, says Benjamin Netanyahu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5LmB6uup3o

The implication (to my mind) in undeniable and highlights the true intent regardless of how many times its denied.

… any body who dares accuse our troops of conducting war crimes are people who are completely hypocritical liers who don’t have an inkling of morality, the IDF is the most (??) ethical military in the world. It is doing everything it can in order to prevent harming those who are uninvolved …

The use of this Biblical quote almost seems strange to me for him (as a so called follower of the Judaic faith and a leader of a so called “Judaic nation”) to use the Bible to make a point. Why would he say this? Could it be that this line was directed at the US right wing evangelical movement, who share the Zionists determination to rebuild the 3rd Temple and so hasten a messianic return, and is therefore a way of letting them know how far he intends to go?

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Oct 29 2023 22:59 utc | 426

Biden’s comments came as the White House asked Congress for more than $105 billion in a foreign aid. The request includes more than $14 billion for Israel and more than $9 billion for humanitarian aid for Israel, Gaza, Ukraine and other conflicts.
Biden says he has a commitment for aid to reach Gaza in the next 24 to 48 hours
We are at the height of absurdities. Herd them, feed them, and bomb them. How much of the 9 billion will go to Gaza relief? My dog treats people better.
Hutch | Oct 29 2023 22:37 utc | 213
That is up to question and debate even in this era of genome mapping…
When Ancient DNA Gets Politicized
The population of Palestine mostly is a mixed bag of people from nearby regions. The deeds from the Ottoman empire were recognized by the British. It is a long story.
Land Ownership in Palestine

Posted by: circumspect | Oct 29 2023 23:02 utc | 427

Biden’s comments came as the White House asked Congress for more than $105 billion in a foreign aid. The request includes more than $14 billion for Israel and more than $9 billion for humanitarian aid for Israel, Gaza, Ukraine and other conflicts.
Biden says he has a commitment for aid to reach Gaza in the next 24 to 48 hours
We are at the height of absurdities. Herd them, feed them, and bomb them. How much of the 9 billion will go to Gaza relief? My dog treats people better.
Hutch | Oct 29 2023 22:37 utc | 213
That is up to question and debate even in this era of genome mapping…
When Ancient DNA Gets Politicized
The population of Palestine mostly is a mixed bag of people from nearby regions. The deeds from the Ottoman empire were recognized by the British. It is a long story.
Land Ownership in Palestine

Posted by: circumspect | Oct 29 2023 23:02 utc | 428

SattaMassaGana | Oct 29 2023 22:59 utc | 219
Old testament. I assume most or all of what is in the old testament is also in the jewish scriptures.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 29 2023 23:03 utc | 429

SattaMassaGana | Oct 29 2023 22:59 utc | 219
Old testament. I assume most or all of what is in the old testament is also in the jewish scriptures.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 29 2023 23:03 utc | 430

The morals of war? The ethics and morals of those locked in a concentration camp – a ghetto…
An outbreak from a maximum security ghetto where all had known nothing but persecution… an outbreak lead by a highly trained militia group followed by many angry inmates of the ghetto.
I have watched the bouts and tournaments of a number of styles of martial arts in which there are rules and referrers. I have also watched the no rules, no referee cage fights. Everything goes, knees to the nuts, the works. Winner is the last man standing or until one clearly signals defeat.
War of survival is very much no rules cage fighting
Those with the luxury and time to think about philosophy of morals live in a different world to those fighting for their very existence.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 29 2023 22:18 utc | 206
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Yes. Exactly. And once again: Welcome back!

Posted by: malenkov | Oct 29 2023 23:09 utc | 431

The morals of war? The ethics and morals of those locked in a concentration camp – a ghetto…
An outbreak from a maximum security ghetto where all had known nothing but persecution… an outbreak lead by a highly trained militia group followed by many angry inmates of the ghetto.
I have watched the bouts and tournaments of a number of styles of martial arts in which there are rules and referrers. I have also watched the no rules, no referee cage fights. Everything goes, knees to the nuts, the works. Winner is the last man standing or until one clearly signals defeat.
War of survival is very much no rules cage fighting
Those with the luxury and time to think about philosophy of morals live in a different world to those fighting for their very existence.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 29 2023 22:18 utc | 206
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Yes. Exactly. And once again: Welcome back!

Posted by: malenkov | Oct 29 2023 23:09 utc | 432

SattaMassaGana | Oct 29 2023 22:59 utc | 219
Old testament. I assume most or all of what is in the old testament is also in the jewish scriptures.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 29 2023 23:03 utc | 221

Thanks Peter AU1 – I was under the impression that the Torah was composed of the first 5 books of the Bible (Genesis to Deuteronomy) so Samuel (1 & 2) are the 9th and 10th in the Bible so fall outside of the Torah. Judaism may hold Old Testament Prophets in high regard, but if that is the case I would have expected him to use Judaic references to make his point if he was talking to “his people”. the fact that he uses Biblical references would seem to indicate (at least to my mind) that his target audience is outside of Israel.
Just a thought.

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Oct 29 2023 23:13 utc | 433

SattaMassaGana | Oct 29 2023 22:59 utc | 219
Old testament. I assume most or all of what is in the old testament is also in the jewish scriptures.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 29 2023 23:03 utc | 221

Thanks Peter AU1 – I was under the impression that the Torah was composed of the first 5 books of the Bible (Genesis to Deuteronomy) so Samuel (1 & 2) are the 9th and 10th in the Bible so fall outside of the Torah. Judaism may hold Old Testament Prophets in high regard, but if that is the case I would have expected him to use Judaic references to make his point if he was talking to “his people”. the fact that he uses Biblical references would seem to indicate (at least to my mind) that his target audience is outside of Israel.
Just a thought.

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Oct 29 2023 23:13 utc | 434

What’s up with Netanyahu and the black shirt? Channeling Mussolini?

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 29 2023 23:13 utc | 435

What’s up with Netanyahu and the black shirt? Channeling Mussolini?

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 29 2023 23:13 utc | 436

Circumspect # 220.
I would think the imam of peace who is Saudi Arabian would know arab matters better than the stupid white man. He has a very interesting U tube up telling his monarch not to give in to the machinations of imposter Arabs

Posted by: Hutch | Oct 29 2023 23:14 utc | 437

Circumspect # 220.
I would think the imam of peace who is Saudi Arabian would know arab matters better than the stupid white man. He has a very interesting U tube up telling his monarch not to give in to the machinations of imposter Arabs

Posted by: Hutch | Oct 29 2023 23:14 utc | 438

What’s up with Netanyahu and the black shirt? Channeling Mussolini?
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 29 2023 23:13 utc | 224
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Fine with me, as long as he meets Mussolini’s fate!

Posted by: malenkov | Oct 29 2023 23:18 utc | 439

What’s up with Netanyahu and the black shirt? Channeling Mussolini?
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 29 2023 23:13 utc | 224
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Fine with me, as long as he meets Mussolini’s fate!

Posted by: malenkov | Oct 29 2023 23:18 utc | 440

The books of the old testament are the Jewish scriptures

Posted by: Ross | Oct 29 2023 23:20 utc | 441

The books of the old testament are the Jewish scriptures

Posted by: Ross | Oct 29 2023 23:20 utc | 442

Hutch | Oct 29 2023 22:37 utc | 213
*** Egyptian army who had these immigrants from central Asia etc working the area. Stupid white men call them Palestinian Arabs.***
Ah, so *that* explains why the Palestinians are all speaking Urdu.
The standard of bot really is abysmal nowadays.

Posted by: Cynic | Oct 29 2023 23:20 utc | 443

Hutch | Oct 29 2023 22:37 utc | 213
*** Egyptian army who had these immigrants from central Asia etc working the area. Stupid white men call them Palestinian Arabs.***
Ah, so *that* explains why the Palestinians are all speaking Urdu.
The standard of bot really is abysmal nowadays.

Posted by: Cynic | Oct 29 2023 23:20 utc | 444

Dun Groanin @ 34
Your account of the origins of Yiddish is quite different from the standard explanations.
Per Wiki:
“Yiddish (ייִדיש‎, יידיש‎ or אידיש‎, yidish or idish, pronounced [ˈ(j)ɪdɪʃ], lit. ’Jewish’; ייִדיש-טײַטש‎, Yidish-Taytsh, lit. ’Judeo-German’)[9] is a West Germanic language historically spoken by Ashkenazi Jews. It originates from 9th century[10] Central Europe, providing the nascent Ashkenazi community with a vernacular based on High German fused with many elements taken from Hebrew (notably Mishnaic) and to some extent Aramaic. Most varieties of Yiddish include elements of Slavic languages and the vocabulary contains traces of Romance languages.[11][12][13] Yiddish is primarily written in the Hebrew alphabet. . . . ”
I still don’t know where the term “Ashkenaz” came from.
Did I miss something?

Posted by: Jane | Oct 29 2023 23:24 utc | 445

Dun Groanin @ 34
Your account of the origins of Yiddish is quite different from the standard explanations.
Per Wiki:
“Yiddish (ייִדיש‎, יידיש‎ or אידיש‎, yidish or idish, pronounced [ˈ(j)ɪdɪʃ], lit. ’Jewish’; ייִדיש-טײַטש‎, Yidish-Taytsh, lit. ’Judeo-German’)[9] is a West Germanic language historically spoken by Ashkenazi Jews. It originates from 9th century[10] Central Europe, providing the nascent Ashkenazi community with a vernacular based on High German fused with many elements taken from Hebrew (notably Mishnaic) and to some extent Aramaic. Most varieties of Yiddish include elements of Slavic languages and the vocabulary contains traces of Romance languages.[11][12][13] Yiddish is primarily written in the Hebrew alphabet. . . . ”
I still don’t know where the term “Ashkenaz” came from.
Did I miss something?

Posted by: Jane | Oct 29 2023 23:24 utc | 446

Another stupid white man to imagine the so called imposters are speaking Urdu. The imam of peace Rawat al saeen author and media personality. Saudi Arabian knows his culture better than nogoodniks.

Posted by: Hutch | Oct 29 2023 23:30 utc | 447

Another stupid white man to imagine the so called imposters are speaking Urdu. The imam of peace Rawat al saeen author and media personality. Saudi Arabian knows his culture better than nogoodniks.

Posted by: Hutch | Oct 29 2023 23:30 utc | 448

don’t start to cry when a muslim suicide bomber kills your siblings you fuckers
Posted by: publicdisorder | Oct 29 2023 20:47 utc | 171
Strange to only say siblings? I guess you are not married and don’t have children

Posted by: Whitney | Oct 29 2023 23:33 utc | 449

don’t start to cry when a muslim suicide bomber kills your siblings you fuckers
Posted by: publicdisorder | Oct 29 2023 20:47 utc | 171
Strange to only say siblings? I guess you are not married and don’t have children

Posted by: Whitney | Oct 29 2023 23:33 utc | 450

Jane | Oct 29 2023 23:24 utc | 229 …
[re Yiddish language]
Read somewhere a while ago that it was a synthesised “trader” language of convenience developed by Jewish merchants along the length of the Silk Road, and incorporating words from umpteen sources, plus a few new ones; used to give an advantage during negotiations, since other people were unlikely to speak it.
Don’t know if that’s true, though.

Posted by: Cynic | Oct 29 2023 23:37 utc | 451

Jane | Oct 29 2023 23:24 utc | 229 …
[re Yiddish language]
Read somewhere a while ago that it was a synthesised “trader” language of convenience developed by Jewish merchants along the length of the Silk Road, and incorporating words from umpteen sources, plus a few new ones; used to give an advantage during negotiations, since other people were unlikely to speak it.
Don’t know if that’s true, though.

Posted by: Cynic | Oct 29 2023 23:37 utc | 452

I still don’t know where the term “Ashkenaz” came from.
Did I miss something?
Posted by: Jane | Oct 29 2023 23:24 utc | 229
It’s all on google Jane. Something to do with Noah and a Jewish sect in Armenia. For some reason it came to be the name for a certain group of Jews in Germany.

Posted by: dh | Oct 29 2023 23:50 utc | 453

I still don’t know where the term “Ashkenaz” came from.
Did I miss something?
Posted by: Jane | Oct 29 2023 23:24 utc | 229
It’s all on google Jane. Something to do with Noah and a Jewish sect in Armenia. For some reason it came to be the name for a certain group of Jews in Germany.

Posted by: dh | Oct 29 2023 23:50 utc | 454

From wikipedia for whatever its worth. Usually seems good for anything not related to current politic/geo-political fads and fashions.
“Ashkenaz (Hebrew: אַשְׁכְּנָז‎ ʾAškənāz) in the Hebrew Bible is one of the descendants of Noah. Ashkenaz is the first son of Gomer, and a Japhetic patriarch in the Table of Nations. In rabbinic literature, the descendants of Ashkenaz were first associated with the Scythian cultures, then later with the Slavic territories,[1] and, from the 11th century onwards, with Germany and northern Europe, or the Indo-European people, in a manner similar to Tzarfat or Sefarad.
His name is related to the Assyrian Aškūza (Aškuzai, Iškuzai), the Scythians who expelled the Gimirri (Gimirrāi) from the Armenian highland of the Upper Euphrates area”

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 29 2023 23:56 utc | 455

From wikipedia for whatever its worth. Usually seems good for anything not related to current politic/geo-political fads and fashions.
“Ashkenaz (Hebrew: אַשְׁכְּנָז‎ ʾAškənāz) in the Hebrew Bible is one of the descendants of Noah. Ashkenaz is the first son of Gomer, and a Japhetic patriarch in the Table of Nations. In rabbinic literature, the descendants of Ashkenaz were first associated with the Scythian cultures, then later with the Slavic territories,[1] and, from the 11th century onwards, with Germany and northern Europe, or the Indo-European people, in a manner similar to Tzarfat or Sefarad.
His name is related to the Assyrian Aškūza (Aškuzai, Iškuzai), the Scythians who expelled the Gimirri (Gimirrāi) from the Armenian highland of the Upper Euphrates area”

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 29 2023 23:56 utc | 456

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Oct 29 2023 23:13 utc | 223

Apparently Samuel is the third book in the Neviim (Prophets) within Judaic beliefs. In the Christian Bible it comprises 2 books, but in Judaic tradition it is a single book. So in fact he does look like he is using Judaic text.
https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/the-book-of-samuel/
Which only leaves the intent behind the actual instruction “You must remember what Amalek has done to you”. And what was the instruction (now using the Judaic texts) after remembering what Amalek had done to Israel? –

2“Thus said the lord of Hosts: I am exacting the penalty for what Amalek did to Yisrael, for the assault he made upon them on the road, on their way up from Egypt.
3 Now go, attack Amalek, and proscribe all that belongs to him. Spare no one, but kill alike men and women, infants and sucklings, oxen and sheep, camels and asses!”
“>https://theisraelbible.com/bible/i-samuel-15/

And now we can see the justification for doing what is being done in in Gaza and how far they intend to take it.

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Oct 30 2023 0:05 utc | 457

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Oct 29 2023 23:13 utc | 223

Apparently Samuel is the third book in the Neviim (Prophets) within Judaic beliefs. In the Christian Bible it comprises 2 books, but in Judaic tradition it is a single book. So in fact he does look like he is using Judaic text.
https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/the-book-of-samuel/
Which only leaves the intent behind the actual instruction “You must remember what Amalek has done to you”. And what was the instruction (now using the Judaic texts) after remembering what Amalek had done to Israel? –

2“Thus said the lord of Hosts: I am exacting the penalty for what Amalek did to Yisrael, for the assault he made upon them on the road, on their way up from Egypt.
3 Now go, attack Amalek, and proscribe all that belongs to him. Spare no one, but kill alike men and women, infants and sucklings, oxen and sheep, camels and asses!”
“>https://theisraelbible.com/bible/i-samuel-15/

And now we can see the justification for doing what is being done in in Gaza and how far they intend to take it.

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Oct 30 2023 0:05 utc | 458

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Oct 30 2023 0:05 utc | 236
https://theisraelbible.com/bible/i-samuel-15/

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Oct 30 2023 0:08 utc | 459

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Oct 30 2023 0:05 utc | 236
https://theisraelbible.com/bible/i-samuel-15/

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Oct 30 2023 0:08 utc | 460

@206, Peter AU1, I might add that the strong always take from the weak, and the rich from the poor. It was always thus.

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Oct 30 2023 0:16 utc | 461

@206, Peter AU1, I might add that the strong always take from the weak, and the rich from the poor. It was always thus.

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Oct 30 2023 0:16 utc | 462

@ spare_truth | Oct 29 2023 23:48 utc | 233
Paragraphs!
Use paragraph spacing so we can more easily read what you write, please.
If your format is not reader friendly many of us will skip over it entirely even if it is not to our benefit to do so.
Life is short and your words run on without pauses or breaks or ease for a weary eye. This is to your detriment if your desire is to communicate and share your thinking. I say this after many times finding your format unfriendly to readers but also wanting to wade through the difficult presentation. Thanks.
Just my view.

Posted by: suzan | Oct 30 2023 0:17 utc | 463

@ spare_truth | Oct 29 2023 23:48 utc | 233
Paragraphs!
Use paragraph spacing so we can more easily read what you write, please.
If your format is not reader friendly many of us will skip over it entirely even if it is not to our benefit to do so.
Life is short and your words run on without pauses or breaks or ease for a weary eye. This is to your detriment if your desire is to communicate and share your thinking. I say this after many times finding your format unfriendly to readers but also wanting to wade through the difficult presentation. Thanks.
Just my view.

Posted by: suzan | Oct 30 2023 0:17 utc | 464


NYPost,Pro-Palestinian mobs force flight from Israel to Russia to be diverted — and target next airport where it landed, too
The flight initially bound for Makhachkala International Airport in the heavily Muslim Russian Republic of Dagestan was diverted after scores of people waving Palestinian flags took over the facility upon learning of the flight from Tel Aviv, according to the Moscow Times.
[…]
Despite the chaos, Israel’s Foreign Ministry said that there were no Israeli citizens or Jewish people aboard the flight from Tel Aviv. But other Jewish passengers in the airport at the time were gathered by security and scheduled to be evacuated to Moscow “at the earliest convenience,”
The drama unfolded after several channels on Telegram went up urging residents in Dagestan, which has a Muslim population of 83%, to riot at the airports and root out Jewish passengers, according to Medizona, an independent Russian [?!] news outlet.
[…]
Posted by: sln2002 | Oct 29 2023 23:02 utc | 35

One could say the Palestinian cause has become critical to Russian National Security.
Putin better wake up and do it in a hurry. It’s time to intervene directly, if not kinetically, in the Gaza ‘war’.
There’s a whole bunch of Muslim enclaves in Russia and I’m sure he doesn’t want another decade long Chechen war on his hands at this time.


In fact, the Palestinian cause would be the ideal thing for the CIA to get the Muslim parts of the Russian Federation destabilized …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 30 2023 0:19 utc | 465


NYPost,Pro-Palestinian mobs force flight from Israel to Russia to be diverted — and target next airport where it landed, too
The flight initially bound for Makhachkala International Airport in the heavily Muslim Russian Republic of Dagestan was diverted after scores of people waving Palestinian flags took over the facility upon learning of the flight from Tel Aviv, according to the Moscow Times.
[…]
Despite the chaos, Israel’s Foreign Ministry said that there were no Israeli citizens or Jewish people aboard the flight from Tel Aviv. But other Jewish passengers in the airport at the time were gathered by security and scheduled to be evacuated to Moscow “at the earliest convenience,”
The drama unfolded after several channels on Telegram went up urging residents in Dagestan, which has a Muslim population of 83%, to riot at the airports and root out Jewish passengers, according to Medizona, an independent Russian [?!] news outlet.
[…]
Posted by: sln2002 | Oct 29 2023 23:02 utc | 35

One could say the Palestinian cause has become critical to Russian National Security.
Putin better wake up and do it in a hurry. It’s time to intervene directly, if not kinetically, in the Gaza ‘war’.
There’s a whole bunch of Muslim enclaves in Russia and I’m sure he doesn’t want another decade long Chechen war on his hands at this time.


In fact, the Palestinian cause would be the ideal thing for the CIA to get the Muslim parts of the Russian Federation destabilized …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 30 2023 0:19 utc | 466

@ SattaMassaGana | Oct 29 2023 23:13 utc | 223 with the perspective about the “dog whistle” to the US Xtians
I think your perspective is correct and as I read about the new US Speaker of the House, it resonates more. He is already calling China, Russia and Iran the axis of evil and is pushing for Occupied Palestine funding not linked to Ukraine funding.
I am going to try and write up something from a cultural anthropology perspective that talks about how the Western form of social organization evolved and how that form conflicts with China and other nations.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 30 2023 0:21 utc | 467

@ SattaMassaGana | Oct 29 2023 23:13 utc | 223 with the perspective about the “dog whistle” to the US Xtians
I think your perspective is correct and as I read about the new US Speaker of the House, it resonates more. He is already calling China, Russia and Iran the axis of evil and is pushing for Occupied Palestine funding not linked to Ukraine funding.
I am going to try and write up something from a cultural anthropology perspective that talks about how the Western form of social organization evolved and how that form conflicts with China and other nations.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 30 2023 0:21 utc | 468

When the dust settles will this be the summary?
1) The IDF executed a false flag security failure
2) The IDF delayed their reaction to Hamas’ jail break
3) The “1400 dead Israelis and rapes and decapitated babies” was Zionist atrocity propaganda.
A massive conflict of interest to report honestly.
4) The US especially and other countries accepted the atrocity propaganda uncritically
so that Israel would have license to ethnically cleanse Gaza.
5) The US blocked the cessation of hostilities thus prolonging the massacre of civilians in Gaza.
6) The IDF used the Hannibal Doctrine on Israeli civilians and caused a significant number
of Israeli civilian deaths.
7) The International Community is nearly impotent in it’s ability to protect Palestinian lives and rights.
8) The Palestinians were for years dealing with a dearth of protection and law from the international community and
were nearly on their own to fend off murderous thieves.

Posted by: librul | Oct 30 2023 0:30 utc | 469

When the dust settles will this be the summary?
1) The IDF executed a false flag security failure
2) The IDF delayed their reaction to Hamas’ jail break
3) The “1400 dead Israelis and rapes and decapitated babies” was Zionist atrocity propaganda.
A massive conflict of interest to report honestly.
4) The US especially and other countries accepted the atrocity propaganda uncritically
so that Israel would have license to ethnically cleanse Gaza.
5) The US blocked the cessation of hostilities thus prolonging the massacre of civilians in Gaza.
6) The IDF used the Hannibal Doctrine on Israeli civilians and caused a significant number
of Israeli civilian deaths.
7) The International Community is nearly impotent in it’s ability to protect Palestinian lives and rights.
8) The Palestinians were for years dealing with a dearth of protection and law from the international community and
were nearly on their own to fend off murderous thieves.

Posted by: librul | Oct 30 2023 0:30 utc | 470

@ spare_truth | Oct 29 2023 23:48 utc | 233
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Also, please cut back on the CAPITAL LETTERS, thank you.

Posted by: Ed | Oct 30 2023 0:32 utc | 471

@ spare_truth | Oct 29 2023 23:48 utc | 233
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Also, please cut back on the CAPITAL LETTERS, thank you.

Posted by: Ed | Oct 30 2023 0:32 utc | 472

SattaMassaGana | Oct 30 2023 0:05 utc | 236
Interesting. Israel = ISIS 2.0

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 30 2023 0:33 utc | 473

SattaMassaGana | Oct 30 2023 0:05 utc | 236
Interesting. Israel = ISIS 2.0

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 30 2023 0:33 utc | 474

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 30 2023 0:19 utc | 240
On GeromanAT(nitter) it says the grand mufti has told them to stand down and the obstinate are being rounded up.

Posted by: Bemildred | Oct 30 2023 0:38 utc | 475

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 30 2023 0:19 utc | 240
On GeromanAT(nitter) it says the grand mufti has told them to stand down and the obstinate are being rounded up.

Posted by: Bemildred | Oct 30 2023 0:38 utc | 476

David Hearst describes the situation in Israel.The inmates are running the asylum:
“.. Gila Gamaliel, the intelligence minister, using the official logo of her ministry, examined three post-war scenarios for Gaza.
“The one she thinks will yield strategic results is in three stages: the creation of tent cities in Sinai southwest of Gaza; the setting up of a humanitarian corridor to aid the residents, and the construction of cities in Northern Sinai.
“A sterile zone several kilometres wide would be created on the Egyptian side of the border to stop the evacuees from returning. In addition to creating cities in Sinai, “Canada, Greece, Spain and Northern African countries could absorb Palestinian evacuees”, Gamaliel wrote.
“The settlers in the West Bank have more direct ways of making their views known to the Palestinian villagers amongst whom they have imposed their presence.
They placed leaflets on cars and left bloodied dolls at schools.
“By God, we will descend upon your heads with a great catastrophe soon. You have the last chance to escape to Jordan in an organised manner,” said one leaflet circulated on Friday in the West Bank city of Salfit. “After that, we will destroy every enemy and forcefully expel you from our holy land… Load your bags immediately and leave wherever you came from. We are coming.”
“The intent is clear, even if the details of the plan to change the face of the Middle East, as Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu vowed to do in the first days after the 7 October attack, are not….”
https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/israel-palestine-war-biden-netanyahu-control-lost-has

Posted by: bevin | Oct 30 2023 0:39 utc | 477

David Hearst describes the situation in Israel.The inmates are running the asylum:
“.. Gila Gamaliel, the intelligence minister, using the official logo of her ministry, examined three post-war scenarios for Gaza.
“The one she thinks will yield strategic results is in three stages: the creation of tent cities in Sinai southwest of Gaza; the setting up of a humanitarian corridor to aid the residents, and the construction of cities in Northern Sinai.
“A sterile zone several kilometres wide would be created on the Egyptian side of the border to stop the evacuees from returning. In addition to creating cities in Sinai, “Canada, Greece, Spain and Northern African countries could absorb Palestinian evacuees”, Gamaliel wrote.
“The settlers in the West Bank have more direct ways of making their views known to the Palestinian villagers amongst whom they have imposed their presence.
They placed leaflets on cars and left bloodied dolls at schools.
“By God, we will descend upon your heads with a great catastrophe soon. You have the last chance to escape to Jordan in an organised manner,” said one leaflet circulated on Friday in the West Bank city of Salfit. “After that, we will destroy every enemy and forcefully expel you from our holy land… Load your bags immediately and leave wherever you came from. We are coming.”
“The intent is clear, even if the details of the plan to change the face of the Middle East, as Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu vowed to do in the first days after the 7 October attack, are not….”
https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/israel-palestine-war-biden-netanyahu-control-lost-has

Posted by: bevin | Oct 30 2023 0:39 utc | 478

@ Arch Bungle | Oct 30 2023 0:19 utc | 240 with the report of more froth coming off the top of our boiling pot…thx
50 years ago I spent a year of education under a cultural anthropologist and I have never looked at the world and our species the same since.
Control of the narrative is being lost by empire and the MSM is forced to report some form/lie of what is going on but people are getting better at finding the details behind the BS/propaganda. At this bar we have been watching this shit show evolve for over a decade and all of us have learned from each other and provided alternative information for the MoA lurkers out there. Thanks for your contributions.
I keep saying this is a civilization war that forces people to think about, or be exposed to the structure and details of the form of social organization they live under…..it is necessary for us, when the pot stops boiling, to say strongly going forward what we want and don’t want in a new form of social organization…..by and for the masses.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 30 2023 0:47 utc | 479

@ Arch Bungle | Oct 30 2023 0:19 utc | 240 with the report of more froth coming off the top of our boiling pot…thx
50 years ago I spent a year of education under a cultural anthropologist and I have never looked at the world and our species the same since.
Control of the narrative is being lost by empire and the MSM is forced to report some form/lie of what is going on but people are getting better at finding the details behind the BS/propaganda. At this bar we have been watching this shit show evolve for over a decade and all of us have learned from each other and provided alternative information for the MoA lurkers out there. Thanks for your contributions.
I keep saying this is a civilization war that forces people to think about, or be exposed to the structure and details of the form of social organization they live under…..it is necessary for us, when the pot stops boiling, to say strongly going forward what we want and don’t want in a new form of social organization…..by and for the masses.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 30 2023 0:47 utc | 480

publicdisorder | Oct 29 2023 20:47 utc | 171–
Well before their were Muslim suicide bombers there were Zionist terrorists. So, stuff that in your pipe and smoke it.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 30 2023 0:51 utc | 481

publicdisorder | Oct 29 2023 20:47 utc | 171–
Well before their were Muslim suicide bombers there were Zionist terrorists. So, stuff that in your pipe and smoke it.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 30 2023 0:51 utc | 482

@ SattaMassaGana | Oct 29 2023 23:13 utc | 223 with the perspective about the “dog whistle” to the US Xtians
I think your perspective is correct and as I read about the new US Speaker of the House, it resonates more. He is already calling China, Russia and Iran the axis of evil and is pushing for Occupied Palestine funding not linked to Ukraine funding.
I am going to try and write up something from a cultural anthropology perspective that talks about how the Western form of social organization evolved and how that form conflicts with China and other nations.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 30 2023 0:21 utc | 241

Thanks psychohistorian but I will backtrack a little on my original post. What threw me was the thought that he, as a Jew, was using a Christian source to make his point. If that was the case then I would suspect that the target audience was outside of Israel.
It seems that he was actually using a Judaic source and so I think the rightful target audience was fellow Jews within Israel. in making his point he is telling them that he is going to wipe-out everything inside of Gaza, as they are all (in his mind) collectively guilty. He is in essence giving his audience a heads up of the terrors to come and warning them not to feel too sympathetic when they see images of dead women and children as this is what they had to do previously when they were attacked. Also in the message was the reminder that this is not genocidal behaviour but behaviour guided and sanctioned by “the lord of Hosts”.
Of course, as well as the target audience, outside of them you’ll have everyone else including the US Evangelicals. I am pretty sure they will not only hear his message and understand it but they will also view it as divine and so agree to it.

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Oct 30 2023 0:51 utc | 483

@ SattaMassaGana | Oct 29 2023 23:13 utc | 223 with the perspective about the “dog whistle” to the US Xtians
I think your perspective is correct and as I read about the new US Speaker of the House, it resonates more. He is already calling China, Russia and Iran the axis of evil and is pushing for Occupied Palestine funding not linked to Ukraine funding.
I am going to try and write up something from a cultural anthropology perspective that talks about how the Western form of social organization evolved and how that form conflicts with China and other nations.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 30 2023 0:21 utc | 241

Thanks psychohistorian but I will backtrack a little on my original post. What threw me was the thought that he, as a Jew, was using a Christian source to make his point. If that was the case then I would suspect that the target audience was outside of Israel.
It seems that he was actually using a Judaic source and so I think the rightful target audience was fellow Jews within Israel. in making his point he is telling them that he is going to wipe-out everything inside of Gaza, as they are all (in his mind) collectively guilty. He is in essence giving his audience a heads up of the terrors to come and warning them not to feel too sympathetic when they see images of dead women and children as this is what they had to do previously when they were attacked. Also in the message was the reminder that this is not genocidal behaviour but behaviour guided and sanctioned by “the lord of Hosts”.
Of course, as well as the target audience, outside of them you’ll have everyone else including the US Evangelicals. I am pretty sure they will not only hear his message and understand it but they will also view it as divine and so agree to it.

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Oct 30 2023 0:51 utc | 484

On GeromanAT(nitter) it says the grand mufti has told them to stand down and the obstinate are being rounded up.
Posted by: Bemildred | Oct 30 2023 0:38 utc | 245
All well and good, but one would be naive to believe this is where it ends.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 30 2023 0:54 utc | 485

On GeromanAT(nitter) it says the grand mufti has told them to stand down and the obstinate are being rounded up.
Posted by: Bemildred | Oct 30 2023 0:38 utc | 245
All well and good, but one would be naive to believe this is where it ends.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 30 2023 0:54 utc | 486

Posted by: DunGroanin | Oct 29 2023 15:45 utc | 54
Not mentioned yet the notorious Palin Commission and its dubious report.. .. remember Sara..

Posted by: snake | Oct 30 2023 0:57 utc | 487

Posted by: DunGroanin | Oct 29 2023 15:45 utc | 54
Not mentioned yet the notorious Palin Commission and its dubious report.. .. remember Sara..

Posted by: snake | Oct 30 2023 0:57 utc | 488

Despite huge rallies and demos across Canada, including the participation of anti-Zionist Jews, the Canadian government remains one of the staunchest supporters of Apartheid Israel.
Here is the reason:
The Most Zionist Community in the World
https://www.jewishtoronto.com/news-media/toronto-the-most-zionist-community-in-the-world
“Israel is the heart and soul of Canadian Jewry in general and of the Toronto community in particular, and in fact is the strongest source of unity among Canadian Jews – and a central element in Jewish identity here…”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 30 2023 1:00 utc | 489

Despite huge rallies and demos across Canada, including the participation of anti-Zionist Jews, the Canadian government remains one of the staunchest supporters of Apartheid Israel.
Here is the reason:
The Most Zionist Community in the World
https://www.jewishtoronto.com/news-media/toronto-the-most-zionist-community-in-the-world
“Israel is the heart and soul of Canadian Jewry in general and of the Toronto community in particular, and in fact is the strongest source of unity among Canadian Jews – and a central element in Jewish identity here…”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 30 2023 1:00 utc | 490

71 ADB
And a number of poorer and rural or disabled Americans don’t have internet or aren’t able to use it .

Posted by: Lavieja | Oct 30 2023 1:01 utc | 491

71 ADB
And a number of poorer and rural or disabled Americans don’t have internet or aren’t able to use it .

Posted by: Lavieja | Oct 30 2023 1:01 utc | 492

All well and good, but one would be naive to believe this is where it ends.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 30 2023 0:54 utc | 251
“Some say” it was a Ukrainian provocation, I agree either way it needs to be taken care of promptly, Uncle Sugar sure does want to stir up trouble in the Caucasus.
Iran & Azerbaijan have apparently cut a deal to connect up Azerbaijan with its separated province; I don’t think Aliyev is dumb enough to cross Iran & Russia both, but you never know.

Posted by: Bemildred | Oct 30 2023 1:01 utc | 493

All well and good, but one would be naive to believe this is where it ends.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 30 2023 0:54 utc | 251
“Some say” it was a Ukrainian provocation, I agree either way it needs to be taken care of promptly, Uncle Sugar sure does want to stir up trouble in the Caucasus.
Iran & Azerbaijan have apparently cut a deal to connect up Azerbaijan with its separated province; I don’t think Aliyev is dumb enough to cross Iran & Russia both, but you never know.

Posted by: Bemildred | Oct 30 2023 1:01 utc | 494

@241, psychohistorian, The US needs external enemies to deflect from the damage they’ve done here. Hari Seldon was a pschohistorian. Is that where you took your name?

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Oct 30 2023 1:03 utc | 495

@241, psychohistorian, The US needs external enemies to deflect from the damage they’ve done here. Hari Seldon was a pschohistorian. Is that where you took your name?

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Oct 30 2023 1:03 utc | 496

@ John Gilberts | Oct 30 2023 1:00 utc | 254
The only hope for Canada is the violent overthrow of its government. Which will never happen. Canadians are just too damn nice.

Posted by: malenkov | Oct 30 2023 1:06 utc | 497

@ John Gilberts | Oct 30 2023 1:00 utc | 254
The only hope for Canada is the violent overthrow of its government. Which will never happen. Canadians are just too damn nice.

Posted by: malenkov | Oct 30 2023 1:06 utc | 498

spare-truth, what the actual fuck? Speak English man! Or else we might think that you’re Kamala Harris in disguise.

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Oct 30 2023 1:08 utc | 499

spare-truth, what the actual fuck? Speak English man! Or else we might think that you’re Kamala Harris in disguise.

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Oct 30 2023 1:08 utc | 500