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September 15, 2023
Ukraine Open Thread 2023-217
Only for news & views directly related to the Ukraine conflict. The current open thread for other issues is here. Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.
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@96 Posted by: tesla | Sep 15 2023 23:15 utc | 201 @96 Posted by: tesla | Sep 15 2023 23:15 utc | 202 for @venice12 / 31 Posted by: nc | Sep 15 2023 23:17 utc | 203 for @venice12 / 31 Posted by: nc | Sep 15 2023 23:17 utc | 204 Trubind1@89 Posted by: foxy48 | Sep 15 2023 23:19 utc | 205 Trubind1@89 Posted by: foxy48 | Sep 15 2023 23:19 utc | 206 Commenters here say that Russia is this great big military power that is just taking its time and will overwhelm Ukraine all by itself. Posted by: Observer | Sep 15 2023 23:29 utc | 207 Commenters here say that Russia is this great big military power that is just taking its time and will overwhelm Ukraine all by itself. Posted by: Observer | Sep 15 2023 23:29 utc | 208 What about the US playing games in the Black Sea? l am sure there is some plan hidden in this, not just provocation. Posted by: Medo | Sep 15 2023 23:35 utc | 209 What about the US playing games in the Black Sea? l am sure there is some plan hidden in this, not just provocation. Posted by: Medo | Sep 15 2023 23:35 utc | 210 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhNPSrhTZr4 Posted by: Tichy | Sep 15 2023 23:39 utc | 211 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhNPSrhTZr4 Posted by: Tichy | Sep 15 2023 23:39 utc | 212 Commenters here say that Russia is this great big military power that is just taking its time and will overwhelm Ukraine all by itself. Posted by: Tichy | Sep 15 2023 23:42 utc | 213 Commenters here say that Russia is this great big military power that is just taking its time and will overwhelm Ukraine all by itself. Posted by: Tichy | Sep 15 2023 23:42 utc | 214 Ukriane? Biggest military in Europe? Posted by: HERMIUS | Sep 15 2023 23:43 utc | 215 Ukriane? Biggest military in Europe? Posted by: HERMIUS | Sep 15 2023 23:43 utc | 216 Observer @ 104 Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 15 2023 23:43 utc | 217 Observer @ 104 Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 15 2023 23:43 utc | 218 Ukriane? Biggest military in Europe? Posted by: Tichy | Sep 15 2023 23:45 utc | 219 Ukriane? Biggest military in Europe? Posted by: Tichy | Sep 15 2023 23:45 utc | 220 Posted by: Tichy | Sep 15 2023 23:45 utc | 110 Posted by: HERMIUS | Sep 15 2023 23:52 utc | 221 Posted by: Tichy | Sep 15 2023 23:45 utc | 110 Posted by: HERMIUS | Sep 15 2023 23:52 utc | 222 Utterly biased. And suspicious as to why the after photo isn’t shown Posted by: SCCC | Sep 15 2023 23:54 utc | 223 Utterly biased. And suspicious as to why the after photo isn’t shown Posted by: SCCC | Sep 15 2023 23:54 utc | 224 Future of Ukrainian demographics
When 95% of Ukraine’s men are gone, the only women left in Ukraine will be Russian-speaking babushkas. All Ukrainian women of child-bearing age will be mating with West European men. Or, if the Yuro-virus has spared their brain, they will be in Russia or Novorossiya mating with Russian men. Posted by: Petri Krohn | Sep 15 2023 23:54 utc | 225 Future of Ukrainian demographics
When 95% of Ukraine’s men are gone, the only women left in Ukraine will be Russian-speaking babushkas. All Ukrainian women of child-bearing age will be mating with West European men. Or, if the Yuro-virus has spared their brain, they will be in Russia or Novorossiya mating with Russian men. Posted by: Petri Krohn | Sep 15 2023 23:54 utc | 226 The ONLY way this can be redressed is the arrest of these madmen who have brought hell on Ukraine. I fear these people will face a brutal end! Posted by: Tichy | Sep 15 2023 23:54 utc | 227 The ONLY way this can be redressed is the arrest of these madmen who have brought hell on Ukraine. I fear these people will face a brutal end! Posted by: Tichy | Sep 15 2023 23:54 utc | 228 Posted by: Tichy | Sep 15 2023 23:45 utc | 110 Posted by: Tichy | Sep 16 2023 0:02 utc | 229 Posted by: Tichy | Sep 15 2023 23:45 utc | 110 Posted by: Tichy | Sep 16 2023 0:02 utc | 230 Tichy @ 110
I think you nailed it, Nazi shit has that quality where it spins out of its handlers’ control. Kind of like a lab created virus. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 16 2023 0:03 utc | 231 Tichy @ 110
I think you nailed it, Nazi shit has that quality where it spins out of its handlers’ control. Kind of like a lab created virus. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 16 2023 0:03 utc | 232 recommended documentation to all German-speakers: Posted by: AG | Sep 16 2023 0:04 utc | 233 recommended documentation to all German-speakers: Posted by: AG | Sep 16 2023 0:04 utc | 234 I’ll repeat the message which I suspect got me banned from this site half a year ago. There must be no peace while there is stone upon stone left of the Nazi stronghold of Lviv. No, you don’t get to sell meatloaves depicting the murdered Russian civilians at the Kerch bridge to the snickering asshole citizens of your town with no consequences. Posted by: HERMIUS | Sep 16 2023 0:06 utc | 235 I’ll repeat the message which I suspect got me banned from this site half a year ago. There must be no peace while there is stone upon stone left of the Nazi stronghold of Lviv. No, you don’t get to sell meatloaves depicting the murdered Russian civilians at the Kerch bridge to the snickering asshole citizens of your town with no consequences. Posted by: HERMIUS | Sep 16 2023 0:06 utc | 236 Those silly stamps made me laugh. How childish the leadership in Kiev is. The city of kiev paid a heavy price for the leaderships attack on the bridge, I rememeber.Was it 30 cruise missiles hit them the day after the bridge attack. So much for their new stamp! Posted by: Tichy | Sep 16 2023 0:09 utc | 237 Those silly stamps made me laugh. How childish the leadership in Kiev is. The city of kiev paid a heavy price for the leaderships attack on the bridge, I rememeber.Was it 30 cruise missiles hit them the day after the bridge attack. So much for their new stamp! Posted by: Tichy | Sep 16 2023 0:09 utc | 238 The problem is this isn’t the Nazi leadership, it’s the general population. Posted by: HERMIUS | Sep 16 2023 0:13 utc | 239 The problem is this isn’t the Nazi leadership, it’s the general population. Posted by: HERMIUS | Sep 16 2023 0:13 utc | 240 I think you nailed it, Nazi shit has that quality where it spins out of its handlers’ control. Kind of like a lab created virus. Posted by: Tichy | Sep 16 2023 0:16 utc | 241 I think you nailed it, Nazi shit has that quality where it spins out of its handlers’ control. Kind of like a lab created virus. Posted by: Tichy | Sep 16 2023 0:16 utc | 242 Well, it was instigated by the keiv leadership’s western controlled PR team.Thats for certain. What a crazy, ill-informed decision to create a stamp. Posted by: Tichy | Sep 16 2023 0:18 utc | 243 Well, it was instigated by the keiv leadership’s western controlled PR team.Thats for certain. What a crazy, ill-informed decision to create a stamp. Posted by: Tichy | Sep 16 2023 0:18 utc | 244 Posted by: Acco Hengst | Sep 15 2023 19:38 utc | 63 Posted by: SCCC | Sep 16 2023 0:22 utc | 245 Posted by: Acco Hengst | Sep 15 2023 19:38 utc | 63 Posted by: SCCC | Sep 16 2023 0:22 utc | 246 by: AG | Sep 15 2023 22:38 utc | 92 Posted by: whirlX | Sep 16 2023 0:42 utc | 247 by: AG | Sep 15 2023 22:38 utc | 92 Posted by: whirlX | Sep 16 2023 0:42 utc | 248 Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 15 2023 21:45 utc | 87 Posted by: SCCC | Sep 16 2023 0:47 utc | 249 Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 15 2023 21:45 utc | 87 Posted by: SCCC | Sep 16 2023 0:47 utc | 250 Some videos for today. Posted by: Nate | Sep 16 2023 1:15 utc | 251 Some videos for today. Posted by: Nate | Sep 16 2023 1:15 utc | 252 Posted by: Observer | Sep 15 2023 23:29 utc | 104 Posted by: Constantine | Sep 16 2023 1:21 utc | 253 Posted by: Observer | Sep 15 2023 23:29 utc | 104 Posted by: Constantine | Sep 16 2023 1:21 utc | 254 Looks like EU disintegration is in progress: Posted by: SCCC | Sep 16 2023 1:24 utc | 255 Looks like EU disintegration is in progress: Posted by: SCCC | Sep 16 2023 1:24 utc | 256 Breaker 1-9, Blacksheep on the horn, Posted by: LtGen_Breedluvv | Sep 16 2023 1:27 utc | 257 Breaker 1-9, Blacksheep on the horn, Posted by: LtGen_Breedluvv | Sep 16 2023 1:27 utc | 258 RYBAR Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 16 2023 1:36 utc | 259 RYBAR Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 16 2023 1:36 utc | 260
This just has to be snark…right? Posted by: malenkov | Sep 16 2023 1:48 utc | 261
This just has to be snark…right? Posted by: malenkov | Sep 16 2023 1:48 utc | 262 This just has to be snark…right? Posted by: Tichy | Sep 16 2023 1:51 utc | 263 This just has to be snark…right? Posted by: Tichy | Sep 16 2023 1:51 utc | 264 This is obviously true, but baffles me. Until 10-20 years ago, the left often seemed a bit loopy, but rarely cruel and thirsty for human misery. What the hell happened? Posted by: SCCC | Sep 16 2023 1:55 utc | 265 This is obviously true, but baffles me. Until 10-20 years ago, the left often seemed a bit loopy, but rarely cruel and thirsty for human misery. What the hell happened? Posted by: SCCC | Sep 16 2023 1:55 utc | 266 How can one even measure that when one is confronted with the hideous spectacle of the Anglo-American elites and their vassals? Posted by: Observer | Sep 16 2023 1:56 utc | 267 How can one even measure that when one is confronted with the hideous spectacle of the Anglo-American elites and their vassals? Posted by: Observer | Sep 16 2023 1:56 utc | 268 This is obviously true, but baffles me. Until 10-20 years ago, the left often seemed a bit loopy, but rarely cruel and thirsty for human misery. What the hell happened? Posted by: Constantine | Sep 16 2023 2:02 utc | 269 This is obviously true, but baffles me. Until 10-20 years ago, the left often seemed a bit loopy, but rarely cruel and thirsty for human misery. What the hell happened? Posted by: Constantine | Sep 16 2023 2:02 utc | 270 At least the “Anglo-American elites and their vassals” are not starving their own citizens. Posted by: Constantine | Sep 16 2023 2:04 utc | 271 At least the “Anglo-American elites and their vassals” are not starving their own citizens. Posted by: Constantine | Sep 16 2023 2:04 utc | 272 This is obviously true, but baffles me. Until 10-20 years ago, the left often seemed a bit loopy, but rarely cruel and thirsty for human misery. What the hell happened? Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 16 2023 2:08 utc | 273 This is obviously true, but baffles me. Until 10-20 years ago, the left often seemed a bit loopy, but rarely cruel and thirsty for human misery. What the hell happened? Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 16 2023 2:08 utc | 274 Posted by: Constantine | Sep 16 2023 2:02 utc | 135 Posted by: SCCC | Sep 16 2023 2:25 utc | 275 Posted by: Constantine | Sep 16 2023 2:02 utc | 135 Posted by: SCCC | Sep 16 2023 2:25 utc | 276 Posted by: SCCC | Sep 16 2023 2:25 utc | 138 Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 16 2023 2:29 utc | 277 Posted by: SCCC | Sep 16 2023 2:25 utc | 138 Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 16 2023 2:29 utc | 278 Posted by: SCCC | Sep 16 2023 2:25 utc | 138 Posted by: Constantine | Sep 16 2023 2:41 utc | 279 Posted by: SCCC | Sep 16 2023 2:25 utc | 138 Posted by: Constantine | Sep 16 2023 2:41 utc | 280 Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 16 2023 2:29 utc | 139 Posted by: Constantine | Sep 16 2023 2:49 utc | 281 Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 16 2023 2:29 utc | 139 Posted by: Constantine | Sep 16 2023 2:49 utc | 282 Every week that goes by and the humiliation of the ‘exceptional’ American nation continues you have to admire that every media outlet left and right in the USA just spews out the #copium of their mental illness that the people of the world want American crooked degenerate shit in their nations. Posted by: Timbo | Sep 16 2023 2:58 utc | 283 Every week that goes by and the humiliation of the ‘exceptional’ American nation continues you have to admire that every media outlet left and right in the USA just spews out the #copium of their mental illness that the people of the world want American crooked degenerate shit in their nations. Posted by: Timbo | Sep 16 2023 2:58 utc | 284 “It’s not dissimilar social karma to present day America for its African slave trade. Their treatment of poor blacks for 300 years now sadly floods their city streets.” Posted by: Wisco | Sep 16 2023 3:16 utc | 285 “It’s not dissimilar social karma to present day America for its African slave trade. Their treatment of poor blacks for 300 years now sadly floods their city streets.” Posted by: Wisco | Sep 16 2023 3:16 utc | 286 unimperator | Sep 15 2023 18:48 utc | 51 Posted by: Cynic | Sep 16 2023 3:46 utc | 287 unimperator | Sep 15 2023 18:48 utc | 51 Posted by: Cynic | Sep 16 2023 3:46 utc | 288 Your comprehension skills truly astound me. Sure, I’m a 22 years old neoliberal right-winger as my posts clearly reveal. No wonder you spout nonstop buffoonery and pose as an adult when you struggle to hide your inadequacies. Posted by: SCCC | Sep 16 2023 3:55 utc | 289 Your comprehension skills truly astound me. Sure, I’m a 22 years old neoliberal right-winger as my posts clearly reveal. No wonder you spout nonstop buffoonery and pose as an adult when you struggle to hide your inadequacies. Posted by: SCCC | Sep 16 2023 3:55 utc | 290 YetAnotherAnon | Sep 15 2023 20:02 utc | 66 … Posted by: Cynic | Sep 16 2023 3:58 utc | 291 YetAnotherAnon | Sep 15 2023 20:02 utc | 66 … Posted by: Cynic | Sep 16 2023 3:58 utc | 292 “Case in point: Find me an American Political Scientist who doesn’t think Putin is a tyrannical dictator.” Posted by: Wisco | Sep 16 2023 4:10 utc | 293 “Case in point: Find me an American Political Scientist who doesn’t think Putin is a tyrannical dictator.” Posted by: Wisco | Sep 16 2023 4:10 utc | 294 Zelensky said the corrupt officials in Ukraine only steal Ukrainian funds, not any funds coming from the west. Posted by: unimperator | Sep 16 2023 4:18 utc | 295 Zelensky said the corrupt officials in Ukraine only steal Ukrainian funds, not any funds coming from the west. Posted by: unimperator | Sep 16 2023 4:18 utc | 296
I assumed this is satire as it is so silly. Artillery shells, missiles, bombs and rifle bullets do a lousy job of distinguishing between “less fit” and “more fit” specimens of masculinity, cutting down both equally well. Given that it is the worst criminals and mentally and physically handicapped (not to mention the most cowardly) who tend to sit out wars like this, it’s hard to take seriously the notion that such warfare leaves a “superior” population of men. Posted by: Ender | Sep 16 2023 4:20 utc | 297
I assumed this is satire as it is so silly. Artillery shells, missiles, bombs and rifle bullets do a lousy job of distinguishing between “less fit” and “more fit” specimens of masculinity, cutting down both equally well. Given that it is the worst criminals and mentally and physically handicapped (not to mention the most cowardly) who tend to sit out wars like this, it’s hard to take seriously the notion that such warfare leaves a “superior” population of men. Posted by: Ender | Sep 16 2023 4:20 utc | 298 Figleaf 23 45 Posted by: Giyane | Sep 16 2023 4:39 utc | 299 Figleaf 23 45 Posted by: Giyane | Sep 16 2023 4:39 utc | 300 |
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