Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 25 2023 16:24 utc | 249
Right but do you think the idea of a good CIA is credible at all? How about Norway spearheading the Nordstream attack and not US imperialism?
Thousands of reporters report what Biden tells them uncritically. Should we listen or take them seriously? “They are just being reporters” is just a fatally complacent attitude in these times, especially.
Sy could be used, consciously or not, by US intelligence. These two bait and switch articles show a pattern. First time an error, second time a tendency.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 25 2023 16:59 utc | 503

I recall he did something similar on Nordstream. He admits the obvious that it wasn’t Russia that blew up its own pipeline. Draws you in and then I think he concluded it was actually Norway, or some other running dog of the US that won’t breathe without permission, that did it.
Sy is spooky imo. Read him with a grain of salt.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 25 2023 15:53 utc | 245
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Gee Ahenobarus, I remember a completely different version of Sy’s Nordstream pipelines article. Sy put the blame completely on Joe Biden and the US. Did Norway help? Who the fuck knows, but all the countries around the Baltic Sea must have known something was up, the Baltic Sea is not that big or deep. We know that they supported NS attack, including the German leadership, because they refuse to expose the US role in this terrorist act against the people of Germany.

Posted by: Ed | Sep 25 2023 17:15 utc | 505

@Ed | Sep 25 2023 17:15 utc | 255

Gee Ahenobarus, I remember a completely different version of Sy’s Nordstream pipelines article. Sy put the blame completely on Joe Biden and the US. Did Norway help? Who the fuck knows, but all the countries around the Baltic Sea must have known something was up, the Baltic Sea is not that big or deep. We know that they supported NS attack, including the German leadership, because they refuse to expose the US role in this terrorist act against the people of Germany.

FYI, Norway is not on the Baltic Sea.

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 25 2023 17:22 utc | 507

Norwegian@256
It might as well be: there is no barrier between southern Norway’s sea coast and the skaggerak entrance to the Baltic.
Hersh’s story is still the most convincing- Norway’s role was auxilliary.

Posted by: bevin | Sep 25 2023 17:36 utc | 509

Nicolai Lilin is an Italian indy journalist on youtube, he was born and partially raised in Transnistria (PMR). He reports that today a S200 hit a farmhouse in the PMR, warhead didn’t explode, no one died, they have the missile’s parts and ID. It could only have come from two places, Ukraine probably fired as AA over Odessa and went off course – or from Moldova. If the later than this would be the start of a Chisinau and NATO’s attack on Transnistria. Lilin describes how the war in the early ’90s started in the same way, errant missiles denied or unexplained by Chisinau to force a reaction by PMR, which it did and lead to the war there. Donbas was exactly the same.
My guess is the attacks on Crimea and moves in Armenia, Moldavia, maybe Georgia were supposed to follow on the tail of a successful march to Melitopol. That having failed NATO is going ahead with the rest anyway.
So, Moldavia is worth keeping an eye next couple of weeks.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 25 2023 17:53 utc | 511

Posted by: malenkov | Sep 25 2023 16:33 utc | 250
Haha, excellent, thank you! Oh, and interesting article, just disgusting behavior…

Posted by: Zet | Sep 25 2023 17:58 utc | 513

@bevin | Sep 25 2023 17:36 utc | 257

Hersh’s story is still the most convincing- Norway’s role was auxilliary.

On questions of criminal acts, it is not about who is “most convincing”, but what verifiable evidence exists.
Don’t get me wrong, if it can be proven that Norwegian military/intelligence/politicians were involved in NS2, I will be the first to demand severe punishment. But it must be based on evidence.

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 25 2023 18:07 utc | 515

There are interesting reactions to the incident on the House of Commons in Ottawa.
As the video makes very clear the standing ovation involved all the MPs- not to mention a Gallery full of highranking military officers, their uniforms dripping with medals and decorations earned in campaigns such as those in Kossovo, Libya and Afghanistan.
Now everyone is pretending innocence.
In effect they are saying that they didn’t know that the forces involved in Operation Barbarossa, invading Russia, were directed by Hitler.
The truth is that all knew perfectly well what applauding the SS meant. Freeland has been doing it all her life. And so have many of the rest of them.
What they didn’t count on was an unmediated response from the public. An honest howl of disgust from the people who they despise so much that they long ago stopped asking them their opinions.
There really is no limit to the cynicism and dishonesty of these politicians.
Does anyone imagine that they don’t know thsat Russian POWs are tortured as a matter of state policy? That all Opposition in Ukraine is not just banned but leads to detention without trial, disappearances, torture and murder. And that one word from Ottawa which pays the torturers, car bombers and killers would suffice to change things?
They may disavow the 98 year old man but they fawn on the memory of the leaders, like Bandera, who led the poor old idiot astray in his teens. And they sponsor a whole generation of Ukrainian fascists who are following, exactly, in the footsteps of the Waffen SS before them. All of whom are nominally in the employ of Zelensky.

Posted by: bevin | Sep 25 2023 18:11 utc | 517

Norwegian | Sep 25 2023 18:07 utc | 260
I agree with you completely. I would add that any Norwegian involvement would have had to be at the behest of Washington. I doubt that even Stoltenberg is informed in advance of such actions.
Still, you are right Hersh is not a court of law and we should not pretend to be executioners.

Posted by: bevin | Sep 25 2023 18:14 utc | 519

FYI, Norway is not on the Baltic Sea.
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 25 2023 17:22 utc | 256
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Thank you Norwegian, I guess you would know.

Posted by: Ed | Sep 25 2023 18:30 utc | 521

RE: “They are just being reporters” is just a fatally complacent attitude in these times, especially.”
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 25 2023 16:59 utc | 254
I agree, but it’s all we got. When you think about an operation likes this, this was no “covert” really quick, “hey go plant an IED under that truck” terrorist thing.
Think about the Navy divers, how many were there? Every one involved with the explosives, from sales to execution, the number of politicians and their aides, in at least 4 countries, the list goes on. And yet we have ZERO anywhere, anyone, in a year now willing to come forth.
This is why nothing changes. No matter how much “sense” the “story” makes, or how good the source or reporter is…
It’ll remain a “story”, a “theory” “a tin foil hat idea”, completely ineffective for acting on, let alone “investigating” seriously.
Sy doesn’t want to give up the “source”… fine… it remains a “story” then and everyone can believe what they want.
That’s the bottom line for the CIA players. If there is a CIA “source”… he wants the “story” out… not the prosecution to follow… otherwise, he’d step up.
It’s worthless at this time, other than in the “minds” of those that believe it. Because believing it or not, changes nothing.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 25 2023 18:53 utc | 523

On questions of criminal acts, it is not about who is “most convincing”, but what verifiable evidence exists.
Don’t get me wrong, if it can be proven that Norwegian military/intelligence/politicians were involved in NS2, I will be the first to demand severe punishment. But it must be based on evidence.
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 25 2023 18:07 utc | 260
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I prefer to take Biden at his word when he incriminates himself by saying that he was going to do it, standing right next to Olaf Scholz.
What kind of proof do you expect anyway, we still don’t have the critical CIA documents related to the CIA assassination of President JFK. Only a fool would expect a criminal government to provide the evidence of their crimes, and I haven’t heard anything the Republicans about an investigation on the NS PL terrorism plot. And guess what, we never will: Why, because they know who did it, and they support it. Now, Hunter Biden and Joe’s schemes to extort money from a Ukrainian oil company, they are right on top of that one, as they should be.

Posted by: Ed | Sep 25 2023 19:02 utc | 525

Re: Ed @ 265 & Norwegian @260
Agree with both of you. I understand that on this anniversary, China will press again for the “investigation results”… but, another JFK buried plot, along with 100s others since it looks like.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 25 2023 19:13 utc | 527

@ LightYearsFromHome, §258:
Moldova isn´t in NATO, so not protected by Art. 5.
And even if it was in NATO, starting firing on Transdnistria wouldn´t trigger Art 5 either.
The Washington stooges who´ve usurped power in Moldova (as usual, a Karen called Maia Sandu – Harvard & World Bank) pursue a revanchist programme against Transdnistria, including murdering their political leaders.
Moldova is a loose cannon controlled by American vassals – very dangerous and a likely flashpoint for more trouble.

Posted by: John Marks | Sep 25 2023 19:19 utc | 529

Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 25 2023 18:53 utc | 264
Well, I don’t feel as hopeless as you do on the topic. There are many reliable journalists emerging. You can tell if one is reliable by reading the articles and asking Cui Bono. In Sy’s case, the answer for me is he’s increasingly appearing less that reliable and a possible asset of US imperialism. His tendency to bait with some truth then switch to a narrative helpful to imperialism is particularly suspicious.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 25 2023 20:27 utc | 531

Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 25 2023 9:47 utc | 193
How about someone who’s worked with people from these ‘socialist paradises’ who actually know what life was like first hand, better certainly than a politically motivated academic. It might also help if you dispensed with the pejoratives, as it weakens any case you make, or are you indulging in the insufferable leftist tradition of claiming the intellectual high ground so you can lecture to the peons below. You do realise such behaviour tends to signal deep insecurities and really gets up the noses of the actual working class who are often, in my experience, far more inarticulately eloquent and knowledgeable than their self-appointed saviours.
Posted by: Lantern Dude | Sep 25 2023 10:09 utc | 196
Curses, you’ve rumbled me, I’ll have to slink back under my bridge and wait for some more unsuspecting billy-goats to come trip-trap-Trotskying along.
‘I had thought ‘a fantasist’ with claimed knowledge of secret service intel and friends/acquaintances’
Care to give an example of any ‘secret-service intel’, and sorry for having some friends and acquaintances who are involved in various periphery dealings with the events at hand. I’ll try to cultivate more middle-management, boring, self-obsessed wankers, if you feel left out.
Posted by: Nobody | Sep 25 2023 9:58 utc | 194
Seven Days to the Rhine, two weeks to the Channel might be a bit of an eye-opener then, as would the writings of Mr Karabanov. Given the monumental insecurities of the Soviet Union were manifested in a national ‘striving for superiority’ why do you think the subject of nuclear war would escape this reaction.
Posted by: bevin | Sep 25 2023 14:49 utc | 239
Operation Phoenix, highly effective at playing the Communist’s own game, which falls foul of demarcation rites issues with Leftists, I know. So Communism hasn’t killed millions, or hasn’t killed millions who didn’t deserved to die, or had to kill millions to save the population from the evil capitalists, which one is it according to your approved historiography? DT and DM, tsk, tsk, that hurts, that does, and to think we used to have a subscription to the New Statesmen, in the good ol’ days.
Posted by: Brautigan | Sep 25 2023 11:37 utc | 207
Critique? I have to write a critique? I thought this was meant to be a virtual bar, not a common room for the PPE faculty in a second-rate university, or a SWP night of doctrinally approved fun.
Posted by: JessDTruth | Sep 25 2023 14:37 utc | 236
I just remember the farcical attempt at tarting up the buildings and infrastructure close to the wall, quite pathetic and quite sad really, like a person fallen on hard times wearing their ‘best’ clothes to a social gathering, fooling no one including themselves. I’m curious why you did not subject the DDR media material to the same critical scrutiny as you did their Western counterparts, once the scales had fallen from your eyes, did it ever occur to you that they might be lying to?

Posted by: Milites | Sep 25 2023 21:46 utc | 533

Ahenobarbus @ 268

In Sy’s case, the answer for me is he’s increasingly appearing less that reliable and a possible asset of US imperialism. His tendency to bait with some truth then switch to a narrative helpful to imperialism is particularly suspicious.

Hersh is yet to go full Alfred McCoy on us.
I’ve always taken him with a grain of salt but at this late stage I think Hersh is righteous enough in an old cold war way where the discourse was broad enough to allow you to criticize the system and while still supporting it, the democracy was seemingly real enough to fight for it. In that era, for example Vietnam, he could forcibly attack USA policy while never coming out in support of Vietnam. Seems quaint today in the decadent rule of The Empire of Chaos.
Hersh still tries attack state excess but not be made an enemy of the state. Seeing how over the last 20ys everyone of any integrity in journalism or academia has been purged maybe he knows better. Granted he’s already relegated to substack, might as well go out guns blazing like Butch & Sundance rather than pulling your punches. Reminds me very much of Sanders who didn’t want to wind up like Nader, he should be so lucky, Nader will have a respectful page in history, Bernie will be forgotten.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 25 2023 22:27 utc | 535

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 25 2023 5:23 utc | 174
It is a mistake to make a distinction between the US Reps and Dems as “far-right” and “cetner-right” respectively. Both parties are extreme neoliberal rightist, both espouse neocolonialism, messianic chauvinism, pre-1929 liberal capitalism on steroids, extreme authoritarianism and virtue-signalling through cahmpionship of culture wars.
Currently, the quintessential “liberals” are the Dems and their aisle on the culture wars has the main support from the oligarchy. The need for fake progressive credentials is of paramount importance for the intensely reactionary globalist regime, whose policies are reeking of inhuman criminality. But one should not get bamboozled by identity politics.
I should further point out that there is nothing remotely centrist about the DNC. That might have been the case decades ago when it stood for Keynasian capitalism. No more. Since Bill Clinton, it is peerfectly aligned with the imperial establishment, differentiating itself from the RNC only in cultural mores. If anything, it is more dangerous, especially if one takes into acccount that it is the Liberals that have castrated the left and turned it into a gender-fluid political parody due to the propaganda onslaught promoting pseudo-progressive credentials through identity politics.

Posted by: Constantine | Sep 25 2023 22:54 utc | 537

Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 25 2023 16:42 utc | 252

Where are the American Vets if WW2 groups?? Where are the Vets Groups? Where are the Council of Churches groups? Where is the Pink AntiWar Coalition?

Yes. That is an overlooked point. The silence shouts. If I have time, I’ll do a headline search for who is bashing Trudeau et al.
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The obvious is the obvious… America is Zio Nazi now.
“Jewish Israel” is a fraud. UK was and always has been Nazis disguised as Colonists, and the Pope is anti Christian.

Never heard the term “Jewish Israel” before. Its not clear exactly are you calling a fraud. And I think calling 18th century colonialists Nazis is anachronistic and amounts to nothing more than name calling.
Of course the Brits were rampant racists, but always pretending to rescue the heathens for Christ. They were going to raise them up to be good Christians, they claimed. A few dotty missionairies and anti-slavers actually believed that. The Nazis came right out and said we are going to exterminate these inferiors. Big difference.
The pope? He’s been called the whore of Babylon since Martin Luther’s day.

Posted by: john brewster | Sep 25 2023 23:33 utc | 539

Posted by: Milites | Sep 25 2023 21:46 utc | 269
It wouldn’t matter whether you met people from countries run by socialist parties or not. You’ve made up your mind through your pre-conceived notions and indoctrination.
You are the one who talked about submissive, socialist sheep. Would these include the patriotic right-wingers who believed the Gulf of Tonkin baloney, backed the war in Indochina (“Vietnam”) or the commies would show up in the States, supported the kickstaring of the jihadist movement in Afghanistan, devoured with relish the bovime excrement about baby incunbators, ditto for genocide in Yugoslavia, esponsibility of the Taliban and then Saddam for 9/11 along with WMD etc?
As for WWII, sure, you deliberately leave out that the German nationalists had selected Russia for colonial expansion with the appropriate racialist theories to back it from 1916 onwards, to include Hitler’s openly stated goals in Mein Kampf. And yet, we are supposed to believe that the Fuhrer who was raving about the USSR throughout the 30s and aimed for war already in December 1940, unleashed the Barbarossa out of self-defense.
As if the harrowing experiences of Russia since 1914 were not enough, you suggest that the Soviets were the ones acting out of unreasonable paranoia and aggressive goals. Is that why Churchill and not Stalin came up with Operation Unthinkable in 1945?
As for the failures of the eastern bloc, numerous as they might have been, they would definitely not be match for the disaster of the 90s onwards. But we can all rest assured that your ilk can find some pitiful explanation that the horrors of the neoliberal shock doctrine can be attributed to the dastardly commies.

Posted by: Constantine | Sep 26 2023 0:08 utc | 541

Milites@269
Seek help. Surely Brigade 77 has a Medical Officer.

Posted by: bevin | Sep 26 2023 1:29 utc | 543

U.S. Army hospital in Germany is treating Americans hurt fighting in Ukraine
NYTimes
Sep. 24, 2023
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/u-s-army-hospital-in-germany-is-treating-americans-hurt-fighting-in-ukraine/
excerpt
The fighters who were interviewed said Ukraine’s hospitals were under tremendous strain, and medical care in their Soviet-era wards could be spotty. Wound care was spartan, and sanitation and antibiotics were below U.S. standards, they said; surgery was at times reserved for only the most serious cases.
“I was evacuated in a wheelbarrow,” the Air Force veteran recalled. “I woke up during surgery because I didn’t get enough anesthesia.” He sighed, then added, “The Ukrainians, they do the best they can, but there are so many wounded.”
Some of his wounds had been open for two weeks when he arrived at Landstuhl, he said. Surgeons quickly operated to remove rusty metal fragments left by a grenade. While he was being interviewed, a member of the Landstuhl staff stopped in to ask how his pain was, and offered him graham crackers.
“Man, we are so thankful” to be at the hospital, said another American veteran, who was hit by shrapnel in his legs, arm and neck. He, too, asked not to be named. “I was wounded in Ukraine three weeks before they told me it would be a month before I got surgery. In Germany, they did it in two days.”

Posted by: toby | Sep 26 2023 2:26 utc | 545

Only a small minded American equates Socialism with Communism/Nazism. Or think that “Left” and “Right” refers to the Dems or Reps.
These have very different meanings elsewhere and at different times.
Even the Greens now in most countries, are not what they had started out as.
It’s this kind of bullshit “academic” discussions that’s just so lame.

Posted by: Suresh | Sep 26 2023 3:33 utc | 547

Posted by: Suresh | Sep 26 2023 3:33 utc | 276
“Only a small minded American equates Socialism with Communism/Nazism. Or think that “Left” and “Right” refers to the Dems or Reps.”
Oh sure, only Americans can do something so stupid like that. Germans and Canadians and Brits and Aussies are so much smarter.

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 26 2023 3:50 utc | 549

Please do fuck off with your “isms”.

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 26 2023 3:53 utc | 551

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 26 2023 3:53 utc | 278
No, you fuck off!
US irrational fear of “ism” is what killed millions of civilians in Korea, Vietnam and Indonesia.

Posted by: Suresh | Sep 26 2023 4:17 utc | 553

FYI, this is really O/T but there are certain individual/groups in the SCCC vein that needs to be put in place.
There are currently 3 states in democratic India, West Bengal, Tripura and Kerala that have communist state governments.
The Communist Party of India (Marxist) also has elected members in 8 other state legislative assemblies.
The Communist Party of India (Maoist) is a banned terror organization. Ponder on that if you are really interested in nuances or stay simple minded like most “Anglo/American” (Russian version).

Posted by: Suresh | Sep 26 2023 6:44 utc | 555

Russia has not been able to win offensively. And now it seems to be losing in its defensive war.
I can no longer believe that Russia is restraining itself. It appears Russia is incapable of defeating NATO (Ukraine). Surprising.
At this rate, the real warfront is Crimea and other Russian cities. The fight for the newly proclaimed Russian republics is purely a distraction.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/25/world/europe/ukraine-russia-black-sea-fleet.html?campaign_id=2&emc=edit_th_20230925&instance_id=103671&nl=todaysheadlines&regi_id=148726&segment_id=145714&user_id=e23ad32c11deb0d9220dd151762c1152

Posted by: Visitor | Sep 26 2023 8:15 utc | 557

“Man, we are so thankful” to be at the hospital, said another American veteran, who was hit by shrapnel in his legs, arm and neck. He, too, asked not to be named. “I was wounded in Ukraine three weeks before they told me it would be a month before I got surgery.
Posted by: toby | Sep 26 2023 2:26 utc | 275

He is fortunate not to have been a involuntary organ donor

Posted by: Exile | Sep 26 2023 9:23 utc | 559

Re: Socialism ?
After 30 years since the collapse of the Socialist States in Central Europe, one can state with confidence that the socialist systems they had were much better for the average person.
BTW – the system that replaced those socialist economies is not even remotely capitalist.
Signed a full blown an-cap capitalist.

Posted by: Exile | Sep 26 2023 9:30 utc | 561

Exile @ 282

He is fortunate not to have been a involuntary organ donor

Or, had he been captured by the Russians he wouldn’t have spent two weeks with his wounds rotting.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 26 2023 9:31 utc | 563

bevin @ 274
Ouch!

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 26 2023 9:33 utc | 565

Exile @ 283
BTW – the system that replaced those socialist economies is not even remotely capitalist.

It’s capitalism alright, right at its birth at the end of the medieval era, simultaneously with colonialism, it was its purest expression as War Capitalism, then saner minds tempered it to perpetuate it, it broke free again with fascism, again saner minds tempered it with regimented capitalism of the post Great Depression, post war era but it relentlessly strives to attain its pure nature, and here we are again with it breaking free, wanton, fierce, amok and laying waste. It even has theorists, dark High Priests, the Ayn Rand crowd that exalt the pure state, the demonic madness. Ever see the anime Akira? It’s that engulfing cancer beast thing.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 26 2023 11:08 utc | 567

I can no longer believe

Believe it or not, noone cares what you believe. You are determined to find sources of information that agree with the lies that you have internalized.
You will find plenty of sources ready to reassure you all is well, Russia is using shovels with no officers, washing machine chips, retreating, and is losing losing losing. That’s the mantra from Western media. WMD, yo! DUBYA EHHHM DEEEEE! REEEEEEEE!
At some point you might start to realize those who you have trusted as sources of information have been deliberately and completely corrupted. That is, you are being lied to on an industrial scale.
Or you can carry on as you were. As I said it’s irrelevant unfortunately.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Sep 26 2023 14:14 utc | 569

bevin@261…..the only thing Parliament missed giving him was the Zundle Award.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Sep 27 2023 3:46 utc | 571

Sy is spooky imo. Read him with a grain of salt.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 25 2023 15:53 utc | 246
You don’t have to misrepresent what Hersh wrote. He wrote the US did it with the help of Norwegians.

Posted by: RB | Sep 27 2023 7:12 utc | 573

“No, you fuck off!”
“US irrational fear of “ism” is what killed millions of civilians in Korea, Vietnam and Indonesia.”
Posted by: Suresh | Sep 26 2023 4:17 utc | 279
No, YOU fuck off! Or not. You do seem sincere and that’s ok. Sorry for being so belligerent and using swear words.
I think the “isms” are less important than the financial systems. Smedley Butler nailed it here imo, a little over 100 years ago. Well worth the read (for me anyway).
https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 28 2023 5:09 utc | 575

Nagorno-Karabakh:
Claimed revelation of Gravity Waves:
Strangely enough, I remember that day, SEPT 14, 2015, extremely well. I was doing laundry and experienced the most extraordinary sensation. As I recall, it was the most peaceful, most calming, most absence of sensation I have had.
I lived then in Menominee, MI, a bit above the US shipyard building site on Lake Michigan. They were developing Mag-Lev cannons for use on coastal ships. To be able to induce this massive calm would allow an enemy to proceed unhindered without infrastructure destruction. Sound familiar—–as in disarming Nagorno Karabakh?
The Age of Sound and Light Weaponry is here.

Posted by: katesisco | Sep 28 2023 15:55 utc | 577

You don’t have to misrepresent what Hersh wrote. He wrote the US did it with the help of Norwegians.
Posted by: RB | Sep 27 2023 7:12 utc | 289
New Polish gas pipeline from Norway to reach full capacity ahead of schedule
SEP 26, 2022
https://notesfrompoland.com/2022/09/26/new-polish-gas-pipeline-from-norway-to-reach-full-capacity-ahead-of-schedule/
…will be able to transport up to twice as much gas as previously planned this year due to the faster-than-expected progress of work.
The Baltic Pipe, which is seen as a key element in Poland’s diversification away from Russian energy sources…

Posted by: osi | Sep 28 2023 19:09 utc | 579

Do you want to see everything insane and wrong and extremely frightening about the US western sphere? It’s summed up in this one 1hr video with elites made a couple of weeks ago – Over 500 leading politicians, diplomats, businessmen, civil activists and experts from more than 20 countries took part in the conference .

What Does This War Mean for the Future of Mankind and Today’s Civilization?
Victor Pinchuk Foundation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu9BWMFFqNc
Speeches:
1:37 Timothy Snyder, Yale University professor and specialist in the history of Eastern Europe
11:32 Francis Fukuyama, Stanford University Senior Fellow
17:58 Yaroslav Hrytsak, Doctor of Historical Sciences, Professor, Ukrainian Catholic University
25:26 Comfort Ero, CEO, President, International Crisis Group.

Timothy Snyder’s mindless take is horrific. That man is clinically insane.
eg Francis Fukuyama transcript:

there’s no way that the United States could help defend Taiwan if Japan doesn’t cooperate and so that is leading to a shift in Japan’s basically pacifist post-war foreign policy that is as dramatic as the zeiten Venda in German in fact probably more because they’re going to more than the Germans but we’ll see about that,
and then the final thing is the United States so as I’m sure everybody in this room is aware there’s been this really weird transformation of the far right in the United States you know when Mitt Romney was a republican candidate he was roundly criticized for saying that Russia was the number one strategic competitor of the United States and we’ve gone from that to a Republican party half of which is actually on Russia’s side rather than Ukraine’s side and I actually think that what Putin did has clarified things for people on the right because ideologically you know I think Tim Synder was absolutely right there is no ideology there – I mean they’ve been making up stuff you know “Sovereign democracy” and blah blah blah
but what really crystallized that kind of right-wing support in the United United States is just the idea of a strong man right they want a leader that doesn’t have to listen to judges to courts to the press to his own bureaucracy they want somebody like Putin

YES I’d love someone like Putin as the leader in my country …. but the problem is I already KNOW for sure that Putin DOES LISTEN to and VALUE and abides by typical Govt realities such as “listening to judges, to courts, to the press, to his own bureaucracy … and to the DUMA and THE PEOPLE of the NATION” … very much UNLIKE these assholes in the west who think they fucking already know it all.
These people truly are idiots. You should hear the crap that Tim Synder believes the Russians and Putin think – the man is delusional, psychotic. Nothing else fits imo. Makes me scream out loud some days. 🙂
The Intellectual Yet Idiot — which is something someone shared here recently that I really appreciate. https://medium.com/incerto/the-intellectual-yet-idiot-13211e2d0577

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 30 2023 6:01 utc | 581

Tim Snyder:
“Vladimir Putin is one example of this, he is possibly the richest person in the world.”

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 30 2023 6:06 utc | 583

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 26 2023 3:53 utc | 278
No, you fuck off!
US irrational fear of “ism” is what killed millions of civilians in Korea, Vietnam and Indonesia.
Posted by: Suresh | Sep 26 2023 4:17 utc | 279

Actually both of you can fuck off – I have blocked you both. I suspect everyone else ignores you too by now. Goodbye.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 30 2023 6:16 utc | 585

His tendency to bait with some truth then switch to a narrative helpful to imperialism is particularly suspicious.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 25 2023 20:27 utc | 268

Good catch!
I know I’m suspicious of what he writes now. And I doubt his original pipelines story as well, but have no way of testing his claims, or knowing which parts are right and which parts are bullshit distractions.
Though I would say it this way- “His tendency to bait with some ‘apparent truth’ or ‘fact’ supposedly provided by some supposedly ‘credible but anonymous source’ only to then switch to a full-blown fact-free narrative supportive of the grandiose US Imperialism model is particularly suspicious.”

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 30 2023 6:23 utc | 587

re Nader …. Bernie will be forgotten.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 25 2023 22:27 utc | 270

Who?
(smile)

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 30 2023 6:28 utc | 589

I have blocked you both. I suspect everyone else ignores you too by now. Goodbye.
Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 30 2023 6:16 utc | 295
I don’t believe you. Anyway, sad if it is true. Childish.

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 30 2023 6:32 utc | 591

What Does This War Mean for the Future of Mankind and Today’s Civilization?
@55 mins https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu9BWMFFqNc
Francis Fukuyama’s patent ignorance of reality talks western propagandized lunacy:

I actually do think that there is a a conflict of ideas that’s
going on in the world right now of which the Ukraine Wars the premier example.
It’s true that Russia doesn’t have a big idea uh that’s driving it the way you
know the Soviet Union did with Marxism Leninism but it is the case that there
is a narrative out there that was being pushed by both Russia and China that
you know the Chinese say this very overtly they say the West is in terminal
decline it’s a degenerate civilization it doesn’t have the capacity to defend
itself Putin gave that famous ft interview back in 2017/19 a few years ago saying
that Western liberalism was dead and uh quite frankly you know there are a lot
of young people in the United States that say something very similar, and say
you know you old liberals you know you had your time we got to get Beyond it we
got to get to some different kind of um uh civilization and I think that’s kind
of the glue that holds so I I agree completely with Comfort this idea of the
Global South is it it just doesn’t exist I mean it’s kind of hilarious
If you read the commentary on this BRICs Summit you know um so the week after
the BRICs Summit Xi Jinping refuses to come to the G20 Summit because he doesn’t
want to give India you know too much Prestige right – so and they’ve got border
disputes and right so there isn’t a coherent idea
the only thing that’s coherent among this very diverse group of actors both
some domestic in the west and a lot of internationalists they don’t like Western
liberal democracy — and they’ve got this you know this feeling of resentment
that the West was you know they were colonial they were oppressive
and so forth and I think that that’s really the challenge that is in front of this
generation is to restore a belief a positive belief as opposed to this negative
you know Russian let’s make everything you know tear everything down

These people are utterly ignorant, stupid, insane and outright evil to the very core.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 30 2023 7:22 utc | 593