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September 17, 2023
Ukraine Open Thread 2023-219

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Ok. Slow news week on the internet. Russia is stocking up. I want to see the Globalists pay for their crimes.

Posted by: Leroy | Sep 17 2023 14:32 utc | 1

Ok. Slow news week on the internet. Russia is stocking up. I want to see the Globalists pay for their crimes.

Posted by: Leroy | Sep 17 2023 14:32 utc | 2

Kim still seeing all the sights in eastern Russia. Western MSM still crying buckets of tears and inhaling metric cubes of copium

Posted by: DaVinci | Sep 17 2023 14:36 utc | 3

Kim still seeing all the sights in eastern Russia. Western MSM still crying buckets of tears and inhaling metric cubes of copium

Posted by: DaVinci | Sep 17 2023 14:36 utc | 4

Posted by: DaVinci | Sep 17 2023 14:36 utc | 2
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I’m ashamed that I take so much pleasure in seeing the Western media freak out if KJU does anything with anyone.
His mere existence is trolling. I find that glorious. He just needs to be photographed doing anything, and Western Karens (which are legion) all lose their weak, pathetic, sick minds.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 17 2023 14:43 utc | 5

Posted by: DaVinci | Sep 17 2023 14:36 utc | 2
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I’m ashamed that I take so much pleasure in seeing the Western media freak out if KJU does anything with anyone.
His mere existence is trolling. I find that glorious. He just needs to be photographed doing anything, and Western Karens (which are legion) all lose their weak, pathetic, sick minds.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 17 2023 14:43 utc | 6

I saw someone mention in a comment recently that the DPRK was going to deploy troops alongside Russia. Is that a real thing or fantasy?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 17 2023 14:45 utc | 7

I saw someone mention in a comment recently that the DPRK was going to deploy troops alongside Russia. Is that a real thing or fantasy?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 17 2023 14:45 utc | 8

@ LoveDonbass 4
There’s zero chance that DPRK will send troops to the Ukraine. That’s just Western trolling.
Troops are not needed. The language barrier would be a serious problem, not to mention incompatibilities in everything.
But we might see North Koreans working in Russian factories, either armaments or anything else. I think it’s likely North Korea will start selling off some of its 8 million artillery shells supposedly in stock, to Russia, and the prime reason would be to send a message needs to South Korea which started producing 155mm shells for the US to send to Ukraine. Yeah, the South Koreans might want to think a bit harder about that. It would be interesting to know where South Korea is getting its raw materials for the shells.

Posted by: JessDTruth | Sep 17 2023 15:01 utc | 9

@ LoveDonbass 4
There’s zero chance that DPRK will send troops to the Ukraine. That’s just Western trolling.
Troops are not needed. The language barrier would be a serious problem, not to mention incompatibilities in everything.
But we might see North Koreans working in Russian factories, either armaments or anything else. I think it’s likely North Korea will start selling off some of its 8 million artillery shells supposedly in stock, to Russia, and the prime reason would be to send a message needs to South Korea which started producing 155mm shells for the US to send to Ukraine. Yeah, the South Koreans might want to think a bit harder about that. It would be interesting to know where South Korea is getting its raw materials for the shells.

Posted by: JessDTruth | Sep 17 2023 15:01 utc | 10

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 17 2023 14:45 utc | 4
Silly Boy…Girl? Why would the mighty Russian military need NK? They are fighting with one-hand behind their back, haven’t you heard? The slow pace is deliberate.
Go read the Clobber Report for confirmation…the Russian military is completely trustworthy.

Posted by: Observer | Sep 17 2023 15:06 utc | 11

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 17 2023 14:45 utc | 4
Silly Boy…Girl? Why would the mighty Russian military need NK? They are fighting with one-hand behind their back, haven’t you heard? The slow pace is deliberate.
Go read the Clobber Report for confirmation…the Russian military is completely trustworthy.

Posted by: Observer | Sep 17 2023 15:06 utc | 12

I came across an editor article on National Interest (for sure already picked up here) about how sending Leopard tanks in Ukraine signes a death warrant on Putin’s regime. The article is dated January 24,2023.
I asked them for an update in their contact module.
Curious to see the answer.

Posted by: scc | Sep 17 2023 15:14 utc | 13

I came across an editor article on National Interest (for sure already picked up here) about how sending Leopard tanks in Ukraine signes a death warrant on Putin’s regime. The article is dated January 24,2023.
I asked them for an update in their contact module.
Curious to see the answer.

Posted by: scc | Sep 17 2023 15:14 utc | 14

The ukronatzos are busy building the next hogwash PR Narratives.
This one riffs on the Kuwait incubators horror of babies being dumped as the machines were stolen by evil Iraqis. And the much older WW1 propaganda to take up arms in the trenches , the original mincers, upgraded for this bloody charade – The Evil Hun, bayoneting babies in Belgium, it must be true there were posters everywhere and the Times wrote about it!
Yes folks we now have – Pregnant Ukrops being fitted with uniforms and mummy safe armour!
‘Oh no look the evil Russkies are killing foetuses now! Hate them more and never ask why? Just remember that when your kids and grandkids are sent to take Russia and forever remain as a stain in some foreign field – it’s because we are Good fighting Evil’

Posted by: DunGroanin | Sep 17 2023 15:14 utc | 15

The ukronatzos are busy building the next hogwash PR Narratives.
This one riffs on the Kuwait incubators horror of babies being dumped as the machines were stolen by evil Iraqis. And the much older WW1 propaganda to take up arms in the trenches , the original mincers, upgraded for this bloody charade – The Evil Hun, bayoneting babies in Belgium, it must be true there were posters everywhere and the Times wrote about it!
Yes folks we now have – Pregnant Ukrops being fitted with uniforms and mummy safe armour!
‘Oh no look the evil Russkies are killing foetuses now! Hate them more and never ask why? Just remember that when your kids and grandkids are sent to take Russia and forever remain as a stain in some foreign field – it’s because we are Good fighting Evil’

Posted by: DunGroanin | Sep 17 2023 15:14 utc | 16

Re North Korea, I would doubt that Russia would want or even need its troops. However I could easily envisage a situation where NK sends observers. I could also see a scenario where NK might want to test out its unique weapons – ie various MRLS etc. Even a few “special forces” volunteers – but no mass formations methinks.
It might be possible – even likely – that NK provides Russia with stocks of Soviet designed ammo in all the right calibres. Also, if Russia lifts sanctions the NK MIC can swing into gear. Imagine in a year’s time when NK has enough food, oil, power and raw materials along with tech transfer? Of course NK workers also could help develop infrastructure links between the two nations.
A bit of hostile provocation by NK against ROK will stretch US resources even further.
China has “always” seemed to wish to constrain NK, but with Taiwan 2025 seemingly on the cards, then it is at least rational for them to also go along with this to a point.
It is beginning to look like the USA has picked a bigger fight than it bargained for. However as this conflict widens and expands, so do the risks of uncontrolled escalation. Let us hope that cool heads prevail.

Posted by: marcjf | Sep 17 2023 15:23 utc | 17

Re North Korea, I would doubt that Russia would want or even need its troops. However I could easily envisage a situation where NK sends observers. I could also see a scenario where NK might want to test out its unique weapons – ie various MRLS etc. Even a few “special forces” volunteers – but no mass formations methinks.
It might be possible – even likely – that NK provides Russia with stocks of Soviet designed ammo in all the right calibres. Also, if Russia lifts sanctions the NK MIC can swing into gear. Imagine in a year’s time when NK has enough food, oil, power and raw materials along with tech transfer? Of course NK workers also could help develop infrastructure links between the two nations.
A bit of hostile provocation by NK against ROK will stretch US resources even further.
China has “always” seemed to wish to constrain NK, but with Taiwan 2025 seemingly on the cards, then it is at least rational for them to also go along with this to a point.
It is beginning to look like the USA has picked a bigger fight than it bargained for. However as this conflict widens and expands, so do the risks of uncontrolled escalation. Let us hope that cool heads prevail.

Posted by: marcjf | Sep 17 2023 15:23 utc | 18

Marcjf
The nk deals (whatever they are) maybe a the most beneficial for all sides.
Just a few month ago Russia was worried about an overheating economy due to a shortage in workforce (they are near full employment atm). NK can provide men for russian factories. Additionally russia may or may not get a number of old shells. In exchange NK will get some modern equipment but more than that it will be able to import all kinds of goods which will soften the suffering of the population.
Geopolitically it is assumed that most resources that go to taiwan were initially dedicated to south korea. The modernization of NK military will stretch US resources and may lead to diplomatic problems with south korea if it turns out that the USA doesnt provide the support they promised.
There is nothing good about the regime in NK but if the deals between russia and nk lead to less hunger and suffering among nkoreans i guess it ultimately is a good thing.

Posted by: Orgel | Sep 17 2023 15:38 utc | 19

Marcjf
The nk deals (whatever they are) maybe a the most beneficial for all sides.
Just a few month ago Russia was worried about an overheating economy due to a shortage in workforce (they are near full employment atm). NK can provide men for russian factories. Additionally russia may or may not get a number of old shells. In exchange NK will get some modern equipment but more than that it will be able to import all kinds of goods which will soften the suffering of the population.
Geopolitically it is assumed that most resources that go to taiwan were initially dedicated to south korea. The modernization of NK military will stretch US resources and may lead to diplomatic problems with south korea if it turns out that the USA doesnt provide the support they promised.
There is nothing good about the regime in NK but if the deals between russia and nk lead to less hunger and suffering among nkoreans i guess it ultimately is a good thing.

Posted by: Orgel | Sep 17 2023 15:38 utc | 20

Posted by: JessDTruth | Sep 17 2023 15:01 utc | 8
Posted by: Observer | Sep 17 2023 15:06 utc | 9
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@JessDTruth Thank you for your response.
@Observer Fanaticism and too much zeal are a turnoff, even if we’re on the same side.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 17 2023 15:47 utc | 21

Posted by: JessDTruth | Sep 17 2023 15:01 utc | 8
Posted by: Observer | Sep 17 2023 15:06 utc | 9
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@JessDTruth Thank you for your response.
@Observer Fanaticism and too much zeal are a turnoff, even if we’re on the same side.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 17 2023 15:47 utc | 22

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I sense that Ukraine will be out of manpower almost any minute?
It doesn’t appear they could last through the winter?
When the line collapses will the Russians rush in?
Kiev had since 2014 to construct defenses, so I wouldn’t.
After Russia secures the four oblasts they will have met their constitutional requirements?
That necessary slow go would be when the west tries to re-establish an offensive? Or a defensive line further back?
They may need to make a DMZ to prevent shelling of those oblasts.
Only the SMO commitments would remain?
There is no doubt in my mind Russia has the upper hand. That said, I don’t believe they’ll get over-confident and rush in. Besides there are some more benefits to be gained. The people running the Ukrainian operation, the west, have come up with some pretty good tricks to execute attacks within Russia and behind the lines. Russia seems to have been adjusting their defenses to address said maneuvering each time. The west is showing all their “plays” if you use a preseason football game as a comparison. You never do that. You wait for the games that count.
Russia on the other hand I believe has a lot of “plays” they haven’t exposed. The first time I heard the phrase,” new physical principles” was in 1982. A physics professor in Colorado told me that discussion of the science behind directed energy beam weapons was being openly discussed in Russian Physics magazines and then all of the sudden disappeared. March 1982 was when Reagan announced, “Star Wars”. I would bet such research was suspended during Russia’s gangster capitalism period, but was revived after that. I suspect we don’t have a clue what they have.
Comments?

Posted by: GEORGE CHAMBERLAIN | Sep 17 2023 15:56 utc | 23

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I sense that Ukraine will be out of manpower almost any minute?
It doesn’t appear they could last through the winter?
When the line collapses will the Russians rush in?
Kiev had since 2014 to construct defenses, so I wouldn’t.
After Russia secures the four oblasts they will have met their constitutional requirements?
That necessary slow go would be when the west tries to re-establish an offensive? Or a defensive line further back?
They may need to make a DMZ to prevent shelling of those oblasts.
Only the SMO commitments would remain?
There is no doubt in my mind Russia has the upper hand. That said, I don’t believe they’ll get over-confident and rush in. Besides there are some more benefits to be gained. The people running the Ukrainian operation, the west, have come up with some pretty good tricks to execute attacks within Russia and behind the lines. Russia seems to have been adjusting their defenses to address said maneuvering each time. The west is showing all their “plays” if you use a preseason football game as a comparison. You never do that. You wait for the games that count.
Russia on the other hand I believe has a lot of “plays” they haven’t exposed. The first time I heard the phrase,” new physical principles” was in 1982. A physics professor in Colorado told me that discussion of the science behind directed energy beam weapons was being openly discussed in Russian Physics magazines and then all of the sudden disappeared. March 1982 was when Reagan announced, “Star Wars”. I would bet such research was suspended during Russia’s gangster capitalism period, but was revived after that. I suspect we don’t have a clue what they have.
Comments?

Posted by: GEORGE CHAMBERLAIN | Sep 17 2023 15:56 utc | 24

Zelensky will be given the pistol with which Hitler shot himself.
A buyout of Walther PP 7.65 mm has appeared on a popular Ukrainian classifieds website. The author emphasizes that this is for “his friend” Volodymyr Z.
https://izi.ua/uk/p-79325434-kuplyu-kolektsiyniy-pistolet-walther-pp-7-65-mm
Will Zelya follow Hitler’s example? Does he have a choice?
by @otryadkovpaka
https://t.me/ukr_leaks_eng/5939

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 17 2023 16:25 utc | 25

Zelensky will be given the pistol with which Hitler shot himself.
A buyout of Walther PP 7.65 mm has appeared on a popular Ukrainian classifieds website. The author emphasizes that this is for “his friend” Volodymyr Z.
https://izi.ua/uk/p-79325434-kuplyu-kolektsiyniy-pistolet-walther-pp-7-65-mm
Will Zelya follow Hitler’s example? Does he have a choice?
by @otryadkovpaka
https://t.me/ukr_leaks_eng/5939

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 17 2023 16:25 utc | 26

John Helmer, on the US attempt to repeat Napoleon’s continental system to isolate Russia, with same end results.

In the very long history of men and women who snatch defeat from the jaws of victory; miss the forest for the trees; and turn a molehill of profit into a mountain of loss, the US, British and German attempt to stop the tankers which carry Russian oil and gas to market is an exceptional failure.
It’s exceptional in the same way, and for the same reason of strategic miscalculation that Napoleon’s “Continental System” failed to destroy British trade with Europe – but destroyed the French economy instead. That was 217 years ago – France has never recovered from the damage the over-confident, miscalculating Napoleon did to the French position in Europe’s seaborne trade.
Napoleon multiplied the catastrophic cost of his misjudgement by deciding that, in order to stop the smuggling and bypass trade, and enforce his blockade, he should invade Spain, Portugal and Russia, and close their ports. Russia then buried Napoleon twice — once in Moscow in 1812, then in Paris in 1814, before he and the French army were finished off by others at Waterloo.
This time round, the NATO blockade of the Russian maritime trade is Napoleonic in the obviousness of the miscalculation; it is also Napoleonic in the refusal to acknowledge defeat.
So stubborn is this American blindness that even the Greek shipowners, stalwart defenders of the US occupation of Greece since 1945, cannot resist cashing in on the profits to be made from carrying Russian oil and gas across the sea. This is despite every attempt the arch US coup plotter, Geoffrey Pyatt – now State Department inspector of “energy resources”, formerly US ambassador to Athens and before that US ambassador to Kiev — is making to persuade, deter, threaten, and hurt them.
The defeat of the war against Russia on the land has yet to reach its Waterloo. The US, British and German idea of escalating the war on the Dnieper River battlefields westwards to Kiev and Lvov will become as obvious as Waterloo in a few months’ time.
https://johnhelmer.net/the-us-strategy-against-russia-is-repeating-napoleons-continental-system-repeating-napoleons-defeat/

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 17 2023 16:31 utc | 27

John Helmer, on the US attempt to repeat Napoleon’s continental system to isolate Russia, with same end results.

In the very long history of men and women who snatch defeat from the jaws of victory; miss the forest for the trees; and turn a molehill of profit into a mountain of loss, the US, British and German attempt to stop the tankers which carry Russian oil and gas to market is an exceptional failure.
It’s exceptional in the same way, and for the same reason of strategic miscalculation that Napoleon’s “Continental System” failed to destroy British trade with Europe – but destroyed the French economy instead. That was 217 years ago – France has never recovered from the damage the over-confident, miscalculating Napoleon did to the French position in Europe’s seaborne trade.
Napoleon multiplied the catastrophic cost of his misjudgement by deciding that, in order to stop the smuggling and bypass trade, and enforce his blockade, he should invade Spain, Portugal and Russia, and close their ports. Russia then buried Napoleon twice — once in Moscow in 1812, then in Paris in 1814, before he and the French army were finished off by others at Waterloo.
This time round, the NATO blockade of the Russian maritime trade is Napoleonic in the obviousness of the miscalculation; it is also Napoleonic in the refusal to acknowledge defeat.
So stubborn is this American blindness that even the Greek shipowners, stalwart defenders of the US occupation of Greece since 1945, cannot resist cashing in on the profits to be made from carrying Russian oil and gas across the sea. This is despite every attempt the arch US coup plotter, Geoffrey Pyatt – now State Department inspector of “energy resources”, formerly US ambassador to Athens and before that US ambassador to Kiev — is making to persuade, deter, threaten, and hurt them.
The defeat of the war against Russia on the land has yet to reach its Waterloo. The US, British and German idea of escalating the war on the Dnieper River battlefields westwards to Kiev and Lvov will become as obvious as Waterloo in a few months’ time.
https://johnhelmer.net/the-us-strategy-against-russia-is-repeating-napoleons-continental-system-repeating-napoleons-defeat/

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 17 2023 16:31 utc | 28

Has Russia squeezed the Robotyne pimple yet?

Posted by: Figleaf23 | Sep 17 2023 16:32 utc | 29

Has Russia squeezed the Robotyne pimple yet?

Posted by: Figleaf23 | Sep 17 2023 16:32 utc | 30

17/sept23 no 15 figleaf
That made me laugh out loud
Thanks C

Posted by: Cadell | Sep 17 2023 16:44 utc | 31

17/sept23 no 15 figleaf
That made me laugh out loud
Thanks C

Posted by: Cadell | Sep 17 2023 16:44 utc | 32

observer i think is on the side of the ukronazis. i welcome the correction if wrong.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 17 2023 16:49 utc | 33

observer i think is on the side of the ukronazis. i welcome the correction if wrong.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 17 2023 16:49 utc | 34

Will Zelya follow Hitler’s example? Does he have a choice?
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 17 2023 16:25 utc | 13
When he’s no longer useful, he’ll be “retired”

Posted by: PalmaSailor | Sep 17 2023 16:53 utc | 35

Will Zelya follow Hitler’s example? Does he have a choice?
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 17 2023 16:25 utc | 13
When he’s no longer useful, he’ll be “retired”

Posted by: PalmaSailor | Sep 17 2023 16:53 utc | 36

Posted by: marcjf | Sep 17 2023 15:23 utc | 9
The North Korea thing is more about employing NK workforce in projects in Far East Russia, and operating various production plants. They might send some weapons to be tested in Ukraine, but it’s really not the main theme. Sure, a deal may also include 152mm shells etc. But weapons are secondary compared to other things.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 17 2023 16:56 utc | 37

Posted by: marcjf | Sep 17 2023 15:23 utc | 9
The North Korea thing is more about employing NK workforce in projects in Far East Russia, and operating various production plants. They might send some weapons to be tested in Ukraine, but it’s really not the main theme. Sure, a deal may also include 152mm shells etc. But weapons are secondary compared to other things.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 17 2023 16:56 utc | 38

While I enjoy the content and the comrades, this is about as far away from Bertolt Brecht as one could get.

Posted by: Duncan Idaho | Sep 17 2023 17:08 utc | 39

While I enjoy the content and the comrades, this is about as far away from Bertolt Brecht as one could get.

Posted by: Duncan Idaho | Sep 17 2023 17:08 utc | 40

The Western press writes that the United States is not yet ready to transfer long-range ATACMS missiles to Ukraine.
This is precisely the topic that the meeting between Ze and Biden will cover. If Zelensky fails to convince Joe to transfer this type of weapons to Ukraine and raise the stakes in the game, then the meeting as a whole can be considered empty, as we insided earlier.
For Zelensky, a trip to the states could turn out to be “negative,” like the summer NATO summit, which lowered the authority of the President of Ukraine.

https://t.me/legitimniy/16268

Posted by: Down South | Sep 17 2023 17:11 utc | 41

The Western press writes that the United States is not yet ready to transfer long-range ATACMS missiles to Ukraine.
This is precisely the topic that the meeting between Ze and Biden will cover. If Zelensky fails to convince Joe to transfer this type of weapons to Ukraine and raise the stakes in the game, then the meeting as a whole can be considered empty, as we insided earlier.
For Zelensky, a trip to the states could turn out to be “negative,” like the summer NATO summit, which lowered the authority of the President of Ukraine.

https://t.me/legitimniy/16268

Posted by: Down South | Sep 17 2023 17:11 utc | 42

We confirm our colleagues’ rumors that the Office of the President is going on the defensive. Everyone has already written off the offensive. The Russian offensive may be much more sensitive, and it’s worth preparing for it.
The task of the Ukrainian Armed Forces is to, situationally, indicatively, achieve results before September 19, so that Ze can sell it to Western partners as a success, while knocking out further support.
Next, the Ukrainian Armed Forces go on the defensive. Especially in the Odessa direction.

https://t.me/legitimniy/16227

The DPRK’s weapons and ammunition are needed by the Russian Federation for the new 300 thousand contract soldiers who have now been recruited and are being prepared for a future offensive. They need to be reinforced with new MLRS, artillery and ammunition.
According to preliminary data, lightning-fast deliveries from the DPRK will give the Russian Federation advantages for opening new fronts.
In addition, the DPRK can easily supply “Chinese replicas” to the Russian Federation under its own brand, and this will not be considered direct participation of the PRC in the case of “military assistance” to Russia.
This is why Zelensky is tightening mobilization. Getting ready for defense.

https://t.me/legitimniy/16269

Posted by: Down South | Sep 17 2023 17:13 utc | 43

We confirm our colleagues’ rumors that the Office of the President is going on the defensive. Everyone has already written off the offensive. The Russian offensive may be much more sensitive, and it’s worth preparing for it.
The task of the Ukrainian Armed Forces is to, situationally, indicatively, achieve results before September 19, so that Ze can sell it to Western partners as a success, while knocking out further support.
Next, the Ukrainian Armed Forces go on the defensive. Especially in the Odessa direction.

https://t.me/legitimniy/16227

The DPRK’s weapons and ammunition are needed by the Russian Federation for the new 300 thousand contract soldiers who have now been recruited and are being prepared for a future offensive. They need to be reinforced with new MLRS, artillery and ammunition.
According to preliminary data, lightning-fast deliveries from the DPRK will give the Russian Federation advantages for opening new fronts.
In addition, the DPRK can easily supply “Chinese replicas” to the Russian Federation under its own brand, and this will not be considered direct participation of the PRC in the case of “military assistance” to Russia.
This is why Zelensky is tightening mobilization. Getting ready for defense.

https://t.me/legitimniy/16269

Posted by: Down South | Sep 17 2023 17:13 utc | 44

🇺🇦 APU losses
The statement by the Poltava military commissar that the Ukrainian Armed Forces lost 80-90% of those recruited last fall caused a lot of noise.
Initially, they didn’t want to comment, but since it has already gone online and, moreover, there are comments that these are still underestimated numbers, let’s ask ourselves this question.
It is now being discussed that the military commissar did not have the right to disclose these figures and that he should be punished.
We have a counter question: does society have the right to know the price it pays when fighting? Or not?
Is it freedom to not have the right to know the price?
Probably, during the war it is impossible to do otherwise. War is not a restaurant where the price of any dish is indicated.
But you also can’t deceive people by telling them about 2-3 weeks, 3-4 missile strikes, coffee in Yalta in the spring and the Russians will run away.
But the fucking reality is this: the authorities are lying, raising the price of war every time, so that society is not ready to leave the battle with obvious losses, having paid such a high price!!

https://t.me/ZeRada1/15778

When Ukrainians learn the whole truth about this war, many heroes and idols will become traitors/enemies.
It is already clear to everyone that many functionaries of the Office of the President make money from blood, and the mobilization of the sick is a necessary measure, since there are simply no healthy people left in the country.
Now information about losses has become public, and the figure of 80% seems simply catastrophic, but that is the reality of war.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/19689

Posted by: Down South | Sep 17 2023 17:16 utc | 45

🇺🇦 APU losses
The statement by the Poltava military commissar that the Ukrainian Armed Forces lost 80-90% of those recruited last fall caused a lot of noise.
Initially, they didn’t want to comment, but since it has already gone online and, moreover, there are comments that these are still underestimated numbers, let’s ask ourselves this question.
It is now being discussed that the military commissar did not have the right to disclose these figures and that he should be punished.
We have a counter question: does society have the right to know the price it pays when fighting? Or not?
Is it freedom to not have the right to know the price?
Probably, during the war it is impossible to do otherwise. War is not a restaurant where the price of any dish is indicated.
But you also can’t deceive people by telling them about 2-3 weeks, 3-4 missile strikes, coffee in Yalta in the spring and the Russians will run away.
But the fucking reality is this: the authorities are lying, raising the price of war every time, so that society is not ready to leave the battle with obvious losses, having paid such a high price!!

https://t.me/ZeRada1/15778

When Ukrainians learn the whole truth about this war, many heroes and idols will become traitors/enemies.
It is already clear to everyone that many functionaries of the Office of the President make money from blood, and the mobilization of the sick is a necessary measure, since there are simply no healthy people left in the country.
Now information about losses has become public, and the figure of 80% seems simply catastrophic, but that is the reality of war.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/19689

Posted by: Down South | Sep 17 2023 17:16 utc | 46

Ukrainians hate military commissars, and consider mobilization to be compromised when no one touches the relatives of officials/politicians, while ordinary citizens are stolen from the streets.
In Lvov, military commissars tried to forcefully detain a man late at night. But with the support of people who started screaming from nearby windows, he was able to break free and run away.
Judging by the video, the military began to use force on the civilian without the presence of the police, trying to push him into the bead.
But they started shouting at them that they were “worse than kats…pov” and other swear words. Meanwhile, the guy was able to wriggle out and run away, and the TCC employees did not pursue him.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/19695

Posted by: Down South | Sep 17 2023 17:19 utc | 47

Ukrainians hate military commissars, and consider mobilization to be compromised when no one touches the relatives of officials/politicians, while ordinary citizens are stolen from the streets.
In Lvov, military commissars tried to forcefully detain a man late at night. But with the support of people who started screaming from nearby windows, he was able to break free and run away.
Judging by the video, the military began to use force on the civilian without the presence of the police, trying to push him into the bead.
But they started shouting at them that they were “worse than kats…pov” and other swear words. Meanwhile, the guy was able to wriggle out and run away, and the TCC employees did not pursue him.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/19695

Posted by: Down South | Sep 17 2023 17:19 utc | 48

Western experts are confident that the Ukrainian Armed Forces need to prepare defensive structures in order to maintain their positions. Zaluzhny expressed a similar position at headquarters.
Ukraine’s next enemy on the battlefield will be bad weather, writes The Wall Street Journal.
Future downpours could wash out roads, and freezing weather will make basic operations difficult, the article said.
While the weather is hot and mostly dry, the Ukrainian Armed Forces are trying to advance. However, the path forward remains fraught with danger.
Russian warplanes and drones drop bombs and locate Ukrainian troops for artillery attacks.
The operator of a drone of the Ukrainian air reconnaissance unit, in a conversation with the publication, admitted that Russian soldiers “are fighting very stubbornly” and full-scale battles are being waged “for every house and every trench.”
At the same time, the publication quotes the words of an unnamed representative of the Ministry of Defense of one of the Western countries, who said that around the end of October Ukraine will need to move from offensive actions to holding positions and protecting civilian infrastructure from Russian drones and missiles.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/19696

Posted by: Down South | Sep 17 2023 17:21 utc | 49

Western experts are confident that the Ukrainian Armed Forces need to prepare defensive structures in order to maintain their positions. Zaluzhny expressed a similar position at headquarters.
Ukraine’s next enemy on the battlefield will be bad weather, writes The Wall Street Journal.
Future downpours could wash out roads, and freezing weather will make basic operations difficult, the article said.
While the weather is hot and mostly dry, the Ukrainian Armed Forces are trying to advance. However, the path forward remains fraught with danger.
Russian warplanes and drones drop bombs and locate Ukrainian troops for artillery attacks.
The operator of a drone of the Ukrainian air reconnaissance unit, in a conversation with the publication, admitted that Russian soldiers “are fighting very stubbornly” and full-scale battles are being waged “for every house and every trench.”
At the same time, the publication quotes the words of an unnamed representative of the Ministry of Defense of one of the Western countries, who said that around the end of October Ukraine will need to move from offensive actions to holding positions and protecting civilian infrastructure from Russian drones and missiles.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/19696

Posted by: Down South | Sep 17 2023 17:21 utc | 50

Ukrainian border guards are no longer releasing from the country civilians of military age who have been removed from military registration.
Local human rights activists report the first case of detention on the Ukrainian-Polish border.
People who were not subject to mobilization began to be turned away and sent for a second medical examination to the military registration and enlistment office.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/19698

Posted by: Down South | Sep 17 2023 17:22 utc | 51

Ukrainian border guards are no longer releasing from the country civilians of military age who have been removed from military registration.
Local human rights activists report the first case of detention on the Ukrainian-Polish border.
People who were not subject to mobilization began to be turned away and sent for a second medical examination to the military registration and enlistment office.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/19698

Posted by: Down South | Sep 17 2023 17:22 utc | 52

War of Attrition – Five elements of the West’s new strategy in the war against Russia
The transition of the Americans in the war in Ukraine to a strategy of war of attrition is more than a serious threat to us. Yes, the United States made a grave miscalculation by betting everything on Russia’s decisive military defeat during the spring-summer campaign. As a result, the Ukrainian Armed Forces suffered heavy losses in people and equipment (up to 50 thousand killed, more than 200 tanks, 200 guns, and up to 1,800 armored vehicles of all classes), without breaking through the Russian defense line, and getting stuck in the support zone.
But, fighting with foreign human material, and completely controlling the mentality of the Ukrainian population, the United States can ignore military failures and continue waging war, which is what they are doing, rebuilding their strategy on the fly. It is already possible to identify the main elements of the new strategy.
The first is a bet on “infantry warfare” – “face-to-face” with the massive use of artillery. Its essence is simple – methodical attacks by infantry groups, followed by artillery attacks along the front line. The goal is to force the Russians to either, save personnel, give up positions, allow the Ukrainian Armed Forces to move forward, or accept close combat and suffer losses comparable to the losses of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
Use military equipment minimally, preserving and accumulating it for the next stage of the offensive or local attacks. By the end of December, the main losses of armored vehicles and artillery will be replenished using American reserves and transfers from NATO troops. The task is to move the war to a level at which the losses of the Russian Armed Forces in people will become sensitive to Russian society and, in the long term, a factor of social tension.
The second is the maximum transfer of the war deep into Russian territory with the help of long-range missiles, drones (whose production is planned to be increased several times), and sabotage activities with attacks on vulnerable military and industrial infrastructure. The well-known tactic of “a thousand pinpricks”, in which there is a “cumulative effect” of damage, as well as demoralization of society, creates in it the feeling that Ukraine firmly holds the initiative and is imposing its war strategy on Russia.
The third is, with the help of continuous attacks from the air and sea, the final transformation of Crimea into a front-line zone, which should demoralize the Crimean population, split it, provoke general discontent among Crimeans with the Russian authorities, and prepare them for the “return” of Ukraine here.
The fourth is the maximum strengthening of the air defense of the main rear areas, the creation of “security zones” where it is possible to deploy military production, as well as rear logistics and training centers. To this end, in 2024, it is planned to transfer at least three more Patriot batteries from NATO troops in Europe, as well as at least eight IRIS-T and NASAMS batteries.
The fifth is the formation of “new” Air Forces of the Ukrainian Armed Forces during 2024 with their transition to the Western air fleet with the transfer to them of at least 100-150 fighters and fighter-bombers, carriers of cruise missiles within a year.
The general task is to reformat Ukraine within 2024 from a country waging war in the east into a single military space, where everything is subordinated to one task – war to a victorious end.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/63452

Posted by: Down South | Sep 17 2023 17:27 utc | 53

War of Attrition – Five elements of the West’s new strategy in the war against Russia
The transition of the Americans in the war in Ukraine to a strategy of war of attrition is more than a serious threat to us. Yes, the United States made a grave miscalculation by betting everything on Russia’s decisive military defeat during the spring-summer campaign. As a result, the Ukrainian Armed Forces suffered heavy losses in people and equipment (up to 50 thousand killed, more than 200 tanks, 200 guns, and up to 1,800 armored vehicles of all classes), without breaking through the Russian defense line, and getting stuck in the support zone.
But, fighting with foreign human material, and completely controlling the mentality of the Ukrainian population, the United States can ignore military failures and continue waging war, which is what they are doing, rebuilding their strategy on the fly. It is already possible to identify the main elements of the new strategy.
The first is a bet on “infantry warfare” – “face-to-face” with the massive use of artillery. Its essence is simple – methodical attacks by infantry groups, followed by artillery attacks along the front line. The goal is to force the Russians to either, save personnel, give up positions, allow the Ukrainian Armed Forces to move forward, or accept close combat and suffer losses comparable to the losses of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
Use military equipment minimally, preserving and accumulating it for the next stage of the offensive or local attacks. By the end of December, the main losses of armored vehicles and artillery will be replenished using American reserves and transfers from NATO troops. The task is to move the war to a level at which the losses of the Russian Armed Forces in people will become sensitive to Russian society and, in the long term, a factor of social tension.
The second is the maximum transfer of the war deep into Russian territory with the help of long-range missiles, drones (whose production is planned to be increased several times), and sabotage activities with attacks on vulnerable military and industrial infrastructure. The well-known tactic of “a thousand pinpricks”, in which there is a “cumulative effect” of damage, as well as demoralization of society, creates in it the feeling that Ukraine firmly holds the initiative and is imposing its war strategy on Russia.
The third is, with the help of continuous attacks from the air and sea, the final transformation of Crimea into a front-line zone, which should demoralize the Crimean population, split it, provoke general discontent among Crimeans with the Russian authorities, and prepare them for the “return” of Ukraine here.
The fourth is the maximum strengthening of the air defense of the main rear areas, the creation of “security zones” where it is possible to deploy military production, as well as rear logistics and training centers. To this end, in 2024, it is planned to transfer at least three more Patriot batteries from NATO troops in Europe, as well as at least eight IRIS-T and NASAMS batteries.
The fifth is the formation of “new” Air Forces of the Ukrainian Armed Forces during 2024 with their transition to the Western air fleet with the transfer to them of at least 100-150 fighters and fighter-bombers, carriers of cruise missiles within a year.
The general task is to reformat Ukraine within 2024 from a country waging war in the east into a single military space, where everything is subordinated to one task – war to a victorious end.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/63452

Posted by: Down South | Sep 17 2023 17:27 utc | 54

A record wheat harvest made Russia the No. 1 player in the grain market
Moscow is confidently consolidating its dominant position in the wheat market, reports Bloomberg. This was made possible thanks to a record harvest and low cost of production.
“At the moment, Russia determines the price,” says Hélène Duflo, grain market analyst at Strategie Grains. Since Russian wheat has no competitors, Moscow is trying to set a minimum price threshold.
Such a measure will not only reassure Russian farmers who are dissatisfied with the reduction in income but will also replenish the Kremlin’s treasury through additional tax revenues. In addition, this will allow the Russian Federation to take control of the global grain market, the author of the article believes.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/63438

Posted by: Down South | Sep 17 2023 17:30 utc | 55

A record wheat harvest made Russia the No. 1 player in the grain market
Moscow is confidently consolidating its dominant position in the wheat market, reports Bloomberg. This was made possible thanks to a record harvest and low cost of production.
“At the moment, Russia determines the price,” says Hélène Duflo, grain market analyst at Strategie Grains. Since Russian wheat has no competitors, Moscow is trying to set a minimum price threshold.
Such a measure will not only reassure Russian farmers who are dissatisfied with the reduction in income but will also replenish the Kremlin’s treasury through additional tax revenues. In addition, this will allow the Russian Federation to take control of the global grain market, the author of the article believes.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/63438

Posted by: Down South | Sep 17 2023 17:30 utc | 56

Brian Becker gives history of NATO
I learned a few things from Becker’s 55 minute lecture– well worth the time, in my opinion..
He asserts that after WW2 the USSR wanted to join NATO but demanded that Germany not be allowed membership. The US then denied USSR membership and let W. Germany in! Is that true? I knew that Putin talked about it but this is back in the late 1940s.
Lots of detail on Ukraine and its relation with Russia over the centuries, then Becker ends with a powerful appeal to his/our former friends (or current friends) who marched side by side with us against the Vietnam war (and the 80s war in Central America) and who now support Biden’s war because of…. Trump and Putin. I might try sending this to some of my friends– we did a fair amount of sanctuary work in the 80s including trips to Guatemala and El Salvador, they are all blue anons now and our friendship is fraying.
ps I put this under the Ukraine thread because his main focus is on that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpZhF8KrtRo

Posted by: migueljose | Sep 17 2023 17:37 utc | 57

Brian Becker gives history of NATO
I learned a few things from Becker’s 55 minute lecture– well worth the time, in my opinion..
He asserts that after WW2 the USSR wanted to join NATO but demanded that Germany not be allowed membership. The US then denied USSR membership and let W. Germany in! Is that true? I knew that Putin talked about it but this is back in the late 1940s.
Lots of detail on Ukraine and its relation with Russia over the centuries, then Becker ends with a powerful appeal to his/our former friends (or current friends) who marched side by side with us against the Vietnam war (and the 80s war in Central America) and who now support Biden’s war because of…. Trump and Putin. I might try sending this to some of my friends– we did a fair amount of sanctuary work in the 80s including trips to Guatemala and El Salvador, they are all blue anons now and our friendship is fraying.
ps I put this under the Ukraine thread because his main focus is on that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpZhF8KrtRo

Posted by: migueljose | Sep 17 2023 17:37 utc | 58

The Russians (IMO) have used a tactic, which enables them to deflect AFU advance to a direction they want. It works similar as the path of least resistance for water flow.
By holding on hard to Rabotyne, they derailed the AFU original plan, and AFU was “allowed” to move toward the Verbove direction. AFU also neglected the flank, north-north-west of Rabotyne, which is one of the two or perhaps only supply road in the salient. The Russians still have forward observers and drone operators operating in that particular area, north of Rabotyne.
Just a few days ago the news was that AFU pulled out the elite 82nd brigade responsible for the attack toward Verbove. It basically means there’s very little means to push any more in the Verbove direction. Dima of Military summary also said AFU has tried to pile up more force east of Novopokrovsk, but so far they haven’t really attempted attacks. They are sitting stationary there and subjected to fire.
Of course, that may change soon as AFU reportedly controls the southern end of Robotyne including the heights.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 17 2023 17:44 utc | 59

The Russians (IMO) have used a tactic, which enables them to deflect AFU advance to a direction they want. It works similar as the path of least resistance for water flow.
By holding on hard to Rabotyne, they derailed the AFU original plan, and AFU was “allowed” to move toward the Verbove direction. AFU also neglected the flank, north-north-west of Rabotyne, which is one of the two or perhaps only supply road in the salient. The Russians still have forward observers and drone operators operating in that particular area, north of Rabotyne.
Just a few days ago the news was that AFU pulled out the elite 82nd brigade responsible for the attack toward Verbove. It basically means there’s very little means to push any more in the Verbove direction. Dima of Military summary also said AFU has tried to pile up more force east of Novopokrovsk, but so far they haven’t really attempted attacks. They are sitting stationary there and subjected to fire.
Of course, that may change soon as AFU reportedly controls the southern end of Robotyne including the heights.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 17 2023 17:44 utc | 60

Answer to @15 FigLeaf.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 17 2023 17:45 utc | 61

Answer to @15 FigLeaf.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 17 2023 17:45 utc | 62

Just remember that when your kids and grandkids are sent to take Russia and forever remain as a stain in some foreign field – it’s because we are Good fighting Evil’
Posted by: DunGroanin | Sep 17 2023 15:14 utc | 8
I think the inevitable woke draft of women in the US and Europe might make this warning applicable to the entire western world in due course.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 17 2023 17:54 utc | 63

Just remember that when your kids and grandkids are sent to take Russia and forever remain as a stain in some foreign field – it’s because we are Good fighting Evil’
Posted by: DunGroanin | Sep 17 2023 15:14 utc | 8
I think the inevitable woke draft of women in the US and Europe might make this warning applicable to the entire western world in due course.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 17 2023 17:54 utc | 64

I would love to see b do an article about the current German military capabilities and readiness after the many generous gifts to the Ukrainian cause. Many commentators have stated that for all practical purposes, there is no German military. With b’s connections and insights, I would sure value his assessment.

Posted by: meshpal | Sep 17 2023 17:56 utc | 65

I would love to see b do an article about the current German military capabilities and readiness after the many generous gifts to the Ukrainian cause. Many commentators have stated that for all practical purposes, there is no German military. With b’s connections and insights, I would sure value his assessment.

Posted by: meshpal | Sep 17 2023 17:56 utc | 66

While I enjoy the content and the comrades, this is about as far away from Bertolt Brecht as one could get.
Posted by: Duncan Idaho | Sep 17 2023 17:08 utc | 20
In what sense?

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 17 2023 17:57 utc | 67

While I enjoy the content and the comrades, this is about as far away from Bertolt Brecht as one could get.
Posted by: Duncan Idaho | Sep 17 2023 17:08 utc | 20
In what sense?

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 17 2023 17:57 utc | 68

There is nothing good about the regime in NK but if the deals between russia and nk lead to less hunger and suffering among nkoreans i guess it ultimately is a good thing.
Posted by: Orgel | Sep 17 2023 15:38 utc | 10
North Korea is sovereign, the society has chosen its own path, it is and was a people’s movement.
South Korea was created by the interference of the USA, which wanted to continue the previous colonial rule of the Japanese. That is why the US army is there.
NK cannot be held responsible for the consequences of the sanctions, which, under pressure from the USA, also prevent other nations from exchanging with North Korea.
Iraq, for example, had oil, but could not even buy medicine, etc., because of sanctions.
Sanctions are economic wars.
NK has not bent over so far, not for a few dollars and not for a few dollars more.
As a German, one can only envy NK for its sovereignty.
But you will have your ideas of a compliant society, just no knowledge about NK.

Posted by: 600w | Sep 17 2023 18:05 utc | 69

There is nothing good about the regime in NK but if the deals between russia and nk lead to less hunger and suffering among nkoreans i guess it ultimately is a good thing.
Posted by: Orgel | Sep 17 2023 15:38 utc | 10
North Korea is sovereign, the society has chosen its own path, it is and was a people’s movement.
South Korea was created by the interference of the USA, which wanted to continue the previous colonial rule of the Japanese. That is why the US army is there.
NK cannot be held responsible for the consequences of the sanctions, which, under pressure from the USA, also prevent other nations from exchanging with North Korea.
Iraq, for example, had oil, but could not even buy medicine, etc., because of sanctions.
Sanctions are economic wars.
NK has not bent over so far, not for a few dollars and not for a few dollars more.
As a German, one can only envy NK for its sovereignty.
But you will have your ideas of a compliant society, just no knowledge about NK.

Posted by: 600w | Sep 17 2023 18:05 utc | 70

Silly Boy…Girl? Why would the mighty Russian military need NK? They are fighting with one-hand behind their back, haven’t you heard? The slow pace is deliberate.
Go read the Clobber Report for confirmation…the Russian military is completely trustworthy.
Posted by: Observer | Sep 17 2023 15:06 utc | 6
Amazing how a feeble attempt at Irony, displays the real Truth.
Any student of History knows NK has always had strings back to Russia. Putin, openly, is showing support to Rocket Man precisely because NK has South Korea and Japan within killing range. All the rest is ancillary.

Posted by: kupkee | Sep 17 2023 18:11 utc | 71

Silly Boy…Girl? Why would the mighty Russian military need NK? They are fighting with one-hand behind their back, haven’t you heard? The slow pace is deliberate.
Go read the Clobber Report for confirmation…the Russian military is completely trustworthy.
Posted by: Observer | Sep 17 2023 15:06 utc | 6
Amazing how a feeble attempt at Irony, displays the real Truth.
Any student of History knows NK has always had strings back to Russia. Putin, openly, is showing support to Rocket Man precisely because NK has South Korea and Japan within killing range. All the rest is ancillary.

Posted by: kupkee | Sep 17 2023 18:11 utc | 72

North Korea would send ammunition to Russia because they have huge stocks approaching shelf life that will be discarded/recycled soon if not used soon. Other items may be sent as a matter of getting field testing.

Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 17 2023 18:15 utc | 73

North Korea would send ammunition to Russia because they have huge stocks approaching shelf life that will be discarded/recycled soon if not used soon. Other items may be sent as a matter of getting field testing.

Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 17 2023 18:15 utc | 74

Posted by: migueljose | Sep 17 2023 17:37 utc | 29
Brian Becker gives history of NATO
I learned a few things from Becker’s 55 minute lecture– well worth the time, in my opinion..
He asserts that after WW2 the USSR wanted to join NATO but demanded that Germany not be allowed membership. The US then denied USSR membership and let W. Germany in! Is that true?
_________________________
The USSR, fearing the restoration of German militarism in West Germany, had suggested in 1954 that it join NATO, but this was rejected by the US. The Soviet request to join NATO arose in the aftermath of the Berlin Conference of January–February 1954. – Wikipedia
NATO welcomed West Germany as a member on 6 May 1955, a day after its status as an occupied country came to an end (the Bonn-Paris conventions came into effect on 5 May 1955)

Posted by: Tiano | Sep 17 2023 18:23 utc | 75

Posted by: migueljose | Sep 17 2023 17:37 utc | 29
Brian Becker gives history of NATO
I learned a few things from Becker’s 55 minute lecture– well worth the time, in my opinion..
He asserts that after WW2 the USSR wanted to join NATO but demanded that Germany not be allowed membership. The US then denied USSR membership and let W. Germany in! Is that true?
_________________________
The USSR, fearing the restoration of German militarism in West Germany, had suggested in 1954 that it join NATO, but this was rejected by the US. The Soviet request to join NATO arose in the aftermath of the Berlin Conference of January–February 1954. – Wikipedia
NATO welcomed West Germany as a member on 6 May 1955, a day after its status as an occupied country came to an end (the Bonn-Paris conventions came into effect on 5 May 1955)

Posted by: Tiano | Sep 17 2023 18:23 utc | 76

⚡️Prospects for the Rabotinsky ledge
Even though recently there have been no significant changes on the front line on the Rabotinsky salient, the Ukrainian Armed Forces are not at all going to abandon their plans: this can be judged by the number of transferred reserves that are today concentrated in Orekhovo and the surrounding area.
After coordinating the assault groups, they go to the front line to help the long-suffering 82nd brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. The attackers are given the same tasks: expanding the bridgehead with the help of attacks in 3 directions: 1) Kopani; 2) Rabotino; and 3) Verbovoe.
And if the attack at Kopani has no results, then in the Verbovoy area the Ukrainian Armed Forces were not so long ago able to advance to a populated area. After that, they got bogged down in positional battles in the lowlands, suffering significant losses. At the current stage, the main goal is the heights between Rabotino and Verbov, from which it will be possible to develop a further offensive.
However, the Armed Forces of Ukraine were unable to take these positions for several months because the importance of the front sector was also fully realized by the Russian Armed Forces. Without further advancement, it is not profitable to remain in the lowlands, so attacks will continue for the next few weeks at least, depending on the weather.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/63464

Posted by: Down South | Sep 17 2023 18:40 utc | 77

⚡️Prospects for the Rabotinsky ledge
Even though recently there have been no significant changes on the front line on the Rabotinsky salient, the Ukrainian Armed Forces are not at all going to abandon their plans: this can be judged by the number of transferred reserves that are today concentrated in Orekhovo and the surrounding area.
After coordinating the assault groups, they go to the front line to help the long-suffering 82nd brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. The attackers are given the same tasks: expanding the bridgehead with the help of attacks in 3 directions: 1) Kopani; 2) Rabotino; and 3) Verbovoe.
And if the attack at Kopani has no results, then in the Verbovoy area the Ukrainian Armed Forces were not so long ago able to advance to a populated area. After that, they got bogged down in positional battles in the lowlands, suffering significant losses. At the current stage, the main goal is the heights between Rabotino and Verbov, from which it will be possible to develop a further offensive.
However, the Armed Forces of Ukraine were unable to take these positions for several months because the importance of the front sector was also fully realized by the Russian Armed Forces. Without further advancement, it is not profitable to remain in the lowlands, so attacks will continue for the next few weeks at least, depending on the weather.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/63464

Posted by: Down South | Sep 17 2023 18:40 utc | 78

🏚️⚡️What’s happening in Kleshcheevka?
We understand perfectly well that different information from different telegram channels can be a little annoying and raise doubts about their objectivity, but this generally reflects the trend of the situation: Kleshcheevka is destroyed and there are very heavy battles going on there right now. The situation changes every half hour, so it is very difficult to say anything objectively.
From what we have: most of the settlement is located in the gray zone, where artillery is actively working. The main positions of the Russian Armed Forces are located behind the railway, from where counterattacks are carried out. The Ukrainian Armed Forces are coming from the north and west with infantry assault groups, trying with all their might to gain a foothold in the village. It will be very difficult to do this in any case.
In addition, fighting continues near Andreevka in the gray zone. The situation on the routes is tense. We will inform you as information becomes available.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/63469

Posted by: Down South | Sep 17 2023 18:42 utc | 79

🏚️⚡️What’s happening in Kleshcheevka?
We understand perfectly well that different information from different telegram channels can be a little annoying and raise doubts about their objectivity, but this generally reflects the trend of the situation: Kleshcheevka is destroyed and there are very heavy battles going on there right now. The situation changes every half hour, so it is very difficult to say anything objectively.
From what we have: most of the settlement is located in the gray zone, where artillery is actively working. The main positions of the Russian Armed Forces are located behind the railway, from where counterattacks are carried out. The Ukrainian Armed Forces are coming from the north and west with infantry assault groups, trying with all their might to gain a foothold in the village. It will be very difficult to do this in any case.
In addition, fighting continues near Andreevka in the gray zone. The situation on the routes is tense. We will inform you as information becomes available.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/63469

Posted by: Down South | Sep 17 2023 18:42 utc | 80

Kupkee @36-
Scared? Lol….
You should be-:)

Posted by: Robert Hope | Sep 17 2023 18:52 utc | 81

Kupkee @36-
Scared? Lol….
You should be-:)

Posted by: Robert Hope | Sep 17 2023 18:52 utc | 82

An importaint article detailing the pigs feeding at the trough of war continuation, as exhorted by nato’s Stoltenberg (and blinky); please note where blinky is wired in to profit from the continuation, at least until the last Ukrainian trooper.
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2023/09/no_author/military-industrial-complex-unraveled-exposed/
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In 2022, Teneo acquired a majority interest in Westexec. Westexec was founded by Anthony Blinken and Michele Flournoy in 2017. Their list of 40 advisors include: FORMER, National Security Advisors, US – UN Officials, US Ambassadors, CIA Directors, Special ops, Federal Reserve Directors, NASA, Department of Defense, a slew of generals from all military branches, etc… all having served during the Obama Administration.
Teneo is a Partner at the World Economic Forum.
What these Westexec advisors do is run the wars and staff the presidential offices to support their wars. They write the major media scripts that are distributed daily – and they write Biden’s teleprompts. Given the executive picks of Biden’s cabinet are fundamentally weak and ineffective, they were likely chosen for their malleability and basic uselessness so as to effectuate Westexec advisors.
Westexec clients have included Boeing and McKinsey & Co. Before being accepted into the “Cabal Club” one must first go through an intensive make-over at McKinsey. Once the make-over is complete, said person will be ‘elected’ into office or appointed into a cabinet position. Often book deals are the money laundering catalyst to help secure their loyalty.
McKinsey & Co is a partner at the World Economic Forum.
CVC Capital is a Partner at the World Economic Forum.
Michele Flournoy served under Bill Clinton and Barack Obama in the Department of Defense. Her father, George Flournoy was a cinematographer for – Paramount. Like Ash Carter, Flournoy was a hawkish advocate for ‘pre-emptive strikes’ against perceived enemies including Iran and North Korea. She also founded the Center For a New American Security (CNAS) in 2007.
Billed as being militaristic, CNAS funding comes from Northrup Grumman, Lockheed, Chevron, Raytheon (30 defense contractors), the UAE, BofA, Google, Microsoft, and The Open Society Foundation – among others. Speakers have included Hillary Clinton and General Petraeus. Their funders typically offer dual roles as advisors promoting military interventionism.
What we can extract from these NGO affiliates is that nongovernmental means stakeholder governmental.
Russia was taunted to go to war with Ukraine. China’s economy was destroyed by these NGO task forces to cripple it as a competitor. And the US is being ruled by bug eyed war hawks bent on making as much money as possible before Agenda 2030 coopts every global economy under the tutelage/totalitarian rule of Stakeholders.

Posted by: Taras 77 | Sep 17 2023 18:52 utc | 83

An importaint article detailing the pigs feeding at the trough of war continuation, as exhorted by nato’s Stoltenberg (and blinky); please note where blinky is wired in to profit from the continuation, at least until the last Ukrainian trooper.
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2023/09/no_author/military-industrial-complex-unraveled-exposed/
——————————————-
In 2022, Teneo acquired a majority interest in Westexec. Westexec was founded by Anthony Blinken and Michele Flournoy in 2017. Their list of 40 advisors include: FORMER, National Security Advisors, US – UN Officials, US Ambassadors, CIA Directors, Special ops, Federal Reserve Directors, NASA, Department of Defense, a slew of generals from all military branches, etc… all having served during the Obama Administration.
Teneo is a Partner at the World Economic Forum.
What these Westexec advisors do is run the wars and staff the presidential offices to support their wars. They write the major media scripts that are distributed daily – and they write Biden’s teleprompts. Given the executive picks of Biden’s cabinet are fundamentally weak and ineffective, they were likely chosen for their malleability and basic uselessness so as to effectuate Westexec advisors.
Westexec clients have included Boeing and McKinsey & Co. Before being accepted into the “Cabal Club” one must first go through an intensive make-over at McKinsey. Once the make-over is complete, said person will be ‘elected’ into office or appointed into a cabinet position. Often book deals are the money laundering catalyst to help secure their loyalty.
McKinsey & Co is a partner at the World Economic Forum.
CVC Capital is a Partner at the World Economic Forum.
Michele Flournoy served under Bill Clinton and Barack Obama in the Department of Defense. Her father, George Flournoy was a cinematographer for – Paramount. Like Ash Carter, Flournoy was a hawkish advocate for ‘pre-emptive strikes’ against perceived enemies including Iran and North Korea. She also founded the Center For a New American Security (CNAS) in 2007.
Billed as being militaristic, CNAS funding comes from Northrup Grumman, Lockheed, Chevron, Raytheon (30 defense contractors), the UAE, BofA, Google, Microsoft, and The Open Society Foundation – among others. Speakers have included Hillary Clinton and General Petraeus. Their funders typically offer dual roles as advisors promoting military interventionism.
What we can extract from these NGO affiliates is that nongovernmental means stakeholder governmental.
Russia was taunted to go to war with Ukraine. China’s economy was destroyed by these NGO task forces to cripple it as a competitor. And the US is being ruled by bug eyed war hawks bent on making as much money as possible before Agenda 2030 coopts every global economy under the tutelage/totalitarian rule of Stakeholders.

Posted by: Taras 77 | Sep 17 2023 18:52 utc | 84

Alexander Mercouris had excellent content as always.
Annalena Baerbock (foreign minister of Germany) said the west needs to support Ukraine because otherwise it would be beneficial to Chinese Xi Jinping. Mercouris concluded that Ukraine is actually sacrificed not as a way against Russia, but because it is a tool of instrument against China.
He also had analysis of the “North Korean shells”. It could actually be a cover for Chinese shells. China uses mostly 155mm caliber as most of their systems are of that caliber, but they retain some 152mm systems and could open a factory or two to produce those kind of shells very easily. So maybe NK shells are actually coming from China and/or China is replacing NK supplied shells, effectively same thing.
He also analyzed the RAND report some months ago, why US should avoid extended war in Ukraine. So, Stoltenberg and Nato are talking “long war in Ukraine”, but it’s highly doubtful Ukraine will have ability to last a “long war” strategy for very long. Blinken/Biden regime has essentially maneuvered US into the exact position RAND advised against. And they are already opening new fronts against China.
The British media is also souring about the counter-offensive in Ukraine, he had a few articles from the Teleraph. The British are also adamant to not allow any further pictures of destroyed Challenger tanks, therefore, Ukraine has decided to only use Leopard and Challenger tanks as remote artillery platforms. The Leopard with its smooth bore cannon is clearly not suited for that task, the Challenger might with its rifled cannon.
Also he had some more things on armament productions, needless to say, massively favoring Russia in contrast to Nato. One reason RU is playing the defensive game is because they are gearing up for the actual long war Nato is talking about but couldn’t really manage.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 17 2023 18:58 utc | 85

Alexander Mercouris had excellent content as always.
Annalena Baerbock (foreign minister of Germany) said the west needs to support Ukraine because otherwise it would be beneficial to Chinese Xi Jinping. Mercouris concluded that Ukraine is actually sacrificed not as a way against Russia, but because it is a tool of instrument against China.
He also had analysis of the “North Korean shells”. It could actually be a cover for Chinese shells. China uses mostly 155mm caliber as most of their systems are of that caliber, but they retain some 152mm systems and could open a factory or two to produce those kind of shells very easily. So maybe NK shells are actually coming from China and/or China is replacing NK supplied shells, effectively same thing.
He also analyzed the RAND report some months ago, why US should avoid extended war in Ukraine. So, Stoltenberg and Nato are talking “long war in Ukraine”, but it’s highly doubtful Ukraine will have ability to last a “long war” strategy for very long. Blinken/Biden regime has essentially maneuvered US into the exact position RAND advised against. And they are already opening new fronts against China.
The British media is also souring about the counter-offensive in Ukraine, he had a few articles from the Teleraph. The British are also adamant to not allow any further pictures of destroyed Challenger tanks, therefore, Ukraine has decided to only use Leopard and Challenger tanks as remote artillery platforms. The Leopard with its smooth bore cannon is clearly not suited for that task, the Challenger might with its rifled cannon.
Also he had some more things on armament productions, needless to say, massively favoring Russia in contrast to Nato. One reason RU is playing the defensive game is because they are gearing up for the actual long war Nato is talking about but couldn’t really manage.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 17 2023 18:58 utc | 86

Maybe, somebody stays alive because of this …

Since the launch of the Russian Defense Ministry’s Volga project, which helps Ukrainian servicemen survive, more than 3,500 people have already decided to surrender. This is reported by the telegram channel Colonelcassad.
“Since the launch of the Volga project… just over 3,500 enemy soldiers and officers have voluntarily surrendered. In fact, a whole brigade of “counterattacks”. The project certainly needs to be expanded. I urge readers to distribute materials related to Volga as much as possible, especially among Ukrainian citizens who are looking for a way to stay alive.
“Volga” is a universal call sign. The frequency of 149.200 started working in the second half of summer, after the beginning of the Ukrainian counteroffensive.
Ukrainians, if you want to live, if you want to return to your friends and relatives, tune in on any Baofeng to the frequency of 149.200 and call Volga . Who does not know, then “Volga”is a universal call sign, which can be used in the open air and negotiate a safe corridor for surrender. And the “Baofeng” is a portable Chinese Baofeng radio or any other radio that is widely distributed on both sides of the contact line and can be used to contact the Russian side, ” the Russian Defense Ministry said in an appeal to the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Posted by: Poison Frogs | Sep 17 2023 18:59 utc | 87

Maybe, somebody stays alive because of this …

Since the launch of the Russian Defense Ministry’s Volga project, which helps Ukrainian servicemen survive, more than 3,500 people have already decided to surrender. This is reported by the telegram channel Colonelcassad.
“Since the launch of the Volga project… just over 3,500 enemy soldiers and officers have voluntarily surrendered. In fact, a whole brigade of “counterattacks”. The project certainly needs to be expanded. I urge readers to distribute materials related to Volga as much as possible, especially among Ukrainian citizens who are looking for a way to stay alive.
“Volga” is a universal call sign. The frequency of 149.200 started working in the second half of summer, after the beginning of the Ukrainian counteroffensive.
Ukrainians, if you want to live, if you want to return to your friends and relatives, tune in on any Baofeng to the frequency of 149.200 and call Volga . Who does not know, then “Volga”is a universal call sign, which can be used in the open air and negotiate a safe corridor for surrender. And the “Baofeng” is a portable Chinese Baofeng radio or any other radio that is widely distributed on both sides of the contact line and can be used to contact the Russian side, ” the Russian Defense Ministry said in an appeal to the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Posted by: Poison Frogs | Sep 17 2023 18:59 utc | 88

oldhippie | Sep 17 2023 18:15 utc | 37
They could offer but no one will accept it and there is no one to use it. The 5 soldiers in Ukr have enough ammo. Also there is this “No agreements were signed on this issue or on other issues and there were no such plans,” Peskov told journalists in response to a question about whether any agreements on military-technical cooperation were signed after the Putin-Kim meeting.”

Posted by: rk | Sep 17 2023 19:02 utc | 89

oldhippie | Sep 17 2023 18:15 utc | 37
They could offer but no one will accept it and there is no one to use it. The 5 soldiers in Ukr have enough ammo. Also there is this “No agreements were signed on this issue or on other issues and there were no such plans,” Peskov told journalists in response to a question about whether any agreements on military-technical cooperation were signed after the Putin-Kim meeting.”

Posted by: rk | Sep 17 2023 19:02 utc | 90

Posted by: meshpal | Sep 17 2023 17:56 utc | 33
“I would love to see b do an article about the current German military capabilities and readiness after the many generous gifts to the Ukrainian cause.”
My feeling is that might be a bridge too far for this blog at this time.

Posted by: morongobill | Sep 17 2023 19:07 utc | 91

Posted by: meshpal | Sep 17 2023 17:56 utc | 33
“I would love to see b do an article about the current German military capabilities and readiness after the many generous gifts to the Ukrainian cause.”
My feeling is that might be a bridge too far for this blog at this time.

Posted by: morongobill | Sep 17 2023 19:07 utc | 92

Something which I haven’t seen anyone else pick up on but which is nonetheless jaw-dropping. Col. Reisner (who I think in fact is one of the better military commentators on the Western side, at least when he chooses to be) was speaking about the objective difficulty of assaulting prepared defenses, and how NATO perhaps unfairly blames the Ukies for their failure to do so. “The last time we faced defense works of such strength was in Kursk.”
So there we have it: it is taken as a given that the West’s current efforts are in full continuity of Operation Barbarossa from the good old days. And nobody bats an eye.

Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Sep 17 2023 19:32 utc | 93

Something which I haven’t seen anyone else pick up on but which is nonetheless jaw-dropping. Col. Reisner (who I think in fact is one of the better military commentators on the Western side, at least when he chooses to be) was speaking about the objective difficulty of assaulting prepared defenses, and how NATO perhaps unfairly blames the Ukies for their failure to do so. “The last time we faced defense works of such strength was in Kursk.”
So there we have it: it is taken as a given that the West’s current efforts are in full continuity of Operation Barbarossa from the good old days. And nobody bats an eye.

Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Sep 17 2023 19:32 utc | 94

Ma Laoshi @ 47
Best post in a while, thanks.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 17 2023 19:47 utc | 95

Ma Laoshi @ 47
Best post in a while, thanks.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 17 2023 19:47 utc | 96

Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Sep 17 2023 19:32 utc | 47
That “we” speaks volumes.

Posted by: alek_a | Sep 17 2023 20:02 utc | 97

Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Sep 17 2023 19:32 utc | 47
That “we” speaks volumes.

Posted by: alek_a | Sep 17 2023 20:02 utc | 98

Dima says: “Klishchiivka and Andriivka Have Fallen”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCC13pQmFRk
What is the meaning of that?
Is it possible that Russia has problem with available soldiers?

Posted by: simplex | Sep 17 2023 20:17 utc | 99

Dima says: “Klishchiivka and Andriivka Have Fallen”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCC13pQmFRk
What is the meaning of that?
Is it possible that Russia has problem with available soldiers?

Posted by: simplex | Sep 17 2023 20:17 utc | 100