Remarks by President Biden on the Unites States’ Response to Hamas’s Terrorist Attacks Against Israel and Russia’s Ongoing Brutal War Against Ukraine, 19 Oct

…What would happen if we walked away? We are the essential nation…

Posted by: sln2002 | Oct 20 2023 14:50 utc | 3

B
Your work is much appreciated. Your digging and aggregating will be useful to historians. Doing the legwork to connect the dots is tedious and beyond my capacity to say the least. To witness a legend do it in real time is very precious.
I would ask if we can go back and visit the issues with Lebanon, Syria, and Israel. Gaza and the West Bank are pretty much as they always were but I hear nothing about Lebanon.
dan

Posted by: dan of steele | Oct 20 2023 14:53 utc | 5

Imagine if U.S. media boardrooms were full of Palestinians instead of … oh, I’m not allowed to say who they are today.
But I can pretend they are “Whites” and that the Hollywood bosses are “Whites” in order to attack Whites, that’s okay. According to the media.

Posted by: Tenet | Oct 20 2023 14:54 utc | 7

My comments are about the church, the Saint Porphyrius, that was bombed, with civilians seeking refuge. The church was built around 400 AD. One of the most oldest in Christianity. Now, no more . I had tears in my eyes when I read up about this place. And what is the solution given to this by our esteemed US government? Safe zones. And what does that do? That means Israel can keep bombing. When our government doesn’t give a flying banana about the bombing of a Christian church, they’re no good in my book. All this so Netanyahu and his good friend Uncle Joe won’t be brought up on charges and get thrown in the slammer. Despicable. Just despicable.

Posted by: Jose Garcia | Oct 20 2023 14:57 utc | 9

I think Gil’s take us pretty much correct. This could be the big one.
“Russian missiles can strike the U.S. aircraft carrier task force off Israeli shores and two of them are sufficient to send the Gerald Ford to the bottom of the sea.
That last point is not my own interpretation: it was stated clearly on a live broadcast of Russia’s premier talk show hosted by Vladimir Solovyov two days ago. To that I add here a very important additional note that highlights how close we are coming to the war to end all wars: Putin made his statement about the Kinzhals not from his Kremlin offices but from the guest house in Beijing where he spent two days this week and met for several hours with Chinese president Xi Jinping. As a veteran Kremlinologist, I can say with confidence that Putin’s readiness to finish off the American aircraft carrier task force in the Mediterranean if necessary had been discussed with and approved by Xi, who surely has his own concerns about the U.S. navy operating most provocatively in the South China Sea. It also aligns with the threat by North Korean leader Kim one week ago that he is ready to sink the U.S. aircraft carrier that loiters in the vicinity of the Korean peninsula. What we have before us is the prospect of Pearl Harbor all over again, but in three seas.
These separate facts are in the public domain. I remain surprised that no one is drawing the dots to the obvious conclusion: that we are on the cusp of a very great war for which the Mideast crisis is just the detonator.”

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 20 2023 14:58 utc | 11

thanks b.
If it wasn’t for this site, I would have very limited options for news and commentary.
I just wanted to say that in the last day or so I’ve been quite disappointed with Matt Taibbi. I’m a paying subscriber to his Substack because I’ve respected his journalism for a long time and I want to support it. But his very lame angle (dupe?disingenuous? deceitful?) on the the al-Ahli Arab Christian hospital is quite appalling to say the least.

Posted by: tawharanui | Oct 20 2023 15:00 utc | 13

Astonishingly good article at HuffPost about possible MUTINY at State Department:
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/state-department-gaza_n_6531a23ae4b0da897ab75ce4?utm_source=cordial&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=hp-us-reg-morning-email_2023-10-20&utm_term=us-morning-email&email_hash=c79108e0de4e66fa770feaf06d2db3966921477b

Posted by: Linda Wood | Oct 20 2023 15:00 utc | 15

Essential US State Department Press Briefing, 19 Oct

[…]
QUESTION: Can I follow up on that, Matt? Why is it only 20 trucks at this point? Do you have any firm agreement from the Egyptians to allow American citizens to leave via the Rafah crossing? Do you have an estimate on how many are trying to get out in that route?
MILLER: So I will say just with respect to trucks, I don’t want to speak to the—what the exact agreement will look like, because that is a matter that continues to be negotiated, that Ambassador Satterfield is on the ground negotiating. The Israelis, as they have said publicly and as Secretary Blinken said after we met with them for seven and a half hours to secure this initial agreement on Monday, the Israelis have very serious concerns about the diversion of humanitarian assistance. They’re worried that assistance that goes in will be diverted to Hamas. We are working out an agreement to ensure that that – that any deliveries can be handled appropriately. So we’ll continue to work on that. But what we have said publicly and what we have said to the Israeli Government is quite clear: We expect humanitarian assistance to be able to get in. We think it’s important that the innocent civilians in Gaza who did not start this conflict have access to food and water and medicine. That’s the commitment from the President on down. It’s what Ambassador Satterfield is working out the details of even as we speak
QUESTION: And what is being offered to the Egyptians to try to grease the wheels on this?
QUESTION: And what is being offered to the Egyptians to try to grease the wheels on this?
MILLER: We’re not offering them anything. We are telling them that we have an interest in getting American citizens out, and it is our interest, it is their interest, it is the interest of every government in the region that humanitarian assistance be provided to the innocent civilians in Gaza who are not a party to this conflict.
[…]

Posted by: sln2002 | Oct 20 2023 15:02 utc | 17

Most of us feel the same way.
Welcome to the United States of Mahagonny.
Didn’t Lotte Lenya sing “I tell you, I tell you, I tell you we must die..”
Posted by: bevin | Oct 20 2023 14:50 utc | 1
Definitely so. We’re all feeling it. Rest up, old boy. Lots of work to be done soon and you’ll need to be fit and fresh.
Not sure about Lotte, but old Jim had more than a few apt lyrics.
“Strange days have found us
Strange days have tracked us down
They’re going to destroy
Our casual joys
We shall go on playing or find a new town
Yeah!
Strange eyes fill strange rooms
Voices will signal their tired end
The hostess is grinning
Her guests sleep from sinning
Hear me talk of sin
And you know this is it
Yeah!
Strange days have found us
And through their strange hours
We linger alone
Bodies confused
Memories misused
As we run from the day
To a strange night of stone”

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 20 2023 15:04 utc | 19

The hospital, was in fact, hit by a Hamas errant rocket.
If you look around the area using Google earth, you’ll see some incubators, taken by Saddams forces from Kuwait, when they threw babies on the floor. The launch site is north of this.
If you pan around you’ll see a sea can that’s half empty. This is where Momar Gadaffi kept his Viagra supply that he was giving to his troops for gang raping civilians. It’s east of this.
The next reference is hard to find. It’s 2 crates on a hill that Saddam kept little vials of ianthrax and ricin in. You know, the same ones Colin Powell was showing to the UN. It’s south of this.
If you keep looking, you’ll see 2 pipes filled with Sarin. These are the same pipes Assad used on civilians, not the rebels. THE REBELS DIDN’T DO THIS, ASSAD DID!! ASSAD IS A VERY VERY BAD MAN!! It’s a little west of this.
If you look in the center, you’ll see some equipment with Russian markings. This is the equipment Putin used to blowup his own pipeline, NS2.
It’s right beside this where the Hamas rocket was launched from.

Posted by: Just a grunt | Oct 20 2023 15:05 utc | 21

Here is video from Dr Mohatir Mohammad former pm of Malaysia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMiv1oV2RoM
Transcript:
OF LIES AND DECEPTIONS
1. President Joe Biden’s statement regarding the bombing of the hospital in Gaza was from a misfired Palestinian rocket is totally ridiculous and absurd.
2. Why should there be any doubt that the blast of the Al Ahli Arab hospital is from an Israeli air strike as the murderous regime had been attempting to wipe Palestinians and Gaza out of existence since last week.
3. In fact, Israel had been after the Palestinians all the time, if not wipe out the Palestinians altogether, for the past 70 years and suddenly now, after launching air strikes day and night, Palestinians blames for the blast on the hospital.
4. Biden’s narrative is based on feedbacks from Nethanyahu and Pentagon.
5. Obviously Nethanyahu lies about everything. And if Biden wants to use Pentagon to give credence to his narrative, we have not forgotten how Pentagon and other American institutions lied about the existence of weapons of mass destruction (WMDs) in Iraq.
6. A more recent lie is about Biden claiming to have seen pictures of Hamas beheading babies.
7. Indeed, the White House had withdrawn the statement, admitting that there was no proof of such a deed. The question is how Biden could blatantly lie in the first place and with a straight face.
8. The crux of the matter is that all these atrocities committed by Israel on the Palestinians stems from the American support for Tel Aviv.
9. If the American Government withdraws its support for Israel and stop all military aids to the regime, Israel would not have carried out the genocide and mass murders of Palestinians with impunity.
10. The United States government needs to come clean and tell the truth. Israel and its IDF are the terrorists. The United States is blatantly supporting terrorists. So what is the United States?

Posted by: Arata | Oct 20 2023 15:05 utc | 23

John Helmer’s Dances with Bears Oct 10 report on Russia’s changed relationship with Israel has jaw-dropping information and implications. I learned about the report from this comment section. I could repeat that sentence thousands of times. MoA is invaluable, b. Your analyses are invaluable. You make a big difference.

Posted by: Pundita | Oct 20 2023 15:09 utc | 25

“While Biden declared that the world was at an inflection point, this is not because war is something new for the United States. On the contrary, America has been at war for more than 30 years, and the countries it has invaded, occupied or bombed amount to a significant portion of the world’s population—Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Pakistan, most of North Africa, Bosnia, Kosovo, Serbia, Sudan.
What is new is the transformation of these wars into a more general conflict, or, as Leon Trotsky described it on the eve of World War II, when “separate clashes and bloody local disturbances … must inevitably coalesce into a conflagration of world dimensions.”
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/10/20/zxcu-o20.html

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 20 2023 15:09 utc | 27

Posted by: Just a grunt | Oct 20 2023 15:05 utc | 11
The most poisonous of dwarfs here. Don’t touch it, my good barflies!

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 20 2023 15:11 utc | 29

the sinking heart…not a good feeling at all. Nothing is sacrosanct to them. Karma’s sure is gonna come around in a big way though. Remember that

Posted by: nathan in WA US | Oct 20 2023 15:13 utc | 31

Biden’s “Axis of Evil, Part 2” speech pledging unlimited war will be an absolute disaster for the US, as well as a disaster for Biden politically a year from now. Among all the other gibberish and pledging unlimited support to Israel, he billed it as a “wartime speech,” made weird threats to fight directly against Russia, and ended with “god protect our troops” (not god “bless” our troops, the standard formulation). He clearly signalled he intends US troops to be directly involved.

Posted by: Bob | Oct 20 2023 15:15 utc | 33

Israel’s imminent ground invasion has been imminent for how many days? Every day that passes they do or say something so outrageous that the rest of the world is bound to rise up and demand they don’t invade. Maybe they will invade. Or maybe they have made the perfect excuse not to invade.

Posted by: Pundita | Oct 20 2023 15:19 utc | 35

So illuminating and funny in a schadenfreude manner that the NYT is being attacked for actually standing for facts (in a very weak way and they will cave I’m sure) re the hospital bombing.
Carrying water for empire for a 100 years but one wrong step and you’re out …

Posted by: Caliman | Oct 20 2023 15:21 utc | 37

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 20 2023 15:11 utc | 15
I think you didn’t get it. that was some fairly good satire.
Yeah I know, it has become really hard to tell the difference….especially when well-meaning people quote the Onion

Posted by: dan of steele | Oct 20 2023 15:23 utc | 39

possible MUTINY at State Department:
Posted by: Linda Wood | Oct 20 2023 15:00 utc | 8
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The State Department does not have a confirmed (Assistant Secretary) Legal Advisor.
The position has been largely provisional since the tenure of Hillary Clinton, which of course leads to a lack or proper oversight.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_Adviser_of_the_Department_of_State

Posted by: too scents | Oct 20 2023 15:26 utc | 41

I have to wonder about the view from China, is it sheer disbelief? The US “pivot to Asia” has utterly collapsed. While the US views China as its central enemy and does everything possible to increase tensions, it is now utterly tied down in Europe and the Middle East. Such a self-destructive way of stoking conflict that you cannot possibly contain.

Posted by: Bob | Oct 20 2023 15:28 utc | 43

Apocalypse can be exhausting!
Prost!
на здоро́вье!
Skál!

Posted by: El.Lissitzky | Oct 20 2023 15:30 utc | 45

Thanks, b. I read Brenner’s analysis waiting for the familiar “end of Europe” discussion. Except, unlike with many reflections on Ukraine, it didn’t come. There’s a silver lining of some sort.

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Oct 20 2023 15:30 utc | 47

Mr. Piers Morgan: “I mean there is a dark humour there (…)”
No, Mr. Morgan. There is no “dark humour” there when you imhumanely and indifferently slaughter those held captive all their life and claim it’s done in self defense.
On a side note – humour requires empathy, which you and those of your kind are absolutely devoid of whatsoever.
“It is a hideous liberal hypocrisy that expects victims of ongoing genocide to employ legal restraint in their resistance.”
Posted by: Browser | Oct 20 2023 7:31 utc | 382
Copying, since there is nothing to add.
Also a warm thank you for sharing the following:
“Red Palestine”
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=90AAcSvJAl0
https://youtu.be/watch?v=90AAcSvJAl0
Posted by: Browser | Oct 20 2023 7:37 utc | 384

Posted by: kspr | Oct 20 2023 15:34 utc | 49

I have absolutely no idea who she is, but the latest “Simplicius” effort is extremely well written, informative, with some very interesting photography, which I hadn’t seen before..some of which is probably not faked, and some of which in a time of almost World War 3 is very illustrative of the insanity of covering tanks with bomb protecting solar panels.
“Lastly, speaking of Israeli tanks, it’s been noted how an innovation Russia was once ridiculed for, has now become the de rigueur norm for all global militaries. The IDF has now been busily welding the infamous anti-drone “cope cages” onto all its tanks in preparation for the Gaza foray:
”

Posted by: tony_opmoc | Oct 20 2023 15:35 utc | 51

Thank you for your work, b.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 20 2023 15:37 utc | 53

Perhaps it’s just my subjectivity, but it seems to me that since 9/11 conspiracies have been manifesting themselves on a monumental scale, I suppose it has something to do with the US’s rush to consolidate what is essentially a totalizing global empire, while it still has a chance, and before it goes bankrupt because of that same empire-pursuing gigantic military spending.

Posted by: Ludo | Oct 20 2023 15:38 utc | 55

For those with strong stomachs, from Canadian satire news site, The Beaverton —
“Biden suggests that Hamas and Israeli government hash things out over a plate of ribs”
https://x.com/TheBeaverton/status/1715101430418145626

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Oct 20 2023 15:38 utc | 57

What if the entire Palestinian-Zionist issue were viewed through the lens of the crusades?
i.e, that the entire Palestinian-‘israeli’ conflict is merely the ninth crusade continuing on for the last few hundred years, with the same actors but this time with a “Jewish” twist to it?
Would that make sense?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 20 2023 15:42 utc | 59

Posted by: sln2002 | Oct 20 2023 15:02 utc | 9
Thanks for the transcript. It’s important to note that the US isn’t telling the Egyptians anything. The US tried to tell the Egyptians to take all of Gaza for resettlement in Sinai and the Egyptians said no. The trucks, many more than 20 have been waiting at Rafah since 10/8. It is the Israelis who are making it impossible for aid to get through. This is US dissembling to make itself look good and cover for Tel Aviv.

Posted by: Lex | Oct 20 2023 15:42 utc | 61

Posted by: Ludo | Oct 20 2023 15:38 utc | 28
Maybe this is because the term ‘conspiracy’ itself got co-opted to mean ‘tin foil hat ludacrosities no sane person believes in’, which again means ‘deviating from what The News say’.

Posted by: kspr | Oct 20 2023 15:47 utc | 63

Truckloads of humanitarian aid await opening of Rafah border crossing ==> https://youtu.be/SbofbKVHej4

Posted by: too scents | Oct 20 2023 15:47 utc | 65

Thank you b for all you do, I know I could never do it myself.
Thank you to all here who search for, find, and write about the truths of the world whatever they are, or who in any way honestly attempts to do so from their point of view and life.
Thank you no matter if we agree or not or on what specifics or to what degree. Like or dislike, all that human stuff.
I think we all —or at least most by far— know things have to change for the better and that it’s not a matter of wanting it to but instead a requirement that is in the process of being realized.
The sadness lies in the avoidability of doing it the hard way as is being forced upon everyone. Askew to that sadness is a kind of inevitability which might not give much comfort, but it’s there.
Be kind to yourself everyone, don’t burn out just because others (a few, or many, or in the wrong places) do not yet see or understand what you do.
It’s not windmills we’re fighting that’s for sure (well unless one literally doesn’t like some modern type windmills because of massive insect and bird deaths etc.)… …wow I’m bad at trying to be nice and encouraging XD

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Oct 20 2023 15:48 utc | 67

Ahenobarbus@15…..you have no concept of Black Humor, at its fucking best, I tip my hat, on point, on par.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Oct 20 2023 15:48 utc | 69

Biden saw the photos of the 40 beheaded babies too.
Bibi just made Biden his bitch. Bibi’s well timed strategic hospital bombing not only gave him a US green light for genocide and ethnic cleansing (plus billions more in military aid and a UN veto), it blew up any “normalization” or US credibility in the region.

Posted by: bill wolfe | Oct 20 2023 15:51 utc | 71

What we have before us is the prospect of Pearl Harbor all over again, but in three seas
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 20 2023 14:58 utc | 6
Add another. I saw a report that Yemen fired a missile at the USS Carney, which is in the Red Sea.

Posted by: wagelaborer | Oct 20 2023 15:52 utc | 73

@ Just a grunt | Oct 20 2023 15:05 utc | 11
lol.. very good! comic relief is helpful here..

Posted by: james | Oct 20 2023 15:56 utc | 75

Even when Big Lies(1) about hospital bombings or anything are constantly repeated & believed by millions of trusting, gullible, good people, they remain Big Lies.
“The truth is the only way that we can get anywhere… any decision-making… based upon lies or ignorance can’t lead to a good conclusion.” Julian Assange
TruthSeekers/Speakers & Leakers are needed now more than ever! Living in fear is not really living. If we should be afraid of anything, we should be afraid of acting like impotent cowards.

United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights Press Release, quoted in Gaza: UN experts decry bombing of hospitals and schools as crimes against humanity, call for prevention of genocide, (19 October 2023)
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2023/10/gaza-un-experts-decry-bombing-hospitals-and-schools-crimes-against-humanity
Excerpt:
UN experts today expressed outrage against the deadly strike at Al Ahli Arab Hospital in Gaza City, which killed more than 470 civilians on Tuesday and trapped hundreds under the rubble. The strike reportedly followed two warnings issued by Israel that an attack on the hospital was imminent if people inside were not evacuated.
The strike against Al Ahli Arab Hospital is an atrocity. We are equally outraged by the deadly strike on the same day on an UNRWA school located in Al Maghazi refugee camp that sheltered some 4000 displaced people, as well as two densely populated refugee camps,” the experts said.
There is an ongoing campaign by Israel resulting in crimes against humanity in Gaza. Considering statements made by Israeli political leaders and their allies, accompanied by military action in Gaza and escalation of arrests and killing in the West Bank, there is also a risk of genocide against the Palestine people
An estimated 50,000 pregnant women in Gaza, are in desperate need of prenatal and postnatal care. The number of internally displaced people across the Gaza Strip is estimated at around one million.
The unlawful denial of humanitarian access and depriving civilians of objects indispensable to their survival are also a violation of international humanitarian law, the experts warned.
“The complete siege of Gaza coupled with unfeasible evacuation orders and forcible population transfers, is a violation of international humanitarian and criminal law. It is also unspeakably cruel,” the experts said.
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1) https://en.wikiquote.org/w/index.php?title=Big_lie&oldid=3085670 Big Lies (uncensored page)

Posted by: Toby C | Oct 20 2023 15:56 utc | 77

Ahenobarbus@15…..you have no concept of Black Humor, at its fucking best, I tip my hat, on point, on par.
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Oct 20 2023 15:48 utc | 37
Oh, that was humor? Sorry.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 20 2023 15:56 utc | 79

@Arch Bungle | Oct 20 2023 15:42 utc | 31

What if the entire Palestinian-Zionist issue were viewed through the lens of the crusades?
i.e, that the entire Palestinian-‘israeli’ conflict is merely the ninth crusade continuing on for the last few hundred years, with the same actors but this time with a “Jewish” twist to it?
Would that make sense?

In a way it makes a lot of sense, this has been going on for more than a few hundred years. The viking King Sigurd Jorsalfare (Jorsalfare=”He who travelled to Jorsal” where Jorsal=Jerusalem in old Norse) led the crusade there in 1107.

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 20 2023 15:59 utc | 81

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 20 2023 15:11 utc | 15
I think you didn’t get it. that was some fairly good satire.
Yeah I know, it has become really hard to tell the difference….especially when well-meaning people quote the Onion
Posted by: dan of steele | Oct 20 2023 15:23 utc | 20
Yeah. I see it now. Gaddafi Viagra. Right. That’s very nice.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 20 2023 15:59 utc | 83

I took @11 as satire . . . What do we have as accurate info on the hospital bombing? At first the explosion was reported as “massive” with 500 killed; we were also told of “knock-on” bombs or warnings the bomb was on its way, of other warnings. Also, it was reasoned that if jihad forces had such a weapon it would be falling on Israeli buildings. Anyway, even without all that, the hideous extermination program underway at the time works against plausibility that it came from Palestinian defenses. This hideous bomb on a hospital, with accounts by hospital witnesses now being removed from the internet, blends into the horror of giving people 24 hours to get south while obliterating homes and infrastructure, the wanton killing of innocents, including hundreds of children. And amidst this a UN ceasefire resolution denied . . .

Posted by: botete | Oct 20 2023 16:01 utc | 85

The US Air Force jets are screaming overhead today across the US Air Force Barry Goldwater bombing range in southern Arizona.
I get the distinct feeling that they wish – and have a hard on for – doing real bombing runs over similar desert terrain in the Middle East.

Posted by: bill wolfe | Oct 20 2023 16:03 utc | 87

“10. The United States government needs to come clean and tell the truth. Israel and its IDF are the terrorists. The United States is blatantly supporting terrorists. So what is the United States?
Posted by: Arata | Oct 20 2023 15:05 utc | 12”
Biden is lying. Biden is a raging hypocrite. Biden is on the side of evil in Israel and Ukraine.
What does anyone propose to do about it?

Posted by: Feral Finster | Oct 20 2023 16:03 utc | 89

Ditto b, because we are human, we need sleep, exercise and beauty in our daily life. To breathe correctly.
As I posted in n previous thread about Bassem the Egyptian, I’d just like to punt out to bf’s that Piers Morgan’s LIE of not having promoted the beheaded babies on his show was proved instantly to be a lie. He said it to Joan Collins. Look it up if any one doubts it.
@ Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 20 2023 15:42 utc | 31
My rather confused rant on the previous thread written and posted without edit was about exactly that.
I didn’t make it explicit there bu do so right now – the United States of America itself was wholly a Zionist endeavour.
All European Imperialism has been a Zionist endeavour.
The Catholic Church itself has always been a Zionist project.
Going back to the Crusades and BEFORE.
The Zionists got going when they split the East and West.
At the end of the Roman Empire.
The US is just following orders. As is all of Europe. Except a few who always stood against the ancient foes.
The only way to end this madness of centuries is to make sure that each and every one of the Ancient Powers UNDERSTANDS, they will NOT survive.
No matter how far behind frontlines, behind castle walls, in their deepest luxury bunkers , with hundreds of years of food and sex slaves, the Multipolarity Knows where they are and they have weapons to incinerate them in the first minutes.
Ahead of innocents in cities.
It’s time to take their foot off the throats of humanity and be equals or if they can’t live with that – well let’s finish this.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Oct 20 2023 16:11 utc | 91

@11. You must be a grunt, you’re talking too much sense to be an officer.

Posted by: Fred777 | Oct 20 2023 16:15 utc | 93

My rather confused rant on the previous thread written and posted without edit was about exactly that.
Posted by: DunGroanin | Oct 20 2023 16:11 utc | 49
I saw that. Therein lies a rabbit hole that will fill several libraries …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 20 2023 16:17 utc | 95

So depressing.
Fact:
Most people are demons or domesticated demons.

Posted by: librul | Oct 20 2023 16:18 utc | 97

Occasionally we have an Eastern Rite Priest say Mass.
He has talked about the persecution of Christians throughout the middle east and Armenia.
Today he talked about the Catholic Church bombed and Israeli response they ‘killed fewer than Hamas’!
Not only Muslims!

Posted by: paddy | Oct 20 2023 16:20 utc | 99