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September 24, 2023
Ukraine Open Thread 2023-225

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Posted by: bubbles | Sep 24 2023 16:02 utc | 33
“Trudeau’s profession before stepping into the afterglow of his father’s political career was drama teacher at a high school. ”
To be precise, Justin had to leave his drama teaching job because he had sex with one of the students aged 16-the girl’s family got paid off.
I didn’t like Pierre Trudeau’s politics but he, unlike his myopic son, was quite clever, a bit independent- he didn’t always take orders from the US-ie Canada kept relations with Cuba against US wishes inter alia.

Posted by: canuck | Sep 25 2023 10:54 utc | 401

Posted by: bubbles | Sep 24 2023 16:02 utc | 33
“Trudeau’s profession before stepping into the afterglow of his father’s political career was drama teacher at a high school. ”
To be precise, Justin had to leave his drama teaching job because he had sex with one of the students aged 16-the girl’s family got paid off.
I didn’t like Pierre Trudeau’s politics but he, unlike his myopic son, was quite clever, a bit independent- he didn’t always take orders from the US-ie Canada kept relations with Cuba against US wishes inter alia.

Posted by: canuck | Sep 25 2023 10:54 utc | 402

Russia is indeed de-nazifying Ukraine. The nazi’s being the collective West.
A nazi veteran got a standing ovation in the Canadian parliament on Friday, 22th of September.
Applaus für Soldat der SS-Division Galizien bei Selenskys Kanada-Reise
Standing ovation for 14e division Waffen SS veteran
The nazi in question is Jaroslav Gunka who fought with the Waffen-SS Galicia division responsible for the murder of millions of people. Zelensky, himself a jew, Trudeau and the whole Canadian parliament gave a standing ovation to the nazi veteran who fled to Canada after the Soviets drove them out.
Canada is one of the major supplier of weapons to the current Ukrainian nazi regime.
Ursula Von der Leyen declaring that it wasn’t her US overlord that dropped 2 atomic bombs on Japan but instead Russia.
https://t.me/ZandVchannel/79997
Jeremy Corbyn was vilified for being an anti-Semite spun out of thin air and which is he is most definitely not and at the same time we have nazi’s who even committed actual genocide that get applauded by Western officials or should I say nazi’s.
We have entered a new era.

Posted by: xor | Sep 25 2023 10:57 utc | 403

Russia is indeed de-nazifying Ukraine. The nazi’s being the collective West.
A nazi veteran got a standing ovation in the Canadian parliament on Friday, 22th of September.
Applaus für Soldat der SS-Division Galizien bei Selenskys Kanada-Reise
Standing ovation for 14e division Waffen SS veteran
The nazi in question is Jaroslav Gunka who fought with the Waffen-SS Galicia division responsible for the murder of millions of people. Zelensky, himself a jew, Trudeau and the whole Canadian parliament gave a standing ovation to the nazi veteran who fled to Canada after the Soviets drove them out.
Canada is one of the major supplier of weapons to the current Ukrainian nazi regime.
Ursula Von der Leyen declaring that it wasn’t her US overlord that dropped 2 atomic bombs on Japan but instead Russia.
https://t.me/ZandVchannel/79997
Jeremy Corbyn was vilified for being an anti-Semite spun out of thin air and which is he is most definitely not and at the same time we have nazi’s who even committed actual genocide that get applauded by Western officials or should I say nazi’s.
We have entered a new era.

Posted by: xor | Sep 25 2023 10:57 utc | 404

@ Patience, §105:
As it is, the Russians gained Manchuria, Korea, Karafuto and the Kuril Islands.
Quite some booty for a week of war.

Posted by: John Marks | Sep 25 2023 11:34 utc | 405

@ Patience, §105:
As it is, the Russians gained Manchuria, Korea, Karafuto and the Kuril Islands.
Quite some booty for a week of war.

Posted by: John Marks | Sep 25 2023 11:34 utc | 406

Posted by: xor | Sep 25 2023 10:57 utc | 203
The fanatics realized their mistake…
https://apnews.com/article/canada-parliament-apology-ukraine-nazi-eedc22e1d810011c412953168a4cee46

Posted by: notlurking | Sep 25 2023 11:37 utc | 407

Posted by: xor | Sep 25 2023 10:57 utc | 203
The fanatics realized their mistake…
https://apnews.com/article/canada-parliament-apology-ukraine-nazi-eedc22e1d810011c412953168a4cee46

Posted by: notlurking | Sep 25 2023 11:37 utc | 408

Two modified Swedish versions of the Leopard 2 (STRV-122) damaged near Svatove.

❗️🇸🇪🇺🇦Sweden has confirmed the loss to the AFU of German Leopard 2A5 tanks (https://t.me/infodefENGLAND/12605) in the Swedish modification Strv 122, which were supplied by Sweden to Ukraine.
A total of 10 such vehicles were delivered.
The tanks belonged to the 21st AFU Ombre and were hit by Russian Lancet kamikaze UAVs west of Svatovo near Stelmakhovka.
“>https://t.me/infodefENGLAND/12636

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 25 2023 11:37 utc | 409

I have yet to see Milites offer a single piece of actual substantive critique, ever. He can’t even honestly quote the statements he chews out his generic, AI like retorts for.
It’s always a supreme irony that the most fervent anticommunists are completely at ease appearing stupid in public, since it’s not actually winning any argument that’s the goal of public confrontation for these types.
Like any cultists their goals are not convincing anyone with basic critical faculties. What matters is only arrative dissemination and-even more importantly-attracting more mentally defective people, the kind that genuinely have a hard time telling right from wrong and good from bad, to the anticommunist movement.

Posted by: Brautigan | Sep 25 2023 11:37 utc | 410

Two modified Swedish versions of the Leopard 2 (STRV-122) damaged near Svatove.

❗️🇸🇪🇺🇦Sweden has confirmed the loss to the AFU of German Leopard 2A5 tanks (https://t.me/infodefENGLAND/12605) in the Swedish modification Strv 122, which were supplied by Sweden to Ukraine.
A total of 10 such vehicles were delivered.
The tanks belonged to the 21st AFU Ombre and were hit by Russian Lancet kamikaze UAVs west of Svatovo near Stelmakhovka.
“>https://t.me/infodefENGLAND/12636

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 25 2023 11:37 utc | 411

I have yet to see Milites offer a single piece of actual substantive critique, ever. He can’t even honestly quote the statements he chews out his generic, AI like retorts for.
It’s always a supreme irony that the most fervent anticommunists are completely at ease appearing stupid in public, since it’s not actually winning any argument that’s the goal of public confrontation for these types.
Like any cultists their goals are not convincing anyone with basic critical faculties. What matters is only arrative dissemination and-even more importantly-attracting more mentally defective people, the kind that genuinely have a hard time telling right from wrong and good from bad, to the anticommunist movement.

Posted by: Brautigan | Sep 25 2023 11:37 utc | 412

Multiple Western MSM outlets today are reporting on the SS celebrations in the Canadian Parliament, in honour of their Jewish ‘hero’ Zelensky:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66908958
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/canada-speaker-apologizes-ukraine-nazi-veteran-honored-rcna117125
https://www.reuters.com/world/canada-house-speaker-apologizes-recognition-veteran-who-fought-nazis-2023-09-24/
It is likely it wasn’t done by accident. Imho, it is part of a coordinated 5 Eyes campaign to smear Zelensky in preparation to replace him with someone willing to negotiate.
Look at the BBC picture as an example.
It shows Zelensky enthusiastically cheering, while Turdeau appears reluctant and almost showing indignation.
The neocons may be still going full steam ahead with their WW3 deluded fantasies, but it appears there are those maneuvering for a compromise of sorts, or at least for a policy that meets with reality. This would be consistent with Sy Hearsh’s article indicating a split in the intel community, since they would be the ones puling the media’s strings in this kind of perception management operation.

Posted by: Rubiconned | Sep 25 2023 11:40 utc | 413

Multiple Western MSM outlets today are reporting on the SS celebrations in the Canadian Parliament, in honour of their Jewish ‘hero’ Zelensky:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66908958
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/canada-speaker-apologizes-ukraine-nazi-veteran-honored-rcna117125
https://www.reuters.com/world/canada-house-speaker-apologizes-recognition-veteran-who-fought-nazis-2023-09-24/
It is likely it wasn’t done by accident. Imho, it is part of a coordinated 5 Eyes campaign to smear Zelensky in preparation to replace him with someone willing to negotiate.
Look at the BBC picture as an example.
It shows Zelensky enthusiastically cheering, while Turdeau appears reluctant and almost showing indignation.
The neocons may be still going full steam ahead with their WW3 deluded fantasies, but it appears there are those maneuvering for a compromise of sorts, or at least for a policy that meets with reality. This would be consistent with Sy Hearsh’s article indicating a split in the intel community, since they would be the ones puling the media’s strings in this kind of perception management operation.

Posted by: Rubiconned | Sep 25 2023 11:40 utc | 414

Pepe Escobar Reports on Ukie Morale…
https://strategic-culture.su/news/2023/09/19/the-ukrainian-morale-in-the-battlefield-a-snapshot/
It’s now firmly established that the Ukrainian counter-offensive turned out to be the feeder of a bloody meat grinder of astonishing proportions.
Of every 100 people who joined Ukrainian units last Fall, months before the counter-offensive, only 10 to 20 remain. The rest are dead, wounded or incapacitated. These stats were confirmed by the online publication Poltavashchyna.
It’s quite enlightening to check the following snapshot of the Ukrainian frontlines only five months ago, in Spring, slightly before the start of the counter-offensive. The data was leaked by Ukrainians. The authenticity of the documents has been fully confirmed.
This is a report prepared by the temporary acting commander of the 2nd mechanized battalion of military unit A4007, Captain Dmytro Bilyi. He is reporting directly to the commander of the military unit.
Bilyi says that between April 19 and 20, 2023, he as temporary acting commander as well as other officers have concluded that the 2nd battalion had reached critically low morale and psychological conditions.
The battalion had also suffered numerous sanitary and irretrievable losses. Most soldiers refused to perform combat missions. The level of morale in different companies was evaluated as ranging between 20% and 42%.

Enlightening….
YET…
Like the NAZIS of WWII…. They fight on… with boys… old men…. and now…. women…
Brainwashed, by NAZI idealogy….
Which must be….
ADDICTIVE!!
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 25 2023 11:48 utc | 415

Pepe Escobar Reports on Ukie Morale…
https://strategic-culture.su/news/2023/09/19/the-ukrainian-morale-in-the-battlefield-a-snapshot/
It’s now firmly established that the Ukrainian counter-offensive turned out to be the feeder of a bloody meat grinder of astonishing proportions.
Of every 100 people who joined Ukrainian units last Fall, months before the counter-offensive, only 10 to 20 remain. The rest are dead, wounded or incapacitated. These stats were confirmed by the online publication Poltavashchyna.
It’s quite enlightening to check the following snapshot of the Ukrainian frontlines only five months ago, in Spring, slightly before the start of the counter-offensive. The data was leaked by Ukrainians. The authenticity of the documents has been fully confirmed.
This is a report prepared by the temporary acting commander of the 2nd mechanized battalion of military unit A4007, Captain Dmytro Bilyi. He is reporting directly to the commander of the military unit.
Bilyi says that between April 19 and 20, 2023, he as temporary acting commander as well as other officers have concluded that the 2nd battalion had reached critically low morale and psychological conditions.
The battalion had also suffered numerous sanitary and irretrievable losses. Most soldiers refused to perform combat missions. The level of morale in different companies was evaluated as ranging between 20% and 42%.

Enlightening….
YET…
Like the NAZIS of WWII…. They fight on… with boys… old men…. and now…. women…
Brainwashed, by NAZI idealogy….
Which must be….
ADDICTIVE!!
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 25 2023 11:48 utc | 416

Rubiconned @ 208

It shows Zelensky enthusiastically cheering…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIdGgEhr1s8

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 25 2023 11:56 utc | 417

Rubiconned @ 208

It shows Zelensky enthusiastically cheering…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIdGgEhr1s8

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 25 2023 11:56 utc | 418

RE: Posted by: ed5 | Sep 24 2023 22:22 utc | 112
Nah, I’m suggesting they’ll start there offensive the 2-3rd week in October. I don’t know how long to capture them will take.
And thx for correction on UNSC Chair. I don’t know why I had that ingrained for some reason.
It’s simply that Ukraine is wearing down, and the NPP has got to get fully secured along with the outliers of Khearson.
Again, it’s only what I’d do. It’s just an opinion.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2023 22:32 utc | 115
I pray that Russian leadership is visited by the spirits of Konev, Zhukov, Rokossovsky, Vatutin Chuikov, Iossip Vissaronovich.
Attack in October mud I dont know…
Anyway a good read about the obliteration of the Galician SS division by Konev offensive in July 44.
https://warfarehistorynetwork.com/article/battle-of-brody-disaster-along-wwiis-eastern-front/

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Sep 25 2023 11:56 utc | 419

RE: Posted by: ed5 | Sep 24 2023 22:22 utc | 112
Nah, I’m suggesting they’ll start there offensive the 2-3rd week in October. I don’t know how long to capture them will take.
And thx for correction on UNSC Chair. I don’t know why I had that ingrained for some reason.
It’s simply that Ukraine is wearing down, and the NPP has got to get fully secured along with the outliers of Khearson.
Again, it’s only what I’d do. It’s just an opinion.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2023 22:32 utc | 115
I pray that Russian leadership is visited by the spirits of Konev, Zhukov, Rokossovsky, Vatutin Chuikov, Iossip Vissaronovich.
Attack in October mud I dont know…
Anyway a good read about the obliteration of the Galician SS division by Konev offensive in July 44.
https://warfarehistorynetwork.com/article/battle-of-brody-disaster-along-wwiis-eastern-front/

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Sep 25 2023 11:56 utc | 420

@ rk, §197:
What a waste of tungsten.

Posted by: John Marks | Sep 25 2023 12:00 utc | 421

@ rk, §197:
What a waste of tungsten.

Posted by: John Marks | Sep 25 2023 12:00 utc | 422

Can someone create a Canadian flag with a swastika instead of the maple leave? Then we can all send it it to all Canazian embassies on Twitter… would be sweet to get something like that trending on Twitter with the hashtag #CaNazis 🙂

Posted by: Zet | Sep 25 2023 12:20 utc | 423

Can someone create a Canadian flag with a swastika instead of the maple leave? Then we can all send it it to all Canazian embassies on Twitter… would be sweet to get something like that trending on Twitter with the hashtag #CaNazis 🙂

Posted by: Zet | Sep 25 2023 12:20 utc | 424

The democracy in England is, seeing from outside, a solid democracy, with huge tradition of serious debate.
Posted by: fanto | Sep 25 2023 2:09 utc | 160
Really? Like the debate about invading Iraq in 2003? Or the debate about ‘antisemitism’ of Corbin and how to destroy him. Democracy my ass.

Posted by: RB | Sep 25 2023 12:21 utc | 425

The democracy in England is, seeing from outside, a solid democracy, with huge tradition of serious debate.
Posted by: fanto | Sep 25 2023 2:09 utc | 160
Really? Like the debate about invading Iraq in 2003? Or the debate about ‘antisemitism’ of Corbin and how to destroy him. Democracy my ass.

Posted by: RB | Sep 25 2023 12:21 utc | 426

Leaf, not leave obviously. Damn autocorrect…

Posted by: Zet | Sep 25 2023 12:21 utc | 427

Leaf, not leave obviously. Damn autocorrect…

Posted by: Zet | Sep 25 2023 12:21 utc | 428

Margarita Simonyan, editor-in-chief of the Russian state television channel RT, the Rossiya Segodnya news agency, and the Sputnik news agency — after the attack on the Black Sea Fleet HQ: “The escalation will continue exponentially until we are forced to give them all an ultimatum that from now on we will treat them as participants in the conflict, that is, the military adversaries that they are….”
Simonyan has figured it out. And there are increasingly more Russians who have said essentially the same thing. “[Putin’s] critics are arguing that unless he draws a firm line soon, there will be no limits to what the United States might provide to Kyiv.” They’re right. Until Russia shows a willingness to retaliate, the escalations will continue, the weapons delivered will become more advanced, the provocations more serious. The US and UK will not stop until they’ve seriously damaged Russia.

Posted by: Kellen Cramer | Sep 25 2023 12:23 utc | 429

Margarita Simonyan, editor-in-chief of the Russian state television channel RT, the Rossiya Segodnya news agency, and the Sputnik news agency — after the attack on the Black Sea Fleet HQ: “The escalation will continue exponentially until we are forced to give them all an ultimatum that from now on we will treat them as participants in the conflict, that is, the military adversaries that they are….”
Simonyan has figured it out. And there are increasingly more Russians who have said essentially the same thing. “[Putin’s] critics are arguing that unless he draws a firm line soon, there will be no limits to what the United States might provide to Kyiv.” They’re right. Until Russia shows a willingness to retaliate, the escalations will continue, the weapons delivered will become more advanced, the provocations more serious. The US and UK will not stop until they’ve seriously damaged Russia.

Posted by: Kellen Cramer | Sep 25 2023 12:23 utc | 430

Simonyan has figured it out. And there are increasingly more Russians who have said essentially the same thing. “[Putin’s] critics are arguing that unless he draws a firm line soon, there will be no limits to what the United States might provide to Kyiv.” They’re right. Until Russia shows a willingness to retaliate, the escalations will continue, the weapons delivered will become more advanced, the provocations more serious. The US and UK will not stop until they’ve seriously damaged Russia.
Posted by: Kellen Cramer | Sep 25 2023 12:23 utc | 216
They have provided most if not all the most advanced weapons. Once they have provided long range missiles, probably they have already, and some airplanes next step will be? Nuclear?

Posted by: Mario | Sep 25 2023 12:34 utc | 431

Simonyan has figured it out. And there are increasingly more Russians who have said essentially the same thing. “[Putin’s] critics are arguing that unless he draws a firm line soon, there will be no limits to what the United States might provide to Kyiv.” They’re right. Until Russia shows a willingness to retaliate, the escalations will continue, the weapons delivered will become more advanced, the provocations more serious. The US and UK will not stop until they’ve seriously damaged Russia.
Posted by: Kellen Cramer | Sep 25 2023 12:23 utc | 216
They have provided most if not all the most advanced weapons. Once they have provided long range missiles, probably they have already, and some airplanes next step will be? Nuclear?

Posted by: Mario | Sep 25 2023 12:34 utc | 432

Uninterpretor @200
“Western officials have started calling it ‘a war of attrition.’ They have put huge amounts of money into militarizing the Kiev regime. Where has it gotten them? The simple facts are these: the West is experiencing weapons and ammunition shortages, people in Europe and the US have lost trust in politicians, and the Kiev regime’s counteroffensive has failed,” Volodin stated.“
I wondered at why Volodin chose this time and lengthily statement. Volodin is the 4th most powerful man in Russia.
He’s like our Speaker of the House… 4th in line to receive the Presidency.
I’ve come to the conclusion that this detailed appeal as to why the West should capitulate now, is because this is the turning point from “attrition” to aggressive offensive that will spare no infrastructure or command centers.
A willing capitulation, while an “intact” rump state exists, or virtually no “state” at all. Once their offensive begins in earnest, it will turn into an “offensive” attriting, not a “defensive” attrition. And they will leave nothing. No lights, no power, no trains, no airports (any airport that hosts a military plane). It may be done in measure, but it will be done.
They will switch to non-stop offense maneuvers (no I’m not saying “Big Arrow”) attrition.
But honestly, they got their answer, it was a last ditch effort, mostly for EU. Since the West knows it’s lost the War, the goal is to destroy everything Crimea b4 it entirely collapses. Take the bridge and all things Crimean and turn it to ash b4 the final collapse simply out of spite.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 25 2023 12:36 utc | 433

Uninterpretor @200
“Western officials have started calling it ‘a war of attrition.’ They have put huge amounts of money into militarizing the Kiev regime. Where has it gotten them? The simple facts are these: the West is experiencing weapons and ammunition shortages, people in Europe and the US have lost trust in politicians, and the Kiev regime’s counteroffensive has failed,” Volodin stated.“
I wondered at why Volodin chose this time and lengthily statement. Volodin is the 4th most powerful man in Russia.
He’s like our Speaker of the House… 4th in line to receive the Presidency.
I’ve come to the conclusion that this detailed appeal as to why the West should capitulate now, is because this is the turning point from “attrition” to aggressive offensive that will spare no infrastructure or command centers.
A willing capitulation, while an “intact” rump state exists, or virtually no “state” at all. Once their offensive begins in earnest, it will turn into an “offensive” attriting, not a “defensive” attrition. And they will leave nothing. No lights, no power, no trains, no airports (any airport that hosts a military plane). It may be done in measure, but it will be done.
They will switch to non-stop offense maneuvers (no I’m not saying “Big Arrow”) attrition.
But honestly, they got their answer, it was a last ditch effort, mostly for EU. Since the West knows it’s lost the War, the goal is to destroy everything Crimea b4 it entirely collapses. Take the bridge and all things Crimean and turn it to ash b4 the final collapse simply out of spite.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 25 2023 12:36 utc | 434

John Helmer opines on NATO’s sanctions war…
https://johnhelmer.net/diamonds-arent-forever-for-the-belgians-war-against-russia-instead/
Belgium has decided to host its second Battle of Waterloo in two hundred and eight years, this time on Napoleon’s side. But on this occasion it won’t be, as the Duke of Wellington claimed before, a “close run thing”.
In the last episode of the Napoleon-sized mistakes the US and NATO are making in their sanctions war against Russia, the battleground was at sea. There, the sanctions war has transformed the global movement of oil and gas tankers – the routes, ports, insurance, contracts, pricing, certification, and recording. The major commercial and state fleets have now split into two blocs, ending the unified global tanker market and returning to the conditions of secrecy, smuggling, and bypass port hubs last seen in Europe when Napoleon attempted to impose his blockade of British merchantmen in what was called the “Continental System” at the time. That was more than two hundred years ago, between 1806 and 1814.
France did not recover from the damage the over-confident Napoleon did to the French position in Europe’s seaborne trade. Napoleon multiplied the cost of his misjudgement by deciding that, in order to enforce his blockade, he should invade Spain, Portugal and Russia, and close their ports. Russia then buried Napoleon twice — once in Moscow in 1812, then in Paris in 1814, before he and the French army were finished off at Waterloo. This time round, the US-NATO blockade of the Russian tanker trade is Napoleonic in the obviousness of the miscalculation; it is also Napoleonic in the magnitude of losses on the NATO side — and the acceleration of profits on the Russian side.

You can’t make this stuff up!
Are they that stupid???
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 25 2023 12:50 utc | 435

John Helmer opines on NATO’s sanctions war…
https://johnhelmer.net/diamonds-arent-forever-for-the-belgians-war-against-russia-instead/
Belgium has decided to host its second Battle of Waterloo in two hundred and eight years, this time on Napoleon’s side. But on this occasion it won’t be, as the Duke of Wellington claimed before, a “close run thing”.
In the last episode of the Napoleon-sized mistakes the US and NATO are making in their sanctions war against Russia, the battleground was at sea. There, the sanctions war has transformed the global movement of oil and gas tankers – the routes, ports, insurance, contracts, pricing, certification, and recording. The major commercial and state fleets have now split into two blocs, ending the unified global tanker market and returning to the conditions of secrecy, smuggling, and bypass port hubs last seen in Europe when Napoleon attempted to impose his blockade of British merchantmen in what was called the “Continental System” at the time. That was more than two hundred years ago, between 1806 and 1814.
France did not recover from the damage the over-confident Napoleon did to the French position in Europe’s seaborne trade. Napoleon multiplied the cost of his misjudgement by deciding that, in order to enforce his blockade, he should invade Spain, Portugal and Russia, and close their ports. Russia then buried Napoleon twice — once in Moscow in 1812, then in Paris in 1814, before he and the French army were finished off at Waterloo. This time round, the US-NATO blockade of the Russian tanker trade is Napoleonic in the obviousness of the miscalculation; it is also Napoleonic in the magnitude of losses on the NATO side — and the acceleration of profits on the Russian side.

You can’t make this stuff up!
Are they that stupid???
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 25 2023 12:50 utc | 436

Speaking from a base of some knowledge of Canadian political party practices, I can say with high confidence there is now way the Liberal party member who holds the House of Commons Speakership who have gone off on his own initiative to insert the recognition of someone in the gallery on a day there is a high visibility official visitor. Such visits are intensely scripted and coordinated.
Furthermore, there is absolutely no way that several Ukraine-connected MPs would not know the provenance of the 1st Ukraine/14th Galician SS. Nationalist fanatics Chrystia Freeland and Yvan Baker are steeped in the ‘glorious’ history of these monsters.
Finally, will some low-brow MPs might not know about the Galician SS, there are a few whose roles would make it very negligent to be unaware. Foreign and Defense ministers purporting to participate in decision-making about the Ukraine conflict without any sense of the Nazi elements in Kiev would be in serious default of a basic standard of knowledge.
All that to say, this was not a simple error by one well-meaning ignoramous. At best it was a motivated blunder by a significant number of ignoramouses.

Posted by: Figleaf23 | Sep 25 2023 13:09 utc | 437

Speaking from a base of some knowledge of Canadian political party practices, I can say with high confidence there is now way the Liberal party member who holds the House of Commons Speakership who have gone off on his own initiative to insert the recognition of someone in the gallery on a day there is a high visibility official visitor. Such visits are intensely scripted and coordinated.
Furthermore, there is absolutely no way that several Ukraine-connected MPs would not know the provenance of the 1st Ukraine/14th Galician SS. Nationalist fanatics Chrystia Freeland and Yvan Baker are steeped in the ‘glorious’ history of these monsters.
Finally, will some low-brow MPs might not know about the Galician SS, there are a few whose roles would make it very negligent to be unaware. Foreign and Defense ministers purporting to participate in decision-making about the Ukraine conflict without any sense of the Nazi elements in Kiev would be in serious default of a basic standard of knowledge.
All that to say, this was not a simple error by one well-meaning ignoramous. At best it was a motivated blunder by a significant number of ignoramouses.

Posted by: Figleaf23 | Sep 25 2023 13:09 utc | 438

At best it was a motivated blunder by a significant number of ignoramouses.
Posted by: Figleaf23 | Sep 25 2023 13:09 utc | 220

And not a critical Jew amongst them?

Posted by: too scents | Sep 25 2023 13:16 utc | 439

At best it was a motivated blunder by a significant number of ignoramouses.
Posted by: Figleaf23 | Sep 25 2023 13:09 utc | 220

And not a critical Jew amongst them?

Posted by: too scents | Sep 25 2023 13:16 utc | 440

rk@197 ….not to worry, no children in Washington, London or Brussels will suffer from these…..hmm ….mere wee toys really. When the VerySloMo is over everyone will see NATO has Russia best interests at heart.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Sep 25 2023 13:18 utc | 441

rk@197 ….not to worry, no children in Washington, London or Brussels will suffer from these…..hmm ….mere wee toys really. When the VerySloMo is over everyone will see NATO has Russia best interests at heart.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Sep 25 2023 13:18 utc | 442

My girlfriend asked how they’d blame this on Russia. The answer? They’ll call it “malinformation.”
As in, information that is true but “serves malicious purposes”. Yes,  it is true that Liedeau honoured a genuine nazi war criminal in the Canazidastani parliament, but it’s Russia’s fault that people are getting to hear about it. 
Simple.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Sep 25 2023 13:20 utc | 443

My girlfriend asked how they’d blame this on Russia. The answer? They’ll call it “malinformation.”
As in, information that is true but “serves malicious purposes”. Yes,  it is true that Liedeau honoured a genuine nazi war criminal in the Canazidastani parliament, but it’s Russia’s fault that people are getting to hear about it. 
Simple.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Sep 25 2023 13:20 utc | 444

It is likely it wasn’t done by accident. Imho, it is part of a coordinated 5 Eyes campaign to smear Zelensky in preparation to replace him with someone willing to negotiate.

Respectfully disagree, Rubiconned. The egregious act, including the subsequent pro forma nopology (it is safe to assume nobody will suffer consequences), was meant to set a precedent. Open Nazism is now approved mainstream discourse in Canada: It has officially come out of the closet.

Posted by: malenkov | Sep 25 2023 13:26 utc | 445

It is likely it wasn’t done by accident. Imho, it is part of a coordinated 5 Eyes campaign to smear Zelensky in preparation to replace him with someone willing to negotiate.

Respectfully disagree, Rubiconned. The egregious act, including the subsequent pro forma nopology (it is safe to assume nobody will suffer consequences), was meant to set a precedent. Open Nazism is now approved mainstream discourse in Canada: It has officially come out of the closet.

Posted by: malenkov | Sep 25 2023 13:26 utc | 446

and the house speaker for canadian parliament has apologized.. you can read that on cbc.. better late then never..
Posted by: james | Sep 25 2023 4:03 utc | 169
Like turning the lights on in a room full of rats, they all run for cover.. To claim they (MPs) were unaware of the history of the Ukrainian cabal who fought in that division is either an admission they know diddlysquat about history or don’t give a hoot so long as they are seen to be rallying around the US / EU Ukraine project.
Apology not accepted.

Posted by: bubbles | Sep 25 2023 13:32 utc | 447

and the house speaker for canadian parliament has apologized.. you can read that on cbc.. better late then never..
Posted by: james | Sep 25 2023 4:03 utc | 169
Like turning the lights on in a room full of rats, they all run for cover.. To claim they (MPs) were unaware of the history of the Ukrainian cabal who fought in that division is either an admission they know diddlysquat about history or don’t give a hoot so long as they are seen to be rallying around the US / EU Ukraine project.
Apology not accepted.

Posted by: bubbles | Sep 25 2023 13:32 utc | 448

@malenkov 224
Of course it was deliberate and part of the campaign to normalise nazism. They just miscalculated and pushed a little too fast, too far.
This time.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Sep 25 2023 13:32 utc | 449

@malenkov 224
Of course it was deliberate and part of the campaign to normalise nazism. They just miscalculated and pushed a little too fast, too far.
This time.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Sep 25 2023 13:32 utc | 450

Posted by: Kellen Cramer | Sep 25 2023 12:23 utc | 216
Posted by: Mario | Sep 25 2023 12:34 utc | 217
Vladimir Solovyov, Anton Krasovsky, Sergey Strokan & Igor Shishkin have been saying pretty much the same things for a while.
“They have provided most if not all the most advanced weapons.” Generally they have provided earlier versions of the most advanced weapons.

Posted by: ed5 | Sep 25 2023 13:38 utc | 451

Posted by: Kellen Cramer | Sep 25 2023 12:23 utc | 216
Posted by: Mario | Sep 25 2023 12:34 utc | 217
Vladimir Solovyov, Anton Krasovsky, Sergey Strokan & Igor Shishkin have been saying pretty much the same things for a while.
“They have provided most if not all the most advanced weapons.” Generally they have provided earlier versions of the most advanced weapons.

Posted by: ed5 | Sep 25 2023 13:38 utc | 452

Vlads Western Partners MSM nonstop (every hour) announcing with joy the death of black fleet commander sokolov with 34 officers ……

Posted by: SlowSoft | Sep 25 2023 13:49 utc | 453

Vlads Western Partners MSM nonstop (every hour) announcing with joy the death of black fleet commander sokolov with 34 officers ……

Posted by: SlowSoft | Sep 25 2023 13:49 utc | 454

@ Biswapriya Purkayast | Sep 25 2023 13:32 utc | 226
Pushed a little too fast, too far? Devoutly to be hoped, but I seriously doubt it. Canada has long been ready, if not outright eager, for the embrace with Nazism.
Rather like her big brother to the south, of course.

Posted by: malenkov | Sep 25 2023 13:52 utc | 455

@ Biswapriya Purkayast | Sep 25 2023 13:32 utc | 226
Pushed a little too fast, too far? Devoutly to be hoped, but I seriously doubt it. Canada has long been ready, if not outright eager, for the embrace with Nazism.
Rather like her big brother to the south, of course.

Posted by: malenkov | Sep 25 2023 13:52 utc | 456

Generally they have provided earlier versions of the most advanced weapons.
Posted by: ed5 | Sep 25 2023 13:38 utc | 227
Maybe. Challenger 2 is, AFAIK, state of the art, Challenger 3 being in deployment by 2027, not shure what about leopard or Abrams or what is more advanced of the provided himars or scalp.

Posted by: Mario | Sep 25 2023 13:57 utc | 457

Generally they have provided earlier versions of the most advanced weapons.
Posted by: ed5 | Sep 25 2023 13:38 utc | 227
Maybe. Challenger 2 is, AFAIK, state of the art, Challenger 3 being in deployment by 2027, not shure what about leopard or Abrams or what is more advanced of the provided himars or scalp.

Posted by: Mario | Sep 25 2023 13:57 utc | 458

there will be no limits to what the United States might provide to Kyiv

Oh no! NO LIMIT, you say. What exactly is left in that cupboard?
There is no materiel Maerica or her running dogs can provide Ukraine that will change the course of the war. Full stop. Equipment sent will be fruitlessly wasted and become so much scrap metal. Maerica will only further humilate themselves and shrink the market for their overpriced weapons further. NATO can engage directly, NATO will still lose. Hopefully for everyone – but especially Maerica – they start letting the realists run the agenda soon.
The Russian doomers don’t understand any better than Maerican strategists. Putin has Maerica by the short and curlies. Escalation isn’t needed other than incremental. Why stop the enemy when they are hanging themselves?

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Sep 25 2023 14:09 utc | 459

there will be no limits to what the United States might provide to Kyiv

Oh no! NO LIMIT, you say. What exactly is left in that cupboard?
There is no materiel Maerica or her running dogs can provide Ukraine that will change the course of the war. Full stop. Equipment sent will be fruitlessly wasted and become so much scrap metal. Maerica will only further humilate themselves and shrink the market for their overpriced weapons further. NATO can engage directly, NATO will still lose. Hopefully for everyone – but especially Maerica – they start letting the realists run the agenda soon.
The Russian doomers don’t understand any better than Maerican strategists. Putin has Maerica by the short and curlies. Escalation isn’t needed other than incremental. Why stop the enemy when they are hanging themselves?

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Sep 25 2023 14:09 utc | 460

The Washington Post asking “who did it?” one year on.

Who blew up the Nord Stream pipelines?
What we know one year later.


Shortly after the attack, one expert likened the situation to an Agatha Christie mystery, in which all parties involved — namely Russia and Ukraine — appeared to have a motive or could have benefited from the outcome.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/09/25/russia-ukraine-war-news/

Post. Truth. Comedy.

Posted by: too scents | Sep 25 2023 14:17 utc | 461

The Washington Post asking “who did it?” one year on.

Who blew up the Nord Stream pipelines?
What we know one year later.


Shortly after the attack, one expert likened the situation to an Agatha Christie mystery, in which all parties involved — namely Russia and Ukraine — appeared to have a motive or could have benefited from the outcome.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/09/25/russia-ukraine-war-news/

Post. Truth. Comedy.

Posted by: too scents | Sep 25 2023 14:17 utc | 462

Did anyone post the Bill Kristol TV ad yet?
This is the script from Caitlin via Steel City Scribblings:
“When America arms Ukraine, we get a lot for a little. Putin is an enemy of America. We’ve used 5% of our defense budget to arm Ukraine, and with it, they’ve destroyed 50% of Putin’s Army. We’ve done all this by sending weapons from storage, not our troops. The more Ukraine weakens Russia, the more it also weakens Russia’s closest ally, China. America needs to stand strong against our enemies, that’s why Republicans in Congress must continue to support Ukraine.”
Bill Kristol, US media pundit and neo-con, staunch advocate of the war on Iraq

Posted by: bevin | Sep 25 2023 14:29 utc | 465

Did anyone post the Bill Kristol TV ad yet?
This is the script from Caitlin via Steel City Scribblings:
“When America arms Ukraine, we get a lot for a little. Putin is an enemy of America. We’ve used 5% of our defense budget to arm Ukraine, and with it, they’ve destroyed 50% of Putin’s Army. We’ve done all this by sending weapons from storage, not our troops. The more Ukraine weakens Russia, the more it also weakens Russia’s closest ally, China. America needs to stand strong against our enemies, that’s why Republicans in Congress must continue to support Ukraine.”
Bill Kristol, US media pundit and neo-con, staunch advocate of the war on Iraq

Posted by: bevin | Sep 25 2023 14:29 utc | 466

Hersch is onto something.
The war is over…
Russia has won….
Everybody in the whole world knows it except Zelensky, the City of London and the WH.
Now all the Russian govt and military needs to do is stop the fuggin destruction of Crimea assets and their fuel and airfield infrastructure!! With whatever means possible.
The cabal needs a serious black eye right now!!

Posted by: bisfugged | Sep 25 2023 14:37 utc | 467

Hersch is onto something.
The war is over…
Russia has won….
Everybody in the whole world knows it except Zelensky, the City of London and the WH.
Now all the Russian govt and military needs to do is stop the fuggin destruction of Crimea assets and their fuel and airfield infrastructure!! With whatever means possible.
The cabal needs a serious black eye right now!!

Posted by: bisfugged | Sep 25 2023 14:37 utc | 468

@ Milites 109
“I guess the Berlin Wall was also to protect East German citizens from the evils of higher-standards of living and personal freedom.”
Most stories have two sides, and the Berlin wall is one of them. (Inevitable pun.) I was just in my teens when it went up and of course I bought the Western narrative, just like you did. But my tour group paid a visit to East Berlin and on our way out, through Checkpoint Charlie, we walk through a hall lined with tables that had free propaganda booklets and brochures. Of course I scooped up a few – and read them. Being there in person was the only way I could learn the East German perspective and their reason for the Wall. It was my first time to realize the modern Western media doesn’t tell the real story.
So East German socialism provided high-quality education to anyone willing to make the effort. Since East Germany was technologically advanced, those degrees were valuable, and it was a large expense for East Germany’s economy. The scheme was for people in East Germany to get their education at the expense of the socialist system, and then to hop over to West Germany where they could earn several times more money. In other words, East Germany was suffering a brain drain and the wall (with men and guns) was their solution. And West Germany was a parasite on East Germany. Fact.
With 60 years of hindsight, I don’t see any other way East Germany could have stopped the brain drain, and obviously that brain drain was going to destroy that high-tech socialist economy. They could have softened it with humanitarian exits for people who didn’t owe the socialist society for a fancy education, but that’s about all East Germany could have / should have done differently.

Posted by: JessDTruth | Sep 25 2023 14:37 utc | 469

@ Milites 109
“I guess the Berlin Wall was also to protect East German citizens from the evils of higher-standards of living and personal freedom.”
Most stories have two sides, and the Berlin wall is one of them. (Inevitable pun.) I was just in my teens when it went up and of course I bought the Western narrative, just like you did. But my tour group paid a visit to East Berlin and on our way out, through Checkpoint Charlie, we walk through a hall lined with tables that had free propaganda booklets and brochures. Of course I scooped up a few – and read them. Being there in person was the only way I could learn the East German perspective and their reason for the Wall. It was my first time to realize the modern Western media doesn’t tell the real story.
So East German socialism provided high-quality education to anyone willing to make the effort. Since East Germany was technologically advanced, those degrees were valuable, and it was a large expense for East Germany’s economy. The scheme was for people in East Germany to get their education at the expense of the socialist system, and then to hop over to West Germany where they could earn several times more money. In other words, East Germany was suffering a brain drain and the wall (with men and guns) was their solution. And West Germany was a parasite on East Germany. Fact.
With 60 years of hindsight, I don’t see any other way East Germany could have stopped the brain drain, and obviously that brain drain was going to destroy that high-tech socialist economy. They could have softened it with humanitarian exits for people who didn’t owe the socialist society for a fancy education, but that’s about all East Germany could have / should have done differently.

Posted by: JessDTruth | Sep 25 2023 14:37 utc | 470

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Sep 25 2023 8:58 utc | 190

ghiwen | Sep 25 2023 8:21 utc | 185

“https://firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/map/#m:tsd;d:today;@33.4,47.9,12.0z –
there are/were fires about 7-10 km west of the airfield”

I think it highly unlikely that a US Government agency would provide accurate information
on the exact location of fires in Ukraine. Don’t you?

Do you think that the US cares about such trifles,
especially if commercial images should be available?
( as for the ammu depot in Khmelnytsky )
What should burn there (on the airfield)? its an old , decommissioned airfield
and before anyone says it can be reused: (of course it can )
BUT:
on the https://dataspace.copernicus.eu/browser ( stand 23.09.2023 ): there is no difference
on the satellite picture from the FIRMS picture or on https://satellites.pro
In addition, the fire markers extend over a large industrial area with a lot railroad connections.
lets wait for other sat-pictures

Posted by: ghiwen | Sep 25 2023 14:40 utc | 471

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Sep 25 2023 8:58 utc | 190

ghiwen | Sep 25 2023 8:21 utc | 185

“https://firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/map/#m:tsd;d:today;@33.4,47.9,12.0z –
there are/were fires about 7-10 km west of the airfield”

I think it highly unlikely that a US Government agency would provide accurate information
on the exact location of fires in Ukraine. Don’t you?

Do you think that the US cares about such trifles,
especially if commercial images should be available?
( as for the ammu depot in Khmelnytsky )
What should burn there (on the airfield)? its an old , decommissioned airfield
and before anyone says it can be reused: (of course it can )
BUT:
on the https://dataspace.copernicus.eu/browser ( stand 23.09.2023 ): there is no difference
on the satellite picture from the FIRMS picture or on https://satellites.pro
In addition, the fire markers extend over a large industrial area with a lot railroad connections.
lets wait for other sat-pictures

Posted by: ghiwen | Sep 25 2023 14:40 utc | 472

Salaam.So the Abrams tanks have been “handed over” to 404.They will be”delivered” to the scrap metal heap in due course.”Wonderwaffen”,eh
bigger targets are easier to spot and harder to miss on when in gunsights.

Posted by: 4q8 | Sep 25 2023 14:42 utc | 473

Salaam.So the Abrams tanks have been “handed over” to 404.They will be”delivered” to the scrap metal heap in due course.”Wonderwaffen”,eh
bigger targets are easier to spot and harder to miss on when in gunsights.

Posted by: 4q8 | Sep 25 2023 14:42 utc | 474

TomQ Collins
Milites doesn’t strike me as a Bircher but as a British fan of military tactics, which is the only area in which he appears to have anything approaching expertise.
On all else, including strategy, he is just echoing the Daily Telegraph or Mail- “Communism killed 120 million people” and other such drivel.
Thanks for your sane and balanced contributions- like you when I read the sort of stuff that Milites comes up with it is not his ignorance that strikes me but the fact that voices like his were part of every lynch mob that ever burned down a peasant hut in Guatemala. Its the sound of Operations Phoenix or Condor and its not pretty.

Posted by: bevin | Sep 25 2023 14:49 utc | 475

TomQ Collins
Milites doesn’t strike me as a Bircher but as a British fan of military tactics, which is the only area in which he appears to have anything approaching expertise.
On all else, including strategy, he is just echoing the Daily Telegraph or Mail- “Communism killed 120 million people” and other such drivel.
Thanks for your sane and balanced contributions- like you when I read the sort of stuff that Milites comes up with it is not his ignorance that strikes me but the fact that voices like his were part of every lynch mob that ever burned down a peasant hut in Guatemala. Its the sound of Operations Phoenix or Condor and its not pretty.

Posted by: bevin | Sep 25 2023 14:49 utc | 476

Posted by: John Marks | Sep 24 2023 13:24 utc | 1

Even their second-hand cars, beloved by the Russians because of their sturdiness and ability to work in Siberia´s freezing winters, are now forbidden by American sanctions – which hurt only Japan and benefit Chinese exports of much inferior (in reliability) cars to Siberia.

Untrue. Russia itself banned the importation of RHD vehicles on road safety grounds. It had nothing to do with US sanctions.

Posted by: Peter Williams | Sep 25 2023 14:50 utc | 477

Posted by: John Marks | Sep 24 2023 13:24 utc | 1

Even their second-hand cars, beloved by the Russians because of their sturdiness and ability to work in Siberia´s freezing winters, are now forbidden by American sanctions – which hurt only Japan and benefit Chinese exports of much inferior (in reliability) cars to Siberia.

Untrue. Russia itself banned the importation of RHD vehicles on road safety grounds. It had nothing to do with US sanctions.

Posted by: Peter Williams | Sep 25 2023 14:50 utc | 478

Another example of how consumer-grade technology can be adapted for military use.
https://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/articles/2022/5/17/pentagon-speeds-tactical-software-to-ukraine

TAMPA, Florida — A committee of software experts in the Defense Department cut through red tape to release software that is helping Ukraine fight off its Russian invaders.
The Android tactical assault kit is a version of a popular software application that was first developed by the Air Force Research Laboratory in 2010 and called the Android team awareness kit.
The geospatial software allows users to quickly set up a network and give commanders real-time situational awareness of a battlefield, said Col. Paul Weizer, program executive officer for Special Operations Forces digital applications.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_Team_Awareness_Kit

Android Team Awareness Kit (ATAK) is an Android smartphone geospatial infrastructure and military situation awareness app. It allows for precision targeting, surrounding land formation intelligence, situational awareness, navigation, and data sharing. …

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb2OBIw-1Oc

How to Use ATAK with Meshtastic

Posted by: anon2020 | Sep 25 2023 14:53 utc | 479

Another example of how consumer-grade technology can be adapted for military use.
https://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/articles/2022/5/17/pentagon-speeds-tactical-software-to-ukraine

TAMPA, Florida — A committee of software experts in the Defense Department cut through red tape to release software that is helping Ukraine fight off its Russian invaders.
The Android tactical assault kit is a version of a popular software application that was first developed by the Air Force Research Laboratory in 2010 and called the Android team awareness kit.
The geospatial software allows users to quickly set up a network and give commanders real-time situational awareness of a battlefield, said Col. Paul Weizer, program executive officer for Special Operations Forces digital applications.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_Team_Awareness_Kit

Android Team Awareness Kit (ATAK) is an Android smartphone geospatial infrastructure and military situation awareness app. It allows for precision targeting, surrounding land formation intelligence, situational awareness, navigation, and data sharing. …

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb2OBIw-1Oc

How to Use ATAK with Meshtastic

Posted by: anon2020 | Sep 25 2023 14:53 utc | 480

@ RB&14; snake&214; LoveDonbass&165; bisfugged&164
Thanks for your replies; I did not say that contemporary British RC are in the tradition of great democratic debate – I agree that Blair, Boris Johnson and some other elected officials did not rise to power in truly democratic debates;
But the tradition known from previous centuries seems indicate a national cohesion benefiting the British people on the whole, (this might have been distorted in the 19th century with the rise of industrial impoverished masses due to rampant capitalism, as publicized by Marx and Engels).
Interesting POV regarding the role of City of London (COL – as he says), I am not a scholar historian and am intrigued by such views – and would like to hear opinions of other bar flies such as bevin and English Outsider, who know history.

Posted by: fanto | Sep 25 2023 15:03 utc | 481

@ RB&14; snake&214; LoveDonbass&165; bisfugged&164
Thanks for your replies; I did not say that contemporary British RC are in the tradition of great democratic debate – I agree that Blair, Boris Johnson and some other elected officials did not rise to power in truly democratic debates;
But the tradition known from previous centuries seems indicate a national cohesion benefiting the British people on the whole, (this might have been distorted in the 19th century with the rise of industrial impoverished masses due to rampant capitalism, as publicized by Marx and Engels).
Interesting POV regarding the role of City of London (COL – as he says), I am not a scholar historian and am intrigued by such views – and would like to hear opinions of other bar flies such as bevin and English Outsider, who know history.

Posted by: fanto | Sep 25 2023 15:03 utc | 482

@ Peter Williams, §239:
Well, that´s recent Peter – or the locals ignore the ban/the ban is not enforced.
I was in Vladivostok a decade ago and a majority of the cars & wagons and almost all the taxis were RHD 2nd-hand Jap imports. I queried taxi-drivers about the risk of driving on the right with an RHD car but they were dismissive: “Yeh, would be better if they were LHD, but they´re cheap and reliable, so worth it” and words to that effect, oft-repeated.
My point is that there´d clearly be a market for LHD Jap cars but the Japs shoot themselves in the foot by obeying the American madness. Just like Europe: German & Austrian high-tech was much in demand in European Russia before the EU cravenly bowed to American demands.
There was also a significant demand in the Russian Far East for Jap high-speed rail technology, tunnel-building and shipbuilding, especially of ice-breakers, ferries, etc., etc. But Japan is sinking, like the rest of the infected West, into a “service economy” which isn´t sufficient to sustain any nation.

Posted by: John Marks | Sep 25 2023 15:26 utc | 483

@ Peter Williams, §239:
Well, that´s recent Peter – or the locals ignore the ban/the ban is not enforced.
I was in Vladivostok a decade ago and a majority of the cars & wagons and almost all the taxis were RHD 2nd-hand Jap imports. I queried taxi-drivers about the risk of driving on the right with an RHD car but they were dismissive: “Yeh, would be better if they were LHD, but they´re cheap and reliable, so worth it” and words to that effect, oft-repeated.
My point is that there´d clearly be a market for LHD Jap cars but the Japs shoot themselves in the foot by obeying the American madness. Just like Europe: German & Austrian high-tech was much in demand in European Russia before the EU cravenly bowed to American demands.
There was also a significant demand in the Russian Far East for Jap high-speed rail technology, tunnel-building and shipbuilding, especially of ice-breakers, ferries, etc., etc. But Japan is sinking, like the rest of the infected West, into a “service economy” which isn´t sufficient to sustain any nation.

Posted by: John Marks | Sep 25 2023 15:26 utc | 484

Posted by: Rubiconned | Sep 25 2023 11:40 utc | 208
I wanted to check the corporate media spin on the ovation for the Nazi. It seems the word “accidental” is the new “unprovoked”.
Bing
Canadian parliament apologises after accidentally honouring WWII …
Canadian parliament accidentally honours Nazi – with Zelensky and
Oops! Canadian Parliament Accidentally Gives Nazi Standing Ovation
—-
One headline nails the truth in five words:
Does Canada not have Google?! Blame game in Canada after their …
——————
Google
Canada’s parliament accidentally lauds Nazi
Canadian parliament apologises after accidentally
—-
To be fair those five were the only headlines that I could find, even scrolling down four or five results pages. I think the whole thing blew up too much, too fast to spin. But they were going to give it a try.

Posted by: john brewster | Sep 25 2023 15:47 utc | 485

Posted by: Rubiconned | Sep 25 2023 11:40 utc | 208
I wanted to check the corporate media spin on the ovation for the Nazi. It seems the word “accidental” is the new “unprovoked”.
Bing
Canadian parliament apologises after accidentally honouring WWII …
Canadian parliament accidentally honours Nazi – with Zelensky and
Oops! Canadian Parliament Accidentally Gives Nazi Standing Ovation
—-
One headline nails the truth in five words:
Does Canada not have Google?! Blame game in Canada after their …
——————
Google
Canada’s parliament accidentally lauds Nazi
Canadian parliament apologises after accidentally
—-
To be fair those five were the only headlines that I could find, even scrolling down four or five results pages. I think the whole thing blew up too much, too fast to spin. But they were going to give it a try.

Posted by: john brewster | Sep 25 2023 15:47 utc | 486

This would be consistent with Sy Hearsh’s article indicating a split in the intel community, since they would be the ones puling the media’s strings in this kind of perception management operation.
Posted by: Rubiconned | Sep 25 2023 11:40 utc | 208
The more I think about it the more I wonder about the point of old Sy’s last article. He admits Russia won this round, which is obvious to any sane person, but seems subversive in DC giving him some credibility with the bar and other critical thinkers.
Then, however, comes the bullshit to benefit US imperialism. The idea that the CIA or any wing of US imperialism is against the war on Russia or wants some reform is an absolute lie. It’s the same bad apple story after they got caught systematically torturing Iraqis. The deep state is really very anti war, but for those bad apples at the DIA. May ass!
I recall he did something similar on Nordstream. He admits the obvious that it wasn’t Russia that blew up its own pipeline. Draws you in and then I think he concluded it was actually Norway, or some other running dog of the US that won’t breathe without permission, that did it.
Sy is spooky imo. Read him with a grain of salt.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 25 2023 15:53 utc | 487

This would be consistent with Sy Hearsh’s article indicating a split in the intel community, since they would be the ones puling the media’s strings in this kind of perception management operation.
Posted by: Rubiconned | Sep 25 2023 11:40 utc | 208
The more I think about it the more I wonder about the point of old Sy’s last article. He admits Russia won this round, which is obvious to any sane person, but seems subversive in DC giving him some credibility with the bar and other critical thinkers.
Then, however, comes the bullshit to benefit US imperialism. The idea that the CIA or any wing of US imperialism is against the war on Russia or wants some reform is an absolute lie. It’s the same bad apple story after they got caught systematically torturing Iraqis. The deep state is really very anti war, but for those bad apples at the DIA. May ass!
I recall he did something similar on Nordstream. He admits the obvious that it wasn’t Russia that blew up its own pipeline. Draws you in and then I think he concluded it was actually Norway, or some other running dog of the US that won’t breathe without permission, that did it.
Sy is spooky imo. Read him with a grain of salt.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 25 2023 15:53 utc | 488

@Peter Williams #239:

Russia itself banned the importation of RHD vehicles on road safety grounds. It had nothing to do with US sanctions.

First of all, the ban was introduced not by Russia, but by the EAEU. Secondly, the ban is partial and does not extend to passenger cars.
The following vehicles were banned for import in all EAEU countries since July 1, 2020:

  • vehicles with more than eight seats (minibuses, minivans and other vehicles capable of carrying passengers),
  • special equipment (construction, etc.),
  • dump trucks,
  • trucks with small loader cranes,
  • refrigerator trucks,
  • M2 and M3 category buses.

Everything else, including passenger cars, is allowed.
The Japanese ban on export of second-hand passenger cars to Russia means that these cars will be exported via third countries, that’s all.

Posted by: S | Sep 25 2023 16:03 utc | 489

@Peter Williams #239:

Russia itself banned the importation of RHD vehicles on road safety grounds. It had nothing to do with US sanctions.

First of all, the ban was introduced not by Russia, but by the EAEU. Secondly, the ban is partial and does not extend to passenger cars.
The following vehicles were banned for import in all EAEU countries since July 1, 2020:

  • vehicles with more than eight seats (minibuses, minivans and other vehicles capable of carrying passengers),
  • special equipment (construction, etc.),
  • dump trucks,
  • trucks with small loader cranes,
  • refrigerator trucks,
  • M2 and M3 category buses.

Everything else, including passenger cars, is allowed.
The Japanese ban on export of second-hand passenger cars to Russia means that these cars will be exported via third countries, that’s all.

Posted by: S | Sep 25 2023 16:03 utc | 490

john brewster @ 244

I think the whole thing blew up too much, too fast to spin. But they were going to give it a try.

These retractions are an old newspaper trick, 70% of the public sees the original front page headline, 10% sees the apology or retraction published on page 37 three days later. The propagandists get their cake and to eat it too.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 25 2023 16:19 utc | 491

john brewster @ 244

I think the whole thing blew up too much, too fast to spin. But they were going to give it a try.

These retractions are an old newspaper trick, 70% of the public sees the original front page headline, 10% sees the apology or retraction published on page 37 three days later. The propagandists get their cake and to eat it too.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 25 2023 16:19 utc | 492

RE: Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 25 2023 15:53 utc | 245
I agree. But consider something else. Sy is a reporter/publisher. The “job” of a reporter is to report what is being told to them by a reliable source. If the source is a CIA agent working in Norway, he may have evidence that it was Norways final duty to initiate the blast protocol.
It doesn’t mean Norway had any decision in any other part of the terrorist attack, but that due to radius restrictions, maybe this was their part.
My only point is, reporters like even Assange, had conflicting reports regarding an event. The “sources” are why.
For myself, I take every reporter & every account with a grain of salt, even Sy’s, until there is actual available evidence to make a reasonable assumption. We’ve all had enough of “sources say”… fine bring out your source and show the evidence, enough BS.
All we really have at the moment were several years of US pressure on Germany to curb/halt their “dependence” on Russian oil, and a President “threatening” to end NS2.
And that’s it.
All the forensics, evidence & exact disposition even now of the pipelines are speculative & no one to day has submitted a review, even a generalized investigative report to the UN, Russia or any other interested party.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 25 2023 16:24 utc | 493

RE: Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 25 2023 15:53 utc | 245
I agree. But consider something else. Sy is a reporter/publisher. The “job” of a reporter is to report what is being told to them by a reliable source. If the source is a CIA agent working in Norway, he may have evidence that it was Norways final duty to initiate the blast protocol.
It doesn’t mean Norway had any decision in any other part of the terrorist attack, but that due to radius restrictions, maybe this was their part.
My only point is, reporters like even Assange, had conflicting reports regarding an event. The “sources” are why.
For myself, I take every reporter & every account with a grain of salt, even Sy’s, until there is actual available evidence to make a reasonable assumption. We’ve all had enough of “sources say”… fine bring out your source and show the evidence, enough BS.
All we really have at the moment were several years of US pressure on Germany to curb/halt their “dependence” on Russian oil, and a President “threatening” to end NS2.
And that’s it.
All the forensics, evidence & exact disposition even now of the pipelines are speculative & no one to day has submitted a review, even a generalized investigative report to the UN, Russia or any other interested party.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 25 2023 16:24 utc | 494

Zet @ 12:20 asks for a Canadian flag with a swastika instead of a maple leaf. Well, maybe one with a swastika inside the maple leafwill do? See https://constantinereport.com/how-nazi-war-criminals-got-into-canada/

Posted by: malenkov | Sep 25 2023 16:33 utc | 495

Zet @ 12:20 asks for a Canadian flag with a swastika instead of a maple leaf. Well, maybe one with a swastika inside the maple leafwill do? See https://constantinereport.com/how-nazi-war-criminals-got-into-canada/

Posted by: malenkov | Sep 25 2023 16:33 utc | 496

Anyone who thinks replacing trudeau the lesser and his gov’t would result in policy changes toward Ukraine and Russia should read this article from 2015.
“Canada’s Minister of Citizenship and Immigration Chris Alexander, speaking to a fundraising dinner in Toronto on February 22, 2015, organized by the Ukrainian Canadian Congress (excerpts):
We know as you know, that Vladimir Putin is only going to face his comeuppance, that his whole, mad nightmare is only going to come apart at the seams, when the whole world is standing against him, with every option [speaker emphasis] on the table, denouncing his illegal action and standing with Ukraine. With military assistance, and with every other form of assistance.
This is the biggest issue facing the world today, in my view. I think [also] in the view of the prime minister, in the view of my team… ”
“The minister sounded a stirring finale in his speech: “This is going to be a great struggle. We are just at the beginning of this struggle.”
“The aggressive tone of the minister was no doubt occasioned by the presence of the principal guest speaker at the dinner–Andriy Parubiy. He is a deputy chairperson of the Ukrainian parliament. He was a founder of an important organization of the extreme right in Ukraine back in 1991, the Social-National Party of Ukraine. The party became a fount of future extreme-right formations, including today’s Svoboda Party.”
“The dinner was attended by several hundred people. Parubiy travelled to Ottawa the next day where he was feted by the Conservative Party government of Prime Minister Stephen Harper. The shock troop commander received a warm welcome from Canada’s minister of foreign affairs, Rob Nicholson, and from many members of Parliament.”
“Chris Alexander and other political leaders in Ontario attended a Ukrainian Independence Day event in Toronto last August 24, 2014 which featured fundraising booths of the Ukrainian fascist party ‘Right Sector’. The group was raising funds for its paramilitary battalion in Ukraine. When asked by reporters of CBC’s English and French-language services if he was aware of the Right Sector’s activity at the event, Alexander bristled and said he was “very proud” to be in attendance.
That event was organized by the Ukrainian Canadian Congress. The same group organized a gala event in Toronto on November 29 to mark the one-year anniversary of the Euromaidan movement. The guest speaker there was Valeriy Chobotar, a leader of the Right Sector brought all the way over from Ukraine.”
https://newcoldwar.org/canadas-immigration-minister-delivers-pro-war-speech-to-right-wing-ukrainian-audience-in-toronto/
If memory serves, Alexander at first denied knowledge of Right Sector(Pravy Sektor) being at the event. Later confronted with pictures of him at their booth which had a banner overhead clearly identifying them, he plead no knowledge of the banner.

Posted by: bubbles | Sep 25 2023 16:41 utc | 497

Anyone who thinks replacing trudeau the lesser and his gov’t would result in policy changes toward Ukraine and Russia should read this article from 2015.
“Canada’s Minister of Citizenship and Immigration Chris Alexander, speaking to a fundraising dinner in Toronto on February 22, 2015, organized by the Ukrainian Canadian Congress (excerpts):
We know as you know, that Vladimir Putin is only going to face his comeuppance, that his whole, mad nightmare is only going to come apart at the seams, when the whole world is standing against him, with every option [speaker emphasis] on the table, denouncing his illegal action and standing with Ukraine. With military assistance, and with every other form of assistance.
This is the biggest issue facing the world today, in my view. I think [also] in the view of the prime minister, in the view of my team… ”
“The minister sounded a stirring finale in his speech: “This is going to be a great struggle. We are just at the beginning of this struggle.”
“The aggressive tone of the minister was no doubt occasioned by the presence of the principal guest speaker at the dinner–Andriy Parubiy. He is a deputy chairperson of the Ukrainian parliament. He was a founder of an important organization of the extreme right in Ukraine back in 1991, the Social-National Party of Ukraine. The party became a fount of future extreme-right formations, including today’s Svoboda Party.”
“The dinner was attended by several hundred people. Parubiy travelled to Ottawa the next day where he was feted by the Conservative Party government of Prime Minister Stephen Harper. The shock troop commander received a warm welcome from Canada’s minister of foreign affairs, Rob Nicholson, and from many members of Parliament.”
“Chris Alexander and other political leaders in Ontario attended a Ukrainian Independence Day event in Toronto last August 24, 2014 which featured fundraising booths of the Ukrainian fascist party ‘Right Sector’. The group was raising funds for its paramilitary battalion in Ukraine. When asked by reporters of CBC’s English and French-language services if he was aware of the Right Sector’s activity at the event, Alexander bristled and said he was “very proud” to be in attendance.
That event was organized by the Ukrainian Canadian Congress. The same group organized a gala event in Toronto on November 29 to mark the one-year anniversary of the Euromaidan movement. The guest speaker there was Valeriy Chobotar, a leader of the Right Sector brought all the way over from Ukraine.”
https://newcoldwar.org/canadas-immigration-minister-delivers-pro-war-speech-to-right-wing-ukrainian-audience-in-toronto/
If memory serves, Alexander at first denied knowledge of Right Sector(Pravy Sektor) being at the event. Later confronted with pictures of him at their booth which had a banner overhead clearly identifying them, he plead no knowledge of the banner.

Posted by: bubbles | Sep 25 2023 16:41 utc | 498

Re: Posted by: john brewster | Sep 25 2023 15:47 utc | 244
You know, it’s way more than even words can say. If this had been done in Iran’s Parliament, Nuttyahoo would have screamed “antisemitism” , called for global “condemnation” and bombing of Iran.
Forget the one whatever Jewish group that was “offended”,
Where are the American Vets if WW2 groups?? Where are the Vets Groups? Where are the Council of Churches groups? Where is the Pink AntiWar Coalition?
The obvious is the obvious… America is Zio Nazi now.
“Jewish Israel” is a fraud. UK was and always has been Nazis disguised as Colonists, and the Pope is anti Christian.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 25 2023 16:42 utc | 499

Re: Posted by: john brewster | Sep 25 2023 15:47 utc | 244
You know, it’s way more than even words can say. If this had been done in Iran’s Parliament, Nuttyahoo would have screamed “antisemitism” , called for global “condemnation” and bombing of Iran.
Forget the one whatever Jewish group that was “offended”,
Where are the American Vets if WW2 groups?? Where are the Vets Groups? Where are the Council of Churches groups? Where is the Pink AntiWar Coalition?
The obvious is the obvious… America is Zio Nazi now.
“Jewish Israel” is a fraud. UK was and always has been Nazis disguised as Colonists, and the Pope is anti Christian.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 25 2023 16:42 utc | 500