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October 26, 2023
Open (Neither Ukraine Nor Palestine) Thread 2023-250
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The voice of Victor Hanson, another pseudo intellectual from the US. In the video posted below, this idiot comes out with ‘nobody likes Iran’. Everybody in the world doesn’t like Iran, he spouts with no reference. Posted by: Eoin Clancy | Oct 26 2023 14:56 utc | 1 The voice of Victor Hanson, another pseudo intellectual from the US. In the video posted below, this idiot comes out with ‘nobody likes Iran’. Everybody in the world doesn’t like Iran, he spouts with no reference. Posted by: Eoin Clancy | Oct 26 2023 14:56 utc | 2 Citgo is being auctioned, process started on Monday and will be completed in June. https://archive.is/uT416 Posted by: citgo | Oct 26 2023 14:56 utc | 3 Citgo is being auctioned, process started on Monday and will be completed in June. https://archive.is/uT416 Posted by: citgo | Oct 26 2023 14:56 utc | 4 Thanks for Citgo update – that’s a significant event for de-dollarization Posted by: Exile | Oct 26 2023 15:06 utc | 5 Thanks for Citgo update – that’s a significant event for de-dollarization Posted by: Exile | Oct 26 2023 15:06 utc | 6 Yangtze Memory Technologies Co (YMTC), China’s leading memory chip producer, has manufactured the “world’s most advanced” 3D NAND memory chip known to be in a consumer device in a “surprise technology leap”, according to a report by TechInights. Posted by: Zet | Oct 26 2023 15:10 utc | 7 Yangtze Memory Technologies Co (YMTC), China’s leading memory chip producer, has manufactured the “world’s most advanced” 3D NAND memory chip known to be in a consumer device in a “surprise technology leap”, according to a report by TechInights. Posted by: Zet | Oct 26 2023 15:10 utc | 8 Financial Times (paywalled, headline is enough though):
The fall gAI for the inevitable crash is already put in place. Posted by: kspr | Oct 26 2023 15:22 utc | 9 Financial Times (paywalled, headline is enough though):
The fall gAI for the inevitable crash is already put in place. Posted by: kspr | Oct 26 2023 15:22 utc | 10 Will Hungary stall the issue? Posted by: newbie | Oct 26 2023 15:43 utc | 11 Will Hungary stall the issue? Posted by: newbie | Oct 26 2023 15:43 utc | 12 The voice of Victor Hanson, another pseudo intellectual from the US. In the video posted below, this idiot comes out with ‘nobody likes Iran’. Everybody in the world doesn’t like Iran, he spouts with no reference. Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 26 2023 15:47 utc | 13 The voice of Victor Hanson, another pseudo intellectual from the US. In the video posted below, this idiot comes out with ‘nobody likes Iran’. Everybody in the world doesn’t like Iran, he spouts with no reference. Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 26 2023 15:47 utc | 14 The Chinese space program appears to be making good progress as now they have their youngest trained crew up in orbit Posted by: leaf | Oct 26 2023 16:54 utc | 15 The Chinese space program appears to be making good progress as now they have their youngest trained crew up in orbit Posted by: leaf | Oct 26 2023 16:54 utc | 16 this is more of a philosophical post on the topic of wars for both gaza and ukraine and more generally… i am posting it here for others to consider.. don’t be deterred by the title.. it is from aurelien and posters have enjoyed his work before.. it is from yesterday.. i finally got round to reading it this morning.. Posted by: james | Oct 26 2023 16:55 utc | 17 this is more of a philosophical post on the topic of wars for both gaza and ukraine and more generally… i am posting it here for others to consider.. don’t be deterred by the title.. it is from aurelien and posters have enjoyed his work before.. it is from yesterday.. i finally got round to reading it this morning.. Posted by: james | Oct 26 2023 16:55 utc | 18 “surprise technology leaps” Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Oct 26 2023 17:00 utc | 19 “surprise technology leaps” Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Oct 26 2023 17:00 utc | 20 @ arch bungle. Following mention of non-nation state groups in the Palestine thread viz Putin and Chabad in Russia, I searched for ‘Chinese Tongs’ which are similar. I read years ago they go back centuries, if not millennia. But not much came up. Here is one:
This is not intended as a criticism of Chinese or China, but as an example of deep-rooted underground skeins helping to drive unfolding events, though generally not acknowledged in typical analysis. @ arch bungle. Following mention of non-nation state groups in the Palestine thread viz Putin and Chabad in Russia, I searched for ‘Chinese Tongs’ which are similar. I read years ago they go back centuries, if not millennia. But not much came up. Here is one:
This is not intended as a criticism of Chinese or China, but as an example of deep-rooted underground skeins helping to drive unfolding events, though generally not acknowledged in typical analysis. Scorpion | Oct 26 2023 17:30 utc | 11 Posted by: bevin | Oct 26 2023 18:45 utc | 23 Scorpion | Oct 26 2023 17:30 utc | 11 Posted by: bevin | Oct 26 2023 18:45 utc | 24 Boiling point arriving. The SCO WILL protect its own. Posted by: DunGroanin | Oct 26 2023 19:04 utc | 25 Boiling point arriving. The SCO WILL protect its own. Posted by: DunGroanin | Oct 26 2023 19:04 utc | 26 today it seems that Biden told Russia to withdraw troops from Moldova…. Posted by: kamma43muri | Oct 26 2023 19:14 utc | 27 today it seems that Biden told Russia to withdraw troops from Moldova…. Posted by: kamma43muri | Oct 26 2023 19:14 utc | 28 Xinhuanet has a posting up about Xi meeting California Governor Newsom and below is what they quote Newsom as saying…read between the lines Posted by: smuks | Oct 26 2023 19:43 utc | 29 Xinhuanet has a posting up about Xi meeting California Governor Newsom and below is what they quote Newsom as saying…read between the lines Posted by: smuks | Oct 26 2023 19:43 utc | 30 The Smolensk incident was definitely not the source of anti-Russian policies… Posted by: smuks | Oct 26 2023 19:47 utc | 31 The Smolensk incident was definitely not the source of anti-Russian policies… Posted by: smuks | Oct 26 2023 19:47 utc | 32 @15 Posted by: leaf | Oct 26 2023 20:51 utc | 33 @15 Posted by: leaf | Oct 26 2023 20:51 utc | 34 Iran’s Foreign Minster at the UN:
Posted by: Passerby | Oct 26 2023 21:35 utc | 35 Iran’s Foreign Minster at the UN:
Posted by: Passerby | Oct 26 2023 21:35 utc | 36 leaf | Oct 26 2023 16:54 utc | 8 Posted by: S.P. Korolev | Oct 26 2023 21:41 utc | 37 leaf | Oct 26 2023 16:54 utc | 8 Posted by: S.P. Korolev | Oct 26 2023 21:41 utc | 38 @ smuks | Oct 26 2023 19:43 utc | 15 with the follow up of my Xi/Newsom meeting Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 26 2023 21:48 utc | 39 @ smuks | Oct 26 2023 19:43 utc | 15 with the follow up of my Xi/Newsom meeting Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 26 2023 21:48 utc | 40 : kamma43muri Posted by: Valerie P | Oct 26 2023 22:10 utc | 41 : kamma43muri Posted by: Valerie P | Oct 26 2023 22:10 utc | 42 Reuters is reporting Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 26 2023 22:50 utc | 43 Reuters is reporting Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 26 2023 22:50 utc | 44 leaf | Oct 26 2023 20:51 utc | 17 Posted by: smuks | Oct 26 2023 23:30 utc | 45 leaf | Oct 26 2023 20:51 utc | 17 Posted by: smuks | Oct 26 2023 23:30 utc | 46 @ smuks | Oct 26 2023 23:30 utc | 23 who wrote Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 26 2023 23:58 utc | 47 @ smuks | Oct 26 2023 23:30 utc | 23 who wrote Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 26 2023 23:58 utc | 48 Here’s a heads-up, maybe, God I hope not. Two weeks ago Michael Vickers, a reasonably high-ranking US Intel personage, spoke out at the LBJ School of Government, the UT version of KSG at Harvard. Vicker’s main claim to fame is being the CIA in charge of the military aid dispensed to the Taliban back in the Charlie Wilson* days, back when we and the Taliban were friends, you know. Vickers didn’t have anything much to say, as he is a liar and coward trying to peddle a second-at-best-rate book. Vickers did let drop something interesting. Vickers firmly and clearly stated upfront that the Russians interfered greatly in the 2016 election, and that the US Intel establishment was convinced that they were going to do so again in the upcoming ’24 election, and that the intel establishment was going to be ready this time. Posted by: Daniel White | Oct 27 2023 0:12 utc | 49 Here’s a heads-up, maybe, God I hope not. Two weeks ago Michael Vickers, a reasonably high-ranking US Intel personage, spoke out at the LBJ School of Government, the UT version of KSG at Harvard. Vicker’s main claim to fame is being the CIA in charge of the military aid dispensed to the Taliban back in the Charlie Wilson* days, back when we and the Taliban were friends, you know. Vickers didn’t have anything much to say, as he is a liar and coward trying to peddle a second-at-best-rate book. Vickers did let drop something interesting. Vickers firmly and clearly stated upfront that the Russians interfered greatly in the 2016 election, and that the US Intel establishment was convinced that they were going to do so again in the upcoming ’24 election, and that the intel establishment was going to be ready this time. Posted by: Daniel White | Oct 27 2023 0:12 utc | 50 to Daniel White | Oct 27 2023 0:12 utc | 25 … Posted by: Cynic | Oct 27 2023 0:46 utc | 51 to Daniel White | Oct 27 2023 0:12 utc | 25 … Posted by: Cynic | Oct 27 2023 0:46 utc | 52 @ smuks 16 Posted by: fanto | Oct 27 2023 1:13 utc | 53 @ smuks 16 Posted by: fanto | Oct 27 2023 1:13 utc | 54 Zet at @4 – more info. Indeed good news! Posted by: daffyDuct | Oct 27 2023 1:14 utc | 55 Zet at @4 – more info. Indeed good news! Posted by: daffyDuct | Oct 27 2023 1:14 utc | 56 Meanwhile, on the Reset front, two articles by the same author Kit Knightly in the excellent Off-Guardian: Meanwhile, on the Reset front, two articles by the same author Kit Knightly in the excellent Off-Guardian: From the second piece above, a challenge to the multipolarists in our midst:
Food for thought. My own take is that there are several arenas or levels at play. I don’t think that the entire multipolarity development is mere theater, but I do suspect that there is much more to it than the feel-good generic terms with which it is generally described, never with any detail, specific mechanisms or concrete proposals. A sort of soft ideology. Ideologies are dangerous! From the second piece above, a challenge to the multipolarists in our midst:
Food for thought. My own take is that there are several arenas or levels at play. I don’t think that the entire multipolarity development is mere theater, but I do suspect that there is much more to it than the feel-good generic terms with which it is generally described, never with any detail, specific mechanisms or concrete proposals. A sort of soft ideology. Ideologies are dangerous! Multipolarity is coming into its own by China in the South China Sea, where both Philippines and China contend for ownership of Second Thomas Shoal. Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 27 2023 2:44 utc | 61 Multipolarity is coming into its own by China in the South China Sea, where both Philippines and China contend for ownership of Second Thomas Shoal. Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 27 2023 2:44 utc | 62 “Any attack on the Filipino aircraft, vessels, or armed forces will invoke … our Mutual Defence Treaty with the Philippines,” Biden said in remarks during a joint meeting with Australia’s prime minister. “Any attack on the Filipino aircraft, vessels, or armed forces will invoke … our Mutual Defence Treaty with the Philippines,” Biden said in remarks during a joint meeting with Australia’s prime minister. All I want for Christmas Posted by: ld | Oct 27 2023 3:50 utc | 65 All I want for Christmas Posted by: ld | Oct 27 2023 3:50 utc | 66 Woke up too early. Quick check to see how goes the 4 carrier groups and the unipolar death throes. Do we want to go with a bang or a whimper? Posted by: DunGroanin | Oct 27 2023 5:25 utc | 67 Woke up too early. Quick check to see how goes the 4 carrier groups and the unipolar death throes. Do we want to go with a bang or a whimper? Posted by: DunGroanin | Oct 27 2023 5:25 utc | 68 Xinhuanet has a posting up about a meeting that I wish I could have been a witness of
Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 27 2023 5:53 utc | 69 Xinhuanet has a posting up about a meeting that I wish I could have been a witness of
Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 27 2023 5:53 utc | 70 What does the sudden death of Li Keqiang (68) mean to Xi Jinping and China? Posted by: Antonym | Oct 27 2023 6:20 utc | 71 What does the sudden death of Li Keqiang (68) mean to Xi Jinping and China? Posted by: Antonym | Oct 27 2023 6:20 utc | 72 Welcome to the 5th Generation Psy War Posted by: Blob | Oct 27 2023 6:41 utc | 73 Welcome to the 5th Generation Psy War Posted by: Blob | Oct 27 2023 6:41 utc | 74 Ex premier Li Keqiang (68) biggest sin was to publicly tell that 600 million Chinese are living on just 1000 Yuan / US$ 137 a month. Posted by: Antonym | Oct 27 2023 6:49 utc | 75 Ex premier Li Keqiang (68) biggest sin was to publicly tell that 600 million Chinese are living on just 1000 Yuan / US$ 137 a month. Posted by: Antonym | Oct 27 2023 6:49 utc | 76 Ex premier Li Keqiang (68) biggest sin was to publicly tell that 600 million Chinese are living on just 1000 Yuan / US$ 137 a month. Posted by: Echo Chamber | Oct 27 2023 8:10 utc | 77 Ex premier Li Keqiang (68) biggest sin was to publicly tell that 600 million Chinese are living on just 1000 Yuan / US$ 137 a month. Posted by: Echo Chamber | Oct 27 2023 8:10 utc | 78 For me this is where it is all heading. Nation states will be forced to retreat back to what they once were. A country that looked after their own. Not because of politics but due to necessity. Things like the EU will very quickly become a thing of the past. As countries scramble to keep hold of and manage their own real resources so people can eat and sustain themselves. We will end up in a world of de growth just to survive. Posted by: Echo Chamber | Oct 27 2023 8:19 utc | 79 For me this is where it is all heading. Nation states will be forced to retreat back to what they once were. A country that looked after their own. Not because of politics but due to necessity. Things like the EU will very quickly become a thing of the past. As countries scramble to keep hold of and manage their own real resources so people can eat and sustain themselves. We will end up in a world of de growth just to survive. Posted by: Echo Chamber | Oct 27 2023 8:19 utc | 80 The Zionist state seems to want to maim both sides. One side with bombs the other with mRNA Posted by: Jacq | Oct 27 2023 8:20 utc | 81 The Zionist state seems to want to maim both sides. One side with bombs the other with mRNA Posted by: Jacq | Oct 27 2023 8:20 utc | 82 Taiwan is too clever to let itself be used (and destroyed) as US pawn against China. Japan, SK, Vietnam too. Philippines…not so sure. Current events should make it obvious US wouldn’t go to war for them, but does Manila know this? I hope they have close enough relations with regional states who’d bring them to their senses. Posted by: smuks | Oct 27 2023 8:39 utc | 83 Taiwan is too clever to let itself be used (and destroyed) as US pawn against China. Japan, SK, Vietnam too. Philippines…not so sure. Current events should make it obvious US wouldn’t go to war for them, but does Manila know this? I hope they have close enough relations with regional states who’d bring them to their senses. Posted by: smuks | Oct 27 2023 8:39 utc | 84 Sorry – that was replying to: Posted by: smuks | Oct 27 2023 8:40 utc | 85 Sorry – that was replying to: Posted by: smuks | Oct 27 2023 8:40 utc | 86 Echo Chamber | Oct 27 2023 8:19 utc | 40 Posted by: smuks | Oct 27 2023 8:49 utc | 87 Echo Chamber | Oct 27 2023 8:19 utc | 40 Posted by: smuks | Oct 27 2023 8:49 utc | 88 Newsom got treated with a direct meeting with Xi as he went knocking on his door for Halloween expecting the same as the rest of his ‘team’. Posted by: Bemildred | Oct 27 2023 10:31 utc | 89 Newsom got treated with a direct meeting with Xi as he went knocking on his door for Halloween expecting the same as the rest of his ‘team’. Posted by: Bemildred | Oct 27 2023 10:31 utc | 90 Just to add to the conversation about California & China, Newsome meeting Xi Jinping, there was an ETSI Summit in Palo Alto (I think it was) recently. It included reps of all Five of the Eyes, including the head of Canada’s spy agency, CSIS. Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Oct 27 2023 10:58 utc | 91 Just to add to the conversation about California & China, Newsome meeting Xi Jinping, there was an ETSI Summit in Palo Alto (I think it was) recently. It included reps of all Five of the Eyes, including the head of Canada’s spy agency, CSIS. Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Oct 27 2023 10:58 utc | 92 Really shilling for Oh-Gee agit proppers and their head boy Red-Brown nosing Kit? A Knight of Neee BrexShithead? Posted by: DunGroanin | Oct 27 2023 11:10 utc | 93 Really shilling for Oh-Gee agit proppers and their head boy Red-Brown nosing Kit? A Knight of Neee BrexShithead? Posted by: DunGroanin | Oct 27 2023 11:10 utc | 94 First major snowstorm hits the Northern USA. Hope they weren’t relying on any of that de-icing salt that can’t be shipped through the St. Lawrence Seaway, due to a strike. Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Oct 27 2023 11:31 utc | 95 First major snowstorm hits the Northern USA. Hope they weren’t relying on any of that de-icing salt that can’t be shipped through the St. Lawrence Seaway, due to a strike. Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Oct 27 2023 11:31 utc | 96 Interesting take on modern education and academia Posted by: Dogon Priest | Oct 27 2023 11:42 utc | 97 Interesting take on modern education and academia Posted by: Dogon Priest | Oct 27 2023 11:42 utc | 98 Forgot link Posted by: Dogon Priest | Oct 27 2023 11:44 utc | 99 Forgot link Posted by: Dogon Priest | Oct 27 2023 11:44 utc | 100 |
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