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September 23, 2023
Ukraine Open Thread 2023-223
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Posted by: spindz | Sep 24 2023 5:51 utc | 92
You’re right there are no Nato warships in the Black Sea (AFAIK) but drones and speed boats can be brought over the land or Danube. The sea drones are an advantage to Nato because Nato has targets they can take pot shots at freely with drones while Nato has no ship targets for Russia to hit in the Black Sea which is what their fleet was designed to do.
Either way it’s still reasonable that the strikes in Crimea have been intensified with more open use of US recon aircraft providing guidance as a response to the destroyed Nato brigades lost in the summer counter-offensive and Ukraine’s general predicament, which probably won’t recover. So they use strikes to try to pressure Russia to “make peace”. But they are mistaken with this thought.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 24 2023 7:39 utc | 201
Posted by: spindz | Sep 24 2023 5:51 utc | 92
You’re right there are no Nato warships in the Black Sea (AFAIK) but drones and speed boats can be brought over the land or Danube. The sea drones are an advantage to Nato because Nato has targets they can take pot shots at freely with drones while Nato has no ship targets for Russia to hit in the Black Sea which is what their fleet was designed to do.
Either way it’s still reasonable that the strikes in Crimea have been intensified with more open use of US recon aircraft providing guidance as a response to the destroyed Nato brigades lost in the summer counter-offensive and Ukraine’s general predicament, which probably won’t recover. So they use strikes to try to pressure Russia to “make peace”. But they are mistaken with this thought.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 24 2023 7:39 utc | 202
Posted by: john brewster | Sep 24 2023 5:08 utc | 87
i don’t trust Sachs cause he still talks out of both sides of his mouth about Russia (if only i could have been allowed to carry out the economic genocide the way i wanted to things would have been all better), but I welcome his opposition to the Ukraine War now, as well as Mearsheimer’s and RFK jr’s. there are schisms in the factions among the powers that be, fault lines that may lead to the collapse of US imperial policy (I hope).
Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 24 2023 7:39 utc | 203
Posted by: john brewster | Sep 24 2023 5:08 utc | 87
i don’t trust Sachs cause he still talks out of both sides of his mouth about Russia (if only i could have been allowed to carry out the economic genocide the way i wanted to things would have been all better), but I welcome his opposition to the Ukraine War now, as well as Mearsheimer’s and RFK jr’s. there are schisms in the factions among the powers that be, fault lines that may lead to the collapse of US imperial policy (I hope).
Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 24 2023 7:39 utc | 204
Lavrov has done a few interviews recently and explained the Ukraine issue. For all the recent UN issues he never did reiterate the Soviets right to suppress the resurgance of nazism any way it sees fit as per UN charter.
Lavrov explains that the Russia as the successor state to the USSR had ‘agreed’ with Ukraine on its leaving the Union, and that this agreement was made possible by Ukraine’s Declaration of Independence and its original Constitution.
Recall that these agreements are also why Ukraine does not have nuclear weapons. So you can see that Ukraine’s independence came with provisions that Russia had then agreed to.
Change who you are at a fundamental level, going from a state the recognizes and protects all the peoples inhabiting the broader territory of Ukraine, including various Russians, etc., and changing into some kind of ‘Ukrainian supremacism’, means that Russia’s role in protecting Russians must be re-invoked, as it was already contemplated in Ukraine’s Declaration of Independence and first and only legitimate Constitution.
This Ukraine isn’t the Ukraine whose independence, sovereignty, and territorial boundaries that Russia recognized in 1991
Posted by: hankster | Sep 24 2023 8:02 utc | 205
Lavrov has done a few interviews recently and explained the Ukraine issue. For all the recent UN issues he never did reiterate the Soviets right to suppress the resurgance of nazism any way it sees fit as per UN charter.
Lavrov explains that the Russia as the successor state to the USSR had ‘agreed’ with Ukraine on its leaving the Union, and that this agreement was made possible by Ukraine’s Declaration of Independence and its original Constitution.
Recall that these agreements are also why Ukraine does not have nuclear weapons. So you can see that Ukraine’s independence came with provisions that Russia had then agreed to.
Change who you are at a fundamental level, going from a state the recognizes and protects all the peoples inhabiting the broader territory of Ukraine, including various Russians, etc., and changing into some kind of ‘Ukrainian supremacism’, means that Russia’s role in protecting Russians must be re-invoked, as it was already contemplated in Ukraine’s Declaration of Independence and first and only legitimate Constitution.
This Ukraine isn’t the Ukraine whose independence, sovereignty, and territorial boundaries that Russia recognized in 1991
Posted by: hankster | Sep 24 2023 8:02 utc | 206
Showflake @ 99
I am russian and live London – because the life is much better then with Putin. btw – so funny you all se trolls everywhere – but you can’t see how Putin takes you all deep from behind 🙂
Must be hard to piss on your grandfather’s grave from so far away.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 24 2023 8:28 utc | 207
Showflake @ 99
I am russian and live London – because the life is much better then with Putin. btw – so funny you all se trolls everywhere – but you can’t see how Putin takes you all deep from behind 🙂
Must be hard to piss on your grandfather’s grave from so far away.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 24 2023 8:28 utc | 208
War until the last ukrainian
https://t.me/btr80/10822
Posted by: Crazy idiot | Sep 24 2023 8:32 utc | 209
War until the last ukrainian
https://t.me/btr80/10822
Posted by: Crazy idiot | Sep 24 2023 8:32 utc | 210
@ 6 https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/09/ukraine-open-thread-2023-223.html?cid=6a00d8341c640e53ef02c8d39e1dff200b#comment-6a00d8341c640e53ef02c8d39e1dff200b
You’re forgetting the CAP (Common Agricultural Policy)
This is the lunatic scheme which dictates that millions of tonnes of perfectly good food are destroyed, year on year, or stored in vast (butter) mountains or (wine) lakes, all in order to keep prices artificially high and protect the farmers of the EU from becoming victims of their own success. I’m sure if Ukraine were to be ‘granted’ membership to this corrupt, anti-democratic, proto-fascist, festering shit show of an organisation, the result would just be more produce ploughed back into the ground, bigger lakes and mountains, contented newly European Ukrainian farmers that can still make a reasonable profit on what they produce, but now under the yolk of EU micro-management in the form of Health and Safety/Environmental diktats from on high. Naturally, all the while the global south will continue to starve.
The major downside for Ukrainian agriculture would be that the smaller independent farms will be subsumed by the enormous, environmentally destructive ‘agribusinesses’ so beloved of the EU mandarins in Brussels. These enormous enterprises can easily absorb the cost of the crippling red tape and pointless measures that the EU love to use to tie smaller enterprises up in knots so the larger ones can grab their share of the market when they inevitably fail. Of course, when it comes to farming, most of these are purportedly designed to protect the environment (ironic when you consider the environmental destruction wreaked by these huge mono-culture arable super farms).
Then, there is the way the the Dutch farmers have been shafted by their EU/WEF aligned bosses, again due to purported environmental factors, so, in the case of Ukraine joining the EU (and NATO for that matter) this would be very much a case of ‘be careful what you wish for’.
Posted by: SirKeef | Sep 24 2023 8:50 utc | 211
@ 6 https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/09/ukraine-open-thread-2023-223.html?cid=6a00d8341c640e53ef02c8d39e1dff200b#comment-6a00d8341c640e53ef02c8d39e1dff200b
You’re forgetting the CAP (Common Agricultural Policy)
This is the lunatic scheme which dictates that millions of tonnes of perfectly good food are destroyed, year on year, or stored in vast (butter) mountains or (wine) lakes, all in order to keep prices artificially high and protect the farmers of the EU from becoming victims of their own success. I’m sure if Ukraine were to be ‘granted’ membership to this corrupt, anti-democratic, proto-fascist, festering shit show of an organisation, the result would just be more produce ploughed back into the ground, bigger lakes and mountains, contented newly European Ukrainian farmers that can still make a reasonable profit on what they produce, but now under the yolk of EU micro-management in the form of Health and Safety/Environmental diktats from on high. Naturally, all the while the global south will continue to starve.
The major downside for Ukrainian agriculture would be that the smaller independent farms will be subsumed by the enormous, environmentally destructive ‘agribusinesses’ so beloved of the EU mandarins in Brussels. These enormous enterprises can easily absorb the cost of the crippling red tape and pointless measures that the EU love to use to tie smaller enterprises up in knots so the larger ones can grab their share of the market when they inevitably fail. Of course, when it comes to farming, most of these are purportedly designed to protect the environment (ironic when you consider the environmental destruction wreaked by these huge mono-culture arable super farms).
Then, there is the way the the Dutch farmers have been shafted by their EU/WEF aligned bosses, again due to purported environmental factors, so, in the case of Ukraine joining the EU (and NATO for that matter) this would be very much a case of ‘be careful what you wish for’.
Posted by: SirKeef | Sep 24 2023 8:50 utc | 212
Posted by: too scents | Sep 24 2023 4:23 utc | 84
Yes of course, with monopolies and Intellectual-property rights on seeds, insecticides and herbicides , the multinational agribusiness-allied companies will do best.
Normal farming of the latifundia-like farms will be simple low-margin work as long as the EU is allowed to keep its farms. Remember the Netherlands reducing farm-products last year for the reduction of greenhouse gases? Funny how this policy also benefits US farmers; less food for growing populations means the US gets more money.
If Brazil, India, Russia,Argentina ,Africa etc all manage to kick out American agribusiness rentiers then food should become much cheaper .
I just read that the milk production in Australia is at the lowest level in thirty years and consumers are screaming about the inordinately high prices we now have to pay for dairy products here.
Posted by: Wondrous | Sep 24 2023 8:52 utc | 213
Posted by: too scents | Sep 24 2023 4:23 utc | 84
Yes of course, with monopolies and Intellectual-property rights on seeds, insecticides and herbicides , the multinational agribusiness-allied companies will do best.
Normal farming of the latifundia-like farms will be simple low-margin work as long as the EU is allowed to keep its farms. Remember the Netherlands reducing farm-products last year for the reduction of greenhouse gases? Funny how this policy also benefits US farmers; less food for growing populations means the US gets more money.
If Brazil, India, Russia,Argentina ,Africa etc all manage to kick out American agribusiness rentiers then food should become much cheaper .
I just read that the milk production in Australia is at the lowest level in thirty years and consumers are screaming about the inordinately high prices we now have to pay for dairy products here.
Posted by: Wondrous | Sep 24 2023 8:52 utc | 214
Russian black sea fleet is not supposed to be in the Atlantic, anyway before reaching Atlantic Sea shOULD sail the Mediterranean Sea.
The problem for Russia is they cannot replace the sunk/damaged ships.
AFAIK, black see, being a small closed sea, under the eyes of Russia, is the worst place to put a carrier in.
Carriers could be the next wonderwaffe in modern wars.
Posted by: spindz | Sep 24 2023 5:51 utc | 92
Posted by: Mario | Sep 24 2023 9:00 utc | 215
Russian black sea fleet is not supposed to be in the Atlantic, anyway before reaching Atlantic Sea shOULD sail the Mediterranean Sea.
The problem for Russia is they cannot replace the sunk/damaged ships.
AFAIK, black see, being a small closed sea, under the eyes of Russia, is the worst place to put a carrier in.
Carriers could be the next wonderwaffe in modern wars.
Posted by: spindz | Sep 24 2023 5:51 utc | 92
Posted by: Mario | Sep 24 2023 9:00 utc | 216
Showflake @ 99
Great, stay in your cherished London, see how much British “styled” democracy can benefit you and how long London can sustain before either sinking into ocean or into bankruptcy.
Posted by: KitaySupporter | Sep 24 2023 9:03 utc | 217
Showflake @ 99
Great, stay in your cherished London, see how much British “styled” democracy can benefit you and how long London can sustain before either sinking into ocean or into bankruptcy.
Posted by: KitaySupporter | Sep 24 2023 9:03 utc | 218
A lot of “Russians” in London are the “Russians” that left Russia after a stop was put to their kleptomania…
Posted by: Brandon | Sep 24 2023 9:07 utc | 219
A lot of “Russians” in London are the “Russians” that left Russia after a stop was put to their kleptomania…
Posted by: Brandon | Sep 24 2023 9:07 utc | 220
Showflake @ 99
I am russian and live London – because the life is much better then with Putin. btw – so funny you all se trolls everywhere – but you can’t see how Putin takes you all deep from behind 🙂
Really? Enjoying life in Sadiq Khan’s Londonistan with its ethic drug gangs, endemic gun and knife crime, mass shoplifting forays (usual suspects) into London’s once world class West end shops, now a place marred by violence, drugs, stabbings? Homeless army vets on the streets whilst illegal immigrants (courtesy of our WEF ‘sponsors’) are given generous benefits handouts and put up in 4/5 star hotels? All the decent people, shops and businesses are moving out, leaving the place to the feral scumbags that are slowly but surely dragging this once great city to its knees. I thank my lucky stars every day that I got out when I still could.
Russia may have her problems, but I’m sure Putin would never willingly preside over such a spectacular clusterfuck in the same way that our WEF-aligned local and national ‘authorities’ in the UK (and other European cities where the exact same thing is happening) are happily doing right now.
Posted by: SirKeef | Sep 24 2023 9:13 utc | 221
Showflake @ 99
I am russian and live London – because the life is much better then with Putin. btw – so funny you all se trolls everywhere – but you can’t see how Putin takes you all deep from behind 🙂
Really? Enjoying life in Sadiq Khan’s Londonistan with its ethic drug gangs, endemic gun and knife crime, mass shoplifting forays (usual suspects) into London’s once world class West end shops, now a place marred by violence, drugs, stabbings? Homeless army vets on the streets whilst illegal immigrants (courtesy of our WEF ‘sponsors’) are given generous benefits handouts and put up in 4/5 star hotels? All the decent people, shops and businesses are moving out, leaving the place to the feral scumbags that are slowly but surely dragging this once great city to its knees. I thank my lucky stars every day that I got out when I still could.
Russia may have her problems, but I’m sure Putin would never willingly preside over such a spectacular clusterfuck in the same way that our WEF-aligned local and national ‘authorities’ in the UK (and other European cities where the exact same thing is happening) are happily doing right now.
Posted by: SirKeef | Sep 24 2023 9:13 utc | 222
Que diable allait-il faire dans cette galère?
According to the US Army quoted by the WSJ,
https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/russias-army-learns-from-its-mistakes-in-ukraine-a6b2eb4?mod=hp_lead_pos1
Russia has changed its strategy and embarked on a war of attrition, trying to wear down both Ukraine and the Western countries that support it.
According to James Hecker, Commander of the US Air Force in Europe, there are many areas in which the Russian army has adapted quite well.
That’s one explanation, but it’s hardly consistent with claims of a post-Soviet army incompetence. (The Surovikin defense line began construction as early as summer 2022. And whats about Lancet or 500 lb glidebomb)
There could be another explanation. Another conspiracy theory….
What if the Russian “Scapin” had simply gone to the maximum of deception to drag “Géronte”(alias Nato)into the sack that Ukraine as a whole has become?
What’s new Doc? Molière!
Les Fourberies de Scapin
acte III, scène2
…..
(Géronte met doucement la tête hors du sac, et aperçoit la fourberie de Scapin)
[…]
Ah ! infâme ! ah ! traître ! ah ! scélérat ! C’est ainsi que tu m’assassines ?
Posted by: La Bastille | Sep 24 2023 9:21 utc | 223
Que diable allait-il faire dans cette galère?
According to the US Army quoted by the WSJ,
https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/russias-army-learns-from-its-mistakes-in-ukraine-a6b2eb4?mod=hp_lead_pos1
Russia has changed its strategy and embarked on a war of attrition, trying to wear down both Ukraine and the Western countries that support it.
According to James Hecker, Commander of the US Air Force in Europe, there are many areas in which the Russian army has adapted quite well.
That’s one explanation, but it’s hardly consistent with claims of a post-Soviet army incompetence. (The Surovikin defense line began construction as early as summer 2022. And whats about Lancet or 500 lb glidebomb)
There could be another explanation. Another conspiracy theory….
What if the Russian “Scapin” had simply gone to the maximum of deception to drag “Géronte”(alias Nato)into the sack that Ukraine as a whole has become?
What’s new Doc? Molière!
Les Fourberies de Scapin
acte III, scène2
…..
(Géronte met doucement la tête hors du sac, et aperçoit la fourberie de Scapin)
[…]
Ah ! infâme ! ah ! traître ! ah ! scélérat ! C’est ainsi que tu m’assassines ?
Posted by: La Bastille | Sep 24 2023 9:21 utc | 224
SG | Sep 23 2023 21:40 utc | 39
Angela Merkel was the single biggest disgrace that happened to Germany and Europe in the last 25 years. Merkel backstabbed Kohl. Merkel put Von der Leyen where she is now. A disgrace from start to finish.
Don’t forget her role in the Navalny “case”, it was an anti-Russian media campaign created and supported by Merkel. She is the one who ruined our relations with Moscow. Paradoxically, she was a supporter of NS2 – one area where she favored German economic interests over transatlantic subservience.
Posted by: grunzt | Sep 24 2023 9:24 utc | 225
SG | Sep 23 2023 21:40 utc | 39
Angela Merkel was the single biggest disgrace that happened to Germany and Europe in the last 25 years. Merkel backstabbed Kohl. Merkel put Von der Leyen where she is now. A disgrace from start to finish.
Don’t forget her role in the Navalny “case”, it was an anti-Russian media campaign created and supported by Merkel. She is the one who ruined our relations with Moscow. Paradoxically, she was a supporter of NS2 – one area where she favored German economic interests over transatlantic subservience.
Posted by: grunzt | Sep 24 2023 9:24 utc | 226
What’s new Doc? Molière!
……………..And for those who don’t know, “Les Fourberies de Scapin” is a satire of the old regime, dying and suffocating under its accumulated wealth, and which, unwilling to accept the dynamism of the new generation, ends up getting beaten up!
Posted by: La Bastille | Sep 24 2023 9:30 utc | 227
What’s new Doc? Molière!
……………..And for those who don’t know, “Les Fourberies de Scapin” is a satire of the old regime, dying and suffocating under its accumulated wealth, and which, unwilling to accept the dynamism of the new generation, ends up getting beaten up!
Posted by: La Bastille | Sep 24 2023 9:30 utc | 228
Er, didn’t the cowardly Russians who let the USSA flout their red lines, shoot down a Seppo drone a few month back?
Posted by: Squeeth | Sep 24 2023 9:31 utc | 229
Er, didn’t the cowardly Russians who let the USSA flout their red lines, shoot down a Seppo drone a few month back?
Posted by: Squeeth | Sep 24 2023 9:31 utc | 230
@ Posted by: SirKeef | Sep 24 2023 9:13 utc | 111
London’s always been a shitehole. This is because it is full of londoners. Still, mustn’t grumble, it keeps them off the streets round here. ;O)
Posted by: Squeeth | Sep 24 2023 9:35 utc | 231
@ Posted by: SirKeef | Sep 24 2023 9:13 utc | 111
London’s always been a shitehole. This is because it is full of londoners. Still, mustn’t grumble, it keeps them off the streets round here. ;O)
Posted by: Squeeth | Sep 24 2023 9:35 utc | 232
Anyone know if there are western military ships, particularly UK or USA, in the Black Sea from before the SMO stuck in Romanian and Bulgarian NATO ports?
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 24 2023 9:38 utc | 233
Anyone know if there are western military ships, particularly UK or USA, in the Black Sea from before the SMO stuck in Romanian and Bulgarian NATO ports?
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 24 2023 9:38 utc | 234
Apropos Nato stooges fighting in Ukraine, has anyone noticed an unusual increase in deaths and injuries in Nato military forces from “road accidents” and “sudden illnesses”?
Posted by: Squeeth | Sep 24 2023 9:39 utc | 235
Apropos Nato stooges fighting in Ukraine, has anyone noticed an unusual increase in deaths and injuries in Nato military forces from “road accidents” and “sudden illnesses”?
Posted by: Squeeth | Sep 24 2023 9:39 utc | 236
About Merkel….
@ grunzt | Sep 24 2023 9:24 utc | 113
I disagree with many of Angela Merkel’s critics. Recent history proves that she is far from being the worst….
After all, she was only the chancellor of a coalition, surrounded by all those who turned out to be pure agents of foreigners, truly arrogant warmongers inflated with Western suprematism.
A very good read on the genesis of our rulers.
https://sonar21.com/what-is-wrong-with-the-western-political-class/
Posted by: La Bastille | Sep 24 2023 9:40 utc | 237
About Merkel….
@ grunzt | Sep 24 2023 9:24 utc | 113
I disagree with many of Angela Merkel’s critics. Recent history proves that she is far from being the worst….
After all, she was only the chancellor of a coalition, surrounded by all those who turned out to be pure agents of foreigners, truly arrogant warmongers inflated with Western suprematism.
A very good read on the genesis of our rulers.
https://sonar21.com/what-is-wrong-with-the-western-political-class/
Posted by: La Bastille | Sep 24 2023 9:40 utc | 238
The head of the Ukrainian Army’s Main Intelligence Directorate Kirill Budanov has warned that M1A1 Abrams tanks set to be delivered by the United States next week may not last long in combat unless reserved for use in very specific kinds of operations. If the American tanks are deployed “on the front line and just in a combined arms fight, they will not live very long on the battlefield,” he stressed, adding that they should instead be reserved for “very specific, well-crafted” breakthrough operations.
“>https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/leo2-challenger2-abrams-last-long
In other words, Budanov says don’t try to use M1 Abrams tanks without paving the way with a red carpet. And who’s going to pave the way with a red carpet?
New footage from the frontlines in Ukraine has shown Russian Lancet drone strikes to neutralise two German made Leopard tanks in Ukraine’s Kupyansk region. The Russian Defence Ministry on September 22 reported that strikes by the country’s western military group neutralised the tanks and three other vehicles, with the commander of the brigade responsible confirming that both Leopards were neutralised at 8am that day. The tanks referred two were older Leopard 1s, although newer Leopard 2s including cutting edge Leopard 2A6 variants have also been destroyed in numbers during Ukraine’s attempted offensives since early June. The Leopard 1s’ destruction came as part of broader strikes by the western military group on Ukrainian forces near the settlements of Artemovka, Sinkovka, Berestovoe and Ivanovka in the Lugansk and Kharkiv regions.
The release of footage from Lancet drones showing the targeting of Ukrainian assets has become increasing common, with a strike earlier in the week shown to have neutralised a Ukrainian MiG-29 fighter jet by striking it directly through its cockpit from 80km away. The drones have succeeded Iranian supplied Shahed 136 drones to become the most feared Russian assets in the theatre and the country’s primary strike aircraft in Ukraine. Their potency has increased as Ukrainian air defences have simultaneously become increasingly depleted, with Soviet era stocks of surface to air missiles running short and replenishments delivered by NATO members falling far short of keeping up with expenditure rates.
“>https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/footage-lancet-two-leopards
Lancets are very powerful for their size, a single one can neutralize a Leopard.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 24 2023 9:49 utc | 239
The head of the Ukrainian Army’s Main Intelligence Directorate Kirill Budanov has warned that M1A1 Abrams tanks set to be delivered by the United States next week may not last long in combat unless reserved for use in very specific kinds of operations. If the American tanks are deployed “on the front line and just in a combined arms fight, they will not live very long on the battlefield,” he stressed, adding that they should instead be reserved for “very specific, well-crafted” breakthrough operations.
“>https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/leo2-challenger2-abrams-last-long
In other words, Budanov says don’t try to use M1 Abrams tanks without paving the way with a red carpet. And who’s going to pave the way with a red carpet?
New footage from the frontlines in Ukraine has shown Russian Lancet drone strikes to neutralise two German made Leopard tanks in Ukraine’s Kupyansk region. The Russian Defence Ministry on September 22 reported that strikes by the country’s western military group neutralised the tanks and three other vehicles, with the commander of the brigade responsible confirming that both Leopards were neutralised at 8am that day. The tanks referred two were older Leopard 1s, although newer Leopard 2s including cutting edge Leopard 2A6 variants have also been destroyed in numbers during Ukraine’s attempted offensives since early June. The Leopard 1s’ destruction came as part of broader strikes by the western military group on Ukrainian forces near the settlements of Artemovka, Sinkovka, Berestovoe and Ivanovka in the Lugansk and Kharkiv regions.
The release of footage from Lancet drones showing the targeting of Ukrainian assets has become increasing common, with a strike earlier in the week shown to have neutralised a Ukrainian MiG-29 fighter jet by striking it directly through its cockpit from 80km away. The drones have succeeded Iranian supplied Shahed 136 drones to become the most feared Russian assets in the theatre and the country’s primary strike aircraft in Ukraine. Their potency has increased as Ukrainian air defences have simultaneously become increasingly depleted, with Soviet era stocks of surface to air missiles running short and replenishments delivered by NATO members falling far short of keeping up with expenditure rates.
“>https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/footage-lancet-two-leopards
Lancets are very powerful for their size, a single one can neutralize a Leopard.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 24 2023 9:49 utc | 240
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 24 2023 9:38 utc | 118
I have not heard of any reports of US or UK ships in the Black Sea since before the SMO started.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 24 2023 7:39 utc | 101
There are, of course, ‘NATO’ ships in the Black Sea. Romania, Bulgaria and Turkey have ships there.
Posted by: spindz | Sep 24 2023 5:51 utc | 92
Why would the US put a carrier in the Black Sea? US aircraft operate from multiple air bases in NATO countries over the Black Sea. Plus the Montreux Convention seems to ban their transit through the straits.
Posted by: ed5 | Sep 24 2023 10:11 utc | 241
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 24 2023 9:38 utc | 118
I have not heard of any reports of US or UK ships in the Black Sea since before the SMO started.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 24 2023 7:39 utc | 101
There are, of course, ‘NATO’ ships in the Black Sea. Romania, Bulgaria and Turkey have ships there.
Posted by: spindz | Sep 24 2023 5:51 utc | 92
Why would the US put a carrier in the Black Sea? US aircraft operate from multiple air bases in NATO countries over the Black Sea. Plus the Montreux Convention seems to ban their transit through the straits.
Posted by: ed5 | Sep 24 2023 10:11 utc | 242
pretzelattack 102
Even if politicians are liars, and the 2024 election promises will all be reversed , and Algorithm generated postal votes win aka BoJo, even fake reiteration of truth has value imho.
Otherwise we wouldn’t have a dracula zombie in the White House who can be trusted always to deliver lies.
My high principles didn’t allow me to participate in politics after Yugoslavia, but the neo-cons did what neo-cons do. Tackling the real issues out of two sides of your mouth, is better than remaining silent as I did for a long time.
And the best way to tackle evil is satire.
E.g. the walrus and the Carpenter, ” But answer came there none, and that
was scarcely odd because
They’d eaten every one.”
If the neo-cons had had their way they would have consumed every continent of the world by now. Even evil runs out eventually when there’s nothing left to consume.
Posted by: Giyane | Sep 24 2023 10:34 utc | 243
pretzelattack 102
Even if politicians are liars, and the 2024 election promises will all be reversed , and Algorithm generated postal votes win aka BoJo, even fake reiteration of truth has value imho.
Otherwise we wouldn’t have a dracula zombie in the White House who can be trusted always to deliver lies.
My high principles didn’t allow me to participate in politics after Yugoslavia, but the neo-cons did what neo-cons do. Tackling the real issues out of two sides of your mouth, is better than remaining silent as I did for a long time.
And the best way to tackle evil is satire.
E.g. the walrus and the Carpenter, ” But answer came there none, and that
was scarcely odd because
They’d eaten every one.”
If the neo-cons had had their way they would have consumed every continent of the world by now. Even evil runs out eventually when there’s nothing left to consume.
Posted by: Giyane | Sep 24 2023 10:34 utc | 244
“The same “Jeffrey Sach’s” and bankers et el that went into Russia in the 90s and plundered & pillaged resources…
You mean that phony?
Nuff said…
Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 23 2023 22:43 utc | 52”
Mr Sachs was involved, to what extent, for how long and was his advice adopted or that of latter participants?
The Harvard Boys Do Russia artical is available here:
https://archive.vn/LxjOs#selection-1187.0-1187.26
HREF=”https://archive.vn/LxjOs#selection-1187.0-1187.26″>Link to The Harvard boys do russia → Link to The Harvard Boys Do Russia.
Posted by: OhOh | Sep 24 2023 10:36 utc | 245
“The same “Jeffrey Sach’s” and bankers et el that went into Russia in the 90s and plundered & pillaged resources…
You mean that phony?
Nuff said…
Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 23 2023 22:43 utc | 52”
Mr Sachs was involved, to what extent, for how long and was his advice adopted or that of latter participants?
The Harvard Boys Do Russia artical is available here:
https://archive.vn/LxjOs#selection-1187.0-1187.26
HREF=”https://archive.vn/LxjOs#selection-1187.0-1187.26″>Link to The Harvard boys do russia → Link to The Harvard Boys Do Russia.
Posted by: OhOh | Sep 24 2023 10:36 utc | 246
@ed5 | Sep 24 2023 10:11 utc | 122
Yes, Turkey keeps it closed for the moment. Romania and Bulgaria have the junkiest boats possible, they even damaged one trying to collect a mine near their borders. But there’s no need for ships, nato can deliver unlimited number of naval drones and missiles to damage the Black Sea fleet and its repair ports. Apparently they did not exclude ships completely. The baldie guy from UK who was pranked last year in a video call, and quit his job recently, promised in that call that ships will arrive “soon” but won’t park very close to Ukr. He was either lying or forgot about Turkey. Or both, he has the iq of a door.
Posted by: rk | Sep 24 2023 10:48 utc | 247
@ed5 | Sep 24 2023 10:11 utc | 122
Yes, Turkey keeps it closed for the moment. Romania and Bulgaria have the junkiest boats possible, they even damaged one trying to collect a mine near their borders. But there’s no need for ships, nato can deliver unlimited number of naval drones and missiles to damage the Black Sea fleet and its repair ports. Apparently they did not exclude ships completely. The baldie guy from UK who was pranked last year in a video call, and quit his job recently, promised in that call that ships will arrive “soon” but won’t park very close to Ukr. He was either lying or forgot about Turkey. Or both, he has the iq of a door.
Posted by: rk | Sep 24 2023 10:48 utc | 248
Taurus re already since August in Ukraine
Today the Atacms
❗️The United States announced the supply of ATACMS operational-tactical missiles to Kiev after their immediate transfer, so that the Russian Armed Forces did not have time to prepare and move key objects beyond the reach of the missiles.
/Financial Times/
Posted by: SlowSoft | Sep 24 2023 11:02 utc | 249
Taurus re already since August in Ukraine
Today the Atacms
❗️The United States announced the supply of ATACMS operational-tactical missiles to Kiev after their immediate transfer, so that the Russian Armed Forces did not have time to prepare and move key objects beyond the reach of the missiles.
/Financial Times/
Posted by: SlowSoft | Sep 24 2023 11:02 utc | 250
It seems that people in Kremlin still do not realize that this is a total war.
Posted by: simplex | Sep 24 2023 11:13 utc | 251
It seems that people in Kremlin still do not realize that this is a total war.
Posted by: simplex | Sep 24 2023 11:13 utc | 252
According to avia, germany is sending some 50 naval drones.
Nato really wants the black sea fleet gone. Id imagine more and more member states will donate some of those.
The “ukrainians“ are the cannonfodder, while the invisible hand does the rest.
The big issue i see in all of this, is the human cost. In order to make “ukraine“ stop, theyd have to eliminate the military. But nato keeps pumping “mercenaries and volunteers“ into the mix, so effectievly the mobilization numbers from kiew matter only to some degree.
So russia has to kill more until those attacks stop. But nato does not care, and kiew throws their population into the grinder. Now russia has to kill even more. To the last ukrainian.
And what then? If russia defeats the whole military and then some, you can bet that our western values idiots will scream genocide at every single moment for the rest of their pitty lives, in order to bring the whole world somehow on their side, just to hurt russia in spite.
And if russia does not eliminate the military, the nato will continiue while having plausible deniability.
Eu/nato are making this a world war, again.
And the dumb populance does not care.
(Had a great discussion with an avid kiev supporter at work. Showed him the latest zelenskii in canada with turdeau while cheering for that nazi scum in parlament. No reaction…)
Sorry, had to vent.
Posted by: Justpassinby | Sep 24 2023 11:14 utc | 253
According to avia, germany is sending some 50 naval drones.
Nato really wants the black sea fleet gone. Id imagine more and more member states will donate some of those.
The “ukrainians“ are the cannonfodder, while the invisible hand does the rest.
The big issue i see in all of this, is the human cost. In order to make “ukraine“ stop, theyd have to eliminate the military. But nato keeps pumping “mercenaries and volunteers“ into the mix, so effectievly the mobilization numbers from kiew matter only to some degree.
So russia has to kill more until those attacks stop. But nato does not care, and kiew throws their population into the grinder. Now russia has to kill even more. To the last ukrainian.
And what then? If russia defeats the whole military and then some, you can bet that our western values idiots will scream genocide at every single moment for the rest of their pitty lives, in order to bring the whole world somehow on their side, just to hurt russia in spite.
And if russia does not eliminate the military, the nato will continiue while having plausible deniability.
Eu/nato are making this a world war, again.
And the dumb populance does not care.
(Had a great discussion with an avid kiev supporter at work. Showed him the latest zelenskii in canada with turdeau while cheering for that nazi scum in parlament. No reaction…)
Sorry, had to vent.
Posted by: Justpassinby | Sep 24 2023 11:14 utc | 254
The Multipolar Market TG channel had a decent update on Fuel & Oil market.
US exports a lot of petroleum products, while they still can
US petroleum product exports in the first half of 2023 rose 2% to nearly 6.0 million barrels per day compared to the same period in 2022, the highest first-half export rate in the world.
Considering the rising at a record pace gasoline prices in the United States, which is causing much concern to the Biden administration ahead of the elections, the increase in exports of petroleum products looks particularly interesting.
Of course, the US had to somehow compensate Europe for the fuel it cannot currently buy from Russia.
However, it is unlikely that they will be able to continue to do so for much longer.
This is because, aside from the high gasoline prices, the US is facing a serious issue with replenishing its strategic oil reserves. To address this, they will have to conserve more oil for their own use, and prioritize refining operations to meet the demand within the country.
Thus, European politicians should think about what they will do when the US imposes an export ban of some sort.
For now it seems like the States just can’t afford not to, just because blaming Putin for soaring prices wouldn’t work anymore.
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EU is screwed, they will need to import more Russian fuel and oil from India, which will, contrary to Ursula von der Lügen, benefit Russia. Except Russia too has placed export ban of their fuel!
Things are not looking too good for Ukraine war support either, if fuel shortages occur in EU controlled part of Europe.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 24 2023 11:14 utc | 255
The Multipolar Market TG channel had a decent update on Fuel & Oil market.
US exports a lot of petroleum products, while they still can
US petroleum product exports in the first half of 2023 rose 2% to nearly 6.0 million barrels per day compared to the same period in 2022, the highest first-half export rate in the world.
Considering the rising at a record pace gasoline prices in the United States, which is causing much concern to the Biden administration ahead of the elections, the increase in exports of petroleum products looks particularly interesting.
Of course, the US had to somehow compensate Europe for the fuel it cannot currently buy from Russia.
However, it is unlikely that they will be able to continue to do so for much longer.
This is because, aside from the high gasoline prices, the US is facing a serious issue with replenishing its strategic oil reserves. To address this, they will have to conserve more oil for their own use, and prioritize refining operations to meet the demand within the country.
Thus, European politicians should think about what they will do when the US imposes an export ban of some sort.
For now it seems like the States just can’t afford not to, just because blaming Putin for soaring prices wouldn’t work anymore.
Follow us on Telegram (http://t.me/multipolarmarket) and Twitter (https://twitter.com/MultiPolarMarkt)
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EU is screwed, they will need to import more Russian fuel and oil from India, which will, contrary to Ursula von der Lügen, benefit Russia. Except Russia too has placed export ban of their fuel!
Things are not looking too good for Ukraine war support either, if fuel shortages occur in EU controlled part of Europe.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 24 2023 11:14 utc | 256
Anyone know if there are western military ships, particularly UK or USA, in the Black Sea from before the SMO stuck in Romanian and Bulgarian NATO ports?
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 24 2023 9:38 utc | 118
It doesn’t work in that way.
Military ships that are not based in black see are allowed to leave.
Military ships that are based in black see are allowed to return in their base from outside but not to exit and came back.
So, UK ships, eventually present in the black sea are allowed to exit and go back to their base, supposedly in UK.
Posted by: Mario | Sep 24 2023 11:22 utc | 257
Anyone know if there are western military ships, particularly UK or USA, in the Black Sea from before the SMO stuck in Romanian and Bulgarian NATO ports?
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 24 2023 9:38 utc | 118
It doesn’t work in that way.
Military ships that are not based in black see are allowed to leave.
Military ships that are based in black see are allowed to return in their base from outside but not to exit and came back.
So, UK ships, eventually present in the black sea are allowed to exit and go back to their base, supposedly in UK.
Posted by: Mario | Sep 24 2023 11:22 utc | 258
unimperator | Sep 24 2023 11:14 utc | 130
u$$a response to the smo:
slight decrease in crude oil import.
tiny increase in u$$a domestic crude supply
large increase in export refined product
draw down strategic reserve to 350 million barrels from over 800 million.
opec+ supply decrease largely due to economic slowing from u$$a problems, broader than sanctions and crude!
russia holding back diesel exports will be problem.
u$$a green terrorism harm energy supply and economy w/o any concern for effects on humans
china and russia investing in petroleum facilities while west disinvests and hopes the renewable will be ready as they shutter their economies.
not a good decade for people ruled by u$$a and vassals.
Posted by: paddy | Sep 24 2023 11:37 utc | 259
unimperator | Sep 24 2023 11:14 utc | 130
u$$a response to the smo:
slight decrease in crude oil import.
tiny increase in u$$a domestic crude supply
large increase in export refined product
draw down strategic reserve to 350 million barrels from over 800 million.
opec+ supply decrease largely due to economic slowing from u$$a problems, broader than sanctions and crude!
russia holding back diesel exports will be problem.
u$$a green terrorism harm energy supply and economy w/o any concern for effects on humans
china and russia investing in petroleum facilities while west disinvests and hopes the renewable will be ready as they shutter their economies.
not a good decade for people ruled by u$$a and vassals.
Posted by: paddy | Sep 24 2023 11:37 utc | 260
@ susan mullen, §91:
The real baddie was Bill Browder, well described in Alex Krainer´s “Grand Deception” (Red Pill Press, 2018). Browder was also the engine behind the “Magnitsky” sanctions, which have grown like Topsy into the myriad illegal sanctions deployed by various western vassals against any country they are ordered to – by the US NeoCons.
Posted by: John Marks | Sep 24 2023 11:41 utc | 261
@ susan mullen, §91:
The real baddie was Bill Browder, well described in Alex Krainer´s “Grand Deception” (Red Pill Press, 2018). Browder was also the engine behind the “Magnitsky” sanctions, which have grown like Topsy into the myriad illegal sanctions deployed by various western vassals against any country they are ordered to – by the US NeoCons.
Posted by: John Marks | Sep 24 2023 11:41 utc | 262
Posted by: paddy | Sep 24 2023 11:37 utc | 132
US and EU fuel demand will not go anywhere for 15 years. We can see what they are trying to do, though. They say to people inside their countries to stay home, not go anywhere, don’t travel, they are shutting down the agricultural industry for Net Zero purposes, etc. If Non-West invests in fuel refining and E&P, they will reap more rewards at the expense of the west.
So maybe the fuel demand will drop, but contrary to what people believe, that is actually the price they are paying for “supporting Ukraine”.
The thing with the green narrative and green shift is very simple. The countries who produce fuel and have invested in fuel production to secure it for decades, will use fuel longer than those countries who did not invest in fuel production. For the simple reason that it is cheaper to use vs. former case.
The “green transition” is based on mining a cr#p ton of minerals from the ground, mines which aren’t even there yet and won’t be for a long time. Mining and transporting and refining minerals require copious amounts of fuel, too.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 24 2023 11:42 utc | 263
Posted by: paddy | Sep 24 2023 11:37 utc | 132
US and EU fuel demand will not go anywhere for 15 years. We can see what they are trying to do, though. They say to people inside their countries to stay home, not go anywhere, don’t travel, they are shutting down the agricultural industry for Net Zero purposes, etc. If Non-West invests in fuel refining and E&P, they will reap more rewards at the expense of the west.
So maybe the fuel demand will drop, but contrary to what people believe, that is actually the price they are paying for “supporting Ukraine”.
The thing with the green narrative and green shift is very simple. The countries who produce fuel and have invested in fuel production to secure it for decades, will use fuel longer than those countries who did not invest in fuel production. For the simple reason that it is cheaper to use vs. former case.
The “green transition” is based on mining a cr#p ton of minerals from the ground, mines which aren’t even there yet and won’t be for a long time. Mining and transporting and refining minerals require copious amounts of fuel, too.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 24 2023 11:42 utc | 264
@Mario | Sep 24 2023 11:22 utc | 131
There is limit of three weeks for outsiders visiting Black Sea, they can’t simply forget ships there.
Posted by: rk | Sep 24 2023 11:46 utc | 265
@Mario | Sep 24 2023 11:22 utc | 131
There is limit of three weeks for outsiders visiting Black Sea, they can’t simply forget ships there.
Posted by: rk | Sep 24 2023 11:46 utc | 266
According to avia, germany is sending some 50 naval drones.
Nato really wants the black sea fleet gone. Id imagine more and more member states will donate some of those.
The “ukrainians“ are the cannonfodder, while the invisible hand does the rest.
Posted by: Justpassinby | Sep 24 2023 11:14 utc | 129
yes, even with Ukraine defeated, The West actually wins bu weakening Russia.
Posted by: simplex | Sep 24 2023 11:46 utc | 267
According to avia, germany is sending some 50 naval drones.
Nato really wants the black sea fleet gone. Id imagine more and more member states will donate some of those.
The “ukrainians“ are the cannonfodder, while the invisible hand does the rest.
Posted by: Justpassinby | Sep 24 2023 11:14 utc | 129
yes, even with Ukraine defeated, The West actually wins bu weakening Russia.
Posted by: simplex | Sep 24 2023 11:46 utc | 268
@ hankster, §103:
Excellent point, hankster.
The YouCrane should be reduced to just the six oblasts around Kiev – and renamed Chornarus – and become a constituent republic of the RF – like Tatarstan or Chechnya.
Posted by: John Marks | Sep 24 2023 11:47 utc | 269
@ hankster, §103:
Excellent point, hankster.
The YouCrane should be reduced to just the six oblasts around Kiev – and renamed Chornarus – and become a constituent republic of the RF – like Tatarstan or Chechnya.
Posted by: John Marks | Sep 24 2023 11:47 utc | 270
Posted by: Justpassinby | Sep 24 2023 11:14 utc | 129
It seems the only way to end war is to increase the amount of killing. So retaining counter-artillery and drone superiority to destroy Nato counter-artillery, vehicles and radars is the best way to keep things as favorable as possible during Nato meat wave assaults.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 24 2023 11:56 utc | 271
Posted by: Justpassinby | Sep 24 2023 11:14 utc | 129
It seems the only way to end war is to increase the amount of killing. So retaining counter-artillery and drone superiority to destroy Nato counter-artillery, vehicles and radars is the best way to keep things as favorable as possible during Nato meat wave assaults.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 24 2023 11:56 utc | 272
@ Giyane, §123:
Yes, indeed, laughter is the best weapon against these NeoCon thugs.
And Lewis Carroll is a great source of material, e.g. the Ukraine war and MH17, the Skripal pantomime, the Douma hoax and many, many more are treated by Washington (and, more pointedly, by London) like the Red Queen: “Verdict first, trial afterwards”.
Posted by: John Marks | Sep 24 2023 11:58 utc | 273
@ Giyane, §123:
Yes, indeed, laughter is the best weapon against these NeoCon thugs.
And Lewis Carroll is a great source of material, e.g. the Ukraine war and MH17, the Skripal pantomime, the Douma hoax and many, many more are treated by Washington (and, more pointedly, by London) like the Red Queen: “Verdict first, trial afterwards”.
Posted by: John Marks | Sep 24 2023 11:58 utc | 274
@unimperator | Sep 24 2023 11:42 utc | 134
They want to use the green agenda as reason to bomb anyone who tries to have industry or agriculture. And make everyone outside “West” even more poor. There was a proposal at UN by US and some of their African puppets a few years ago. I don’t remember the phrasing and I’m not a lawyer. The idea was that they wanted to place the entire green anti-pollution contraption under security threats. I remember Russia and India voted against and it eventually failed.
Posted by: rk | Sep 24 2023 11:59 utc | 275
@unimperator | Sep 24 2023 11:42 utc | 134
They want to use the green agenda as reason to bomb anyone who tries to have industry or agriculture. And make everyone outside “West” even more poor. There was a proposal at UN by US and some of their African puppets a few years ago. I don’t remember the phrasing and I’m not a lawyer. The idea was that they wanted to place the entire green anti-pollution contraption under security threats. I remember Russia and India voted against and it eventually failed.
Posted by: rk | Sep 24 2023 11:59 utc | 276
There is limit of three weeks for outsiders visiting Black Sea, they can’t simply forget ships there.
Posted by: rk | Sep 24 2023 11:46 utc | 135
Have you some reference to your assertion?
Posted by: Mario | Sep 24 2023 12:04 utc | 277
There is limit of three weeks for outsiders visiting Black Sea, they can’t simply forget ships there.
Posted by: rk | Sep 24 2023 11:46 utc | 135
Have you some reference to your assertion?
Posted by: Mario | Sep 24 2023 12:04 utc | 278
Have you some reference to your assertion?
Posted by: Mario | Sep 24 2023 12:04 utc | 141
You want to read the convention pdf? Google found it here:
justsecurity.org/85181/assessing-military-operations-in-the-black-sea-a-year-into-russias-full-scale-invasion-of-ukraine/
Posted by: rk | Sep 24 2023 12:11 utc | 279
Have you some reference to your assertion?
Posted by: Mario | Sep 24 2023 12:04 utc | 141
You want to read the convention pdf? Google found it here:
justsecurity.org/85181/assessing-military-operations-in-the-black-sea-a-year-into-russias-full-scale-invasion-of-ukraine/
Posted by: rk | Sep 24 2023 12:11 utc | 280
What´s the big deal about Russia being “bottled up” in the Black Sea?
They have Petersburg on the Baltic – and the Kattegat is not closed like the Bosporus.
They also have Murmansk on the Barents Sea, Archangel on the White Sea, – and Vladivostok on the Sea of Japan, Ayan on the Sea of Oxotsk, Petropavlovsk on the Pacific . . . so no problem for Russia to get carriers and submarines out into the open ocean.
Posted by: John Marks | Sep 24 2023 12:16 utc | 281
What´s the big deal about Russia being “bottled up” in the Black Sea?
They have Petersburg on the Baltic – and the Kattegat is not closed like the Bosporus.
They also have Murmansk on the Barents Sea, Archangel on the White Sea, – and Vladivostok on the Sea of Japan, Ayan on the Sea of Oxotsk, Petropavlovsk on the Pacific . . . so no problem for Russia to get carriers and submarines out into the open ocean.
Posted by: John Marks | Sep 24 2023 12:16 utc | 282
They want to use the green agenda as reason to bomb anyone who tries to have industry or agriculture. And make everyone outside “West” even more poor.
Posted by: rk | Sep 24 2023 11:59 utc | 140
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That was the basic idea behind emissions trading. Neocolonialism disguised as climate protection.
Posted by: Nobody | Sep 24 2023 12:33 utc | 283
They want to use the green agenda as reason to bomb anyone who tries to have industry or agriculture. And make everyone outside “West” even more poor.
Posted by: rk | Sep 24 2023 11:59 utc | 140
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That was the basic idea behind emissions trading. Neocolonialism disguised as climate protection.
Posted by: Nobody | Sep 24 2023 12:33 utc | 284
Re Germany: the Federal Republic of Germany is vassal state. This fact is not even hidden. There is no constitution, only a basic law called Grundgesetz that was approved by the allies after the war. Grundgesetz states that after the reunification of the German people, the people of Germany will vote on a constitution.
So the reunification happened, but still no constitution 33 years later. There is not even a peace treaty and US and British troops are still deployed to Germany. So that anyone who knows these simple and basic facts considers the FRG a sovereign nation, is beyond me. If there is a textbook vassal state, it’s the FRG.
So the best thing that could happen to Germans is a collapse and disintegration of the Empire of Lies. It’s a bit like being the stoker on the Titanic. Keep shoveling the coals into the fire for the engine to run full steam towards the iceberg: cheer for Democrats and their divisive policies, for open borders, trillions of $ in reparations for blacks, full support for the prosecution of Trump and covering up of the bribery racket of Brandon and his crew. The more divided the US and the more it looks like a banana republic, the better for Germany and other vassals and puppets.
Let’s hope the disintegration goes ahead without WW3.
Posted by: Dandy Chiggins III | Sep 24 2023 12:38 utc | 285
Re Germany: the Federal Republic of Germany is vassal state. This fact is not even hidden. There is no constitution, only a basic law called Grundgesetz that was approved by the allies after the war. Grundgesetz states that after the reunification of the German people, the people of Germany will vote on a constitution.
So the reunification happened, but still no constitution 33 years later. There is not even a peace treaty and US and British troops are still deployed to Germany. So that anyone who knows these simple and basic facts considers the FRG a sovereign nation, is beyond me. If there is a textbook vassal state, it’s the FRG.
So the best thing that could happen to Germans is a collapse and disintegration of the Empire of Lies. It’s a bit like being the stoker on the Titanic. Keep shoveling the coals into the fire for the engine to run full steam towards the iceberg: cheer for Democrats and their divisive policies, for open borders, trillions of $ in reparations for blacks, full support for the prosecution of Trump and covering up of the bribery racket of Brandon and his crew. The more divided the US and the more it looks like a banana republic, the better for Germany and other vassals and puppets.
Let’s hope the disintegration goes ahead without WW3.
Posted by: Dandy Chiggins III | Sep 24 2023 12:38 utc | 286
@ Nobody | Sep 24 2023 12:33 utc | 144
—
There is a market for everything.
Derivatives
Investors blocked from betting on US congressional elections by regulator
CFTC says political-control contracts offered by futures market would be ‘contrary to the public interest’
The main US derivatives regulator has thrown out contracts that would have allowed investors to place bets on congressional elections, as preparations for races in 2024 are kicking into high gear.
The Commodity Futures Trading Commission on Friday said Kalshi, a retail-focused futures market, was barred from offering contracts that constitute bets on which political parties would be in control of different chambers of the US Congress.
“After reviewing the complete record, the CFTC determined the contracts involve gaming and activity that is unlawful under state law and are contrary to the public interest,” the regulator said in a statement on Friday.
The contracts would have been binary, cash-settled and based on the question: “Willbe controlled by for ?”
Kalshi, based in San Francisco, offers dozens of contracts that enable customers to bet on events or data, such as the length of the current United Auto Workers’ strike and the average price of petrol.
Tarek Mansour, chief executive of Kalshi, said the group disagreed with the CFTC decision. “However, we remain optimistic and believe that with time, our vision will be recognised and embraced,” he added.
…
https://www.ft.com/content/4be45329-bd7c-4a3c-92b5-c6b4e442af30
Perverse Incentives work like Ponzi Schemes in that they pay out for their creators at the expense of their investors.
Posted by: too scents | Sep 24 2023 12:50 utc | 287
@ Nobody | Sep 24 2023 12:33 utc | 144
—
There is a market for everything.
Derivatives
Investors blocked from betting on US congressional elections by regulator
CFTC says political-control contracts offered by futures market would be ‘contrary to the public interest’
The main US derivatives regulator has thrown out contracts that would have allowed investors to place bets on congressional elections, as preparations for races in 2024 are kicking into high gear.
The Commodity Futures Trading Commission on Friday said Kalshi, a retail-focused futures market, was barred from offering contracts that constitute bets on which political parties would be in control of different chambers of the US Congress.
“After reviewing the complete record, the CFTC determined the contracts involve gaming and activity that is unlawful under state law and are contrary to the public interest,” the regulator said in a statement on Friday.
The contracts would have been binary, cash-settled and based on the question: “Willbe controlled by for ?”
Kalshi, based in San Francisco, offers dozens of contracts that enable customers to bet on events or data, such as the length of the current United Auto Workers’ strike and the average price of petrol.
Tarek Mansour, chief executive of Kalshi, said the group disagreed with the CFTC decision. “However, we remain optimistic and believe that with time, our vision will be recognised and embraced,” he added.
…
https://www.ft.com/content/4be45329-bd7c-4a3c-92b5-c6b4e442af30
Perverse Incentives work like Ponzi Schemes in that they pay out for their creators at the expense of their investors.
Posted by: too scents | Sep 24 2023 12:50 utc | 288
correcting too scents | Sep 24 2023 12:50 utc | 146
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The contracts would have been binary, cash-settled and based on the question: “Will «chamber of Congress» be controlled by «party» for «term»?”
Posted by: too scents | Sep 24 2023 12:54 utc | 289
correcting too scents | Sep 24 2023 12:50 utc | 146
—
The contracts would have been binary, cash-settled and based on the question: “Will «chamber of Congress» be controlled by «party» for «term»?”
Posted by: too scents | Sep 24 2023 12:54 utc | 290
Have you some reference to your assertion?
Posted by: Mario | Sep 24 2023 12:04 utc | 141
That rule is part of the Montreux Convention of 1936.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreux_Convention_Regarding_the_Regime_of_the_Straits
That is the reason why the US have been trying for years to get an extraterritorial port in the Black Sea, so that their war ships would no longer fall under the 3 week rule. They failed to convince Turkey to hand over a port, they could not get Sevaastopol, and then they tried building one in Ukraine (which was almost finished when Russia started the SMO). That port was one of the first csualties of that war.
Posted by: Martina | Sep 24 2023 12:55 utc | 291
Have you some reference to your assertion?
Posted by: Mario | Sep 24 2023 12:04 utc | 141
That rule is part of the Montreux Convention of 1936.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreux_Convention_Regarding_the_Regime_of_the_Straits
That is the reason why the US have been trying for years to get an extraterritorial port in the Black Sea, so that their war ships would no longer fall under the 3 week rule. They failed to convince Turkey to hand over a port, they could not get Sevaastopol, and then they tried building one in Ukraine (which was almost finished when Russia started the SMO). That port was one of the first csualties of that war.
Posted by: Martina | Sep 24 2023 12:55 utc | 292
Martynov posts two videos of “Shaman” singing…
The Russian National Anthem with 70,000 in a stadium
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UD1AosAEA4&themeRefresh=1
Shaman’s prediction 10 years ago…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip775ia-aNQ
Nato is going to conquer whom??? how???
INDY
Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 24 2023 12:57 utc | 293
Martynov posts two videos of “Shaman” singing…
The Russian National Anthem with 70,000 in a stadium
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UD1AosAEA4&themeRefresh=1
Shaman’s prediction 10 years ago…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip775ia-aNQ
Nato is going to conquer whom??? how???
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Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 24 2023 12:57 utc | 294
@ Dandy Chiggins III, §145:
Exactly the same applies to Japan.
It remains occupied by American troops, stationed at Okinawa in the Ryukyu Is. For this reason, the Russians still occupy the Kuril Is. to the north.
Americans have pressured Japan into squandering $billions on useless, expensive American weapons they don´t want (and are against their constitution!). Nor do they want to become a “Ukraine” against China.
Even their second-hand cars, beloved by the Russians because of their sturdiness and ability to work in Siberia´s freezing winters, are now forbidden by American sanctions – which hurt only Japan and benefit Chinese exports of much inferior (in reliability) cars to Siberia.
Time for Japan´s current emperor, Naruhito, to do a Meiji. That seems unlikely, given Naruhito is such a wimp (almost as bad as England´s Charles III). Just as Princess Anne as Anne II would have been better for England, maybe Princess Toshi would be better for Japan.
Posted by: John Marks | Sep 24 2023 13:00 utc | 295
@ Dandy Chiggins III, §145:
Exactly the same applies to Japan.
It remains occupied by American troops, stationed at Okinawa in the Ryukyu Is. For this reason, the Russians still occupy the Kuril Is. to the north.
Americans have pressured Japan into squandering $billions on useless, expensive American weapons they don´t want (and are against their constitution!). Nor do they want to become a “Ukraine” against China.
Even their second-hand cars, beloved by the Russians because of their sturdiness and ability to work in Siberia´s freezing winters, are now forbidden by American sanctions – which hurt only Japan and benefit Chinese exports of much inferior (in reliability) cars to Siberia.
Time for Japan´s current emperor, Naruhito, to do a Meiji. That seems unlikely, given Naruhito is such a wimp (almost as bad as England´s Charles III). Just as Princess Anne as Anne II would have been better for England, maybe Princess Toshi would be better for Japan.
Posted by: John Marks | Sep 24 2023 13:00 utc | 296
Ze having his happiest moments in Canada celebrating Waffen SS:
https://www.rt.com/news/583456-zelensky-trudeau-canada-galician/
Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2023 13:03 utc | 297
Ze having his happiest moments in Canada celebrating Waffen SS:
https://www.rt.com/news/583456-zelensky-trudeau-canada-galician/
Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2023 13:03 utc | 298
Posted by: John Marks | Sep 24 2023 12:16 utc | 143
“so no problem for Russia to get carriers and submarines out into the open ocean.”
Carriers? As in aircraft carriers? YES, everytime Admiral Kuznetsov gets a shout out, it makes my heart sing! Tremble in fear at the mighty display of russian engineering that is Admiral Kuznetsov!
Posted by: Membrum Virile | Sep 24 2023 13:07 utc | 299
Posted by: John Marks | Sep 24 2023 12:16 utc | 143
“so no problem for Russia to get carriers and submarines out into the open ocean.”
Carriers? As in aircraft carriers? YES, everytime Admiral Kuznetsov gets a shout out, it makes my heart sing! Tremble in fear at the mighty display of russian engineering that is Admiral Kuznetsov!
Posted by: Membrum Virile | Sep 24 2023 13:07 utc | 300