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September 8, 2023
Ukraine Open Thread 2023-212


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"My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away."

Ozymandias. By Percy Bysshe Shelley.

Idea Kit Klarenberg.

Only for news & views directly related to the Ukraine conflict.

The current open thread for other issues is here.

Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.

Comments

“Taking bets that there was a team to hide/remove the Azov and Red/Black OUN flags for the photo shoot.”
Posted by: daffyDuct | Sep 8 2023 23:21 utc | 201
Probably some Polish flags had to be removed too. Maybe even a US flag or two.

Posted by: dh | Sep 8 2023 23:29 utc | 401

“Taking bets that there was a team to hide/remove the Azov and Red/Black OUN flags for the photo shoot.”
Posted by: daffyDuct | Sep 8 2023 23:21 utc | 201
Probably some Polish flags had to be removed too. Maybe even a US flag or two.

Posted by: dh | Sep 8 2023 23:29 utc | 402

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Sep 8 2023 17:23 utc | 119
Why are you even bothering to read Inkanazi 1969’s drivel, let alone reply? The nazi’s not interested in facts or reality, so you won’t convince it.
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Lol. Cos they browse the forum looking for those they can most easily pick a condescending argument with … JUST LIKE YOU. LOL. They rarely venture against the knowledgeable, sensible ones. They pick the stupid fruits. What matters most to some posters around here is that they are seen and heard and “respected” as long time pundits. But also, it’s hard not to react to ignorant trolls, isn’t it? You often do it too.

Posted by: SCCC | Sep 8 2023 23:30 utc | 403

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Sep 8 2023 17:23 utc | 119
Why are you even bothering to read Inkanazi 1969’s drivel, let alone reply? The nazi’s not interested in facts or reality, so you won’t convince it.
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Lol. Cos they browse the forum looking for those they can most easily pick a condescending argument with … JUST LIKE YOU. LOL. They rarely venture against the knowledgeable, sensible ones. They pick the stupid fruits. What matters most to some posters around here is that they are seen and heard and “respected” as long time pundits. But also, it’s hard not to react to ignorant trolls, isn’t it? You often do it too.

Posted by: SCCC | Sep 8 2023 23:30 utc | 404

Down South @ 12
He acknowledges that US and Ukrainian officials have failed to appreciate the depth of Russia’s defenses and how difficult it will be for Ukraine to ‘break through’ it with armored vehicles. At the same time, the analyst believes that most of the fortifications of the Russian forces are still untouched.
Nobody at the Pentagram knows how to read satellite photos? What a bunch of horse dung

Posted by: circumspect | Sep 8 2023 23:36 utc | 405

Down South @ 12
He acknowledges that US and Ukrainian officials have failed to appreciate the depth of Russia’s defenses and how difficult it will be for Ukraine to ‘break through’ it with armored vehicles. At the same time, the analyst believes that most of the fortifications of the Russian forces are still untouched.
Nobody at the Pentagram knows how to read satellite photos? What a bunch of horse dung

Posted by: circumspect | Sep 8 2023 23:36 utc | 406

Posted by: Ass Bongle
Lol. Is that you, shadowbanned?

Posted by: SCCC | Sep 8 2023 23:38 utc | 407

Posted by: Ass Bongle
Lol. Is that you, shadowbanned?

Posted by: SCCC | Sep 8 2023 23:38 utc | 408

The photo used at the top of this article by B has been doctored. Ive seen three different videos of Blinkens visit to the cemetary and the abundance of red and black right sector flags is noticable. I’d go as far as say 50% of flags were nazi. But theyve been doctored out of the photo here.

Posted by: HERMIUS | Sep 8 2023 23:39 utc | 409

The photo used at the top of this article by B has been doctored. Ive seen three different videos of Blinkens visit to the cemetary and the abundance of red and black right sector flags is noticable. I’d go as far as say 50% of flags were nazi. But theyve been doctored out of the photo here.

Posted by: HERMIUS | Sep 8 2023 23:39 utc | 410

Comandante | Sep 8 2023 19:41 utc | 146 :
If someone with a less appeasing approach than Putin takes control of Russia, Armenia has finally dug its own grave.
Not that subscription to NATO “values” and hosting US-imperial forces hasn’t ensured Armenia’s effective demise anyway.

Posted by: Cynic | Sep 8 2023 23:54 utc | 411

Comandante | Sep 8 2023 19:41 utc | 146 :
If someone with a less appeasing approach than Putin takes control of Russia, Armenia has finally dug its own grave.
Not that subscription to NATO “values” and hosting US-imperial forces hasn’t ensured Armenia’s effective demise anyway.

Posted by: Cynic | Sep 8 2023 23:54 utc | 412

https://t.me/thecoppermountain/5567
Time for Jihadi Julian to just admit he’s been backing the wrong side all along. Of course he won’t because his salary depends on it.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Sep 8 2023 23:56 utc | 413

https://t.me/thecoppermountain/5567
Time for Jihadi Julian to just admit he’s been backing the wrong side all along. Of course he won’t because his salary depends on it.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Sep 8 2023 23:56 utc | 414

Remember when the Babylon Bee published satire and not factual articles like this?
https://babylonbee.com/news/adam-yensers-article

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Sep 8 2023 23:57 utc | 415

Remember when the Babylon Bee published satire and not factual articles like this?
https://babylonbee.com/news/adam-yensers-article

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Sep 8 2023 23:57 utc | 416

Comment from a Topcor article.
“To win you need a political step. We need a law.
What will the Law of the Russian Federation provide, which will stipulate that the entire territory of Ukraine, within the borders of 1975, is an integral part of Russia.
1. A political move that will lead to the stabilization of actions in Ukraine.
2. All actions of the leadership of the Russian Federation and the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation will comply with the Law of the Russian Federation.
3. Assigning the status of the territory of Ukraine, which is the territory of Russia, will allow the NVO to be transferred to the counter-terrorist operation (CTO), i.e. All military operations will be carried out in accordance with the law “On countering terrorism” dated 06.03.2006 N 35-FZ.
4. The law will make it impossible for Ukraine and NATO countries to call the Russian Federation an aggressor.
5. The law will deprive NATO of a goal in Ukraine and he will have to develop a new concept for the Russian Federation.
6. The law will not allow Ukraine to quickly join NATO. The law will not allow NATO to intervene, to introduce troops from Poland, Romania, Hungary into the territory of Ukraine, and the annexation of Ukraine by these countries will automatically disappear. The law will not allow to conclude a confederal treaty between Ukraine and Poland, which is part of NATO, and Ukraine will not be able to become a member of NATO. The law will not allow the United States to blackmail and use nuclear weapons in Ukraine.
7. The supply of weapons to separatist terrorists in Ukraine will be qualified as interference in the internal affairs of the Russian Federation.
8. In the presence of the Law, the military operation conducted by Russia in Ukraine is the liberation of the territory of Russia occupied by separatists, the restoration of the territorial integrity of Russia, the reunification of peoples, the inclusion of the economy, population, territory of Ukraine in the sphere of economic activity of Russia.
9. The law will give certainty about the future in Ukraine to citizens of the Russian Federation and Ukraine. Citizens living on the territory of Ukraine will not have to be afraid in the future for themselves, for persecution by the fascist regime.
10. The law will set the goal. A strategy will be formed. Tactics were developed, tasks and deadlines were set, and the enemy was named.
It is also necessary for those in power to have a desire to win.”

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 8 2023 23:58 utc | 417

Comment from a Topcor article.
“To win you need a political step. We need a law.
What will the Law of the Russian Federation provide, which will stipulate that the entire territory of Ukraine, within the borders of 1975, is an integral part of Russia.
1. A political move that will lead to the stabilization of actions in Ukraine.
2. All actions of the leadership of the Russian Federation and the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation will comply with the Law of the Russian Federation.
3. Assigning the status of the territory of Ukraine, which is the territory of Russia, will allow the NVO to be transferred to the counter-terrorist operation (CTO), i.e. All military operations will be carried out in accordance with the law “On countering terrorism” dated 06.03.2006 N 35-FZ.
4. The law will make it impossible for Ukraine and NATO countries to call the Russian Federation an aggressor.
5. The law will deprive NATO of a goal in Ukraine and he will have to develop a new concept for the Russian Federation.
6. The law will not allow Ukraine to quickly join NATO. The law will not allow NATO to intervene, to introduce troops from Poland, Romania, Hungary into the territory of Ukraine, and the annexation of Ukraine by these countries will automatically disappear. The law will not allow to conclude a confederal treaty between Ukraine and Poland, which is part of NATO, and Ukraine will not be able to become a member of NATO. The law will not allow the United States to blackmail and use nuclear weapons in Ukraine.
7. The supply of weapons to separatist terrorists in Ukraine will be qualified as interference in the internal affairs of the Russian Federation.
8. In the presence of the Law, the military operation conducted by Russia in Ukraine is the liberation of the territory of Russia occupied by separatists, the restoration of the territorial integrity of Russia, the reunification of peoples, the inclusion of the economy, population, territory of Ukraine in the sphere of economic activity of Russia.
9. The law will give certainty about the future in Ukraine to citizens of the Russian Federation and Ukraine. Citizens living on the territory of Ukraine will not have to be afraid in the future for themselves, for persecution by the fascist regime.
10. The law will set the goal. A strategy will be formed. Tactics were developed, tasks and deadlines were set, and the enemy was named.
It is also necessary for those in power to have a desire to win.”

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 8 2023 23:58 utc | 418

“…Look inside yourself, then go and ask your parents about things in you which have remained the same since your childhood, and they will surely put their finger on it…” SCCC@200
And how would that prove the existence of inherited behavioural traits as opposed to behaviours learned?

Posted by: bevin | Sep 8 2023 23:58 utc | 419

“…Look inside yourself, then go and ask your parents about things in you which have remained the same since your childhood, and they will surely put their finger on it…” SCCC@200
And how would that prove the existence of inherited behavioural traits as opposed to behaviours learned?

Posted by: bevin | Sep 8 2023 23:58 utc | 420

Re Armenia:
Someone should tell Pashinyan that Putin has excellent relations with Ilham Aliyev and Armenia would be done for of Russia switches sides.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Sep 9 2023 0:01 utc | 421

Re Armenia:
Someone should tell Pashinyan that Putin has excellent relations with Ilham Aliyev and Armenia would be done for of Russia switches sides.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Sep 9 2023 0:01 utc | 422

Posted by: SCCC | Sep 8 2023 23:16 utc | 200
Am slowly enjoying your dark-mountain manifesto you linked a couple of days back. Thxs.

Posted by: scorpion | Sep 9 2023 0:02 utc | 423

Posted by: SCCC | Sep 8 2023 23:16 utc | 200
Am slowly enjoying your dark-mountain manifesto you linked a couple of days back. Thxs.

Posted by: scorpion | Sep 9 2023 0:02 utc | 424

@unimperator 211

“It is also necessary for those in power to have a desire to win.”


This is the most and indeed only important point.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Sep 9 2023 0:04 utc | 425

@unimperator 211

“It is also necessary for those in power to have a desire to win.”


This is the most and indeed only important point.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Sep 9 2023 0:04 utc | 426

“If you seriously think that everything about human nature is changeable, then you are a fantasist dreamer. Look inside yourself, then go and ask your parents about things in you which have remained the same since your childhood, and they will surely put their finger on it. Lol.”
Posted by: SCCC | Sep 8 2023 23:16 utc | 200
Interesting topic…if somewhat OT. I do wonder how much of I make-up is genetic and how much is learned. Unfortunately both my parents are dead and I never got the chance to ask them.

Posted by: dh | Sep 9 2023 0:07 utc | 427

“If you seriously think that everything about human nature is changeable, then you are a fantasist dreamer. Look inside yourself, then go and ask your parents about things in you which have remained the same since your childhood, and they will surely put their finger on it. Lol.”
Posted by: SCCC | Sep 8 2023 23:16 utc | 200
Interesting topic…if somewhat OT. I do wonder how much of I make-up is genetic and how much is learned. Unfortunately both my parents are dead and I never got the chance to ask them.

Posted by: dh | Sep 9 2023 0:07 utc | 428

Posted by: dh | Sep 9 2023 0:07 utc | 216
“I” was supposed to be “my” but it works OK.

Posted by: dh | Sep 9 2023 0:10 utc | 429

Posted by: dh | Sep 9 2023 0:07 utc | 216
“I” was supposed to be “my” but it works OK.

Posted by: dh | Sep 9 2023 0:10 utc | 430

@TheNorthernChef #198
If you think the evidence for Babi Yar is weak, then you have no bullshit antennae to speak of.

Posted by: S | Sep 9 2023 0:19 utc | 431

@TheNorthernChef #198
If you think the evidence for Babi Yar is weak, then you have no bullshit antennae to speak of.

Posted by: S | Sep 9 2023 0:19 utc | 432

I get the sense that the G20 event is not going quite as planned. Putin and XI seem to be getting more mileage out of it by not attending.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-66737664

Posted by: dh | Sep 9 2023 0:28 utc | 433

I get the sense that the G20 event is not going quite as planned. Putin and XI seem to be getting more mileage out of it by not attending.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-66737664

Posted by: dh | Sep 9 2023 0:28 utc | 434

Serious request for a deeper explanation.
There are mutterings here and elsewhere about weakening Ukrainian civilian support for Kiev. I’ve seen polls saying Z’s popularity is now down to only 50%.
But,
– given that the country is still under matial law;
– given that the US ***would not like*** a popular uprising not of its own management;
– given that Russia would surreptitiously support the hell out of an uprising against Kiev;
– given that such an uprising might thwart Poland’s greedy aims;
– given that such an uprising might cause guns against guns in the streets;
… how the hell could the Ukrainian people ever get back control of their own country, even if support for Zelensky waned to 0%? I suspect the US would “negotiate for peace” before it could actually happen.
Thus the only chance is a total Russian win and capitulation by Kiev and Washington. In other words, it will be Moscow who liberates all of Ukraine ***politically***, ironically through their military defeat.

Posted by: SCCC | Sep 9 2023 0:36 utc | 435

Serious request for a deeper explanation.
There are mutterings here and elsewhere about weakening Ukrainian civilian support for Kiev. I’ve seen polls saying Z’s popularity is now down to only 50%.
But,
– given that the country is still under matial law;
– given that the US ***would not like*** a popular uprising not of its own management;
– given that Russia would surreptitiously support the hell out of an uprising against Kiev;
– given that such an uprising might thwart Poland’s greedy aims;
– given that such an uprising might cause guns against guns in the streets;
… how the hell could the Ukrainian people ever get back control of their own country, even if support for Zelensky waned to 0%? I suspect the US would “negotiate for peace” before it could actually happen.
Thus the only chance is a total Russian win and capitulation by Kiev and Washington. In other words, it will be Moscow who liberates all of Ukraine ***politically***, ironically through their military defeat.

Posted by: SCCC | Sep 9 2023 0:36 utc | 436

It is interesting how we see the Western empire of the United States disintegrate and fall before our eyes.
Tony Blinken who has been a creature of the neocon establishment for so many years is strutting around a Ukrainian cemetery full of dead Ukrainians without the least bit of remorse for the tens of thousands or most likely hundreds of thousands dead in this conflict. Look at the body language people , these are the stone cold killers, this is the leadership of the United States.
Putin doesn’t have to do much, such moral degeneracy eventually collapses in on itself as there are no pillars of character holding it up. Many laugh and criticize Putin for his legalese and regard for Ukrainian human life but is this what you want him to become ? A stone faced ghoul who doesn’t bat an eye and the seas of dead caused in no small part by his decisions.
These are the people who lead the United States?

Posted by: foxandhound48 | Sep 9 2023 0:39 utc | 437

It is interesting how we see the Western empire of the United States disintegrate and fall before our eyes.
Tony Blinken who has been a creature of the neocon establishment for so many years is strutting around a Ukrainian cemetery full of dead Ukrainians without the least bit of remorse for the tens of thousands or most likely hundreds of thousands dead in this conflict. Look at the body language people , these are the stone cold killers, this is the leadership of the United States.
Putin doesn’t have to do much, such moral degeneracy eventually collapses in on itself as there are no pillars of character holding it up. Many laugh and criticize Putin for his legalese and regard for Ukrainian human life but is this what you want him to become ? A stone faced ghoul who doesn’t bat an eye and the seas of dead caused in no small part by his decisions.
These are the people who lead the United States?

Posted by: foxandhound48 | Sep 9 2023 0:39 utc | 438

Dr Berry Proper
And how would that prove the existence of inherited behavioural traits as opposed to behaviours learned?
Posted by: bevin | Sep 8 2023 23:58 utc | 212
Interesting topic…if somewhat OT. I do wonder how much of I make-up is genetic and how much is learned. Unfortunately both my parents are dead and I never got the chance to ask them.
Posted by: dh | Sep 9 2023 0:07 utc | 216
One way of getting to nature-nurture is to study identical twins that got separated. They don’t want to admit to any role for heredity, so these sorts of studies are discouraged or go unreported.
Google: identical twins separated at birth study — will produce some info if you are interested.

Posted by: Jmaas | Sep 9 2023 0:41 utc | 439

Dr Berry Proper
And how would that prove the existence of inherited behavioural traits as opposed to behaviours learned?
Posted by: bevin | Sep 8 2023 23:58 utc | 212
Interesting topic…if somewhat OT. I do wonder how much of I make-up is genetic and how much is learned. Unfortunately both my parents are dead and I never got the chance to ask them.
Posted by: dh | Sep 9 2023 0:07 utc | 216
One way of getting to nature-nurture is to study identical twins that got separated. They don’t want to admit to any role for heredity, so these sorts of studies are discouraged or go unreported.
Google: identical twins separated at birth study — will produce some info if you are interested.

Posted by: Jmaas | Sep 9 2023 0:41 utc | 440

Posted by: S | Sep 9 2023 0:19 utc | 218
Ditto for the massacres in Donbass and indeed throughout the entire occupied Soviet territory. The fellow is presumably a co-ideoogue of Chris Polhaus.

Posted by: Constantine | Sep 9 2023 0:41 utc | 441

Posted by: S | Sep 9 2023 0:19 utc | 218
Ditto for the massacres in Donbass and indeed throughout the entire occupied Soviet territory. The fellow is presumably a co-ideoogue of Chris Polhaus.

Posted by: Constantine | Sep 9 2023 0:41 utc | 442

bevin | Sep 8 2023 23:58 utc | 212
Quick reply cos we are OT.
Good point. It wouldn’t perfectly, but it shows how ***individuals*** have many traits (be they nature or nurture) which are deeply ingrained beyond flexibility. So-called “human nature” is a psycho-genetic-anthropological issue far bigger than this forum!!!

Posted by: SCCC | Sep 9 2023 0:43 utc | 443

bevin | Sep 8 2023 23:58 utc | 212
Quick reply cos we are OT.
Good point. It wouldn’t perfectly, but it shows how ***individuals*** have many traits (be they nature or nurture) which are deeply ingrained beyond flexibility. So-called “human nature” is a psycho-genetic-anthropological issue far bigger than this forum!!!

Posted by: SCCC | Sep 9 2023 0:43 utc | 444

Some videos for today.
A true hero: Russian serviceman with the call sign Casper saved his brothers-in-arms from a Kiev regime drone:
https://odysee.com/@SputnikInternational:c/7256245234:b
Russian T-80 tank pounds enemy position near Kupyansk:
https://rutube.ru/video/5e309a076184795e31964e899335c88a/
Russian marines mounted a naval anti-aircraft gun on an armored vehicle to fire on enemy positions near Ugledar (in the southern DPR):
https://rutube.ru/video/9234687d6d3541fd26e729abffe65080/
Russian snipers in action, north of Artemovsk:
https://rutube.ru/video/a58369f59a268a59b863e6815dcb88f8/

Posted by: Nate | Sep 9 2023 0:46 utc | 445

Some videos for today.
A true hero: Russian serviceman with the call sign Casper saved his brothers-in-arms from a Kiev regime drone:
https://odysee.com/@SputnikInternational:c/7256245234:b
Russian T-80 tank pounds enemy position near Kupyansk:
https://rutube.ru/video/5e309a076184795e31964e899335c88a/
Russian marines mounted a naval anti-aircraft gun on an armored vehicle to fire on enemy positions near Ugledar (in the southern DPR):
https://rutube.ru/video/9234687d6d3541fd26e729abffe65080/
Russian snipers in action, north of Artemovsk:
https://rutube.ru/video/a58369f59a268a59b863e6815dcb88f8/

Posted by: Nate | Sep 9 2023 0:46 utc | 446

@ Roger
Many non-Jews are Zionists, especially in the US Christian communities. But also many Jews are Zionists and they consider Zionism completely compatible with their Jewish faith and are fully accepted by the Synagogues and the Jewish faith hierarchy. So you are saying that when they are finally judged the Zionists will be deemed to be heretics and damned to hell for eternity?
Posted by: Roger | Sep 8 2023 22:21 utc | 190
No, many zionists pretend that zionism, a racist, fascist and antisemite ideology is compatible with Judaism, because following a racist, fascist and antisemite ideology is unscrupulous. Pretending to be Jewish gets lots of guns and bombs from American Caesar as does pretending that Wahabbism is real Islam, rather than a sad lonely pseudo-Islamic pose, which gets lots of guns and bombs from American Caesar. None of this had anything to do with superstitious mumbo-jumbo, it has everything to do with secular, utilitarian calculation. You mention Jewish faith, synagogues etc but compare what zionists purport with the Church of England, a secular, atheist pretend religion which serves to legitimise another secular state…. When there is a discrepancy between the talk and the walk, trust the walk.

Posted by: Squeeth | Sep 9 2023 1:01 utc | 447

@ Roger
Many non-Jews are Zionists, especially in the US Christian communities. But also many Jews are Zionists and they consider Zionism completely compatible with their Jewish faith and are fully accepted by the Synagogues and the Jewish faith hierarchy. So you are saying that when they are finally judged the Zionists will be deemed to be heretics and damned to hell for eternity?
Posted by: Roger | Sep 8 2023 22:21 utc | 190
No, many zionists pretend that zionism, a racist, fascist and antisemite ideology is compatible with Judaism, because following a racist, fascist and antisemite ideology is unscrupulous. Pretending to be Jewish gets lots of guns and bombs from American Caesar as does pretending that Wahabbism is real Islam, rather than a sad lonely pseudo-Islamic pose, which gets lots of guns and bombs from American Caesar. None of this had anything to do with superstitious mumbo-jumbo, it has everything to do with secular, utilitarian calculation. You mention Jewish faith, synagogues etc but compare what zionists purport with the Church of England, a secular, atheist pretend religion which serves to legitimise another secular state…. When there is a discrepancy between the talk and the walk, trust the walk.

Posted by: Squeeth | Sep 9 2023 1:01 utc | 448

@Posted by: Squeeth | Sep 9 2023 1:01 utc | 226
Well put

Posted by: Roger | Sep 9 2023 1:06 utc | 449

@Posted by: Squeeth | Sep 9 2023 1:01 utc | 226
Well put

Posted by: Roger | Sep 9 2023 1:06 utc | 450

British man found dead in Ukraine (Sky News, September 8, 2023)

A British man has been found dead in Ukraine, the Foreign Office has confirmed to Sky News.
Jordan Chadwick, 31, originally from Burnley in Lancashire, had previously served as a Scots guard in the British Army from 2011 to 2015.
His mother, Brenda Chadwick, expressed her family’s profound sadness over the loss of her son – known as Joe – in an interview with the BBC.
It reported that Mr Chadwick went to fight for the International Legion in Ukraine and was found dead in a body of water with his hands bound behind his back.
“We are providing assistance to the family of a British man who died in Ukraine and are in contact with the local authorities,” a Foreign Office spokesperson told Sky News.

Former Scots Guard found dead in Ukraine with hands tied behind back (Daily Record, John-Paul Clark, September 8, 2023)

A former Scots Guard has been found dead in Ukraine with his hands tied behind his back.
Jordan Chadwick, 31, joined the Ukrainian Army’s International Legion last year.
His family learned of his tragic death on June 26 and The Ukrainian International Army organised his repatriation on August 7.
An inquest to establish the cause of his death will take place in February.

That’s a… timely inquest.

Posted by: S | Sep 9 2023 1:20 utc | 451

British man found dead in Ukraine (Sky News, September 8, 2023)

A British man has been found dead in Ukraine, the Foreign Office has confirmed to Sky News.
Jordan Chadwick, 31, originally from Burnley in Lancashire, had previously served as a Scots guard in the British Army from 2011 to 2015.
His mother, Brenda Chadwick, expressed her family’s profound sadness over the loss of her son – known as Joe – in an interview with the BBC.
It reported that Mr Chadwick went to fight for the International Legion in Ukraine and was found dead in a body of water with his hands bound behind his back.
“We are providing assistance to the family of a British man who died in Ukraine and are in contact with the local authorities,” a Foreign Office spokesperson told Sky News.

Former Scots Guard found dead in Ukraine with hands tied behind back (Daily Record, John-Paul Clark, September 8, 2023)

A former Scots Guard has been found dead in Ukraine with his hands tied behind his back.
Jordan Chadwick, 31, joined the Ukrainian Army’s International Legion last year.
His family learned of his tragic death on June 26 and The Ukrainian International Army organised his repatriation on August 7.
An inquest to establish the cause of his death will take place in February.

That’s a… timely inquest.

Posted by: S | Sep 9 2023 1:20 utc | 452

Vampire Six Telegram Channel Recaps Russian Strategy thus far in the SMO….
https://t.me/VampireSix/491
Now that the Ukrainian Zaporozhe Offensive seems to be firmly culminated, let’s discuss why the battle happened the way it did. The Stavka identified the land corridor to Crimea as key terrain before the war – the Russians likely launched a large operation in Ukraine rather than a more limited intervention in the Donbass due to the overriding need to secure the Zaporozhe Corridor and prevent Ukrainian forces occupying the Azov coast from trying to lever them out of Crimea using exactly the kind of interdiction tactics and long-range strikes on infrastructure and military facilities now being advocated for so strongly by NATO. The Russians, the Ukrainians, and NATO all know that the road to Ukrainian victory leads through Mariupol.
The Russian withdrawals from Kharkov and right-bank Kherson last year – and make no mistake, they were deliberate withdrawals – were conducted in order to ensure that corridor could be defended as strongly as possible for the battle to come. Their chaotic aftermath (and the operational sideshow in Bakhmut) also provided a priceless opportunity to entrench in relative calm over a period of months. This is a basic military principle from Clausewitz – be as strong as possible on the decisive point. Holding Kherson City and Izyum – or even Nikolaev and Kramatorsk – would be profoundly irrelevant if the Ukrainians had been allowed to cut the Zaporozhe Corridor. Absent enough troops to overrun eastern Ukraine in 2022 and foreclose a Ukrainian counteroffensive, retrenchment was ultimately the correct decision – and has largely been proven as such – regardless of any short term damage to Russian prestige.
When this battle is over, the Russians will have the means with which to win the war.

A good summary…
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 9 2023 1:33 utc | 453

Vampire Six Telegram Channel Recaps Russian Strategy thus far in the SMO….
https://t.me/VampireSix/491
Now that the Ukrainian Zaporozhe Offensive seems to be firmly culminated, let’s discuss why the battle happened the way it did. The Stavka identified the land corridor to Crimea as key terrain before the war – the Russians likely launched a large operation in Ukraine rather than a more limited intervention in the Donbass due to the overriding need to secure the Zaporozhe Corridor and prevent Ukrainian forces occupying the Azov coast from trying to lever them out of Crimea using exactly the kind of interdiction tactics and long-range strikes on infrastructure and military facilities now being advocated for so strongly by NATO. The Russians, the Ukrainians, and NATO all know that the road to Ukrainian victory leads through Mariupol.
The Russian withdrawals from Kharkov and right-bank Kherson last year – and make no mistake, they were deliberate withdrawals – were conducted in order to ensure that corridor could be defended as strongly as possible for the battle to come. Their chaotic aftermath (and the operational sideshow in Bakhmut) also provided a priceless opportunity to entrench in relative calm over a period of months. This is a basic military principle from Clausewitz – be as strong as possible on the decisive point. Holding Kherson City and Izyum – or even Nikolaev and Kramatorsk – would be profoundly irrelevant if the Ukrainians had been allowed to cut the Zaporozhe Corridor. Absent enough troops to overrun eastern Ukraine in 2022 and foreclose a Ukrainian counteroffensive, retrenchment was ultimately the correct decision – and has largely been proven as such – regardless of any short term damage to Russian prestige.
When this battle is over, the Russians will have the means with which to win the war.

A good summary…
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 9 2023 1:33 utc | 454

It is also necessary for those in power to have a desire to win.”
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 8 2023 23:58 utc | 211

I vote for extending the territory covered by your “Law” to the entirety of the FSU, and Finland.
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 9 2023 1:39 utc | 455

It is also necessary for those in power to have a desire to win.”
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 8 2023 23:58 utc | 211

I vote for extending the territory covered by your “Law” to the entirety of the FSU, and Finland.
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 9 2023 1:39 utc | 456

There are mutterings here and elsewhere about weakening Ukrainian civilian support for Kiev. I’ve seen polls saying Z’s popularity is now down to only 50%.
Posted by: SCCC | Sep 9 2023 0:36 utc | 220
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I think 50% is a bit high.
But,
1. Considering 20 to 25% of the pre 2014 Ukraine citizens have fled the country (to Russia or the EU), or now live in the four Oblast that voted to join the RF.
2. And considering that the Nazi government has been committing genocide by press-ganging Russian speaking men from the Eastern areas of Ukraine still under the control of Kiev, to the front lines to die.
3. And, considering that no reasonable honest poll could ever be conducted in Ukraine during this US proxy war with Ukraine because who the fuck is going to talk to a Western of Ukraine pollster about how they hate Zelensky and his slimy Nazi comrades under the present war conditions.
I suspect that 50% may be about right.

Posted by: Ed | Sep 9 2023 1:42 utc | 457

There are mutterings here and elsewhere about weakening Ukrainian civilian support for Kiev. I’ve seen polls saying Z’s popularity is now down to only 50%.
Posted by: SCCC | Sep 9 2023 0:36 utc | 220
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I think 50% is a bit high.
But,
1. Considering 20 to 25% of the pre 2014 Ukraine citizens have fled the country (to Russia or the EU), or now live in the four Oblast that voted to join the RF.
2. And considering that the Nazi government has been committing genocide by press-ganging Russian speaking men from the Eastern areas of Ukraine still under the control of Kiev, to the front lines to die.
3. And, considering that no reasonable honest poll could ever be conducted in Ukraine during this US proxy war with Ukraine because who the fuck is going to talk to a Western of Ukraine pollster about how they hate Zelensky and his slimy Nazi comrades under the present war conditions.
I suspect that 50% may be about right.

Posted by: Ed | Sep 9 2023 1:42 utc | 458

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 8 2023 21:09 utc | 173
The Deep State is a parasitical phenomenon. The only reform for the Deep State is the collapse of the host. Then a new host emerges, and the process starts again.
For every Victoria Nuland who leaves government “service,” another is ready to replace her. There is an endless supply of Vicky Nulands, I believe that because power abhors a vacuum, and any system of governance begs bureaucracy.
Some aspects of power are evergreen and persistent. We can no more cure human nature than we can banish darkness forever by lighting every corner of the Earth. As long as there are humans, there will be human nature. A nature that can be beautiful, inspiring, sublime, and positive. Human nature can also be jealous, greedy, violent, and self-absorbed.
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Lovely post. Some thoughts in response.
Human nature doesn’t change, or Nature in general, but conditions can change, along with social conditions, responses and movements.
Trees grown in contained biodomes grow bent or deformed; lacking wind to resist they are too weak to stand tall and straight.
Strong vibrant societies resist the unvirtuous parasites whose presence, as you say, is inevitable. But it is the weakness of the host which allows any parasite to prevail for the host is always the majority, the core culture.
Societies, like microbiomes, comprise both beneficial and pathogenic cultures, usually with an 80/20 ratio. Their underlying nature changes only very slowly, if at all, but the surface is never still, the present never fully understood, the future unknown. Organisms require a core gestalt and life force which for societies are orthodox, bedrock traditions connecting with timeless values, including sacred rituals, lest they become overwhelmed by surface change and devoured by parasites from within.
Right now they are in the ascendant and either the host will collapse, as you say, or find a way to starve or purge out that parasite. This can be effected indirectly: by the population simply restoring its own core 80/20 vigor, thus recovering natural immunity. Ideology-driven class struggle won’t achieve this, merely replacing one tyranny with another. Something wiser must be found.

Posted by: scorpion | Sep 9 2023 1:46 utc | 459

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 8 2023 21:09 utc | 173
The Deep State is a parasitical phenomenon. The only reform for the Deep State is the collapse of the host. Then a new host emerges, and the process starts again.
For every Victoria Nuland who leaves government “service,” another is ready to replace her. There is an endless supply of Vicky Nulands, I believe that because power abhors a vacuum, and any system of governance begs bureaucracy.
Some aspects of power are evergreen and persistent. We can no more cure human nature than we can banish darkness forever by lighting every corner of the Earth. As long as there are humans, there will be human nature. A nature that can be beautiful, inspiring, sublime, and positive. Human nature can also be jealous, greedy, violent, and self-absorbed.
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Lovely post. Some thoughts in response.
Human nature doesn’t change, or Nature in general, but conditions can change, along with social conditions, responses and movements.
Trees grown in contained biodomes grow bent or deformed; lacking wind to resist they are too weak to stand tall and straight.
Strong vibrant societies resist the unvirtuous parasites whose presence, as you say, is inevitable. But it is the weakness of the host which allows any parasite to prevail for the host is always the majority, the core culture.
Societies, like microbiomes, comprise both beneficial and pathogenic cultures, usually with an 80/20 ratio. Their underlying nature changes only very slowly, if at all, but the surface is never still, the present never fully understood, the future unknown. Organisms require a core gestalt and life force which for societies are orthodox, bedrock traditions connecting with timeless values, including sacred rituals, lest they become overwhelmed by surface change and devoured by parasites from within.
Right now they are in the ascendant and either the host will collapse, as you say, or find a way to starve or purge out that parasite. This can be effected indirectly: by the population simply restoring its own core 80/20 vigor, thus recovering natural immunity. Ideology-driven class struggle won’t achieve this, merely replacing one tyranny with another. Something wiser must be found.

Posted by: scorpion | Sep 9 2023 1:46 utc | 460

Posted by: Suresh | Sep 8 2023 20:45 utc | 167
Cannot agree more…. those places should eat Geraniums…
INDY
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Ah, no. Stupid thinking, the both of you. That would be targetting bureaucrats at the counter and civilians waiting in the lines, lambs to the slaughter, as it were — everyday Ukrainians just doing their “job” at the point of the SBU gun, not to mention the premises next door and passers-by. And it wouldn’t change the system anyway, which would just open another office down the street after a whole lot of international PR against Russia.
Your sense of righteous bigotted vengence is on display again, Professor Dr George. For an educated guy, your shortsighted but wordy guff never ceases to amaze me. Did you and Suresh stop to think how many actual recruitment offices there might be in Ukraine? Possibly one in every town these days. Did you stop to think how many missiles, and the cost to RF, to take them out for so little tactical gain? No you didn’t. You just mouth off trite partisan shite worthy of @shadowbanned, whom you used to excoriate for identical posts. HYPOCRITE. You forget, your keyboard is but a mirror to your ugly mind.

The job is to de-militarize Ukraine…. As Medvedev says… Ukraine is a NAZI state and all those who serve it must be destroyed..
Given there are 200 border posts and 2000 recruitment centers each manned by 10 men… Hitting them all with Geraniums would kill 22,000 of their personnel… Would interdict the flow of replacements to the front, and would eliminate barriers to emigration of unwilling cannon fodder out of Ukraine…
As for minds…. I post in my real name… I stand tall, and deliver…. Just as I did when I stood into harms way…
While you….
Cower in your hole….
Like the shit you are….
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 9 2023 1:46 utc | 461

Posted by: Suresh | Sep 8 2023 20:45 utc | 167
Cannot agree more…. those places should eat Geraniums…
INDY
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Ah, no. Stupid thinking, the both of you. That would be targetting bureaucrats at the counter and civilians waiting in the lines, lambs to the slaughter, as it were — everyday Ukrainians just doing their “job” at the point of the SBU gun, not to mention the premises next door and passers-by. And it wouldn’t change the system anyway, which would just open another office down the street after a whole lot of international PR against Russia.
Your sense of righteous bigotted vengence is on display again, Professor Dr George. For an educated guy, your shortsighted but wordy guff never ceases to amaze me. Did you and Suresh stop to think how many actual recruitment offices there might be in Ukraine? Possibly one in every town these days. Did you stop to think how many missiles, and the cost to RF, to take them out for so little tactical gain? No you didn’t. You just mouth off trite partisan shite worthy of @shadowbanned, whom you used to excoriate for identical posts. HYPOCRITE. You forget, your keyboard is but a mirror to your ugly mind.

The job is to de-militarize Ukraine…. As Medvedev says… Ukraine is a NAZI state and all those who serve it must be destroyed..
Given there are 200 border posts and 2000 recruitment centers each manned by 10 men… Hitting them all with Geraniums would kill 22,000 of their personnel… Would interdict the flow of replacements to the front, and would eliminate barriers to emigration of unwilling cannon fodder out of Ukraine…
As for minds…. I post in my real name… I stand tall, and deliver…. Just as I did when I stood into harms way…
While you….
Cower in your hole….
Like the shit you are….
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 9 2023 1:46 utc | 462

I wonder if Blinken ever stops to think that he helped fill those graves with the bodies of young men, fathers, sons.
Nah.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Sep 9 2023 1:48 utc | 463

I wonder if Blinken ever stops to think that he helped fill those graves with the bodies of young men, fathers, sons.
Nah.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Sep 9 2023 1:48 utc | 464

Squeeth 226
Blinken has followed his Westward ath across the Atlantic, sailing on a ship called Nazism which happened to have spaces in her hold.
If you follow the walk, not the talk, then the Ukrainian settlers in the US and Canada have deliberately set fire to their country of origin.
And they now are ready to follow another Westward path and attack China.
If a rat is programmed by an internal logic that following the sun will increase its chances of survival, nothing can change that programming.
The logic of that Westward impulse overrides humanity, religion, logic, nationality. Blinken and Co have spent 30 years burning their roots. The job is nearly completed. They now plan to take over China.
But when they get there, will it satisfy them? Don’t ask me , I’m a human. Ask a rat with a homing instinct for the sun.

Posted by: Giyane | Sep 9 2023 2:16 utc | 465

Squeeth 226
Blinken has followed his Westward ath across the Atlantic, sailing on a ship called Nazism which happened to have spaces in her hold.
If you follow the walk, not the talk, then the Ukrainian settlers in the US and Canada have deliberately set fire to their country of origin.
And they now are ready to follow another Westward path and attack China.
If a rat is programmed by an internal logic that following the sun will increase its chances of survival, nothing can change that programming.
The logic of that Westward impulse overrides humanity, religion, logic, nationality. Blinken and Co have spent 30 years burning their roots. The job is nearly completed. They now plan to take over China.
But when they get there, will it satisfy them? Don’t ask me , I’m a human. Ask a rat with a homing instinct for the sun.

Posted by: Giyane | Sep 9 2023 2:16 utc | 466

SCCC | Sep 9 2023 0:43 utc | 224
Fair enough.

Posted by: bevin | Sep 9 2023 2:23 utc | 467

SCCC | Sep 9 2023 0:43 utc | 224
Fair enough.

Posted by: bevin | Sep 9 2023 2:23 utc | 468

Jmaas | Sep 9 2023 0:41 utc | 222
The classic study, by the LCC in the early C20th, turned out to be fraudulent.

Posted by: bevin | Sep 9 2023 2:27 utc | 469

Jmaas | Sep 9 2023 0:41 utc | 222
The classic study, by the LCC in the early C20th, turned out to be fraudulent.

Posted by: bevin | Sep 9 2023 2:27 utc | 470

“..I do wonder how much of I make-up is genetic and how much is learned. Unfortunately both my parents are dead and I never got the chance to ask them.” dh@216
They wouldn’t have known the answer anyway.

Posted by: bevin | Sep 9 2023 2:30 utc | 471

“..I do wonder how much of I make-up is genetic and how much is learned. Unfortunately both my parents are dead and I never got the chance to ask them.” dh@216
They wouldn’t have known the answer anyway.

Posted by: bevin | Sep 9 2023 2:30 utc | 472

S | Sep 9 2023 0:19 utc | 218
True

Posted by: bevin | Sep 9 2023 2:31 utc | 473

S | Sep 9 2023 0:19 utc | 218
True

Posted by: bevin | Sep 9 2023 2:31 utc | 474

The expression on Blinken’s face of concentrated anxiety is a cover for his deep sense of satisfaction that this powerful group of ex pat Ukrainians have killed each and every man woman and child , crust of earth and stone building, reservoir and public utility of the country which they are from.
And, by blowing up Nordstream they have destroyed the public utility of the continent of Europe. This is nothing to do with Nazism. The rats have sailed in a boat travelling Westward. The next boat going West from the US will be Japanese imperialism.

Posted by: Giyane | Sep 9 2023 2:33 utc | 475

The expression on Blinken’s face of concentrated anxiety is a cover for his deep sense of satisfaction that this powerful group of ex pat Ukrainians have killed each and every man woman and child , crust of earth and stone building, reservoir and public utility of the country which they are from.
And, by blowing up Nordstream they have destroyed the public utility of the continent of Europe. This is nothing to do with Nazism. The rats have sailed in a boat travelling Westward. The next boat going West from the US will be Japanese imperialism.

Posted by: Giyane | Sep 9 2023 2:33 utc | 476

The definition of a psychopath is somebody who will use others entirely for their own selfish ends. The zionists and Islamists use the West ,as you rightly say, entirely for their own selfish purposes. Funnily enough the Jewish and Muslim faiths don’t instruct their followers to be psychopaths.
The psychopaths are operating entirely on their own. Woe to anybody who is gullible enough to listen to their
sweettalk and be fooled by them.

Posted by: Giyane | Sep 9 2023 2:44 utc | 477

The definition of a psychopath is somebody who will use others entirely for their own selfish ends. The zionists and Islamists use the West ,as you rightly say, entirely for their own selfish purposes. Funnily enough the Jewish and Muslim faiths don’t instruct their followers to be psychopaths.
The psychopaths are operating entirely on their own. Woe to anybody who is gullible enough to listen to their
sweettalk and be fooled by them.

Posted by: Giyane | Sep 9 2023 2:44 utc | 478

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 9 2023 1:46 utc | 234
Given there are 200 border posts and 2000 recruitment centers each manned by 10 men… Hitting them all with Geraniums would kill 22,000 of their personnel… Would interdict the flow of replacements to the front, and would eliminate barriers to emigration of unwilling cannon fodder out of Ukraine…
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Is that you @shadowbanned? Lol.
You truly are a sick puppy. You clearly just don’t get it.
So you advocate 2,200 Russian missiles into cities and towns to kill 22,000 Ukrainian bureaucrats along with all the collateral damage and prevent emigration?
Help me out here, barflies!
I really thought I had made a pretty simple and clear argument. But no. You’re just too senile and deluded to bother with. But I do enjoy sticking a pineapple up your arse. It’s fun to watch your reaction.

Posted by: SCCC | Sep 9 2023 3:00 utc | 479

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 9 2023 1:46 utc | 234
Given there are 200 border posts and 2000 recruitment centers each manned by 10 men… Hitting them all with Geraniums would kill 22,000 of their personnel… Would interdict the flow of replacements to the front, and would eliminate barriers to emigration of unwilling cannon fodder out of Ukraine…
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Is that you @shadowbanned? Lol.
You truly are a sick puppy. You clearly just don’t get it.
So you advocate 2,200 Russian missiles into cities and towns to kill 22,000 Ukrainian bureaucrats along with all the collateral damage and prevent emigration?
Help me out here, barflies!
I really thought I had made a pretty simple and clear argument. But no. You’re just too senile and deluded to bother with. But I do enjoy sticking a pineapple up your arse. It’s fun to watch your reaction.

Posted by: SCCC | Sep 9 2023 3:00 utc | 480

We can no more cure human nature than we can banish darkness forever by lighting every corner of the Earth. As long as there are humans, there will be human nature. A nature that can be beautiful, inspiring, sublime, and positive. Human nature can also be jealous, greedy, violent, and self-absorbed.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 8 2023 21:09 utc | 173
We are like the old Loony Tune cartoons with the little angel and devils whispering in our ears, one is our higher spiritual self and the other the lower animal urges, our evolution is to listen to the little angel. We are indeed far from that happening in significant enough numbers but its time will come. Thing is with the notion of reincarnation, not one I know followed by modern Christians, we all pass through all stages, races, sexes and potentialities, someone today many be decent as they have expended their lower emotions and are now moving in the right direction, others like our neocons are currently passing through that stage and have a long path ahead of them.

Posted by: Organic | Sep 9 2023 3:04 utc | 481

We can no more cure human nature than we can banish darkness forever by lighting every corner of the Earth. As long as there are humans, there will be human nature. A nature that can be beautiful, inspiring, sublime, and positive. Human nature can also be jealous, greedy, violent, and self-absorbed.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 8 2023 21:09 utc | 173
We are like the old Loony Tune cartoons with the little angel and devils whispering in our ears, one is our higher spiritual self and the other the lower animal urges, our evolution is to listen to the little angel. We are indeed far from that happening in significant enough numbers but its time will come. Thing is with the notion of reincarnation, not one I know followed by modern Christians, we all pass through all stages, races, sexes and potentialities, someone today many be decent as they have expended their lower emotions and are now moving in the right direction, others like our neocons are currently passing through that stage and have a long path ahead of them.

Posted by: Organic | Sep 9 2023 3:04 utc | 482

“..I do wonder how much of I make-up is genetic and how much is learned. Unfortunately both my parents are dead and I never got the chance to ask them.” dh@216
They wouldn’t have known the answer anyway.
Posted by: bevin | Sep 9 2023 2:30 utc | 239
True. That was kind of a joke. I don’t think my parents had a clue when they conceived me. Wartime marriage. Ended badly.

Posted by: dh | Sep 9 2023 3:05 utc | 483

“..I do wonder how much of I make-up is genetic and how much is learned. Unfortunately both my parents are dead and I never got the chance to ask them.” dh@216
They wouldn’t have known the answer anyway.
Posted by: bevin | Sep 9 2023 2:30 utc | 239
True. That was kind of a joke. I don’t think my parents had a clue when they conceived me. Wartime marriage. Ended badly.

Posted by: dh | Sep 9 2023 3:05 utc | 484

Exactly what is UK planning to do? Bomb Russian Navy to prevent them from inspecting ships?
@ Marvin | Sep 8 2023 17:28 utc | 120
Yes. That’s what I thought too. I have no idea and I doubt the Brits do either. 🙂

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 9 2023 3:33 utc | 485

Exactly what is UK planning to do? Bomb Russian Navy to prevent them from inspecting ships?
@ Marvin | Sep 8 2023 17:28 utc | 120
Yes. That’s what I thought too. I have no idea and I doubt the Brits do either. 🙂

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 9 2023 3:33 utc | 486

Posted by: dh | Sep 9 2023 3:05 utc | 245
“..I do wonder how much of I make-up is genetic and how much is learned. Unfortunately both my parents are dead and I never got the chance to ask them.” dh@216
They wouldn’t have known the answer anyway.
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Old Tibetan lama I once knew whose ancestor composed Tibetan Book of the Dead (which is actually entitled ‘Hearing in the Bardo’ and is meant to be read out loud to a recently deceased person until various signs in the body take place) said:
25% Previous life
25% From parents
50% Environment, present circumstances.
Sounds about right to me…

Posted by: scorpion | Sep 9 2023 3:44 utc | 487

Posted by: dh | Sep 9 2023 3:05 utc | 245
“..I do wonder how much of I make-up is genetic and how much is learned. Unfortunately both my parents are dead and I never got the chance to ask them.” dh@216
They wouldn’t have known the answer anyway.
=================================================
Old Tibetan lama I once knew whose ancestor composed Tibetan Book of the Dead (which is actually entitled ‘Hearing in the Bardo’ and is meant to be read out loud to a recently deceased person until various signs in the body take place) said:
25% Previous life
25% From parents
50% Environment, present circumstances.
Sounds about right to me…

Posted by: scorpion | Sep 9 2023 3:44 utc | 488

My name is Bezores, High Priest Of Neo-Synephrine.

Posted by: Jimmy Flies By | Sep 9 2023 3:57 utc | 489

My name is Bezores, High Priest Of Neo-Synephrine.

Posted by: Jimmy Flies By | Sep 9 2023 3:57 utc | 490

Heritability is a quite difficult concept (The heritability of the number of arms and limbs is near zero) but luckily in everyday use we err to the near correct result.
In personality traits genetic factors account for nearly 2/3 , ~60-70% of variation. An interesting aspect is that it grows with age. One would believe otherwise as the time lived in an environment increases, but it is not so.

Posted by: Catilina | Sep 9 2023 4:09 utc | 491

Heritability is a quite difficult concept (The heritability of the number of arms and limbs is near zero) but luckily in everyday use we err to the near correct result.
In personality traits genetic factors account for nearly 2/3 , ~60-70% of variation. An interesting aspect is that it grows with age. One would believe otherwise as the time lived in an environment increases, but it is not so.

Posted by: Catilina | Sep 9 2023 4:09 utc | 492

The poor souls that crew the Leopard 1A5 tanks just delivered. They certainly wouldnt be volunteers knowing the retro armour wont probably even see a Russian before being incinerated. Welded shut hatches might be making a comeback

Posted by: hankster | Sep 9 2023 4:32 utc | 493

The poor souls that crew the Leopard 1A5 tanks just delivered. They certainly wouldnt be volunteers knowing the retro armour wont probably even see a Russian before being incinerated. Welded shut hatches might be making a comeback

Posted by: hankster | Sep 9 2023 4:32 utc | 494

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ War Map and the Situation on the Fronts for the Evening of 8 September 2023; pub. 00:05⚡️
⚡️ There are reports that in Krivoy Rog law enforcers and the AFU command were holding a meeting in one of the buildings of the 404 Ministry of Internal Affairs. There is also data that at that very moment a Russian missile flew there and destroyed the building with Nazis. Two simple conclusions can be drawn from what happened – that the militants and mercenaries are tired of restaurants, and that it is not typical for Russian missiles to miss.
⚔️ Situation on the Fronts over the past Day
🔹#Svatovo – #Kremennaya Direction:
▪️ The Russian army continues to occupy AFU positions near #Sinkovka and #Petropavlovka. On the #Karmazinovka ledge, ours have advanced in the area of #Novoyegorovka.
🔹#Bakhmut (#Artyomovsk) Direction:
▪️ Russian fighters counterattacked in the area of Orekhovo-Vasilyevka.
▪️ The AFU managed to advance within #Kleshcheyevka⚠️, but the fighting continues for the village.
▪️ The militants are also trying to break through our positions at #Andreyevka.
🔹#Zaporozhye Direction:
▪️ In the #Orekhov section without serious changes. #Pyatikhatki, and #Rabotino are in the grey zone. Russian artillery stops all attempts of militants to take the villages.
▪️ The AFU also unsuccessfully attacked near #Verbovoye.
▪️ On the #Vremyevka ledge, the enemy is hammering on the #Novodonetskoye – #Novomayorskoye line. In addition, our fighters counterattacked the enemy’s positions near #Priyutnoye.
💥 The Russian Army does not stop zeroing 404 infrastructure in #Odessa region. Also ours worked on military facilities in #Zaporozhye, where light problems were also reported.

https://t.me/sitreports/14715

Posted by: Down South | Sep 9 2023 4:56 utc | 495

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ War Map and the Situation on the Fronts for the Evening of 8 September 2023; pub. 00:05⚡️
⚡️ There are reports that in Krivoy Rog law enforcers and the AFU command were holding a meeting in one of the buildings of the 404 Ministry of Internal Affairs. There is also data that at that very moment a Russian missile flew there and destroyed the building with Nazis. Two simple conclusions can be drawn from what happened – that the militants and mercenaries are tired of restaurants, and that it is not typical for Russian missiles to miss.
⚔️ Situation on the Fronts over the past Day
🔹#Svatovo – #Kremennaya Direction:
▪️ The Russian army continues to occupy AFU positions near #Sinkovka and #Petropavlovka. On the #Karmazinovka ledge, ours have advanced in the area of #Novoyegorovka.
🔹#Bakhmut (#Artyomovsk) Direction:
▪️ Russian fighters counterattacked in the area of Orekhovo-Vasilyevka.
▪️ The AFU managed to advance within #Kleshcheyevka⚠️, but the fighting continues for the village.
▪️ The militants are also trying to break through our positions at #Andreyevka.
🔹#Zaporozhye Direction:
▪️ In the #Orekhov section without serious changes. #Pyatikhatki, and #Rabotino are in the grey zone. Russian artillery stops all attempts of militants to take the villages.
▪️ The AFU also unsuccessfully attacked near #Verbovoye.
▪️ On the #Vremyevka ledge, the enemy is hammering on the #Novodonetskoye – #Novomayorskoye line. In addition, our fighters counterattacked the enemy’s positions near #Priyutnoye.
💥 The Russian Army does not stop zeroing 404 infrastructure in #Odessa region. Also ours worked on military facilities in #Zaporozhye, where light problems were also reported.

https://t.me/sitreports/14715

Posted by: Down South | Sep 9 2023 4:56 utc | 496

Posted by: migueljose | Sep 8 2023 17:42 utc | 125
Posted by: FrankDrakman | Sep 8 2023 17:57 utc | 129
Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 8 2023 21:54 utc | 184
Thank you

Posted by: Down South | Sep 9 2023 5:01 utc | 497

Posted by: migueljose | Sep 8 2023 17:42 utc | 125
Posted by: FrankDrakman | Sep 8 2023 17:57 utc | 129
Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 8 2023 21:54 utc | 184
Thank you

Posted by: Down South | Sep 9 2023 5:01 utc | 498

Posted by: Professor Dr. George William Oprisko III | Sep 9 2023 1:46 utc | 234
Just as I did when I stood into harms way…
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And exactly what harm did you stand in front of in Hawaii 1968-1970 as a draftee reservist?

Posted by: SCCC | Sep 9 2023 6:38 utc | 499

Posted by: Professor Dr. George William Oprisko III | Sep 9 2023 1:46 utc | 234
Just as I did when I stood into harms way…
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And exactly what harm did you stand in front of in Hawaii 1968-1970 as a draftee reservist?

Posted by: SCCC | Sep 9 2023 6:38 utc | 500