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October 5, 2023
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Don Bacon | Oct 6 2023 23:24 utc | 147 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 6 2023 23:54 utc | 301 Don Bacon | Oct 6 2023 23:24 utc | 147 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 6 2023 23:54 utc | 302 Typos again. Didn’t reread before posting. I guess you will get the gist of it Don, though mostly likely all a piece of history you are already aware of. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 6 2023 23:59 utc | 303 Typos again. Didn’t reread before posting. I guess you will get the gist of it Don, though mostly likely all a piece of history you are already aware of. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 6 2023 23:59 utc | 304 THE DAILY LYING GAME of U.S. ‘FREE’ press, lol! Posted by: MD | Oct 7 2023 0:19 utc | 305 THE DAILY LYING GAME of U.S. ‘FREE’ press, lol! Posted by: MD | Oct 7 2023 0:19 utc | 306 After the alleged attack on the AfD leader, Tino Chrupalla is in the intensive care unit of an Ingolstadt hospital. The JF learned that there was a puncture on his body. Posted by: MD | Oct 7 2023 1:09 utc | 307 After the alleged attack on the AfD leader, Tino Chrupalla is in the intensive care unit of an Ingolstadt hospital. The JF learned that there was a puncture on his body. Posted by: MD | Oct 7 2023 1:09 utc | 308 I’ve written twice before about the interaction of the West and Russia in arctic matters. Perhaps somebody is following me on this stuff, deep down in some Not-Ukraine thread forgotten tomorrow but here we go. The olds: Posted by: Konami | Oct 7 2023 1:10 utc | 309 I’ve written twice before about the interaction of the West and Russia in arctic matters. Perhaps somebody is following me on this stuff, deep down in some Not-Ukraine thread forgotten tomorrow but here we go. The olds: Posted by: Konami | Oct 7 2023 1:10 utc | 310 Riots under fascist MODI in India Posted by: MD | Oct 7 2023 1:17 utc | 311 Riots under fascist MODI in India Posted by: MD | Oct 7 2023 1:17 utc | 312 Thanks so much Karlof1 once again for the translation of the entire speech. I agree with others that US leadership is incapable of such a speech. All just pre-formed platitudes, soundbites, and childish cartoon caricatures of “Putin is a butcher”, Russian aggression”, “defending Our Democracy and the Rules-Based-Order”, etc. Posted by: Wisco | Oct 7 2023 1:49 utc | 313 Thanks so much Karlof1 once again for the translation of the entire speech. I agree with others that US leadership is incapable of such a speech. All just pre-formed platitudes, soundbites, and childish cartoon caricatures of “Putin is a butcher”, Russian aggression”, “defending Our Democracy and the Rules-Based-Order”, etc. Posted by: Wisco | Oct 7 2023 1:49 utc | 314 Strange event – unannounced sudden visit of German President Steinmeier to Washington, this Friday. Steinmeier is titular head, not the head of the government. He met with Pres. Biden and CIA Burns. Strange event – unannounced sudden visit of German President Steinmeier to Washington, this Friday. Steinmeier is titular head, not the head of the government. He met with Pres. Biden and CIA Burns. In typical fashion, the Syrian military retaliates for an attack on officers at a military academy — a legitimate military target — by attacking civilians in Idlib, a war crime. https://twitter.com/KenRoth/status/1710186308763590674 Posted by: farm ecologist | Oct 7 2023 1:55 utc | 317 In typical fashion, the Syrian military retaliates for an attack on officers at a military academy — a legitimate military target — by attacking civilians in Idlib, a war crime. https://twitter.com/KenRoth/status/1710186308763590674 Posted by: farm ecologist | Oct 7 2023 1:55 utc | 318 fanto: yes, that’s intriguing. Steinmeier’s protocol had other plans, so the trip to the Masters of the Universe was improvised. We’ve all been wondering what it was, and why Steinmeier. Posted by: Konami | Oct 7 2023 2:01 utc | 319 fanto: yes, that’s intriguing. Steinmeier’s protocol had other plans, so the trip to the Masters of the Universe was improvised. We’ve all been wondering what it was, and why Steinmeier. Posted by: Konami | Oct 7 2023 2:01 utc | 320 Konami | Oct 7 2023 1:10 utc | 155– Konami | Oct 7 2023 1:10 utc | 155– Mao said in 1938 that “political power grows out of the barrel of a gun”. The US has its 2nd amendment, now the PRC has forced itself into arming some citizens too… Posted by: Antonym | Oct 7 2023 2:21 utc | 323 Mao said in 1938 that “political power grows out of the barrel of a gun”. The US has its 2nd amendment, now the PRC has forced itself into arming some citizens too… Posted by: Antonym | Oct 7 2023 2:21 utc | 324 Thanks much for your thoughts on this thread Peter AU1. Posted by: Wisco | Oct 7 2023 2:48 utc | 325 Thanks much for your thoughts on this thread Peter AU1. Posted by: Wisco | Oct 7 2023 2:48 utc | 326 I was interested the other day seeing a WEF presser where a lady talked about how disappointed they were the planet failed to get vaccinated. And how they are upset nobody seems to care about their pet project of climate change. They were excited to reveal the upcoming water crisis will get everyone’s attention . I’m like 71% of the planet is water . Technology has desalination etc so there won’t be too many problems. How are they going to pull that off. But let’s not underestimate these evii guys that have the time to sit around hatching folders full of evil schemes Posted by: Hankster | Oct 7 2023 3:56 utc | 329 I was interested the other day seeing a WEF presser where a lady talked about how disappointed they were the planet failed to get vaccinated. And how they are upset nobody seems to care about their pet project of climate change. They were excited to reveal the upcoming water crisis will get everyone’s attention . I’m like 71% of the planet is water . Technology has desalination etc so there won’t be too many problems. How are they going to pull that off. But let’s not underestimate these evii guys that have the time to sit around hatching folders full of evil schemes Posted by: Hankster | Oct 7 2023 3:56 utc | 330 There were news recently. The first cargo ship from China, using the Arctic Sea route arrive to Kaliningrad. Obviously they still have to go around the Barents and North Sea but the save in time and cost is very substantial, IIRC in the tune of 30% of distance. Posted by: unimperator | Oct 7 2023 4:38 utc | 331 There were news recently. The first cargo ship from China, using the Arctic Sea route arrive to Kaliningrad. Obviously they still have to go around the Barents and North Sea but the save in time and cost is very substantial, IIRC in the tune of 30% of distance. Posted by: unimperator | Oct 7 2023 4:38 utc | 332 Reuters posting titles for this night , West coast of US Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 7 2023 4:50 utc | 333 Reuters posting titles for this night , West coast of US Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 7 2023 4:50 utc | 334 German President Steinmeier is one of the uninficted war criminals who pursued the illegal and genocidal wars in Lybia, Iraq, and Afghanistan. Around 30-40% of the German voters are in favor of peace. The War Party in Washington is trying ti figure out how to keep Berlin on the reservation. They think Steinmeier has the inside scoop. Therefore, the Steinmeier visit. Posted by: Exile | Oct 7 2023 5:15 utc | 335 German President Steinmeier is one of the uninficted war criminals who pursued the illegal and genocidal wars in Lybia, Iraq, and Afghanistan. Around 30-40% of the German voters are in favor of peace. The War Party in Washington is trying ti figure out how to keep Berlin on the reservation. They think Steinmeier has the inside scoop. Therefore, the Steinmeier visit. Posted by: Exile | Oct 7 2023 5:15 utc | 336 The early stirrings for the creation of the phantasmagorical International Rule Based Order?
With refs to Kosovo, NATO, globalization, EU – US nexus, global security,
What’s good for Blair, NATO and Kosovo/Serbia and “genocide/ethnic cleansing” in 1999 still isn’t OK 24 years later when it is Russia interfering based on new R2P UN sanctioned legal actions in Donbas/Ukraine to stop “genocide/ethnic cleansing” of citizens.
Mmmm, those poor oppressed “ethnic Albanian civilians” of Kosovo. Sounds like none of them were actively fighting a separatist civil war or carrying out terrorist attacks against ethnic-Serb civilians or the govt police forces. I must have been mistaken. Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Oct 7 2023 6:52 utc | 337 The early stirrings for the creation of the phantasmagorical International Rule Based Order?
With refs to Kosovo, NATO, globalization, EU – US nexus, global security,
What’s good for Blair, NATO and Kosovo/Serbia and “genocide/ethnic cleansing” in 1999 still isn’t OK 24 years later when it is Russia interfering based on new R2P UN sanctioned legal actions in Donbas/Ukraine to stop “genocide/ethnic cleansing” of citizens.
Mmmm, those poor oppressed “ethnic Albanian civilians” of Kosovo. Sounds like none of them were actively fighting a separatist civil war or carrying out terrorist attacks against ethnic-Serb civilians or the govt police forces. I must have been mistaken. Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Oct 7 2023 6:52 utc | 338 @ 167. Posted by: Urban Fox | Oct 7 2023 7:18 utc | 339 @ 167. Posted by: Urban Fox | Oct 7 2023 7:18 utc | 340 The first cargo ship from China, using the Arctic Sea route arrive to Kaliningrad. Posted by: waynorinorway | Oct 7 2023 7:20 utc | 341 The first cargo ship from China, using the Arctic Sea route arrive to Kaliningrad. Posted by: waynorinorway | Oct 7 2023 7:20 utc | 342 karlof1 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 7 2023 7:42 utc | 343 karlof1 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 7 2023 7:42 utc | 344 re Lavrov’s Dog | Oct 7 2023 6:52 utc | 169
Curious yes?
So I dug a little deeper to push how controlled by the western establishment/govts ChatGPT is:
So I dug further …. what about the other side – are they more like the KLA Albanians?
That’s a nice out for the pro-Ukrainians. A very different FRAMING than the separatists. As was the “been accused of” light touch. And the UKR Govt “has generally pursued” is another subtle touch that obviously means – NOT AT ALL TIMES. Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Oct 7 2023 7:58 utc | 345 re Lavrov’s Dog | Oct 7 2023 6:52 utc | 169
Curious yes?
So I dug a little deeper to push how controlled by the western establishment/govts ChatGPT is:
So I dug further …. what about the other side – are they more like the KLA Albanians?
That’s a nice out for the pro-Ukrainians. A very different FRAMING than the separatists. As was the “been accused of” light touch. And the UKR Govt “has generally pursued” is another subtle touch that obviously means – NOT AT ALL TIMES. Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Oct 7 2023 7:58 utc | 346 Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Oct 7 2023 7:58 utc | 173 Posted by: andy | Oct 7 2023 8:45 utc | 347 Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Oct 7 2023 7:58 utc | 173 Posted by: andy | Oct 7 2023 8:45 utc | 348 Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Oct 7 2023 7:58 utc | 173
And another word I treasure: Posted by: juliania | Oct 7 2023 9:26 utc | 349 Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Oct 7 2023 7:58 utc | 173
And another word I treasure: Posted by: juliania | Oct 7 2023 9:26 utc | 350 https://nitter.net/thesiriusreport Posted by: MD | Oct 7 2023 11:06 utc | 351 https://nitter.net/thesiriusreport Posted by: MD | Oct 7 2023 11:06 utc | 352 Denis Kapustin, founder of the so-called RDK “Slave Volunteer Corps”, issued an urgent statement. Posted by: Hankster | Oct 7 2023 11:23 utc | 353 Denis Kapustin, founder of the so-called RDK “Slave Volunteer Corps”, issued an urgent statement. Posted by: Hankster | Oct 7 2023 11:23 utc | 354 https://canadianpatriot.org/2023/09/26/the-enemy-within-a-story-of-the-purge-of-american-intelligence-3/ Posted by: MD | Oct 7 2023 14:13 utc | 355 https://canadianpatriot.org/2023/09/26/the-enemy-within-a-story-of-the-purge-of-american-intelligence-3/ Posted by: MD | Oct 7 2023 14:13 utc | 356 https://metallicman.com/radioactive-steaks/ Posted by: MD | Oct 7 2023 14:18 utc | 357 https://metallicman.com/radioactive-steaks/ Posted by: MD | Oct 7 2023 14:18 utc | 358 “I have zero doubt the journalists will face intense backlash from the usual anti-China crowd,” – MD Posted by: lester | Oct 7 2023 16:43 utc | 359 “I have zero doubt the journalists will face intense backlash from the usual anti-China crowd,” – MD Posted by: lester | Oct 7 2023 16:43 utc | 360 “There’s that heavenly Jerusalem project in Ukraine” – Hankster Posted by: lester | Oct 7 2023 17:32 utc | 361 “There’s that heavenly Jerusalem project in Ukraine” – Hankster Posted by: lester | Oct 7 2023 17:32 utc | 362 Potential RISC-V restrictions by US ‘doomed to fail’: experts Posted by: daffyDuct | Oct 7 2023 17:46 utc | 363 Potential RISC-V restrictions by US ‘doomed to fail’: experts Posted by: daffyDuct | Oct 7 2023 17:46 utc | 364 Seems that the EU have just given Erdogan another punch on the nose: Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Oct 7 2023 19:05 utc | 365 Seems that the EU have just given Erdogan another punch on the nose: Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Oct 7 2023 19:05 utc | 366 Posted by: waynorinorway | Oct 7 2023 7:20 utc | 171 Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Oct 7 2023 20:01 utc | 367 Posted by: waynorinorway | Oct 7 2023 7:20 utc | 171 Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Oct 7 2023 20:01 utc | 368 What per centage of Americans know where Taiwan is? What per centage do NOT confuse the place with Thailand? Posted by: lester | Oct 8 2023 1:32 utc | 369 What per centage of Americans know where Taiwan is? What per centage do NOT confuse the place with Thailand? Posted by: lester | Oct 8 2023 1:32 utc | 370 juliania | Oct 7 2023 9:26 utc | 175 Posted by: l | Oct 8 2023 1:55 utc | 371 juliania | Oct 7 2023 9:26 utc | 175 Posted by: l | Oct 8 2023 1:55 utc | 372 This is an article from the “Center for Strategic and International Studies”. The main exhibit is a satellite picture of a railway station linking Russia and North Korea. The article is weak on facts, big on speculation. Posted by: Passerby | Oct 8 2023 12:58 utc | 373 This is an article from the “Center for Strategic and International Studies”. The main exhibit is a satellite picture of a railway station linking Russia and North Korea. The article is weak on facts, big on speculation. Posted by: Passerby | Oct 8 2023 12:58 utc | 374 So, basically, the US has a satellite picture of a train sitting in a railway station near Russia. I would fully expect the US has a (semi)automated system, able to track a railroad car through satellite pictures. Not worth their salt if they haven’t. Posted by: Passerby | Oct 8 2023 13:13 utc | 375 So, basically, the US has a satellite picture of a train sitting in a railway station near Russia. I would fully expect the US has a (semi)automated system, able to track a railroad car through satellite pictures. Not worth their salt if they haven’t. Posted by: Passerby | Oct 8 2023 13:13 utc | 376 Posted by: l | Oct 8 2023 1:55 utc | 186 Posted by: juliania | Oct 9 2023 3:44 utc | 377 Posted by: l | Oct 8 2023 1:55 utc | 186 Posted by: juliania | Oct 9 2023 3:44 utc | 378 |
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