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September 15, 2023
Ukraine Open Thread 2023-217
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https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2023-09-14/satellite-images-show-damage-to-russian-naval-vessels-struck-in-ukraine-attack
How a propaganda narrative works: Headline says photos show damage. The only photo shown is before the attack and even that isn’t clear. Article then says vessels are non repairable – according to Ukraine.
Utterly biased. And suspicious as to why the after photo isn’t shown
Posted by: Eighthman | Sep 15 2023 13:40 utc | 1
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2023-09-14/satellite-images-show-damage-to-russian-naval-vessels-struck-in-ukraine-attack
How a propaganda narrative works: Headline says photos show damage. The only photo shown is before the attack and even that isn’t clear. Article then says vessels are non repairable – according to Ukraine.
Utterly biased. And suspicious as to why the after photo isn’t shown
Posted by: Eighthman | Sep 15 2023 13:40 utc | 2
❗️North Korea has been preparing for a Ukraine style war for decades stockpiling one of the worlds largest caches of artillery rounds, MLRS rockets all compatible for use in Russian systems.
✅The long-range 170-mm self-propelled artillery units M-1989 Koksan which can launch conventional high-explosive fragmentation ammunition up to 40 km, and active-reactive ammunition up to 60 km.
✅The 240 mm North Korean M1985 / M1991 MLRS launches rockets at a distance of at least 65,000 meters.
✅The 600-mm KN-25 MLRS of “super-large caliber”. These missiles fly about 380 kilometers and reached an altitude of 97 kilometers. The weight of the rocket is 3 tons.
👍But most importantly, unlike Ukraine and the Russian Federation, there is no corruption in North Korea.
🇰🇵That’s why Kim Jung Un has enough shells, rockets & rounds stored in his warehouses to arm an army of 8 millon men.
In comparison, before February 2022 the armies of the Russian Federation and Ukraine combined had enough rounds in storage to arm only 4.5 million men.
💥80% of the casualties in the Ukraine conflict are caused by artillery & MLRS rockets which North Korea can easily transfer to the frontline via the Trans-Siberian Railway.
☢In short, Russia’s swaps space, aviation, nuclear submarine & ICBM technology in exchange for a unlimited ‘all you can eat’ access to North Korea’s huge stockpiles.
🇺🇸🇦🇺🇩🇪🇬🇧 The West arms Ukraine with Vietnam era junk weapons and cardboard drones. Russia quietly responds by arming North Korea with all the military technology on Kim Jung Un’s wish list.
🤬This is a huge geopolitical and diplomatic failure on the part of the AUKUS alliance.
🫵Putin warned the West to stop arming Ukraine. Now the West gets a taste of their own medicine.
Posted by: Down South | Sep 15 2023 13:44 utc | 3
❗️North Korea has been preparing for a Ukraine style war for decades stockpiling one of the worlds largest caches of artillery rounds, MLRS rockets all compatible for use in Russian systems.
✅The long-range 170-mm self-propelled artillery units M-1989 Koksan which can launch conventional high-explosive fragmentation ammunition up to 40 km, and active-reactive ammunition up to 60 km.
✅The 240 mm North Korean M1985 / M1991 MLRS launches rockets at a distance of at least 65,000 meters.
✅The 600-mm KN-25 MLRS of “super-large caliber”. These missiles fly about 380 kilometers and reached an altitude of 97 kilometers. The weight of the rocket is 3 tons.
👍But most importantly, unlike Ukraine and the Russian Federation, there is no corruption in North Korea.
🇰🇵That’s why Kim Jung Un has enough shells, rockets & rounds stored in his warehouses to arm an army of 8 millon men.
In comparison, before February 2022 the armies of the Russian Federation and Ukraine combined had enough rounds in storage to arm only 4.5 million men.
💥80% of the casualties in the Ukraine conflict are caused by artillery & MLRS rockets which North Korea can easily transfer to the frontline via the Trans-Siberian Railway.
☢In short, Russia’s swaps space, aviation, nuclear submarine & ICBM technology in exchange for a unlimited ‘all you can eat’ access to North Korea’s huge stockpiles.
🇺🇸🇦🇺🇩🇪🇬🇧 The West arms Ukraine with Vietnam era junk weapons and cardboard drones. Russia quietly responds by arming North Korea with all the military technology on Kim Jung Un’s wish list.
🤬This is a huge geopolitical and diplomatic failure on the part of the AUKUS alliance.
🫵Putin warned the West to stop arming Ukraine. Now the West gets a taste of their own medicine.
Posted by: Down South | Sep 15 2023 13:44 utc | 4
General Gurulev about problems and lies.
I will briefly report on the situation at the front without reference to specific directions. The information was obtained from primary sources, systematized, and the following conclusions were drawn.
The enemy, having specifically run into our forces at the beginning of his counter-offensive, changed his combat tactics. They are no longer moving forward in large forces; they were obviously forbidden to abandon heavy equipment en masse.
Today they have switched to squeeze-out tactics, they are massively using cluster shells, inflicting fire on the strong points of our units, assault groups, they have a lot of ammunition, they are trying to burn out absolutely everything. Yes, this situation forces our troops to retreat deeper. Not far, but in some places they lost up to 10 kilometers of territory. The enemy has somewhere occupied our defensive positions, which are very well equipped with our own hands.
After the refraction of the defense line, the enemies created conditions for the impossibility of using anti-tank missiles by our helicopters; due to the deflection of the line, they became accessible to enemy MANPADS. The efficiency of our helicopters has decreased.
The enemy has learned to work with our very well-made minefields. They competently clear them of mines, inflicting artillery fire and using trawls.
Our artillery has improved the quality of counter-battery warfare. There are results, but again the enemy is adapting. Basically, all of its guns are installed in depth at a distance inaccessible to our artillery. An estimated two artillery brigades were concentrated in the “hottest” directions, not counting the artillery of local brigades. We burned a lot of their towed artillery, they switched to using self-propelled guns. Our people say that it is very difficult, almost impossible, to catch them; after the second sighting shot they move and change position.
They have a lot of unmanned vehicles and even more. We have also adapted here, and over the last 2-3 weeks we have effectively begun to destroy them. Verba and Strela-10 air defense systems work well against UAVs. But the crests have a lot of drones, they use them wisely, you see these attacks not only at the front, but also in our deep rear.
The main conclusion is that the war continues. Yes, we are stronger, our warriors are stronger and more courageous, our troops are more professional. We endure, we adapt, we adapt, we win, we have already laid down a lot of the enemy’s manpower. But it is foolish to deny that today NATO is fighting against us with all its advanced technologies.
We will win in any case, but Victory is separated from us only by one serious problem of ours – lies. Yes, there is less of it than there was at the beginning of the SVO, but it is there. There are at different levels, they talk about it in the troops. False reports, unfortunately, lead to poor decisions at many levels. This is there, let’s acknowledge it and fight it, otherwise there will be trouble.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/63198
Posted by: Down South | Sep 15 2023 13:47 utc | 5
General Gurulev about problems and lies.
I will briefly report on the situation at the front without reference to specific directions. The information was obtained from primary sources, systematized, and the following conclusions were drawn.
The enemy, having specifically run into our forces at the beginning of his counter-offensive, changed his combat tactics. They are no longer moving forward in large forces; they were obviously forbidden to abandon heavy equipment en masse.
Today they have switched to squeeze-out tactics, they are massively using cluster shells, inflicting fire on the strong points of our units, assault groups, they have a lot of ammunition, they are trying to burn out absolutely everything. Yes, this situation forces our troops to retreat deeper. Not far, but in some places they lost up to 10 kilometers of territory. The enemy has somewhere occupied our defensive positions, which are very well equipped with our own hands.
After the refraction of the defense line, the enemies created conditions for the impossibility of using anti-tank missiles by our helicopters; due to the deflection of the line, they became accessible to enemy MANPADS. The efficiency of our helicopters has decreased.
The enemy has learned to work with our very well-made minefields. They competently clear them of mines, inflicting artillery fire and using trawls.
Our artillery has improved the quality of counter-battery warfare. There are results, but again the enemy is adapting. Basically, all of its guns are installed in depth at a distance inaccessible to our artillery. An estimated two artillery brigades were concentrated in the “hottest” directions, not counting the artillery of local brigades. We burned a lot of their towed artillery, they switched to using self-propelled guns. Our people say that it is very difficult, almost impossible, to catch them; after the second sighting shot they move and change position.
They have a lot of unmanned vehicles and even more. We have also adapted here, and over the last 2-3 weeks we have effectively begun to destroy them. Verba and Strela-10 air defense systems work well against UAVs. But the crests have a lot of drones, they use them wisely, you see these attacks not only at the front, but also in our deep rear.
The main conclusion is that the war continues. Yes, we are stronger, our warriors are stronger and more courageous, our troops are more professional. We endure, we adapt, we adapt, we win, we have already laid down a lot of the enemy’s manpower. But it is foolish to deny that today NATO is fighting against us with all its advanced technologies.
We will win in any case, but Victory is separated from us only by one serious problem of ours – lies. Yes, there is less of it than there was at the beginning of the SVO, but it is there. There are at different levels, they talk about it in the troops. False reports, unfortunately, lead to poor decisions at many levels. This is there, let’s acknowledge it and fight it, otherwise there will be trouble.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/63198
Posted by: Down South | Sep 15 2023 13:47 utc | 6
This is why the Nazis have no Russian soldiers for prisoner exchange.
Either the Russians are executed outright or else later.
https://sputnikglobe.com/20230915/moscow-investigates-video-of-ukrainian-soldiers-sending-russian-pows-to-minefield-1113389252.html
Posted by: Surferket | Sep 15 2023 13:59 utc | 7
This is why the Nazis have no Russian soldiers for prisoner exchange.
Either the Russians are executed outright or else later.
https://sputnikglobe.com/20230915/moscow-investigates-video-of-ukrainian-soldiers-sending-russian-pows-to-minefield-1113389252.html
Posted by: Surferket | Sep 15 2023 13:59 utc | 8
Maine state senator Eric Brakey calls out US hypocrisy in Ukraine (and elsewhere)
Posted by: farm ecologist | Sep 15 2023 14:02 utc | 9
Maine state senator Eric Brakey calls out US hypocrisy in Ukraine (and elsewhere)
Posted by: farm ecologist | Sep 15 2023 14:02 utc | 10
Posted by: Down South | Sep 15 2023 13:44 utc | 4
North Korea has been preparing for a large frontal war of attrition like we see today in Ukraine for nearly half a century. Something even the US army wouldn’t want to face (except through their South Korean proxy puppets).
Ukronazi termination about to hit an even higher gear, these MLRS will start appearing on the front lines in maximum potential within a 6 month period.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 15 2023 14:23 utc | 11
Posted by: Down South | Sep 15 2023 13:44 utc | 4
North Korea has been preparing for a large frontal war of attrition like we see today in Ukraine for nearly half a century. Something even the US army wouldn’t want to face (except through their South Korean proxy puppets).
Ukronazi termination about to hit an even higher gear, these MLRS will start appearing on the front lines in maximum potential within a 6 month period.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 15 2023 14:23 utc | 12
@ Eighthman 1
“suspicious as to why the after photo isn’t shown”
The attacked side not showing damage photos is standard.
1. It denies the enemy data to improve future attacks or to determine is they need to strike the same target again.
2. Damage photos usually hurt morale. Pro-Russian sources rarely show Russian casualties. But at a 1:10 ratio, probably 7,000 Russians died since the offensive began on June 6. All we are shown are a few photos of soldiers recuperating in hospitals. “Sanitization” is the standard since WW1.
The truth about casualties is always worse than you will be shown, and some suffering never ends. War may be very necessary, but it’s never a walk in the park.
Posted by: JessDTruth | Sep 15 2023 14:23 utc | 13
@ Eighthman 1
“suspicious as to why the after photo isn’t shown”
The attacked side not showing damage photos is standard.
1. It denies the enemy data to improve future attacks or to determine is they need to strike the same target again.
2. Damage photos usually hurt morale. Pro-Russian sources rarely show Russian casualties. But at a 1:10 ratio, probably 7,000 Russians died since the offensive began on June 6. All we are shown are a few photos of soldiers recuperating in hospitals. “Sanitization” is the standard since WW1.
The truth about casualties is always worse than you will be shown, and some suffering never ends. War may be very necessary, but it’s never a walk in the park.
Posted by: JessDTruth | Sep 15 2023 14:23 utc | 14
Posted by: Down South | Sep 15 2023 13:47 utc | 5
So the stories on the Ukrainian telegram channels were true. The Ukrainians are pushing through the mind fields and making progress against Russia’s defensive lines. Whelp….
Posted by: bored | Sep 15 2023 14:45 utc | 15
Posted by: Down South | Sep 15 2023 13:47 utc | 5
So the stories on the Ukrainian telegram channels were true. The Ukrainians are pushing through the mind fields and making progress against Russia’s defensive lines. Whelp….
Posted by: bored | Sep 15 2023 14:45 utc | 16
From Forest Economic Advisors:
“Before Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine about 18 months ago, Finland imported about 7–10% of the raw wood used in the processing industry from Russia. In southeastern Finland, the share of Russian wood used by mills was even higher. As a result, Finland’s forest industry is now facing a major transformation due to a lack of raw materials.
The first industrial victim of the wood shortage was the Sunila pulp mill in Kotka. The Finnish forest products firm Stora Enso announced in early September that the mill is scheduled to close by the end of the year. Stora Enso has said the mill is no longer profitable, a situation caused especially by the end of imported raw materials from Russia.
In addition to the end of imports from Russia, the growing use of wood in the form of wood chips or pellets in biofuel energy production has contributed to shortages at mills, YLE reported. However, increased forest harvesting is difficult due to the EU’s carbon sink obligations.”
So Finland is closing down a large Pulp mill and other mills because they are not taking Russian logs anymore. To add to the folly, Finland is limiting the harvest of their forests to maintain a “Carbon Sink” for the rest of Europe.
This is how Finish Foreign Policy is developed while snorting coke at bum warming parties.
Posted by: kupkee | Sep 15 2023 14:46 utc | 17
From Forest Economic Advisors:
“Before Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine about 18 months ago, Finland imported about 7–10% of the raw wood used in the processing industry from Russia. In southeastern Finland, the share of Russian wood used by mills was even higher. As a result, Finland’s forest industry is now facing a major transformation due to a lack of raw materials.
The first industrial victim of the wood shortage was the Sunila pulp mill in Kotka. The Finnish forest products firm Stora Enso announced in early September that the mill is scheduled to close by the end of the year. Stora Enso has said the mill is no longer profitable, a situation caused especially by the end of imported raw materials from Russia.
In addition to the end of imports from Russia, the growing use of wood in the form of wood chips or pellets in biofuel energy production has contributed to shortages at mills, YLE reported. However, increased forest harvesting is difficult due to the EU’s carbon sink obligations.”
So Finland is closing down a large Pulp mill and other mills because they are not taking Russian logs anymore. To add to the folly, Finland is limiting the harvest of their forests to maintain a “Carbon Sink” for the rest of Europe.
This is how Finish Foreign Policy is developed while snorting coke at bum warming parties.
Posted by: kupkee | Sep 15 2023 14:46 utc | 18
Posted by: OkaySB | Sep 15 2023 14:29 utc | 10
……I get much more out of reading.
An extremely interesting perspective – especially since it is critical for Russia. It is worth reading, although it requires a lot of time. It is rather for serious and experienced blog participants, as both the author’s perspective and he himself are unusual. There is a translator implemented on the website – scroll past the end of the article, almost to the end, and there select in the window the language into which the text on the website should be displayed.
It would be good to hear the opinion of serious blog participants about this. I think that the author correctly indicates the causes of many contradictions in Russia’s actions, which are still the subject of disputes here.
https://smp.edu.pl/przyczyny-specjalnej-operacji-wojskowej/
https://smp.edu.pl/sprzecznosci-specjalnej-operacji-wojskowej/
https://smp.edu.pl/sprzecznosci-specjalnej-operacji-wojskowej-czesc-2/
https://smp.edu.pl/sprzecznosci-specjalnej-operacji-wojskowej-czesc-3-ostatnia/
!
(this is absolutely not Polish mainstream)
Posted by: nc | Sep 15 2023 14:51 utc | 19
Posted by: OkaySB | Sep 15 2023 14:29 utc | 10
……I get much more out of reading.
An extremely interesting perspective – especially since it is critical for Russia. It is worth reading, although it requires a lot of time. It is rather for serious and experienced blog participants, as both the author’s perspective and he himself are unusual. There is a translator implemented on the website – scroll past the end of the article, almost to the end, and there select in the window the language into which the text on the website should be displayed.
It would be good to hear the opinion of serious blog participants about this. I think that the author correctly indicates the causes of many contradictions in Russia’s actions, which are still the subject of disputes here.
https://smp.edu.pl/przyczyny-specjalnej-operacji-wojskowej/
https://smp.edu.pl/sprzecznosci-specjalnej-operacji-wojskowej/
https://smp.edu.pl/sprzecznosci-specjalnej-operacji-wojskowej-czesc-2/
https://smp.edu.pl/sprzecznosci-specjalnej-operacji-wojskowej-czesc-3-ostatnia/
!
(this is absolutely not Polish mainstream)
Posted by: nc | Sep 15 2023 14:51 utc | 20
Posted by: bored | Sep 15 2023 14:45 utc | 12
“Basically, all of its guns are installed in depth at a distance inaccessible to our artillery.”
“Our people say that it is very difficult, almost impossible, to catch them; after the second sighting shot they move and change position.”
These quotes though seem far more telling. Notwithstanding all the stories you see of Ukraine levelling the artillery playing field, Ukrainian guns shooting from extreme range or moving every couple of shots suggests that they’ve actually made very little progress. A very bad thing for Ukraine when 80% of casualties are artillery casualties.
Posted by: OnceWere | Sep 15 2023 15:08 utc | 21
Posted by: bored | Sep 15 2023 14:45 utc | 12
“Basically, all of its guns are installed in depth at a distance inaccessible to our artillery.”
“Our people say that it is very difficult, almost impossible, to catch them; after the second sighting shot they move and change position.”
These quotes though seem far more telling. Notwithstanding all the stories you see of Ukraine levelling the artillery playing field, Ukrainian guns shooting from extreme range or moving every couple of shots suggests that they’ve actually made very little progress. A very bad thing for Ukraine when 80% of casualties are artillery casualties.
Posted by: OnceWere | Sep 15 2023 15:08 utc | 22
this is an odd piece but I didn´t want to completely trash it,
admittedly by EurAsiaTimes, but perhaps it contains some small bits of useful info or opinion:
Russia Could Lose The Ukraine War If It Does Not Escalate, But North Korea May Provide A Less Risky Option
By Vijainder K Thakur
September 14, 2023
https://www.eurasiantimes.com/russia-could-lose-the-ukraine-war-if-it-does-not-escalate-bu/
Title is a bit misleading because in essence it´s about NATO trying to execute a secondary war on the Black Sea area and RU assets with intentenions to force RU to escalate there by attacking non-UKR unites. A sit. which he claims is yet ignored by RU.
Posted by: AG | Sep 15 2023 15:13 utc | 23
this is an odd piece but I didn´t want to completely trash it,
admittedly by EurAsiaTimes, but perhaps it contains some small bits of useful info or opinion:
Russia Could Lose The Ukraine War If It Does Not Escalate, But North Korea May Provide A Less Risky Option
By Vijainder K Thakur
September 14, 2023
https://www.eurasiantimes.com/russia-could-lose-the-ukraine-war-if-it-does-not-escalate-bu/
Title is a bit misleading because in essence it´s about NATO trying to execute a secondary war on the Black Sea area and RU assets with intentenions to force RU to escalate there by attacking non-UKR unites. A sit. which he claims is yet ignored by RU.
Posted by: AG | Sep 15 2023 15:13 utc | 24
Do we have info on this Dreizin post?
“In first top-level MI6 visit there in years, British MI6 deputy director secretly visited Minsk, Belarus, this week, possibly yesterday. Possibly acting as middleman, Belarus president then (late yesterday or early today) flew to Sochi (not a secret) for long round of meetings w/ Putin & top Kremlin aides & others, to discuss (this will not be publicly disclosed) use of Wagner but not only.”
Posted by: AG | Sep 15 2023 15:21 utc | 25
Do we have info on this Dreizin post?
“In first top-level MI6 visit there in years, British MI6 deputy director secretly visited Minsk, Belarus, this week, possibly yesterday. Possibly acting as middleman, Belarus president then (late yesterday or early today) flew to Sochi (not a secret) for long round of meetings w/ Putin & top Kremlin aides & others, to discuss (this will not be publicly disclosed) use of Wagner but not only.”
Posted by: AG | Sep 15 2023 15:21 utc | 26
Posted by: kupkee | Sep 15 2023 14:46 utc | 13
Finland’s economy is going down the gutter like Ukraine has gone. There are a lot of earlier wealth in the form of real estate and some savings. The real estate market is getting the rug pulled from under it, like everywhere in EU controlled Europe, and inflation and stagnation are chipping away wealth.
They seem to be following the same path as Ukraine since 2014, with hyperbolic amounts of Russophobic propaganda. A war with Russia seems to be inevitable. It only requires one British agent sending drones to attack a port in Murmansk.
We are going to the point where Russian state and civilization will end up by definition in a position of existential threat from Nato. Then they won’t bother playing around with fringe states like Finland, they will simply obliterate it. The spark could be something originating from US and UK games in the Black Sea, if Russia starts downing recon assets, the lunatic president of Finland is ready to jump in the fray next.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 15 2023 15:27 utc | 27
Posted by: kupkee | Sep 15 2023 14:46 utc | 13
Finland’s economy is going down the gutter like Ukraine has gone. There are a lot of earlier wealth in the form of real estate and some savings. The real estate market is getting the rug pulled from under it, like everywhere in EU controlled Europe, and inflation and stagnation are chipping away wealth.
They seem to be following the same path as Ukraine since 2014, with hyperbolic amounts of Russophobic propaganda. A war with Russia seems to be inevitable. It only requires one British agent sending drones to attack a port in Murmansk.
We are going to the point where Russian state and civilization will end up by definition in a position of existential threat from Nato. Then they won’t bother playing around with fringe states like Finland, they will simply obliterate it. The spark could be something originating from US and UK games in the Black Sea, if Russia starts downing recon assets, the lunatic president of Finland is ready to jump in the fray next.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 15 2023 15:27 utc | 28
re-posting
interesting bit of news https://t.me/s/CyberspecNews
Very interesting news from the Kupyansky direction.
Military correspondent Marat Khairullin reports that Russian troops, with a surprise blow to the enemy, crossed Oskol on a front 4 kilometers wide and formed a bridgehead north of Dvurechnaya. There are battles to expand the bridgehead. Expanding the bridgehead will create a direct threat to bypass the enemy forces defending Dvurechnaya, the capture of which is necessary to advance north of Kupyansk in the northeastern regions of the Kharkov region.
To me, this confirms that Ukrainian reserves are being hollowed out. They simply can’t protect the entire line of contact with enough reserves to hold all of it. The same predicament Russia found itself in last fall. This ties in with their evacuation orders for settlements along the Dnieper river. The Russian strategy of applying pressure everywhere until a weak spot is found is paying off. I hope that Ukraine will pull back and also end their insane offense to save Ukrainian lives. Pretty sure the Ukraine general staff knows what’s up- they are losing badly with no prospects of turning the tide.
Posted by: ctiger | Sep 15 2023 15:28 utc | 29
re-posting
interesting bit of news https://t.me/s/CyberspecNews
Very interesting news from the Kupyansky direction.
Military correspondent Marat Khairullin reports that Russian troops, with a surprise blow to the enemy, crossed Oskol on a front 4 kilometers wide and formed a bridgehead north of Dvurechnaya. There are battles to expand the bridgehead. Expanding the bridgehead will create a direct threat to bypass the enemy forces defending Dvurechnaya, the capture of which is necessary to advance north of Kupyansk in the northeastern regions of the Kharkov region.
To me, this confirms that Ukrainian reserves are being hollowed out. They simply can’t protect the entire line of contact with enough reserves to hold all of it. The same predicament Russia found itself in last fall. This ties in with their evacuation orders for settlements along the Dnieper river. The Russian strategy of applying pressure everywhere until a weak spot is found is paying off. I hope that Ukraine will pull back and also end their insane offense to save Ukrainian lives. Pretty sure the Ukraine general staff knows what’s up- they are losing badly with no prospects of turning the tide.
Posted by: ctiger | Sep 15 2023 15:28 utc | 30
This is how Finish Foreign Policy is developed while snorting coke at bum warming parties.
Posted by: kupkee | Sep 15 2023 14:46 utc | 13
You can apply that to all the EU.
In Ireland permission to build a LPG terminal has been refused.
As a lot of the Gas from the US originates from franked drilling.
In addition there is a decent gas oil prospect off the south east coast and that’s stopped by the green party in the coalition government fue to carbon neutrality EU laws.
Europe is run by middle class leftie retards.
Who ironically are blood thirsty monster’s.
Posted by: jpc | Sep 15 2023 15:35 utc | 31
This is how Finish Foreign Policy is developed while snorting coke at bum warming parties.
Posted by: kupkee | Sep 15 2023 14:46 utc | 13
You can apply that to all the EU.
In Ireland permission to build a LPG terminal has been refused.
As a lot of the Gas from the US originates from franked drilling.
In addition there is a decent gas oil prospect off the south east coast and that’s stopped by the green party in the coalition government fue to carbon neutrality EU laws.
Europe is run by middle class leftie retards.
Who ironically are blood thirsty monster’s.
Posted by: jpc | Sep 15 2023 15:35 utc | 32
https://t.me/CyberspecNews/42164
Russian POWs sent into minefields
No consequences No respect No fear
In return Ukro Nazis has been sent for 5 stars holidays in Turkey
Slomo only supports Nazi antirussian Phantasies
Thank u 5D Chessmaster
Posted by: SlowSoft | Sep 15 2023 15:37 utc | 33
https://t.me/CyberspecNews/42164
Russian POWs sent into minefields
No consequences No respect No fear
In return Ukro Nazis has been sent for 5 stars holidays in Turkey
Slomo only supports Nazi antirussian Phantasies
Thank u 5D Chessmaster
Posted by: SlowSoft | Sep 15 2023 15:37 utc | 34
Posted by: SlowSoft | Sep 15 2023 15:37 utc | 17
I just saw that story too. Talk about war crimes. If I was Putin, Kiev would be a smoldering ruin today and I would dare NATO to respond.
Posted by: bored | Sep 15 2023 15:39 utc | 35
Posted by: SlowSoft | Sep 15 2023 15:37 utc | 17
I just saw that story too. Talk about war crimes. If I was Putin, Kiev would be a smoldering ruin today and I would dare NATO to respond.
Posted by: bored | Sep 15 2023 15:39 utc | 36
The latest Russian Mod report https://t.me/s/Slavyangrad. The carnage continues 745 KIA and 17 artillery pieces
Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation (15 September 2023)
Part I
▫️ In Donetsk direction, units of the Yug Group of Forces, in close co-operation with aviation and artillery, repelled four attacks by AFU assault groups near Klescheevka and Mayorsk (Donetsk People’s Republic).
The enemy’s losses amounted to up to 275 servicemen, four armoured fighting vehicles, four motor vehicles, three U.S.-made M777 howitzer, as well as one Gvozdika howitzer.
Moreover, an ammunition depot of the 110th Mechanised Brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces was hit close to Avdeevka.
◽️ In Zaporozhye direction, units of the Russian Group of Forces supported by Army Aviation, artillery, and heavy flamethrower systems repelled two attacks by the AFU 47th Mechanised Brigade close to Rabotino (Zaporozhye region).
A cluster of AFU manpower and hardware of the 80th Air Assault Brigade was neutralised near Verbovoye (Zaporozhye region).
Over 145 servucemen and three motor vehicles were eliminated.
In counter-battery warfare, two U.S.-made M777 artillery systems, one UK-made FH-70 gun, three D-30 and one D-20 howitzers were destroyed.
▫️ In Krasny Liman direction, well-coordinated actions of the Tsentr Group of Forces, strikes by Army Aviation and artillery fire repelled two attacks by assault groups of the 63rd Mechanised Brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces near Torskoye (Donetsk People’s Republic).
Up to 55 servicemen, one tank, two armoured fighting vehicles, and one D-20 gun were eliminated.
▫️ In South Donetsk direction, units of the Vostok Group of Forces repelled an AFU attack close to Novomayorskoye (Donetsk People’s Republic).
Aviation and artillery inflicted losses on the 72nd Mechanised Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Vladimirovka (Donetsk People’s Republic).
The total losses of the enemy in this direction amounted to over 175 servicemen, two armoured fighting vehicles, four motor vehicles, two D-30 howitzers, and one D-20 gun.
◽️ In Kupyansk direction, aviation and artillery of the Zapad Group of Forces have engaged the units of the AFU close to Sinkova, Berestovoye, and Kislovka (Kharkov region).
Up to 20 servicemen, two motor vehicles, one U.S.-made M109 Paladin and one Gvozdika self-propelled artillery systems, one U.S.-made M777 artillery system, and one U.S.-made AN/TPQ-48 counter-battery radiation station have been neutralised.
An ammunition depot of the AFU 103rd Territorial Defence Brigade has been obliterated close to Kislovka.
Russian Defence Ministry
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Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation (15 September 2023)
Part II
◽️ In Kherson direction, up to 75 servicemen, four motor vehicles, and two Akatsiya self-propelled howitzers were neutralised.
Moreover, an ammunition depot of the 124th Territorial Defence Brigade was neutralised close to Antonovka.
▫️ In the past 24 hours, the Black Sea Fleet detected and destroyed two AFU unmanned semi-submersible vehicles in the south-western part of the Black Sea.
▫️ Operational-Tactical and Army aviation, Missile Troops and Artillery of the Russian Group of Forces have engaged AFU manpower and hardware in 137 areas during the day.
In addition, a communication station of the 79th Air Assault Brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces was hit close to Novomikhailovka (Donetsk People’s Republic).
One P-18 radar for detecting and tracking air targets was destroyed near Novolozovatovka (Dnepropetrovsk region).
Russian air defence forces intercepted three HIMARS MLRS projectiles.
Moreover, 41 unmanned aerial vehicles shot down close to Maloryazantsevo, Lisichansk (Lugansk People’s Republic), Novoandreevka Artyomovsk, Gorlovka (Donetsk People’s Republic), Kamenka-Dneprovskaya, Pologi, and Tokmak (Zaporozhye region).
Russian Defence Ministry
Posted by: ctiger | Sep 15 2023 15:40 utc | 37
The latest Russian Mod report https://t.me/s/Slavyangrad. The carnage continues 745 KIA and 17 artillery pieces
Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation (15 September 2023)
Part I
▫️ In Donetsk direction, units of the Yug Group of Forces, in close co-operation with aviation and artillery, repelled four attacks by AFU assault groups near Klescheevka and Mayorsk (Donetsk People’s Republic).
The enemy’s losses amounted to up to 275 servicemen, four armoured fighting vehicles, four motor vehicles, three U.S.-made M777 howitzer, as well as one Gvozdika howitzer.
Moreover, an ammunition depot of the 110th Mechanised Brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces was hit close to Avdeevka.
◽️ In Zaporozhye direction, units of the Russian Group of Forces supported by Army Aviation, artillery, and heavy flamethrower systems repelled two attacks by the AFU 47th Mechanised Brigade close to Rabotino (Zaporozhye region).
A cluster of AFU manpower and hardware of the 80th Air Assault Brigade was neutralised near Verbovoye (Zaporozhye region).
Over 145 servucemen and three motor vehicles were eliminated.
In counter-battery warfare, two U.S.-made M777 artillery systems, one UK-made FH-70 gun, three D-30 and one D-20 howitzers were destroyed.
▫️ In Krasny Liman direction, well-coordinated actions of the Tsentr Group of Forces, strikes by Army Aviation and artillery fire repelled two attacks by assault groups of the 63rd Mechanised Brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces near Torskoye (Donetsk People’s Republic).
Up to 55 servicemen, one tank, two armoured fighting vehicles, and one D-20 gun were eliminated.
▫️ In South Donetsk direction, units of the Vostok Group of Forces repelled an AFU attack close to Novomayorskoye (Donetsk People’s Republic).
Aviation and artillery inflicted losses on the 72nd Mechanised Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Vladimirovka (Donetsk People’s Republic).
The total losses of the enemy in this direction amounted to over 175 servicemen, two armoured fighting vehicles, four motor vehicles, two D-30 howitzers, and one D-20 gun.
◽️ In Kupyansk direction, aviation and artillery of the Zapad Group of Forces have engaged the units of the AFU close to Sinkova, Berestovoye, and Kislovka (Kharkov region).
Up to 20 servicemen, two motor vehicles, one U.S.-made M109 Paladin and one Gvozdika self-propelled artillery systems, one U.S.-made M777 artillery system, and one U.S.-made AN/TPQ-48 counter-battery radiation station have been neutralised.
An ammunition depot of the AFU 103rd Territorial Defence Brigade has been obliterated close to Kislovka.
Russian Defence Ministry
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Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation (15 September 2023)
Part II
◽️ In Kherson direction, up to 75 servicemen, four motor vehicles, and two Akatsiya self-propelled howitzers were neutralised.
Moreover, an ammunition depot of the 124th Territorial Defence Brigade was neutralised close to Antonovka.
▫️ In the past 24 hours, the Black Sea Fleet detected and destroyed two AFU unmanned semi-submersible vehicles in the south-western part of the Black Sea.
▫️ Operational-Tactical and Army aviation, Missile Troops and Artillery of the Russian Group of Forces have engaged AFU manpower and hardware in 137 areas during the day.
In addition, a communication station of the 79th Air Assault Brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces was hit close to Novomikhailovka (Donetsk People’s Republic).
One P-18 radar for detecting and tracking air targets was destroyed near Novolozovatovka (Dnepropetrovsk region).
Russian air defence forces intercepted three HIMARS MLRS projectiles.
Moreover, 41 unmanned aerial vehicles shot down close to Maloryazantsevo, Lisichansk (Lugansk People’s Republic), Novoandreevka Artyomovsk, Gorlovka (Donetsk People’s Republic), Kamenka-Dneprovskaya, Pologi, and Tokmak (Zaporozhye region).
Russian Defence Ministry
Posted by: ctiger | Sep 15 2023 15:40 utc | 38
“How much poking will the bear endure? I guess we will find out in the months and years ahead, that is, if we have years left?”
Russia is taking it’s time to build / train forces and manufacture weapons and ammunition.
They did something similar in WW2 in 1941/42. They threw bodies at the Germans while they moved their entire MIC east on trains … the result was the counter offensive at Stalingrad and once they gained momentum the Germans were pushed back all the way to Berlin.
This time they aren’t taking the massive casualties they did during WW2 but they are mainly on the defensive soaking up NAT …er Ukrainian attacks buying time and wearing the Ukrainians down.
Even today people worship the Wehrmacht as gods of war and see the Russians as bumbling idiots. The real reason the Germans failed in their 1942 campaign was because the Soviets removed 750,000 experienced, professional combat soldiers, NCO’s, tankers and engineers out of an army of 3 million during operation Barbarossa … yes Russians took an order of magnitude more casualties but the German casualties were irreplaceable and key to their combat power.
That feat of moving factories steel mills, chemical plants and design bureaus by rail while the Red Army was starved of ammunition and replacements was immense and completely overlooked in the west. Some of these enterprises required thousands of rail cars and were being shelled and bombed while they worked.
I believe behind the scenes the Russians are tooling up and training to take on NATO with the help of Chinese manufacturing expertise.
Posted by: HB_Norica | Sep 15 2023 15:41 utc | 39
“How much poking will the bear endure? I guess we will find out in the months and years ahead, that is, if we have years left?”
Russia is taking it’s time to build / train forces and manufacture weapons and ammunition.
They did something similar in WW2 in 1941/42. They threw bodies at the Germans while they moved their entire MIC east on trains … the result was the counter offensive at Stalingrad and once they gained momentum the Germans were pushed back all the way to Berlin.
This time they aren’t taking the massive casualties they did during WW2 but they are mainly on the defensive soaking up NAT …er Ukrainian attacks buying time and wearing the Ukrainians down.
Even today people worship the Wehrmacht as gods of war and see the Russians as bumbling idiots. The real reason the Germans failed in their 1942 campaign was because the Soviets removed 750,000 experienced, professional combat soldiers, NCO’s, tankers and engineers out of an army of 3 million during operation Barbarossa … yes Russians took an order of magnitude more casualties but the German casualties were irreplaceable and key to their combat power.
That feat of moving factories steel mills, chemical plants and design bureaus by rail while the Red Army was starved of ammunition and replacements was immense and completely overlooked in the west. Some of these enterprises required thousands of rail cars and were being shelled and bombed while they worked.
I believe behind the scenes the Russians are tooling up and training to take on NATO with the help of Chinese manufacturing expertise.
Posted by: HB_Norica | Sep 15 2023 15:41 utc | 40
@ canuck
a very clever use of the acronym…i’m inclined to view it as an inviation
Posted by: james | Sep 15 2023 14:38 utc | 11
Kinda. Referring to a dick as an organ has always struck me as gross though. Maybe that’s cool in Canada.
Happy Friday, James!
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 15 2023 15:41 utc | 41
@ canuck
a very clever use of the acronym…i’m inclined to view it as an inviation
Posted by: james | Sep 15 2023 14:38 utc | 11
Kinda. Referring to a dick as an organ has always struck me as gross though. Maybe that’s cool in Canada.
Happy Friday, James!
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 15 2023 15:41 utc | 42
Posted by: SlowSoft | Sep 15 2023 15:37 utc | 17
So UkroNazi’s are committing crimes against humanity? Please, tell us something else that is new.
In your opinion, how would a “more rapid advance” prevent Ukronazi’s from committing war crimes? The pace of front movement cannot ever be greater than the pace of a bullet or knife movement.
The Allies advance into Germany did not prevent millions jews or other undesirables from dying. So it is, in Ukraine.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 15 2023 15:43 utc | 43
Posted by: SlowSoft | Sep 15 2023 15:37 utc | 17
So UkroNazi’s are committing crimes against humanity? Please, tell us something else that is new.
In your opinion, how would a “more rapid advance” prevent Ukronazi’s from committing war crimes? The pace of front movement cannot ever be greater than the pace of a bullet or knife movement.
The Allies advance into Germany did not prevent millions jews or other undesirables from dying. So it is, in Ukraine.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 15 2023 15:43 utc | 44
jpc | Sep 15 2023 15:35 utc | 16
Europe is run by middle class leftie retards.
Who ironically are blood thirsty monster’s.
This is obviously true, but baffles me. Until 10-20 years ago, the left often seemed a bit loopy, but rarely cruel and thirsty for human misery. What the hell happened?
Posted by: Boris Badenov | Sep 15 2023 15:56 utc | 45
jpc | Sep 15 2023 15:35 utc | 16
Europe is run by middle class leftie retards.
Who ironically are blood thirsty monster’s.
This is obviously true, but baffles me. Until 10-20 years ago, the left often seemed a bit loopy, but rarely cruel and thirsty for human misery. What the hell happened?
Posted by: Boris Badenov | Sep 15 2023 15:56 utc | 46
Europe is run by middle class leftie retards.
Who ironically are blood thirsty monster’s.
Posted by: jpc | Sep 15 2023 15:35 utc | 16
Agreed, but if they push for imperialist war, support extreme economic polarization, etc then they are actually middle class rightie retards posing as left to make it all look “progressive”.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 15 2023 16:01 utc | 47
Europe is run by middle class leftie retards.
Who ironically are blood thirsty monster’s.
Posted by: jpc | Sep 15 2023 15:35 utc | 16
Agreed, but if they push for imperialist war, support extreme economic polarization, etc then they are actually middle class rightie retards posing as left to make it all look “progressive”.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 15 2023 16:01 utc | 48
US panicking about North Korea – Russia relations. Well, for once they have a good reason to be panicking.
https://www.rt.com/news/583018-korea-us-kim-putin/
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 15 2023 16:22 utc | 49
US panicking about North Korea – Russia relations. Well, for once they have a good reason to be panicking.
https://www.rt.com/news/583018-korea-us-kim-putin/
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 15 2023 16:22 utc | 50
Very interesting video by History Legends.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=NXJHiSKzZFs&si=X7_gU3BPrx5O2rLz
He gives all the dates of Ukr drone attacks on Crimea.
Pretty impressive. All planned and help by NATO.
Posted by: RB | Sep 15 2023 16:39 utc | 51
Very interesting video by History Legends.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=NXJHiSKzZFs&si=X7_gU3BPrx5O2rLz
He gives all the dates of Ukr drone attacks on Crimea.
Pretty impressive. All planned and help by NATO.
Posted by: RB | Sep 15 2023 16:39 utc | 52
That feat of moving factories steel mills, chemical plants and design bureaus by rail while the Red Army was starved of ammunition and replacements was immense and completely overlooked in the west. Some of these enterprises required thousands of rail cars and were being shelled and bombed while they worked.
Bolshevik propaganda. Bolsheviks in the US State Department supplied MASSIVE amounts of material and armaments to the Soviets. You can’t move smelters and fired furnaces. They did move machine tools and other fabrication and electrical equipment. All of the aluminum, steel, including armor plate, avgas, rubber, trucks, explosives, and a lot of the food came from the US. Not many people are aware of the Soviet-Japanese non-aggression pact that Stalin signed (look it up). You could walk across the Pacific from Soviet cargo ship to Soviet cargo ship, and the Japanese let them pass.
The Bolsheviks in the State department were also the ones that forced Japan into war with the US.
And these same Bolsheviks are still there. People like Nuland. And they hate White Russians (Russian Orthodox).
Posted by: JackG | Sep 15 2023 16:42 utc | 53
That feat of moving factories steel mills, chemical plants and design bureaus by rail while the Red Army was starved of ammunition and replacements was immense and completely overlooked in the west. Some of these enterprises required thousands of rail cars and were being shelled and bombed while they worked.
Bolshevik propaganda. Bolsheviks in the US State Department supplied MASSIVE amounts of material and armaments to the Soviets. You can’t move smelters and fired furnaces. They did move machine tools and other fabrication and electrical equipment. All of the aluminum, steel, including armor plate, avgas, rubber, trucks, explosives, and a lot of the food came from the US. Not many people are aware of the Soviet-Japanese non-aggression pact that Stalin signed (look it up). You could walk across the Pacific from Soviet cargo ship to Soviet cargo ship, and the Japanese let them pass.
The Bolsheviks in the State department were also the ones that forced Japan into war with the US.
And these same Bolsheviks are still there. People like Nuland. And they hate White Russians (Russian Orthodox).
Posted by: JackG | Sep 15 2023 16:42 utc | 54
Ukraine is conducting mass evacuation from the Kherson region. What are they planning? To attack or to defend?
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/63183
New photos of General Surovikin from Algeria have surfaced online.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/63191
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 15 2023 16:54 utc | 55
Ukraine is conducting mass evacuation from the Kherson region. What are they planning? To attack or to defend?
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/63183
New photos of General Surovikin from Algeria have surfaced online.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/63191
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 15 2023 16:54 utc | 56
Posted by: bored | Sep 15 2023 15:39 utc | 18
Flatten kiev to dust!
Only language these ukronato bastards understand!
The whole SMO nonsense has failed!
Denazification & demilitarization? Where?
Do u see any sign of Denazification among ukro civilians?
No In contrary! Since starting of SMO almost majority of ukro civilians have adapeted the nazi ideology
Only have a walk and chat with people in Odessa or Kiev or Kharkiv! Unbelievable what u can hear from them.
Demilitarization?
Ukronazis still attacking no signs of suffering equipment or ammunition. Supply routes from west re open like a Bordel
Nonstop deliveries of new military equipment
What is this 5D chessmaster doing?
Philosophying about Brics, Turkish stream and other dream streams
This man is so naive and producer one desaster ater another no wonder about minsk 2, ns2, grain deals,…
https://t.me/ZandVchannel/79023
🇹🇷🇷🇺 Turkey has suspended the creation of a gas hub due to disagreements with Moscow – Ankara itself wants to own a future storage facility
The creation of a gas hub in Turkey has been suspended due to disagreements between Ankara and Moscow, Reuters writes, citing sources. The “blue fuel” from this storage was supposed to go to Europe. However, apparently, this winter the EU will have to do without Russian gas.
According to the publication, the stumbling block was the right to manage the gas hub. Probably, we are talking about Gazprom and the Turkish energy company BOTAS. It is also unclear at what stage the construction project was before it was frozen. In addition, Ankara planned to connect the Trans-Anatolian pipeline to the storage facility, which fills Azerbaijan with gas.
So it all looks like another attempt by Erdogan to make Turkey a world resource center at the expense of Russia. In turn, Moscow is interested in this project from the point of view of replacing the falling volumes of European supplies.
Posted by: SlowSoft | Sep 15 2023 16:54 utc | 57
Posted by: bored | Sep 15 2023 15:39 utc | 18
Flatten kiev to dust!
Only language these ukronato bastards understand!
The whole SMO nonsense has failed!
Denazification & demilitarization? Where?
Do u see any sign of Denazification among ukro civilians?
No In contrary! Since starting of SMO almost majority of ukro civilians have adapeted the nazi ideology
Only have a walk and chat with people in Odessa or Kiev or Kharkiv! Unbelievable what u can hear from them.
Demilitarization?
Ukronazis still attacking no signs of suffering equipment or ammunition. Supply routes from west re open like a Bordel
Nonstop deliveries of new military equipment
What is this 5D chessmaster doing?
Philosophying about Brics, Turkish stream and other dream streams
This man is so naive and producer one desaster ater another no wonder about minsk 2, ns2, grain deals,…
https://t.me/ZandVchannel/79023
🇹🇷🇷🇺 Turkey has suspended the creation of a gas hub due to disagreements with Moscow – Ankara itself wants to own a future storage facility
The creation of a gas hub in Turkey has been suspended due to disagreements between Ankara and Moscow, Reuters writes, citing sources. The “blue fuel” from this storage was supposed to go to Europe. However, apparently, this winter the EU will have to do without Russian gas.
According to the publication, the stumbling block was the right to manage the gas hub. Probably, we are talking about Gazprom and the Turkish energy company BOTAS. It is also unclear at what stage the construction project was before it was frozen. In addition, Ankara planned to connect the Trans-Anatolian pipeline to the storage facility, which fills Azerbaijan with gas.
So it all looks like another attempt by Erdogan to make Turkey a world resource center at the expense of Russia. In turn, Moscow is interested in this project from the point of view of replacing the falling volumes of European supplies.
Posted by: SlowSoft | Sep 15 2023 16:54 utc | 58
“Europe is run by middle class leftie retards.
Who ironically are blood thirsty monster’s.”
jpc @16
“What the hell happened?”
Boris Badenov @23
The progressive left has embraced the blood worship and bloodlust of the Canaanite entities.
Posted by: Jerr | Sep 15 2023 17:26 utc | 59
“Europe is run by middle class leftie retards.
Who ironically are blood thirsty monster’s.”
jpc @16
“What the hell happened?”
Boris Badenov @23
The progressive left has embraced the blood worship and bloodlust of the Canaanite entities.
Posted by: Jerr | Sep 15 2023 17:26 utc | 60
@ nc/10
Thank you! Still reading this interesting source. It’a a marxist analysis of the situation.
Posted by: venice12 | Sep 15 2023 17:26 utc | 61
@ nc/10
Thank you! Still reading this interesting source. It’a a marxist analysis of the situation.
Posted by: venice12 | Sep 15 2023 17:26 utc | 62
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 15 2023 15:43 utc | 22
U re bored about such news?
Imagine ukronazis sent ur son into minefields?
It would be an old chewed story for u?
War crimes re not a one way road!
Its like with prisoners exchanges
U ve 100 POWs we ve 100 POWs
Let’s exchange
U torture 100 POWs we torture 100 POWs
U sent 100 POWs into a minesfield we ll send 100 of urs
But 5D chessmaster is acting like JESUS
He is sending them to turkey beaches or giving them Russian passports
Not really the right path to impress Nazis
Posted by: SlowSoft | Sep 15 2023 17:27 utc | 63
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 15 2023 15:43 utc | 22
U re bored about such news?
Imagine ukronazis sent ur son into minefields?
It would be an old chewed story for u?
War crimes re not a one way road!
Its like with prisoners exchanges
U ve 100 POWs we ve 100 POWs
Let’s exchange
U torture 100 POWs we torture 100 POWs
U sent 100 POWs into a minesfield we ll send 100 of urs
But 5D chessmaster is acting like JESUS
He is sending them to turkey beaches or giving them Russian passports
Not really the right path to impress Nazis
Posted by: SlowSoft | Sep 15 2023 17:27 utc | 64
A very interesting interview by Scott Ritter with Dmitry Trenin, a research professor at the Moscow Higher School of Economics and a lead research fellow at the Institute of World Economy and International Relations. A member of the Russian International Affairs Council and a Colonel of the Russian Military Intelligence (retired)
Scott Ritter Show Ep. 45
https://rumble.com/v3h6ot8-scott-ritter-show-ep.-45.html
Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Sep 15 2023 17:32 utc | 65
A very interesting interview by Scott Ritter with Dmitry Trenin, a research professor at the Moscow Higher School of Economics and a lead research fellow at the Institute of World Economy and International Relations. A member of the Russian International Affairs Council and a Colonel of the Russian Military Intelligence (retired)
Scott Ritter Show Ep. 45
https://rumble.com/v3h6ot8-scott-ritter-show-ep.-45.html
Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Sep 15 2023 17:32 utc | 66
“…if they push for imperialist war, support extreme economic polarization, etc then they are actually middle class rightie retards posing as left to make it all look “progressive”.
Ahenobarbus@24
Yes. It would be interesting to learn what those who characterise the Conservative government of the UK, for example, or Macron’s warmed over Action Francaise as ‘lefties’ are thinking, if that word can be used in the context.
We live, by general consensus, in a Capitalist system, in which a ruling class whose power is based on its control over the economy and therefore the media, Academy and the general culture, is distinguished by its fierce opposition to socialists and others who, from the left, challenge capitalism.
And yet, so bigoted and idiotic are some observers, who have grown up as racists or homophobes, that when the Prime Minister, a billionaire capitalist is discovered to have dark skin or his colleagues opine that homosexuals should be allowed to do what they do, or when they, anticipating attacks on capitalist polluters, deflect them by calling for higher energy costs or lower heating standards, all are denounced as ‘leftists’.
The corruption of political discourse and the constant trafficking in lies and obvious conspiracy theories is designed to put an end to those rational public discussions leading to social consensus which are the real threats to the ruling class. Divide and Rule has always been the motto of ruling minorities whose power depends upon the disunity of their victims.
The great fear that capitalists have is that the masses will wake up to the irrefutable truth that the capitalist system of production is making the extinction of humanity, within a couple of decades, a real possibility. And that this, combined with all the other justifications for replacing the system with a more rational and egalitarian way of life, will put an end to their power and their privilege.
To postpone this calamity they use their power to make the solution of the environmental crisis unattractive for the very people-the poor and disfranchised- who would gain most from the ending of capitalism. They are told that the only real answer is to ban the use of fossil fuels, or to restrict their use by taxing them to the point that only the rich could pay to use them, and similar disincentives to facing reality.
This is why so many, otherwise sensible people, fearing state interference in their lives and lifestyles, take the easy way out by denying the observed phenomena that indicate changes in the climate, at a time when those changes are, relatively, gradual and cumulative though there are indications that we are approaching a time when the permafrost thaws and and calamitous events ensue.
Posted by: bevin | Sep 15 2023 17:34 utc | 67
“…if they push for imperialist war, support extreme economic polarization, etc then they are actually middle class rightie retards posing as left to make it all look “progressive”.
Ahenobarbus@24
Yes. It would be interesting to learn what those who characterise the Conservative government of the UK, for example, or Macron’s warmed over Action Francaise as ‘lefties’ are thinking, if that word can be used in the context.
We live, by general consensus, in a Capitalist system, in which a ruling class whose power is based on its control over the economy and therefore the media, Academy and the general culture, is distinguished by its fierce opposition to socialists and others who, from the left, challenge capitalism.
And yet, so bigoted and idiotic are some observers, who have grown up as racists or homophobes, that when the Prime Minister, a billionaire capitalist is discovered to have dark skin or his colleagues opine that homosexuals should be allowed to do what they do, or when they, anticipating attacks on capitalist polluters, deflect them by calling for higher energy costs or lower heating standards, all are denounced as ‘leftists’.
The corruption of political discourse and the constant trafficking in lies and obvious conspiracy theories is designed to put an end to those rational public discussions leading to social consensus which are the real threats to the ruling class. Divide and Rule has always been the motto of ruling minorities whose power depends upon the disunity of their victims.
The great fear that capitalists have is that the masses will wake up to the irrefutable truth that the capitalist system of production is making the extinction of humanity, within a couple of decades, a real possibility. And that this, combined with all the other justifications for replacing the system with a more rational and egalitarian way of life, will put an end to their power and their privilege.
To postpone this calamity they use their power to make the solution of the environmental crisis unattractive for the very people-the poor and disfranchised- who would gain most from the ending of capitalism. They are told that the only real answer is to ban the use of fossil fuels, or to restrict their use by taxing them to the point that only the rich could pay to use them, and similar disincentives to facing reality.
This is why so many, otherwise sensible people, fearing state interference in their lives and lifestyles, take the easy way out by denying the observed phenomena that indicate changes in the climate, at a time when those changes are, relatively, gradual and cumulative though there are indications that we are approaching a time when the permafrost thaws and and calamitous events ensue.
Posted by: bevin | Sep 15 2023 17:34 utc | 68
Posted by: bored | Sep 15 2023 14:45 utc | 12
“Basically, all of its guns are installed in depth at a distance inaccessible to our artillery.”
“Our people say that it is very difficult, almost impossible, to catch them; after the second sighting shot they move and change position.”
These quotes though seem far more telling. Notwithstanding all the stories you see of Ukraine levelling the artillery playing field, Ukrainian guns shooting from extreme range or moving every couple of shots suggests that they’ve actually made very little progress. A very bad thing for Ukraine when 80% of casualties are artillery casualties.
Posted by: OnceWere | Sep 15 2023 15:08 utc | 11
A bit more flesh would help: You are suggesting that Ukraine has longer-reach artillery than Russia. Maybe. But what guns are you talking about, and when did Ukraine aquire them? Until recently, the story went that Russia could shoot a couple of kilometers further than Ukraine, with exception of the mysterious HIMARS, that for some reason Russia can’t find an antidote against.
Posted by: Marvin | Sep 15 2023 17:38 utc | 69
Posted by: bored | Sep 15 2023 14:45 utc | 12
“Basically, all of its guns are installed in depth at a distance inaccessible to our artillery.”
“Our people say that it is very difficult, almost impossible, to catch them; after the second sighting shot they move and change position.”
These quotes though seem far more telling. Notwithstanding all the stories you see of Ukraine levelling the artillery playing field, Ukrainian guns shooting from extreme range or moving every couple of shots suggests that they’ve actually made very little progress. A very bad thing for Ukraine when 80% of casualties are artillery casualties.
Posted by: OnceWere | Sep 15 2023 15:08 utc | 11
A bit more flesh would help: You are suggesting that Ukraine has longer-reach artillery than Russia. Maybe. But what guns are you talking about, and when did Ukraine aquire them? Until recently, the story went that Russia could shoot a couple of kilometers further than Ukraine, with exception of the mysterious HIMARS, that for some reason Russia can’t find an antidote against.
Posted by: Marvin | Sep 15 2023 17:38 utc | 70
Today they have switched to squeeze-out tactics, they are massively using cluster shells, inflicting fire on the strong points of our units, assault groups, they have a lot of ammunition, they are trying to burn out absolutely everything. Yes, this situation forces our troops to retreat deeper. Not far, but in some places they lost up to 10 kilometers of territory. The enemy has somewhere occupied our defensive positions, which are very well equipped with our own hands.
After the refraction of the defense line, the enemies created conditions for the impossibility of using anti-tank missiles by our helicopters; due to the deflection of the line, they became accessible to enemy MANPADS. The efficiency of our helicopters has decreased.
The enemy has learned to work with our very well-made minefields. They competently clear them of mines, inflicting artillery fire and using trawls.
Our artillery has improved the quality of counter-battery warfare. There are results, but again the enemy is adapting. Basically, all of its guns are installed in depth at a distance inaccessible to our artillery. An estimated two artillery brigades were concentrated in the “hottest” directions, not counting the artillery of local brigades. We burned a lot of their towed artillery, they switched to using self-propelled guns. Our people say that it is very difficult, almost impossible, to catch them; after the second sighting shot they move and change position.
Down South 3
The Ukies are using massive amounts of cluster munitions, supplied by US. How long will the supply last? As for Ukie artillery being out of range of Russian artillery, that can’t be the same kind of artillery. A standard 152mm shell and a standard 155mm shell will have about the same range. The longer range stuff must be HIMARS.
The big question is how long can the Ukies keep this up? They are sacrificing massive amounts of personnel to gain limited ground. Robotyno area looks more and more like a firebag, where the Ukies are getting in deeper and deeper while their men and supplies are attritted. The next few weeks will be telling.
Posted by: Mike R | Sep 15 2023 17:40 utc | 71
Today they have switched to squeeze-out tactics, they are massively using cluster shells, inflicting fire on the strong points of our units, assault groups, they have a lot of ammunition, they are trying to burn out absolutely everything. Yes, this situation forces our troops to retreat deeper. Not far, but in some places they lost up to 10 kilometers of territory. The enemy has somewhere occupied our defensive positions, which are very well equipped with our own hands.
After the refraction of the defense line, the enemies created conditions for the impossibility of using anti-tank missiles by our helicopters; due to the deflection of the line, they became accessible to enemy MANPADS. The efficiency of our helicopters has decreased.
The enemy has learned to work with our very well-made minefields. They competently clear them of mines, inflicting artillery fire and using trawls.
Our artillery has improved the quality of counter-battery warfare. There are results, but again the enemy is adapting. Basically, all of its guns are installed in depth at a distance inaccessible to our artillery. An estimated two artillery brigades were concentrated in the “hottest” directions, not counting the artillery of local brigades. We burned a lot of their towed artillery, they switched to using self-propelled guns. Our people say that it is very difficult, almost impossible, to catch them; after the second sighting shot they move and change position.
Down South 3
The Ukies are using massive amounts of cluster munitions, supplied by US. How long will the supply last? As for Ukie artillery being out of range of Russian artillery, that can’t be the same kind of artillery. A standard 152mm shell and a standard 155mm shell will have about the same range. The longer range stuff must be HIMARS.
The big question is how long can the Ukies keep this up? They are sacrificing massive amounts of personnel to gain limited ground. Robotyno area looks more and more like a firebag, where the Ukies are getting in deeper and deeper while their men and supplies are attritted. The next few weeks will be telling.
Posted by: Mike R | Sep 15 2023 17:40 utc | 72
“… Bolsheviks in the US State Department supplied MASSIVE amounts of material and armaments to the Soviets. All of the aluminum, steel, including armor plate, avgas, rubber, trucks, explosives, and a lot of the food came from the US. Not many people are aware of the Soviet-Japanese non-aggression pact that Stalin signed (look it up)….”
That would be the pact that Japan agreed to after Zhukov and the Red Army had defeated Japanese attacks on the Soviet Union in 1939.
“…The Bolsheviks in the State department were also the ones that forced Japan into war with the US.
And these same Bolsheviks are still there. People like Nuland. And they hate White Russians (Russian Orthodox)…” JackG@27
So there we have it, from Jack: McCarthy was right, the State Department was full of Communists, though nobody was ever actually to identify them. FDR was a Communist. The Pentagon was run by Communists. And it still is.
Seek treatment Jack, delusions like these could overwhelm you.
Posted by: bevin | Sep 15 2023 17:42 utc | 73
“… Bolsheviks in the US State Department supplied MASSIVE amounts of material and armaments to the Soviets. All of the aluminum, steel, including armor plate, avgas, rubber, trucks, explosives, and a lot of the food came from the US. Not many people are aware of the Soviet-Japanese non-aggression pact that Stalin signed (look it up)….”
That would be the pact that Japan agreed to after Zhukov and the Red Army had defeated Japanese attacks on the Soviet Union in 1939.
“…The Bolsheviks in the State department were also the ones that forced Japan into war with the US.
And these same Bolsheviks are still there. People like Nuland. And they hate White Russians (Russian Orthodox)…” JackG@27
So there we have it, from Jack: McCarthy was right, the State Department was full of Communists, though nobody was ever actually to identify them. FDR was a Communist. The Pentagon was run by Communists. And it still is.
Seek treatment Jack, delusions like these could overwhelm you.
Posted by: bevin | Sep 15 2023 17:42 utc | 74
While Russian air defenses shot down 8 long ranged missiles to Crimea, 3 got through, causing damage to naval vessels. These of course were hugely aided by US ISR and likely operated by NATO personnel. Putin said a while ago if they give longer range missiles to Ukraine, then that means RUssia will just take more territory.
So now I’m wondering if this puts pressure to shoot down US surveillance drones directly and push towards Odessa. To attack US assets is seemingly justified if they’re directly aiding in the conflict, but it would be a very significant escalation.
Posted by: Matthew | Sep 15 2023 17:45 utc | 75
While Russian air defenses shot down 8 long ranged missiles to Crimea, 3 got through, causing damage to naval vessels. These of course were hugely aided by US ISR and likely operated by NATO personnel. Putin said a while ago if they give longer range missiles to Ukraine, then that means RUssia will just take more territory.
So now I’m wondering if this puts pressure to shoot down US surveillance drones directly and push towards Odessa. To attack US assets is seemingly justified if they’re directly aiding in the conflict, but it would be a very significant escalation.
Posted by: Matthew | Sep 15 2023 17:45 utc | 76
Posted by: Boris Badenov | Sep 15 2023 15:56 utc | 23
If you walk around in EUropean city centres you see many shops closed, shut down. Price of basic food is high. Intrest rates are increasing, and paying the mortgage begins to bite. There’s a whiff of decline. OTOH, if you look around you see the bars are full.
To keep Ukraine from losing, the US has to send arms, and the EU has to send money. Take away one of the two, and we enter the endgame. And while the EU certainly has the resources to fund Ukraine today, maintaining Ukraine for an indefinite amount of time – a frozen conflict – is beyond the current EU budget. But then again, if tomorrow the EU perishes, so what?
Posted by: Passerby | Sep 15 2023 17:47 utc | 77
Posted by: Boris Badenov | Sep 15 2023 15:56 utc | 23
If you walk around in EUropean city centres you see many shops closed, shut down. Price of basic food is high. Intrest rates are increasing, and paying the mortgage begins to bite. There’s a whiff of decline. OTOH, if you look around you see the bars are full.
To keep Ukraine from losing, the US has to send arms, and the EU has to send money. Take away one of the two, and we enter the endgame. And while the EU certainly has the resources to fund Ukraine today, maintaining Ukraine for an indefinite amount of time – a frozen conflict – is beyond the current EU budget. But then again, if tomorrow the EU perishes, so what?
Posted by: Passerby | Sep 15 2023 17:47 utc | 78
Posted by: ctiger | Sep 15 2023 15:40 utc | 19
No doubt many Russian defense successes.
However, according to TASS … RuS Mod is also reporting great increases in shelling in civilian areas, Belograd & Donetsk, where shelling or droning a market has turned into taking out 2 entire apt buildings of people and many civilian sites and civilians on the uptick drastically.
Obviously Ukraine is finished with actually making a “military” gain. It’s now, from Belograd to Zaporizhzhia to Crimea, simply going to go ape**it blowing up, droning, destroying in any way possible any and every thing possible.
Just saying daily “line combat reports”… becoming pretty useless now that “ISIS style terrorist tactics has been adopted & the NATO/US West funds, equips & endorses it as a “winning tactic”.
The political desperation at play as well, Ze needs “something” even lots of Russian civilian deaths to approach Congress for that 21 Billion next week.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 15 2023 17:49 utc | 79
Posted by: ctiger | Sep 15 2023 15:40 utc | 19
No doubt many Russian defense successes.
However, according to TASS … RuS Mod is also reporting great increases in shelling in civilian areas, Belograd & Donetsk, where shelling or droning a market has turned into taking out 2 entire apt buildings of people and many civilian sites and civilians on the uptick drastically.
Obviously Ukraine is finished with actually making a “military” gain. It’s now, from Belograd to Zaporizhzhia to Crimea, simply going to go ape**it blowing up, droning, destroying in any way possible any and every thing possible.
Just saying daily “line combat reports”… becoming pretty useless now that “ISIS style terrorist tactics has been adopted & the NATO/US West funds, equips & endorses it as a “winning tactic”.
The political desperation at play as well, Ze needs “something” even lots of Russian civilian deaths to approach Congress for that 21 Billion next week.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 15 2023 17:49 utc | 80
Many people are saying that Ukraine is doomed because it’s depleting it’s male population.
The opposite, however, is true.
You see once 95% of Ukraine’s men are gone you will be left only eith the most superior specimen. They will dedicate their lives to mate with Ukrainian women, the money will be provided by NATO, to create a much more purified, powerful master race. Where all men are as vigorous as reznikov, refined and smart-looking like zelensky and streamlined like budanov.
Posted by: T6 | Sep 15 2023 18:08 utc | 81
Many people are saying that Ukraine is doomed because it’s depleting it’s male population.
The opposite, however, is true.
You see once 95% of Ukraine’s men are gone you will be left only eith the most superior specimen. They will dedicate their lives to mate with Ukrainian women, the money will be provided by NATO, to create a much more purified, powerful master race. Where all men are as vigorous as reznikov, refined and smart-looking like zelensky and streamlined like budanov.
Posted by: T6 | Sep 15 2023 18:08 utc | 82
RE: “The progressive left has embraced the blood worship and bloodlust of the Canaanite entities.”
Posted by: Jerr | Sep 15 2023 17:26 utc | 30
I disagree. The Anglo-Saxon West has always been a death parasitic cult questing for World Domination for 500 years at least.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 15 2023 18:10 utc | 83
RE: “The progressive left has embraced the blood worship and bloodlust of the Canaanite entities.”
Posted by: Jerr | Sep 15 2023 17:26 utc | 30
I disagree. The Anglo-Saxon West has always been a death parasitic cult questing for World Domination for 500 years at least.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 15 2023 18:10 utc | 84
reply to 7
The link is from US News And World Report. And there are claims that commercial sats can see the port. I don’t think either of these are Pro -Russian, quite the contrary. So, I still wonder where the after photos are. A picture’s worth a thousand words? Russo phobes should provide them……unless….
Posted by: Eighthman | Sep 15 2023 18:13 utc | 85
reply to 7
The link is from US News And World Report. And there are claims that commercial sats can see the port. I don’t think either of these are Pro -Russian, quite the contrary. So, I still wonder where the after photos are. A picture’s worth a thousand words? Russo phobes should provide them……unless….
Posted by: Eighthman | Sep 15 2023 18:13 utc | 86
@32
yeah 5D Jesus! )
Last 20-30 years 5D Jesus and his 6D Petrus Lavrov preached 24/7 like a prayer wheel the holly words „Western Partners“ & „small russian (ukros) brothers“.
5D Jesus predicted a holly route from Lissabon to Vladivostok
1-2 russian generations got daily brainwashed with the 5D holly words of western partners & small russian brothers on the holly way from Vladivostok to Lissabon.
And today in reality?
– the holly western partner turns out to be a nazi wolf in
sheep’s clothing
– the lovely small brother turns out to be a nazi butcher who
torturing and killing russian POWs & civilian
– the holly 5D Jesusroute turns out to be only from Vladivostok
to Pjongjang in NK & Moscow to Ankara
– Russian soldiers re totally confused! How do want to motivate
and explain a fighter who was 20 years brainwashed with the
the holly words about western partners and small brothers
that today they re western nazis and big russian butchers?
5D Jesus & 6D Petrus Lavrov ve totally failed in their foreign policy believing every BS* from their partners & small brothers.
Today we re all witnessing the crowning of desaster called SMO with Denazification & Demilitarization ))))))
Posted by: tesla | Sep 15 2023 18:24 utc | 87
@32
yeah 5D Jesus! )
Last 20-30 years 5D Jesus and his 6D Petrus Lavrov preached 24/7 like a prayer wheel the holly words „Western Partners“ & „small russian (ukros) brothers“.
5D Jesus predicted a holly route from Lissabon to Vladivostok
1-2 russian generations got daily brainwashed with the 5D holly words of western partners & small russian brothers on the holly way from Vladivostok to Lissabon.
And today in reality?
– the holly western partner turns out to be a nazi wolf in
sheep’s clothing
– the lovely small brother turns out to be a nazi butcher who
torturing and killing russian POWs & civilian
– the holly 5D Jesusroute turns out to be only from Vladivostok
to Pjongjang in NK & Moscow to Ankara
– Russian soldiers re totally confused! How do want to motivate
and explain a fighter who was 20 years brainwashed with the
the holly words about western partners and small brothers
that today they re western nazis and big russian butchers?
5D Jesus & 6D Petrus Lavrov ve totally failed in their foreign policy believing every BS* from their partners & small brothers.
Today we re all witnessing the crowning of desaster called SMO with Denazification & Demilitarization ))))))
Posted by: tesla | Sep 15 2023 18:24 utc | 88
@ Boris Badenov | Sep 15 2023 15:56 utc | 23
Post-war western Europe is run by a patriciate class; a self-perpetuating oligarchy of interconnected insiders. Collectively, they have no loyalty to anyone but themselves. Individually, their sense of entitlement and poor ethics make them easy for corporations and intelligence agencies to compromise.
Posted by: Figleaf23 | Sep 15 2023 18:28 utc | 89
@ Boris Badenov | Sep 15 2023 15:56 utc | 23
Post-war western Europe is run by a patriciate class; a self-perpetuating oligarchy of interconnected insiders. Collectively, they have no loyalty to anyone but themselves. Individually, their sense of entitlement and poor ethics make them easy for corporations and intelligence agencies to compromise.
Posted by: Figleaf23 | Sep 15 2023 18:28 utc | 90
interesting take from a Polish newspaper https://t.me/Slavyangrad/63227
According to the Polish newspaper Mysl Polska, what happened in the area of Orekhova and Rabotino in the Zaporozhye region is far from the success of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
As pressure from the Russian Airborne Forces increased, this section of the front, surrounded on three sides, turned into a death trap. Ukrainian troops found themselves in the center of a ring of fire, the publication quotes the Militarist channel.
They are under constant fire from three directions. Russian artillery, aerospace forces, loitering ammunition and FPV drones do not ignore the Ukrainian group for a minute.
Posted by: ctiger | Sep 15 2023 18:29 utc | 91
interesting take from a Polish newspaper https://t.me/Slavyangrad/63227
According to the Polish newspaper Mysl Polska, what happened in the area of Orekhova and Rabotino in the Zaporozhye region is far from the success of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
As pressure from the Russian Airborne Forces increased, this section of the front, surrounded on three sides, turned into a death trap. Ukrainian troops found themselves in the center of a ring of fire, the publication quotes the Militarist channel.
They are under constant fire from three directions. Russian artillery, aerospace forces, loitering ammunition and FPV drones do not ignore the Ukrainian group for a minute.
Posted by: ctiger | Sep 15 2023 18:29 utc | 92
EU has now banned Russian registered cars from moving into or within the bloc. They may confiscate the cars and possessions of Russian citizens. This will most likely also paralyze the remaining trade between Russia and EU controlled states.
This is obviously a US / Blinken/Sullivan issued order to EU to reinforce their delusional vision of Cold War 2.0.
It won’t turn Russian people against Russian government, it will only strengthen the country.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 15 2023 18:29 utc | 93
EU has now banned Russian registered cars from moving into or within the bloc. They may confiscate the cars and possessions of Russian citizens. This will most likely also paralyze the remaining trade between Russia and EU controlled states.
This is obviously a US / Blinken/Sullivan issued order to EU to reinforce their delusional vision of Cold War 2.0.
It won’t turn Russian people against Russian government, it will only strengthen the country.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 15 2023 18:29 utc | 94
“I disagree. The Anglo-Saxon West has always been a death parasitic cult questing for World Domination for 500 years at least.”
Trubind1 @42
That’s the just the anti-colonialist wet dream you’re parroting.
The list of those seeking world domination is global, cross cultural, multiracial, and spans all religions. It can be easily argued that the European Christian phase has been the least aggressive and most positive; but that discussion would be off thread.
However, the disregard for human life has been a characteristic of the progressive left throughout the 20th century.
Posted by: Jerr | Sep 15 2023 18:32 utc | 95
“I disagree. The Anglo-Saxon West has always been a death parasitic cult questing for World Domination for 500 years at least.”
Trubind1 @42
That’s the just the anti-colonialist wet dream you’re parroting.
The list of those seeking world domination is global, cross cultural, multiracial, and spans all religions. It can be easily argued that the European Christian phase has been the least aggressive and most positive; but that discussion would be off thread.
However, the disregard for human life has been a characteristic of the progressive left throughout the 20th century.
Posted by: Jerr | Sep 15 2023 18:32 utc | 96
Posted by: Marvin | Sep 15 2023 17:38 utc | 35
“You are suggesting that Ukraine has longer-reach artillery than Russia.”
I actually would have thought that the largest calibre Russian guns outranged the Western 155 mm models even if the 152 mm ones don’t – but perhaps the largest Russian guns are in short supply or not devoted to counterbattery duty. Nevertheless the report suggests that Ukrainian artillery is either always operating from extreme range or moving position after every fire mission – i.e. Russia still maintains a handy artillery superiority.
Posted by: OnceWere | Sep 15 2023 18:36 utc | 97
Posted by: Marvin | Sep 15 2023 17:38 utc | 35
“You are suggesting that Ukraine has longer-reach artillery than Russia.”
I actually would have thought that the largest calibre Russian guns outranged the Western 155 mm models even if the 152 mm ones don’t – but perhaps the largest Russian guns are in short supply or not devoted to counterbattery duty. Nevertheless the report suggests that Ukrainian artillery is either always operating from extreme range or moving position after every fire mission – i.e. Russia still maintains a handy artillery superiority.
Posted by: OnceWere | Sep 15 2023 18:36 utc | 98
@47
ups western partners confiscating russian cars and maybe russian underwear as well?
how will 5D jesus kremlin gang response?
they will stick a holly jesus picture on each car window with german plates?
Posted by: tesla | Sep 15 2023 18:37 utc | 99
@47
ups western partners confiscating russian cars and maybe russian underwear as well?
how will 5D jesus kremlin gang response?
they will stick a holly jesus picture on each car window with german plates?
Posted by: tesla | Sep 15 2023 18:37 utc | 100