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September 12, 2023
Ukraine Open Thread 2023-215

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Our source in the OP said that Andrei Ermak held several meetings with political technologists on the parliamentary elections. At Bankova they came to the conclusion that it was necessary to create a wide range of spoiler parties, which should enter the Rada and then form a majority.
At the moment, a pool of three political projects has already been formed: Zelensky’s Bloc, Fedorov’s Diya party and Arestovich’s party. Now the Office of the President wants to create a party of military personnel and volunteers, as well as de-reanimate old political projects that should draw votes away from the main competitors.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/19624

Posted by: Down South | Sep 13 2023 4:45 utc | 201

Our source in the OP said that Andrei Ermak held several meetings with political technologists on the parliamentary elections. At Bankova they came to the conclusion that it was necessary to create a wide range of spoiler parties, which should enter the Rada and then form a majority.
At the moment, a pool of three political projects has already been formed: Zelensky’s Bloc, Fedorov’s Diya party and Arestovich’s party. Now the Office of the President wants to create a party of military personnel and volunteers, as well as de-reanimate old political projects that should draw votes away from the main competitors.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/19624

Posted by: Down South | Sep 13 2023 4:45 utc | 202

The Office of the President is actively working on new political projects; Akhmetov provides funding for the political projects of Arestovich and Usik. Arestovich’s party must crush the electorate of the South-East, and Usik must go against Klitschko, the calculation is very accurate and will help Ermak form a parliamentary majority in the new Rada. Several volunteers and military personnel are preparing against Pritula, who are supposed to enter the Soros electoral field.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/19627

Posted by: Down South | Sep 13 2023 4:47 utc | 203

The Office of the President is actively working on new political projects; Akhmetov provides funding for the political projects of Arestovich and Usik. Arestovich’s party must crush the electorate of the South-East, and Usik must go against Klitschko, the calculation is very accurate and will help Ermak form a parliamentary majority in the new Rada. Several volunteers and military personnel are preparing against Pritula, who are supposed to enter the Soros electoral field.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/19627

Posted by: Down South | Sep 13 2023 4:47 utc | 204

Our source reports that most of the Office and Ministerial “stole”/wrote off budget money for the purchase of ammunition.
The fact that they bought old stuff and poor quality at the “golden price” is half the problem. This has been talked about many times.
But it got to the point that empty boxes arrived and officials turned a blind eye to this, and then, according to papers, they allocated this BC to brigades which then had a terrible deficit and the soldiers paid with their lives for corruption in the highest echelons of power.
The same situation is in the air defense case. For example, the installation should have 4 missiles, but in fact there are 3 of them, but according to the papers there are 4. Then they wrote off all 4 during the Geranium or Caliber raid, and someone bought themselves a new apartment in Paris.
They also wrote off ammunition and equipment after a kamikaze drone raid on warehouses within a hundred-kilometer zone from the LBS. There is generally a terrible mess and theft there.
According to the most conservative estimates, more than a hundred billion hryvnia of the budget were stolen.

https://t.me/legitimniy/16235

Posted by: Down South | Sep 13 2023 4:49 utc | 205

Our source reports that most of the Office and Ministerial “stole”/wrote off budget money for the purchase of ammunition.
The fact that they bought old stuff and poor quality at the “golden price” is half the problem. This has been talked about many times.
But it got to the point that empty boxes arrived and officials turned a blind eye to this, and then, according to papers, they allocated this BC to brigades which then had a terrible deficit and the soldiers paid with their lives for corruption in the highest echelons of power.
The same situation is in the air defense case. For example, the installation should have 4 missiles, but in fact there are 3 of them, but according to the papers there are 4. Then they wrote off all 4 during the Geranium or Caliber raid, and someone bought themselves a new apartment in Paris.
They also wrote off ammunition and equipment after a kamikaze drone raid on warehouses within a hundred-kilometer zone from the LBS. There is generally a terrible mess and theft there.
According to the most conservative estimates, more than a hundred billion hryvnia of the budget were stolen.

https://t.me/legitimniy/16235

Posted by: Down South | Sep 13 2023 4:49 utc | 206

Putin bragging about upcoming weapon systems applying “new physics” –
What the hell is he talking about? Wormholes? To make NATO disappear? Sandworms? Warp-speed? Time-Travel?
Posted by: AG | Sep 13 2023 4:19 utc | 93

No idea (but very intrigued). But also not a completely new announcement, apparently. From 2019:
https://tass.com/defense/1103381
MOSCOW, December 25. /TASS/. Russia is developing air defense systems based on new physical principles, Air Defense Force Chief Lieutenant-General Alexander Leonov said on Wednesday.
“Eventually, there are plans to arm air defense troops with systems based on new physical principles, which are currently being developed,” the general said in an interview with the Defense Ministry’s Krasnaya Zvezda newspaper.
New physical principles are a notional term used to underline that the weapon’s destructive factors are based on processes and phenomena that were not earlier applied for military purposes. The weapons based on these principles include laser and microwave guns, sonic weapons, electromagnetic bombs and others.

Posted by: Comacho in Chief | Sep 13 2023 4:49 utc | 207

Putin bragging about upcoming weapon systems applying “new physics” –
What the hell is he talking about? Wormholes? To make NATO disappear? Sandworms? Warp-speed? Time-Travel?
Posted by: AG | Sep 13 2023 4:19 utc | 93

No idea (but very intrigued). But also not a completely new announcement, apparently. From 2019:
https://tass.com/defense/1103381
MOSCOW, December 25. /TASS/. Russia is developing air defense systems based on new physical principles, Air Defense Force Chief Lieutenant-General Alexander Leonov said on Wednesday.
“Eventually, there are plans to arm air defense troops with systems based on new physical principles, which are currently being developed,” the general said in an interview with the Defense Ministry’s Krasnaya Zvezda newspaper.
New physical principles are a notional term used to underline that the weapon’s destructive factors are based on processes and phenomena that were not earlier applied for military purposes. The weapons based on these principles include laser and microwave guns, sonic weapons, electromagnetic bombs and others.

Posted by: Comacho in Chief | Sep 13 2023 4:49 utc | 208

War = loot
This is exactly how 90% of rear army rats perceive the war, who earn money from:
– sale of duty stations in the rear
– sale of the right to vacations, time off and sick leave
– sale of fuel and consumables from military units
– fake fees to help the brigade
– writing off money for equipment repairs
– replacing good products with worthless ones, which are then fed to soldiers
– sale of certificates of service
– help in getting out of the army
– help to avoid hitting zero
– prescribing bonuses and allowances for yourself and your “dead souls”
– bookkeeping write-offs
– write-off of expensive equipment (UAVs, etc.).
We wrote about all these schematoses even before it became mainstream in Ukraine.
We can only say one thing, what is now being revealed is only a small tip of the entire corruption system that has formed in Ukraine over the past 550 days. Most of the money was stolen from the purchase of ammunition and equipment. This case was supervised by Ermak and Reznikov.

https://t.me/legitimniy/16236

Posted by: Down South | Sep 13 2023 4:50 utc | 209

War = loot
This is exactly how 90% of rear army rats perceive the war, who earn money from:
– sale of duty stations in the rear
– sale of the right to vacations, time off and sick leave
– sale of fuel and consumables from military units
– fake fees to help the brigade
– writing off money for equipment repairs
– replacing good products with worthless ones, which are then fed to soldiers
– sale of certificates of service
– help in getting out of the army
– help to avoid hitting zero
– prescribing bonuses and allowances for yourself and your “dead souls”
– bookkeeping write-offs
– write-off of expensive equipment (UAVs, etc.).
We wrote about all these schematoses even before it became mainstream in Ukraine.
We can only say one thing, what is now being revealed is only a small tip of the entire corruption system that has formed in Ukraine over the past 550 days. Most of the money was stolen from the purchase of ammunition and equipment. This case was supervised by Ermak and Reznikov.

https://t.me/legitimniy/16236

Posted by: Down South | Sep 13 2023 4:50 utc | 210

Re: Posted by: Constantine | Sep 13 2023 1:05 utc | 80
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I wonder…how many other nations could’ve done that?
Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 13 2023 1:48 utc | 82Posted by: Trubind1
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I credit Putin as an unelected benevolent monarch. Not that he did not enrich himself, but he curtailed the robbery of the Russian economy and as a benevolent despot straightened the place out. The scleratic Russian military is experiencing its own rejuvenation moment, courtesy of the school of Hard Knocks.
It might be a while before I can see the Bolshoi again. At least the West has not had an attack of stupid in math. Nikolai Ivanovich Lobachevsky invented non-linear multidimensional geometry around 1826. It still stands. I even wrote a dissertation and some research publications, crediting Minkovsky who took it another step further.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Sep 13 2023 4:51 utc | 211

Re: Posted by: Constantine | Sep 13 2023 1:05 utc | 80
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I wonder…how many other nations could’ve done that?
Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 13 2023 1:48 utc | 82Posted by: Trubind1
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I credit Putin as an unelected benevolent monarch. Not that he did not enrich himself, but he curtailed the robbery of the Russian economy and as a benevolent despot straightened the place out. The scleratic Russian military is experiencing its own rejuvenation moment, courtesy of the school of Hard Knocks.
It might be a while before I can see the Bolshoi again. At least the West has not had an attack of stupid in math. Nikolai Ivanovich Lobachevsky invented non-linear multidimensional geometry around 1826. It still stands. I even wrote a dissertation and some research publications, crediting Minkovsky who took it another step further.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Sep 13 2023 4:51 utc | 212

⁉️What will happen to Moldova if Ukraine declares war on Russia?
The Office of the President of Ukraine is again discussing the issue of declaring war on the Russian Federation. As the Ukrainian Telegram channel “Resident” reports, citing an informed source, a particular intensity in the discussion of this topic has been observed in recent days. In addition, the topic is actively promoted by nationalist Ukrainian experts.
They believe that this move is a possible option that will allow Kyiv, by raising the stakes, to secure more decisive assistance from the United States. Ukraine will also be able to count on payment of reparations from Russia in case of victory. Given the deplorable state of the Ukrainian economy, this is a significant argument in favor of declaring war.
However, this option also has risks. This development of events could lead to an escalation of the conflict and transfer it to other countries. The Republic of Belarus and Moldova are primarily at risk. It is still unclear how Lukashenko will behave, while Sandu is one of Zelensky’s most loyal allies in Europe.
Given the location of the operational group of Russian troops in Transnistria, there are risks that the Ukrainian Armed Forces will try to seize weapons depots there and provoke Russian peacekeepers. Such a development of events will contradict the Memorandum on the basis for the normalization of relations between the Republic of Moldova and Transnistria, signed on May 8, 1997, the guarantors of which are the Russian Federation and Ukraine.
It remains to advise the leadership of Moldova to have a cool head and not use the war in Ukraine as an opportunity to resolve the “Transnistrian issue” by armed means, and not to succumb to provocations from Western countries and Ukraine in order to avoid being drawn into someone else’s conflict.

https://t.me/md_krot/5862

Already Moldovan telegram channels were alarmed by the information that the Ukrainian authorities, in agony, could declare official war on Russia and drag Moldova into it through the Transnistrian case.
To achieve this, there will be an attack on warehouses in Kolbasnaya and the Russian Armed Forces stationed in the PMR, which will destabilize the situation in the region.
We also remind you that we wrote about rumors that Zelensky could use this tool as a last chance.

https://t.me/legitimniy/16238

Posted by: Down South | Sep 13 2023 4:52 utc | 213

⁉️What will happen to Moldova if Ukraine declares war on Russia?
The Office of the President of Ukraine is again discussing the issue of declaring war on the Russian Federation. As the Ukrainian Telegram channel “Resident” reports, citing an informed source, a particular intensity in the discussion of this topic has been observed in recent days. In addition, the topic is actively promoted by nationalist Ukrainian experts.
They believe that this move is a possible option that will allow Kyiv, by raising the stakes, to secure more decisive assistance from the United States. Ukraine will also be able to count on payment of reparations from Russia in case of victory. Given the deplorable state of the Ukrainian economy, this is a significant argument in favor of declaring war.
However, this option also has risks. This development of events could lead to an escalation of the conflict and transfer it to other countries. The Republic of Belarus and Moldova are primarily at risk. It is still unclear how Lukashenko will behave, while Sandu is one of Zelensky’s most loyal allies in Europe.
Given the location of the operational group of Russian troops in Transnistria, there are risks that the Ukrainian Armed Forces will try to seize weapons depots there and provoke Russian peacekeepers. Such a development of events will contradict the Memorandum on the basis for the normalization of relations between the Republic of Moldova and Transnistria, signed on May 8, 1997, the guarantors of which are the Russian Federation and Ukraine.
It remains to advise the leadership of Moldova to have a cool head and not use the war in Ukraine as an opportunity to resolve the “Transnistrian issue” by armed means, and not to succumb to provocations from Western countries and Ukraine in order to avoid being drawn into someone else’s conflict.

https://t.me/md_krot/5862

Already Moldovan telegram channels were alarmed by the information that the Ukrainian authorities, in agony, could declare official war on Russia and drag Moldova into it through the Transnistrian case.
To achieve this, there will be an attack on warehouses in Kolbasnaya and the Russian Armed Forces stationed in the PMR, which will destabilize the situation in the region.
We also remind you that we wrote about rumors that Zelensky could use this tool as a last chance.

https://t.me/legitimniy/16238

Posted by: Down South | Sep 13 2023 4:52 utc | 214

The government with all its actions shows that it has a shortage of manpower and mobilization has failed. Nobody wants to die for Ze-Power, so everyone has to be forced to the front.
You can trust David Arakhamia, they will try to do this, but as usual they will not succeed. Most likely this is another scare.
Yes, they will now try to pull/catch all the men from wherever they went (they tried to do this before).
It’s not just that the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine is doing everything to make the life of Ukrainian refugees worse, and the governments of different countries are canceling benefits, benefits and time of stay. The goal is to force everyone to return and fight for Zee-power. So far it’s turning out very bad.

https://t.me/legitimniy/16161

As we immediately described, this is what happens.
There will be no extradition of Ukrainians upon request for evading mobilization from European countries. Many have already stated this. We are waiting for the last countries that can still meet Ukraine – these are the Baltic countries.
There is a special approach. We advise you not to live there, but to leave. They may not expel you from there, but life will be made more difficult for you.

https://t.me/legitimniy/16239

Posted by: Down South | Sep 13 2023 4:55 utc | 215

The government with all its actions shows that it has a shortage of manpower and mobilization has failed. Nobody wants to die for Ze-Power, so everyone has to be forced to the front.
You can trust David Arakhamia, they will try to do this, but as usual they will not succeed. Most likely this is another scare.
Yes, they will now try to pull/catch all the men from wherever they went (they tried to do this before).
It’s not just that the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine is doing everything to make the life of Ukrainian refugees worse, and the governments of different countries are canceling benefits, benefits and time of stay. The goal is to force everyone to return and fight for Zee-power. So far it’s turning out very bad.

https://t.me/legitimniy/16161

As we immediately described, this is what happens.
There will be no extradition of Ukrainians upon request for evading mobilization from European countries. Many have already stated this. We are waiting for the last countries that can still meet Ukraine – these are the Baltic countries.
There is a special approach. We advise you not to live there, but to leave. They may not expel you from there, but life will be made more difficult for you.

https://t.me/legitimniy/16239

Posted by: Down South | Sep 13 2023 4:55 utc | 216

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ Ukroreich has begun to admit the Failure of the Counteroffensive⚡️
🔹Zelensky and Budanov have seen the light and recognize the summer fiasco. If anyone thinks this is prudence and admitting mistakes, he is mistaken.
🔹Western masters forced them to do it, the rhetoric changed following the change of tone in Washington and after a kick from the high masters who came to #Kiev.
🔹Only Ukrainians can constantly escalate and hang noodles, in the West it is necessary to somehow follow the words. If there were any luck, they would close their eyes to everything. But the counteroffensive is a complete defeat.
🔹#Ukraine has lost at least 500k soldiers since the beginning. This is no longer denied even by high representatives of the United States.
🔹NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg confirmed the losses of the Ukrainian army: “Nobody said it would be easy” 🤡
🔹The AFUshniks are dying? And the Yankees aren’t tired yet. Go ahead, dogs, to the slaughter. The AFU began to rake in the oblique, sick and poor, to expel from the EU the Ukrainian refugees capable of holding weapons back to the Square.
🔹The soldiers at the front are running out, the vaunted Western equipment is burning for a dear soul. Ours beat them standing, lying down, jumping, one on one, one on a tank against 8 enemy vehicles. Even the best English tank Challenger 2, which the Shavers cherished like the apple of their eye and blew away the dust, was destroyed by the Russian army for the first time in history. And where there is one, there are two.
🔹But Budanov and Zelensky announce: The second bloody act of counterattack has begun: Autumn.
🔹And here it’s time for the ukro-soldiers who did not have time to go abroad, who do not have money and connections in the highest echelons of power to escape, to be very sad.
📌 Ukroreich has already passed a verdict: the dry land will rot in the mud, drown in the swamps and freeze in the trenches. Kiev has the most perverted plans for the extermination of the nation.
📜 Archangel of Special Forces Z

https://t.me/sitreports/14914

Posted by: Down South | Sep 13 2023 4:57 utc | 217

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ Ukroreich has begun to admit the Failure of the Counteroffensive⚡️
🔹Zelensky and Budanov have seen the light and recognize the summer fiasco. If anyone thinks this is prudence and admitting mistakes, he is mistaken.
🔹Western masters forced them to do it, the rhetoric changed following the change of tone in Washington and after a kick from the high masters who came to #Kiev.
🔹Only Ukrainians can constantly escalate and hang noodles, in the West it is necessary to somehow follow the words. If there were any luck, they would close their eyes to everything. But the counteroffensive is a complete defeat.
🔹#Ukraine has lost at least 500k soldiers since the beginning. This is no longer denied even by high representatives of the United States.
🔹NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg confirmed the losses of the Ukrainian army: “Nobody said it would be easy” 🤡
🔹The AFUshniks are dying? And the Yankees aren’t tired yet. Go ahead, dogs, to the slaughter. The AFU began to rake in the oblique, sick and poor, to expel from the EU the Ukrainian refugees capable of holding weapons back to the Square.
🔹The soldiers at the front are running out, the vaunted Western equipment is burning for a dear soul. Ours beat them standing, lying down, jumping, one on one, one on a tank against 8 enemy vehicles. Even the best English tank Challenger 2, which the Shavers cherished like the apple of their eye and blew away the dust, was destroyed by the Russian army for the first time in history. And where there is one, there are two.
🔹But Budanov and Zelensky announce: The second bloody act of counterattack has begun: Autumn.
🔹And here it’s time for the ukro-soldiers who did not have time to go abroad, who do not have money and connections in the highest echelons of power to escape, to be very sad.
📌 Ukroreich has already passed a verdict: the dry land will rot in the mud, drown in the swamps and freeze in the trenches. Kiev has the most perverted plans for the extermination of the nation.
📜 Archangel of Special Forces Z

https://t.me/sitreports/14914

Posted by: Down South | Sep 13 2023 4:57 utc | 218

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦🪖On the Formation of New AFU Brigades⚡️
🔹Nothing speaks better of the upcoming total mobilization and heavy enemy losses, as well as plans for the autumn campaign, than the measures to form new brigades.
▪️ Five Separate Mechanized Brigades are planned to be formed by the end of October. And four infantry formations, judging by the intercepts, are almost ready, and we will soon see them on the battlefield. And that’s without taking into account the 5th tank brigade of 10th Army Corps, which is expected to be commissioned by the end of the year.
❗️Interesting what the Ukrainian commanders are emphasising when creating new units. Infantry brigades, given the favourite tactic of “meat assault”, will be equipped only with light armoured vehicles and will act as expendable material to replace the depleted 9th and 10th AK forces.
▪️ They should overwhelm in numbers and cut into the defence, creating favourable conditions for the introduction of mechanized groups into the battle. The five new brigades are likely to be taken into account in the enemy’s plan. The forced transfer of equipment from Germany plays with new colours in connection with this information.
📌 In general, this suggests that conceptually the tactics of Ukrainian formations will not change for the time being and, as predicted, total mobilization will have to cover the shortage of personnel to continue the creeping offensive, primarily in the #Zaporozhye direction.
🗺 High Resolution: 🇬🇧 MAP; 🇷🇺 MAP
📜 RYBAR

https://t.me/sitreports/14932

Posted by: Down South | Sep 13 2023 4:59 utc | 219

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦🪖On the Formation of New AFU Brigades⚡️
🔹Nothing speaks better of the upcoming total mobilization and heavy enemy losses, as well as plans for the autumn campaign, than the measures to form new brigades.
▪️ Five Separate Mechanized Brigades are planned to be formed by the end of October. And four infantry formations, judging by the intercepts, are almost ready, and we will soon see them on the battlefield. And that’s without taking into account the 5th tank brigade of 10th Army Corps, which is expected to be commissioned by the end of the year.
❗️Interesting what the Ukrainian commanders are emphasising when creating new units. Infantry brigades, given the favourite tactic of “meat assault”, will be equipped only with light armoured vehicles and will act as expendable material to replace the depleted 9th and 10th AK forces.
▪️ They should overwhelm in numbers and cut into the defence, creating favourable conditions for the introduction of mechanized groups into the battle. The five new brigades are likely to be taken into account in the enemy’s plan. The forced transfer of equipment from Germany plays with new colours in connection with this information.
📌 In general, this suggests that conceptually the tactics of Ukrainian formations will not change for the time being and, as predicted, total mobilization will have to cover the shortage of personnel to continue the creeping offensive, primarily in the #Zaporozhye direction.
🗺 High Resolution: 🇬🇧 MAP; 🇷🇺 MAP
📜 RYBAR

https://t.me/sitreports/14932

Posted by: Down South | Sep 13 2023 4:59 utc | 220

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ War Map and the Situation on the Fronts for the Evening of 12 September 2023; pub. 00:05⚡️
🫶 Somewhere “Geraniums” are blooming, and somewhere “Beavers” are decomposing. And we are not talking about flora and fauna, but about UAVs, whose influence on the conduct of modern warfare is hard not to recognise. The special operation demonstrated that drones, especially attack drones, are no longer necessary. Both Russia and 404 have realised this. But the approaches are different, so the nomenclature of weapons is different. By what? Read more in a new report by the Readovka Information and Analytical Centre.
⚔️ Situation on the Fronts over the past day
🔹#Svatovo – #Kremennaya Direction:
▪️ Near #Kupyansk our fighters continue to expand the zone of control near #Sinkovka and #Petropavlovka.
▪️ At #Torskoye, Russian warriors repelled all onslaughts of militants, just like in the #Serebryanskoye forest.
🔹#Bakhmut (#Artyomovsk) Direction:
▪️ In #Kleshcheyevka fierce fighting continues, ours counterattacked. As it became known ✌, there is almost nothing left of the village, which prevents fighting. So far, the AFU has distinguished itself with the mass use of cluster shells and kamikaze drones.
▪️ There is also fighting in the south of #Andreyevka, now the settlement is in the grey zone.
▪️ In addition, near #Bakhmut, a media “Azovian” with the call sign “Farsh” from the 3rd Assault Brigade of the AFU was destroyed.
🔹#Zaporozhye Direction:
▪️ In the #Orekhov section the AFU managed to wedge itself between #Rabotino and #Verbovoye at the cost of heavy losses. But the Russian army regularly counterattacks, preventing the militants from gaining ground.
▪️ Meanwhile, on the #Vremyevka ledge, the enemy unsuccessfully attacked our positions near #Novodonetskoye and #Novomayorskoye.
⚡️ War is a complicated business, so Russian fighters have to learn a lot, especially when it comes to equipment, especially unmanned equipment. Nowadays, a UAV operator is a valuable manpower in any unit. But such personnel should be trained qualitatively, which is what the school “Archangel” is doing, where our guys not only produce “birds”, but also train military personnel in the #Zaporozhye direction. We have everything for this. 3D printers, consumables, computer simulators and most importantly – experience.

https://t.me/sitreports/14933

Posted by: Down South | Sep 13 2023 5:00 utc | 221

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ War Map and the Situation on the Fronts for the Evening of 12 September 2023; pub. 00:05⚡️
🫶 Somewhere “Geraniums” are blooming, and somewhere “Beavers” are decomposing. And we are not talking about flora and fauna, but about UAVs, whose influence on the conduct of modern warfare is hard not to recognise. The special operation demonstrated that drones, especially attack drones, are no longer necessary. Both Russia and 404 have realised this. But the approaches are different, so the nomenclature of weapons is different. By what? Read more in a new report by the Readovka Information and Analytical Centre.
⚔️ Situation on the Fronts over the past day
🔹#Svatovo – #Kremennaya Direction:
▪️ Near #Kupyansk our fighters continue to expand the zone of control near #Sinkovka and #Petropavlovka.
▪️ At #Torskoye, Russian warriors repelled all onslaughts of militants, just like in the #Serebryanskoye forest.
🔹#Bakhmut (#Artyomovsk) Direction:
▪️ In #Kleshcheyevka fierce fighting continues, ours counterattacked. As it became known ✌, there is almost nothing left of the village, which prevents fighting. So far, the AFU has distinguished itself with the mass use of cluster shells and kamikaze drones.
▪️ There is also fighting in the south of #Andreyevka, now the settlement is in the grey zone.
▪️ In addition, near #Bakhmut, a media “Azovian” with the call sign “Farsh” from the 3rd Assault Brigade of the AFU was destroyed.
🔹#Zaporozhye Direction:
▪️ In the #Orekhov section the AFU managed to wedge itself between #Rabotino and #Verbovoye at the cost of heavy losses. But the Russian army regularly counterattacks, preventing the militants from gaining ground.
▪️ Meanwhile, on the #Vremyevka ledge, the enemy unsuccessfully attacked our positions near #Novodonetskoye and #Novomayorskoye.
⚡️ War is a complicated business, so Russian fighters have to learn a lot, especially when it comes to equipment, especially unmanned equipment. Nowadays, a UAV operator is a valuable manpower in any unit. But such personnel should be trained qualitatively, which is what the school “Archangel” is doing, where our guys not only produce “birds”, but also train military personnel in the #Zaporozhye direction. We have everything for this. 3D printers, consumables, computer simulators and most importantly – experience.

https://t.me/sitreports/14933

Posted by: Down South | Sep 13 2023 5:00 utc | 222

Changes in enemy offensive tactics – analysis from @Multi_XAM
Most public pages are filled with alarmed messages and comments that the Russian army is allegedly retreating to Zaporozhye. During war, panic and self-deprecation are not the best help. She rather plays a destructive role. Seeing how our audience rinses itself, no TsIPsO are needed. I would like to ask the question, whose side are you on… Today, the first place for us should be a sober assessment of what is happening, based on objective data, multiplied by a reasonable amount of self-criticism and a forecast.
There have been many alarming statements surrounding Rabotino and the enemy’s attempts to break through to Verbovoy in recent days. We conducted a detailed analysis of the situation on September 7, 2023. Today we will look at changes in enemy tactics.
The Orekhovsky sector, almost from the very beginning of the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ counter-offensive, was chosen as the direction of the main attack aimed at Tokmak. The General Staff of the Ukrainian Armed Forces concentrated the maximum number of forces here ( more than 10 brigades ), hoping to cut the land corridor to Crimea with two parallel strikes from Orekhov and further east in the Rovnopol-Velikaya Novoselovka strip. This is the main goal of the entire counteroffensive. A little later we will analyze the western maps, but for now we will focus on these two areas:
1️⃣ Firstly, the enemy suffered significant losses, and the forces holding back his onslaught on our part were represented by six brigades and attached units, which were practically not rotated, operating in conditions of a constant shortage of ammunition and problems with counter-battery combat, as he openly stated former commander of the 58th combined arms army, Major General I. Popov. This situation has no solution to this day, and our troops on the ground are counterattacking morally and volitionally, causing considerable damage to the enemy.
2️⃣ Secondly, the enemy is up against a deeply echeloned system of engineering and defensive fortifications – the so-called. “Surovikin line” ( I would like to say in the words of Marshal K.K. Rokossovsky, but I’ll restrain myself ). In terms of the number of destroyed equipment, the Orekhovsky and Veliko-Novoselovsky sections exceed any other combat areas. On the southern flank of Bakhmut, despite the intense fighting, the enemy’s losses in equipment and manpower are lower due to the fact that smaller forces are concentrated there.
Having assessed the scale of losses in relation to the area of territory occupied by the Ukrainian Armed Forces over three months, NATO advisers adjusted Ukrainian tactics. Now the enemy will continue offensive operations with the forces of small assault groups ( up to a platoon in size ), which will be consolidated on occupied lines with the support of artillery and aviation, and the actions of the attacking units will move from reconnaissance-strike to shock-assault tactics.
The human resources of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are being depleted, mobilization activities are complicated by the general moral and psychological decline among the population, despite attempts by Ukrainian resources to raise morale. Kyiv has already brought operational reserve units into battle. In some areas, along with units of the National Guard, battalions formed from employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs PPS are fighting. The main reserve units were transferred to the territory of the Dnepropetrovsk region.
As long as the enemy’s railway network is not disabled, Kiev has the opportunity to transfer them both in the direction of Krivoy Rog for delivery to the Kherson front, and along the Pavlograd – Pokrovsk – Kurakhovo branch with access to Ugledar. We have no reason to relax, but we must adequately evaluate the “successes” of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, understanding with what forces the Russian Armed Forces held back the enemy’s attacks for three months.

https://t.me/geromanat/9760

Posted by: Down South | Sep 13 2023 5:02 utc | 223

Changes in enemy offensive tactics – analysis from @Multi_XAM
Most public pages are filled with alarmed messages and comments that the Russian army is allegedly retreating to Zaporozhye. During war, panic and self-deprecation are not the best help. She rather plays a destructive role. Seeing how our audience rinses itself, no TsIPsO are needed. I would like to ask the question, whose side are you on… Today, the first place for us should be a sober assessment of what is happening, based on objective data, multiplied by a reasonable amount of self-criticism and a forecast.
There have been many alarming statements surrounding Rabotino and the enemy’s attempts to break through to Verbovoy in recent days. We conducted a detailed analysis of the situation on September 7, 2023. Today we will look at changes in enemy tactics.
The Orekhovsky sector, almost from the very beginning of the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ counter-offensive, was chosen as the direction of the main attack aimed at Tokmak. The General Staff of the Ukrainian Armed Forces concentrated the maximum number of forces here ( more than 10 brigades ), hoping to cut the land corridor to Crimea with two parallel strikes from Orekhov and further east in the Rovnopol-Velikaya Novoselovka strip. This is the main goal of the entire counteroffensive. A little later we will analyze the western maps, but for now we will focus on these two areas:
1️⃣ Firstly, the enemy suffered significant losses, and the forces holding back his onslaught on our part were represented by six brigades and attached units, which were practically not rotated, operating in conditions of a constant shortage of ammunition and problems with counter-battery combat, as he openly stated former commander of the 58th combined arms army, Major General I. Popov. This situation has no solution to this day, and our troops on the ground are counterattacking morally and volitionally, causing considerable damage to the enemy.
2️⃣ Secondly, the enemy is up against a deeply echeloned system of engineering and defensive fortifications – the so-called. “Surovikin line” ( I would like to say in the words of Marshal K.K. Rokossovsky, but I’ll restrain myself ). In terms of the number of destroyed equipment, the Orekhovsky and Veliko-Novoselovsky sections exceed any other combat areas. On the southern flank of Bakhmut, despite the intense fighting, the enemy’s losses in equipment and manpower are lower due to the fact that smaller forces are concentrated there.
Having assessed the scale of losses in relation to the area of territory occupied by the Ukrainian Armed Forces over three months, NATO advisers adjusted Ukrainian tactics. Now the enemy will continue offensive operations with the forces of small assault groups ( up to a platoon in size ), which will be consolidated on occupied lines with the support of artillery and aviation, and the actions of the attacking units will move from reconnaissance-strike to shock-assault tactics.
The human resources of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are being depleted, mobilization activities are complicated by the general moral and psychological decline among the population, despite attempts by Ukrainian resources to raise morale. Kyiv has already brought operational reserve units into battle. In some areas, along with units of the National Guard, battalions formed from employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs PPS are fighting. The main reserve units were transferred to the territory of the Dnepropetrovsk region.
As long as the enemy’s railway network is not disabled, Kiev has the opportunity to transfer them both in the direction of Krivoy Rog for delivery to the Kherson front, and along the Pavlograd – Pokrovsk – Kurakhovo branch with access to Ugledar. We have no reason to relax, but we must adequately evaluate the “successes” of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, understanding with what forces the Russian Armed Forces held back the enemy’s attacks for three months.

https://t.me/geromanat/9760

Posted by: Down South | Sep 13 2023 5:02 utc | 224

Putin bragging about upcoming weapon systems applying “new physics” –
What the hell is he talking about? Wormholes? To make NATO disappear? Sandworms? Warp-speed? Time-Travel?
Posted by: AG | Sep 13 2023 4:19 utc | 93
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Quantum shells and missiles? They have no fixed location in time-space. Very hard to intercept! Lol.
AI bullets — they seek out 36.4 degree targets and go around trees. Lol.
Personally, I’m expecting the machine gun drone soon. I did once see a homemade rig — Uzi mounted on a FPV quadcopter.

Posted by: SCCC | Sep 13 2023 5:03 utc | 225

Putin bragging about upcoming weapon systems applying “new physics” –
What the hell is he talking about? Wormholes? To make NATO disappear? Sandworms? Warp-speed? Time-Travel?
Posted by: AG | Sep 13 2023 4:19 utc | 93
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Quantum shells and missiles? They have no fixed location in time-space. Very hard to intercept! Lol.
AI bullets — they seek out 36.4 degree targets and go around trees. Lol.
Personally, I’m expecting the machine gun drone soon. I did once see a homemade rig — Uzi mounted on a FPV quadcopter.

Posted by: SCCC | Sep 13 2023 5:03 utc | 226

The naval dockyards in Sevastapol have been hit!

Posted by: jpc | Sep 13 2023 5:32 utc | 227

The naval dockyards in Sevastapol have been hit!

Posted by: jpc | Sep 13 2023 5:32 utc | 228

As long as the enemy’s railway network is not disabled, Kiev has the opportunity to transfer them both in the direction of Krivoy Rog for delivery to the Kherson front, and along the Pavlograd – Pokrovsk – Kurakhovo branch with access to Ugledar.
https://t.me/geromanat/9760
Posted by: Down South | Sep 13 2023 5:02 utc | 112
Russia not going after key railways and roads is prolonging the war. As long as Ukrainians can keep moving heavy supplies to the front the war will stay hot.

Posted by: MiniMO | Sep 13 2023 5:51 utc | 229

As long as the enemy’s railway network is not disabled, Kiev has the opportunity to transfer them both in the direction of Krivoy Rog for delivery to the Kherson front, and along the Pavlograd – Pokrovsk – Kurakhovo branch with access to Ugledar.
https://t.me/geromanat/9760
Posted by: Down South | Sep 13 2023 5:02 utc | 112
Russia not going after key railways and roads is prolonging the war. As long as Ukrainians can keep moving heavy supplies to the front the war will stay hot.

Posted by: MiniMO | Sep 13 2023 5:51 utc | 230

The naval dockyards in Sevastapol have been hit!
Posted by: jpc | Sep 13 2023 5:32 utc | 115
Shadowbanned predicted this behavior and had said that it will get much worse when Russia refuses to take the war as serious as it should.

Posted by: MiniMo | Sep 13 2023 6:01 utc | 231

The naval dockyards in Sevastapol have been hit!
Posted by: jpc | Sep 13 2023 5:32 utc | 115
Shadowbanned predicted this behavior and had said that it will get much worse when Russia refuses to take the war as serious as it should.

Posted by: MiniMo | Sep 13 2023 6:01 utc | 232

The President’s Office pushed sociologists and they tried to explain to Ukrainians that their opinion was not correct!
It is worth understanding that all power is concentrated in the hands of the Office of the President, and Zelensky submits a candidacy: the Prime Minister, the Minister of Defense, appoints the heads of military administrations.
All security officials are Ermak’s clientele, and all top officials caught in corruption have left the country or continue to live quietly in Ukraine.
How are things going with Bakanov, Venediktova, Reznikov, Reznichenko, Timoshenko, Shevchenko and others.
While Kiril Tymoshenko and Reznikov are free, there is no need to talk about justice, one stole at the Big Construction Site, and the second made money from blood.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/19629

Posted by: Down South | Sep 13 2023 6:16 utc | 233

The President’s Office pushed sociologists and they tried to explain to Ukrainians that their opinion was not correct!
It is worth understanding that all power is concentrated in the hands of the Office of the President, and Zelensky submits a candidacy: the Prime Minister, the Minister of Defense, appoints the heads of military administrations.
All security officials are Ermak’s clientele, and all top officials caught in corruption have left the country or continue to live quietly in Ukraine.
How are things going with Bakanov, Venediktova, Reznikov, Reznichenko, Timoshenko, Shevchenko and others.
While Kiril Tymoshenko and Reznikov are free, there is no need to talk about justice, one stole at the Big Construction Site, and the second made money from blood.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/19629

Posted by: Down South | Sep 13 2023 6:16 utc | 234

Western missiles packed in Ukrainian shells are already actively used by the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
At night in Sevastopol, Sevmorzavod came under a missile attack, and the attack was massive, 10 missiles were launched, seven of which were shot down.
“As a result of being hit by enemy cruise missiles, two ships undergoing repairs were damaged,” the Russian Defense Ministry said in a statement.
There was also an attack by three unmanned boats that attacked a detachment of ships of the Black Sea Fleet at sea.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/19635

Posted by: Down South | Sep 13 2023 6:35 utc | 235

Western missiles packed in Ukrainian shells are already actively used by the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
At night in Sevastopol, Sevmorzavod came under a missile attack, and the attack was massive, 10 missiles were launched, seven of which were shot down.
“As a result of being hit by enemy cruise missiles, two ships undergoing repairs were damaged,” the Russian Defense Ministry said in a statement.
There was also an attack by three unmanned boats that attacked a detachment of ships of the Black Sea Fleet at sea.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/19635

Posted by: Down South | Sep 13 2023 6:35 utc | 236

Posted by: MiniMO | Sep 13 2023 5:51 utc | 116
but when those heavy supplies keep getting destroyed, and the West runs out of various weapons and support systems, and the Ukrainian Army collapses, those roads will still be there, no?

Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 13 2023 6:37 utc | 237

Posted by: MiniMO | Sep 13 2023 5:51 utc | 116
but when those heavy supplies keep getting destroyed, and the West runs out of various weapons and support systems, and the Ukrainian Army collapses, those roads will still be there, no?

Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 13 2023 6:37 utc | 238

Personally, I’m expecting the machine gun drone soon. ….
Posted by: SCCC | Sep 13 2023 5:03 utc | 113

Accurate single-shot fire would be more economical given weight restrictions but, either way, the problem is aiming with a useful degree of precision.
Note that dropping grenades from drones requires them to be directly above the target and the grenades usually have at least a few meters effective kill radius to compensate for near misses.
Making light firearms work from drones is another step up in complexity from the improvisations we’ve seen so far. The closest relevant tech I’ve seen is the Israeli “Smart Shooter” optics package where a target tracking computer takes over the trigger and fires with superhuman precision. It’s not specifically a drone system but it’s mostly just software and the connection is too obvious to ignore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91sf7B6WpbI

Posted by: anon2020 | Sep 13 2023 6:44 utc | 239

Personally, I’m expecting the machine gun drone soon. ….
Posted by: SCCC | Sep 13 2023 5:03 utc | 113

Accurate single-shot fire would be more economical given weight restrictions but, either way, the problem is aiming with a useful degree of precision.
Note that dropping grenades from drones requires them to be directly above the target and the grenades usually have at least a few meters effective kill radius to compensate for near misses.
Making light firearms work from drones is another step up in complexity from the improvisations we’ve seen so far. The closest relevant tech I’ve seen is the Israeli “Smart Shooter” optics package where a target tracking computer takes over the trigger and fires with superhuman precision. It’s not specifically a drone system but it’s mostly just software and the connection is too obvious to ignore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91sf7B6WpbI

Posted by: anon2020 | Sep 13 2023 6:44 utc | 240

Posted by: Zynon | Sep 13 2023 6:07 utc | 118
“Russia have failed to protect even Sevastopol, for 9 years they have the time to do that”
Could it be that russia tried it’s hardest, but simply can’t do it, even after trying for 9 years?

Posted by: Membrum Virile | Sep 13 2023 7:02 utc | 241

Posted by: Zynon | Sep 13 2023 6:07 utc | 118
“Russia have failed to protect even Sevastopol, for 9 years they have the time to do that”
Could it be that russia tried it’s hardest, but simply can’t do it, even after trying for 9 years?

Posted by: Membrum Virile | Sep 13 2023 7:02 utc | 242

but when those heavy supplies keep getting destroyed, and the West runs out of various weapons and support systems, and the Ukrainian Army collapses, those roads will still be there, no?
Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 13 2023 6:37 utc | 121
No. Ukr/nato will destroy everything, nothing will remain. Look at the destroyed dam, that’s the future. A gas pipe in Novaya Kakhovka was damaged by shelling today.
The smo helps them greatly because they fight only in Donbass, Crimea and border regions, not in Ukr. They have time to manufacture or receive new weapons and collect new kamikaze soldiers. Last night attacks on Crimea needed preparation, without a s(hitty)mo that can’t happen. If there’s more than 3-4 missiles and drones any target is destroyed. Some say that’s how Moskva was sunk, a few drones and at least one missile and target destroyed, the paper generals can’t process anything invented after cannons and catapults.

Posted by: rk | Sep 13 2023 7:03 utc | 243

but when those heavy supplies keep getting destroyed, and the West runs out of various weapons and support systems, and the Ukrainian Army collapses, those roads will still be there, no?
Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 13 2023 6:37 utc | 121
No. Ukr/nato will destroy everything, nothing will remain. Look at the destroyed dam, that’s the future. A gas pipe in Novaya Kakhovka was damaged by shelling today.
The smo helps them greatly because they fight only in Donbass, Crimea and border regions, not in Ukr. They have time to manufacture or receive new weapons and collect new kamikaze soldiers. Last night attacks on Crimea needed preparation, without a s(hitty)mo that can’t happen. If there’s more than 3-4 missiles and drones any target is destroyed. Some say that’s how Moskva was sunk, a few drones and at least one missile and target destroyed, the paper generals can’t process anything invented after cannons and catapults.

Posted by: rk | Sep 13 2023 7:03 utc | 244

Time is against the Armed Forces of Ukraine – there is about a month left before the rains start, and then the fields will turn into a swamp. As is known, cold and wet weather makes it difficult to transport military equipment and soldiers using wheeled vehicles, and Russian anti-tank defenses are quite strong.
Moreover, in a month, the already stalled counteroffensive will finally stop, and the Ukrainian authorities will be forced to admit its failure. Moreover, logistics will become significantly more complicated on muddy fields, and supplying Ukrainian units in the south will turn into a nightmare.
So Ukraine has 30-40 days to show significant achievements at the front, explaining to the West the feasibility of further funding the Armed Forces of Ukraine. At the same time, the main goal of the counteroffensive—access to the Sea of ​​Azov and cutting the land corridor to Crimea—remains out of reach. Moreover, the Ukrainian Armed Forces are still far from getting close to Tokmak, the most important logistics center, which is covered by several lines of defense of the Russian Armed Forces.
That’s why experts say it’s not just the weather. But the reality is that the Armed Forces of Ukraine today cannot solve large-scale operational and strategic tasks. That is, not to capture hitherto unknown villages in three months of bloody battles, but, say, to inflict a significant defeat on the Russian Armed Forces during the upcoming hostilities, and thereby, as a result, obtain support and new subsidies from the West.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/19636

Posted by: Down South | Sep 13 2023 7:04 utc | 245

Time is against the Armed Forces of Ukraine – there is about a month left before the rains start, and then the fields will turn into a swamp. As is known, cold and wet weather makes it difficult to transport military equipment and soldiers using wheeled vehicles, and Russian anti-tank defenses are quite strong.
Moreover, in a month, the already stalled counteroffensive will finally stop, and the Ukrainian authorities will be forced to admit its failure. Moreover, logistics will become significantly more complicated on muddy fields, and supplying Ukrainian units in the south will turn into a nightmare.
So Ukraine has 30-40 days to show significant achievements at the front, explaining to the West the feasibility of further funding the Armed Forces of Ukraine. At the same time, the main goal of the counteroffensive—access to the Sea of ​​Azov and cutting the land corridor to Crimea—remains out of reach. Moreover, the Ukrainian Armed Forces are still far from getting close to Tokmak, the most important logistics center, which is covered by several lines of defense of the Russian Armed Forces.
That’s why experts say it’s not just the weather. But the reality is that the Armed Forces of Ukraine today cannot solve large-scale operational and strategic tasks. That is, not to capture hitherto unknown villages in three months of bloody battles, but, say, to inflict a significant defeat on the Russian Armed Forces during the upcoming hostilities, and thereby, as a result, obtain support and new subsidies from the West.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/19636

Posted by: Down South | Sep 13 2023 7:04 utc | 246

Ukraine and Russia exchanged night missile/UAV strikes. Both sides are productive. Ukraine began striking the port infrastructure of Sevastopol, where they hit warships, damaging them.
Russia struck again at the port infrastructure of the Odessa region. Destroying dozens of trucks and the very entrance to loading at the port. By destroying granaries, etc.
Photo/video of attacks in the Odessa region.

https://t.me/legitimniy/16241

Posted by: Down South | Sep 13 2023 7:05 utc | 247

Ukraine and Russia exchanged night missile/UAV strikes. Both sides are productive. Ukraine began striking the port infrastructure of Sevastopol, where they hit warships, damaging them.
Russia struck again at the port infrastructure of the Odessa region. Destroying dozens of trucks and the very entrance to loading at the port. By destroying granaries, etc.
Photo/video of attacks in the Odessa region.

https://t.me/legitimniy/16241

Posted by: Down South | Sep 13 2023 7:05 utc | 248

Our source in the OP said that tonight for the first time, surface-to-surface guided missiles were used in Sevastopol, which were launched from British M270 MLRS.
The strike was combined and coordinated by MI-6, part of the missile was an air-to-ground Storm Shadow and launched from two fighters, and an M270 MLRS operated from the Nikolaev region.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/19637

Posted by: Down South | Sep 13 2023 7:34 utc | 249

Our source in the OP said that tonight for the first time, surface-to-surface guided missiles were used in Sevastopol, which were launched from British M270 MLRS.
The strike was combined and coordinated by MI-6, part of the missile was an air-to-ground Storm Shadow and launched from two fighters, and an M270 MLRS operated from the Nikolaev region.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/19637

Posted by: Down South | Sep 13 2023 7:34 utc | 250

Once again a massive media attack on Zelensky forcing him to escalate. If you guys think NATO is out of gear or can’t take out Russia in a fight your crazy. This war is just getting started and Z isn’t in charge

Posted by: OohCanada | Sep 13 2023 7:58 utc | 251

Once again a massive media attack on Zelensky forcing him to escalate. If you guys think NATO is out of gear or can’t take out Russia in a fight your crazy. This war is just getting started and Z isn’t in charge

Posted by: OohCanada | Sep 13 2023 7:58 utc | 252

Its so obvious what nato is doing, but they can claim plausible deniability thanks to their nonstop propaganda and censoring.
And russia cannot respond in kind without beeing accused of throwing the first stone.
They cannot obliterate how nato would, because effectievly, “ukraine“ keeps people of russian heritage as hostage more or less.
This will never end. Nato knows that it can do what it wants. Even if russia would start doing the same, sending advanced weapons to say serbia or syria, to do the same as “ukraine“ is doing and shoot at camp bondsteel or al tanf, nato would respond without hesitation like the nazis they are and kill military and civilians without hesitation in serbia/syria. And noone could stop them.
This is the issue at hand as i see this, as a chairborne that had to watch nato destroy yugoslavia with lies, deception, and genocide.
Russia can kill every last “ukrainian“ soldier and this nato agression wont stop still. This will spill over in eu countries sooner or later, all the while us and uk sit back and reap the profits, thanks to all the spineless propaganda prostitutes in the eu that let this happen. And they will blame it on everybody else than themselfs.
Thanks to the dollar, they can get ammunition from all around the world, basically endless supply. Theres enough countries that sell their lifes for the dollar no matter how much brics tries to undermine this racket.
I really wish countries would start openly siding and supporting russia and even hitting nato assets, so that those murderers get the messege. Because if not, they will continue. We all know this.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Sep 13 2023 7:58 utc | 253

Its so obvious what nato is doing, but they can claim plausible deniability thanks to their nonstop propaganda and censoring.
And russia cannot respond in kind without beeing accused of throwing the first stone.
They cannot obliterate how nato would, because effectievly, “ukraine“ keeps people of russian heritage as hostage more or less.
This will never end. Nato knows that it can do what it wants. Even if russia would start doing the same, sending advanced weapons to say serbia or syria, to do the same as “ukraine“ is doing and shoot at camp bondsteel or al tanf, nato would respond without hesitation like the nazis they are and kill military and civilians without hesitation in serbia/syria. And noone could stop them.
This is the issue at hand as i see this, as a chairborne that had to watch nato destroy yugoslavia with lies, deception, and genocide.
Russia can kill every last “ukrainian“ soldier and this nato agression wont stop still. This will spill over in eu countries sooner or later, all the while us and uk sit back and reap the profits, thanks to all the spineless propaganda prostitutes in the eu that let this happen. And they will blame it on everybody else than themselfs.
Thanks to the dollar, they can get ammunition from all around the world, basically endless supply. Theres enough countries that sell their lifes for the dollar no matter how much brics tries to undermine this racket.
I really wish countries would start openly siding and supporting russia and even hitting nato assets, so that those murderers get the messege. Because if not, they will continue. We all know this.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Sep 13 2023 7:58 utc | 254

Posted by: rk | Sep 13 2023 7:03 utc | 124
Judging by Down South’s links and quotes after your post, Russia is indeed doing something about attacking Ukrainian infrastructure. I don’t know about what the best way of going about that is, but I think political pressures in NATO countries are going to make continued support by NATO more difficult and costly.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 13 2023 8:08 utc | 255

Posted by: rk | Sep 13 2023 7:03 utc | 124
Judging by Down South’s links and quotes after your post, Russia is indeed doing something about attacking Ukrainian infrastructure. I don’t know about what the best way of going about that is, but I think political pressures in NATO countries are going to make continued support by NATO more difficult and costly.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 13 2023 8:08 utc | 256

What happened at the front was what President Zelensky’s Office feared most—the parties to the conflict got bogged down in a positional war, and Ukraine consistently suffered disproportionately more damage.
Every day, warehouses, rear facilities, troop locations, and infrastructure are destroyed. The Westerners are making up for the loss of supplies and equipment with increasing reluctance. And as we know, no adjustment in military strategy will be able to reverse the course of the armed conflict unless the volume of military assistance to Ukraine increases significantly.
But, according to the results of one recent study, the idea of ​​additional funding (including the provision of military assistance) to Ukraine is already supported by less than 50% of Americans. This partly reflects the weak progress of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in their counter-offensive, which brings very limited results. And this is a dangerous call for the Ukrainian authorities, since the United States provided Ukraine with the lion’s share of military support.
In fact, Ukraine’s counter-offensive was the only chance to receive further help – the Westerners invested quite “seriously” in securing Kyiv, but repeating such an investment is hardly possible.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/19638

Posted by: Down South | Sep 13 2023 8:09 utc | 257

What happened at the front was what President Zelensky’s Office feared most—the parties to the conflict got bogged down in a positional war, and Ukraine consistently suffered disproportionately more damage.
Every day, warehouses, rear facilities, troop locations, and infrastructure are destroyed. The Westerners are making up for the loss of supplies and equipment with increasing reluctance. And as we know, no adjustment in military strategy will be able to reverse the course of the armed conflict unless the volume of military assistance to Ukraine increases significantly.
But, according to the results of one recent study, the idea of ​​additional funding (including the provision of military assistance) to Ukraine is already supported by less than 50% of Americans. This partly reflects the weak progress of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in their counter-offensive, which brings very limited results. And this is a dangerous call for the Ukrainian authorities, since the United States provided Ukraine with the lion’s share of military support.
In fact, Ukraine’s counter-offensive was the only chance to receive further help – the Westerners invested quite “seriously” in securing Kyiv, but repeating such an investment is hardly possible.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/19638

Posted by: Down South | Sep 13 2023 8:09 utc | 258

Posted by: Justpassinby | Sep 13 2023 7:58 utc | 129
I think NATO is in the process of learning the limits of exactly what it can and cannot do. what the crazed warmongers in Washington DC will do in response is anyone’s guess.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 13 2023 8:10 utc | 259

Posted by: Justpassinby | Sep 13 2023 7:58 utc | 129
I think NATO is in the process of learning the limits of exactly what it can and cannot do. what the crazed warmongers in Washington DC will do in response is anyone’s guess.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 13 2023 8:10 utc | 260

On the situation on the Vremevsky ledge. The enemy’s offensive is obviously running out of steam here too. The enemy has no progress in the area of Urozhainy, Novodonetsk and Novomayorsky. Our troops, in turn, hold recently occupied positions in the Priyutnoye area.
At the Vremevsky site in the Novomayorsky area, the night passed relatively calmly. The enemy, it seems, will not give up attempts to break through in this direction and is now actively regrouping. Early in the morning, at dusk, a group of Ukrainian Armed Forces infantry tried to quietly, without equipment, reach the front line, but 3 km before the outskirts of Novomayorsky they were discovered and scattered by artillery. The enemy’s heavily thinned advanced forces were again left without reinforcements. During the night, the artillerymen of the n-howitzer division did an excellent job on the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in this direction; the Marines express respect for their work, fast and accurate.
Having not achieved success in these days in Novomayorsky , the enemy yesterday tried once again to advance west of Novodonetsky . He advanced without the support of armored vehicles, operated with foot units along forest belts, and was promptly opened and covered by artillery of the 36th Army .
North of Priyutny the enemy again tried to attack in small groups, but was unsuccessful. Suffered losses of up to 6 militants.
▪️ In the Ugledarsky sector, the positions of the Ukrainian Armed Forces from Ugledar to Novomikhailovka again suffered from artillery fire. The enemy responds by firing at our positions along the Pavlovka-Vladimirovka line.

https://t.me/geromanat/9819

Posted by: Down South | Sep 13 2023 8:14 utc | 261

On the situation on the Vremevsky ledge. The enemy’s offensive is obviously running out of steam here too. The enemy has no progress in the area of Urozhainy, Novodonetsk and Novomayorsky. Our troops, in turn, hold recently occupied positions in the Priyutnoye area.
At the Vremevsky site in the Novomayorsky area, the night passed relatively calmly. The enemy, it seems, will not give up attempts to break through in this direction and is now actively regrouping. Early in the morning, at dusk, a group of Ukrainian Armed Forces infantry tried to quietly, without equipment, reach the front line, but 3 km before the outskirts of Novomayorsky they were discovered and scattered by artillery. The enemy’s heavily thinned advanced forces were again left without reinforcements. During the night, the artillerymen of the n-howitzer division did an excellent job on the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in this direction; the Marines express respect for their work, fast and accurate.
Having not achieved success in these days in Novomayorsky , the enemy yesterday tried once again to advance west of Novodonetsky . He advanced without the support of armored vehicles, operated with foot units along forest belts, and was promptly opened and covered by artillery of the 36th Army .
North of Priyutny the enemy again tried to attack in small groups, but was unsuccessful. Suffered losses of up to 6 militants.
▪️ In the Ugledarsky sector, the positions of the Ukrainian Armed Forces from Ugledar to Novomikhailovka again suffered from artillery fire. The enemy responds by firing at our positions along the Pavlovka-Vladimirovka line.

https://t.me/geromanat/9819

Posted by: Down South | Sep 13 2023 8:14 utc | 262

☄️☄️☄️This was stated by the Romanian Minister of Transport, Sorin Grindeanu.
Romania has warned Kiev that it will consider Ukraine’s attempt to create its own canal from the Danube to the Black Sea, bypassing Romanian territory, as a “crossing of red lines”.
– Ukraine is trying to find alternative ways to go to sea. To achieve this goal, it is planned to continue deepening the Bystroe Danube Canal.
– However, Romania believes that Kiev already has the opportunity to use the Romanian Sulina canal and that there is no need to create a new route.
– Ships do not go to sea along the river delta itself.
The problem is competition. And a bit of ecology.
– The Danube, before flowing into the Black Sea, is divided into the Chilia branch (Ukraine) and the Sulina branch (Romania), along which the majority of goods flow.
– Ships of the “river-sea” class are loaded in the Ukrainian port of Izmail, go upstream, go to the territory of Romania and enter the Black Sea through the Sulina Channel.
– Bucharest sent a letter to the European Commission with a request to prevent the inclusion of the Bystroe Canal on the territory of Ukraine in the official European Union TEN-T transport network. That is, he asks not to give permission to the European courts to travel this artery.
– Already in February, Romanian MP Ana Maria Gavrile reminded that the deepening of the Ukrainian canal was prohibited by international standards more than 20 years ago.
“The Ukrainians used a narrative of fear, saying they were protecting Romania from the Russians so that we would let them do whatever they wanted. They would stop at nothing, even destroying the Danube Delta, a UNESCO-protected ecosystem☄️☄️☄️

https://t.me/geromanat/9759

Posted by: Down South | Sep 13 2023 8:17 utc | 263

☄️☄️☄️This was stated by the Romanian Minister of Transport, Sorin Grindeanu.
Romania has warned Kiev that it will consider Ukraine’s attempt to create its own canal from the Danube to the Black Sea, bypassing Romanian territory, as a “crossing of red lines”.
– Ukraine is trying to find alternative ways to go to sea. To achieve this goal, it is planned to continue deepening the Bystroe Danube Canal.
– However, Romania believes that Kiev already has the opportunity to use the Romanian Sulina canal and that there is no need to create a new route.
– Ships do not go to sea along the river delta itself.
The problem is competition. And a bit of ecology.
– The Danube, before flowing into the Black Sea, is divided into the Chilia branch (Ukraine) and the Sulina branch (Romania), along which the majority of goods flow.
– Ships of the “river-sea” class are loaded in the Ukrainian port of Izmail, go upstream, go to the territory of Romania and enter the Black Sea through the Sulina Channel.
– Bucharest sent a letter to the European Commission with a request to prevent the inclusion of the Bystroe Canal on the territory of Ukraine in the official European Union TEN-T transport network. That is, he asks not to give permission to the European courts to travel this artery.
– Already in February, Romanian MP Ana Maria Gavrile reminded that the deepening of the Ukrainian canal was prohibited by international standards more than 20 years ago.
“The Ukrainians used a narrative of fear, saying they were protecting Romania from the Russians so that we would let them do whatever they wanted. They would stop at nothing, even destroying the Danube Delta, a UNESCO-protected ecosystem☄️☄️☄️

https://t.me/geromanat/9759

Posted by: Down South | Sep 13 2023 8:17 utc | 264

Posted by: Justpassinby | Sep 13 2023 7:58 utc | 129
## I do understand how and why you (and many others) think that.
But you are seeeing and judging the strategies, tactics and results from the Amero-Euro-centric mindset. Russia does not think or play like that. I read soooo many people saying “Russia should do this and that”. But they don’t!. So people say thay are weak, disorganised, losers. But then they realise they’ve been shafted from behind while they were looking elsewhere!
Putin’s game has not been, and will never be to beat America at ITS OWN GAME. Everyone is expecting/wanting Russia to react in the “normal” way, of revenge, threats, big attacks, eye for eye. Won’t happen.
Russia has “beaten” the sanctions. Russia has “beaten” NATO. Russia has “beaten” Europe by its “other means”. The big game, the long game, cannot be won by Russia playing it in America’s way.
Have faith.

Posted by: SCCC | Sep 13 2023 8:37 utc | 265

Posted by: Justpassinby | Sep 13 2023 7:58 utc | 129
## I do understand how and why you (and many others) think that.
But you are seeeing and judging the strategies, tactics and results from the Amero-Euro-centric mindset. Russia does not think or play like that. I read soooo many people saying “Russia should do this and that”. But they don’t!. So people say thay are weak, disorganised, losers. But then they realise they’ve been shafted from behind while they were looking elsewhere!
Putin’s game has not been, and will never be to beat America at ITS OWN GAME. Everyone is expecting/wanting Russia to react in the “normal” way, of revenge, threats, big attacks, eye for eye. Won’t happen.
Russia has “beaten” the sanctions. Russia has “beaten” NATO. Russia has “beaten” Europe by its “other means”. The big game, the long game, cannot be won by Russia playing it in America’s way.
Have faith.

Posted by: SCCC | Sep 13 2023 8:37 utc | 266

Rybar:
❗️🇷🇺🇺🇦 Missile strike of Ukrainian air forces on Sevastopol
At around 3 a.m. on September 13 , Su-24M bombers of the Ukrainian Air Force launched ten Storm Shadow/SCALP cruise missiles at Sevastopol .
Five Su-24M took off from the Starokonstantinov airbase in the Khmelnitsky region. Four reached the missile launch line over the Nikolaev and Kherson regions, and one carried out an attack from the direction of Zmeiny Island .
Units of the 31st Air Force and Air Defense Division shot down seven targets: five by the Pantsir-S1 air defense system, one by the S-400 division, and the seventh missile by the MiG-31 fighter.
Unfortunately, three Storm Shadow missiles reached their target: the landing ship Minsk and the submarine Rostov-on-Don , which were in dry dock, received varying degrees of damage.
❗️We would like to pay special attention to the presence of “colorful” footage of arrivals from different angles, which will no doubt be used by Ukrainian structures to generate reports on the effectiveness of ongoing attacks, since they simplify the collection of information for the enemy.
After a long break, cruise missile attacks on Crimea have resumed. With a very high degree of probability, raids will continue in the coming days (and not only in Sevastopol).
In a recent analysis , we said that massive attacks on the Crimean Bridge should be expected in the coming week (we are not hinting at anything, but the Kiev Chabadniks will soon celebrate the New Year, and this public really loves such symbolism).
As for today’s attack, it looks like a rehearsal (timed, moreover, to coincide with the beginning of the battle for Sevastopol in 1854).

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/62953

Posted by: Down South | Sep 13 2023 8:37 utc | 267

Rybar:
❗️🇷🇺🇺🇦 Missile strike of Ukrainian air forces on Sevastopol
At around 3 a.m. on September 13 , Su-24M bombers of the Ukrainian Air Force launched ten Storm Shadow/SCALP cruise missiles at Sevastopol .
Five Su-24M took off from the Starokonstantinov airbase in the Khmelnitsky region. Four reached the missile launch line over the Nikolaev and Kherson regions, and one carried out an attack from the direction of Zmeiny Island .
Units of the 31st Air Force and Air Defense Division shot down seven targets: five by the Pantsir-S1 air defense system, one by the S-400 division, and the seventh missile by the MiG-31 fighter.
Unfortunately, three Storm Shadow missiles reached their target: the landing ship Minsk and the submarine Rostov-on-Don , which were in dry dock, received varying degrees of damage.
❗️We would like to pay special attention to the presence of “colorful” footage of arrivals from different angles, which will no doubt be used by Ukrainian structures to generate reports on the effectiveness of ongoing attacks, since they simplify the collection of information for the enemy.
After a long break, cruise missile attacks on Crimea have resumed. With a very high degree of probability, raids will continue in the coming days (and not only in Sevastopol).
In a recent analysis , we said that massive attacks on the Crimean Bridge should be expected in the coming week (we are not hinting at anything, but the Kiev Chabadniks will soon celebrate the New Year, and this public really loves such symbolism).
As for today’s attack, it looks like a rehearsal (timed, moreover, to coincide with the beginning of the battle for Sevastopol in 1854).

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/62953

Posted by: Down South | Sep 13 2023 8:37 utc | 268

Someone made an interesting notice about US announced aid packages to Ukraine. Namely, the quantities of things like shells and ATGMs have been removed, whereas small caliber ammunition are still there.
Yeah, basically they could send 1000 artillery shells in a given package, no one really knows, but the most likely reason is the quantity is getting pathetically small. Which completely coincides with Alexander Mercouris’ scenario where USA is set to give less next year than this year. Especially if we take into account the “free” Warsaw Pact stuff which was also given.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 13 2023 9:03 utc | 269

Someone made an interesting notice about US announced aid packages to Ukraine. Namely, the quantities of things like shells and ATGMs have been removed, whereas small caliber ammunition are still there.
Yeah, basically they could send 1000 artillery shells in a given package, no one really knows, but the most likely reason is the quantity is getting pathetically small. Which completely coincides with Alexander Mercouris’ scenario where USA is set to give less next year than this year. Especially if we take into account the “free” Warsaw Pact stuff which was also given.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 13 2023 9:03 utc | 270

𝐀𝐛𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐌𝐢𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐥𝐞 𝐬𝐭𝐫𝐢𝐤𝐞 𝐨𝐟 𝐔𝐤𝐫𝐚𝐢𝐧𝐢𝐚𝐧 𝐚𝐢𝐫 𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐜𝐞𝐬 𝐨𝐧 𝐒𝐞𝐯𝐚𝐬𝐭𝐨𝐩𝐨𝐥, 𝐑𝐲𝐛𝐚𝐫 𝐰𝐫𝐨𝐭𝐞:
At around 3 a.m. on September 13, Su-24M bombers of the Ukrainian Air Force launched ten Storm Shadow/SCALP cruise missiles at Sevastopol.
Five Su-24M took off from the Starokonstantinov airbase in the Khmelnitsky region. Four reached the missile launch line over the Nikolaev and Kherson regions, and one carried out an attack from the direction of Zmeiny Island.
Units of the 31st Air Force and Air Defense Division shot down seven targets: five by the Pantsir-S1 air defense system, one by the S-400 division, and the seventh missile by a MiG-31 fighter.
Unfortunately, three Storm Shadow missiles reached their target: the landing ship Minsk and the submarine Rostov-on-Don, which were in dry dock, received varying degrees of damage.
We would like to pay special attention to the presence of “colorful” footage of arrivals from different angles, which will no doubt be used by Ukrainian structures to generate reports on the effectiveness of ongoing attacks, since they simplify the collection of information for the enemy.
After a long break, cruise missile attacks on Crimea have resumed. With a very high degree of probability, raids will continue in the coming days (and not only in Sevastopol).
In a recent analysis, we said that massive attacks on the Crimean Bridge should be expected in the coming week (we are not hinting at anything, but the Kiev Chabadniks will soon celebrate the New Year, and this public really loves such symbolism).
As for today’s attack, it looks like a rehearsal (timed, moreover, to coincide with the beginning of the battle for Sevastopol in 1854).
#Crimea #Russia #Ukraine #BlackSea
https://twitter.com/Ramy_Sawma/status/1701874664581038277

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 13 2023 9:47 utc | 271

𝐀𝐛𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐌𝐢𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐥𝐞 𝐬𝐭𝐫𝐢𝐤𝐞 𝐨𝐟 𝐔𝐤𝐫𝐚𝐢𝐧𝐢𝐚𝐧 𝐚𝐢𝐫 𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐜𝐞𝐬 𝐨𝐧 𝐒𝐞𝐯𝐚𝐬𝐭𝐨𝐩𝐨𝐥, 𝐑𝐲𝐛𝐚𝐫 𝐰𝐫𝐨𝐭𝐞:
At around 3 a.m. on September 13, Su-24M bombers of the Ukrainian Air Force launched ten Storm Shadow/SCALP cruise missiles at Sevastopol.
Five Su-24M took off from the Starokonstantinov airbase in the Khmelnitsky region. Four reached the missile launch line over the Nikolaev and Kherson regions, and one carried out an attack from the direction of Zmeiny Island.
Units of the 31st Air Force and Air Defense Division shot down seven targets: five by the Pantsir-S1 air defense system, one by the S-400 division, and the seventh missile by a MiG-31 fighter.
Unfortunately, three Storm Shadow missiles reached their target: the landing ship Minsk and the submarine Rostov-on-Don, which were in dry dock, received varying degrees of damage.
We would like to pay special attention to the presence of “colorful” footage of arrivals from different angles, which will no doubt be used by Ukrainian structures to generate reports on the effectiveness of ongoing attacks, since they simplify the collection of information for the enemy.
After a long break, cruise missile attacks on Crimea have resumed. With a very high degree of probability, raids will continue in the coming days (and not only in Sevastopol).
In a recent analysis, we said that massive attacks on the Crimean Bridge should be expected in the coming week (we are not hinting at anything, but the Kiev Chabadniks will soon celebrate the New Year, and this public really loves such symbolism).
As for today’s attack, it looks like a rehearsal (timed, moreover, to coincide with the beginning of the battle for Sevastopol in 1854).
#Crimea #Russia #Ukraine #BlackSea
https://twitter.com/Ramy_Sawma/status/1701874664581038277

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 13 2023 9:47 utc | 272

Our source reports that Zelensky/Ermak gave instructions to the head of the SBU, Malyuk, to monitor the heads of the anti-corruption agencies of Ukraine (all those who work for the Western lobby).
They will try to discredit many people and set them up. Daddies are already gathering for many. They infiltrated their agents. This is the result, no one knows.This is carried out under the sign “secret”, reporting only to the president.
Zaruba is intensifying, everyone now cares about the internal case, and the war is becoming just a “picture and scare” for society. Zelensky understands that the West wants to softly drain him. Vladimir Aleksandrovich also knows that almost the entire Ukrainian elite knows this, and they can stop listening and start playing their own game.

https://t.me/legitimniy/16244

Posted by: Down South | Sep 13 2023 9:52 utc | 273

Our source reports that Zelensky/Ermak gave instructions to the head of the SBU, Malyuk, to monitor the heads of the anti-corruption agencies of Ukraine (all those who work for the Western lobby).
They will try to discredit many people and set them up. Daddies are already gathering for many. They infiltrated their agents. This is the result, no one knows.This is carried out under the sign “secret”, reporting only to the president.
Zaruba is intensifying, everyone now cares about the internal case, and the war is becoming just a “picture and scare” for society. Zelensky understands that the West wants to softly drain him. Vladimir Aleksandrovich also knows that almost the entire Ukrainian elite knows this, and they can stop listening and start playing their own game.

https://t.me/legitimniy/16244

Posted by: Down South | Sep 13 2023 9:52 utc | 274

Our source reports that Zelensky/Ermak gave instructions to the head of the SBU, Malyuk, to monitor the heads of the anti-corruption agencies of Ukraine (all those who work for the Western lobby).
They will try to discredit many people and set them up. Daddies are already gathering for many. They infiltrated their agents. This is the result, no one knows.This is carried out under the sign “secret”, reporting only to the president.
Zaruba is intensifying, everyone now cares about the internal case, and the war is becoming just a “picture and scare” for society. Zelensky understands that the West wants to softly drain him. Vladimir Aleksandrovich also knows that almost the entire Ukrainian elite knows this, and they can stop listening and start playing their own game.

https://t.me/legitimniy/16244

Posted by: Down South | Sep 13 2023 9:53 utc | 275

Our source reports that Zelensky/Ermak gave instructions to the head of the SBU, Malyuk, to monitor the heads of the anti-corruption agencies of Ukraine (all those who work for the Western lobby).
They will try to discredit many people and set them up. Daddies are already gathering for many. They infiltrated their agents. This is the result, no one knows.This is carried out under the sign “secret”, reporting only to the president.
Zaruba is intensifying, everyone now cares about the internal case, and the war is becoming just a “picture and scare” for society. Zelensky understands that the West wants to softly drain him. Vladimir Aleksandrovich also knows that almost the entire Ukrainian elite knows this, and they can stop listening and start playing their own game.

https://t.me/legitimniy/16244

Posted by: Down South | Sep 13 2023 9:53 utc | 276

“Once again a massive media attack on Zelensky forcing him to escalate. If you guys think NATO is out of gear or can’t take out Russia in a fight your crazy. This war is just getting started and Z isn’t in charge”
Try getting an artillery shell factory built in Brampton. It’s going to take years getting past the environmental and planning hoops … then even with an accelerated schedule it’s going to take 18 months to build … then the ministry of labour gets involved in the training and safe manufacturing procedures … you’ll be lucky to get a shell produced in five years.
Now remember back to February 2022 when just before the tanks rolled into Ukraine the Russians sent a huge trade delegation to China and signed a bunch of deals around “modernization” and networking of Russian factories. How long do you think it takes the Chinese to build an ammunition plant?
This is what NATO and the west is really up against. Russia isn’t isolated … they are allied with the Chinese, Iranians and North koreans … they have more people than us including an order of magnitude more engineers and STEM workers, better manufacturing resources than we do, more natural resources than we do and less red tape to get things done.
NATO’s plan to defeat Russia in Ukraine hinged on sanctions crippling Russia economically … it didn’t work. Russia was supposed to be unable to build missiles or replace tanks and artillery, Russian people were supposed to be deprived and rebellious by now … sanctions were key … sanctions failed.
You can argue that NATO can attack Russia with stealth aircraft but even if successful what can Russia do in retalliation? Look at the combat radius of F-35’s … then look at the range and launch points of Russian missiles.

Posted by: HB_Norica | Sep 13 2023 10:20 utc | 277

“Once again a massive media attack on Zelensky forcing him to escalate. If you guys think NATO is out of gear or can’t take out Russia in a fight your crazy. This war is just getting started and Z isn’t in charge”
Try getting an artillery shell factory built in Brampton. It’s going to take years getting past the environmental and planning hoops … then even with an accelerated schedule it’s going to take 18 months to build … then the ministry of labour gets involved in the training and safe manufacturing procedures … you’ll be lucky to get a shell produced in five years.
Now remember back to February 2022 when just before the tanks rolled into Ukraine the Russians sent a huge trade delegation to China and signed a bunch of deals around “modernization” and networking of Russian factories. How long do you think it takes the Chinese to build an ammunition plant?
This is what NATO and the west is really up against. Russia isn’t isolated … they are allied with the Chinese, Iranians and North koreans … they have more people than us including an order of magnitude more engineers and STEM workers, better manufacturing resources than we do, more natural resources than we do and less red tape to get things done.
NATO’s plan to defeat Russia in Ukraine hinged on sanctions crippling Russia economically … it didn’t work. Russia was supposed to be unable to build missiles or replace tanks and artillery, Russian people were supposed to be deprived and rebellious by now … sanctions were key … sanctions failed.
You can argue that NATO can attack Russia with stealth aircraft but even if successful what can Russia do in retalliation? Look at the combat radius of F-35’s … then look at the range and launch points of Russian missiles.

Posted by: HB_Norica | Sep 13 2023 10:20 utc | 278

Posted by: Down South | Sep 13 2023 8:37 utc | 136
Our source in the OP says
First, unfortunately, as a result of the missile strike, 11 people were killed – factory workers and the military. 31 people, according to the latest data, were injured.
Secondly, the missiles completely destroyed two of our vessels – the large landing ship Minsk and the submarine Rostov-on-Don. Both vessels that were here for repair are not subject to restoration. In addition, two more vessels have been damaged at the Sevmorzavod, and it may be possible to restore them.
Thirdly, according to updated data, eight enemy missiles and two naval drones were fired at Sevastopol. The drones were destroyed, and only two of the missiles were shot down, so the damage from the impact is so serious.
Awaiting satellite photos…
Whatever, all the Storm Shadows and SU-24’s didn’t get destroyed in that strike a week or so ago. There was an interesting comment by a US general that Ukrainian aircraft rarely land at the same location they took off from. They are ‘self-shuttling’.
A week or two ago Ukraine destroyed part of the air defenses in Crimea. Then they raided those oil/gas platforms. This is follow up that to those earlier operations.
This is the result of a ‘slow and steady’ SMO.

Posted by: Edward | Sep 13 2023 10:33 utc | 279

Posted by: Down South | Sep 13 2023 8:37 utc | 136
Our source in the OP says
First, unfortunately, as a result of the missile strike, 11 people were killed – factory workers and the military. 31 people, according to the latest data, were injured.
Secondly, the missiles completely destroyed two of our vessels – the large landing ship Minsk and the submarine Rostov-on-Don. Both vessels that were here for repair are not subject to restoration. In addition, two more vessels have been damaged at the Sevmorzavod, and it may be possible to restore them.
Thirdly, according to updated data, eight enemy missiles and two naval drones were fired at Sevastopol. The drones were destroyed, and only two of the missiles were shot down, so the damage from the impact is so serious.
Awaiting satellite photos…
Whatever, all the Storm Shadows and SU-24’s didn’t get destroyed in that strike a week or so ago. There was an interesting comment by a US general that Ukrainian aircraft rarely land at the same location they took off from. They are ‘self-shuttling’.
A week or two ago Ukraine destroyed part of the air defenses in Crimea. Then they raided those oil/gas platforms. This is follow up that to those earlier operations.
This is the result of a ‘slow and steady’ SMO.

Posted by: Edward | Sep 13 2023 10:33 utc | 280

I am attacked here and called “a troll” if I transmit concerning news coming from Dima. We can say what we want about Dima but there is not better at this moment. Only maybe, Jacob Dreizen has realistic view like Dima.
But I think I am just realistic.
If we repeat how “Ukraine is defeated” it will not help. We see a serious war coming and The West would happily escalate this conflict.
Ukrainian army is still very strong. Soon long range missiles shall be acquired and Ukraine shall start with terror attacks. It has still enough mighty army to switch to defense mode + long range attacks. The West can provide enough long range missiles.
For the West this is an ideologically essential conflict. There is an inherent hate against Russians (and even all Slavs) in EU and EU is able to sacrifice everything to destroy Russia and grab her resources.

Posted by: simplex | Sep 13 2023 10:37 utc | 281

I am attacked here and called “a troll” if I transmit concerning news coming from Dima. We can say what we want about Dima but there is not better at this moment. Only maybe, Jacob Dreizen has realistic view like Dima.
But I think I am just realistic.
If we repeat how “Ukraine is defeated” it will not help. We see a serious war coming and The West would happily escalate this conflict.
Ukrainian army is still very strong. Soon long range missiles shall be acquired and Ukraine shall start with terror attacks. It has still enough mighty army to switch to defense mode + long range attacks. The West can provide enough long range missiles.
For the West this is an ideologically essential conflict. There is an inherent hate against Russians (and even all Slavs) in EU and EU is able to sacrifice everything to destroy Russia and grab her resources.

Posted by: simplex | Sep 13 2023 10:37 utc | 282

Posted by: simplex | Sep 13 2023 10:37 utc | 143
Are you suggesting that Russia does not have the military power to reply to such escalation – because actually it does.

Posted by: Night Tripper | Sep 13 2023 10:48 utc | 283

Posted by: simplex | Sep 13 2023 10:37 utc | 143
Are you suggesting that Russia does not have the military power to reply to such escalation – because actually it does.

Posted by: Night Tripper | Sep 13 2023 10:48 utc | 284

I think Russia should have used nuclear weapons long ago.
Nobody in The West is afraid of Russia.
The Western mind is such that it understands only fear.
“If I am not afraid of you I will kill you and loot you”.
The whole colonial quest and the contemporary EU is based on this simple principle.

Posted by: simplex | Sep 13 2023 10:49 utc | 285

I think Russia should have used nuclear weapons long ago.
Nobody in The West is afraid of Russia.
The Western mind is such that it understands only fear.
“If I am not afraid of you I will kill you and loot you”.
The whole colonial quest and the contemporary EU is based on this simple principle.

Posted by: simplex | Sep 13 2023 10:49 utc | 286

Posted by: Edward | Sep 13 2023 10:33 utc | 142
They have a handful of Su-24 left. It isn’t worth the effort to use huge amount of resources for a long time to track down individual aircraft and use expensive missiles to try to catch them on the ground individually, especially in a country sized of Ukraine. EVEN if there is a risk they can launch a missile.
They rarely make any sort of appearance supporting AFU front lines. Long range missiles make it possible to use even a few aircraft to make strikes with relatively low chance of losing the aircraft. They are pretty much neutered and too few in ability to support ground operations, which after all is what really matters.
The rig in the Black Sea are abandoned and completely irrelevant except as PR stunts.
Victoria Nuland just said a few days ago that they are using Ukraine to strike Russian valuable assets. The submarine is a valuable asset. I’d assume this is the strike Victoria Nuland was referring to.
What should they do? Blow up Norfolk or Portland naval shipyard? Or perhaps one in Britain? Or just, suck it up. Maybe there will be a cold dish of revenge waiting for Great Britain.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 13 2023 10:52 utc | 287

Posted by: Edward | Sep 13 2023 10:33 utc | 142
They have a handful of Su-24 left. It isn’t worth the effort to use huge amount of resources for a long time to track down individual aircraft and use expensive missiles to try to catch them on the ground individually, especially in a country sized of Ukraine. EVEN if there is a risk they can launch a missile.
They rarely make any sort of appearance supporting AFU front lines. Long range missiles make it possible to use even a few aircraft to make strikes with relatively low chance of losing the aircraft. They are pretty much neutered and too few in ability to support ground operations, which after all is what really matters.
The rig in the Black Sea are abandoned and completely irrelevant except as PR stunts.
Victoria Nuland just said a few days ago that they are using Ukraine to strike Russian valuable assets. The submarine is a valuable asset. I’d assume this is the strike Victoria Nuland was referring to.
What should they do? Blow up Norfolk or Portland naval shipyard? Or perhaps one in Britain? Or just, suck it up. Maybe there will be a cold dish of revenge waiting for Great Britain.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 13 2023 10:52 utc | 288

@unimperator | Sep 13 2023 10:52 utc | 146
If you see lies in the text don’t bother to respond. It’s either an automated comment or some retard from Ukr or click farms in India or somewhere. They’re always written like an explanation for first time readers on the topic. Then it gets indexed and presented as popular opinion by ais, a little vicious circle

Posted by: rk | Sep 13 2023 11:17 utc | 289

@unimperator | Sep 13 2023 10:52 utc | 146
If you see lies in the text don’t bother to respond. It’s either an automated comment or some retard from Ukr or click farms in India or somewhere. They’re always written like an explanation for first time readers on the topic. Then it gets indexed and presented as popular opinion by ais, a little vicious circle

Posted by: rk | Sep 13 2023 11:17 utc | 290

@simplex | Sep 13 2023 10:49 utc | 145

I think Russia should have used nuclear weapons long ago.

Well, that disqualifies you as a serious commenter. Nuclear weapons are reserved for the case of existential risk to the state.

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 13 2023 11:19 utc | 291

@simplex | Sep 13 2023 10:49 utc | 145

I think Russia should have used nuclear weapons long ago.

Well, that disqualifies you as a serious commenter. Nuclear weapons are reserved for the case of existential risk to the state.

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 13 2023 11:19 utc | 292

Norwegian: You’re right of course but looks like he’s not called “Simplex” for no reason.
Still surprised how many are obsessed by nuclear weapons.

Posted by: Konami | Sep 13 2023 11:25 utc | 293

Norwegian: You’re right of course but looks like he’s not called “Simplex” for no reason.
Still surprised how many are obsessed by nuclear weapons.

Posted by: Konami | Sep 13 2023 11:25 utc | 294

If the storm shadow missiles took out a ship and a submarine they’ve been an unqualified success from the pint of view of the UK – look for further escalation and missile deliveries going forward.
Why Russia insists on taking this conflict at such a leisurely pace – I’ll never know – why wouldn’t they have prioritised cutting off Ukrainian access to the Black Sea in the first month is another mystery.
These missiles were apparently launched over Nikolaev. It’s been 18+ months – why does Ukraine still hold Nikolaev to launch these sort of attacks on Crimea?!?

Posted by: Julian | Sep 13 2023 11:27 utc | 295

If the storm shadow missiles took out a ship and a submarine they’ve been an unqualified success from the pint of view of the UK – look for further escalation and missile deliveries going forward.
Why Russia insists on taking this conflict at such a leisurely pace – I’ll never know – why wouldn’t they have prioritised cutting off Ukrainian access to the Black Sea in the first month is another mystery.
These missiles were apparently launched over Nikolaev. It’s been 18+ months – why does Ukraine still hold Nikolaev to launch these sort of attacks on Crimea?!?

Posted by: Julian | Sep 13 2023 11:27 utc | 296

Posted by: Julian | Sep 13 2023 11:27 utc | 150
Because Ukraine decided unexpectedly to commit banzai style suicide charge with all of its population and it takes a while for that scenario to play out? It may take a few more years according to RU military analysts.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 13 2023 11:32 utc | 297

Posted by: Julian | Sep 13 2023 11:27 utc | 150
Because Ukraine decided unexpectedly to commit banzai style suicide charge with all of its population and it takes a while for that scenario to play out? It may take a few more years according to RU military analysts.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 13 2023 11:32 utc | 298

Posted by: simplex | Sep 13 2023 10:37 utc | 143
>>> I am attacked here and called “a troll” if I transmit concerning news coming from Dima.<<< Do not misrepresent what others say to cover your own ignorance. I suggested you might be a troll because your posts are so daft. Do you not read other's posts? Every post you make, every query you raise, every concern you have, has already been discussed here ad nauseam. You have a such a narrow, short-sighted, one-dimensional view of this conflict. >>> Soon long range missiles shall be acquired and Ukraine shall start with terror attacks. <<< There will always be damage to both sides in a war. You seem to expect Russia to sustain no damage and to have a 100% shoot down ratio. Shit happens, but Ukraine will soon be cooked. Russia has ways to reduce the threats. >>>[Ukraine] has still enough mighty army to switch to defense mode + long range attacks.<<< You are either joking, deluded, ignorant of the actual facts, or just plain trolling. >>> The EU is able to sacrifice everything to destroy Russia and grab her resources.<<< More fantasy. Total melodrama. Do you watch anything other than Dima. Ffs, go catch up on a bit of Col Douglass McGregor, a retired US battle commander, war historian and author. Have you not heard that Russia is barely using its offensive forces. Russia is trying NOT TO ESCALATE, contrary to the dangerous gung-ho approach you and some others advocate. Russia is NOT trying to advance to the Dneiper (yet). Russia is missiling all over Ukraine about 100 per day. Finally, I wonder if you might not be a PR driver for Dima's channel. It's the only news you post ... Dima says ... Dima says. Is he paying you for traffic?

Posted by: SCCC | Sep 13 2023 11:38 utc | 299

Posted by: simplex | Sep 13 2023 10:37 utc | 143
>>> I am attacked here and called “a troll” if I transmit concerning news coming from Dima.<<< Do not misrepresent what others say to cover your own ignorance. I suggested you might be a troll because your posts are so daft. Do you not read other's posts? Every post you make, every query you raise, every concern you have, has already been discussed here ad nauseam. You have a such a narrow, short-sighted, one-dimensional view of this conflict. >>> Soon long range missiles shall be acquired and Ukraine shall start with terror attacks. <<< There will always be damage to both sides in a war. You seem to expect Russia to sustain no damage and to have a 100% shoot down ratio. Shit happens, but Ukraine will soon be cooked. Russia has ways to reduce the threats. >>>[Ukraine] has still enough mighty army to switch to defense mode + long range attacks.<<< You are either joking, deluded, ignorant of the actual facts, or just plain trolling. >>> The EU is able to sacrifice everything to destroy Russia and grab her resources.<<< More fantasy. Total melodrama. Do you watch anything other than Dima. Ffs, go catch up on a bit of Col Douglass McGregor, a retired US battle commander, war historian and author. Have you not heard that Russia is barely using its offensive forces. Russia is trying NOT TO ESCALATE, contrary to the dangerous gung-ho approach you and some others advocate. Russia is NOT trying to advance to the Dneiper (yet). Russia is missiling all over Ukraine about 100 per day. Finally, I wonder if you might not be a PR driver for Dima's channel. It's the only news you post ... Dima says ... Dima says. Is he paying you for traffic?

Posted by: SCCC | Sep 13 2023 11:38 utc | 300