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September 24, 2023
Ukraine Open Thread 2023-225
Only for news & views directly related to the Ukraine conflict. The current open thread for other issues is here. Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.
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Posted by: kupkee | Sep 24 2023 17:45 utc | 50 Posted by: unimperator | Sep 24 2023 17:49 utc | 101 Posted by: kupkee | Sep 24 2023 17:45 utc | 50 Posted by: unimperator | Sep 24 2023 17:49 utc | 102 Time will tell.. Posted by: 600w | Sep 24 2023 17:51 utc | 105 Time will tell.. Posted by: 600w | Sep 24 2023 17:51 utc | 106 FACT: Hundreds of thousands Nazi, SS men and women and their supporters fled Europe after WW2 to USA, Canada, Central and South America. Posted by: AI | Sep 24 2023 17:56 utc | 107 FACT: Hundreds of thousands Nazi, SS men and women and their supporters fled Europe after WW2 to USA, Canada, Central and South America. Posted by: AI | Sep 24 2023 17:56 utc | 108
How could Russia hope to accomplish this, given the near-complete media blackout of all things Russian? Posted by: malenkov | Sep 24 2023 18:05 utc | 109
How could Russia hope to accomplish this, given the near-complete media blackout of all things Russian? Posted by: malenkov | Sep 24 2023 18:05 utc | 110 NoVa with assist of GOOG has blocked all strana (.ua, .news, .*) domains today. They must be publishing something har. har. unflattering about UA’s model democratic regime. Posted by: sln2002 | Sep 24 2023 18:07 utc | 111 NoVa with assist of GOOG has blocked all strana (.ua, .news, .*) domains today. They must be publishing something har. har. unflattering about UA’s model democratic regime. Posted by: sln2002 | Sep 24 2023 18:07 utc | 112 “I found that item of particular interest: it made me wonder whether this measure might lead to abuse or be retained even if the SMO should end.” Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2023 18:11 utc | 113 “I found that item of particular interest: it made me wonder whether this measure might lead to abuse or be retained even if the SMO should end.” Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2023 18:11 utc | 114 @ eighthman §35 & Trubind1 §39: Posted by: John Marks | Sep 24 2023 18:14 utc | 115 @ eighthman §35 & Trubind1 §39: Posted by: John Marks | Sep 24 2023 18:14 utc | 116 RE: Posted by: sln2002 | Sep 24 2023 18:07 utc | 57 Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2023 18:18 utc | 117 RE: Posted by: sln2002 | Sep 24 2023 18:07 utc | 57 Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2023 18:18 utc | 118 WTF has gone wrong with Canadian people? Posted by: Moonraker | Sep 24 2023 18:24 utc | 119 WTF has gone wrong with Canadian people? Posted by: Moonraker | Sep 24 2023 18:24 utc | 120 @ bevin | Sep 24 2023 17:40 utc | 47 Posted by: too scents | Sep 24 2023 18:26 utc | 121 @ bevin | Sep 24 2023 17:40 utc | 47 Posted by: too scents | Sep 24 2023 18:26 utc | 122 We wrote that the Office of the President will convince everyone that the counter-offensive will not stop with the mud, so as not to put an end to the Azov operation. Posted by: Acco Hengst | Sep 24 2023 18:33 utc | 123 We wrote that the Office of the President will convince everyone that the counter-offensive will not stop with the mud, so as not to put an end to the Azov operation. Posted by: Acco Hengst | Sep 24 2023 18:33 utc | 124 RE: Posted by: John Marks | Sep 24 2023 18:14 utc | 59 Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2023 18:37 utc | 125 RE: Posted by: John Marks | Sep 24 2023 18:14 utc | 59 Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2023 18:37 utc | 126 In related G7 version control tracking, this Reuters 21 Oct 2022 report (ie. after Donbas referendums) synchronized the pace of Anglo-american selective “war crime” accounting with Zelensk* Lugano “recovery and reconstruction” billing, Factbox: Is the Kakhovka dam in Ukraine about to be blown
Let’s pretend that gov.ua cutting off water supply to civilians in 2014 was not a violation of the precious UN Charter.
A timely addition to the Zero Days (2016) documentary
Posted by: sln2002 | Sep 24 2023 18:43 utc | 127 In related G7 version control tracking, this Reuters 21 Oct 2022 report (ie. after Donbas referendums) synchronized the pace of Anglo-american selective “war crime” accounting with Zelensk* Lugano “recovery and reconstruction” billing, Factbox: Is the Kakhovka dam in Ukraine about to be blown
Let’s pretend that gov.ua cutting off water supply to civilians in 2014 was not a violation of the precious UN Charter.
A timely addition to the Zero Days (2016) documentary
Posted by: sln2002 | Sep 24 2023 18:43 utc | 128 This shits getting embarrassing. Russia should be lucky Ukraine is only getting hand me downs and fighting with restrictions. Posted by: Zuludread | Sep 24 2023 18:48 utc | 129 This shits getting embarrassing. Russia should be lucky Ukraine is only getting hand me downs and fighting with restrictions. Posted by: Zuludread | Sep 24 2023 18:48 utc | 130 Re: “not Stacey Adams, which is an opportunity missed.” Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2023 19:00 utc | 131 Re: “not Stacey Adams, which is an opportunity missed.” Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2023 19:00 utc | 132 Well, what do you know. Nikol Pashinyan, PM of Armenia has a Canadian passport. Received only recently. Posted by: unimperator | Sep 24 2023 19:10 utc | 133 Well, what do you know. Nikol Pashinyan, PM of Armenia has a Canadian passport. Received only recently. Posted by: unimperator | Sep 24 2023 19:10 utc | 134 Was reading updated Russian reports in TASS. Many targets, more depots hit ect. Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2023 19:16 utc | 135 Was reading updated Russian reports in TASS. Many targets, more depots hit ect. Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2023 19:16 utc | 136 Russia shouldn’t be in Ukraine in the first place. They thought it would be so easy to just steamroll Ukraine. I mean, They let a submarine get destroyed by a country with no navy. It’s just a tad bit embarrassing. Big bad Russia getting punched in the mouth by little Ole Ukraine. And it’s becoming the norm. Soon, Crimea will be untenable for Russia. Posted by: Zuludread | Sep 24 2023 19:16 utc | 137 Russia shouldn’t be in Ukraine in the first place. They thought it would be so easy to just steamroll Ukraine. I mean, They let a submarine get destroyed by a country with no navy. It’s just a tad bit embarrassing. Big bad Russia getting punched in the mouth by little Ole Ukraine. And it’s becoming the norm. Soon, Crimea will be untenable for Russia. Posted by: Zuludread | Sep 24 2023 19:16 utc | 138 don’t bother replying to the troll… ain’t worth it.. Posted by: james | Sep 24 2023 19:19 utc | 139 don’t bother replying to the troll… ain’t worth it.. Posted by: james | Sep 24 2023 19:19 utc | 140 RE: Posted by: Zuludread | Sep 24 2023 19:16 utc | 70 Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2023 19:21 utc | 141 RE: Posted by: Zuludread | Sep 24 2023 19:16 utc | 70 Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2023 19:21 utc | 142 RE: Posted by: unimperator | Sep 24 2023 19:10 utc | 68 Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2023 19:33 utc | 143 RE: Posted by: unimperator | Sep 24 2023 19:10 utc | 68 Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2023 19:33 utc | 144 The simple fact that Ukrainian apologists are blind about is that Ukraine has the worst government on Planet Earth. Posted by: Eighthman | Sep 24 2023 19:35 utc | 145 The simple fact that Ukrainian apologists are blind about is that Ukraine has the worst government on Planet Earth. Posted by: Eighthman | Sep 24 2023 19:35 utc | 146 Gunther Fehlinger that crazy NATO rep for expansion, has done the orwellian speak again. Posted by: hankster | Sep 24 2023 19:38 utc | 147 Gunther Fehlinger that crazy NATO rep for expansion, has done the orwellian speak again. Posted by: hankster | Sep 24 2023 19:38 utc | 148 Tandil Ultra Plus | Sep 24 2023 17:27 utc | 44 Posted by: OttoE | Sep 24 2023 19:41 utc | 149 Tandil Ultra Plus | Sep 24 2023 17:27 utc | 44 Posted by: OttoE | Sep 24 2023 19:41 utc | 150 Moonraker@61 Posted by: bevin | Sep 24 2023 19:45 utc | 151 Moonraker@61 Posted by: bevin | Sep 24 2023 19:45 utc | 152 @ Trubind1, §64: Posted by: John Marks | Sep 24 2023 19:49 utc | 153 @ Trubind1, §64: Posted by: John Marks | Sep 24 2023 19:49 utc | 154 This is important! Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 24 2023 19:50 utc | 155 This is important! Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 24 2023 19:50 utc | 156 To “b’s” commenters. Posted by: English Outsider | Sep 24 2023 19:53 utc | 157 To “b’s” commenters. Posted by: English Outsider | Sep 24 2023 19:53 utc | 158 to the poster of #16 Posted by: heavymetal101 | Sep 24 2023 19:55 utc | 159 to the poster of #16 Posted by: heavymetal101 | Sep 24 2023 19:55 utc | 160 @bevin | Sep 24 2023 13:41 utc | 4
So according to Canadian logic, the Parliament must be filled with truckers. Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 24 2023 19:56 utc | 161 @bevin | Sep 24 2023 13:41 utc | 4
So according to Canadian logic, the Parliament must be filled with truckers. Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 24 2023 19:56 utc | 162 English Outsider@80……Lang favoured carpet bombing Hezbollah and letting God sort it out…….talk about jumping the shark….he’s in the right place. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Sep 24 2023 19:58 utc | 163 English Outsider@80……Lang favoured carpet bombing Hezbollah and letting God sort it out…….talk about jumping the shark….he’s in the right place. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Sep 24 2023 19:58 utc | 164 Posted by: Moonraker | Sep 24 2023 18:24 utc | 61 Posted by: heavymetal101 | Sep 24 2023 20:11 utc | 167 Posted by: Moonraker | Sep 24 2023 18:24 utc | 61 Posted by: heavymetal101 | Sep 24 2023 20:11 utc | 168 RE: Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 24 2023 19:50 utc | 79 Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2023 20:13 utc | 169 RE: Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 24 2023 19:50 utc | 79 Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2023 20:13 utc | 170 RE: “As one poster said, the remedy for 1984 is 1776, which was the model for 1789 and 1917.” Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2023 20:23 utc | 171 RE: “As one poster said, the remedy for 1984 is 1776, which was the model for 1789 and 1917.” Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2023 20:23 utc | 172 @ Moonraker, §61: Posted by: John Marks | Sep 24 2023 20:26 utc | 173 @ Moonraker, §61: Posted by: John Marks | Sep 24 2023 20:26 utc | 174
1776? I’d much rather have 1789 or 1917. Or, maybe even better, 1959. Posted by: malenkov | Sep 24 2023 20:31 utc | 175
1776? I’d much rather have 1789 or 1917. Or, maybe even better, 1959. Posted by: malenkov | Sep 24 2023 20:31 utc | 176 @ Norwegian | Sep 24 2023 19:56 utc | 82 Posted by: malenkov | Sep 24 2023 20:35 utc | 177 @ Norwegian | Sep 24 2023 19:56 utc | 82 Posted by: malenkov | Sep 24 2023 20:35 utc | 178 @ English Outsider, §80: Posted by: John Marks | Sep 24 2023 20:35 utc | 179 @ English Outsider, §80: Posted by: John Marks | Sep 24 2023 20:35 utc | 180 Trubind1 | Sep 24 2023 20:13 utc | 86 Posted by: paddy | Sep 24 2023 20:41 utc | 181 Trubind1 | Sep 24 2023 20:13 utc | 86 Posted by: paddy | Sep 24 2023 20:41 utc | 182 in re: “even though smartphones didn’t exist back then” Posted by: sln2002 | Sep 24 2023 20:50 utc | 183 in re: “even though smartphones didn’t exist back then” Posted by: sln2002 | Sep 24 2023 20:50 utc | 184 It is only a matter of time until western historybooks explain, that Hitler was just defending Germany from a (planned) Russian invasion Posted by: TheNorthernChef | Sep 24 2023 21:06 utc | 185 It is only a matter of time until western historybooks explain, that Hitler was just defending Germany from a (planned) Russian invasion Posted by: TheNorthernChef | Sep 24 2023 21:06 utc | 186 Posted by: Englishman | Sep 24 2023 17:41 utc | 49 Posted by: Milites | Sep 24 2023 21:13 utc | 187 Posted by: Englishman | Sep 24 2023 17:41 utc | 49 Posted by: Milites | Sep 24 2023 21:13 utc | 188 Read Sikh history. The entire development of the Sikh religion is about an area in northern India stuck in the middle of wars between warring Muslims on the West and Hindus in the east. Posted by: HelenB | Sep 24 2023 21:29 utc | 189 Read Sikh history. The entire development of the Sikh religion is about an area in northern India stuck in the middle of wars between warring Muslims on the West and Hindus in the east. Posted by: HelenB | Sep 24 2023 21:29 utc | 190 @ Dr. George W Oprisko 79 Posted by: JessDTruth | Sep 24 2023 21:31 utc | 193 @ Dr. George W Oprisko 79 Posted by: JessDTruth | Sep 24 2023 21:31 utc | 194 “It is not outlandish” TheNorthernChef@94 Posted by: bevin | Sep 24 2023 21:41 utc | 195 “It is not outlandish” TheNorthernChef@94 Posted by: bevin | Sep 24 2023 21:41 utc | 196 malenkov@89 Posted by: bevin | Sep 24 2023 21:44 utc | 197 malenkov@89 Posted by: bevin | Sep 24 2023 21:44 utc | 198 No I didn’t watch because I don’t want to see that disgrace. Hey! Canada is a democracy. The best country in the World according to former PM Chretien (a friend of Trudeau the father). Those Canadian politicians self-appoint God like prerogatives to judge other nations. Once elected the PM of Canada usually acts as a king for the next four years. Canadians don’t complain very loudly if at all. Such a small country (internal market) punching at Russia and China is asking for trouble. Posted by: bubbles | Sep 24 2023 21:48 utc | 199 No I didn’t watch because I don’t want to see that disgrace. Hey! Canada is a democracy. The best country in the World according to former PM Chretien (a friend of Trudeau the father). Those Canadian politicians self-appoint God like prerogatives to judge other nations. Once elected the PM of Canada usually acts as a king for the next four years. Canadians don’t complain very loudly if at all. Such a small country (internal market) punching at Russia and China is asking for trouble. Posted by: bubbles | Sep 24 2023 21:48 utc | 200 |
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