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September 25, 2023
Ukraine SitRep: Battlefield Reports Show Lack Of Armor And Certain Munitions

Certain trends on the Ukrainian battle field can be seen in the daily reports the Russian military puts outs.

When the Ukrainian president Zelensky visited Washington he was criticized for his failing military strategy:

Ukraine will retake the fiercely contested eastern city of Bakhmut from Russia by the end of the year, President Volodymyr Zelensky predicted during his visit to Washington, an assertion that shows the gulf between Kyiv and American war planners who believe that Ukraine should be focusing more on the south.

U.S. intelligence and military officials have long questioned why Ukraine has fought so hard in Bakhmut, the scene of one of the bloodiest battles of the war. In March, Defense Secretary Lloyd J. Austin III said the city was “more of a symbolic value than it is strategic and operational value.”

But Mr. Zelensky has been intent on trying to retake lost territory, and Ukraine has committed large numbers of troops and weapons to retaking Bakhmut and defending the surrounding Donbas region.

Some American officials say the fight in Bakhmut has become something of an obsession for Mr. Zelensky and his military leaders. The Ukrainians’ relentless focus on the city led them to believe that a possible victory was just around the corner, long after American officials had counseled them to move on to other targets because victory for either side would be pyrrhic.

I somewhat agree with U.S. officials on Bakhmut. It no longer has any strategic value for the Ukraine and its army is losing many soldiers and equipment in its continuing attacks there. In fact it is currently losing many more around Bakhmut than it is losing in its southern attack towards the Sea of Azov.

Today's report by the Russian Ministry of Defense lists 445 Ukrainian casualties in the Donetzk direction, mostly around Bakhmut, and only 100 casualties on the Zaporozhye front in the south. Yesterday's report had 305 versus 35. Last week's summary listed 1,455 Ukrainian troops killed and wounded around Bakhmut and 515 in the southern direction. There was no discernible progress in either direction.

Another trend noticeable in the daily reports is an increasing Ukrainian lack of armored vehicles.

A month ago the reported destruction of armored vehicles (including tanks) and unarmored trucks and pick-ups was still somewhat equal with, depending on the intensity of fighting, some 10-20 of both being destroyed per day. This has been the case since early March. My spreadsheet derived from the daily reports since March 2 sums up a total of 3,663 armored versus 3,600 unarmored vehicles as Ukrainian losses.

Over the last weeks that ratio has changed. Today the report says 12 armored versus 20 unarmored rides. Yesterday the ratio was 7 to 19. Last week's summary lists 84 armored versus 145 unarmored vehicles. Over the last 30 days the numbers are 419 armored versus 632 unarmored.

The ratio has not changed due to tactics. The first counter-offensive movements with high concentrations of tanks have failed. But those were only a few days with high armor losses. Ukraine has since emphasized infantry attacks. But the soldiers must still be transported towards their frontline positions. It is what armored vehicles, also called battle taxis, are used for as the frontline is usually under strong artillery fire. But it now seems that trucks and pick-ups are also used for this. They do not have a chance to survive under fire.

The lack of armor is likely caused by Russian kamikaze drones who are hunting down any single ride they can find. Replenishment from the West, which is running out of reserve vehicles, is no longer enough to replace what the Ukrainian army is losing on the battlefield.

Another trend can be seen in the type of Ukrainian artillery that the daily reports claim as destroyed. The Soviet era 152mm howitzer D-20 and MSTA-B as well as the self propelled 152mm Akatzíya are becoming less mentioned. There are now higher losses of 122mm D-30 and the self propelled 122mm 2S1 Gvodzdika. The bigger guns could reach further. Their diminishing numbers have been replaced by western derived 155 mm guns like the British made M-777 howitzer and various types of western self propelled 155mm howitzers like the Polish Krab systems. The daily reports show increasing losses of those. Losses of Soviet era Multi Launch Rocket Systems like the truck mounted Grad system have become a rarity on the Ukrainian side.

The observable change in destroyed guns likely reflects the availability of ammunition, or rather the lack of it. In February the New York Times reported that the production of 122mm ammunition in Bulgaria has been increased:

The factory stopped making the 122-millimeter shells in 1988 as the Cold War came to a close. But soon the assembly lines will be running again. Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has turned Soviet-era arms and ammunition into critically important matériel as Western nations seek to supply Ukraine with the munitions it needs to foil Moscow’s assault.

And so in January, 35 years after the last 122-millimeter shells left the Terem plant, the company recommissioned production.

I have seen no such reports for a 152 mm production line. Nor can I find any report about the production of Grad missiles. The systems which use those no longer appear on the battlefield as they have become useless.

While probably not exact in their numbers the daily reports by the Russian Ministry of Defense do show certain trends on the battle field that  reflect the economic and logistic realities of the war quite well.

The overall high number of Ukrainian human losses in these reports, especially in the Bakhmut direction, have been confirmed by reports from the Ukrainian side. Videos also show that the Ukrainian side is using fewer armored vehicles and more trucks or even civilian vehicles. The losses of artillery pieces reflect the reported availability of certain types of ammunition.

Following the daily Russian reports is quite useful. I wonder why western media are not doing it.

Comments

Crooke was on Going Underground, which is an RT production, for a 28 minute conversation, “Alastair Crooke: ENORMOUS Tensions in Ukraine, USA’s Increasing Isolation & Europe Becoming a Vassal”. For those who’ve been watching events everywhere very closely, he doesn’t say much of anything that’s new. I’ll be interested to see how his conversation with Judge Napolitano goes, if it occurs this week, in comparison with his GU appearance.
Crooke’s SCF essay, “The ‘Last Man’ Teleology and the Fall of the West” is more about what he called “the greater jihad” on GU, not the “lesser jihad” which is the conflict in Ukraine.
The 30 day forecast for Donetsk predicts unusually dry weather and the same is true for Kharkov region. Lots of sunny skies for drones and their pilots.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 25 2023 20:39 utc | 101

Crooke was on Going Underground, which is an RT production, for a 28 minute conversation, “Alastair Crooke: ENORMOUS Tensions in Ukraine, USA’s Increasing Isolation & Europe Becoming a Vassal”. For those who’ve been watching events everywhere very closely, he doesn’t say much of anything that’s new. I’ll be interested to see how his conversation with Judge Napolitano goes, if it occurs this week, in comparison with his GU appearance.
Crooke’s SCF essay, “The ‘Last Man’ Teleology and the Fall of the West” is more about what he called “the greater jihad” on GU, not the “lesser jihad” which is the conflict in Ukraine.
The 30 day forecast for Donetsk predicts unusually dry weather and the same is true for Kharkov region. Lots of sunny skies for drones and their pilots.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 25 2023 20:39 utc | 102

Is HIMARS a ballistic weapon? If so, why cant Russian army deduce the positions of launchers?
Posted by: Simplex | Sep 25 2023 19:13 utc | 43

They can tell the location. But it takes time. The HIMARS is a truck-mounted weapon. So as soon as it fires it moves to another location. By the time Russia has figured out where it fired from, the truck has moved.

Posted by: Simon | Sep 25 2023 20:46 utc | 103

Is HIMARS a ballistic weapon? If so, why cant Russian army deduce the positions of launchers?
Posted by: Simplex | Sep 25 2023 19:13 utc | 43

They can tell the location. But it takes time. The HIMARS is a truck-mounted weapon. So as soon as it fires it moves to another location. By the time Russia has figured out where it fired from, the truck has moved.

Posted by: Simon | Sep 25 2023 20:46 utc | 104

I am sure Russia is eagerly awaiting the Abrams arrival so they can add one or two to the growing collection of western War trophies in Patriot’s Park
Posted by: Golddigger | Sep 25 2023 17:12 utc | 8
In light of the German crewed Leopard allegations.
Who will crew these machines?

Posted by: jpc | Sep 25 2023 20:54 utc | 105

I am sure Russia is eagerly awaiting the Abrams arrival so they can add one or two to the growing collection of western War trophies in Patriot’s Park
Posted by: Golddigger | Sep 25 2023 17:12 utc | 8
In light of the German crewed Leopard allegations.
Who will crew these machines?

Posted by: jpc | Sep 25 2023 20:54 utc | 106

The telegraph radio station is the most pro Ukrainian thing around their guest speaker today said the troops at the front are low in moral and are starting to question leadership and seriously doubt they can achieve any of the goals the west has set out.
It seems like either NATO enters this war soon or it will be over shortly. The Russians have no intentions of letting these guys off the hook. It’s going to be an interesting couple of months.

Posted by: OohCanada | Sep 25 2023 20:56 utc | 107

The telegraph radio station is the most pro Ukrainian thing around their guest speaker today said the troops at the front are low in moral and are starting to question leadership and seriously doubt they can achieve any of the goals the west has set out.
It seems like either NATO enters this war soon or it will be over shortly. The Russians have no intentions of letting these guys off the hook. It’s going to be an interesting couple of months.

Posted by: OohCanada | Sep 25 2023 20:56 utc | 108

ZimInSeattle | Sep 25 2023 20:00 utc | 51
The report I read had the Leopard driver dying shortly after talking to the Russians. I don’t believe that even got out of the tank. Whether the Russians got his body out is unknown. If the story is true.
b
The M-777, whilst having an element of British design, is made in the US.
Is HOMARS a ballistic weapon? If so, why cant Russian army deduce the positions of launchers?
Posted by: Simplex | Sep 25 2023 19:13 utc | 43
The HIMARS is ballistic which is why the Russians are able to shoot so many down in areas where they have AD sited. The Russians have almost failed to destroy any launcher due to them moving as soon as they have fired the missiles. Whether that will change when more persistent Recon UAV are deployed in larger numbers remains to be see. But with ATACMS probably coming there is an increased need as, like the Iskander, it has final stage maneuvering.

Posted by: JohninMK | Sep 25 2023 20:56 utc | 109

ZimInSeattle | Sep 25 2023 20:00 utc | 51
The report I read had the Leopard driver dying shortly after talking to the Russians. I don’t believe that even got out of the tank. Whether the Russians got his body out is unknown. If the story is true.
b
The M-777, whilst having an element of British design, is made in the US.
Is HOMARS a ballistic weapon? If so, why cant Russian army deduce the positions of launchers?
Posted by: Simplex | Sep 25 2023 19:13 utc | 43
The HIMARS is ballistic which is why the Russians are able to shoot so many down in areas where they have AD sited. The Russians have almost failed to destroy any launcher due to them moving as soon as they have fired the missiles. Whether that will change when more persistent Recon UAV are deployed in larger numbers remains to be see. But with ATACMS probably coming there is an increased need as, like the Iskander, it has final stage maneuvering.

Posted by: JohninMK | Sep 25 2023 20:56 utc | 110

get a flight to the war zone, put on a war helmet and body armour, and go count bodies
Posted by: madmarc | Sep 25 2023 20:03 utc | 54
The US government regularly provided body count figures during the Vietnam war. Any body would, real or fudged, do so long as the numbers looked positive. Clearly official policy to keep the home front thinking the right way.
Lot’s of comments passed among the grunts about that back in the day.
Then came Watergate, and it was all for naught. All the bodies, all the horror, all the PTSD, the legless, the broken minds and the forever broken hearts.
That term btw evolved from WW1 shell shock, to WW2 battle fatigue..you know, folks just got fatigued, then came the ever more professional PTSD. Took me a while to grasp that one.
For My Country. And now the Battle lines are being drawn again it seems.
I do wish some many who post here could be more aware. No offense intended madmarc. I like your choice of handle btw..In a time of universal deceit.
Deceit isn’t exactly new though, nor exclusive to any particular region.

Posted by: bubbles | Sep 25 2023 20:57 utc | 111

get a flight to the war zone, put on a war helmet and body armour, and go count bodies
Posted by: madmarc | Sep 25 2023 20:03 utc | 54
The US government regularly provided body count figures during the Vietnam war. Any body would, real or fudged, do so long as the numbers looked positive. Clearly official policy to keep the home front thinking the right way.
Lot’s of comments passed among the grunts about that back in the day.
Then came Watergate, and it was all for naught. All the bodies, all the horror, all the PTSD, the legless, the broken minds and the forever broken hearts.
That term btw evolved from WW1 shell shock, to WW2 battle fatigue..you know, folks just got fatigued, then came the ever more professional PTSD. Took me a while to grasp that one.
For My Country. And now the Battle lines are being drawn again it seems.
I do wish some many who post here could be more aware. No offense intended madmarc. I like your choice of handle btw..In a time of universal deceit.
Deceit isn’t exactly new though, nor exclusive to any particular region.

Posted by: bubbles | Sep 25 2023 20:57 utc | 112

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 25 2023 20:39 utc | 57
Salud barflies,just came to tell you that I’m gone, like Gaisnbourg’s song. The tragedy is so great that its easy to loose voice and reasoning. I keep an eye though, but I cannot let it consume my time and myself, it is destructive like the times in general. So that was it, I just dropped by to say hi, just read in Dzen an article by Dugin -Darya’s father as he signs- absolute rupture with the degenerate and decaying west, that’s the only option for Russia’s survival, that’s his thesis, after the Canadian horror show that statement makes a lot of sense. Cheers.

Posted by: Paco | Sep 25 2023 20:57 utc | 113

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 25 2023 20:39 utc | 57
Salud barflies,just came to tell you that I’m gone, like Gaisnbourg’s song. The tragedy is so great that its easy to loose voice and reasoning. I keep an eye though, but I cannot let it consume my time and myself, it is destructive like the times in general. So that was it, I just dropped by to say hi, just read in Dzen an article by Dugin -Darya’s father as he signs- absolute rupture with the degenerate and decaying west, that’s the only option for Russia’s survival, that’s his thesis, after the Canadian horror show that statement makes a lot of sense. Cheers.

Posted by: Paco | Sep 25 2023 20:57 utc | 114

As for The Journal’s factcheck team, if you want credibility, pack a bag and get a flight to the war zone, put on a war helmet and body armour, and go count bodies, instead of sitting in your mom’s basement Googling facts. Honestly B, I don’t know how you let this b.s. get in print, and same goes for Soothsayer, that dipshit hasn’t printed a fact yet.
Posted by: madmarc | Sep 25 2023 20:03 utc | 54
Well said.
This is the trusted information people are fed in approved narrative channels.
All the lies fit to print.
Oh and discredit Claire Daly before the euro elections.
Shoddy hacks masquerading as journalists.

Posted by: jpc | Sep 25 2023 21:01 utc | 115

As for The Journal’s factcheck team, if you want credibility, pack a bag and get a flight to the war zone, put on a war helmet and body armour, and go count bodies, instead of sitting in your mom’s basement Googling facts. Honestly B, I don’t know how you let this b.s. get in print, and same goes for Soothsayer, that dipshit hasn’t printed a fact yet.
Posted by: madmarc | Sep 25 2023 20:03 utc | 54
Well said.
This is the trusted information people are fed in approved narrative channels.
All the lies fit to print.
Oh and discredit Claire Daly before the euro elections.
Shoddy hacks masquerading as journalists.

Posted by: jpc | Sep 25 2023 21:01 utc | 116

hey paco… good to see you! stay well!

Posted by: james | Sep 25 2023 21:02 utc | 117

hey paco… good to see you! stay well!

Posted by: james | Sep 25 2023 21:02 utc | 118

Cecil Lena @ 40, Zim in Seattle @ 51:
I saw mention of the news about the Russian capture of the Leopard tank and its apparent all-German crew a few days ago on Sputnik News website. There was mention of it on a past MoA comments forum. Unfortunately we will have to wait for more information from both Russian and non-Russian sources to verify if the news is correct. One would have thought by now that the Russian govt would have ordered the German ambassador in Moscow to a meeting about this news or that German Chancellor Olaf Scholz or Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock might have made a statement. (Though Scholz and Baerbock don’t seem terribly bright so we should not wonder that they will do the right thing and contact Moscow for more details.)
Of the four soldiers in the captured tank, one apparently survived long enough to tell his captors that he and his crew mates were Bundeswehr men before he died. The others were already dead when the Russians reached the tank. This information still has to be verified.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Sep 25 2023 21:03 utc | 119

Cecil Lena @ 40, Zim in Seattle @ 51:
I saw mention of the news about the Russian capture of the Leopard tank and its apparent all-German crew a few days ago on Sputnik News website. There was mention of it on a past MoA comments forum. Unfortunately we will have to wait for more information from both Russian and non-Russian sources to verify if the news is correct. One would have thought by now that the Russian govt would have ordered the German ambassador in Moscow to a meeting about this news or that German Chancellor Olaf Scholz or Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock might have made a statement. (Though Scholz and Baerbock don’t seem terribly bright so we should not wonder that they will do the right thing and contact Moscow for more details.)
Of the four soldiers in the captured tank, one apparently survived long enough to tell his captors that he and his crew mates were Bundeswehr men before he died. The others were already dead when the Russians reached the tank. This information still has to be verified.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Sep 25 2023 21:03 utc | 120

Posted by: xor | Sep 25 2023 17:01 utc | 5 “Ukrainian forces use HIMARS/M270 to hit a Russian antenna.”
What in the video shows it was a HIMARS/M270?

Posted by: ed5 | Sep 25 2023 21:07 utc | 121

Posted by: xor | Sep 25 2023 17:01 utc | 5 “Ukrainian forces use HIMARS/M270 to hit a Russian antenna.”
What in the video shows it was a HIMARS/M270?

Posted by: ed5 | Sep 25 2023 21:07 utc | 122

Posted by: Phil | Sep 25 2023 21:01 utc | 66
It could be true but there is no verification of it. There is certainly no soldier from the tank still alive to confirm it. The Leopard was hit by an ATGM killing all but the driver on impact. The driver survived for a while.

Posted by: JohninMK | Sep 25 2023 21:07 utc | 123

Posted by: Phil | Sep 25 2023 21:01 utc | 66
It could be true but there is no verification of it. There is certainly no soldier from the tank still alive to confirm it. The Leopard was hit by an ATGM killing all but the driver on impact. The driver survived for a while.

Posted by: JohninMK | Sep 25 2023 21:07 utc | 124

America is being destroyed by its enlightenment “values” which have led to OnlyFans, obesity, transvestite Generals, and the commercialized murder of the unborn.
Immigrants are convenient scapegoats because they are the “other”. Not all of them want to slaughter the next generation, or pimp out their daughters as cam whores, or castrate their sons before puberty. Those mental illnesses are relatively unique to the West, and America in particular.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 25 2023 19:10 utc | 42

The rich succeeded in making eternal immigration a sacred cow. No one says anything bad about legal immigrants. Illegal migration (whose children become Democrats) has become a sacred cow among Democrats who no longer care about USA workers (although being tested now as Texas buses them to New York City). On the Republican side the rich love illegal workers as they lower USA wages and also allow them to hire a 22 year old Guatemalan over a 55 year old American to, for example, replace roofs. Both parties support illegal workers. Their rich donors love the cheap labor. Which is why neither party gets the government to penalize employees who hire MILLIONS of illegal workers. The amount of “scapegoating” that goes on regarding legal immigrants taking jobs and suppressing wages is zero. The amount with regard to illegal migrants is close to zero. Only Trump made it an issue and he never enforced workplace laws regarding illegal workers and never cared about building a wall until he lost Congress and got push back from some conservative commentators and their readers/listeners. And enforcing a law is not “scapegoating”. The law exists for a reason, one of which is protecting American workers. Unfortunately for Americans, money in politics has resulted in two parties who don’t care about American workers.

Posted by: Simon | Sep 25 2023 21:08 utc | 125

America is being destroyed by its enlightenment “values” which have led to OnlyFans, obesity, transvestite Generals, and the commercialized murder of the unborn.
Immigrants are convenient scapegoats because they are the “other”. Not all of them want to slaughter the next generation, or pimp out their daughters as cam whores, or castrate their sons before puberty. Those mental illnesses are relatively unique to the West, and America in particular.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 25 2023 19:10 utc | 42

The rich succeeded in making eternal immigration a sacred cow. No one says anything bad about legal immigrants. Illegal migration (whose children become Democrats) has become a sacred cow among Democrats who no longer care about USA workers (although being tested now as Texas buses them to New York City). On the Republican side the rich love illegal workers as they lower USA wages and also allow them to hire a 22 year old Guatemalan over a 55 year old American to, for example, replace roofs. Both parties support illegal workers. Their rich donors love the cheap labor. Which is why neither party gets the government to penalize employees who hire MILLIONS of illegal workers. The amount of “scapegoating” that goes on regarding legal immigrants taking jobs and suppressing wages is zero. The amount with regard to illegal migrants is close to zero. Only Trump made it an issue and he never enforced workplace laws regarding illegal workers and never cared about building a wall until he lost Congress and got push back from some conservative commentators and their readers/listeners. And enforcing a law is not “scapegoating”. The law exists for a reason, one of which is protecting American workers. Unfortunately for Americans, money in politics has resulted in two parties who don’t care about American workers.

Posted by: Simon | Sep 25 2023 21:08 utc | 126

Of the four soldiers in the captured tank, one apparently survived long enough to tell his captors that he and his crew mates were Bundeswehr men before he died. The others were already dead when the Russians reached the tank. This information still has to be verified.
Posted by: Refinnejenna | Sep 25 2023 21:03 utc | 68

He also told them that they are all from the same company.
I assume that the Russian soldiers speak German.

Posted by: Nobody | Sep 25 2023 21:09 utc | 127

Of the four soldiers in the captured tank, one apparently survived long enough to tell his captors that he and his crew mates were Bundeswehr men before he died. The others were already dead when the Russians reached the tank. This information still has to be verified.
Posted by: Refinnejenna | Sep 25 2023 21:03 utc | 68

He also told them that they are all from the same company.
I assume that the Russian soldiers speak German.

Posted by: Nobody | Sep 25 2023 21:09 utc | 128

Western press does not monitor Russian MoD reports: Because it is all lies.
West does not monitor Russian language media: Because it is all lies.
West censors English language Russian outlets: Because it is all lies.
Western press does not cover Putin/Lavrov: Because it is all lies.
Western social media has deleted Russian voices: Because it is all lies.
Putin claims 2+2=4 Don’t believe it.

Posted by: Erelis | Sep 25 2023 21:13 utc | 129

Western press does not monitor Russian MoD reports: Because it is all lies.
West does not monitor Russian language media: Because it is all lies.
West censors English language Russian outlets: Because it is all lies.
Western press does not cover Putin/Lavrov: Because it is all lies.
Western social media has deleted Russian voices: Because it is all lies.
Putin claims 2+2=4 Don’t believe it.

Posted by: Erelis | Sep 25 2023 21:13 utc | 130

Posted by: JohninMK | Sep 25 2023 21:07 utc | 70
It would be interesting to know whether they were active serviceman or de-enlisted from Bundeswehr. Nato de-enlists personnel and sends them under AFU banner, the personnel also get their wage and other benefits. Earlier there was even a claim that regular drafted servicemen can get the time they spend fighting under AFU banner, it will be counted to their service record (this could be more likely).

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 25 2023 21:13 utc | 131

Posted by: JohninMK | Sep 25 2023 21:07 utc | 70
It would be interesting to know whether they were active serviceman or de-enlisted from Bundeswehr. Nato de-enlists personnel and sends them under AFU banner, the personnel also get their wage and other benefits. Earlier there was even a claim that regular drafted servicemen can get the time they spend fighting under AFU banner, it will be counted to their service record (this could be more likely).

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 25 2023 21:13 utc | 132

Paco | Sep 25 2023 20:57 utc | 63–
Thanks for your note, Paco. I finally initiated a substack account and have been rather active producing material for it. You can get to it via my hyperlinked name.
Yes, severance is one way, but it doesn’t solve all problems.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 25 2023 21:13 utc | 133

Paco | Sep 25 2023 20:57 utc | 63–
Thanks for your note, Paco. I finally initiated a substack account and have been rather active producing material for it. You can get to it via my hyperlinked name.
Yes, severance is one way, but it doesn’t solve all problems.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 25 2023 21:13 utc | 134

Posted by: Erelis | Sep 25 2023 21:13 utc | 73
The western press is very selective what they report in Ukraine. Ukraine could lose 500 men and 50 AFVs to take a single barrier trench west of Verbove and MSM will immediately report that AFU has broken through the Surovikin line (5th time this month).

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 25 2023 21:14 utc | 135

Posted by: Erelis | Sep 25 2023 21:13 utc | 73
The western press is very selective what they report in Ukraine. Ukraine could lose 500 men and 50 AFVs to take a single barrier trench west of Verbove and MSM will immediately report that AFU has broken through the Surovikin line (5th time this month).

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 25 2023 21:14 utc | 136

Erelis | Sep 25 2023 21:13 utc | 73–
Yes, Putin has weaponized Western stupidity and ignorance.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 25 2023 21:15 utc | 137

Erelis | Sep 25 2023 21:13 utc | 73–
Yes, Putin has weaponized Western stupidity and ignorance.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 25 2023 21:15 utc | 138

As Lindsey Graham said, this is the best money the US has ever spent, which is why the usual anti-American crowd who want America to fall have suddenly become so concerned about the wellbeing of America’s public purse, I’m sure they have the best interest of America and NATO in mind…
Posted by: Soothsayer | Sep 25 2023 17:26 utc | 12
I love how openly you celebrate the American Axis’s evil. Making it increasingly clear to all the world which is the right side in this struggle.

Posted by: PB | Sep 25 2023 21:15 utc | 139

As Lindsey Graham said, this is the best money the US has ever spent, which is why the usual anti-American crowd who want America to fall have suddenly become so concerned about the wellbeing of America’s public purse, I’m sure they have the best interest of America and NATO in mind…
Posted by: Soothsayer | Sep 25 2023 17:26 utc | 12
I love how openly you celebrate the American Axis’s evil. Making it increasingly clear to all the world which is the right side in this struggle.

Posted by: PB | Sep 25 2023 21:15 utc | 140

“Kremlin is to too slow while western resources are inexhaustible.
Posted by: simplex | Sep 25 2023 17:54 utc | 18”
U.S. Treasury 30 year Bond Index dropped from 183 2 years ago to 114 today. That is a 38% haircut on $ Trillions of U.S. Bond “assets”
10 year Bonds dropped from 141 to 108, a 23% drop in 2 years.
So who is going to keep purchasing U.S. Government Debt without ever increasing interest rates, which, in turn, reduce the value of all previous U.S. Government Debt held by others?
From a Military perspective, rope-a-dope by Russia with the West’s Nazis in Ukraine, might not continue but Financially, the Nincompoops in the District of Corruption, are burning the U.S. to the ground.
Western Fiction/Narratives are inexhaustible, “resources” are scarce, and now Western Money has a price on it’s head.

Posted by: kupkee | Sep 25 2023 21:29 utc | 141

“Kremlin is to too slow while western resources are inexhaustible.
Posted by: simplex | Sep 25 2023 17:54 utc | 18”
U.S. Treasury 30 year Bond Index dropped from 183 2 years ago to 114 today. That is a 38% haircut on $ Trillions of U.S. Bond “assets”
10 year Bonds dropped from 141 to 108, a 23% drop in 2 years.
So who is going to keep purchasing U.S. Government Debt without ever increasing interest rates, which, in turn, reduce the value of all previous U.S. Government Debt held by others?
From a Military perspective, rope-a-dope by Russia with the West’s Nazis in Ukraine, might not continue but Financially, the Nincompoops in the District of Corruption, are burning the U.S. to the ground.
Western Fiction/Narratives are inexhaustible, “resources” are scarce, and now Western Money has a price on it’s head.

Posted by: kupkee | Sep 25 2023 21:29 utc | 142

hey paco… good to see you! stay well!
Posted by: james | Sep 25 2023 21:02 utc | 67
You are a true gentleman James, and an underutilized Canadian asset.

Posted by: bubbles | Sep 25 2023 21:31 utc | 143

hey paco… good to see you! stay well!
Posted by: james | Sep 25 2023 21:02 utc | 67
You are a true gentleman James, and an underutilized Canadian asset.

Posted by: bubbles | Sep 25 2023 21:31 utc | 144

It’s better not to trust the figures coming out of either Ministry of Defence, Ukraine’s or Russia’s. Both ministries release absurd figures for the losses of the other side.
Posted by: Soothsayer | Sep 25 2023 18:24 utc | 28
Not true. Past records have shown that Ukraine MOD manufactures fantastical information and fakes data continuously.

Posted by: KiyaySupporter | Sep 25 2023 21:31 utc | 145

It’s better not to trust the figures coming out of either Ministry of Defence, Ukraine’s or Russia’s. Both ministries release absurd figures for the losses of the other side.
Posted by: Soothsayer | Sep 25 2023 18:24 utc | 28
Not true. Past records have shown that Ukraine MOD manufactures fantastical information and fakes data continuously.

Posted by: KiyaySupporter | Sep 25 2023 21:31 utc | 146

Posted by: Lalita | Sep 25 2023 21:00 utc | 64
How are you calculating the Russian dead of 35,000-70,000?

Posted by: Night Tripper | Sep 25 2023 21:32 utc | 147

Posted by: Lalita | Sep 25 2023 21:00 utc | 64
How are you calculating the Russian dead of 35,000-70,000?

Posted by: Night Tripper | Sep 25 2023 21:32 utc | 148

Armoured IFVs are pretty impressive. Here a German Marder 1A3 gets hit with an ATGM and it looks terminal for those inside – then you see 6 or 7 people legging it for safety from the rear door.
https://t.me/llordofwar/206998

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Sep 25 2023 21:33 utc | 149

Armoured IFVs are pretty impressive. Here a German Marder 1A3 gets hit with an ATGM and it looks terminal for those inside – then you see 6 or 7 people legging it for safety from the rear door.
https://t.me/llordofwar/206998

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Sep 25 2023 21:33 utc | 150

@YetAnotherAnon | Sep 25 2023 21:33 utc | 83
Just because they are still able to walk doesn’t mean that they are “saved”. But yes, if the protection isn’t good (for example, the M113) they would no longer be able to walk even a few meters.

Posted by: NoName | Sep 25 2023 21:40 utc | 151

@YetAnotherAnon | Sep 25 2023 21:33 utc | 83
Just because they are still able to walk doesn’t mean that they are “saved”. But yes, if the protection isn’t good (for example, the M113) they would no longer be able to walk even a few meters.

Posted by: NoName | Sep 25 2023 21:40 utc | 152

Posted by: anon2020 | Sep 25 2023 17:31 utc | 13
There are at least 3 Eastern European counties making 152mm shells and shipping them to Ukraine. For example the Slovak company, VOP Nováky.
In addition Ukraine is making some.
And as you say some are coming from Pakistan. And a few have turned up made in Iran. Likely seized from smuggling to the Houthis.

Posted by: ed5 | Sep 25 2023 21:44 utc | 153

Posted by: anon2020 | Sep 25 2023 17:31 utc | 13
There are at least 3 Eastern European counties making 152mm shells and shipping them to Ukraine. For example the Slovak company, VOP Nováky.
In addition Ukraine is making some.
And as you say some are coming from Pakistan. And a few have turned up made in Iran. Likely seized from smuggling to the Houthis.

Posted by: ed5 | Sep 25 2023 21:44 utc | 154

The speaker of Russia’s Duma, Vyacheslav Volodin, has made some powerful statements of fact as reported by TASS, “Ukraine to either surrender on Moscow’s terms or cease to exist — top Russian lawmaker”:

“When speaking about the conflict in Ukraine, [US President Joe] Biden, [NATO Secretary General Jens] Stoltenberg and other Western officials have started calling it ‘a war of attrition.’ They have put huge amounts of money into militarizing the Kiev regime. Where has it gotten them? The simple facts are these: the West is experiencing weapons and ammunition shortages, people in Europe and the US have lost trust in politicians, and the Kiev regime’s counteroffensive has failed,” Volodin stated.
According to him, the outcome of the “war of attrition” also includes economic problems in Europe and the US, a lack of manpower for the Ukrainian armed forces, and ultimately bankruptcy and demographic disaster for Ukraine. “These seven facts speak for themselves: Ukraine will cease to exist as a state unless the Kiev regime capitulates on Russia’s terms,” Volodin stressed.
“More than 10.5 million people have fled Ukraine. Another 11.2 million residents of Crimea, Sevastopol, the Donetsk and Lugansk people’s republics and the Zaporozhye and Kherson regions decided to join Russia. Ukraine has lost 53.7% of its population since 2014,” the State Duma speaker highlighted.

A few more paragraphs follow, but the major gist is above. What he didn’t explain is what Russia’s terms are at this juncture. But saying Ukraine will disappear is beginning to be understood by more people as time goes forward and Ukraine keeps losing.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 25 2023 21:44 utc | 155

The speaker of Russia’s Duma, Vyacheslav Volodin, has made some powerful statements of fact as reported by TASS, “Ukraine to either surrender on Moscow’s terms or cease to exist — top Russian lawmaker”:

“When speaking about the conflict in Ukraine, [US President Joe] Biden, [NATO Secretary General Jens] Stoltenberg and other Western officials have started calling it ‘a war of attrition.’ They have put huge amounts of money into militarizing the Kiev regime. Where has it gotten them? The simple facts are these: the West is experiencing weapons and ammunition shortages, people in Europe and the US have lost trust in politicians, and the Kiev regime’s counteroffensive has failed,” Volodin stated.
According to him, the outcome of the “war of attrition” also includes economic problems in Europe and the US, a lack of manpower for the Ukrainian armed forces, and ultimately bankruptcy and demographic disaster for Ukraine. “These seven facts speak for themselves: Ukraine will cease to exist as a state unless the Kiev regime capitulates on Russia’s terms,” Volodin stressed.
“More than 10.5 million people have fled Ukraine. Another 11.2 million residents of Crimea, Sevastopol, the Donetsk and Lugansk people’s republics and the Zaporozhye and Kherson regions decided to join Russia. Ukraine has lost 53.7% of its population since 2014,” the State Duma speaker highlighted.

A few more paragraphs follow, but the major gist is above. What he didn’t explain is what Russia’s terms are at this juncture. But saying Ukraine will disappear is beginning to be understood by more people as time goes forward and Ukraine keeps losing.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 25 2023 21:44 utc | 156

w | Sep 25 2023 19:39 utc | 48

Almost sure western media follow the daily reports of Russian MOD. But they are doing their job: filter out what they don’t want to talk about

IMV, No, media don’t follow RMoD reports, ever. Because they decided right from Minute 1, Day 1 of the sloSMO that all RMoD reports were lies.

And, having taken control of FB, twitterX, YT and other social sources, they are slowly only now discovering that the rest of us have migrated to telegram.
—-
Biggest laugh I’ve had for awhile (geopolitically), Canadian Jewish parliamentarians posing proudly with a real, live, living, authentic Nazi.
But he’s Ukrainian, and hates Putler, so he’s a good guy.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 25 2023 21:45 utc | 157

w | Sep 25 2023 19:39 utc | 48

Almost sure western media follow the daily reports of Russian MOD. But they are doing their job: filter out what they don’t want to talk about

IMV, No, media don’t follow RMoD reports, ever. Because they decided right from Minute 1, Day 1 of the sloSMO that all RMoD reports were lies.

And, having taken control of FB, twitterX, YT and other social sources, they are slowly only now discovering that the rest of us have migrated to telegram.
—-
Biggest laugh I’ve had for awhile (geopolitically), Canadian Jewish parliamentarians posing proudly with a real, live, living, authentic Nazi.
But he’s Ukrainian, and hates Putler, so he’s a good guy.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 25 2023 21:45 utc | 158

While the Russian MoD seems to be generally factual, it’s always good practice to assume that military organizations are either lying or stretching the truth or presenting the palatable information. Though some, like the one in Kiev, dispense with reality completely.
Russian MoD does a good job of presenting its information in a way that’s not always easy to parse when it comes to destroyed equipment. And it’s purposefully vague in delineating killed / wounded or destroyed / damaged. That’s to be expected. It owes us nothing.
It’s still valuable information because there’s no good accusation that it’s making things up and pumping out propaganda like Kiev. It tells a lot about the pace and trend lines of the conflict, which is how b uses the information here and generally. And we can surmise that the MoD information is generally correct by the fact that if it was wrong Ukraine wouldn’t be constantly mobilizing more people, demanding more material from its sponsors and not making any significant gains for what are clearly large losses in soldiers and material.

Posted by: Lex | Sep 25 2023 21:47 utc | 159

While the Russian MoD seems to be generally factual, it’s always good practice to assume that military organizations are either lying or stretching the truth or presenting the palatable information. Though some, like the one in Kiev, dispense with reality completely.
Russian MoD does a good job of presenting its information in a way that’s not always easy to parse when it comes to destroyed equipment. And it’s purposefully vague in delineating killed / wounded or destroyed / damaged. That’s to be expected. It owes us nothing.
It’s still valuable information because there’s no good accusation that it’s making things up and pumping out propaganda like Kiev. It tells a lot about the pace and trend lines of the conflict, which is how b uses the information here and generally. And we can surmise that the MoD information is generally correct by the fact that if it was wrong Ukraine wouldn’t be constantly mobilizing more people, demanding more material from its sponsors and not making any significant gains for what are clearly large losses in soldiers and material.

Posted by: Lex | Sep 25 2023 21:47 utc | 160

” It’s terrible, a lot of Ukrainians were killed, why do Ukrainians continue to tolerate this and don’t try to overthrow these assholes with Zelensky? 3
Posted by: Crazy idiot | Sep 25 2023 18:12 utc | 24 ”
Why dont most conscripts refuse to go to war ? Or overthrow their governments if need be ? Same reasons.

Posted by: Shocked | Sep 25 2023 21:50 utc | 161

” It’s terrible, a lot of Ukrainians were killed, why do Ukrainians continue to tolerate this and don’t try to overthrow these assholes with Zelensky? 3
Posted by: Crazy idiot | Sep 25 2023 18:12 utc | 24 ”
Why dont most conscripts refuse to go to war ? Or overthrow their governments if need be ? Same reasons.

Posted by: Shocked | Sep 25 2023 21:50 utc | 162

Posted by: whirlX | Sep 25 2023 19:01 utc | 38 “The issue is that GPS is jammed heavily in the South-western part of the Black Sea and along the Romanian coast, so those NATO ISR assets are flying relatively protected.”
What does GPS jamming along the Romanian coast have to do with NATO ISR assets being relatively protected?

Posted by: ed5 | Sep 25 2023 21:54 utc | 163

Posted by: whirlX | Sep 25 2023 19:01 utc | 38 “The issue is that GPS is jammed heavily in the South-western part of the Black Sea and along the Romanian coast, so those NATO ISR assets are flying relatively protected.”
What does GPS jamming along the Romanian coast have to do with NATO ISR assets being relatively protected?

Posted by: ed5 | Sep 25 2023 21:54 utc | 164

Canada’s fake apologies
There is an interesting article on Sputnik about Canada’a Ukrainian Nazis.

Untold Story of How Canada Became a Safe Haven for Ukrainian WWII-era Nazis
Before World War II, Ukrainian Canadians were among the most tightly knit, pro-labor, pro-Moscow, and anti-fascist migrant communities living in the True North Strong and Free. That began to change after the war and the arrival of thousands of Ukrainian Nazi collaborators wanted for war crimes across Eastern Europe. This is their story.

In the end the article also discusses the world reaction to “Trudeau’s embarrassing stunt”. In reality, all the Canadian apologies are fake. Yaroslav Hunka was properly introduced. Everyone in Parliament stood up to applaud him. No one in Parliament can be so ignorant of history as to not know that Hunka “fought Russians” as part of Hitler’s army.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Sep 25 2023 21:58 utc | 165

Canada’s fake apologies
There is an interesting article on Sputnik about Canada’a Ukrainian Nazis.

Untold Story of How Canada Became a Safe Haven for Ukrainian WWII-era Nazis
Before World War II, Ukrainian Canadians were among the most tightly knit, pro-labor, pro-Moscow, and anti-fascist migrant communities living in the True North Strong and Free. That began to change after the war and the arrival of thousands of Ukrainian Nazi collaborators wanted for war crimes across Eastern Europe. This is their story.

In the end the article also discusses the world reaction to “Trudeau’s embarrassing stunt”. In reality, all the Canadian apologies are fake. Yaroslav Hunka was properly introduced. Everyone in Parliament stood up to applaud him. No one in Parliament can be so ignorant of history as to not know that Hunka “fought Russians” as part of Hitler’s army.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Sep 25 2023 21:58 utc | 166

JPC @ 59
Ukrainians have been training on Abrahams Tanks in Germany since at least last April.
Also crews from Poland and other NATO countries may be “Sheep Dipped” into Ukraine uniforms and fight as Mercs operating the tanks.
What I am wondering is who will do the specialized maint, and supply the truck convoys of spare parts and Jet fuel those hulks of iron require. Abrahams Tanks are impossible to repair in the field, unless repair is minor. They drink prodigious amounts of fuel, and Fuel tanker trucks are easy targets.
Broke down and out of fuel will not win any battles.

Posted by: Golddigger | Sep 25 2023 21:58 utc | 167

JPC @ 59
Ukrainians have been training on Abrahams Tanks in Germany since at least last April.
Also crews from Poland and other NATO countries may be “Sheep Dipped” into Ukraine uniforms and fight as Mercs operating the tanks.
What I am wondering is who will do the specialized maint, and supply the truck convoys of spare parts and Jet fuel those hulks of iron require. Abrahams Tanks are impossible to repair in the field, unless repair is minor. They drink prodigious amounts of fuel, and Fuel tanker trucks are easy targets.
Broke down and out of fuel will not win any battles.

Posted by: Golddigger | Sep 25 2023 21:58 utc | 168

Deceit isn’t exactly new though, nor exclusive to any particular region.
Posted by: bubbles | Sep 25 2023 20:57 utc | 62
I put up the original comment #11
Just to let people see the drivel put up as “trusted information ”
Anything but!
This is how this carnage continues.
Media lie.
Hundreds of thousands die.
And couldn’t care less.

Posted by: jpc | Sep 25 2023 22:02 utc | 169

Deceit isn’t exactly new though, nor exclusive to any particular region.
Posted by: bubbles | Sep 25 2023 20:57 utc | 62
I put up the original comment #11
Just to let people see the drivel put up as “trusted information ”
Anything but!
This is how this carnage continues.
Media lie.
Hundreds of thousands die.
And couldn’t care less.

Posted by: jpc | Sep 25 2023 22:02 utc | 170

Phil | Sep 25 2023 21:01 utc | 66

German Bundeswehr soldiers being killed in a German tank by Russians?
Have not read anything at all in the mainstream media.


Phil, Phil, Phil, … Phil. That’s why we’re here @bar…. When have you read anything useful in corporate controlled media?
——-
Why so many arriving here suddenly today with this agitation about Germans in German tanks?
Why today, when the @bar chewed over this days earlier?

Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 25 2023 22:02 utc | 171

Phil | Sep 25 2023 21:01 utc | 66

German Bundeswehr soldiers being killed in a German tank by Russians?
Have not read anything at all in the mainstream media.


Phil, Phil, Phil, … Phil. That’s why we’re here @bar…. When have you read anything useful in corporate controlled media?
——-
Why so many arriving here suddenly today with this agitation about Germans in German tanks?
Why today, when the @bar chewed over this days earlier?

Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 25 2023 22:02 utc | 172

About people dying in wars for a corrupt regime or a hopeless cause. Much depends on the culture but, for the most part, I’ve found in life that a sense of meaning in life trumps even life itself. Even if the soldiers know they are likely to die they still will go because they are part of something greater than themselves. This is less true in the USA and any other multi-cultural society.

Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Sep 25 2023 22:03 utc | 173

About people dying in wars for a corrupt regime or a hopeless cause. Much depends on the culture but, for the most part, I’ve found in life that a sense of meaning in life trumps even life itself. Even if the soldiers know they are likely to die they still will go because they are part of something greater than themselves. This is less true in the USA and any other multi-cultural society.

Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Sep 25 2023 22:03 utc | 174

They drink prodigious amounts of fuel, and Fuel tanker trucks are easy targets.
Broke down and out of fuel will not win any battles.
Posted by: Golddigger | Sep 25 2023 21:58 utc | 92
The Lancets will be busy.
Whoever thought jet turbines were a good idea for 68 tonne tanks didn’t think that through.

Posted by: jpc | Sep 25 2023 22:06 utc | 175

They drink prodigious amounts of fuel, and Fuel tanker trucks are easy targets.
Broke down and out of fuel will not win any battles.
Posted by: Golddigger | Sep 25 2023 21:58 utc | 92
The Lancets will be busy.
Whoever thought jet turbines were a good idea for 68 tonne tanks didn’t think that through.

Posted by: jpc | Sep 25 2023 22:06 utc | 176

@ bubbles | Sep 25 2023 21:31 utc | 80
thanks bubbles… you are as well!
————– regarding the numbers, i think richard steven hack has put a lot of effort and thought into this..
And Still Another Ukrainian Interlude…
Wherein I establish that nothing is getting better for Ukraine in terms of dead soldiers…

Posted by: james | Sep 25 2023 22:09 utc | 177

@ bubbles | Sep 25 2023 21:31 utc | 80
thanks bubbles… you are as well!
————– regarding the numbers, i think richard steven hack has put a lot of effort and thought into this..
And Still Another Ukrainian Interlude…
Wherein I establish that nothing is getting better for Ukraine in terms of dead soldiers…

Posted by: james | Sep 25 2023 22:09 utc | 178

Posted by: Simon | Sep 25 2023 21:08 utc | 71
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I don’t agree when people blame money or a system. The issues can be found in human nature. History is replete with examples of this sort of behavior and similar outcomes. Despite the white hat mythology of America, the people in that country are as susceptible to human nature as anyone else. Americans are not special, blessed, or enlightened. They just had Bretton Woods and a very flexible morality.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 25 2023 22:10 utc | 179

Posted by: Simon | Sep 25 2023 21:08 utc | 71
##############
I don’t agree when people blame money or a system. The issues can be found in human nature. History is replete with examples of this sort of behavior and similar outcomes. Despite the white hat mythology of America, the people in that country are as susceptible to human nature as anyone else. Americans are not special, blessed, or enlightened. They just had Bretton Woods and a very flexible morality.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 25 2023 22:10 utc | 180

Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Sep 25 2023 22:03 utc | 95
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Intention, incentives, and motivation are the most powerful human forces in my opinion.
From what I have seen, the US government has inflated education costs, which leads people to enlist to get help with paying tuition fees, and many low-value people sign up for the steady military paycheck. It’s not love of country or defense of family that motivates them. It’s not the warrior culture, or tradition, or the desire to achieve their maximum human potential.
And I imagine when you’re sitting in a wet trench a thousand miles from home, awake all night to the sounds of exploding shells, it’s a situation one cannot get away from fast enough. The only thing the Ukrainians have going for them is a relatively small number of hyper-nationalist patriots who think they are fighting a glorious and righteous battle against Russian “Orcs”.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 25 2023 22:18 utc | 181

Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Sep 25 2023 22:03 utc | 95
###############
Intention, incentives, and motivation are the most powerful human forces in my opinion.
From what I have seen, the US government has inflated education costs, which leads people to enlist to get help with paying tuition fees, and many low-value people sign up for the steady military paycheck. It’s not love of country or defense of family that motivates them. It’s not the warrior culture, or tradition, or the desire to achieve their maximum human potential.
And I imagine when you’re sitting in a wet trench a thousand miles from home, awake all night to the sounds of exploding shells, it’s a situation one cannot get away from fast enough. The only thing the Ukrainians have going for them is a relatively small number of hyper-nationalist patriots who think they are fighting a glorious and righteous battle against Russian “Orcs”.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 25 2023 22:18 utc | 182

Trudeau blames Russians for Canadian parliament praising nazis
https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1706391596869226981

Justin Trudeau blames Russian propaganda for Canadian Parliament honoring a Nazi.
“Obviously, it’s extremely upsetting that this happened… this is something that is deeply embarrassing to the Parliament of Canada…
It’s going to be really important that all of us push back against Russian propaganda, Russian disinformation, and continue our steadfast and unequivocal support for Ukraine.”
>… What does Russian propaganda have to do with Trudeau honoring a Nazi in Canadian Parliament? [????]

Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 25 2023 22:24 utc | 183

Trudeau blames Russians for Canadian parliament praising nazis
https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1706391596869226981

Justin Trudeau blames Russian propaganda for Canadian Parliament honoring a Nazi.
“Obviously, it’s extremely upsetting that this happened… this is something that is deeply embarrassing to the Parliament of Canada…
It’s going to be really important that all of us push back against Russian propaganda, Russian disinformation, and continue our steadfast and unequivocal support for Ukraine.”
>… What does Russian propaganda have to do with Trudeau honoring a Nazi in Canadian Parliament? [????]

Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 25 2023 22:24 utc | 184

Posted by: Soothsayer | Sep 25 2023 17:26 utc | 12 “according to the Goryushko telegram channel”
Are these different numbers than Mediazona?

Posted by: ed5 | Sep 25 2023 22:39 utc | 185

Posted by: Soothsayer | Sep 25 2023 17:26 utc | 12 “according to the Goryushko telegram channel”
Are these different numbers than Mediazona?

Posted by: ed5 | Sep 25 2023 22:39 utc | 186

10 year Bonds dropped from 141 to 108, a 23% drop in 2 years.
So who is going to keep purchasing U.S. Government Debt without ever increasing interest rates, which, in turn, reduce the value of all previous U.S. Government Debt held by others?
Posted by: kupkee | Sep 25 2023 21:29 utc | 79
“ever increasing interest rates”
US 10 yr up 10 points again today to $4.53%. It’s like a brush fire. Interest payments on US Federal debt are getting close to exceeding their horrendous ‘Defense’ budget some many posit.
Then there are the poor buggers who believed the low interest scheme would continue forever. They are now victims.
Here’s an article that explains why average folk shouldn’t worry including Yellen’s take;
” The trajectory of US debt interest payments is not sustainable, Maya MacGuineas told Insider.
Interest will eclipse defense spending in four years, the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget president said.
By 2051, interest payments will be the single largest federal expenditure, topping Social Security.
US debt this past week hit an all-time high of $33 trillion amid a ballooning federal deficit and a massive wave of Treasury bills.
To be sure, rising debt in itself is not automatically cause for concern, as it’s uncommon for nations to completely pay down large balances. Instead, a more meaningful gauge may be the ability to keep up with debt-service payments.
Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen told CNBC on Monday the metric she looks at most often to judge US fiscal health is net interest as a share of GDP.
That ratio currently sits around 1%, but the Congressional Budget Office expects interest payments to make up 6.7% of GDP by 2053. By that measure, US debt interest payments will become the single biggest federal expenditure by 2051, when it eclipses Social Security.”
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-debt-interest-payments-unsustainable-203001849.html
Probably conservative estimates. As the saying goes how did you go bankrupt? Slowly at first, then all of a sudden.
I don’t look forward to that, but like most plebeians I have no say and the world as we know it may well be dragged over the cliff in spite of the wishes of the majority.
See Germany’s ‘Green Party’ government minister for reference. Bit off topic perhaps, but worth highlighting. See Baerbock, had the audacity to state publicly that ‘she’ had made a promise to Ukraine and ‘she’ was going to keep her promise and DIDN’T CARE WHAT THE VOTERS IN GERMANY THINK.
Auchtung mein Oberfuhrer! As William Shatner would say, “Weird or what?”

Posted by: bubbles | Sep 25 2023 22:41 utc | 187

10 year Bonds dropped from 141 to 108, a 23% drop in 2 years.
So who is going to keep purchasing U.S. Government Debt without ever increasing interest rates, which, in turn, reduce the value of all previous U.S. Government Debt held by others?
Posted by: kupkee | Sep 25 2023 21:29 utc | 79
“ever increasing interest rates”
US 10 yr up 10 points again today to $4.53%. It’s like a brush fire. Interest payments on US Federal debt are getting close to exceeding their horrendous ‘Defense’ budget some many posit.
Then there are the poor buggers who believed the low interest scheme would continue forever. They are now victims.
Here’s an article that explains why average folk shouldn’t worry including Yellen’s take;
” The trajectory of US debt interest payments is not sustainable, Maya MacGuineas told Insider.
Interest will eclipse defense spending in four years, the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget president said.
By 2051, interest payments will be the single largest federal expenditure, topping Social Security.
US debt this past week hit an all-time high of $33 trillion amid a ballooning federal deficit and a massive wave of Treasury bills.
To be sure, rising debt in itself is not automatically cause for concern, as it’s uncommon for nations to completely pay down large balances. Instead, a more meaningful gauge may be the ability to keep up with debt-service payments.
Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen told CNBC on Monday the metric she looks at most often to judge US fiscal health is net interest as a share of GDP.
That ratio currently sits around 1%, but the Congressional Budget Office expects interest payments to make up 6.7% of GDP by 2053. By that measure, US debt interest payments will become the single biggest federal expenditure by 2051, when it eclipses Social Security.”
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-debt-interest-payments-unsustainable-203001849.html
Probably conservative estimates. As the saying goes how did you go bankrupt? Slowly at first, then all of a sudden.
I don’t look forward to that, but like most plebeians I have no say and the world as we know it may well be dragged over the cliff in spite of the wishes of the majority.
See Germany’s ‘Green Party’ government minister for reference. Bit off topic perhaps, but worth highlighting. See Baerbock, had the audacity to state publicly that ‘she’ had made a promise to Ukraine and ‘she’ was going to keep her promise and DIDN’T CARE WHAT THE VOTERS IN GERMANY THINK.
Auchtung mein Oberfuhrer! As William Shatner would say, “Weird or what?”

Posted by: bubbles | Sep 25 2023 22:41 utc | 188

First. Trudeau and his entourage met this old Nazi and wanted him in Parliament. The Speaker of the House is falling on his sword for Trudeau.
Second:
Armoured IFVs are pretty impressive. Here a German Marder 1A3 gets hit with an ATGM and it looks terminal for those inside – then you see 6 or 7 people legging it for safety from the rear door.
https://t.me/llordofwar/206998
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Sep 25 2023 21:33 utc | 83
Few understand, even those who have suffered the effects of an explosion, how the human body can function for several minutes, even 5 to 10 minutes, before the liquefaction of your organs stops your functions including your heart.

Posted by: kupkee | Sep 25 2023 22:41 utc | 189

First. Trudeau and his entourage met this old Nazi and wanted him in Parliament. The Speaker of the House is falling on his sword for Trudeau.
Second:
Armoured IFVs are pretty impressive. Here a German Marder 1A3 gets hit with an ATGM and it looks terminal for those inside – then you see 6 or 7 people legging it for safety from the rear door.
https://t.me/llordofwar/206998
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Sep 25 2023 21:33 utc | 83
Few understand, even those who have suffered the effects of an explosion, how the human body can function for several minutes, even 5 to 10 minutes, before the liquefaction of your organs stops your functions including your heart.

Posted by: kupkee | Sep 25 2023 22:41 utc | 190

Beside some of new/above comments based on ‘MIL facts’ repeatedly mentioned here to think about is “The HIMARS problem”:
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 25 2023 18:17 utc | 26

On the other hand, dealing with long range MLRS like Himars is hard because the searchable are is much larger behind the line.
Same applies of course to Tornado-S system (there are claims Tornado-S was used to hit a Mig-29 and ammo train recently).

Posted by: whirlX | Sep 25 2023 19:01 utc | 38

1. Global Hawk goes up to monitor Crimea
2. Ukies launch drone/missile attack to use up the Russian AA missiles
3. Coordinated attack on Crimea
… Yes, MilSu Dima might have some ideas on his own there, but in reality Global Hawk is just an add-on to Poseidon and Aries systems.
Those are also flying and are needed for scanning radar, ships, subs and EW coverage.
The issue is that GPS is jammed heavily in the South-western part of the Black Sea and along the Romanian coast, so those NATO ISR assets are flying relatively protected.
… The best action would be to publicly and militarily deny those assets altogether. There is a designated corridor where planes can fly, but NATO is coming way too close.

Posted by: JohninMK | Sep 25 2023 20:56 utc | 61

… The HIMARS is ballistic which is why the Russians are able to shoot so many down in areas where they have AD sited.
.., The Russians have almost failed to destroy any launcher due to them moving as soon as they have fired the missiles.
Whether that will change when more persistent Recon UAV are deployed in larger numbers remains to be see.
But with ATACMS probably coming there is an increased need as, like the Iskander, it has final stage maneuvering.

.. So, I give the following remark to that issues above :
HIMARS strikes may be ending due to missing ammunition rounds shipped by US/UK within next couple of weeks – but not because on lack of its HIMARS ammo Launchers.
HIMARS’s might be a ‘good thing’ nowadays to fight 1-HIMARS against ‘1-RF-Soldier’. But it’s a bit more: RF-Headquarters & RF ammo depots have also been stroken.
In addition, as also with several UK StormShadow missiles & the GE-Scholz (US-vasall puppet) will send some of German High-tech “Taurus” missiles (testing-proven where?) to the UKR. .. oh,oh ..
Today, RF still suffers somewhere heavily by those ‘new HIMARS strikes’ despite RF-Defense front lines & on the Crimea AD systems – believe – even they [RF] answer by some Iskanders sent into UKR middle land.
Summary of above mentioned:
“The Black Sea” is now the currently ongoing RF tactical needs to have to operate, as US/UK is.
To do ‘something’:
Why don’t declare a “War Zone” by RF just today (?) – such as a minimum at first over the Northern part over it – so means, that “The Black Sea” Lockdown is the only measure(s) that RF could do establishing its further security for the NEXT 3 YEARS (now today: pls. implementing shooting-down all unknown objects.

Posted by: spare_truth | Sep 25 2023 23:02 utc | 191

Beside some of new/above comments based on ‘MIL facts’ repeatedly mentioned here to think about is “The HIMARS problem”:
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 25 2023 18:17 utc | 26

On the other hand, dealing with long range MLRS like Himars is hard because the searchable are is much larger behind the line.
Same applies of course to Tornado-S system (there are claims Tornado-S was used to hit a Mig-29 and ammo train recently).

Posted by: whirlX | Sep 25 2023 19:01 utc | 38

1. Global Hawk goes up to monitor Crimea
2. Ukies launch drone/missile attack to use up the Russian AA missiles
3. Coordinated attack on Crimea
… Yes, MilSu Dima might have some ideas on his own there, but in reality Global Hawk is just an add-on to Poseidon and Aries systems.
Those are also flying and are needed for scanning radar, ships, subs and EW coverage.
The issue is that GPS is jammed heavily in the South-western part of the Black Sea and along the Romanian coast, so those NATO ISR assets are flying relatively protected.
… The best action would be to publicly and militarily deny those assets altogether. There is a designated corridor where planes can fly, but NATO is coming way too close.

Posted by: JohninMK | Sep 25 2023 20:56 utc | 61

… The HIMARS is ballistic which is why the Russians are able to shoot so many down in areas where they have AD sited.
.., The Russians have almost failed to destroy any launcher due to them moving as soon as they have fired the missiles.
Whether that will change when more persistent Recon UAV are deployed in larger numbers remains to be see.
But with ATACMS probably coming there is an increased need as, like the Iskander, it has final stage maneuvering.

.. So, I give the following remark to that issues above :
HIMARS strikes may be ending due to missing ammunition rounds shipped by US/UK within next couple of weeks – but not because on lack of its HIMARS ammo Launchers.
HIMARS’s might be a ‘good thing’ nowadays to fight 1-HIMARS against ‘1-RF-Soldier’. But it’s a bit more: RF-Headquarters & RF ammo depots have also been stroken.
In addition, as also with several UK StormShadow missiles & the GE-Scholz (US-vasall puppet) will send some of German High-tech “Taurus” missiles (testing-proven where?) to the UKR. .. oh,oh ..
Today, RF still suffers somewhere heavily by those ‘new HIMARS strikes’ despite RF-Defense front lines & on the Crimea AD systems – believe – even they [RF] answer by some Iskanders sent into UKR middle land.
Summary of above mentioned:
“The Black Sea” is now the currently ongoing RF tactical needs to have to operate, as US/UK is.
To do ‘something’:
Why don’t declare a “War Zone” by RF just today (?) – such as a minimum at first over the Northern part over it – so means, that “The Black Sea” Lockdown is the only measure(s) that RF could do establishing its further security for the NEXT 3 YEARS (now today: pls. implementing shooting-down all unknown objects.

Posted by: spare_truth | Sep 25 2023 23:02 utc | 192

Posted/translated from smoothiex12 blog. Pretty revealing what is going on if it’s half way close to the truth. RU army is maintaining good shape amidst the continuous attacks, they can go from tactical defensive to tactical offensive on the whim without external support. They took Dubovo-Vasylivka NNW of Artemovsk. Ukro/western economies deteriorating which leads to continuously reduced support for Ukro.

For example, I know the exact numbers of our losses in the last three to four weeks in my native First Slavic Brigade, but unfortunately, due to military censorship, I have no right to voice them. But again this can be done indirectly. Let me remind you that at the beginning of September, the positions of Slavyanka were attacked by fresh forces of very well-trained marines from the 36th brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces who were transferred here. For a week they tried to chew through our positions from different directions. As a result, having lost more than a company, the Ukrainians were forced to leave this direction. And our brigade went forward without any break and for the third week now has been gnawing off one enemy support after another. And all this on our own, without the support of other units except the regular ones. And he still does this to this day. And exactly the same thing is happening, for example, on the right side of the defense of Bakhmut, where in the Berkhovka area our troops unexpectedly went on the offensive yesterday and entered the very important village of Orekhovo-Vasilievka. Just like that, without concentrating resources and forces, without attracting additional units – just yesterday the unit was on the defensive, and today it suddenly went on the offensive. This just means that our army is in very good shape and, despite the constant attacks of the enemy, suffers such insignificant losses that they can easily move from defense to attack.
In other words, our troops have been demonstrating amazing stability for months now. And most importantly, our military has found a certain formula for conducting combat operations that allows us to destroy the enemy at a rate of 500 thousand people a year, while incurring minimal losses ourselves. And among other things, this formula contains two variables, a kind of progressive coefficients. The first of them is growing all the time – this is our growing industry, which is successfully and steadily increasing the production of ammunition and new equipment. The general state of our economy, which is feeling better and better, is also in this ratio. Significantly better than before the war. And the second coefficient is negative. It includes the systematic destruction of Ukrainian industry, including our ever-increasing attacks. And also the ever-decreasing support for ukrov by Western countries, and the generally deteriorating economy of both Ukraine and the West.
Applying these two coefficients, we obviously get a forecast according to which – if Ukraine continues, losses will steadily increase, and ours will at least remain at the same level, but in the future they should become even lower. And here all that remains is to wait until the enemy’s losses become so high that they simply will no longer be able to resist.
The conclusion from all this is very simple – if we take only the situation on the battlefield, then we actually have nowhere to rush. But of course politics still remains – and it can dictate its own logic of events. And here we can only hope for the wisdom of our country’s leadership. And once again thank God that such a magnificent strategist as Vladimir Putin is still at the helm of the state. With that, a big Amen to all of us.
All I can do is add that tomorrow there will be a big front-line report. Live on VK, and then in print on TG. As they say at the front, we don’t say goodbye, see you soon!
“>https://t.me/voenkorkhayrullin/1708

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 25 2023 23:18 utc | 193

Posted/translated from smoothiex12 blog. Pretty revealing what is going on if it’s half way close to the truth. RU army is maintaining good shape amidst the continuous attacks, they can go from tactical defensive to tactical offensive on the whim without external support. They took Dubovo-Vasylivka NNW of Artemovsk. Ukro/western economies deteriorating which leads to continuously reduced support for Ukro.

For example, I know the exact numbers of our losses in the last three to four weeks in my native First Slavic Brigade, but unfortunately, due to military censorship, I have no right to voice them. But again this can be done indirectly. Let me remind you that at the beginning of September, the positions of Slavyanka were attacked by fresh forces of very well-trained marines from the 36th brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces who were transferred here. For a week they tried to chew through our positions from different directions. As a result, having lost more than a company, the Ukrainians were forced to leave this direction. And our brigade went forward without any break and for the third week now has been gnawing off one enemy support after another. And all this on our own, without the support of other units except the regular ones. And he still does this to this day. And exactly the same thing is happening, for example, on the right side of the defense of Bakhmut, where in the Berkhovka area our troops unexpectedly went on the offensive yesterday and entered the very important village of Orekhovo-Vasilievka. Just like that, without concentrating resources and forces, without attracting additional units – just yesterday the unit was on the defensive, and today it suddenly went on the offensive. This just means that our army is in very good shape and, despite the constant attacks of the enemy, suffers such insignificant losses that they can easily move from defense to attack.
In other words, our troops have been demonstrating amazing stability for months now. And most importantly, our military has found a certain formula for conducting combat operations that allows us to destroy the enemy at a rate of 500 thousand people a year, while incurring minimal losses ourselves. And among other things, this formula contains two variables, a kind of progressive coefficients. The first of them is growing all the time – this is our growing industry, which is successfully and steadily increasing the production of ammunition and new equipment. The general state of our economy, which is feeling better and better, is also in this ratio. Significantly better than before the war. And the second coefficient is negative. It includes the systematic destruction of Ukrainian industry, including our ever-increasing attacks. And also the ever-decreasing support for ukrov by Western countries, and the generally deteriorating economy of both Ukraine and the West.
Applying these two coefficients, we obviously get a forecast according to which – if Ukraine continues, losses will steadily increase, and ours will at least remain at the same level, but in the future they should become even lower. And here all that remains is to wait until the enemy’s losses become so high that they simply will no longer be able to resist.
The conclusion from all this is very simple – if we take only the situation on the battlefield, then we actually have nowhere to rush. But of course politics still remains – and it can dictate its own logic of events. And here we can only hope for the wisdom of our country’s leadership. And once again thank God that such a magnificent strategist as Vladimir Putin is still at the helm of the state. With that, a big Amen to all of us.
All I can do is add that tomorrow there will be a big front-line report. Live on VK, and then in print on TG. As they say at the front, we don’t say goodbye, see you soon!
“>https://t.me/voenkorkhayrullin/1708

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 25 2023 23:18 utc | 194

I read this, and all I could think was it’s the equivalent of a street scam shell game, with pickpockets at the ready:

The United States has signed a $2 billion direct loan agreement to support Poland’s defense modernization program, the State Department said on Monday.
The foreign military financing deal advances the two countries’ defense cooperation as Poland seeks to boost its armed forces following Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.
“In addition to its central support role in facilitating international assistance to neighboring Ukraine, Poland has demonstrated its ironclad commitment to strengthening regional security through its robust investments in defense spending,” the State Department said in a statement on Monday.
Poland is a top US ally and has topped NATO’s spending charts this year.
The military alliance has forecast Poland pouring 3.9% of gross domestic product into military goals, almost twice NATO’s current 2% target.
The U.S. will provide $60 million for the cost of the $2 billion loan, which will be used to help pay for Poland’s defense modernization program with weapons purchases from the U.S., the State Department said.

https://t.me/DDGeopolitics

Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 25 2023 23:21 utc | 195

I read this, and all I could think was it’s the equivalent of a street scam shell game, with pickpockets at the ready:

The United States has signed a $2 billion direct loan agreement to support Poland’s defense modernization program, the State Department said on Monday.
The foreign military financing deal advances the two countries’ defense cooperation as Poland seeks to boost its armed forces following Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.
“In addition to its central support role in facilitating international assistance to neighboring Ukraine, Poland has demonstrated its ironclad commitment to strengthening regional security through its robust investments in defense spending,” the State Department said in a statement on Monday.
Poland is a top US ally and has topped NATO’s spending charts this year.
The military alliance has forecast Poland pouring 3.9% of gross domestic product into military goals, almost twice NATO’s current 2% target.
The U.S. will provide $60 million for the cost of the $2 billion loan, which will be used to help pay for Poland’s defense modernization program with weapons purchases from the U.S., the State Department said.

https://t.me/DDGeopolitics

Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 25 2023 23:21 utc | 196

Matt Taibi has an interesting piece:
Justin Trudeau’s Nazi Hot Take Flexibility
He reminds is of Trudeau’s expressed disgust of Nazi symbols “…A year and a half ago, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau denounced a Jewish member of parliament named Melissa Lantsman for standing with “people who wave swastikas.” Lantsman had criticized Trudeau for fanning “the flames of an unjustified national emergency” in response to the “Freedom Convoy” trucker protests. The “swastikas” Trudeau referenced were, as even Snopes conceded, virtually all “pictured on signs as a way of mocking and protesting government restrictions,…”
Then Matt wonders if nobody knew that the old veteran was a Nazi they hadn’t read his blogs omn which he leaves no doubt:
https://komb-a-ingwar.blogspot.com/2011/03/blog-post_21.html?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
“… In July 1941, the German army occupied Berezhany We greeted the German soldiers with joy. Narid felt a thaw, knowing that there would be no more of that dreaded knocking on the door in the middle of the night, and at least it would be possible to sleep peacefully now.
“After entering Berezhan, the Germans occupied the new gymnasium under the administrative building, and our classes were moved to the old traditional place – the second floor of the town hall.
“The new “liberator” of the Ukrainian people – Führer Hitler – reigned over the Berezhansk land. Portraits of Hitler in a long overcoat with a raised collar covering his menacing face with small, as if artificially attached whiskers under his sharp nose, and with the inscription “Hitler-liberator” hung in each classes The Führer immediately revealed his plans for Ukraine, liquidating the provisional Ukrainian government in Lviv and imprisoning Ukrainian leaders in concentration camps..”.
Happy Days!

Posted by: bevin | Sep 25 2023 23:21 utc | 197

Matt Taibi has an interesting piece:
Justin Trudeau’s Nazi Hot Take Flexibility
He reminds is of Trudeau’s expressed disgust of Nazi symbols “…A year and a half ago, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau denounced a Jewish member of parliament named Melissa Lantsman for standing with “people who wave swastikas.” Lantsman had criticized Trudeau for fanning “the flames of an unjustified national emergency” in response to the “Freedom Convoy” trucker protests. The “swastikas” Trudeau referenced were, as even Snopes conceded, virtually all “pictured on signs as a way of mocking and protesting government restrictions,…”
Then Matt wonders if nobody knew that the old veteran was a Nazi they hadn’t read his blogs omn which he leaves no doubt:
https://komb-a-ingwar.blogspot.com/2011/03/blog-post_21.html?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
“… In July 1941, the German army occupied Berezhany We greeted the German soldiers with joy. Narid felt a thaw, knowing that there would be no more of that dreaded knocking on the door in the middle of the night, and at least it would be possible to sleep peacefully now.
“After entering Berezhan, the Germans occupied the new gymnasium under the administrative building, and our classes were moved to the old traditional place – the second floor of the town hall.
“The new “liberator” of the Ukrainian people – Führer Hitler – reigned over the Berezhansk land. Portraits of Hitler in a long overcoat with a raised collar covering his menacing face with small, as if artificially attached whiskers under his sharp nose, and with the inscription “Hitler-liberator” hung in each classes The Führer immediately revealed his plans for Ukraine, liquidating the provisional Ukrainian government in Lviv and imprisoning Ukrainian leaders in concentration camps..”.
Happy Days!

Posted by: bevin | Sep 25 2023 23:21 utc | 198

I suppose this is a marginal note to this post, but I am starting to be very uneasy about the account of Ukrainian deaths and the uneven ratio with the Russian casualties. But Russians are dying too! Somehow, this is not newsworthy? I just wish this war ended, but it is not looking good!

Posted by: Lubica | Sep 25 2023 23:45 utc | 199

I suppose this is a marginal note to this post, but I am starting to be very uneasy about the account of Ukrainian deaths and the uneven ratio with the Russian casualties. But Russians are dying too! Somehow, this is not newsworthy? I just wish this war ended, but it is not looking good!

Posted by: Lubica | Sep 25 2023 23:45 utc | 200