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The evidence for a major event 12900 years ago is mounting. Prior to that time, evolved human cultures existed as is evidenced in many places around the world.
Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 5 2023 20:29 utc | 37
Yes, and the 2070 event might mirror it.
Posted by: Newbie | Oct 6 2023 10:59 utc | 201
The evidence for a major event 12900 years ago is mounting. Prior to that time, evolved human cultures existed as is evidenced in many places around the world.
Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 5 2023 20:29 utc | 37
Yes, and the 2070 event might mirror it.
Posted by: Newbie | Oct 6 2023 10:59 utc | 202
@Ed 51 and @fanto 86
About Scientific objectivity Galilei Galileo and Relativity
Please some time take a look at what the Larouche circle have revealed about Galileo as an asset of Venetian intel
https://larouchepub.com/eiw/public/1994/eirv21n38-19940923/eirv21n38-19940923_018-how_the_dead_souls_of_venice_cor.pdf
It changes the meaning of what liberals have accoustomed us to think about it.
What somewhat hampers the reach of Larouche and his associates is, in my view, that their learning is so much wider than other observers that one becomes overwhelmed.
And one has to go back and reread later until one is able to absorb and digest the facts of true history.
Concerning relativity.
Yes it was the result of many scientists thinking.
Einstein contributed with the alternative viewpoint of turning constant speed of light into a postulate.
This was, like Columbi Egg, almost embarrassingly simple.
But from that postulate it was easier to formulate consistent laws of physics.
Yet other physicists were struggling to save some of the features of classical physics and that made such a postulate look unattractive, so they hesitated, leaving it for Einstein to see with fresh eyes.
This still is a problem and I suspect the simulation theory may provide a rational explanation.
Humans might never have encountered the strange things which happen close to lightspeed empirically in connection with practical space travel.
This because the background gas while thin is still too dense to allow such high speeds.
A ship designed for lower speeds would be fried and turned into a plasma.
So the reason physicists knew was through the math.
But they dont know why things are connected this way.
The simulation theory has a simple explanation.
Its all about the limited capacity of every real computer to update any simulation in real time.
The speed of light probably is closely related to the clockfrequency of the simulator.
And the available data would indicate to me that the frequency might be something like 10^23 Hz
That corresponds to the time it takes light to pass the length of a typical radius of an atomic nucleus.
If the simulator attempts to update any motion approaching lightspeed it would need to lower its performance.
It would have to limit its update of the length of the ship to be compressed in the direction of motion and to slow down every internal change.
This would be a simple explanation of Lohrentz contraction and time dilatation.
At the precise speed of light time stands still according to relativity and, in the present scheme, that corresponds to the unability of a 10^23Hz clockfrequency to update processes of the same frequency.
The simulation theory also provides a simple explanation for gravity as the result of finite updating capacity near large amounts of matter=large amounts of data to be updated.
By deliberately abstaining from updating data systematically chosen in a spherically symmetric manner and then compressing the data so updated dataamounts would fill in the nonupdated ‘pixels’. This would curve the geometry.
And this would be a wanted feature since the result is stable planetary orbits. Only 3Dspace 1D time and the 1/r^2 law of central force as well as causal signals are possible under those restrictions
Posted by: petergrfstrm | Oct 6 2023 11:21 utc | 203
@Ed 51 and @fanto 86
About Scientific objectivity Galilei Galileo and Relativity
Please some time take a look at what the Larouche circle have revealed about Galileo as an asset of Venetian intel
https://larouchepub.com/eiw/public/1994/eirv21n38-19940923/eirv21n38-19940923_018-how_the_dead_souls_of_venice_cor.pdf
It changes the meaning of what liberals have accoustomed us to think about it.
What somewhat hampers the reach of Larouche and his associates is, in my view, that their learning is so much wider than other observers that one becomes overwhelmed.
And one has to go back and reread later until one is able to absorb and digest the facts of true history.
Concerning relativity.
Yes it was the result of many scientists thinking.
Einstein contributed with the alternative viewpoint of turning constant speed of light into a postulate.
This was, like Columbi Egg, almost embarrassingly simple.
But from that postulate it was easier to formulate consistent laws of physics.
Yet other physicists were struggling to save some of the features of classical physics and that made such a postulate look unattractive, so they hesitated, leaving it for Einstein to see with fresh eyes.
This still is a problem and I suspect the simulation theory may provide a rational explanation.
Humans might never have encountered the strange things which happen close to lightspeed empirically in connection with practical space travel.
This because the background gas while thin is still too dense to allow such high speeds.
A ship designed for lower speeds would be fried and turned into a plasma.
So the reason physicists knew was through the math.
But they dont know why things are connected this way.
The simulation theory has a simple explanation.
Its all about the limited capacity of every real computer to update any simulation in real time.
The speed of light probably is closely related to the clockfrequency of the simulator.
And the available data would indicate to me that the frequency might be something like 10^23 Hz
That corresponds to the time it takes light to pass the length of a typical radius of an atomic nucleus.
If the simulator attempts to update any motion approaching lightspeed it would need to lower its performance.
It would have to limit its update of the length of the ship to be compressed in the direction of motion and to slow down every internal change.
This would be a simple explanation of Lohrentz contraction and time dilatation.
At the precise speed of light time stands still according to relativity and, in the present scheme, that corresponds to the unability of a 10^23Hz clockfrequency to update processes of the same frequency.
The simulation theory also provides a simple explanation for gravity as the result of finite updating capacity near large amounts of matter=large amounts of data to be updated.
By deliberately abstaining from updating data systematically chosen in a spherically symmetric manner and then compressing the data so updated dataamounts would fill in the nonupdated ‘pixels’. This would curve the geometry.
And this would be a wanted feature since the result is stable planetary orbits. Only 3Dspace 1D time and the 1/r^2 law of central force as well as causal signals are possible under those restrictions
Posted by: petergrfstrm | Oct 6 2023 11:21 utc | 204
US foreign policy has decimated the Venezuelan economy and turned the country into a shit hole and forced thousands of people to follow the money to the USA. Unable to deal with the new immigrants and unwilling to stop mutilating Venezuela’s economy, the USA has now decided to fly the immigrants back to their home country. This does present the Venezuelan government with an opportunity to strike back at the USA, at least in a small way. It could impound the planes carrying the deportees and imprison the pilots. It would be worthwhile because it would keep the immigrant pressure on the USA, which is the best weapon Venezuela has at present. https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/05/biden-deportation-venezuela-migrant-crisis-00120200
Posted by: Chas | Oct 6 2023 12:29 utc | 205
US foreign policy has decimated the Venezuelan economy and turned the country into a shit hole and forced thousands of people to follow the money to the USA. Unable to deal with the new immigrants and unwilling to stop mutilating Venezuela’s economy, the USA has now decided to fly the immigrants back to their home country. This does present the Venezuelan government with an opportunity to strike back at the USA, at least in a small way. It could impound the planes carrying the deportees and imprison the pilots. It would be worthwhile because it would keep the immigrant pressure on the USA, which is the best weapon Venezuela has at present. https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/05/biden-deportation-venezuela-migrant-crisis-00120200
Posted by: Chas | Oct 6 2023 12:29 utc | 206
I’m sure Karl has already covered most of this but can still recommend Putins (and Xi) road map for the multipolar world order.
‘President Putin outlines 6 ‘Civilizational Principles For the Post-NWO World’ during his Valdai speech. He outlined six principles Russia wants to adhere to and offers other nations to join.
https://nitter.net/liz_churchill10/status/1710092865542504706#m’
When Xi and Putin said it is a once in a hundred years since the changes they are bringing forth – they meant it.
Meanwhile the Collective Wasters continue their spree of grand and petty larceny. Their tickets have been clipped and they will not escape their fate. That will be criminal trials under the coming ‘new Nuremberg courts’.
Even if they are dead!
They think they have been so clever at converting and hiding the stolen money into actual Wealth for their heirs! I guess these heirs will have to learn to do without their lifetimes habits of entitlements and become normal humans instead, perhaps even having to work for their luxuries and travelling Economy.
Posted by: DunGroanin | Oct 6 2023 13:19 utc | 207
I’m sure Karl has already covered most of this but can still recommend Putins (and Xi) road map for the multipolar world order.
‘President Putin outlines 6 ‘Civilizational Principles For the Post-NWO World’ during his Valdai speech. He outlined six principles Russia wants to adhere to and offers other nations to join.
https://nitter.net/liz_churchill10/status/1710092865542504706#m’
When Xi and Putin said it is a once in a hundred years since the changes they are bringing forth – they meant it.
Meanwhile the Collective Wasters continue their spree of grand and petty larceny. Their tickets have been clipped and they will not escape their fate. That will be criminal trials under the coming ‘new Nuremberg courts’.
Even if they are dead!
They think they have been so clever at converting and hiding the stolen money into actual Wealth for their heirs! I guess these heirs will have to learn to do without their lifetimes habits of entitlements and become normal humans instead, perhaps even having to work for their luxuries and travelling Economy.
Posted by: DunGroanin | Oct 6 2023 13:19 utc | 208
And this would be a wanted feature since the result is stable planetary orbits. Only 3Dspace 1D time and the 1/r^2 law of central force as well as causal signals are possible under those restrictions
Posted by: petergrfstrm | Oct 6 2023 11:21 utc | 101
I don’t think the world is a simulation, and I don’t think that much of LaRouche, but I do think you are in the right ballpark there. To have a world of separate evolving “things” there has to be locality, some notion of distance. All things seem to proceed on the basis of local information, what is nearby (except for spooky action at a distance entanglement). The speed of light is the speed of energy, infinite speed means that everything is right next to everything else. Infinity messes everything up. You cannot have it. For the same reason you cannot have infinite precision, at the low end everything gets fuzzy, out of focus.
As it is, the universe is very big, and most of it is very far away, and thus the world of many things is possible and inevitable.
Posted by: Bemildred | Oct 6 2023 13:27 utc | 209
And this would be a wanted feature since the result is stable planetary orbits. Only 3Dspace 1D time and the 1/r^2 law of central force as well as causal signals are possible under those restrictions
Posted by: petergrfstrm | Oct 6 2023 11:21 utc | 101
I don’t think the world is a simulation, and I don’t think that much of LaRouche, but I do think you are in the right ballpark there. To have a world of separate evolving “things” there has to be locality, some notion of distance. All things seem to proceed on the basis of local information, what is nearby (except for spooky action at a distance entanglement). The speed of light is the speed of energy, infinite speed means that everything is right next to everything else. Infinity messes everything up. You cannot have it. For the same reason you cannot have infinite precision, at the low end everything gets fuzzy, out of focus.
As it is, the universe is very big, and most of it is very far away, and thus the world of many things is possible and inevitable.
Posted by: Bemildred | Oct 6 2023 13:27 utc | 210
Most present-day wars and other disasters are caused by the tendency of people with limitless wealth disorder (LWD) to usurp government, communications, and critical economic systems. Since people with LWD are nearly always sadistic and socially suicidal, they need to be forcibly placed in rehabilitation facilities. If the mal-educated population fails to demand this absolutely nothing will ever change. The multitudes of the mal-educated will continue to insist that their rulers will never allow this. However of course, a journey of a thousand miles always begins with a single step.
Posted by: blues | Oct 6 2023 13:31 utc | 211
Most present-day wars and other disasters are caused by the tendency of people with limitless wealth disorder (LWD) to usurp government, communications, and critical economic systems. Since people with LWD are nearly always sadistic and socially suicidal, they need to be forcibly placed in rehabilitation facilities. If the mal-educated population fails to demand this absolutely nothing will ever change. The multitudes of the mal-educated will continue to insist that their rulers will never allow this. However of course, a journey of a thousand miles always begins with a single step.
Posted by: blues | Oct 6 2023 13:31 utc | 212
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 6 2023 10:11 utc | 98
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Peter thank you for sharing your story.
So many thoughts I would like to write down that it would become a long and boring book. Accumulated human knowledge, the walk of life, the school of hard knocks… Much room for thought
This has become my life’s project. It irks me to think that each generation (and increasingly so in the West) has to learn the same things over and over and over again. Seems so wasteful and unproductive to me.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 6 2023 14:13 utc | 213
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 6 2023 10:11 utc | 98
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Peter thank you for sharing your story.
So many thoughts I would like to write down that it would become a long and boring book. Accumulated human knowledge, the walk of life, the school of hard knocks… Much room for thought
This has become my life’s project. It irks me to think that each generation (and increasingly so in the West) has to learn the same things over and over and over again. Seems so wasteful and unproductive to me.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 6 2023 14:13 utc | 214
Posted by: crone | Oct 5 2023 21:06 utc | 44
I add to what others have said concerning Putin’s faith that you can see it in his Valdai speech and in how he answers the questions.
Putin believes strongly in multi-culturalism as a vital element of national identity, and that is not alien to Christianity. We all know the story of the good Samaritan – Samaritans were not Jews! And there are two others – the Samaritan woman and even the Canaanite woman, who answered him back!
Christ himself was multicultural. And in Samaria, the disciples themselves wondered that he was talking to a woman! They weren’t quite there yet 😉
But they walked everywhere, in sandals.
Posted by: juliania | Oct 6 2023 14:15 utc | 215
Posted by: crone | Oct 5 2023 21:06 utc | 44
I add to what others have said concerning Putin’s faith that you can see it in his Valdai speech and in how he answers the questions.
Putin believes strongly in multi-culturalism as a vital element of national identity, and that is not alien to Christianity. We all know the story of the good Samaritan – Samaritans were not Jews! And there are two others – the Samaritan woman and even the Canaanite woman, who answered him back!
Christ himself was multicultural. And in Samaria, the disciples themselves wondered that he was talking to a woman! They weren’t quite there yet 😉
But they walked everywhere, in sandals.
Posted by: juliania | Oct 6 2023 14:15 utc | 216
petergrfstrm @ 101
The learning of the Larouchies is not broad, it is a pose. A charade.
Comical they should push Galileo as Venetian intel agent. Larouche was an intel agent.
Posted by: oldhippie | Oct 6 2023 14:18 utc | 217
petergrfstrm @ 101
The learning of the Larouchies is not broad, it is a pose. A charade.
Comical they should push Galileo as Venetian intel agent. Larouche was an intel agent.
Posted by: oldhippie | Oct 6 2023 14:18 utc | 218
The treatment of Putin as a public figure in the West is an interesting mystery – that I think can be solved.
Suppose a group of assassins went about killing various Western leaders? What difference would it make? None of them are in any way essential. Scholz, Sunak, Biden, and all the EU leaders. You could drag the bodies away and just have the next in line,step forward and all the policies are the same.
Not so with Putin ( or Xi, to a degree). Love or hate him, he has – and continues to have – a profound influence on world events,as well as making a huge difference to Russia. I can see that the average Russian might greatly fear what will follow him – although unlike his ‘thug’ or ‘dictator’ image, he hasn’t appointed mere sycophants to office around him. Quite the contrary.
The icing on the cake here is sheer Envy, Jealousy. It’s a bunch of nobodies, time servers, pension seekers and genially corrupt bureaucrats who will never change history ( except perhaps helping to wreck economies), who aren’t enjoying the contrast. Like the smart kid in a classroom who ruins the grade curve, they despise him.
Posted by: Eighthman | Oct 6 2023 14:23 utc | 219
The treatment of Putin as a public figure in the West is an interesting mystery – that I think can be solved.
Suppose a group of assassins went about killing various Western leaders? What difference would it make? None of them are in any way essential. Scholz, Sunak, Biden, and all the EU leaders. You could drag the bodies away and just have the next in line,step forward and all the policies are the same.
Not so with Putin ( or Xi, to a degree). Love or hate him, he has – and continues to have – a profound influence on world events,as well as making a huge difference to Russia. I can see that the average Russian might greatly fear what will follow him – although unlike his ‘thug’ or ‘dictator’ image, he hasn’t appointed mere sycophants to office around him. Quite the contrary.
The icing on the cake here is sheer Envy, Jealousy. It’s a bunch of nobodies, time servers, pension seekers and genially corrupt bureaucrats who will never change history ( except perhaps helping to wreck economies), who aren’t enjoying the contrast. Like the smart kid in a classroom who ruins the grade curve, they despise him.
Posted by: Eighthman | Oct 6 2023 14:23 utc | 220
@Newbie | Oct 6 2023 10:59 utc | 100
Yes, and the 2070 event might mirror it.
What are you referring to? I am talking about solid evidence from the past.
Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 6 2023 14:53 utc | 221
@Newbie | Oct 6 2023 10:59 utc | 100
Yes, and the 2070 event might mirror it.
What are you referring to? I am talking about solid evidence from the past.
Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 6 2023 14:53 utc | 222
On Canada’s safe terrorist heaven history, apart from UkraiNazis and Khalistanis: one of the killers of Sheikh Mujib President of Bangladesh in 1975, S.H.M.B Noor Chowdhury is still being allowed to live there (in store for future misuse?). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.H.M.B_Noor_Chowdhury
Posted by: Antonym | Oct 6 2023 15:10 utc | 223
On Canada’s safe terrorist heaven history, apart from UkraiNazis and Khalistanis: one of the killers of Sheikh Mujib President of Bangladesh in 1975, S.H.M.B Noor Chowdhury is still being allowed to live there (in store for future misuse?). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.H.M.B_Noor_Chowdhury
Posted by: Antonym | Oct 6 2023 15:10 utc | 224
waynorinorway | Oct 6 2023 6:25 utc | 94–
After the transcript there’s Escobar’s self-admitted incomplete recap here. He also attended many of the other sessions and had talks with participants that I asked him to share with us when he has time and space.
Peter AU1 | Oct 6 2023 10:11 utc | 99–
Good to hear your current trajectory and hope it continues in a positive direction. Your written voice “sounds” more coherent. I’m very pleased we can converse again!
waynorinorway | Oct 6 2023 6:25 utc | 94–
After the transcript there’s Escobar’s self-admitted incomplete recap here. He also attended many of the other sessions and had talks with participants that I asked him to share with us when he has time and space.
Peter AU1 | Oct 6 2023 10:11 utc | 99–
Good to hear your current trajectory and hope it continues in a positive direction. Your written voice “sounds” more coherent. I’m very pleased we can converse again!
DunGroanin | Oct 6 2023 13:19 utc | 104–
Thanks for your reply. As Escobar’s recap shows, there’ll be many other interpretations of not just Putin’s speech and discussion but other aspects of the entire meeting including the main paper that underlined the event, here for those who haven’t read it yet.
DunGroanin | Oct 6 2023 13:19 utc | 104–
Thanks for your reply. As Escobar’s recap shows, there’ll be many other interpretations of not just Putin’s speech and discussion but other aspects of the entire meeting including the main paper that underlined the event, here for those who haven’t read it yet.
Or try James Corbett (CAN) on present Canadian freedom for terrorists but ban on free press: https://www.corbettreport.com/nwnw531/
Posted by: Antonym | Oct 6 2023 15:28 utc | 229
Or try James Corbett (CAN) on present Canadian freedom for terrorists but ban on free press: https://www.corbettreport.com/nwnw531/
Posted by: Antonym | Oct 6 2023 15:28 utc | 230
The transit of piped gas through Azerbaijan may well play a large part in what is occurring.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 6 2023 2:47 utc | 85
You might find this interesting Peter;
“Azerbaijan may not be able to deliver on ambitions to double natural gas exports to Europe by 2027, having failed to secure long-term sales deals it needs before investing billions of dollars to boost production, according to two people with knowledge of the matter.”
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/azeri-plan-to-double-gas-exports-to-eu-at-risk-as-talks-stall-1.1981253
Posted by: bubbles | Oct 6 2023 15:34 utc | 231
The transit of piped gas through Azerbaijan may well play a large part in what is occurring.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 6 2023 2:47 utc | 85
You might find this interesting Peter;
“Azerbaijan may not be able to deliver on ambitions to double natural gas exports to Europe by 2027, having failed to secure long-term sales deals it needs before investing billions of dollars to boost production, according to two people with knowledge of the matter.”
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/azeri-plan-to-double-gas-exports-to-eu-at-risk-as-talks-stall-1.1981253
Posted by: bubbles | Oct 6 2023 15:34 utc | 232
Some people’s blood is much cheaper than the Ukr one. They don’t get mentioned in the MSM.
https://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/2/8/509704/World/Region/Syria-buries-dozens-of-victims-killed-in-military-.aspx
Posted by: Minaa | Oct 6 2023 15:39 utc | 233
Some people’s blood is much cheaper than the Ukr one. They don’t get mentioned in the MSM.
https://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/2/8/509704/World/Region/Syria-buries-dozens-of-victims-killed-in-military-.aspx
Posted by: Minaa | Oct 6 2023 15:39 utc | 234
Posted by: Eighthman | Oct 6 2023 14:23 utc | 110
“The icing on the cake here is sheer Envy, Jealousy. It’s a bunch of nobodies, time servers, pension seekers and genially corrupt bureaucrats who will never change history ( except perhaps helping to wreck economies), who aren’t enjoying the contrast. Like the smart kid in a classroom who ruins the grade curve, they despise him.”
Never mind the great content of Putin’s remarks at Valdai; just look at the form. He spoke – mostly extemporaneously (without a teleprompter and few notes) – for 3 hours. And he’s been doing this sort of thing for years and years. Can you imagine Biden doing that? Trudeau?
It’s not even the smart kid in the class. It’s boys versus men. No contest.
Posted by: N Hanrahan | Oct 6 2023 17:18 utc | 235
Posted by: Eighthman | Oct 6 2023 14:23 utc | 110
“The icing on the cake here is sheer Envy, Jealousy. It’s a bunch of nobodies, time servers, pension seekers and genially corrupt bureaucrats who will never change history ( except perhaps helping to wreck economies), who aren’t enjoying the contrast. Like the smart kid in a classroom who ruins the grade curve, they despise him.”
Never mind the great content of Putin’s remarks at Valdai; just look at the form. He spoke – mostly extemporaneously (without a teleprompter and few notes) – for 3 hours. And he’s been doing this sort of thing for years and years. Can you imagine Biden doing that? Trudeau?
It’s not even the smart kid in the class. It’s boys versus men. No contest.
Posted by: N Hanrahan | Oct 6 2023 17:18 utc | 236
@Eighthman & 110
well said, I have exactly the same opinion, that this is a deep resentment for Putin’s superior intellect and realization of their inferiority.
Posted by: fanto | Oct 6 2023 17:26 utc | 237
@Eighthman & 110
well said, I have exactly the same opinion, that this is a deep resentment for Putin’s superior intellect and realization of their inferiority.
Posted by: fanto | Oct 6 2023 17:26 utc | 238
“Key Taiwan Tech Firms Helping Huawei With China Chip Plants” – daffyDuct
Note well that 1) Taiwanese companies have been manufacturing on the mainland for a looooong time.
2) It is not “illicit” for HuaWei to manufacture computer chips in China. US laws only apply within the USA.
Posted by: lester | Oct 6 2023 18:05 utc | 239
“Key Taiwan Tech Firms Helping Huawei With China Chip Plants” – daffyDuct
Note well that 1) Taiwanese companies have been manufacturing on the mainland for a looooong time.
2) It is not “illicit” for HuaWei to manufacture computer chips in China. US laws only apply within the USA.
Posted by: lester | Oct 6 2023 18:05 utc | 240
@ lester | Oct 6 2023 18:05 utc | 120
US laws only apply within the USA.
Not recently. The “rules-based international order” depends heavily on US laws.
Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 6 2023 18:19 utc | 241
@ lester | Oct 6 2023 18:05 utc | 120
US laws only apply within the USA.
Not recently. The “rules-based international order” depends heavily on US laws.
Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 6 2023 18:19 utc | 242
The US and its satellites behave as though US !aw applies to what an Australian citizen does in the UK.
Posted by: Lysias | Oct 6 2023 18:37 utc | 243
The US and its satellites behave as though US !aw applies to what an Australian citizen does in the UK.
Posted by: Lysias | Oct 6 2023 18:37 utc | 244
Thesituation between Armenia and Azerbaijan looked very complex. Russia trying to mediate between the two, US as usual trying to create trouble, Iran backing Armenia and Turkey backing fellow Turkic and muslim country Azerbaijan.
Multi-polar diplomacy in action…
“Iran Observer
@IranObserver0
Iran and Azerbaijan inaugurated the project of creating a land corridor that will connect the territory of Azerbaijan and Nakhchivan through Iran.
Another diplomatic win for Iran.
This corridor will prevent Azerbaijan from thinking about further incursions into Armenia, but it also means that the land link between Azerbaijan and Turkey (and Turkey to Europe) comes under Iran’s control.”
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 6 2023 18:51 utc | 245
Thesituation between Armenia and Azerbaijan looked very complex. Russia trying to mediate between the two, US as usual trying to create trouble, Iran backing Armenia and Turkey backing fellow Turkic and muslim country Azerbaijan.
Multi-polar diplomacy in action…
“Iran Observer
@IranObserver0
Iran and Azerbaijan inaugurated the project of creating a land corridor that will connect the territory of Azerbaijan and Nakhchivan through Iran.
Another diplomatic win for Iran.
This corridor will prevent Azerbaijan from thinking about further incursions into Armenia, but it also means that the land link between Azerbaijan and Turkey (and Turkey to Europe) comes under Iran’s control.”
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 6 2023 18:51 utc | 246
“Taiwanese voters will pick their president in 2024. They will choose between a ruling party determined to maintain Taiwan’s political independence, and an opposition that sees closer ties with China — the island’s biggest trading partner — as the only viable path.” – DaffyDuct
Has the DPP actually declared independence? It’d be huge news, if so. The last I knew, the island was still a province of the Republic of China. I cannot imagine that the opposition KMT would cooperate at all!
Posted by: lester | Oct 6 2023 19:02 utc | 247
“Taiwanese voters will pick their president in 2024. They will choose between a ruling party determined to maintain Taiwan’s political independence, and an opposition that sees closer ties with China — the island’s biggest trading partner — as the only viable path.” – DaffyDuct
Has the DPP actually declared independence? It’d be huge news, if so. The last I knew, the island was still a province of the Republic of China. I cannot imagine that the opposition KMT would cooperate at all!
Posted by: lester | Oct 6 2023 19:02 utc | 248
S #92 (Oct 6, 5:35 utc):
While the West is hard at work trying to smear Iran as “anti-women,” Iran has just launched a TV channel in Afghanistan broadcasting school lessons to provide education to Afghan girls who are staying at home because of Taliban’s orders: https://t.me/presstv/75199. If the Nobel Peace Prize was the real deal and not the propaganda tool it is, it would be awarded to this TV channel.
Jailed Iranian activist Narges Mohammadi wins Nobel Peace Prize (Reuters, Gwladys Fouche & Tom Little, October 6, 2023, 9:05 utc)
Was the “Armita Geravand assaulted by morality police” hoax designed to influence the decision of the Norwegian Nobel Committee? Or was it a supporting operation to give this decision an extra propagandistic “oomph”?
Posted by: S | Oct 6 2023 20:02 utc | 249
S #92 (Oct 6, 5:35 utc):
While the West is hard at work trying to smear Iran as “anti-women,” Iran has just launched a TV channel in Afghanistan broadcasting school lessons to provide education to Afghan girls who are staying at home because of Taliban’s orders: https://t.me/presstv/75199. If the Nobel Peace Prize was the real deal and not the propaganda tool it is, it would be awarded to this TV channel.
Jailed Iranian activist Narges Mohammadi wins Nobel Peace Prize (Reuters, Gwladys Fouche & Tom Little, October 6, 2023, 9:05 utc)
Was the “Armita Geravand assaulted by morality police” hoax designed to influence the decision of the Norwegian Nobel Committee? Or was it a supporting operation to give this decision an extra propagandistic “oomph”?
Posted by: S | Oct 6 2023 20:02 utc | 250
In mid October we have two pivotal elections in South America, in Ecuador and Argentina.
In Ecuador we have the Correa organization candidate against the son of the richest man in Ecuador. The former should have won the first round, but that was disrupted by the assassination of the fifth most popular candidate, an assassination which points more toward the Ecuadorian establishment that has got in bed with the drug cartels. In the past few years, under neoliberal governments, murder rates in Ecuador have leapt from one of the lowest in South America to one of the highest. If the son of the billionaire wins there will be more neoliberal policies, more corruption, and the reinstatement of US bases in the country (thrown out by Correa).
In Argentina we have the reformist “Kirchnerite” candidate against Milei, a truly radical neoliberal libertarian who would dollarize the economy, gut the government social institutions, breed denial of the crimes of the fascist state of the 1970s and 1980s, and bring corruption back to the level of Menm in the 1990s. As William Callison Puts It:
Milei promises them he will ‘burn down’ the central bank, dollarize the currency, eliminate most state agencies and privatize publicly owned firms. Just as he describes anthropogenic climate change as a ‘socialist lie’, he also denies the torture and disappearances that took place under the dictatorship, and plans to pardon the military officials jailed for such offences … Following Friedman, Milei distinguishes between three types of liberalism: the classical doctrine of Smith and Hayek, which he holds in high esteem; the minarchism of Mises, with which he identifies on a practical level; and the anarcho-capitalism of Hans-Hermann Hoppe, to which he adheres philosophically.
https://newleftreview.org/sidecar/posts/mileis-chainsaw?pc=1541
He will be an utter disaster for the Argentine people, pushing the country back to the status of a highly indebted commodity-exporting colony of the West that it had before the post-war ISI years. The owners of the latifundia, the financiers, and the foreign bourgeoisie will be provided with a paradise for exploitation.
The South American elites continue to be cunning and resourceful, and enjoy the full backing of the US elites. They have taken back Peru, chained the even mildly progressive Brazilian “left”, stand ready to take back Chile from its delusional woke “leftist” ignorant President, stand strong in Paraguay, and threaten to deepen their control of Ecuador and take back Argentina. If they are successful they will be emboldened to “deal with” the progressive Colombian president. Then only Bolivia and Venezuela will be left standing as truly progressive governments.
Let us hope that the two elections do not provide such horrible outcomes.
In mid October we have two pivotal elections in South America, in Ecuador and Argentina.
In Ecuador we have the Correa organization candidate against the son of the richest man in Ecuador. The former should have won the first round, but that was disrupted by the assassination of the fifth most popular candidate, an assassination which points more toward the Ecuadorian establishment that has got in bed with the drug cartels. In the past few years, under neoliberal governments, murder rates in Ecuador have leapt from one of the lowest in South America to one of the highest. If the son of the billionaire wins there will be more neoliberal policies, more corruption, and the reinstatement of US bases in the country (thrown out by Correa).
In Argentina we have the reformist “Kirchnerite” candidate against Milei, a truly radical neoliberal libertarian who would dollarize the economy, gut the government social institutions, breed denial of the crimes of the fascist state of the 1970s and 1980s, and bring corruption back to the level of Menm in the 1990s. As William Callison Puts It:
Milei promises them he will ‘burn down’ the central bank, dollarize the currency, eliminate most state agencies and privatize publicly owned firms. Just as he describes anthropogenic climate change as a ‘socialist lie’, he also denies the torture and disappearances that took place under the dictatorship, and plans to pardon the military officials jailed for such offences … Following Friedman, Milei distinguishes between three types of liberalism: the classical doctrine of Smith and Hayek, which he holds in high esteem; the minarchism of Mises, with which he identifies on a practical level; and the anarcho-capitalism of Hans-Hermann Hoppe, to which he adheres philosophically.
https://newleftreview.org/sidecar/posts/mileis-chainsaw?pc=1541
He will be an utter disaster for the Argentine people, pushing the country back to the status of a highly indebted commodity-exporting colony of the West that it had before the post-war ISI years. The owners of the latifundia, the financiers, and the foreign bourgeoisie will be provided with a paradise for exploitation.
The South American elites continue to be cunning and resourceful, and enjoy the full backing of the US elites. They have taken back Peru, chained the even mildly progressive Brazilian “left”, stand ready to take back Chile from its delusional woke “leftist” ignorant President, stand strong in Paraguay, and threaten to deepen their control of Ecuador and take back Argentina. If they are successful they will be emboldened to “deal with” the progressive Colombian president. Then only Bolivia and Venezuela will be left standing as truly progressive governments.
Let us hope that the two elections do not provide such horrible outcomes.
https://www.mintpressnews.com/priority-must-be-put-bush-blair-cheney-behind-bars-before-trump/285867/
The Priority Must Be To Put Bush, Blair and Cheney Behind Bars
OCTOBER 2ND, 2023
By JONATHAN COOK
There is not much to thank Dick Cheney for. But perhaps he deserves credit for one thing: illustrating how effectively our political systems can rehabilitate even the most monstrous of moral monsters.
Just watch this short clip that went viral on X (formerly Twitter), in which Cheney warns against the re-election of Donald Trump. Perhaps not surprisingly, it has proven a big hit with Democratic party supporters, those who once reviled Cheney for his role in invading Iraq.
https://www.mintpressnews.com/the-daily-nk-news-north-korea-brought-by-cia/285873/
News on North Korea, Brought to You By the CIA
OCTOBER 3RD, 2023
By ALAN MACLEOD
Remember when Kim Jong-un died? Back in 2020, corporate media was awash with reports that the North Korean leader had died or was in a “vegetative state.” Yet, just days after the media frenzy, he appeared alive and well. So how did the likes of CNN, MSNBC and The Economist get the story so disastrously wrong? By relying on hearsay from outlets funded by the CIA cutout organization, the National Endowment for Democracy (NED).
Posted by: MD | Oct 6 2023 20:47 utc | 253
https://www.mintpressnews.com/priority-must-be-put-bush-blair-cheney-behind-bars-before-trump/285867/
The Priority Must Be To Put Bush, Blair and Cheney Behind Bars
OCTOBER 2ND, 2023
By JONATHAN COOK
There is not much to thank Dick Cheney for. But perhaps he deserves credit for one thing: illustrating how effectively our political systems can rehabilitate even the most monstrous of moral monsters.
Just watch this short clip that went viral on X (formerly Twitter), in which Cheney warns against the re-election of Donald Trump. Perhaps not surprisingly, it has proven a big hit with Democratic party supporters, those who once reviled Cheney for his role in invading Iraq.
https://www.mintpressnews.com/the-daily-nk-news-north-korea-brought-by-cia/285873/
News on North Korea, Brought to You By the CIA
OCTOBER 3RD, 2023
By ALAN MACLEOD
Remember when Kim Jong-un died? Back in 2020, corporate media was awash with reports that the North Korean leader had died or was in a “vegetative state.” Yet, just days after the media frenzy, he appeared alive and well. So how did the likes of CNN, MSNBC and The Economist get the story so disastrously wrong? By relying on hearsay from outlets funded by the CIA cutout organization, the National Endowment for Democracy (NED).
Posted by: MD | Oct 6 2023 20:47 utc | 254
@ oldhippie | Oct 6 2023 14:18 utc | 109
I find it odd that you are so sure about Galileo
I am quite sure you and many others would benefit by learning from the learned Larouche circle since much of what they bring up is actually about the nature of the current empire. The latter namely inherited its methods from the Venetian Oligarchy as it was transplanted to England and more.
If the american people had chosen Larouche for president they would be vastly better off today and so would the rest of us.
Quoting from Tarpley’s how the dead souls of Venice corrupted science.
“Three groups of Venetian gamemasters
We can approach these Venetian dead souls in three groups.
First there is the group around Pietro Pomponazzi,Gasparo Contarini, and Francesco Zorzi, who were active in the first part of the 1500s.
[My remark_ Contarini was the mastermind of the 30-years war by manipulating both the reformation and the counterreformation and]
Second, there is the group of Paolo Sarpi and his right-hand man Fulgenzio Micanzio, the case officers for Galileo Galilei.
This was the group that opposed Johannes Kepler in the early 1600s.
Third, we have the group around Antonio Conti and Giammaria Ortes in the early 1700s.
This was the group that created the Newton myth and modern materialism or utilitarianism and combatted Gott-fried Wilhelm Leibniz.
These three groups of Venetian gamemasters are responsible for a great deal of the obscurantism and garbage that weighs like a nightmare on the brain of humanity today. ”
Posted by: petergrfstrm | Oct 6 2023 20:56 utc | 255
@ oldhippie | Oct 6 2023 14:18 utc | 109
I find it odd that you are so sure about Galileo
I am quite sure you and many others would benefit by learning from the learned Larouche circle since much of what they bring up is actually about the nature of the current empire. The latter namely inherited its methods from the Venetian Oligarchy as it was transplanted to England and more.
If the american people had chosen Larouche for president they would be vastly better off today and so would the rest of us.
Quoting from Tarpley’s how the dead souls of Venice corrupted science.
“Three groups of Venetian gamemasters
We can approach these Venetian dead souls in three groups.
First there is the group around Pietro Pomponazzi,Gasparo Contarini, and Francesco Zorzi, who were active in the first part of the 1500s.
[My remark_ Contarini was the mastermind of the 30-years war by manipulating both the reformation and the counterreformation and]
Second, there is the group of Paolo Sarpi and his right-hand man Fulgenzio Micanzio, the case officers for Galileo Galilei.
This was the group that opposed Johannes Kepler in the early 1600s.
Third, we have the group around Antonio Conti and Giammaria Ortes in the early 1700s.
This was the group that created the Newton myth and modern materialism or utilitarianism and combatted Gott-fried Wilhelm Leibniz.
These three groups of Venetian gamemasters are responsible for a great deal of the obscurantism and garbage that weighs like a nightmare on the brain of humanity today. ”
Posted by: petergrfstrm | Oct 6 2023 20:56 utc | 256
https://nitter.net/thesiriusreport
The Sirius Report
@thesiriusreport
Oct 5
No one really talks anymore about the G7 oil price cap. We said from day one it would be a complete failure. It was yet another game changer to cripple Russia economically. But as usual the incapability of the West to see reason as opposed to what they want to believe the outcome will be was self-evident once again.
Today we find Russian Urals grade oil trading at around $86 pb equivalent. Recall the price cap was $60pb.
This also indicates the demand for Russian oil is strong. To make matters even more shambolic for the West, they are buying this oil through third parties at premiums to these prices, when they could have been locked in at far lower prices in longer term contracts.
Posted by: M | Oct 6 2023 21:16 utc | 257
https://nitter.net/thesiriusreport
The Sirius Report
@thesiriusreport
Oct 5
No one really talks anymore about the G7 oil price cap. We said from day one it would be a complete failure. It was yet another game changer to cripple Russia economically. But as usual the incapability of the West to see reason as opposed to what they want to believe the outcome will be was self-evident once again.
Today we find Russian Urals grade oil trading at around $86 pb equivalent. Recall the price cap was $60pb.
This also indicates the demand for Russian oil is strong. To make matters even more shambolic for the West, they are buying this oil through third parties at premiums to these prices, when they could have been locked in at far lower prices in longer term contracts.
Posted by: M | Oct 6 2023 21:16 utc | 258
https://nitter.net/thesiriusreport
Sirius Report
@thesiriusreport
Oct 3
Clown show on steroids:
Fico wins the Slovak elections and Brussels clearly doesn’t like this because he isn’t a paid up member of the dutiful vassal ensemble subservient to the rules based order. After all Western democracy isn’t about having your own opinion.
So what do we now find?
Suggestions of Russian interference in the Slovak election.
It’s laughable only there will be people believing this ..
Posted by: M | Oct 6 2023 21:28 utc | 259
https://nitter.net/thesiriusreport
Sirius Report
@thesiriusreport
Oct 3
Clown show on steroids:
Fico wins the Slovak elections and Brussels clearly doesn’t like this because he isn’t a paid up member of the dutiful vassal ensemble subservient to the rules based order. After all Western democracy isn’t about having your own opinion.
So what do we now find?
Suggestions of Russian interference in the Slovak election.
It’s laughable only there will be people believing this ..
Posted by: M | Oct 6 2023 21:28 utc | 260
https://nitter.net/RonPaulInstitut
Four Biden Impeachment Articles and What the House Will Need to Prove
ronpaulinstitute.org/
Posted by: M | Oct 6 2023 21:33 utc | 261
https://nitter.net/RonPaulInstitut
Four Biden Impeachment Articles and What the House Will Need to Prove
ronpaulinstitute.org/
Posted by: M | Oct 6 2023 21:33 utc | 262
https://nitter.net/zhang_heqing
Zhang Heqing
@zhang_heqing
4h
Housing, stocks and holiday – China’s economy will keep being efficiently productive
As an efficient major manufacturing and trading country, the Chinese economy is far more solid than some Western media have depicted. There have indeed been some fluctuations in its property market and A-share stock market; but the role of the property market in the Chinese economy is changing. In addition, countries in the Middle East are stepping up their investment in China. There’s massive amount of foreign investment in China. Liu Yangsheng, a senior fellow at the Taihe Institute, said in an interview that the Chinese economy is significant in that it is sophisticated, elaborate, and comprehensive in covering all industrial sectors. China’s manufacturing output, is more than that of Japan, Germany, and the United States combined. China is continuing to advance its technology in manufacturing, and will continue to be efficiently productive.
Credit @CGTNOfficial
ALSO
https://nitter.net/raghavan1314
罗文德(TheRaghav) retweeted
@ErikSolheim
Oct 2
The British empire caused 165 million deaths in India in 40 years:
A new study found that British colonialism caused approximately 165 million deaths in India from 1880 to 1920, while stealing trillions of dollars of wealth
buff.ly/3JVSlig
Posted by: Ashino | Oct 6 2023 21:49 utc | 263
https://nitter.net/zhang_heqing
Zhang Heqing
@zhang_heqing
4h
Housing, stocks and holiday – China’s economy will keep being efficiently productive
As an efficient major manufacturing and trading country, the Chinese economy is far more solid than some Western media have depicted. There have indeed been some fluctuations in its property market and A-share stock market; but the role of the property market in the Chinese economy is changing. In addition, countries in the Middle East are stepping up their investment in China. There’s massive amount of foreign investment in China. Liu Yangsheng, a senior fellow at the Taihe Institute, said in an interview that the Chinese economy is significant in that it is sophisticated, elaborate, and comprehensive in covering all industrial sectors. China’s manufacturing output, is more than that of Japan, Germany, and the United States combined. China is continuing to advance its technology in manufacturing, and will continue to be efficiently productive.
Credit @CGTNOfficial
ALSO
https://nitter.net/raghavan1314
罗文德(TheRaghav) retweeted
@ErikSolheim
Oct 2
The British empire caused 165 million deaths in India in 40 years:
A new study found that British colonialism caused approximately 165 million deaths in India from 1880 to 1920, while stealing trillions of dollars of wealth
buff.ly/3JVSlig
Posted by: Ashino | Oct 6 2023 21:49 utc | 264
https://nitter.net/Kanthan2030
S.L. Kanthan
@Kanthan2030
1h
How far is India behind China? Here are some metrics:
🔹15 years — in GDP
🔹17 years — in exports
🔹19 years — in forex reserves
🔹20 years — in FDI
🔹21 years — in patents
m.thewire.in/article/economy…
Posted by: Ashino | Oct 6 2023 21:53 utc | 265
https://nitter.net/Kanthan2030
S.L. Kanthan
@Kanthan2030
1h
How far is India behind China? Here are some metrics:
🔹15 years — in GDP
🔹17 years — in exports
🔹19 years — in forex reserves
🔹20 years — in FDI
🔹21 years — in patents
m.thewire.in/article/economy…
Posted by: Ashino | Oct 6 2023 21:53 utc | 266
Posted by: S | Oct 6 2023 8:36 utc | 95
Interesting. Developing this is hard. Perhaps a descendant of the reactors used in the Kosmos satellites.
Posted by: Passerby | Oct 6 2023 21:56 utc | 267
Posted by: S | Oct 6 2023 8:36 utc | 95
Interesting. Developing this is hard. Perhaps a descendant of the reactors used in the Kosmos satellites.
Posted by: Passerby | Oct 6 2023 21:56 utc | 268
https://nitter.net/Kanthan2030
S.L. Kanthan
@Kanthan2030
2h
India’s FDI has fallen two years in a row.
This should have been the perfect moment to leverage the West’s “China +1” strategy. 🤔
FDI by fiscal year (in billions):
FY 22: $85
FY 23: $71
FY 24: $66 (forecast)
Manufacturing & infrastructure are tangible things that cannot be brushed over by Powerpoint presentations.
@Kanthan2030
4h
Illogical whining from the USA
Americans complain about China “stealing” IP.
Then, the US should have the original IP, right? Use that to make your products elsewhere.
There are 5 billion poor people outside China. Go build your factories there.
Also, why didn’t you do it before? Oh, because you thought
🔹China can never move up the value chain
🔹China would never become rich and
🔹Chinese products could never compete with you and eat up your market share.
So, all this anti-China whining, vile propaganda, demonization, bullying, trade wars, tech wars, sanctions, military aggression etc. are to eliminate competition.
No, the world doesn’t need an American dictatorship. We are all sick of the American Century.
You are not even 5% of the world’s population but want to rule the 95% forever.
Not gonna work…
Posted by: Ashino | Oct 6 2023 21:59 utc | 269
https://nitter.net/Kanthan2030
S.L. Kanthan
@Kanthan2030
2h
India’s FDI has fallen two years in a row.
This should have been the perfect moment to leverage the West’s “China +1” strategy. 🤔
FDI by fiscal year (in billions):
FY 22: $85
FY 23: $71
FY 24: $66 (forecast)
Manufacturing & infrastructure are tangible things that cannot be brushed over by Powerpoint presentations.
@Kanthan2030
4h
Illogical whining from the USA
Americans complain about China “stealing” IP.
Then, the US should have the original IP, right? Use that to make your products elsewhere.
There are 5 billion poor people outside China. Go build your factories there.
Also, why didn’t you do it before? Oh, because you thought
🔹China can never move up the value chain
🔹China would never become rich and
🔹Chinese products could never compete with you and eat up your market share.
So, all this anti-China whining, vile propaganda, demonization, bullying, trade wars, tech wars, sanctions, military aggression etc. are to eliminate competition.
No, the world doesn’t need an American dictatorship. We are all sick of the American Century.
You are not even 5% of the world’s population but want to rule the 95% forever.
Not gonna work…
Posted by: Ashino | Oct 6 2023 21:59 utc | 270
lester | Oct 6 2023 19:02 utc | 124
I believe the Taiwan government still officially have the position that they are the government of all of China. A small number of small US vassal states still recognize them as such. A number of countries have only recently switch recognition of the government of China from Taiwan to the mainland government. Lithuania seems to be the only country that has tried to swim against the tide in switching its official recognition from China to Taiwan.
As Taiwan has never declared Independence, it is not possible for other countries to officially recognize both governments simultaneously.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 6 2023 22:12 utc | 271
lester | Oct 6 2023 19:02 utc | 124
I believe the Taiwan government still officially have the position that they are the government of all of China. A small number of small US vassal states still recognize them as such. A number of countries have only recently switch recognition of the government of China from Taiwan to the mainland government. Lithuania seems to be the only country that has tried to swim against the tide in switching its official recognition from China to Taiwan.
As Taiwan has never declared Independence, it is not possible for other countries to officially recognize both governments simultaneously.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 6 2023 22:12 utc | 272
https://nitter.net/RnaudBertrand
Arnaud Bertrand retweeted
BreakThrough News
@BTnewsroom
Oct 4
A New York Times hit piece was used by the fascist far-right Modi government to detain 50 journalists !!! at progressive Indian media outlet @newsclickin, falsely calling them Chinese agents and terrorists.
(NYT at lying and fabricating again)
Protesters at NYT headquarters
5h
Which against goes to show just how idiotic the narrative of “China wants to destroy Islam” is…
For the Nth time the whole Xinjiang issue was a terrorism/separatist issue, not an attempt by China to suddenly clamp down on Islam, after 1,400 years of peaceful coexistence with the religion in the country (10 of China’s 55 official ethnic minorities are predominantly Muslim)…
Like all countries, China doesn’t tolerate violent separatist groups, like the East Turkistan Islamic Movement (ETIM), and it clamped down (admittedly quite drastically) on them. Interestingly, but it’s probably a mere coincidence (😏), ETIM found a relatively safe harbor in Afghanistan when the Americans were in the country and the vast majority of attacks they committed against China were during the 2007-2017 period.
Ironically the more the Talibans gained over the Americans, all the way to winning the war, the less of a problem ETIM was and now the Talibans go as far as saying that they “take security threats against China like a challenge to our own”, which is quite an extraordinary statement.
Posted by: Ashino | Oct 6 2023 22:26 utc | 273
https://nitter.net/RnaudBertrand
Arnaud Bertrand retweeted
BreakThrough News
@BTnewsroom
Oct 4
A New York Times hit piece was used by the fascist far-right Modi government to detain 50 journalists !!! at progressive Indian media outlet @newsclickin, falsely calling them Chinese agents and terrorists.
(NYT at lying and fabricating again)
Protesters at NYT headquarters
5h
Which against goes to show just how idiotic the narrative of “China wants to destroy Islam” is…
For the Nth time the whole Xinjiang issue was a terrorism/separatist issue, not an attempt by China to suddenly clamp down on Islam, after 1,400 years of peaceful coexistence with the religion in the country (10 of China’s 55 official ethnic minorities are predominantly Muslim)…
Like all countries, China doesn’t tolerate violent separatist groups, like the East Turkistan Islamic Movement (ETIM), and it clamped down (admittedly quite drastically) on them. Interestingly, but it’s probably a mere coincidence (😏), ETIM found a relatively safe harbor in Afghanistan when the Americans were in the country and the vast majority of attacks they committed against China were during the 2007-2017 period.
Ironically the more the Talibans gained over the Americans, all the way to winning the war, the less of a problem ETIM was and now the Talibans go as far as saying that they “take security threats against China like a challenge to our own”, which is quite an extraordinary statement.
Posted by: Ashino | Oct 6 2023 22:26 utc | 274
https://nitter.net/RnaudBertrand
Arnaud Bertrand
@RnaudBertrand
Oct 5
Like I’ve often said the “Xinjiang genocide” accusations will end up being another nail in the coffin of US and Western credibility, maybe even the final one.
Like it noticed the absence of WMDs in Irak, eventually the world will notice that the Uyghurs and their culture are still very much there. These first few articles might be the start of this.
By lying to such an extreme extent the US might have sown the seeds of a worldwide redpill moment in China’s favor.
Extremely shortsighted for them to gamble their credibility like that. After this, even their truths will be questioned.
And unlike the WMDs episode, what should happen is a reckoning where we relentlessly confront all those who participated in lie. Those people, journalists and politicians alike, should face the music so such a shameful attempt at manufacturing consent doesn’t happen again.
Posted by: MD | Oct 6 2023 22:30 utc | 275
https://nitter.net/RnaudBertrand
Arnaud Bertrand
@RnaudBertrand
Oct 5
Like I’ve often said the “Xinjiang genocide” accusations will end up being another nail in the coffin of US and Western credibility, maybe even the final one.
Like it noticed the absence of WMDs in Irak, eventually the world will notice that the Uyghurs and their culture are still very much there. These first few articles might be the start of this.
By lying to such an extreme extent the US might have sown the seeds of a worldwide redpill moment in China’s favor.
Extremely shortsighted for them to gamble their credibility like that. After this, even their truths will be questioned.
And unlike the WMDs episode, what should happen is a reckoning where we relentlessly confront all those who participated in lie. Those people, journalists and politicians alike, should face the music so such a shameful attempt at manufacturing consent doesn’t happen again.
Posted by: MD | Oct 6 2023 22:30 utc | 276
https://nitter.net/RnaudBertrand
Arnaud Bertrand
@RnaudBertrand
Oct 5
Wow, this is (hopefully) quite a sign: a positive – even glowing – article about Xinjiang in one of Germany’s largest newspapers:
berliner-zeitung.de/wirtscha…
Entitled “The new center of world trade is in China: A travel report from Xinjiang”, the article describes the enormous efforts undertaken by China to develop Xinjiang economically.
It also has an entire chapter entitled “the state supports the population intensively” describing the huge improvements in people’s living standards and general conditions.
I have zero doubt the journalists will face intense backlash from the usual anti-China crowd, but given this isn’t the first such positive recent report on Xinjiang in the German press it’s a sign the wind might – just might – be turning.
Posted by: MD | Oct 6 2023 22:34 utc | 277
https://nitter.net/RnaudBertrand
Arnaud Bertrand
@RnaudBertrand
Oct 5
Wow, this is (hopefully) quite a sign: a positive – even glowing – article about Xinjiang in one of Germany’s largest newspapers:
berliner-zeitung.de/wirtscha…
Entitled “The new center of world trade is in China: A travel report from Xinjiang”, the article describes the enormous efforts undertaken by China to develop Xinjiang economically.
It also has an entire chapter entitled “the state supports the population intensively” describing the huge improvements in people’s living standards and general conditions.
I have zero doubt the journalists will face intense backlash from the usual anti-China crowd, but given this isn’t the first such positive recent report on Xinjiang in the German press it’s a sign the wind might – just might – be turning.
Posted by: MD | Oct 6 2023 22:34 utc | 278
ZH has a posting up by Kunstler with the title
It’ll Be Hard To Gaslight The Nation Anymore When This Happens
The quote
The psychodrama in the House of Representatives this week looked like a possible inflection point in the blob’s war against the American people. Mr. Gaetz evicted the quisling Speaker Kevin McCarthy in a rather brave gambit, opening up the possibility of unifying his party against the programmatic wickedness of the post-Covid-19 era — the suicidal spending, the insane and unnecessary Ukraine proxy war, traitorous refusal to control the southern border, the official DOJ lawfare waged against half the citizenry, the disgusting official censorship campaign, and the ongoing criminal conspiracy between the pharma companies, the US public health officialdom, and shadowy globalist forces embedded in the World Health Organization, the World Economic Forum, and scores of sinister multinational organizations ranging from George Soros’s Atlantic Council to the Sinaloa Cartel.
I don’t agree with Kunstler much but his list of kindling for the coming social bonfire is accurate, IMO
And he is referring to the looming crash of the bond market as the spark.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 6 2023 22:40 utc | 279
ZH has a posting up by Kunstler with the title
It’ll Be Hard To Gaslight The Nation Anymore When This Happens
The quote
The psychodrama in the House of Representatives this week looked like a possible inflection point in the blob’s war against the American people. Mr. Gaetz evicted the quisling Speaker Kevin McCarthy in a rather brave gambit, opening up the possibility of unifying his party against the programmatic wickedness of the post-Covid-19 era — the suicidal spending, the insane and unnecessary Ukraine proxy war, traitorous refusal to control the southern border, the official DOJ lawfare waged against half the citizenry, the disgusting official censorship campaign, and the ongoing criminal conspiracy between the pharma companies, the US public health officialdom, and shadowy globalist forces embedded in the World Health Organization, the World Economic Forum, and scores of sinister multinational organizations ranging from George Soros’s Atlantic Council to the Sinaloa Cartel.
I don’t agree with Kunstler much but his list of kindling for the coming social bonfire is accurate, IMO
And he is referring to the looming crash of the bond market as the spark.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 6 2023 22:40 utc | 280
https://nitter.net/BenjaminNorton
Ben Norton
@BenjaminNorton
6h
“The collapse in Treasury bonds now ranks among the worst market crashes in (US) history”
“Long-term Treasurys are seeing one of the most extreme undoings in history”
The huge losses recall the equities crashes in the 2000 dot com bubble and 2008 crisis
markets.businessinsider.com/…
Posted by: MD | Oct 6 2023 22:44 utc | 281
https://nitter.net/BenjaminNorton
Ben Norton
@BenjaminNorton
6h
“The collapse in Treasury bonds now ranks among the worst market crashes in (US) history”
“Long-term Treasurys are seeing one of the most extreme undoings in history”
The huge losses recall the equities crashes in the 2000 dot com bubble and 2008 crisis
markets.businessinsider.com/…
Posted by: MD | Oct 6 2023 22:44 utc | 282
https://nitter.net/blackintheempir
Black in the Empire
@blackintheempir
8h
Just curious
How many more countries does the US Govt have to destroy and how many millions more civilians
do they have to be responsible for killing, before our citizens start to wonder if the people who run this place actually give a crap about democracy or Human Rights?
Millions of American children live in poverty and the priority of both Parties of our Gov’t is funding Ukraine and more killings.
Posted by: MD | Oct 6 2023 22:58 utc | 283
https://nitter.net/blackintheempir
Black in the Empire
@blackintheempir
8h
Just curious
How many more countries does the US Govt have to destroy and how many millions more civilians
do they have to be responsible for killing, before our citizens start to wonder if the people who run this place actually give a crap about democracy or Human Rights?
Millions of American children live in poverty and the priority of both Parties of our Gov’t is funding Ukraine and more killings.
Posted by: MD | Oct 6 2023 22:58 utc | 284
furies@52, You spelled injections wrong, and we’re the carbon they want to eliminate. If science wasn’t so politicised, I might consider someone’s opinion here. Though I do recall history where someone was imprisoned for stating that the Earth revolved around the sun. History doesn’t repeat itself, but it sure does rhyme.
Posted by: Immaculate deception | Oct 6 2023 23:02 utc | 285
furies@52, You spelled injections wrong, and we’re the carbon they want to eliminate. If science wasn’t so politicised, I might consider someone’s opinion here. Though I do recall history where someone was imprisoned for stating that the Earth revolved around the sun. History doesn’t repeat itself, but it sure does rhyme.
Posted by: Immaculate deception | Oct 6 2023 23:02 utc | 286
Anyway, when some of you here can explain exactly how the Egyptian pyramids were built, how the Mayan pyramids were built and Nan Madol, and the ruins off the coast of Japan were constructed, I’ll listen to any plausible theory. Or how round rocks end up on a mountain. Anyone with any sense God gave a turkey knows that round rocks only occure with the action of water. Shout out to Norwegian! Cheers from the other side.
Posted by: Immaculate deception | Oct 6 2023 23:17 utc | 287
Anyway, when some of you here can explain exactly how the Egyptian pyramids were built, how the Mayan pyramids were built and Nan Madol, and the ruins off the coast of Japan were constructed, I’ll listen to any plausible theory. Or how round rocks end up on a mountain. Anyone with any sense God gave a turkey knows that round rocks only occure with the action of water. Shout out to Norwegian! Cheers from the other side.
Posted by: Immaculate deception | Oct 6 2023 23:17 utc | 288
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Black in the Empire
@blackintheempir
Oct 5
Many Americans don’t care about us funding Apartheid in Israel, didn’t care about our Gov’t providing weapons for the genocide in Yemen, don’t care that we are illegally occupying Syria, or about all our war crimes and invasions, but that Putin is an evil war criminal.
7h
The U.S supported Peruvian coup regime’s right-wing oligarch-controlled congress, which has a whopping 6% approval rating, just authorized the entry of US troops and naval units into the country.
This is the second time this year
diariohoy.net/internacional/…
Ben Norton
@BenjaminNorton
Oct 5
Epoch Times is a blatant propaganda front for extreme-right anti-China cult Falun Gong.
They claim miscegenation, feminism, environmentalism, homosexuality, even evolution are satanic plots.
They worship Donald Trump as a godlike figure who was sent by heaven to destroy the Communist Party of China.
Falun Gong is closely linked to Western intelligence. The cult’s leader lives in a compound in rural New York. He literally claims he can fly.
https://nitter.net/BenjaminNorton
Posted by: MD | Oct 6 2023 23:18 utc | 289
https://nitter.net/blackintheempir
Black in the Empire
@blackintheempir
Oct 5
Many Americans don’t care about us funding Apartheid in Israel, didn’t care about our Gov’t providing weapons for the genocide in Yemen, don’t care that we are illegally occupying Syria, or about all our war crimes and invasions, but that Putin is an evil war criminal.
7h
The U.S supported Peruvian coup regime’s right-wing oligarch-controlled congress, which has a whopping 6% approval rating, just authorized the entry of US troops and naval units into the country.
This is the second time this year
diariohoy.net/internacional/…
Ben Norton
@BenjaminNorton
Oct 5
Epoch Times is a blatant propaganda front for extreme-right anti-China cult Falun Gong.
They claim miscegenation, feminism, environmentalism, homosexuality, even evolution are satanic plots.
They worship Donald Trump as a godlike figure who was sent by heaven to destroy the Communist Party of China.
Falun Gong is closely linked to Western intelligence. The cult’s leader lives in a compound in rural New York. He literally claims he can fly.
https://nitter.net/BenjaminNorton
Posted by: MD | Oct 6 2023 23:18 utc | 290
MD @141–
Dr. Hudson just shared a draft paper with me based on my translation of Putin’s Valdai Club appearance, and here’s its opening page:
A BRICS+ Bank: How would it really function?
This first week of October has seen U.S. interest rates soar to the 5% level on long-term Treasury bonds. That has made long-term Treasuries one of most attractive investment vehicles in the world, or even the most attractive.
One obvious result is that countries aiming to dedollarize their central-bank reserves would make an untimely decision move out of the dollar at this point. To avoid holding dollars in the form of US Treasury securities would mean holding foreign reserves denominated in a currency that is declining against the dollar. No other government is willing to make its currency so attractive to international investors (including central banks) by raising interest-rates so high.
At 5%, US bonds are the most secure and best investment around. There is a huge move into the dollar – and hence, pushing up its exchange rate against most other currencies. That has made it much more expensive for Global South countries to service their foreign debts denominated in dollars to the IMF, World Bank and private bondholders. If they try to pay these debts – which are now much more expensive in their own currencies – they will have to suffer austerity, and use their economic surplus to pay dollar-holders instead of using it to develop their own economies.
That strain imposed by international debt service is the most serious since the late 1920s – with the same refusal of creditor countries to see how today’s foreign-debt overhead cannot be paid. We have seen this before, in the austerity caused by Germany trying to pay its World War I reparations debts, and by England and France trying to pay their Inter-Ally debts despite the self-destruction of adhering to creditor demands.
Ben Norton is correct in that it’s those holders who bought 30 year T-Bills when rates were near zero who are now deeply underwater. Later in his draft paper Hudson admits those rates are a double edged sword. Hudson also just informed his Patreon contributors of his responses in a German article about the US economy:
Goldman Sachs: US debt is a bigger problem than strikes
The analysts at Goldman Sachs also consider this aspect to be more serious. The strike in the
automotive industry is the smaller of the “potholes” that are burdening the American economy. The
reintroduction of student loan repayments, which will become due again in October, is likely to have a more serious impact. Joe Biden had imposed a moratorium on student loans during the Corona
crisis for the 45 million Americans who are now owed about $1.7 trillion. Goldman Sachs calculates that if the $70 billion in student loans due in Q4 were paid off in full, there would be a 0.8 percent loss in purchasing power of gross domestic product (GDP).
In an interview with the Berliner Zeitung, Wall Street analyst and star economist Michael Hudson
explains the extent to which debt in the U.S. has already reached. Hudson considers Biden’s plans to reindustrialize the economy to be in vain: “The United States cannot develop into an international trading center again because of its high debt burden,” he says. Healthcare alone accounts for 18 percent of the U.S. gross domestic product, instead of the usual five percent in comparable countries. The average rent in New York, he said, is now $5500 per month. “When you have to spend up to 40 percent of your income on rent, and another ten to 15 percent is
deducted from your paycheck for health care and Social Security, there’s nothing left at the end of the month.”
To avoid falling into the debt trap, workers would now have to earn about $40,000 a year. And that, he said, is then almost a poverty wage. “The U.S. can’t compete with other countries because of its huge debt load,” Hudson said. Who’s going to buy goods at the end of the month if their income is already eaten up by their high debt load?”
The revolting Republicans have their own star to blame for it all–Ronald Reagan and his “Voodoo Economics.”
MD @141–
Dr. Hudson just shared a draft paper with me based on my translation of Putin’s Valdai Club appearance, and here’s its opening page:
A BRICS+ Bank: How would it really function?
This first week of October has seen U.S. interest rates soar to the 5% level on long-term Treasury bonds. That has made long-term Treasuries one of most attractive investment vehicles in the world, or even the most attractive.
One obvious result is that countries aiming to dedollarize their central-bank reserves would make an untimely decision move out of the dollar at this point. To avoid holding dollars in the form of US Treasury securities would mean holding foreign reserves denominated in a currency that is declining against the dollar. No other government is willing to make its currency so attractive to international investors (including central banks) by raising interest-rates so high.
At 5%, US bonds are the most secure and best investment around. There is a huge move into the dollar – and hence, pushing up its exchange rate against most other currencies. That has made it much more expensive for Global South countries to service their foreign debts denominated in dollars to the IMF, World Bank and private bondholders. If they try to pay these debts – which are now much more expensive in their own currencies – they will have to suffer austerity, and use their economic surplus to pay dollar-holders instead of using it to develop their own economies.
That strain imposed by international debt service is the most serious since the late 1920s – with the same refusal of creditor countries to see how today’s foreign-debt overhead cannot be paid. We have seen this before, in the austerity caused by Germany trying to pay its World War I reparations debts, and by England and France trying to pay their Inter-Ally debts despite the self-destruction of adhering to creditor demands.
Ben Norton is correct in that it’s those holders who bought 30 year T-Bills when rates were near zero who are now deeply underwater. Later in his draft paper Hudson admits those rates are a double edged sword. Hudson also just informed his Patreon contributors of his responses in a German article about the US economy:
Goldman Sachs: US debt is a bigger problem than strikes
The analysts at Goldman Sachs also consider this aspect to be more serious. The strike in the
automotive industry is the smaller of the “potholes” that are burdening the American economy. The
reintroduction of student loan repayments, which will become due again in October, is likely to have a more serious impact. Joe Biden had imposed a moratorium on student loans during the Corona
crisis for the 45 million Americans who are now owed about $1.7 trillion. Goldman Sachs calculates that if the $70 billion in student loans due in Q4 were paid off in full, there would be a 0.8 percent loss in purchasing power of gross domestic product (GDP).
In an interview with the Berliner Zeitung, Wall Street analyst and star economist Michael Hudson
explains the extent to which debt in the U.S. has already reached. Hudson considers Biden’s plans to reindustrialize the economy to be in vain: “The United States cannot develop into an international trading center again because of its high debt burden,” he says. Healthcare alone accounts for 18 percent of the U.S. gross domestic product, instead of the usual five percent in comparable countries. The average rent in New York, he said, is now $5500 per month. “When you have to spend up to 40 percent of your income on rent, and another ten to 15 percent is
deducted from your paycheck for health care and Social Security, there’s nothing left at the end of the month.”
To avoid falling into the debt trap, workers would now have to earn about $40,000 a year. And that, he said, is then almost a poverty wage. “The U.S. can’t compete with other countries because of its huge debt load,” Hudson said. Who’s going to buy goods at the end of the month if their income is already eaten up by their high debt load?”
The revolting Republicans have their own star to blame for it all–Ronald Reagan and his “Voodoo Economics.”
@Peter AU1 | Oct 6 2023 22:12 utc | 136
re: “The official name for the government in Taipei is officially the Republic of China (ROC).”
. . .but it isn’t really China. . .
Taiwan’s “President” Tsai Ing-wen, January 18, 2020, in a BBC interview:
Q: Will there come a day when that reality needs to be spelled out by calling Taiwan a country, and a formal declaration of independence to do that?
A: Well, the idea is that we don’t have a need to declare ourselves an independent state. We are an independent country already and we call ourselves the Republic of China (Taiwan), and we have our own system of running the country, and we do have a government and we have a military, and we have elections, like the presidential elections that you have witnessed. . . .here
The US doesn’t recognize that Taiwan (including its islands) is a country but it sells arms to Taiwan to assist its security.
Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 6 2023 23:24 utc | 293
@Peter AU1 | Oct 6 2023 22:12 utc | 136
re: “The official name for the government in Taipei is officially the Republic of China (ROC).”
. . .but it isn’t really China. . .
Taiwan’s “President” Tsai Ing-wen, January 18, 2020, in a BBC interview:
Q: Will there come a day when that reality needs to be spelled out by calling Taiwan a country, and a formal declaration of independence to do that?
A: Well, the idea is that we don’t have a need to declare ourselves an independent state. We are an independent country already and we call ourselves the Republic of China (Taiwan), and we have our own system of running the country, and we do have a government and we have a military, and we have elections, like the presidential elections that you have witnessed. . . .here
The US doesn’t recognize that Taiwan (including its islands) is a country but it sells arms to Taiwan to assist its security.
Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 6 2023 23:24 utc | 294
Don Bacon | Oct 6 2023 23:24 utc | 147–
Taiwan officials can spin words all they want, but officially under International Law they are a Chinese province in rebellion, which is why the question was posed the way it was. The best deal Taiwan will get is something similar to Hong Kong, which is clearly serving Hong Kong well.
Don Bacon | Oct 6 2023 23:24 utc | 147–
Taiwan officials can spin words all they want, but officially under International Law they are a Chinese province in rebellion, which is why the question was posed the way it was. The best deal Taiwan will get is something similar to Hong Kong, which is clearly serving Hong Kong well.
I keep wondering HOW Joe BIden will defend Taiwan? “Militarily”, he says. I know he plans to bomb Taiwan’s chip factories. But what next? Does he hope that combat will be confined to a small island? Or will invade the mainland? Invading Shandong Province from S.Korea, where the US has 10s of thousands of troops, might be tempting. Commie haters probably assume that Chinese people will welcome them, the Iraqis were supposed to welcome us!
Yes, it’s a stupid scenario, but “aganist stupidity, the gods themselve srive in vain”!
Posted by: lester | Oct 6 2023 23:41 utc | 297
I keep wondering HOW Joe BIden will defend Taiwan? “Militarily”, he says. I know he plans to bomb Taiwan’s chip factories. But what next? Does he hope that combat will be confined to a small island? Or will invade the mainland? Invading Shandong Province from S.Korea, where the US has 10s of thousands of troops, might be tempting. Commie haters probably assume that Chinese people will welcome them, the Iraqis were supposed to welcome us!
Yes, it’s a stupid scenario, but “aganist stupidity, the gods themselve srive in vain”!
Posted by: lester | Oct 6 2023 23:41 utc | 298
@ lester | Oct 6 2023 23:41 utc | 149
I look for a more sensible offensive on Taiwan, including a blockade, cyber activity, and such. Then later some ground activity, since Taiwan lacks an effective ground force.
Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 6 2023 23:49 utc | 299
@ lester | Oct 6 2023 23:41 utc | 149
I look for a more sensible offensive on Taiwan, including a blockade, cyber activity, and such. Then later some ground activity, since Taiwan lacks an effective ground force.
Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 6 2023 23:49 utc | 300