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September 17, 2023
Ukraine Open Thread 2023-219
Only for news & views directly related to the Ukraine conflict. The current open thread for other issues is here. Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.
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indian punchline from today.. worth the read.. Posted by: james | Sep 17 2023 20:18 utc | 101 indian punchline from today.. worth the read.. Posted by: james | Sep 17 2023 20:18 utc | 102 Video of random mobilization event in Lwow.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 17 2023 20:20 utc | 103 Video of random mobilization event in Lwow.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 17 2023 20:20 utc | 104 @ simplex | Sep 17 2023 20:17 utc | 50 Posted by: james | Sep 17 2023 20:21 utc | 105 @ simplex | Sep 17 2023 20:17 utc | 50 Posted by: james | Sep 17 2023 20:21 utc | 106 Posted by: JessDTruth | Sep 17 2023 15:01 utc | 5 Posted by: theo | Sep 17 2023 20:30 utc | 107 Posted by: JessDTruth | Sep 17 2023 15:01 utc | 5 Posted by: theo | Sep 17 2023 20:30 utc | 108
thanks, very informative. Posted by: simplex | Sep 17 2023 20:33 utc | 109
thanks, very informative. Posted by: simplex | Sep 17 2023 20:33 utc | 110 Dima says: “Klishchiivka and Andriivka Have Fallen” Posted by: Micron | Sep 17 2023 20:44 utc | 111 Dima says: “Klishchiivka and Andriivka Have Fallen” Posted by: Micron | Sep 17 2023 20:44 utc | 112 The North Korea thing is more about employing NK workforce in projects in Far East Russia, and operating various production plants. They might send some weapons to be tested in Ukraine, but it’s really not the main theme. Sure, a deal may also include 152mm shells etc. But weapons are secondary compared to other things. Posted by: OohCanada | Sep 17 2023 21:10 utc | 113 The North Korea thing is more about employing NK workforce in projects in Far East Russia, and operating various production plants. They might send some weapons to be tested in Ukraine, but it’s really not the main theme. Sure, a deal may also include 152mm shells etc. But weapons are secondary compared to other things. Posted by: OohCanada | Sep 17 2023 21:10 utc | 114 Posted by: theo | Sep 17 2023 20:30 utc | 54 Posted by: theo | Sep 17 2023 21:14 utc | 115 Posted by: theo | Sep 17 2023 20:30 utc | 54 Posted by: theo | Sep 17 2023 21:14 utc | 116 Posted by: kupkee | Sep 17 2023 18:11 utc | 36 Posted by: watcher | Sep 17 2023 21:18 utc | 117 Posted by: kupkee | Sep 17 2023 18:11 utc | 36 Posted by: watcher | Sep 17 2023 21:18 utc | 118 @Micron | Sep 17 2023 20:44 utc | 56 Posted by: SG | Sep 17 2023 21:25 utc | 119 @Micron | Sep 17 2023 20:44 utc | 56 Posted by: SG | Sep 17 2023 21:25 utc | 120 Military summary: Posted by: unimperator | Sep 17 2023 21:27 utc | 121 Military summary: Posted by: unimperator | Sep 17 2023 21:27 utc | 122 Taras 77* | Sep 17 2023 18:52 utc | 42 Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 17 2023 21:31 utc | 123 Taras 77* | Sep 17 2023 18:52 utc | 42 Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 17 2023 21:31 utc | 124 Orgel 10 Posted by: Susan | Sep 17 2023 21:32 utc | 125 Orgel 10 Posted by: Susan | Sep 17 2023 21:32 utc | 126 @migueljose 29 Posted by: AG | Sep 17 2023 21:32 utc | 127 @migueljose 29 Posted by: AG | Sep 17 2023 21:32 utc | 128 The Ukraine president, who’s probably now sitting on a plane heading to Washington, must now be wishing he’d paid more attention in school and read The Prince or even looked up the meaning of the word Patsy. Posted by: Eoin Clancy | Sep 17 2023 21:39 utc | 129 The Ukraine president, who’s probably now sitting on a plane heading to Washington, must now be wishing he’d paid more attention in school and read The Prince or even looked up the meaning of the word Patsy. Posted by: Eoin Clancy | Sep 17 2023 21:39 utc | 130 Dima says: “Klishchiivka and Andriivka Have Fallen” Posted by: OhCanada | Sep 17 2023 21:42 utc | 131 Dima says: “Klishchiivka and Andriivka Have Fallen” Posted by: OhCanada | Sep 17 2023 21:42 utc | 132 “After 19 months of war, most observers have understood that Russia’s ceaseless nuclear threats are a psychological operation, an attempt to frighten Ukraine and its allies into surrender.” Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 17 2023 21:44 utc | 133 “After 19 months of war, most observers have understood that Russia’s ceaseless nuclear threats are a psychological operation, an attempt to frighten Ukraine and its allies into surrender.” Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 17 2023 21:44 utc | 134 Posted by: Eoin Clancy | Sep 17 2023 21:39 utc | 65 Posted by: unimperator | Sep 17 2023 21:45 utc | 135 Posted by: Eoin Clancy | Sep 17 2023 21:39 utc | 65 Posted by: unimperator | Sep 17 2023 21:45 utc | 136 Dima, just like any fortune teller, collects fee and say anything that fits. The other day, somebody put it succinctly, these sites are pastime hobby, unsuitable for seriousness. Posted by: KitaySupporter | Sep 17 2023 22:05 utc | 137 Dima, just like any fortune teller, collects fee and say anything that fits. The other day, somebody put it succinctly, these sites are pastime hobby, unsuitable for seriousness. Posted by: KitaySupporter | Sep 17 2023 22:05 utc | 138 @ Ahenobarbus | Sep 17 2023 21:44 utc | 67 Posted by: james | Sep 17 2023 22:10 utc | 139 @ Ahenobarbus | Sep 17 2023 21:44 utc | 67 Posted by: james | Sep 17 2023 22:10 utc | 140 @ 600w | Sep 17 2023 18:05 utc | 35 Posted by: james | Sep 17 2023 22:12 utc | 141 @ 600w | Sep 17 2023 18:05 utc | 35 Posted by: james | Sep 17 2023 22:12 utc | 142 Dima, just like any fortune teller, collects fee and say anything that fits. The other day, somebody put it succinctly, these sites are pastime hobby, unsuitable for seriousness. Posted by: SCCC | Sep 17 2023 22:23 utc | 143 Dima, just like any fortune teller, collects fee and say anything that fits. The other day, somebody put it succinctly, these sites are pastime hobby, unsuitable for seriousness. Posted by: SCCC | Sep 17 2023 22:23 utc | 144 Sea Breeze 2023-3 is scheduled to run from Sept. 11-15, 2023, in Constanta, Romania. This is a land and sea-based exercise with multinational Allies and Partners, aimed to enhance the capabilities of Black Sea and Partnership for Peace maritime security forces while progressively training and preparing the Ukraine Maritime Command staff. Posted by: OohCanada | Sep 17 2023 22:31 utc | 145 Sea Breeze 2023-3 is scheduled to run from Sept. 11-15, 2023, in Constanta, Romania. This is a land and sea-based exercise with multinational Allies and Partners, aimed to enhance the capabilities of Black Sea and Partnership for Peace maritime security forces while progressively training and preparing the Ukraine Maritime Command staff. Posted by: OohCanada | Sep 17 2023 22:31 utc | 146 PSA. Every time some fucknit posts “Dima says”, I feel another brain cell die. Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 17 2023 22:34 utc | 147 PSA. Every time some fucknit posts “Dima says”, I feel another brain cell die. Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 17 2023 22:34 utc | 148 They only took some selfies there, in the village. That’s not “taking”, it’s probably for msm and for Zeli’s visit to US this week. If it’s a real success then Ukr has to keep it and advance or whatever. Posted by: rk | Sep 17 2023 22:41 utc | 149 They only took some selfies there, in the village. That’s not “taking”, it’s probably for msm and for Zeli’s visit to US this week. If it’s a real success then Ukr has to keep it and advance or whatever. Posted by: rk | Sep 17 2023 22:41 utc | 150 Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Sep 17 2023 19:32 utc | 47
Ma, please give more context of this extraordinary quote, or a citation. Was it published? An interview?. Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Sep 17 2023 22:44 utc | 151 Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Sep 17 2023 19:32 utc | 47
Ma, please give more context of this extraordinary quote, or a citation. Was it published? An interview?. Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Sep 17 2023 22:44 utc | 152 Posted by: AG | Sep 17 2023 21:32 utc | 64 Posted by: migueljose | Sep 17 2023 22:52 utc | 153 Posted by: AG | Sep 17 2023 21:32 utc | 64 Posted by: migueljose | Sep 17 2023 22:52 utc | 154 OohCanada | Sep 17 2023 22:31 utc | 73 Posted by: rk | Sep 17 2023 22:53 utc | 155 OohCanada | Sep 17 2023 22:31 utc | 73 Posted by: rk | Sep 17 2023 22:53 utc | 156 Posted by: Tiano | Sep 17 2023 18:23 utc | 38 Posted by: migueljose | Sep 17 2023 22:56 utc | 157 Posted by: Tiano | Sep 17 2023 18:23 utc | 38 Posted by: migueljose | Sep 17 2023 22:56 utc | 158 Eoin Clancy 52 Posted by: Giyane | Sep 17 2023 23:23 utc | 159 Eoin Clancy 52 Posted by: Giyane | Sep 17 2023 23:23 utc | 160 Russia should stop playing and just damn turn Lwow, Stanislawow, Tarnopol and Rivne to ashes, Berlin Year Zero style. Posted by: Timur | Sep 17 2023 23:40 utc | 161 Russia should stop playing and just damn turn Lwow, Stanislawow, Tarnopol and Rivne to ashes, Berlin Year Zero style. Posted by: Timur | Sep 17 2023 23:40 utc | 162 @6 Posted by: SlowSoft | Sep 17 2023 23:55 utc | 163 @6 Posted by: SlowSoft | Sep 17 2023 23:55 utc | 164 the most important thing that Kim brought back is the blueprint for producing Lancets. Posted by: Surferket | Sep 17 2023 23:56 utc | 165 the most important thing that Kim brought back is the blueprint for producing Lancets. Posted by: Surferket | Sep 17 2023 23:56 utc | 166 Posted by: Giyane | Sep 17 2023 23:23 utc | 80 Posted by: SCCC | Sep 18 2023 0:13 utc | 167 Posted by: Giyane | Sep 17 2023 23:23 utc | 80 Posted by: SCCC | Sep 18 2023 0:13 utc | 168 Yes, an old transport ship that looks like it’s from Mad Max, a little speed boat and kayaks of some sort, I forgot what it was, one radar plane from US and some Bulgarians. I’m sure Russia, even China are afraid now, operation Danube Danger in progress!! Posted by: OohCanada | Sep 18 2023 0:15 utc | 169 Yes, an old transport ship that looks like it’s from Mad Max, a little speed boat and kayaks of some sort, I forgot what it was, one radar plane from US and some Bulgarians. I’m sure Russia, even China are afraid now, operation Danube Danger in progress!! Posted by: OohCanada | Sep 18 2023 0:15 utc | 170
They would have to start before they can keep. The reality is Russian losses have been minimal, and well within projections no doubt..probably less than estimated. Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Sep 18 2023 0:37 utc | 171
They would have to start before they can keep. The reality is Russian losses have been minimal, and well within projections no doubt..probably less than estimated. Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Sep 18 2023 0:37 utc | 172 Posted by: Taras 77 | Sep 17 2023 18:52 utc | 42 Posted by: Taras 77 | Sep 17 2023 18:52 utc | 42 Flash : Kleshcheevka, dismal ruins; 17 September 2023
Posted by: scanalyse | Sep 18 2023 0:48 utc | 175 Flash : Kleshcheevka, dismal ruins; 17 September 2023
Posted by: scanalyse | Sep 18 2023 0:48 utc | 176 Posted by: OohCanada | Sep 18 2023 0:15 utc | 85 Posted by: SCCC | Sep 18 2023 0:48 utc | 177 Posted by: OohCanada | Sep 18 2023 0:15 utc | 85 Posted by: SCCC | Sep 18 2023 0:48 utc | 178 I sense that Ukraine will be out of manpower almost any minute?
Posted by: MiniMo | Sep 18 2023 0:56 utc | 179 I sense that Ukraine will be out of manpower almost any minute?
Posted by: MiniMo | Sep 18 2023 0:56 utc | 180 They would have to start before they can keep. The reality is Russian losses have been minimal, and well within projections no doubt..probably less than estimated. Posted by: OhCanada | Sep 18 2023 1:23 utc | 181 They would have to start before they can keep. The reality is Russian losses have been minimal, and well within projections no doubt..probably less than estimated. Posted by: OhCanada | Sep 18 2023 1:23 utc | 182 Are NAFO trolls well paid? I’m open for hire. Posted by: Surferket | Sep 18 2023 1:29 utc | 183 Are NAFO trolls well paid? I’m open for hire. Posted by: Surferket | Sep 18 2023 1:29 utc | 184 There is nothing good about the regime in NK but if the deals between russia and nk lead to less hunger and suffering among nkoreans i guess it ultimately is a good thing. Posted by: Ed | Sep 18 2023 1:30 utc | 185 There is nothing good about the regime in NK but if the deals between russia and nk lead to less hunger and suffering among nkoreans i guess it ultimately is a good thing. Posted by: Ed | Sep 18 2023 1:30 utc | 186 Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Sep 18 2023 0:37 utc | 86 “The reality is Russian losses have been minimal, and well within projections no doubt..probably less than estimated.” Posted by: ed5 | Sep 18 2023 1:36 utc | 187 Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Sep 18 2023 0:37 utc | 86 “The reality is Russian losses have been minimal, and well within projections no doubt..probably less than estimated.” Posted by: ed5 | Sep 18 2023 1:36 utc | 188 Posted by: Ed | Sep 18 2023 1:30 utc | 93 Posted by: Surferket | Sep 18 2023 1:36 utc | 189 Posted by: Ed | Sep 18 2023 1:30 utc | 93 Posted by: Surferket | Sep 18 2023 1:36 utc | 190 Posted by: ed5 | Sep 18 2023 1:36 utc | 94 Posted by: Surferket | Sep 18 2023 1:38 utc | 191 Posted by: ed5 | Sep 18 2023 1:36 utc | 94 Posted by: Surferket | Sep 18 2023 1:38 utc | 192 I live in China and I believe we actually have better info on what’s happening on the battlefields than you guys in the west with your heavily pro Nazi slanted MSM. Posted by: Surferket | Sep 18 2023 1:44 utc | 193 I live in China and I believe we actually have better info on what’s happening on the battlefields than you guys in the west with your heavily pro Nazi slanted MSM. Posted by: Surferket | Sep 18 2023 1:44 utc | 194 @migueljose 77 Posted by: AG | Sep 18 2023 1:54 utc | 195 @migueljose 77 Posted by: AG | Sep 18 2023 1:54 utc | 196 Posted by: Surferket | Sep 18 2023 1:38 utc | 96 “Actually it’s Putin who said in one of his recent interviews that the Ukies are suffering more than 10:1 casualties” Posted by: ed5 | Sep 18 2023 2:00 utc | 197 Posted by: Surferket | Sep 18 2023 1:38 utc | 96 “Actually it’s Putin who said in one of his recent interviews that the Ukies are suffering more than 10:1 casualties” Posted by: ed5 | Sep 18 2023 2:00 utc | 198 Posted by: james | Sep 17 2023 22:10 utc | 70 Posted by: jonboinAR | Sep 18 2023 2:11 utc | 199 Posted by: james | Sep 17 2023 22:10 utc | 70 Posted by: jonboinAR | Sep 18 2023 2:11 utc | 200 |
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