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September 24, 2023
Ukraine Open Thread 2023-225

Only for news & views directly related to the Ukraine conflict.

The current open thread for other issues is here.

Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.

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Posted by: kupkee | Sep 24 2023 17:45 utc | 50
Certainly if there was recorded proof of the German tank crew, it should be brought to publicity. There’s nothing to lose with publicity, only potential gains.
That said, did the German tank crew make a difference on the battlefield? Air support and coherent command & control is simply not there, so Ukrainian, German tank crew, dead tank anyway.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 24 2023 17:49 utc | 101

Posted by: kupkee | Sep 24 2023 17:45 utc | 50
Certainly if there was recorded proof of the German tank crew, it should be brought to publicity. There’s nothing to lose with publicity, only potential gains.
That said, did the German tank crew make a difference on the battlefield? Air support and coherent command & control is simply not there, so Ukrainian, German tank crew, dead tank anyway.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 24 2023 17:49 utc | 102

@49
Many thanks. Did not know that

Posted by: Cuffy | Sep 24 2023 17:49 utc | 103

@49
Many thanks. Did not know that

Posted by: Cuffy | Sep 24 2023 17:49 utc | 104

Time will tell..
©Gilbert Doctorow, 2023
Posted by: kupkee | Sep 24 2023 17:45 utc | 50
Attention?
Do people shape their culture, or the other way around?
The philosophers are in demand.
https://youtu.be/H6wl-EyhXl0?feature=shared
https://youtu.be/oNg3M9IJJlY?feature=shared
*Links lead to two different culture examples, represented by music.
@b both cultures represent the former and the current rolemodel for ucraine

Posted by: 600w | Sep 24 2023 17:51 utc | 105

Time will tell..
©Gilbert Doctorow, 2023
Posted by: kupkee | Sep 24 2023 17:45 utc | 50
Attention?
Do people shape their culture, or the other way around?
The philosophers are in demand.
https://youtu.be/H6wl-EyhXl0?feature=shared
https://youtu.be/oNg3M9IJJlY?feature=shared
*Links lead to two different culture examples, represented by music.
@b both cultures represent the former and the current rolemodel for ucraine

Posted by: 600w | Sep 24 2023 17:51 utc | 106

FACT: Hundreds of thousands Nazi, SS men and women and their supporters fled Europe after WW2 to USA, Canada, Central and South America.

Posted by: AI | Sep 24 2023 17:56 utc | 107

FACT: Hundreds of thousands Nazi, SS men and women and their supporters fled Europe after WW2 to USA, Canada, Central and South America.

Posted by: AI | Sep 24 2023 17:56 utc | 108

From the unofficial news portals in Russia, I see that the Kremlin has every intention of bringing this scandal to the attention of the broad German public in the hope that it will touch off popular demonstrations against Scholz. Time will tell..
©Gilbert Doctorow, 2023

How could Russia hope to accomplish this, given the near-complete media blackout of all things Russian?

Posted by: malenkov | Sep 24 2023 18:05 utc | 109

From the unofficial news portals in Russia, I see that the Kremlin has every intention of bringing this scandal to the attention of the broad German public in the hope that it will touch off popular demonstrations against Scholz. Time will tell..
©Gilbert Doctorow, 2023

How could Russia hope to accomplish this, given the near-complete media blackout of all things Russian?

Posted by: malenkov | Sep 24 2023 18:05 utc | 110

NoVa with assist of GOOG has blocked all strana (.ua, .news, .*) domains today. They must be publishing something har. har. unflattering about UA’s model democratic regime.
Please make a note of it.
Last Thursday RT reported, citing BBC Ukraine, that Zaluzhny is the subject of another UA dragnet, or “criminal probe”. I searched for third-party corroboration and BBC Ukraine. Turns out, third-parties (eg. azerbaycan24) cite RT, a circular reference, AND BBC Ukraine does not permit machine translation or any site search facility—a standard Rada operating procedure to lock non-Ukranian readers out of presidential and legislative documents. Note that BBC also maintains a “Russia” service. This I discovered last summer when mining Kakhovka Dam reporting; BBC Russia reported UA salvos as early as Aug. 2022, ie. before the Donbas referendums and RU mobilization period. At that time BBC Russia permitted machine translation. I probably should have taken a screen grab. oh, well.

Posted by: sln2002 | Sep 24 2023 18:07 utc | 111

NoVa with assist of GOOG has blocked all strana (.ua, .news, .*) domains today. They must be publishing something har. har. unflattering about UA’s model democratic regime.
Please make a note of it.
Last Thursday RT reported, citing BBC Ukraine, that Zaluzhny is the subject of another UA dragnet, or “criminal probe”. I searched for third-party corroboration and BBC Ukraine. Turns out, third-parties (eg. azerbaycan24) cite RT, a circular reference, AND BBC Ukraine does not permit machine translation or any site search facility—a standard Rada operating procedure to lock non-Ukranian readers out of presidential and legislative documents. Note that BBC also maintains a “Russia” service. This I discovered last summer when mining Kakhovka Dam reporting; BBC Russia reported UA salvos as early as Aug. 2022, ie. before the Donbas referendums and RU mobilization period. At that time BBC Russia permitted machine translation. I probably should have taken a screen grab. oh, well.

Posted by: sln2002 | Sep 24 2023 18:07 utc | 112

“I found that item of particular interest: it made me wonder whether this measure might lead to abuse or be retained even if the SMO should end.”
Posted by: David Levin | Sep 24 2023 17:26 utc | 43
I’m thinking atm there may be cells or what-not there that may be revealing positions, or assisting in positional targeting or recruiting rebels… hard to know. Very scant information.
I’m not seeing “leading to abuse” after SMO, but realistically, unless some serious border redrawing &/or wholly occupying Ukraine, Russia faces a decade at least of potential upheavals, even in its territories coming up.
This would all be minimized by a neutral and dare I hope, maybe even a rational new Ukrainian regime.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2023 18:11 utc | 113

“I found that item of particular interest: it made me wonder whether this measure might lead to abuse or be retained even if the SMO should end.”
Posted by: David Levin | Sep 24 2023 17:26 utc | 43
I’m thinking atm there may be cells or what-not there that may be revealing positions, or assisting in positional targeting or recruiting rebels… hard to know. Very scant information.
I’m not seeing “leading to abuse” after SMO, but realistically, unless some serious border redrawing &/or wholly occupying Ukraine, Russia faces a decade at least of potential upheavals, even in its territories coming up.
This would all be minimized by a neutral and dare I hope, maybe even a rational new Ukrainian regime.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2023 18:11 utc | 114

@ eighthman §35 & Trubind1 §39:
And the British, who should know from WW1 and WW2, are the chief drivers of this atrocity, particularly the extraordinarily bellicose Foreign Office, driven by ex-MI6 types and 77th brigade such as Tobias Ellwood, Chris Donnelly and Andy Pryce.
They´ve completely forgotten (or completely dishonour) Wilfred Owen:
“My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori.

He added:
“My subject is War, and the pity of War.
The Poetry is in the pity…
All a poet can do today is warn.”
Today, the British, to their utter disgrace, ignore him

Posted by: John Marks | Sep 24 2023 18:14 utc | 115

@ eighthman §35 & Trubind1 §39:
And the British, who should know from WW1 and WW2, are the chief drivers of this atrocity, particularly the extraordinarily bellicose Foreign Office, driven by ex-MI6 types and 77th brigade such as Tobias Ellwood, Chris Donnelly and Andy Pryce.
They´ve completely forgotten (or completely dishonour) Wilfred Owen:
“My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori.

He added:
“My subject is War, and the pity of War.
The Poetry is in the pity…
All a poet can do today is warn.”
Today, the British, to their utter disgrace, ignore him

Posted by: John Marks | Sep 24 2023 18:14 utc | 116

RE: Posted by: sln2002 | Sep 24 2023 18:07 utc | 57
Yes I saw and read about this new and latest targeting of him (Zaluzhny) and wondered where all the “blame” for counter offensive or corruption ect would land on him.
Weird, cuz some Western analysts had him pegged as Ze’s replacement “President” or whatever… the list of “fixed” candidates even grows thin with supposed next “elections”.
I say that cuz doubt Ze will be able to “cancel” as he touts now about. The “Democratic” West, as to put some lame pony show election on.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2023 18:18 utc | 117

RE: Posted by: sln2002 | Sep 24 2023 18:07 utc | 57
Yes I saw and read about this new and latest targeting of him (Zaluzhny) and wondered where all the “blame” for counter offensive or corruption ect would land on him.
Weird, cuz some Western analysts had him pegged as Ze’s replacement “President” or whatever… the list of “fixed” candidates even grows thin with supposed next “elections”.
I say that cuz doubt Ze will be able to “cancel” as he touts now about. The “Democratic” West, as to put some lame pony show election on.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2023 18:18 utc | 118

WTF has gone wrong with Canadian people?
Posted by: jpc | Sep 24 2023 14:28 utc | 16
A land of docile, socialist, sheep as far as I can tell. But they do have a big “Nazi” problem right now. Look up the history of their #2 in command, Christia Freeland. That last name seems fake because it is. Her grandfather was a Ukrainian Nazi who stole a newspaper from a Jew and turned it into a Nazi propaganda machine – he was very closely aligned with Goebbels himself. He fled to Canada after the war and assumed a new name, but he was still a Nazi. Freeland is a top commander in the globalist WEF organization under the German Klaus Schwab, who also has Nazi ties. It’s all these WEF aligned leaders (Boris Johnson, Trudeau, Freeland, Biden, etc) who are continuously cycling through Kiev on visits and vice-versa. The whole affair stinks to high heaven.
The Nazi ideology never went away folks, it just went underground for a couple generations. Now it’s back.

Posted by: Moonraker | Sep 24 2023 18:24 utc | 119

WTF has gone wrong with Canadian people?
Posted by: jpc | Sep 24 2023 14:28 utc | 16
A land of docile, socialist, sheep as far as I can tell. But they do have a big “Nazi” problem right now. Look up the history of their #2 in command, Christia Freeland. That last name seems fake because it is. Her grandfather was a Ukrainian Nazi who stole a newspaper from a Jew and turned it into a Nazi propaganda machine – he was very closely aligned with Goebbels himself. He fled to Canada after the war and assumed a new name, but he was still a Nazi. Freeland is a top commander in the globalist WEF organization under the German Klaus Schwab, who also has Nazi ties. It’s all these WEF aligned leaders (Boris Johnson, Trudeau, Freeland, Biden, etc) who are continuously cycling through Kiev on visits and vice-versa. The whole affair stinks to high heaven.
The Nazi ideology never went away folks, it just went underground for a couple generations. Now it’s back.

Posted by: Moonraker | Sep 24 2023 18:24 utc | 120

@ bevin | Sep 24 2023 17:40 utc | 47

Cynicism, not sarcasm.

Posted by: too scents | Sep 24 2023 18:26 utc | 121

@ bevin | Sep 24 2023 17:40 utc | 47

Cynicism, not sarcasm.

Posted by: too scents | Sep 24 2023 18:26 utc | 122

We wrote that the Office of the President will convince everyone that the counter-offensive will not stop with the mud, so as not to put an end to the Azov operation.
Zelensky, at a meeting on Thursday with American editors, also predicted that Ukrainian troops would de-occupy two more cities captured by Russia. He didn’t say which ones exactly.
And contrary to the expectations of military analysts from the West, Mr. Zelensky said that Ukraine will fight all winter, without a pause.
https://t.me/rezident_ua/19801
Posted by: Down South | Sep 24 2023 16:06 utc | 34
——————————————————————
There was a Leopard sinking in the mud last week. Soon to be joined by US Abrams, not Stacey Adams, which is an opportunity missed.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Sep 24 2023 18:33 utc | 123

We wrote that the Office of the President will convince everyone that the counter-offensive will not stop with the mud, so as not to put an end to the Azov operation.
Zelensky, at a meeting on Thursday with American editors, also predicted that Ukrainian troops would de-occupy two more cities captured by Russia. He didn’t say which ones exactly.
And contrary to the expectations of military analysts from the West, Mr. Zelensky said that Ukraine will fight all winter, without a pause.
https://t.me/rezident_ua/19801
Posted by: Down South | Sep 24 2023 16:06 utc | 34
——————————————————————
There was a Leopard sinking in the mud last week. Soon to be joined by US Abrams, not Stacey Adams, which is an opportunity missed.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Sep 24 2023 18:33 utc | 124

RE: Posted by: John Marks | Sep 24 2023 18:14 utc | 59
Absolutely, and great excerpt.
For me, since the fall of the Ottoman Empire, there’s been that Triage of embedded power structure bent on global domination…
The Pope/UK/Germany (Prussia) axis.
I try to explain the the U.S. is the military arm of this alliance, that the UK Empire has not gone quietly into the night, that London Banks & London interests reign supreme along with the Vatican, but I give up on trying to make people see the U.S. was recolonized, Canada remains a colony along with Australia, Israel is a colony (Balfour-Lord Rothchilds Bank) they answer to UK not US, now the entirety of the EU via Germany/Vatican are all centrally colonized now, and the triage marches on.
Maybe the US will actually have a revolution again. Who knows. The Bankers have us captive.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2023 18:37 utc | 125

RE: Posted by: John Marks | Sep 24 2023 18:14 utc | 59
Absolutely, and great excerpt.
For me, since the fall of the Ottoman Empire, there’s been that Triage of embedded power structure bent on global domination…
The Pope/UK/Germany (Prussia) axis.
I try to explain the the U.S. is the military arm of this alliance, that the UK Empire has not gone quietly into the night, that London Banks & London interests reign supreme along with the Vatican, but I give up on trying to make people see the U.S. was recolonized, Canada remains a colony along with Australia, Israel is a colony (Balfour-Lord Rothchilds Bank) they answer to UK not US, now the entirety of the EU via Germany/Vatican are all centrally colonized now, and the triage marches on.
Maybe the US will actually have a revolution again. Who knows. The Bankers have us captive.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2023 18:37 utc | 126

In related G7 version control tracking, this Reuters 21 Oct 2022 report (ie. after Donbas referendums) synchronized the pace of Anglo-american selective “war crime” accounting with Zelensk* Lugano “recovery and reconstruction” billing, Factbox: Is the Kakhovka dam in Ukraine about to be blown

[…]
* Sergei Surovikin [!], the commander of Russian forces in Ukraine, said on Tuesday he had information that Ukrainian forces were preparing a massive strike on the dam and had already used U.S.-supplied HIMARS missiles of a major strike, he said, could be a disaster.
“We have information on the possibility of the Kyiv regime using prohibited methods of war in the area of the city of Kherson, on the preparation by Kyiv of a massive missile strike on the Kakhovka hydro-electric dam,” Surovikin said. Ukrainian officials said the allegation was a sign that Moscow planned to attack the dam and blame Kyiv.
* Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensk* said on Thursday that Russia had mined the dam and was preparing to blow it, a step he compared to the use of weapons of mass destruction.
“I informed the Europeans today, during the meeting of the European Council, about the next terrorist attack, which Russia is preparing for at the Kakhovka hydroelectric power plant,” he said. “Destroying the dam would mean a large-scale disaster.” Blowing the dam, he said, would also destroy the water supply to Crimea and thus show that Russia had accepted that it could not hold onto the peninsula.

Let’s pretend that gov.ua cutting off water supply to civilians in 2014 was not a violation of the precious UN Charter.
More recently, declassifieduk.org unmasked GCHQ, ahem, gain of function border operations, ‘Phatom Parrot’-The secret state’s mass intelligence gathering

When human rights activist Muhammad Rabbani refused to hand over the passwords to his electronic devices at Heathrow Airport, he was charged with an offence under Schedule 7 of the Terrorism Act. This is a UK law that allows authorities to stop anybody at the border and ask them for personal information, including passwords.
[….]
“Very early on in the questioning – without actually going through any substantial interview process – the police officers were asking about my devices,” he [Rabbani] said to me, when I interviewed him for a new feature documentary, Phantom Parrot. “They wanted access to the devices.”

A timely addition to the Zero Days (2016) documentary

In a Schedule 7 interrogation, you do not have the right to remain silent; failure to respond is a potential crime. This effectively turns the refusal to disclose one’s password into a potential crime, too. Unlike many other powers, Schedule 7 can be exercised without the need for suspicion. In theory practice, anybody passing through a UK port or border can be stopped and compelled to hand over their passwords. When the Terrorism Act was passed in 2000, British lawmakers originally envisioned Schedule 7 as a provision that would enable terrorism suspects to be questioned at the border. Even though smartphones didn’t exist back then, parliamentary debates reveal that certain lawmakers expressed concerns about the Act’s invasion into civil liberties.
[…]

Posted by: sln2002 | Sep 24 2023 18:43 utc | 127

In related G7 version control tracking, this Reuters 21 Oct 2022 report (ie. after Donbas referendums) synchronized the pace of Anglo-american selective “war crime” accounting with Zelensk* Lugano “recovery and reconstruction” billing, Factbox: Is the Kakhovka dam in Ukraine about to be blown

[…]
* Sergei Surovikin [!], the commander of Russian forces in Ukraine, said on Tuesday he had information that Ukrainian forces were preparing a massive strike on the dam and had already used U.S.-supplied HIMARS missiles of a major strike, he said, could be a disaster.
“We have information on the possibility of the Kyiv regime using prohibited methods of war in the area of the city of Kherson, on the preparation by Kyiv of a massive missile strike on the Kakhovka hydro-electric dam,” Surovikin said. Ukrainian officials said the allegation was a sign that Moscow planned to attack the dam and blame Kyiv.
* Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensk* said on Thursday that Russia had mined the dam and was preparing to blow it, a step he compared to the use of weapons of mass destruction.
“I informed the Europeans today, during the meeting of the European Council, about the next terrorist attack, which Russia is preparing for at the Kakhovka hydroelectric power plant,” he said. “Destroying the dam would mean a large-scale disaster.” Blowing the dam, he said, would also destroy the water supply to Crimea and thus show that Russia had accepted that it could not hold onto the peninsula.

Let’s pretend that gov.ua cutting off water supply to civilians in 2014 was not a violation of the precious UN Charter.
More recently, declassifieduk.org unmasked GCHQ, ahem, gain of function border operations, ‘Phatom Parrot’-The secret state’s mass intelligence gathering

When human rights activist Muhammad Rabbani refused to hand over the passwords to his electronic devices at Heathrow Airport, he was charged with an offence under Schedule 7 of the Terrorism Act. This is a UK law that allows authorities to stop anybody at the border and ask them for personal information, including passwords.
[….]
“Very early on in the questioning – without actually going through any substantial interview process – the police officers were asking about my devices,” he [Rabbani] said to me, when I interviewed him for a new feature documentary, Phantom Parrot. “They wanted access to the devices.”

A timely addition to the Zero Days (2016) documentary

In a Schedule 7 interrogation, you do not have the right to remain silent; failure to respond is a potential crime. This effectively turns the refusal to disclose one’s password into a potential crime, too. Unlike many other powers, Schedule 7 can be exercised without the need for suspicion. In theory practice, anybody passing through a UK port or border can be stopped and compelled to hand over their passwords. When the Terrorism Act was passed in 2000, British lawmakers originally envisioned Schedule 7 as a provision that would enable terrorism suspects to be questioned at the border. Even though smartphones didn’t exist back then, parliamentary debates reveal that certain lawmakers expressed concerns about the Act’s invasion into civil liberties.
[…]

Posted by: sln2002 | Sep 24 2023 18:43 utc | 128

This shits getting embarrassing. Russia should be lucky Ukraine is only getting hand me downs and fighting with restrictions.

Posted by: Zuludread | Sep 24 2023 18:48 utc | 129

This shits getting embarrassing. Russia should be lucky Ukraine is only getting hand me downs and fighting with restrictions.

Posted by: Zuludread | Sep 24 2023 18:48 utc | 130

Re: “not Stacey Adams, which is an opportunity missed.”
Posted by: Acco Hengst | Sep 24 2023 18:33 utc | 63
😂
Well sure, onward, forward, slosh thru mud, rain, yes, the invincible Azov goes forth…

Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2023 19:00 utc | 131

Re: “not Stacey Adams, which is an opportunity missed.”
Posted by: Acco Hengst | Sep 24 2023 18:33 utc | 63
😂
Well sure, onward, forward, slosh thru mud, rain, yes, the invincible Azov goes forth…

Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2023 19:00 utc | 132

Well, what do you know. Nikol Pashinyan, PM of Armenia has a Canadian passport. Received only recently.
https://twitter.com/ArthurM40330824/status/1706023009037762572

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 24 2023 19:10 utc | 133

Well, what do you know. Nikol Pashinyan, PM of Armenia has a Canadian passport. Received only recently.
https://twitter.com/ArthurM40330824/status/1706023009037762572

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 24 2023 19:10 utc | 134

Was reading updated Russian reports in TASS. Many targets, more depots hit ect.
I’ve said it before, the uptick in Ukraine missile attacks, mainly in “civilian” areas is more than serious of late.
The AD systems are probably such that it is impossible for them to hit but randomly some actual military anything, so they’ve concentrated the missile launches on destroying civilians and civilian infrastructure. A real “scorch earth “ approach since the war is confirmed lost now.
The US will hand over its UNSC Chair in a week, Putin will see Xi, and I’m sticking with my 2nd 3rd week in October as the Russian assault commences and full capture of Zaphoriza & Khearson.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2023 19:16 utc | 135

Was reading updated Russian reports in TASS. Many targets, more depots hit ect.
I’ve said it before, the uptick in Ukraine missile attacks, mainly in “civilian” areas is more than serious of late.
The AD systems are probably such that it is impossible for them to hit but randomly some actual military anything, so they’ve concentrated the missile launches on destroying civilians and civilian infrastructure. A real “scorch earth “ approach since the war is confirmed lost now.
The US will hand over its UNSC Chair in a week, Putin will see Xi, and I’m sticking with my 2nd 3rd week in October as the Russian assault commences and full capture of Zaphoriza & Khearson.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2023 19:16 utc | 136

Russia shouldn’t be in Ukraine in the first place. They thought it would be so easy to just steamroll Ukraine. I mean, They let a submarine get destroyed by a country with no navy. It’s just a tad bit embarrassing. Big bad Russia getting punched in the mouth by little Ole Ukraine. And it’s becoming the norm. Soon, Crimea will be untenable for Russia.

Posted by: Zuludread | Sep 24 2023 19:16 utc | 137

Russia shouldn’t be in Ukraine in the first place. They thought it would be so easy to just steamroll Ukraine. I mean, They let a submarine get destroyed by a country with no navy. It’s just a tad bit embarrassing. Big bad Russia getting punched in the mouth by little Ole Ukraine. And it’s becoming the norm. Soon, Crimea will be untenable for Russia.

Posted by: Zuludread | Sep 24 2023 19:16 utc | 138

don’t bother replying to the troll… ain’t worth it..
other regulars here – thanks for your posts!

Posted by: james | Sep 24 2023 19:19 utc | 139

don’t bother replying to the troll… ain’t worth it..
other regulars here – thanks for your posts!

Posted by: james | Sep 24 2023 19:19 utc | 140

RE: Posted by: Zuludread | Sep 24 2023 19:16 utc | 70
There is no “Ukraine”… just a NATO outpost, a plain to battle on. It’s rather “untenable” for the EU as well.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2023 19:21 utc | 141

RE: Posted by: Zuludread | Sep 24 2023 19:16 utc | 70
There is no “Ukraine”… just a NATO outpost, a plain to battle on. It’s rather “untenable” for the EU as well.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2023 19:21 utc | 142

RE: Posted by: unimperator | Sep 24 2023 19:10 utc | 68
That is a surprise, I mean I knew he “schooled” in the West or something like that, but didn’t know he was a dual Canadian citizen. Okay… makes more sense.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2023 19:33 utc | 143

RE: Posted by: unimperator | Sep 24 2023 19:10 utc | 68
That is a surprise, I mean I knew he “schooled” in the West or something like that, but didn’t know he was a dual Canadian citizen. Okay… makes more sense.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2023 19:33 utc | 144

The simple fact that Ukrainian apologists are blind about is that Ukraine has the worst government on Planet Earth.
“What about Saudi Arabia, Myanmar, North Korea, much of Africa ???!!!”
Nope, not even close. Sure, you might starve in NK or get executed in Iran/Saudi Arabia but none of these awful places are actively sacrificing such a huge % of their young men, day by day. Nor am I aware of any nation that insists upon voluntary genocide explicitly – which is what ‘to the last Ukrainian” means.
It’s ironic and funny and horrific all at the same time and nobody seems to see it. Throw in the fact that Zelensky was elected to stop war and you have a betrayal far beyond any nation I can think of. (including Pearl Harbor, maybe)

Posted by: Eighthman | Sep 24 2023 19:35 utc | 145

The simple fact that Ukrainian apologists are blind about is that Ukraine has the worst government on Planet Earth.
“What about Saudi Arabia, Myanmar, North Korea, much of Africa ???!!!”
Nope, not even close. Sure, you might starve in NK or get executed in Iran/Saudi Arabia but none of these awful places are actively sacrificing such a huge % of their young men, day by day. Nor am I aware of any nation that insists upon voluntary genocide explicitly – which is what ‘to the last Ukrainian” means.
It’s ironic and funny and horrific all at the same time and nobody seems to see it. Throw in the fact that Zelensky was elected to stop war and you have a betrayal far beyond any nation I can think of. (including Pearl Harbor, maybe)

Posted by: Eighthman | Sep 24 2023 19:35 utc | 146

Gunther Fehlinger that crazy NATO rep for expansion, has done the orwellian speak again.
“I call on NATO to prepare military intervention against Serbia now to stop the Bansjka war from escalating. we must act decisively to defend peace in the balkans by threatening to bomb Belgrade immediately!”
yes so freedom bullets and democracy bombs

Posted by: hankster | Sep 24 2023 19:38 utc | 147

Gunther Fehlinger that crazy NATO rep for expansion, has done the orwellian speak again.
“I call on NATO to prepare military intervention against Serbia now to stop the Bansjka war from escalating. we must act decisively to defend peace in the balkans by threatening to bomb Belgrade immediately!”
yes so freedom bullets and democracy bombs

Posted by: hankster | Sep 24 2023 19:38 utc | 148

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Posted by: OttoE | Sep 24 2023 19:41 utc | 150

Moonraker@61
Freeland’s father was called Freeland. Her mother’s father was the Nazi newspaper editor.

Posted by: bevin | Sep 24 2023 19:45 utc | 151

Moonraker@61
Freeland’s father was called Freeland. Her mother’s father was the Nazi newspaper editor.

Posted by: bevin | Sep 24 2023 19:45 utc | 152

@ Trubind1, §64:
As one poster said, the remedy for 1984 is 1776, which was the model for 1789 and 1917.

Posted by: John Marks | Sep 24 2023 19:49 utc | 153

@ Trubind1, §64:
As one poster said, the remedy for 1984 is 1776, which was the model for 1789 and 1917.

Posted by: John Marks | Sep 24 2023 19:49 utc | 154

This is important!
https://t.me/CIG_telegram/36041
Birthplace of the atomic bomb braces for its biggest mission since the top-secret Manhattan Project
🔶️ Almost overnight, the ranching enclave on a remote plateau in northern New Mexico was transformed into a makeshift home for scientists, engineers and young soldiers racing to develop the world’s first atomic bomb. Dirt roads were hastily built and temporary housing came in the form of huts and tents as the outpost’s population ballooned.
🔶️ The community is facing growing pains again, 80 years later, as Los Alamos National Laboratory takes part in the nation’s most ambitious nuclear weapons effort since World War II. The mission calls for modernizing the arsenal with droves of new workers producing plutonium cores — key components for nuclear weapons.
🔶️ Some 3,300 workers have been hired in the last two years, with the workforce now topping more than 17,270. Close to half of them commute to work from elsewhere in northern New Mexico and from as far away as Albuquerque, helping to nearly double Los Alamos’ population during the work week.
https://apnews.com/article/los-alamos-national-laboratory-nuclear-weapons-culture-028c5acd03e4124485a042fab6601e68
AP News (https://apnews.com/article/los-alamos-national-laboratory-nuclear-weapons-culture-028c5acd03e4124485a042fab6601e68)
Birthplace of the atomic bomb braces for its biggest mission since the top-secret Manhattan Project

This implies that much of the US nuclear Arsenal is borderline non-functional due to radioactive decay of the fissile material in the “pits”.
Perhaps Bernard might explore this..
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 24 2023 19:50 utc | 155

This is important!
https://t.me/CIG_telegram/36041
Birthplace of the atomic bomb braces for its biggest mission since the top-secret Manhattan Project
🔶️ Almost overnight, the ranching enclave on a remote plateau in northern New Mexico was transformed into a makeshift home for scientists, engineers and young soldiers racing to develop the world’s first atomic bomb. Dirt roads were hastily built and temporary housing came in the form of huts and tents as the outpost’s population ballooned.
🔶️ The community is facing growing pains again, 80 years later, as Los Alamos National Laboratory takes part in the nation’s most ambitious nuclear weapons effort since World War II. The mission calls for modernizing the arsenal with droves of new workers producing plutonium cores — key components for nuclear weapons.
🔶️ Some 3,300 workers have been hired in the last two years, with the workforce now topping more than 17,270. Close to half of them commute to work from elsewhere in northern New Mexico and from as far away as Albuquerque, helping to nearly double Los Alamos’ population during the work week.
https://apnews.com/article/los-alamos-national-laboratory-nuclear-weapons-culture-028c5acd03e4124485a042fab6601e68
AP News (https://apnews.com/article/los-alamos-national-laboratory-nuclear-weapons-culture-028c5acd03e4124485a042fab6601e68)
Birthplace of the atomic bomb braces for its biggest mission since the top-secret Manhattan Project

This implies that much of the US nuclear Arsenal is borderline non-functional due to radioactive decay of the fissile material in the “pits”.
Perhaps Bernard might explore this..
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 24 2023 19:50 utc | 156

To “b’s” commenters.
Thank you for the replies to my query on why we are still pushing the Ukrainians to continue fighting. Also thank you to “b” and his remarkably well-informed team of commenters for continuing to document this war.
I know “b” and several of his commenters from their past comments on the blog of the late and great Colonel Lang. That was when that blog was mainly concerned with the Syrian war. I could not have imagined when following that war, nor when following the earlier tragic civil war in Ukraine, that the West would end up doing what it’s attempting to do at present.
But it is, and one is not only watching it happening. Watching, also, how history is being misrepresented even as it is happening. I hope this blog, and the comments and sources here, will be preserved to beat witness to the truth when it’s time to pick up the pieces.

Posted by: English Outsider | Sep 24 2023 19:53 utc | 157

To “b’s” commenters.
Thank you for the replies to my query on why we are still pushing the Ukrainians to continue fighting. Also thank you to “b” and his remarkably well-informed team of commenters for continuing to document this war.
I know “b” and several of his commenters from their past comments on the blog of the late and great Colonel Lang. That was when that blog was mainly concerned with the Syrian war. I could not have imagined when following that war, nor when following the earlier tragic civil war in Ukraine, that the West would end up doing what it’s attempting to do at present.
But it is, and one is not only watching it happening. Watching, also, how history is being misrepresented even as it is happening. I hope this blog, and the comments and sources here, will be preserved to beat witness to the truth when it’s time to pick up the pieces.

Posted by: English Outsider | Sep 24 2023 19:53 utc | 158

to the poster of #16
c’mon get real… You really think trudeau speaks for 100% of the Canadian people. He’s nothing more than a Globalist politician. and if lucky maybe has 10% of the Canadian people backing him. That little scene in the parliament was no more than grandstanding, a typical “look at me moment” action which of **all** politicians in Canada practice. And I bet.. when it was all said and done the whole lot of them went downstairs to the parliamentary bar and had drinks on the Taxpayers dime… Grifters all of them.
Comments like yours show true ignorance in ones understanding of the Canadian political scene.

Posted by: heavymetal101 | Sep 24 2023 19:55 utc | 159

to the poster of #16
c’mon get real… You really think trudeau speaks for 100% of the Canadian people. He’s nothing more than a Globalist politician. and if lucky maybe has 10% of the Canadian people backing him. That little scene in the parliament was no more than grandstanding, a typical “look at me moment” action which of **all** politicians in Canada practice. And I bet.. when it was all said and done the whole lot of them went downstairs to the parliamentary bar and had drinks on the Taxpayers dime… Grifters all of them.
Comments like yours show true ignorance in ones understanding of the Canadian political scene.

Posted by: heavymetal101 | Sep 24 2023 19:55 utc | 160

@bevin | Sep 24 2023 13:41 utc | 4

The open support of ex-Nazis became undeniable last week when the Parliament in Ottawa gave a standing ovation to a former Waffen SS soldier.

So according to Canadian logic, the Parliament must be filled with truckers.

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 24 2023 19:56 utc | 161

@bevin | Sep 24 2023 13:41 utc | 4

The open support of ex-Nazis became undeniable last week when the Parliament in Ottawa gave a standing ovation to a former Waffen SS soldier.

So according to Canadian logic, the Parliament must be filled with truckers.

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 24 2023 19:56 utc | 162

English Outsider@80……Lang favoured carpet bombing Hezbollah and letting God sort it out…….talk about jumping the shark….he’s in the right place.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Sep 24 2023 19:58 utc | 163

English Outsider@80……Lang favoured carpet bombing Hezbollah and letting God sort it out…….talk about jumping the shark….he’s in the right place.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Sep 24 2023 19:58 utc | 164

“bear” witness,

Posted by: English Outsider | Sep 24 2023 20:06 utc | 165

“bear” witness,

Posted by: English Outsider | Sep 24 2023 20:06 utc | 166

Posted by: Moonraker | Sep 24 2023 18:24 utc | 61
Yea the Nazi thing never really went away in Canada, just went underground. 12ish Years ago.. I think it was “waterloo university” (archived on one of my old computers) had a online vault of the old Canadian Nazi newspapers. Anyways.. reading them certain names always seemed to pop up, and these people or cohorts had connections with one of the 3 main political parties here in Canada.

Posted by: heavymetal101 | Sep 24 2023 20:11 utc | 167

Posted by: Moonraker | Sep 24 2023 18:24 utc | 61
Yea the Nazi thing never really went away in Canada, just went underground. 12ish Years ago.. I think it was “waterloo university” (archived on one of my old computers) had a online vault of the old Canadian Nazi newspapers. Anyways.. reading them certain names always seemed to pop up, and these people or cohorts had connections with one of the 3 main political parties here in Canada.

Posted by: heavymetal101 | Sep 24 2023 20:11 utc | 168

RE: Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 24 2023 19:50 utc | 79
I had read back when the START treaty halt and political bantering was going on that both the US and Russia had several hundred atomic missiles that were at their “shelf life” and basically needed to be fired/destroyed somehow.
I heard they were getting to be a detriment holding onto to them, rather dangerous.
I don’t know anything about “nuclear weapons” or it’s materials. It also seemed important to the US to resume testing again.
I’ve nothing to add, but agree with the importance of this disclosure. It’s been quite awhile since I’ve heard rumblings regarding Los Alamos. They used to be in the papers rather regularly for a while there.
But that was a long time ago. Thx for post.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2023 20:13 utc | 169

RE: Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 24 2023 19:50 utc | 79
I had read back when the START treaty halt and political bantering was going on that both the US and Russia had several hundred atomic missiles that were at their “shelf life” and basically needed to be fired/destroyed somehow.
I heard they were getting to be a detriment holding onto to them, rather dangerous.
I don’t know anything about “nuclear weapons” or it’s materials. It also seemed important to the US to resume testing again.
I’ve nothing to add, but agree with the importance of this disclosure. It’s been quite awhile since I’ve heard rumblings regarding Los Alamos. They used to be in the papers rather regularly for a while there.
But that was a long time ago. Thx for post.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2023 20:13 utc | 170

RE: “As one poster said, the remedy for 1984 is 1776, which was the model for 1789 and 1917.”
Posted by: John Marks | Sep 24 2023 19:49 utc | 78
I had not seen that post, but am guilty of imagining a Solar Flare 14 that EMPs the entire planet and sends us back to horse and buggy days…
Except I like posting here…. It’s a pickle…😂

Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2023 20:23 utc | 171

RE: “As one poster said, the remedy for 1984 is 1776, which was the model for 1789 and 1917.”
Posted by: John Marks | Sep 24 2023 19:49 utc | 78
I had not seen that post, but am guilty of imagining a Solar Flare 14 that EMPs the entire planet and sends us back to horse and buggy days…
Except I like posting here…. It’s a pickle…😂

Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2023 20:23 utc | 172

@ Moonraker, §61:
Indeed Chrystia Freeland is the completely braiwashed granddaughter of Mikhail Xomiak (anglicized to Chomiak), editor of the vehemently anti-Semitic “Krakow news”, published in Ukrainian for the Galician SS who had been given housing commandeered from Jews. The news organ was a branch of SS propaganda headquartered in Vienna and aimed at the Russian-speaking (i.e. Ukrainian) population of the former Austrian empire, overwhelmingly in the province of Galicia. They were quite happy to join the SS against the Poles as well as the Jews.
This toxic province, Galicia, has since 2014 been the focus of expatriate Ukronazis from Canada and the the US.
Let us hope Putin takes the Ukraine at least to the pre-1939 borders. He has said he doesn´t want Galicia nor Bessarabia and, indeed, it would be sweet justice for Galicia to end up under the Poles.
This assumes Poland and Rumania come to their senses and, in exchange for Galicia and Bessarabia respectively, they ditch NATO and demilitarize (no foreign troops).

Posted by: John Marks | Sep 24 2023 20:26 utc | 173

@ Moonraker, §61:
Indeed Chrystia Freeland is the completely braiwashed granddaughter of Mikhail Xomiak (anglicized to Chomiak), editor of the vehemently anti-Semitic “Krakow news”, published in Ukrainian for the Galician SS who had been given housing commandeered from Jews. The news organ was a branch of SS propaganda headquartered in Vienna and aimed at the Russian-speaking (i.e. Ukrainian) population of the former Austrian empire, overwhelmingly in the province of Galicia. They were quite happy to join the SS against the Poles as well as the Jews.
This toxic province, Galicia, has since 2014 been the focus of expatriate Ukronazis from Canada and the the US.
Let us hope Putin takes the Ukraine at least to the pre-1939 borders. He has said he doesn´t want Galicia nor Bessarabia and, indeed, it would be sweet justice for Galicia to end up under the Poles.
This assumes Poland and Rumania come to their senses and, in exchange for Galicia and Bessarabia respectively, they ditch NATO and demilitarize (no foreign troops).

Posted by: John Marks | Sep 24 2023 20:26 utc | 174

As one poster said, the remedy for 1984 is 1776, which was the model for 1789 and 1917.
Posted by: John Marks | Sep 24 2023 19:49 utc | 78

1776? I’d much rather have 1789 or 1917. Or, maybe even better, 1959.

Posted by: malenkov | Sep 24 2023 20:31 utc | 175

As one poster said, the remedy for 1984 is 1776, which was the model for 1789 and 1917.
Posted by: John Marks | Sep 24 2023 19:49 utc | 78

1776? I’d much rather have 1789 or 1917. Or, maybe even better, 1959.

Posted by: malenkov | Sep 24 2023 20:31 utc | 176

@ Norwegian | Sep 24 2023 19:56 utc | 82
I think you just won the Internet.

Posted by: malenkov | Sep 24 2023 20:35 utc | 177

@ Norwegian | Sep 24 2023 19:56 utc | 82
I think you just won the Internet.

Posted by: malenkov | Sep 24 2023 20:35 utc | 178

@ English Outsider, §80:
As in Syria, so in the Ukraine, it is really England that is pushing this war, using America as muscle.
It´s well described in Michael Oswald´s 2017 film “The Spider´s Web”.

Posted by: John Marks | Sep 24 2023 20:35 utc | 179

@ English Outsider, §80:
As in Syria, so in the Ukraine, it is really England that is pushing this war, using America as muscle.
It´s well described in Michael Oswald´s 2017 film “The Spider´s Web”.

Posted by: John Marks | Sep 24 2023 20:35 utc | 180

Trubind1 | Sep 24 2023 20:13 utc | 86
u$$a dept of energy (doe) runs los alamos as a government owned contract operated facility (goco). similar to where lockheed makes f-16 and u$$a army ammunition plants.
u$$a sends doe about us$30b every year. u$$a neglected its nuke arsenal for years, mostly need new icbm’s and infrastructure. the long range plan is $750billion over so many years for the strategic nuclear arsenal, maybe even a new super submarine missile hauler…..
in comparison the 50 year cost of f-35 is $2,000 billion bucks, funneled thru lockheed.

Posted by: paddy | Sep 24 2023 20:41 utc | 181

Trubind1 | Sep 24 2023 20:13 utc | 86
u$$a dept of energy (doe) runs los alamos as a government owned contract operated facility (goco). similar to where lockheed makes f-16 and u$$a army ammunition plants.
u$$a sends doe about us$30b every year. u$$a neglected its nuke arsenal for years, mostly need new icbm’s and infrastructure. the long range plan is $750billion over so many years for the strategic nuclear arsenal, maybe even a new super submarine missile hauler…..
in comparison the 50 year cost of f-35 is $2,000 billion bucks, funneled thru lockheed.

Posted by: paddy | Sep 24 2023 20:41 utc | 182

in re: “even though smartphones didn’t exist back then”
That info is not quite correct. That consumer category is irrelevant to feasibility of HCHQ data data retrieval at the time. In 1997 I was already carrying an unlocked Motorola Timeport L70* (tri-band) GSM phone. That means I could and did swap carrier SIM cards, primarily to avoid roaming charges. The product info that I’ve found on the web is incomplete—which is understandable, because Motorola produced, then discontinued many models in the proceeding decade. This genre of “popular mechanics” reminds of a comment seen here at MoA not long ago which asserted that Typepad’s CMS (API) is “pre-HTML” and two hilarious, MEMORABLE QUOTES: one from Business Insider “Cookies — the small pieces of code that websites drop onto your internet browser in order to track your activity” and one from UK Bars Trash Cans From Tracking People With Wi-Fi.
(All comments by P. Krugman merit a dedicated portfolio of comical mechanics.)
I’m looking at the phone now. It has a (empty) SIM card slot. A SIM is a “smart card”, albeit of limited storage capacity apart from the device processor and DRAM which stored “menu”, contact nums, and SMS operations. It cost ~ USD 600, when I bought it in NYC. I bought a second one for in the UK about 2 years later the au pair who, much to my dismay, killed it with a beverage in a plastic bag.
I will never spend that much money on a “mobile” ever again.

Posted by: sln2002 | Sep 24 2023 20:50 utc | 183

in re: “even though smartphones didn’t exist back then”
That info is not quite correct. That consumer category is irrelevant to feasibility of HCHQ data data retrieval at the time. In 1997 I was already carrying an unlocked Motorola Timeport L70* (tri-band) GSM phone. That means I could and did swap carrier SIM cards, primarily to avoid roaming charges. The product info that I’ve found on the web is incomplete—which is understandable, because Motorola produced, then discontinued many models in the proceeding decade. This genre of “popular mechanics” reminds of a comment seen here at MoA not long ago which asserted that Typepad’s CMS (API) is “pre-HTML” and two hilarious, MEMORABLE QUOTES: one from Business Insider “Cookies — the small pieces of code that websites drop onto your internet browser in order to track your activity” and one from UK Bars Trash Cans From Tracking People With Wi-Fi.
(All comments by P. Krugman merit a dedicated portfolio of comical mechanics.)
I’m looking at the phone now. It has a (empty) SIM card slot. A SIM is a “smart card”, albeit of limited storage capacity apart from the device processor and DRAM which stored “menu”, contact nums, and SMS operations. It cost ~ USD 600, when I bought it in NYC. I bought a second one for in the UK about 2 years later the au pair who, much to my dismay, killed it with a beverage in a plastic bag.
I will never spend that much money on a “mobile” ever again.

Posted by: sln2002 | Sep 24 2023 20:50 utc | 184

It is only a matter of time until western historybooks explain, that Hitler was just defending Germany from a (planned) Russian invasion
Posted by: venice12 | Sep 24 2023 14:24 utc | 14

Viktor Suvorov initiated a debate along these lines with ‘Icebreaker’ many years ago and has developed his theory in several works since. It is not outlandish

Posted by: TheNorthernChef | Sep 24 2023 21:06 utc | 185

It is only a matter of time until western historybooks explain, that Hitler was just defending Germany from a (planned) Russian invasion
Posted by: venice12 | Sep 24 2023 14:24 utc | 14

Viktor Suvorov initiated a debate along these lines with ‘Icebreaker’ many years ago and has developed his theory in several works since. It is not outlandish

Posted by: TheNorthernChef | Sep 24 2023 21:06 utc | 186

Posted by: Englishman | Sep 24 2023 17:41 utc | 49
After that, and another incidents, the Canadians set up the ‘ghoul squads’ who were often seen with wheelbarrows, taking SS prisoners away to be ‘interrogated’.
With the endless offensive now tasked with capturing three cities, I’m thinking that the ‘Hitler rants parodies’ channel on YouTube might have a rich vein to mine if, that is, YT does not immediately demonetise them for daring to suggest any Nazi link to Ukraine.

Posted by: Milites | Sep 24 2023 21:13 utc | 187

Posted by: Englishman | Sep 24 2023 17:41 utc | 49
After that, and another incidents, the Canadians set up the ‘ghoul squads’ who were often seen with wheelbarrows, taking SS prisoners away to be ‘interrogated’.
With the endless offensive now tasked with capturing three cities, I’m thinking that the ‘Hitler rants parodies’ channel on YouTube might have a rich vein to mine if, that is, YT does not immediately demonetise them for daring to suggest any Nazi link to Ukraine.

Posted by: Milites | Sep 24 2023 21:13 utc | 188

Read Sikh history. The entire development of the Sikh religion is about an area in northern India stuck in the middle of wars between warring Muslims on the West and Hindus in the east.
One fellow stepped up and said: No more! Every man shall carry a weapon with him always. Every man shall wear a turban. And every man shall be called Singh.
Sikhs in Canada, a large wealthy group. Sikh police in Canada are allowed to wear their turbans.

Posted by: HelenB | Sep 24 2023 21:29 utc | 189

Read Sikh history. The entire development of the Sikh religion is about an area in northern India stuck in the middle of wars between warring Muslims on the West and Hindus in the east.
One fellow stepped up and said: No more! Every man shall carry a weapon with him always. Every man shall wear a turban. And every man shall be called Singh.
Sikhs in Canada, a large wealthy group. Sikh police in Canada are allowed to wear their turbans.

Posted by: HelenB | Sep 24 2023 21:29 utc | 190

Sorry, wrong thread! I meant above for non-Ukraine.

Posted by: HelenB | Sep 24 2023 21:30 utc | 191

Sorry, wrong thread! I meant above for non-Ukraine.

Posted by: HelenB | Sep 24 2023 21:30 utc | 192

@ Dr. George W Oprisko 79
[Hiring 3300 more workers at Los Alamos] implies that much of the US nuclear Arsenal is borderline non-functional due to radioactive decay of the fissile material in the “pits”.
This is incorrect. The pits are refurbished at the Pantex plant in Amarillo, Texas. It’s an industrial scale operation. Los Alamos is an R&D facility. Amarillo never stopped operating.
Never thought of this before but Americium is a fitting name for what plutonium decays into.

Posted by: JessDTruth | Sep 24 2023 21:31 utc | 193

@ Dr. George W Oprisko 79
[Hiring 3300 more workers at Los Alamos] implies that much of the US nuclear Arsenal is borderline non-functional due to radioactive decay of the fissile material in the “pits”.
This is incorrect. The pits are refurbished at the Pantex plant in Amarillo, Texas. It’s an industrial scale operation. Los Alamos is an R&D facility. Amarillo never stopped operating.
Never thought of this before but Americium is a fitting name for what plutonium decays into.

Posted by: JessDTruth | Sep 24 2023 21:31 utc | 194

“It is not outlandish” TheNorthernChef@94
That depends on where you live, I suppose.
It is certainly a complete misrepresentation of the historical reality. Its origins lie in the same anti-communist ideology grom the NAZIs and other European fascists all sprung. A propagandist misrepresentation of the Marxist idea that a revolution in western Europe would join up with Russia’s, to signify a Communist plot to invade the west.
There was never any truth in it but there was no end of money to be made out of rationalising ungrounded fears that “Russia is Coming”. Thus laying the foundations of the current Russophobia which is likely to lead to a devastating nuclear and biochemical war.

Posted by: bevin | Sep 24 2023 21:41 utc | 195

“It is not outlandish” TheNorthernChef@94
That depends on where you live, I suppose.
It is certainly a complete misrepresentation of the historical reality. Its origins lie in the same anti-communist ideology grom the NAZIs and other European fascists all sprung. A propagandist misrepresentation of the Marxist idea that a revolution in western Europe would join up with Russia’s, to signify a Communist plot to invade the west.
There was never any truth in it but there was no end of money to be made out of rationalising ungrounded fears that “Russia is Coming”. Thus laying the foundations of the current Russophobia which is likely to lead to a devastating nuclear and biochemical war.

Posted by: bevin | Sep 24 2023 21:41 utc | 196

malenkov@89
1949
Or am I missing something? Like Macmillan’s victory in the UK General Election!!

Posted by: bevin | Sep 24 2023 21:44 utc | 197

malenkov@89
1949
Or am I missing something? Like Macmillan’s victory in the UK General Election!!

Posted by: bevin | Sep 24 2023 21:44 utc | 198

No I didn’t watch because I don’t want to see that disgrace. Hey! Canada is a democracy. The best country in the World according to former PM Chretien (a friend of Trudeau the father). Those Canadian politicians self-appoint God like prerogatives to judge other nations. Once elected the PM of Canada usually acts as a king for the next four years. Canadians don’t complain very loudly if at all. Such a small country (internal market) punching at Russia and China is asking for trouble.
Posted by: Richard L | Sep 24 2023 17:07 utc | 40
Actually Richard, Chretien didn’t make himself very ‘poopalar’ (using petit Jean’s vernacular) with Uncle Sam when he refused to join in with their Iraq war. His position was based on International Law and UN articles as in Canada could only join the US if the action was approved by the UNSC. The Amurican cowpokes had no time for such things like abiding by the law, and they didn’t need Canada for their campaign anyway.
Chretien didn’t have to worry much about the opposition as the Conservatives were engaged in a Hatfield and McCoy style feud pitting right of centre westerners against the ‘progressive’ branch from the east. They split into 2 parties. Thus Jean became king of Canada via the process of diluting the vote in a first past the post system. They who wins the most seats, wins the big chair
As to your other points, I lament..
May I offer the words of a philosopher;
“The great themes of Canadian history are as follows: Keeping the Americans out, keeping the French in, and trying to get the Natives to somehow disappear.”
― Will Ferguson
The greatest failing was, not keeping the Americans out, and neither little Trudeau nor his predecessor Stephen Harper were anywhere close to being able to, nor did they desire to do so. Both sold out Canada’s sovereignty as fast as the $ rolled into the right places.
I lost my Pa tae a German’s gun. A nazi’s gun. He weren’t no Fortunate Son like little Justin and his father, the Right Honourable Pierre Elliot Trudeau, who spent the war in upscale Universities ‘NOT’ fighting nazi’s.
Trudeau the lesser has declared Canada ‘the first postnational country’. Guardian headline “The Canada experiment: is this the world’s first ‘postnational’ country?”
Who authorized him to conduct this experiment? Ex nazi collaborator George Soros or his home girl, and minister of everything whose grandpa ran a newspaper for the third Reich in Ukraine?
What am I suppose to say when I visit my Pa’s grave the next time? Sorry Dad, but our government is now onside with the nazi’s. Yet, somehow this government loudly declares they are on the right side of history! Because, Russians bad, lying about weapons of mass destruction and Al Qaeda in Iraq is goood.
If the West can’t get along with the East and South, can they not simply get a divorce? That’s very ‘poopalar’ in Western societies, courts and enlightened circles. So why not? Not enough prey left to sate the forever hungry?
There is no longer a political party worth getting off the lazy boy to vote for.
Alienation leads to disinterest. Disinterest leads to gadflies like Trudeau the lesser being able to take centre stage and prance around like the king of the loo.
And his main challenger, give me a break..His nic used to be Skippy. Yeah, it’s like that.Also known as the Crypto Kid. Another shade of bullshit that only the young or the desperate caught up in the collective mismanagement and fooled by low interest rates of the Con/Lib collective would place their hopes and dreams with.
These people have no regard whatsoever for small business entrepreneurs btw, they serve the uber rich and wait for their political afterlife to collect their reward miles on this or that corporate board. Unlike that Menendez guy in the US who wanted it all and wanted it now.
Apologies if this seems like a rant. Just out of sorts by little justin and his number 1, Freeland denigrating the memory of Canada’s fathers, brothers in arms and coming out clearly in favor of nazi’s. Their degeneration of Canada’s Veterans, especially ‘our’ Combat Veterans should not be forgiven. Ever.

Posted by: bubbles | Sep 24 2023 21:48 utc | 199

No I didn’t watch because I don’t want to see that disgrace. Hey! Canada is a democracy. The best country in the World according to former PM Chretien (a friend of Trudeau the father). Those Canadian politicians self-appoint God like prerogatives to judge other nations. Once elected the PM of Canada usually acts as a king for the next four years. Canadians don’t complain very loudly if at all. Such a small country (internal market) punching at Russia and China is asking for trouble.
Posted by: Richard L | Sep 24 2023 17:07 utc | 40
Actually Richard, Chretien didn’t make himself very ‘poopalar’ (using petit Jean’s vernacular) with Uncle Sam when he refused to join in with their Iraq war. His position was based on International Law and UN articles as in Canada could only join the US if the action was approved by the UNSC. The Amurican cowpokes had no time for such things like abiding by the law, and they didn’t need Canada for their campaign anyway.
Chretien didn’t have to worry much about the opposition as the Conservatives were engaged in a Hatfield and McCoy style feud pitting right of centre westerners against the ‘progressive’ branch from the east. They split into 2 parties. Thus Jean became king of Canada via the process of diluting the vote in a first past the post system. They who wins the most seats, wins the big chair
As to your other points, I lament..
May I offer the words of a philosopher;
“The great themes of Canadian history are as follows: Keeping the Americans out, keeping the French in, and trying to get the Natives to somehow disappear.”
― Will Ferguson
The greatest failing was, not keeping the Americans out, and neither little Trudeau nor his predecessor Stephen Harper were anywhere close to being able to, nor did they desire to do so. Both sold out Canada’s sovereignty as fast as the $ rolled into the right places.
I lost my Pa tae a German’s gun. A nazi’s gun. He weren’t no Fortunate Son like little Justin and his father, the Right Honourable Pierre Elliot Trudeau, who spent the war in upscale Universities ‘NOT’ fighting nazi’s.
Trudeau the lesser has declared Canada ‘the first postnational country’. Guardian headline “The Canada experiment: is this the world’s first ‘postnational’ country?”
Who authorized him to conduct this experiment? Ex nazi collaborator George Soros or his home girl, and minister of everything whose grandpa ran a newspaper for the third Reich in Ukraine?
What am I suppose to say when I visit my Pa’s grave the next time? Sorry Dad, but our government is now onside with the nazi’s. Yet, somehow this government loudly declares they are on the right side of history! Because, Russians bad, lying about weapons of mass destruction and Al Qaeda in Iraq is goood.
If the West can’t get along with the East and South, can they not simply get a divorce? That’s very ‘poopalar’ in Western societies, courts and enlightened circles. So why not? Not enough prey left to sate the forever hungry?
There is no longer a political party worth getting off the lazy boy to vote for.
Alienation leads to disinterest. Disinterest leads to gadflies like Trudeau the lesser being able to take centre stage and prance around like the king of the loo.
And his main challenger, give me a break..His nic used to be Skippy. Yeah, it’s like that.Also known as the Crypto Kid. Another shade of bullshit that only the young or the desperate caught up in the collective mismanagement and fooled by low interest rates of the Con/Lib collective would place their hopes and dreams with.
These people have no regard whatsoever for small business entrepreneurs btw, they serve the uber rich and wait for their political afterlife to collect their reward miles on this or that corporate board. Unlike that Menendez guy in the US who wanted it all and wanted it now.
Apologies if this seems like a rant. Just out of sorts by little justin and his number 1, Freeland denigrating the memory of Canada’s fathers, brothers in arms and coming out clearly in favor of nazi’s. Their degeneration of Canada’s Veterans, especially ‘our’ Combat Veterans should not be forgiven. Ever.

Posted by: bubbles | Sep 24 2023 21:48 utc | 200