Cute 25 year old blond kibbutz gal kills 5 Hamas attackers
https://www.merkur.de/welt/krieg-hamas-ueberfall-israel-25-jaehrige-terroristen-falle-massaker-kibbuz-gaza-92572759.html

Posted by: Exile | Oct 12 2023 7:37 utc | 3

Posted by: Boris Badenov | Oct 12 2023 7:34 utc | 1
it seems probable that the IDF is continuing to lie, like they did about the dead babies.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Oct 12 2023 7:40 utc | 5

@pretzelattack | Oct 12 2023 7:40 utc | 3
it seems probable that the IDF is continuing to lie, like they did about the dead babies.
So… what? You’re saying Gaza doesn’t have underground tunnels? Seriously??
That seems absurd. If I was Hamas, given my opponent, that’s exactly the sort of thing I’d do.

Posted by: Boris Badenov | Oct 12 2023 7:47 utc | 7

That might explain some of the bombings we’re seeing
Posted by: Boris Badenov | Oct 12 2023 7:34 utc | 1
You seem to imply that the Israeli bombing was only/mainly directed at the Hamas leadership and not in retaliation against civilians, curious.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Badenov
Also, you still haven’t explained why you adopted an anti-communist and Russophobic animated protagonist as your ID even if we have asked you in b’s past post.

Boris Badenov is an antagonist character in the 1959–1964 animated series Rocky and His Friends and The Bullwinkle Show
Badenov’s name is a pun on that of 16th-century Russian tsar Boris Godunov (i.e., “good enough” vs. “bad enough”).
Boris is a spy from the fictional nation of Pottsylvania, and takes orders from the strongman known as Fearless Leader (and occasionally the rarely seen Mr. Big). Boris’ missions range from trying to steal a secret rocket fuel formula to eliminating all television from the United States as part of Pottsylvania’s various attempts to seize power. Boris, who is thoroughly dedicated to (and takes delight in) all manners of nefarious deeds, would also sometimes engage in his own schemes, such as starting his own organized crime gang and hiring himself out as a professional executioner, and frequently conspires schemes simply to get rich (such as by posing as a Hollywood director to bilk Bullwinkle out of his life savings in “The Last Angry Moose” or usurping Santa Claus by taking advantage of a freak polar drift in “Topsy Turvy World”).
Boris enjoys light reading; his favorite book is an anthology of fiendish plans called the Fireside Crook Book. He is also a charter member of the Van Gogh Society, a Pottsylvanian club whose members collect human ears.
Boris’s main catch phrase (spoken when frustrated) is “Raskolnikov!” (a reference to the novel Crime and Punishment by Dostoevsky), spoken in his Pottsylvanian accent (a mock-Russian accent).

This is a completely dehumanizing description of Russians and the Soviet Union.
Moreover, the Zionist SS is always eager to publicize the “hostile militants” they claim to have killed, so if your claim that only one percent of the killings of Hamas’s leadership have taken place, we should be seeing news stories that are eager to proclaim victory to make up for the humiliation, rather than this baseless speculation.

Posted by: Colin | Oct 12 2023 7:54 utc | 9

Posted by: Boris Badenov | Oct 12 2023 7:34 utc | 1
Maybe one only needs to look at the history of Nazi Germany to “understand why the IDF does what it does” instead of your attempts to pretend you don’t support Zionism while at the same time trying to find ways to excuse Israel’s murderous bombings “but Hamas has underground tunnels, you have to understand the IDF” “the IDF is just targeting the Hamas leadership instead of massacring civilians, how great is that?”

Posted by: Colin | Oct 12 2023 7:58 utc | 11

Wait a moment…. It is totally out of form for that serial liar John Kirby to say that civilians are protected by the laws of war. He didn’t say nuthin’ when Donbass civilians were bombed for 8 years, did he?
I smell a rotten rat here: the US regime ( I hate to call them an administration, or government, or establishment ) the US regime could be playing the good cop here, in preparation for the Israelis to level Gaza to the ground. And below.
The US regime will say afterwards that they tried their best to save the Palestinians, but they refused to leave, or they left too slowly, and so, became collateral damage to Israel’s “targeted strikes.” Israel always say they were aiming at known Hamas hideouts, never at civilians.
And of course, the Israelis NEVER lie, if you believe them.
And of course, John Kirby only tell white lies, if you also believe him.

Posted by: kiwiklown | Oct 12 2023 8:02 utc | 13

Posted by: kiwiklown | Oct 12 2023 8:02 utc | 8
Correct, which is why our Russophobe repeatedly emphasizes the Zionist talking point “because they have underground tunnels we had to use thermobaric bombs in order to accurately kill the Hamas leadership. So you need to understand why our armed-to-the-teeth military needs to massacre babies, it’s in no way genocide”. As before he keeps inserting “I’m an extreme skeptic, but the IDF says Palestinians slaughter babies! But Palestinians behead babies! ”

Posted by: Colin | Oct 12 2023 8:08 utc | 15

Posted by: Exile | Oct 12 2023 7:37 utc | 2
Reminds me of the amazing Ukrainian pilots in the MSM.

Posted by: Colin | Oct 12 2023 8:09 utc | 17

Moreover, there is no reason to behead leading members of Hamas unless the aim is to propel a more radical faction to power.
In fact, they are far more moderate than the most popular Palestinian armed organizations. When the moderate upper cadres of Hamas are eliminated, they will only be replaced by more radical organizations.
Of course, I don’t disagree that the Zionists are so short-sighted, but there is no sign of that at the moment, unless you believe the MSM’s repeated claims that the Zionist SS is targeting armed Hamas targets and completely ignore the fact that the Zionist media lacks a lot of claims of accomplishments against the Hamas leadership specifically as they would do in the past.

Posted by: Colin | Oct 12 2023 8:18 utc | 19

News about Saudi-Iranian contacts are indeed significant, though probably irrelevant for the material fate of the besieged Gaza population.
It could be interesting to investigate what kind of commitment to (agreed upon) lexical choices and descriptive formulae were indeed achieved, if any, during the call.
And to what point Saudis can push their criticism of US involvement, rather than simply posturing about Israel itself.
As expected, PressTV provides a more ambitious (but not sensationalist) reconstruction of the talks, including the shared acknowledgement not only of actively perpetrated war crimes, but also indirect “destructive support”…

Posted by: MoaMetal | Oct 12 2023 8:23 utc | 21

Some diplomatic heft from IndianPunchline:

A protracted war in Gaza will be a colossal drain on Israel’s resources and can only weaken the country. Its outcome remains anybody’s guess. But on the other hand, Israel believes that it has no diplomatic options, either. On top of it, if Hezbollah enters the fray, all that happened last Saturday in Israel will seem a picnic. With its massive stockpile of advanced missiles — close to 200,000 rockets trained on virtually every nook and corner of Israel — Hezbollah has the capability to destroy Israel comprehensively.
Principally, the deployment of two US aircraft carriers in Eastern Mediterranean is intended to send a strong message to Hezbollah. On the other hand, it also highlights that in addition to Ukraine and Taiwan, the West Asian theatre will continue to engage the US for a foreseeable future. If this is not imperial overstretch, what is it? Something has to give way.

My humble opinion regarding what we can expect to give way: the myth of US naval power. How many hobbyists do you suppose are experimenting with cheap marine drones; and how ready is the crew of the USS Gerald Ford — that relic of a previous naval era — for what’s headed their way?

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Oct 12 2023 8:28 utc | 23

Until Hezbolah tries to take out the big refinery complex north of Jaffa, they aren’t fully participating. Attacks on the refinery will be the tell.

Posted by: Exile | Oct 12 2023 8:43 utc | 25

,,Civilians are protected under the laws of armed conflict, and they should be given every opportunity to avoid the fighting,” says mr. Kirby!!! When ever has the Zionist state spared civilians in its actions against the so – called ,,human animals” (the Zionist state’s own words)??? And lets be clear: the US doesn’t give a rat about civilians in Palestine, if so, it would have stopped the Zionist state a long long time ago. Regards

Posted by: Siggi | Oct 12 2023 9:02 utc | 27

Posted by: Boris Badenov | Oct 12 2023 7:34 utc | 1
Nice try.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 12 2023 9:07 utc | 29

It seems Hasbara’s mission today is to spread the “but we had to slaughter babies with thermobaric bombs to target senior Hamas cadres, and it’s all their fault for building underground tunnels” talking points across various blogs.
I’m glad they proved that Hamas doesn’t kill adult “civilians” in pseudo-“Israel”. This is not only because of the long history of Zionist colonial murderous aggression, but also because every adult “Israeli” is a reservist/militia member with a gun at all times (these Zionist ID’s always cite the same Zionist sources), and according to their “logic”, members of Hamas would have to kill them just in case they attacked out of the blue as potential soldiers:
“No idea about the extent of that, but it’s something to consider when trying to understand why Hamas was/is doing what it’s doing.”
“But at present, Hamas might have decided (in rage) to kill them all in one stroke. That might explain some of the killings we’re seeing, and why IDF currently seems (?) rather disorganized.”

Posted by: Colin | Oct 12 2023 9:08 utc | 31

about a number of things, such as the possibilities you mention below.
but it’s something to consider when trying to understand why IDF is doing what it’s doing.
2. It seems possible that IDF had considerable knowledge about Hamas leadership identity and locations. Under normal circumstances, it might seem advantageous to track, spy on conversations, etc. But at present, IDF might have decided (in rage) to kill them all in one stroke. That might explain some of the bombings we’re seeing, and why Hamas currently seems (?) rather disorganized.
3. AFAIK, we haven’t yet seen any hostage or execution videos from Hamas. That seems surprising. Maybe they’re just hiding. Or maybe their organization has been disrupted.
Posted by: Boris Badenov | Oct 12 2023 7:34 utc | 1

Posted by: pretzelattack | Oct 12 2023 9:10 utc | 33

Posted by: Colin | Oct 12 2023 9:08 utc | 20
Every sophistry of the Hasbara trolls can be used in reverse to whitewash Hamas as pure and innocent angels. This is a good example of how the most moderate Zionists (even the so-called “post-Zionists”) are more extreme and more terrorist than Hamas.

Posted by: Colin | Oct 12 2023 9:12 utc | 35

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Oct 12 2023 8:28 utc | 13

A protracted war in Gaza will be a colossal drain on Israel’s resources and can only weaken the country. Its outcome remains anybody’s guess.

I’m a pessimist on the israeli economy giving way though. Just look at Ukraine: All that will happen is that Uncle Sugar will pony up a cool trillion from the printing presses to pump into their economy pronto.
Think that sounds insane? You’re right! Will they do it? Yes!

My humble opinion regarding what we can expect to give way: the myth of US naval power. How many hobbyists do you suppose are experimenting with cheap marine drones; and how ready is the crew of the USS Gerald Ford — that relic of a previous naval era — for what’s headed their way?

It’s a stretch from a political perspective but technically the resistance have more that hobby drones in their arsenal. If they wanted to they could put a serious hole in a U.S carrier:
Hezbollah releases video of hitting Israeli warship Sa’ar-5 in 33-day war
Things have come a long way since the INS Hanit …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 12 2023 9:16 utc | 37

Every sophistry of the Hasbara trolls can be used in reverse to whitewash Hamas as pure and innocent angels.
Posted by: Colin | Oct 12 2023 9:12 utc | 23
Every sophistry of the hasbara trolls can be applied against the IDF itself.
That’s the entire stupidity of their approach and why it’s so easy to spot.
To embrace hasbara one must start from the axiom that the zionist occupation is inherently just, that all moral logic only applies in one direction (towards the Palestinians) and that only the israeli occupation has moral agency.
That peculiarity of their reasoning is the “tell” and it’s glows as balefully as hell.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 12 2023 9:23 utc | 39

@ 2 by Exile
A reasonable person by now has to assume that absolutely everything and anything the Western media say is a lie and nothing but a lie – 100.00% on the lie score. The fact that the lie patterns are repetitive only serves to fool those who are too dumb to stay away from the Western MSM and Social Media (except X). So here we have the same old pattern, this time the Ghost of Kibbutz, a young women who kills professional soldiers without really trying, just by virtue of being from the Master Race.
I must say that I personally believed the bull about deliberate killing of civilians by Hamas for all of a couple of minutes. Then my critical mind kicked in and I knew that these are blatant lies, that is until I thought of the poor Belgian babies being bayoneted by the German soldiers or thrown out of Kuwaiti incubators. The moment the public media mention babies or raped women (with or without the help of Viagra pills, brought to you by Phyzer), only complete morons consume the swill.

Posted by: Kiza | Oct 12 2023 9:26 utc | 41

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 12 2023 9:16 utc | 25
Yes, but the Ukrainian economy is still suffering.
And there is a greater lack of actual weapons than of money.
Still, it’s as interesting to see how some Republican legislators pretending to be anti-war are actively supporting ethnic cleansing this time around as it is to see how “progressives” pretending to be leftists are all against Palestine.

Posted by: Colin | Oct 12 2023 9:27 utc | 43

A communication from the Al Quds brigade spokesman of Islamic Jihad:

The military spokesperson for Islamic Jihad’s Al-Quds Brigades, Abu Hamza, has sent a stark warning to ‘Israel’ that its occupation of Palestinian territories will soon face a multi-front confrontation.
In an audio speech regarding the developments of Operation Al-Aqsa Flood, Abu Hamza revealed that the battle may soon expand to include the occupied Palestinian territories in 1948.
He stressed that the scope of fire is expanding, and what the Israeli occupation witnessed in South Lebanon was just a small example of what is coming its way.
Abu Hamza called on all Palestinians in the West Bank to engage in confrontations with the Israeli occupation, reassuring everyone victory was imminent.

(3 hours ago)

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 12 2023 9:28 utc | 45

Kiza | Oct 12 2023 9:26 utc | 29 “…time the Ghost of Kibbutz, a young women who kills professional soldiers without really trying”
Obviously a woman with shills on par with the Ukraine granny who knocked drones out of the sky with pickle jars.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 12 2023 9:32 utc | 47

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 12 2023 9:23 utc | 27
Yes, the implicit logic of Zionism is just like that.
“Our civilians are threatened/killed with violence, so we have to kill their civilians just for security” is the perfect justification for any number of possible “Israeli” civilian deaths in this Hamas operation. Tens or hundreds of thousands of “Israeli” civilian deaths and injuries should not be attributed in any way to Hamas, considering that Zionists always see no problem with retaliation tenfold or a hundredfold.
Those who claim “both sides” tend to follow a similar Zionist logic, i.e., that the two sides must be held to different moral standards, or else the massacres of the victimizers are so much more severe and the collateral damage in the resistance of the victims so much more minor that the two cannot be equated.

Posted by: Colin | Oct 12 2023 9:37 utc | 49

Arch Bungle | Oct 12 2023 9:28 utc | 32
Al-Aqsa Flood – that is what I was trying to remember in the previous thread. Also the name of the Jerusalem Mosque. I assume that also refers to a long past event.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 12 2023 9:39 utc | 51

blockade for softening up and driving palestinians into Egypt followed by ground assault for mopping up; when that happens I would expect that most palestinians left there will be executed on the spot regardless of status aside from some taken for interrogation or show.
Posted by: Satepestage | Oct 12 2023 9:35 utc | 34
If that’s the game plan why did they bomb the Rafah crossing? It’s closed now.
They don’t plan to drive the Palestinians anywhere.
They plan to turn Gaza into a mass grave and build the “Jewish State” over it.
They can’t afford a Palestinian population alive anywhere – not in Gaza or out of it.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 12 2023 9:42 utc | 53

Technical Military Questions:
The IDF is now in a difficult position. The politicians are braying for blood. Hamas is dug in, eager to fight Stalingrad style. No way will the IDF take the Hamas bait. So IDF will bomb them into the Stone Age.
The only problem is endless bombing only emboldens Hamas dug in their bunkers and caverns. The Viet Cong gleefully engaged US Army from the Tunnels of Chu Chi for nearly a decade. The VC smirked when they heard USAF bombs overhead.
Problem is, the IDF doesn’t have years to root out Hamas. The longer Hamas holds out and engages in pinprick raids, the more likely others join in the fight
exhibit number one – Pakistan Defense Minister threatening ballistic missiles
exhibit number two – hezbollah anti-ship missiles ( H/T Arch Bung)
So what’s the IDF gonna do when faced with this operational challenge ? My guess is try carpet bombing for a week or two , and hope for the best<\b>

Posted by: Exile | Oct 12 2023 9:48 utc | 55

Something that needs reconciling is the Palestinians proclaimed number of casualties and the Israelis proudly posting video of entire neighborhoods flattened.
My thought has been – How many of the civilian population of Gaza have gone underground.
As with the facade of the west, Israel may well rearrange the surface landscape of Gaza then declare victory.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 12 2023 9:59 utc | 57

The Al-Qassam really know how to wreck a party:
I’m surprised to see the resistance still taking bases up until yesterday. Would have expected them to have fallen back completely by then:
Al-Qassam resistance fighters storming an Israeli post belonging to the “Kissufim” Battalion, east of Khan Yunis

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 12 2023 10:00 utc | 59

@Exile | Oct 12 2023 7:37 utc | 2

Cute 25 year old blond kibbutz gal kills 5 Hamas attackers
Hamas attack on Israel: 25-year-old lures terrorists into a trap and prevents massacres (in German)

Kibbutzniks and other settlers are not “civilians”. The kibbutzim surrounding Gaza exist for the primary purpose of keeping the Palestinians out of their land, and for the secondary purpose of producing ever larger generations of devoted Zionists to occupy the land of Palestine.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Oct 12 2023 10:04 utc | 61

a vast network of tunnels and (I assume) caverns for storage. No idea about the extent of that, but it’s something to consider
Posted by: Boris Badenov | Oct 12 2023 7:34 utc | 1
—
Have you considered the vast network of tunnels between your ears?

Posted by: too scents | Oct 12 2023 10:06 utc | 63

Oh, the forsaken wisdom of George Washington and John Adams!
Our American Republic is rotting from within, yet our “leaders” concern themselves only with foreign adventures.
What saddens me most is how many of my fellow Americans are enthralled by all this, and persist in arguing about which foreign party is the good guys, and which is the bad guys.
Dual loyalties bring destruction. May God save us. 🙏

Posted by: OldFart | Oct 12 2023 10:15 utc | 65

The disgusting propaganda re 40 beheaded babies pushed by the lying liars of MSM is beyond the pale or perhaps I should say from the Pale.

Posted by: PBR Street Gang | Oct 12 2023 10:20 utc | 67

Posted by: Exile | Oct 12 2023 9:48 utc | 41
Yes, people underestimate the potential for asymmetric warfare.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 12 2023 10:00 utc | 44
Isn’t 300,000 troops enough? It looks very interesting.

Posted by: Colin | Oct 12 2023 10:25 utc | 69

Memory refresher of IRNA announcing Iran’s new hypersonic missile “Fattah”.
https://en.irna.ir/news/85131999/Iran-s-IRGC-unveils-home-grown-hypersonic-missile
The simulated strike caused quite a stir at the time. Then the impact of the video was forgotten under Ukraine’s Summer offensive PR blitz.

Posted by: too scents | Oct 12 2023 10:27 utc | 71

The issue of targeting and collateral damage favourite expressions of the US to obfuscate deny their barbaric intent! Recall the UNICEF report of 1999 600,000 children perished in Iraq because of US sanctions described by US ex Secretary of State Madelaine Albright in 1996 as “a difficult choice but the price was worth it” the target being the government of Saddam Hussein. Two carrier fleets positioned in the Eastern Med to blockade and bomb Lebanon Syria if Hezbollah and the Resistence attack Israel leaving Israel free to flatten and level Gaza. This leopard and its proxy never change their spots!

Posted by: Rick | Oct 12 2023 10:28 utc | 73

Anybody that supports the Zionist entity at this point should have their head examined.

Posted by: PBR Street Gang | Oct 12 2023 10:33 utc | 75

US functionaries confidently claim that they can support both the war in Israel and in Ukraine, all with 100% borrowed money. This leads me to a conclusion that financial market pandemonium must be near. More than 10 years ago I wrote that US Zionist parasites will be whipping their US nag to death whilst they do not appear to have a replacement host. I am still in wonderment at who could become the next host. This Master Race is supposed to be super intelligent and yet they do not know how to stop the financial whipping of their only nag. Who will finance and die for Israel once the nag collapses? Even if they found Ukrainian Nazis to force ordinary Ukrainians to die for the dismemberment and exploitation of Russia, most of the financing for this came from US. Perhaps the calculus was to parasitise both Israel and US off Russia (on resources and on population, just like in Ukraine) and perhaps this is why they are dreaming of financing both wars at the same time. Even a third one against Iran. China war talk is pure bull, never took that seriously, the nag would be stone dead by the due date.
PS. It takes one single listen to Alistair Crooke to understand the current Israeli war.

Posted by: Kiza | Oct 12 2023 10:35 utc | 77

The war against Afghanistan wasn’t a waste of money in the eyes of USUKIS because the destruction of Israel will come from Afghanistan.
The Israelis rejected their prophets, but they know much better than us Westerners what is prophecied for their disobedience. They think they can stave it off nukes, with wars, with genocides, and with cash.
It has always been theoretically possible that a pious generation of Jews might repent and turn back to God.
Meanwhile Heaven I eternity is guaranteed for their victims in Gaza.
The timing of the day that God destroys USUKIS or shows them their prophet Eesa alaihi Salam / Jesus in person is not in our hands here at MoA. No amount of straining on the potty is going to do that.

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 12 2023 10:39 utc | 79

Dare I raise the elephant in the room question?
The war against China did not start with the excuse of the pirate island Formosa just off its coast.
It has started instead with the pirated land in the Palestine.
These aircraft carrier groups are the first move in the general mobilisation, the false flag is the Hamas ‘invasion’ , it was obviously long planned.
The elephant in the room that no one has mentioned, including b afaik, is the Chinese diplomatic efforts and associations in the Middle East – starting with the Saudi /Iranian rapprochement ( Iran is a full member of SCO now and is therefore protected by their common security treaty – attack one, attack all. This is a real ‘article 5’ thing unlike the make believe 2% fire insurance gangsters of the US )
Xi also made a massive media exploitation of the Assad’s state visit just a couple of weeks ago. That clearly shows the world that he has got Syrias back , whilst they also join the SCO.
China has also been in contact with the Palestinian authorities- I doubt Hamas quislings are to be included in any future Palestine State.
Yup we are now approaching boiling frog status – that boiling frog being the blinkered march to a mass world wide conflagration. Where many millions will die in the name of the Wests right to Rules for the rest of the world but not ourselves.
The Old Unipolar Empire – a continuous process for centuries under different guises , is Dead, Dead, Dead a mere zombie , that now exist only by human flesh , minced or not.
It is now clear to me why Hamas attacked . It’s because the Chinese cannot be stopped and the once an Ashkenazi always a Nazis’s and their Natzo forces have failed to achieve their aim of extending Russia and failed in formenting the subcontinentals and south East Asians into hanging up against China to stop the SCO and BRICS+
If even the Pakistanis, Saudi and UAE quislings have turned their coats against their fealty to the Wests Master Race its all over. Though I don’t trust their bought generals as far as they could be spat. That fat lady ain’t yet singing , never mind the idle noises off stage by the Egyptians, Qataris and other so called friends of the long suffering Palestinians ; which they have not done ANYTHING about whilst building their glass cities in the deserts and airport hubs, which can collapse and disappear under the silica they are made from with one large thunderous shattering clap!
The final pieces whose move on the chessboard will determine whether it’s a bang or a whimper for the end of the Collective Wests never ending imperialism are India and Pakistan. It’s down to their peoples to get the leaders to do the right thing for all of humanity and not just for their quisling personal gains as tools of the Collective Waste – taking their peoples and lands down the same sewer that we are now well on our way down in Europe.
It’s a choice for the WHOLE of humanity, not just some ‘golden billion’. Will we live in a Rules or Laws based world order or die trying to protect the unipolar ancient slave masters and owners.
Still not feeling the heat? Maybe a quick jump out of the pan might help – but I doubt anyone under the deluded Atrocity Propagandised West will.
When Xi speaks directly to this question – as Biden Admin are demanding he comes to meet them having failed with their stream of idiot henchman demanding to be received in China – his word as the Voice of the SCO will be final.
The Elephant will not be ignored and is the mightiest beast in the Jungle , Garden fences are just minor annoyances when they want to cross them. 😉

Posted by: DunGroanin | Oct 12 2023 10:42 utc | 81

PS. It takes one single listen to Alistair Crooke to understand the current Israeli war.
Posted by: Kiza | Oct 12 2023 10:35 utc | 57
Absolutely. Which is why I entertain none of the hasbara nonsense that pops up on these forums so frequently.
I’m halfway through his recent (last night) interview with Mercouris and Diesen:
Extremist Politics in Israel and Ukraine – Alastair Crooke, Alexander Mercouris and Glenn Diesen
First hand accounts from Crooke on his discussions with Netanyahoo and the Zionist occupation leadership during the Oslo accords phase and later.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 12 2023 10:43 utc | 83

>>Iran’s new hypersonic missile “Fattah”.
Posted by: too scents | Oct 12 2023 10:27 utc | 53
If Iran has hypersonic missiles in any number, we may not be able to take the country on militarily. Sink a few aircraft carriers, something they would almost certainly be willing to do, and our ability to project power abroad goes way down. With certainty, going to war against the country would be a risky endeavor even beyond the normal hazards of war. Our neocons best chill out a little on thoughts about spreading the war to Iran.

Posted by: Jmaas | Oct 12 2023 10:46 utc | 85

This stuff about beaded babies is made from the same cloth as the lies of the Saudi ambassador’s daughter in Washington before Congress in the run up to Operation Desert Storm that she saw Iraqis pulling infants out of incubators and throwing them on the floor letting them die. Later it turned out she was just plain lying. The empire of lies is constantly repeating itself. Safe passage: what is Kirby talking about? Safe passage to Egypt where the residents of Gaza will be permanently trapped to set up more refugee camps, like those that appeared in Syria and Lebanon at the time of the Nakba. What is the source of such mega bullshit that has taken hold of the world lizard brain?

Posted by: Quentin | Oct 12 2023 10:48 utc | 87

I highly recommend that viewers watch the Alistair Crooke interview on the Duran. He is a rational and experienced diplomat. The hardliners have taken over in Israel, their objective is by any means to build their third temple on the site of the Al Aqsa mosque, and take over all Palestinian territories. This Gaza attack is just what they hoped for.

Posted by: Oh | Oct 12 2023 10:54 utc | 89

Posted by: Oh | Oct 12 2023 10:54 utc | 64
What I found most interesting about that interview is Crooke’s mention of the israeli leaders telling him that they could only commence the total takeover of Palestine when the US was at it’s weakest. As if the US was the one actually maintaining the status quo vis a vis the two state solution (plausible).
He concludes the Zionists may have chosen this time to allow zionist extremists to spark the Al Aqsa temple incident because they feel the US is weaked by the Urkaine war …
The notion that israel needs a weak USA to complete it’s takeover of Palestine is counterintuitive to me but echoed in the eschatological prophecy of Sheikh Imran Hossein who reasons that for israel to achieve world domination it requires the destruction of both Russia and the US.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 12 2023 11:00 utc | 91

……Kibbutzniks and other settlers are not “civilians”. The kibbutzim surrounding Gaza exist for the primary purpose of keeping the Palestinians out of their land, and for the secondary purpose of producing ever larger generations of devoted Zionists to occupy the land of Palestine.
Posted by: Petri Krohn | Oct 12 2023 10:04 utc | 46…….
It’s certainly a interesting question. Are colonialist farmers who keep automatic weapons by their sides ( men, women, and teenagers ) civilians ?

Posted by: Exile | Oct 12 2023 11:02 utc | 93

This stuff about beaded babies is made from the same cloth as the lies of the Saudi ambassador’s daughter in Washington before Congress in the run up to Operation Desert Storm that she saw Iraqis pulling infants out of incubators and throwing them on the floor letting them die.
Posted by: Quentin | Oct 12 2023 10:48 utc | 63
And in World War I the German troops were given to stabbing babies with their bayonets. Same old stuff. All our enemies are incredibly immoral, until they are not enemies anymore.

Posted by: Jmaas | Oct 12 2023 11:04 utc | 95

Hezbollah releases video of hitting Israeli warship Sa’ar-5 in 33-day war
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 12 2023 9:16 utc | 25
Sa’ar. Jom kippur, nimrod, ariel. I find it supremely amusing that these rancid swillbags have the names of Disney princesses and things from Tolkien, Star Trek and Betrayal at Krondor. I suppose the more rancid, the more amazing the name, to compensate.

Posted by: Michael A | Oct 12 2023 11:10 utc | 97

“I think we will find Israel entering into a quagmire into Gaza.” – Alistair Crook

Posted by: PBR Street Gang | Oct 12 2023 11:13 utc | 99