“Paper” drone.. well first there was: http://www.all-aero.com/index.php/55-planes-t-u/10921-taylor-micro-imp
Maybe they should have started here..

Posted by: T S | Sep 4 2023 0:09 utc | 203

They don’t need a particular enemy to justify their oppression. If there isn’t one, they will invent one.
China, Russia, white supremacy, Trumpism, Q-Anon, Islamists, Conservative Catholics, Proud Boys, etc. They always keep a roster of boogeymen to tie people and ideas to in order to mobilize mass opinion against individuals and challenges to their authority.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 3 2023 22:04 utc | 94
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Who are “They”? Other than “the people in charge” you do not identify who “they” are. From the list of villains that you say “they” use or invent to get what they want, I suppose that you mean “they” are Democrats; but you are only partially correct.
The US/ Nato proxy war in Ukraine has produced (or more accurately exposed) a new creature if western politics: The Uni-Party. In the US, it has actually been around for a long time, at least since the end of WWII, and it has always coalesced around the Soviet Union, China, Vietnam, and any left or socialist states or movements anywhere in the world.
The Uni-Party represents the most concrete aspect of capitalist politics today: It is not elected as such, but it self-forms as a cohesive group around geopolitical issues concerning economics and wars necessary to defend the capitalist hegemony or to oppose working-class interest. On those issues, all western capitalist parties are unified.
Today, in the US, the Uni-Party bridges the superficial gap between the Elephant and the Jack Ass party on the issue of the proxy war in Ukraine. This unity is often hidden to present the illusion of “democratic” political differences around mostly superficial issues. However, concerning Ukraine and Russia, the Uni-Party is open and visible for all the world to see, this is because the US / NATO proxy conflict is in many ways as much of an existential issue to the US ruling class as it is to Ukraine and Russia, because the US ruling class must defeat, first Russia and then China, to order to stop BRICK’s (and other movements against the hegemonic US dollar) for reasons we all (or should) know because it has been discussed ad nauseam elsewhere on MoA.
This being the case, I am projecting that at some point soon the US, and some NATO countries, are going to attack Russia. There is no reason why they won’t, the Uni-Party in the US, and similar groups in the EU, will vote to enter the conflict as soon as it becomes either necessary or opportunistically convenient.
The US and the Western nations do not give a damn about the UN or international norms, rules, or laws; they didn’t care in Korea, Vietnam, Panama, Iran, Palestine, Cuba, Nicaragua, Serbia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, or Syria today: Neither will they give a tinker’s damn about UN norms, rules, or laws in Africa and certainly not in Ukraine or Russia.
Both President Biden and Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin have made it perfectly clear that the only real purpose for the proxy war in Ukraine, and the economic sanctions, was to reduce the military capability of Russia, and to make life so hard for the Russian population (and the Russian Oligarchs) that they will oust President Putin from the Kremlin and replace him with another Yeltsin type quisling. I suspect that the US realizes that they failed in both cases (or more likely, they knew that Ukraine could not prevail against Russia, but thought that sanctions would finish Russia off), but because they really have no choice, the US and NATO will eventually have to make their move for war with Russia.
Regardless, of whichever party wins the 2024 US Presidential election, and regardless of the final makeup of the House and Senate, the Uni-Party will support, and vote for a war with Russia, if it is brought to the floor (just like Iraq) regardless of what the rest of the world may think, or any Milly Mouthed resistance from the UN; The Hegemon has its own norms, rules, and laws and because the rapid progress of BRICK’s on the international stage is an existential threat to the US and Western Ruling classes, only war can stop, or slow it down.
Of course, this all raises the specter of a nuclear conflict, but at the moment, the Uni-Party in Washington and the neo-cons that advise the leaders of the Uni-Party seem to believe that the US and its Western boot lickers in NATO can either survive a nuclear conflict, or the just don’t believe that Putin has the gonads to push the button.

Posted by: Ed | Sep 4 2023 0:40 utc | 205

@ the pessimist | Sep 3 2023 22:58 utc | 97
thanks… i don’t have a clear concept of where this is all headed.. obviously, like many, i would like this over with yesterday.. but that is impossible when one side wants to prolong it for as long as possible.. i hope the side that wishes to prolong it ultimately suffers the most.. they are making everyone else suffer, so it makes sense they would suffer the most.. in spite of the usa-nato and friends idea of this putting a nail in russia’s coffin, it appears in many ways the opposite.. nato might maintain a good front, but it wouldn’t surprise me to see it fall apart before russia did.. of course i am being wishful here, lol.. meanwhile we will continue to follow along day by day and not be in any hurry, in spite of the huge loss of life to all involved… i put that responsibility on usa-nato and friends entirely..

Posted by: james | Sep 4 2023 0:56 utc | 207

Posted by: aquadraht | Sep 3 2023 21:57 utc | 88
“I do not see so much of concern trolling in your post, rather obsessive and desperate belief in western superiority.”
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I have no illusions that the West is superior and it sounds like you aren’t dismissive like LoveDonbass is.
I’m arguing that there is about x10 the available engineer resources in the West, that they have rough parity with Russian and Chinese in skill, and that despite the best efforts of Boeing/Lockheed/General Dynamics there is still a network of small, fast-moving weapon makers in the US.
Look at SpaceX. Crazy profiteering leadership but with rock solid execution. I doubt that they employ a 1/10 of the available aerospace engineering talent in the West.
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The production side is a bit more promising for Russia. I overstated the expected production of these weapons because an article conveniently claim the US maker could make 6K/month when they only said 6K/year.
But that 6K/year is a problem if Russia needs to take territory with tanks in Summer of 2025. The quality of forces on the Ukraine side is going to continue to go down but the quality of weapons to stop an offense is likely to improve.

Posted by: je | Sep 4 2023 1:02 utc | 209

98 SCCC asio is busy helping big oil get better business outcomes than chase down a post. remember it was excess luggage weight that foiled the Ethiad bomb in a mincer back in 2017. mincer was many kilo overwiegt for cabin luggage so they left. weeks later it was netanyahoo that bragged he foiled the plot and israel helped out australia.

Posted by: hankster | Sep 4 2023 1:30 utc | 211

For a bit of humour chek out the RT feature article on Jason Stratham.

Posted by: the pessimist | Sep 4 2023 2:01 utc | 213

Posted by: Mary | Sep 3 2023 22:03 utc | 92 So please describe the tactical &/or strategic advantage Ukr gained from the sinking? Other than a few days news headlines?”
Pushed the entire Russian fleet away from the Ukrainian coast. That removed the Russian AA envelope that reached along and into the Ukrainian coastline. Ended the possibility of a Russian landing on the Ukrainian coast. Raised Ukrainian morale.

Posted by: Ed4 | Sep 4 2023 2:04 utc | 215

Posted by: Mary | Sep 3 2023 22:03 utc | 92 So please describe the tactical &/or strategic advantage Ukr gained from the sinking? Other than a few days news headlines?”
Pushed the entire Russian fleet away from the Ukrainian coast. That removed the Russian AA envelope that reached along and into the Ukrainian coastline. Ended the possibility of a Russian landing on the Ukrainian coast. Raised Ukrainian morale.

Posted by: Ed4 | Sep 4 2023 2:04 utc | 217

AI can do this in minutes
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Sep 3 2023 18:32 utc | 53
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That means it can make the same mistake a lot faster?
I thought that there was some merit to the design of algorithms, starting as early as the 1950s, credits to Carnegie-Mellon University, MIT, and Bolt Baranek & Newman.
Bolt and Beranek were MIT professors, the company focused on acoustic consulting and received ARPA awards for hardware development. LISP was the language of choice then upgraded to Interlisp in the 1970s by Xerox PARC. I started up the Interlisp shop for Xerox in Webster NY in the early 80s for GUI development.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Sep 4 2023 2:18 utc | 219

B, you can’t counter propaganda by hiding people from it, it simply lends credence to the propaganda.simply put it makes you look afraid of bad news, like its real.
Frankly it makes it seem like you believe it. The censorship isn’t a good weapon just because you have good intentions.
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Sep 3 2023 17:12 utc | 35
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Hey, who in the f**K are you talking to? Shouldn’t you be talking smack about censorship to your bosses at the NED, or what ever NGO you are blogging for.? Fucking fleas everywhere.

Posted by: Ed | Sep 4 2023 2:21 utc | 221

However, I am starting to doubt Russia’s ability to conduct a successful offensive. This is due to the reports of some notable military leaders of obtaining adequate support for their troops from the Russian MOD command structure.
It could be that Sergei Shoigu has a difficult time relating to his more aggressive commanders and offensive leaders. This is often the case with a Minister of Defense that is more suspicious of aggressive commanders than being observant of their capabilities and being sensitive to the needs of the battlefield.
A great commander is able to balance their offensive and their defensive leaders to bring about victory.
I question that this is the case with Shoigu.
I think that Shoigu purposefully hinders the more aggressive commanders in their tasks on the front lines. In doing so he not only hinders the commanders and leaders he does not like, but he also jeapordises the troops under their command.
Perhaps, Prigozhin and Popov had legitimate concerns regarding the Russian MOD.
Posted by: young | Sep 3 2023 16:28 utc | 27
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Trolls (fleas) to cocoon with the majority of the commenters for a while, commenting in similar fashion with the general gist of the site. But sooner or later after making themselves “known” as one of the barflies, they must make their break with the majority and do their job of demoralizing the bar.
We got your number flea.

Posted by: Ed | Sep 4 2023 2:39 utc | 223

Pres Xi ain’t going to the forthcoming G20 summit, where Biden wanted to meet him. Biden “doesn’t know where they might next meet”. He’s certainly being snubbed, possibly till even the end of his term. Sob, sob. How humiliating! I suspect Xi is tacitly appealing to the NEXT US Pres to build not burn bridges — a good running platform for Trump against the neo-con-Dems.
Lol. Perhaps … just perhaps … the BRICS Club might invite Biden to come visit them where China and Russia will be. Ho ho ho.

Posted by: SCCC | Sep 4 2023 2:44 utc | 225

Posted by: Suresh | Sep 3 2023 20:57 utc | 78
MoA an echo chamber?
I wonder if 9 out of 10 people concludes 2+2=4 if they are just echoing each other?
Absolutely brilliant! Worth remembering next time I read that MoA is an “echo chamber”.

Posted by: Alchemist | Sep 4 2023 3:04 utc | 227

Posted by: hankster | Sep 4 2023 1:30 utc | 107
You, mate, are a fkn idiot.
1. Your post had nothing to do with mine.
2. You clearly don’t know shit about how national security agencies search for, track and monitor online, surveil in every day life, visit homes and then bust radical citizens who talk like Neal.
Some years ago here in Aus, there was a cell of neo-Marxist “disruptors” plotting to unbolt (yeah, big spanners is all it takes) and tug over some rural HV powerline towers to disrupt Canberra during an ASEAN meeting. They got badly busted through a few ambiguous, suggestive online posts.
So stfu, and give good advice to fellow travellers instead of mouthing off topic with your rants to those (like me) who mean well.
Fuck I hate this “bar” sometimes. The doorman too often lets in deluded drunks and druggies. A basic grammar entrance test would be handy too for CAPS usage. Fuck off hankster and leave my posts alone.

Posted by: SCCC | Sep 4 2023 3:08 utc | 229

Posted by: Arrnon | Sep 3 2023 19:33 utc | 65
What are you doing here, Arrnon? Hit the road and don’t you come back no more. You have said more than enough and won’t ever have anything else to say. Go, go, go.

Posted by: Konrad | Sep 4 2023 3:33 utc | 231

Who are “They”? Other than “the people in charge” you do not identify who “they” are. From the list of villains that you say “they” use or invent to get what they want, I suppose that you mean “they” are Democrats; but you are only partially correct.
Posted by: Ed | Sep 4 2023 0:40 utc | 104
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The comment I was replying to was #86. I was referring to the people that poster was.
But really, I was referring to political elites all across the West, as an American you probably don’t pay any attention to how rotten the pols are in Australia, New Zealand, or France. There isn’t much difference between any of them. Even the third-party candidates are rotten. It’s all a big joke, made funnier by your comments about the uni-party, which as is typical, avoids criticizing the permanent bureaucracy. The problem isn’t a party or an ideology. The problem, for the umpteenth time, is power, and power operates according to its own principles and rules.
So-called democratic power behaves according to a very consistent and predictable paradigm.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 4 2023 3:55 utc | 233

I have no illusions that the West is superior and it sounds like you aren’t dismissive like LoveDonbass is.
Posted by: je | Sep 4 2023 1:02 utc | 106
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Serious question. What difference does it make if I am dismissive or not?
Are they holding up the nuclear launches until LoveDonbass is on board with their decisions? I don’t think so.
I am dismissive because the West is a bad joke, and America is the ringleader of the West. Even this hare-brained stuff in Ukraine is a bad joke. America imposes sanctions from Hell, and Russia and its allies become economically stronger.
Am I really supposed to seriously discuss weapons systems made in a society where companies hire for diversity over competence? Where Senate oversight is bought and paid for by the very companies they are meant to oversee? Where the educational system is focused on turning out more white-collar and service workers, than engineers and scientists? Where the Generals are trannies, and the CiC is a senile crook who has trouble navigating his way onto and off of a stage?
So yeah, I don’t have much respect for America the nation. There are some wonderful Americans, but they aren’t as common as one might hope. If one understands that sick trees bear rotten fruit, you will have to forgive me for not getting an erection over SpaceX or any other technological or jingoistic propaganda.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 4 2023 4:06 utc | 235

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 4 2023 3:55 utc | 118
Anti Americanism is the anti Imperialism of fools. It’s not a monolith, grampa.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 4 2023 4:48 utc | 237

In the previous open thread, I believe it was karlof1 who posted the following link:
https://matthewehret.substack.com/p/how-to-crush-a-bankers-dictatorship
In the spirit of psychohistorian, who basically says about most issues “follow the money”, I’m reposting the above as an important historical comparison I think we all need to make. It may be that financial considerations shall determine how many of our current problems are resolved, so I’d love those who are more expert than I to consider this weighty essay. My question would be, have we been where we are today before? If so, is this the way out?

Posted by: juliania | Sep 4 2023 5:29 utc | 239

survive a nuclear conflict
Posted by: Ed | Sep 4 2023 0:40 utc | 104
To anyone who thinks nuclear weapons should be used:
Open the following link, enter the closest city as target, make sure “casualties” is selected, and click “detonate”.
Nuclear Map

Posted by: Passerby | Sep 4 2023 5:54 utc | 241

Why is Putin meeting Erdogan today?
The architect of the disastrous Black Sea grain deal which proved beneficial only to Turkey and Ukraine.
Instead of giving more concessions he needs to up the military ante against the Turks

Posted by: Night Tripper | Sep 4 2023 6:18 utc | 243

Posted by: Passerby | Sep 4 2023 5:54 utc | 122
nice, thanks

Posted by: Tim | Sep 4 2023 6:35 utc | 245

”Would you buy a used car from Rustem Umerov?
The emerging head of the Ukraine Ministry of Defense has NO military experience, wasn’t born or raised in Ukraine (he is an Uzbek), isn’t a practitioner of either of Ukraine’s major religions and barely speaks the country’s alleged language.
He has all of the ethics and ability of a NFT hustler or snake-oil salesman.
The Kyiv story just becomes more of a tragic comedy every day.”
Guess meritocracy is not in fashion in Ukraine.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 4 2023 6:43 utc | 247

A day or two ago I intuitively postulated that so many of the AFU’s operations seemed strangely amateurish, clutzy, suicidal, useless, as if teenagers were just told to go out and shoot stuff. But that’s clearly different to the complex planned ops by MI6 and the SBU.
Today, whilst reading Simplicius’s latest exposé on the command structure of the AFU — how NATO trains them, and the difference between Russia’s command structures — it all became clear why it is in fact so.
In addition to the AFU losing many many parties of commanders from regular RF missile hits on their meetings, they have mainly Non-Commissioned Officers (up to sargeants) directing things at the fronts — whereas Russia has real, trained military officers much closer to the fighting.
This all hints that attrition of the AFU is working real well and will soon lead to an army of Zelensky + Zaluzhny + a few thousand disorganised grunts.
In the meantime, Zelensky directs a theatre of calamities from within his PR ideologies that stuff be fired, villages fought for, boats be sent to hassle Crimea, Russian territory pinpricked daily by drones.
So, nothing to really worry about. Time and patience will yield victory for the RF Armies.

Posted by: SCCC | Sep 4 2023 6:47 utc | 249

A question that hasn’t been adequately answered, for me at least: assuming (in some alternative reality) that the Ukraine beats Russia, takes back all its territory and pushes the Russians back over the original border. Now what? The current inhabitants of the Donbass and the Crimea will hardly be delighted at this development, so will they stay to be subjugated, or leave en mass? Ethnic cleansing or just a new Palestinian situation? Do we advocate genocidal policies now? Will this be a good outcome?
Then what will Russia think of this development? If Putin doesn’t survive the catastrophe, who will replace him and will the replacement be more or less agressive regarding NATO? Will the russian military allow a carving up of Russia into small pieces, given the existential threat etc? Will we all just all die in a nuclear holocaust?
All fun questions to ask the blinkered and propaganda-fed should you be feeling vindictive, but I haven’t seen anything from a policy point of view regarding desired outcomes. Is this the new normal? (That’s a rhetorical question, obviously.)
In other news, the Ukraine is actually winning, according to their government, the BBC, the Guardian etc.

General Staff: Russia has lost 265,120 troops in Ukraine since Feb 24, 2022. Ukraine’s General Staff reported on Sept. 4 that Russia had also lost 4,480 tanks, 8,663 armored fighting vehicles, 8,149 vehicles and fuel tanks, 5,611 artillery systems, 741 multiple launch rocket systems, 503 air defense systems, 315 airplanes, 316 helicopters, 4,481 drones, and 19 boats

Suspiciously similar to the Russian MOD clobber list – but one of these sides is not like the other.

Posted by: Occasional poster | Sep 4 2023 6:47 utc | 251

Ukraine is preparing to mobilize women
▪️From October 1, 2023, medical and pharmaceutical workers will be required to register at military registration and enlistment offices.
▪️ Women liable for military service are assigned the same duties as men, they must: register for military service, undergo training for service, report to the military registration and enlistment offices about changes in the place of registration/residence, marital status, and disability.
https://twitter.com/OlgaBazova/status/1698577771834826897

Mobilizing female health workers?
Götterdämmerung?
Der Untergang, anyone?

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 4 2023 6:51 utc | 253

Ukraine will not be able to break through❕
Oleg Soskin, a former adviser to former President of Ukraine Leonid Kuchma, said that the Armed Forces of Ukraine not only did not advance during the “counterattack”, but also lost control over the defense line in the Kharkiv area.
“All the time they say that it is already a victory, you are already chasing it, they have already broken through… But, unfortunately, Ukraine cannot break through” – complained Soskin.
In his opinion, the situation on the front suggests that the troops of the Kiev regime will not be able to prevent the advance of Russian troops on Kupyansk.
The former adviser cited a number of reasons for the failure of the “counterattack” – from the technical superiority of the Russian Army to the ineffectiveness of Ukrainian tactics.
“Because of this, the Armed Forces of Ukraine not only do not advance in the south and do not reach the first line of defense of the enemy, but also noticeably lose control over the defense in the north, returning back to Kupyansk” Soskin concluded.
Earlier, the Chinese media wrote that the loss of Kupjansk would lead to the end of Zelenski’s political career.
https://twitter.com/Sprinter99800/status/1698278116785824033

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 4 2023 7:12 utc | 255

𝐑𝐢𝐠𝐡𝐭 𝐒𝐞𝐜𝐭𝐨𝐫 𝐟𝐢𝐠𝐡𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐬 (𝟔𝟕 𝐛𝐫𝐢𝐠𝐚𝐝𝐞 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐀𝐅𝐔) 𝐚𝐫𝐞 𝐛𝐞𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡𝐝𝐫𝐚𝐰𝐧 𝐟𝐫𝐨𝐦 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐊𝐮𝐩𝐲𝐚𝐧𝐬𝐤𝐢𝐲 𝐝𝐢𝐫𝐞𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐭𝐨 𝐃𝐧𝐞𝐩𝐫𝐨𝐩𝐞𝐭𝐫𝐨𝐯𝐬𝐤 𝐑𝐞𝐠𝐢𝐨𝐧.
Instead of the nationalists, who had lost their fighting capacity, units of the 14th brigade of the AFU were transferred to the Petropavlovka area, whose losses are now being replaced by mobilized residents of Kharkov Region.
Due to the decrease in the level of moral of the counter-offensives, barrier troops with Polish mercenaries have appeared in the area of Kupyansk.
https://twitter.com/Ramy_Sawma/status/1698292398462296451

Foreign Polish troops pushing native Ukrainians to their death. Estonians, Latvians, Lithuanians etc. should take note when British and American soldiers will be ”securing” their rear…

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 4 2023 7:20 utc | 257

Looking at Newsweek, Russia is losing badly:
Russia steps up new plan to bolster troops after heavy losses: U.K.
“Moscow has turned to its neighbors to boost personnel numbers to avoid ordering a full-scale mobilization of the country.”
Russia loses 22 artillery systems, 12 APVs in a day: Ukraine
“Ukraine has reportedly made advances in its counteroffensive efforts in the past week.”
Ukraine shows off sea of Leopard tanks in rebuke to Russia
“Kyiv’s grinding land counteroffensive has focused on peeling back Russia’s positions in southern and eastern Ukraine.”
Ukraine could make rapid counteroffensive gains after first line breach
“Kyiv has retaken several villages in the southern Zaporizhzhia region, but progress over the past three months has been slowed by Russian defenses.”
This will have “the double goal of cutting through the land bridge and destroying as many Russian units as possible,” Mertens said. “This would be the military reward that makes all that hard fighting worth it” for Ukraine, he added.
“It is expected that the counteroffensive will speed up from here on out,” political strategist and consultant, Jason Jay Smart, added on social media.

Posted by: Simon | Sep 4 2023 7:25 utc | 259

It seems the US embassy in Kiev wanted to illustrate Russian agression against Ukraine in 2023 using a picture of Odessa bonfires in 2014.
Tweet

Posted by: Passerby | Sep 4 2023 7:38 utc | 261

Correction: US embassy in Prague

Posted by: Passerby | Sep 4 2023 7:44 utc | 263

Its pretty obvious that Ukraine is losing badly and that Russia will grind them down until they start to collapse – only then will we see significant Russian advances. Sadly, the West will get most of their “Plan C” (Plan A being Russian collapse, Plan B being a new Afghanistan for Russia) which is the delivery of a destroyed Ukraine to Russia.
Ukraine has 6-12 months depending on how long the leadership can stay in control of the country and the army. I carried out a sad analysis of this Ukraine: A Country Of Old And Damaged Men. By the end of this there will be few 18-50 year-old men in Ukrainian controlled territory that have not been either killed, injured or psychologically scarred by combat.

Posted by: Roger | Sep 4 2023 8:06 utc | 265

JustAMaverick | 7

At any time Russia … could turn all the lights off in Ukraine and leave the country in the dark.

Indeed. but to do so would be so “British” — that is, utilitarian, leading to barbarism. I am reading about a certain Colonel Charles Callwell, a graduate of the Royal Military Academy and a veteran of several nineteenth-century imperial wars. He drew much of inspiration for his theory of warfare from his fellow British military commanders, past and present, and fervently advocated waging total destruction against enemies arguing that such a method yielded both huge strategic advantage and had a tremendous moral effect: “The enemy must be made to feel a moral inferiority throughout… must be thoroughly brought to book and cowed or they will rise again.”
That was before the Russian tsar Nicholas II convened an international peace conference in the Hague, where European states adopted their first convention for governing rules of war. Two initiatives thus emerged: the Geneva Conventions and the Hague Conventions…”
How about we think of what’s happening as an elaborate ritual, a rite of passage of sorts, all in the name of safeguarding some of our humanity in circumstances that are nothing short of inhuman.
—-
Legacy of Violence: A History of the British Empire
Book by Caroline Elkins
“I learned to recognize the thorough and primitive duality of man; I saw that, of the two natures that contended in the field of my consciousness, even if I could rightly be said to be either, it was only because I was radically both.”
– The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde

Posted by: Nomad | Sep 4 2023 8:26 utc | 267

Looking deeper into a theory I mentioned in another thread, it would be interesting to hear your thoughts regarding the possibility that the US neocon tribe led by Victoria Nuland are deliberately using the Russians to annihilate the Ukrainians and to destroy/vacate the Ukrainian state.
This because:
1. their ancestors/families were persecuted during pogroms or chased down by Ukrainians assisting the Nazis during WW2 – i.e. they actually hate Ukrainians at least as much as Russians
2. because they desire the now forcefully vacated territories in order to fully reinstate their kin to their historical lands of origin
3. extensive and continuous war brings a massive windfall to the MIC where they are major shareholders,
Combined with their apparent willingness to destroy the industries/economies of Europe and lack of interest in the viability of the US society and economy, this leads to another overarching possibility:
they could actually be on the way to move their chips to the other side of the table – i.e. gradually infesting the upcoming new power bloc with the same Blackrock/WEF/WHO shenanigans but with a different flavor and under a different narrative, all while letting the west sink in misery…
Thoughts?

Posted by: Aivazovsky | Sep 4 2023 8:29 utc | 269

Posted by: Aivazovsky | Sep 4 2023 8:29 utc | 136
You may be on to something, if you consider this. It’s possible, and based on recent comments of Zelensky of Israel Mk.2 that the country is being emptied for the arrival and new colonization.

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We don’t need more than 20 million people in Ukraine – Brzezinsky.
The first Prime Minister of Ukraine (1991-1992), Vitold Fokin, recalls meeting Zbegniew Brzezinski, former US national security advisor, who said Ukraine needs no more than 20 million people (at the time, 50+ million) to be controlled by the US.
Back in 1997, Brzezinski wrote his book “The Grand Chessboard” in which he calculated the future conflict in Ukraine, calling it a “pivot state”. Wherever it pivots will decide the balance of power.
🤷‍♀️It wouldn’t need to pivot anywhere at all, if the US minded its own sphere of influence. Interview is dated before the Special Operation, 13.01.2022 – if anyone has a longer outtake, send my way.
“>https://t.me/BrexiteersforTrumpChat/27988

Other reasons are obviously US MIC, controlled by the same people in BlackRock, JP Morgan, Vanguard etc.
We should remember that both world wars also had their share of funding belligerents originating from the “usual suspects”. WW1 consolidated to cement the new Federal Reserve structure to enable private banks take over US debt holdings and dictation of national policies. WW2 enabled US to take over the remnants of the British empire, take over a destroyed Europe and consolidate it under the US umbrella, along with massive contracts under the scheme known as “Marshall plan” for US companies. After that, the addicted MIC started to take over.
Now we are seeing a yet renewed attempt to squash voices of independence within Europe, weaken Germany and use eastern Europe manpower “joined with western technology” (as phrased by Soros) to weaken the enemies of hegemony.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 4 2023 8:43 utc | 271

Russia has decided on s war of attrition against the military, the Nazis, and not the civilians. They want to win without destroying Ukraine. It is not because of corruption (unlike the US) that Russia has adopted these tactics. Remember it is an SMO.

Posted by: Johnj | Sep 4 2023 9:03 utc | 273

AI can do this in minutes
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Sep 3 2023 18:32 utc | 53
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That means it can make the same mistake a lot faster?
I thought that there was some merit to the design of algorithms, starting as early as the 1950s, credits to Carnegie-Mellon University, MIT, and Bolt Baranek & Newman.
Bolt and Beranek were MIT professors, the company focused on acoustic consulting and received ARPA awards for hardware development. LISP was the language of choice then upgraded to Interlisp in the 1970s by Xerox PARC. I started up the Interlisp shop for Xerox in Webster NY in the early 80s for GUI development.
Posted by: Acco Hengst | Sep 4 2023 2:18 utc | 111
AI should provide a “solution” in far less than a second. It’s a matter of hardware. AI is just an algorithm, trained by humans. This is based on data. This is provided or collected by the algorithm, with the help of sensors, whose evaluation must then also be realized with the help of algorithms. What can be recognized must be known (defined), unknown things can be “recognized” (everything that is not known) but not classified (parameters of the object). Even with definable objects, however, the parameters are often not known (known Russian air defense system, but unknown range).
AI is used for autonomous decision making. With it comes responsibility. Responsible people therefore use AI accordingly so as not to harm themselves.
Anecdote or not, I think the story of the following article is possible.
https://www.thedefensepost.com/2023/06/02/us-drone-attacks-operator/

Posted by: 600w | Sep 4 2023 9:05 utc | 275

Silence over who killed Prigozhin
Media silence is a frequent indicator that we’re not supposed to learn, talk or think about the issue in question. What’s different about the silence on the downing of Prigozhin’s plane, is the fact that, this time, it’s the Russian media that stopped reporting. Initially, there was some coverage on selected days on the RT international TV program – while there used to be some coverage on the RT German and English web pages. Now that’s gone, too.
Interestingly, the last piece I found there does not treat the incident as an act of sabotage with the intent of murder. Rather, it is consistently referred to as an accident. At the same time, everybody discussing the event on MoA was in agreement on the likelihood of sabotage.
What if Putin were to find out that the perpetrators of the attack, which killed 7 key figures of the Wagner group, contain a subset of the Russian Ministery of Defense? The very same people he depends upon for winning the SMO? If I were in his shoes, I would tell the media to avoid the subject alltogether – in order to avoid an unsolvable conflict. So we will never learn “whodunnit”.

Posted by: grunzt | Sep 4 2023 9:35 utc | 277

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 3 2023 19:47 utc | 69
Absolutely!
But this is wishful thinking masquerading as facts on the ground.
Can you spell “firebag?”
How about “cauldron?”
Posted by: Mary | Sep 3 2023 19:54 utc | 72
Mary.
Put your sarcasm detection on!
It a guardian article.
It’s total plucky Ukraine narrative.
None of these churnalists actually give a damn about the futility of the carnage.
I don’t remember a single question about the buffoon Johnson bidet that stopped the peace talks.
The guardian is a revolting rag.

Posted by: jpc | Sep 4 2023 9:45 utc | 279

Being sanctioned must be having an effect on journalistic standards at RT:
“A Su-35 was reportedly used to launch a Kinzhal missile amid the conflict with Ukraine”
https://www.rt.com/russia/582327-kinzhal-hypersonic-new-platform/
The article then pictures an Su-34, a larger aircraft better suited to the job, unlike the smaller and lighter Su-35.
If only the editors at RT had bothered checking in with their TASS colleagues. It seems they didn’t have any trouble reporting things correctly:
https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/18647287?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop
“The Su-34 multifunctional supersonic fighter-bomber used the Kinzhal hypersonic missile during a special operation in Ukraine” (machine translation)

Posted by: Rubiconned | Sep 4 2023 9:46 utc | 281

Britain’s Prince Andrew accused of sexual abuse during visit to Ukraine
https://www.news9live.com/world/britains-prince-andrew-accused-of-sexual-abuse-during-visit-to-ukraine-2271914

Posted by: Menz | Sep 4 2023 9:58 utc | 283

more meat for Slava Cocaini – tass.com/world/1669287
“Polish authorities have started extraditing to the Ukrainian authorities men of conscription age who illegally left Ukraine since February 24, 2022 (…) Rzeczpospolita says that after crossing the Polish-Ukrainian border, about 80 thousand Ukrainians might have not been listed.”

Posted by: rk | Sep 4 2023 10:15 utc | 285

Meet Ukraine’s new Defense Minister:
!!!NSFW warning!!!
https://twitter.com/Alex_Oloyede2/status/1698471702814986287?t=sBlpJ7oW8V7iDPd1mmi-EA&s=19
Not sure if it’s a genuine video, but it seems Rustem Umerov and Hunter Biden both share a similar passion for filming themselves in acts of depravity and… ahem… passion.

Posted by: Rubiconned | Sep 4 2023 10:38 utc | 287

Putin meets Erdogan today. What is the guessing on the outcome of that? Grain deal back on?

Posted by: Ed4 | Sep 4 2023 10:49 utc | 289

The Americans don’t quite get it do they ?
From the human shit media of the child sniffing rapist Biden to the so called alternative media of Rogan and Timcast they all spew the same narrative.
It is ok to occupy other nations and kill their citizens as they are America land of child rapists, mutilators and devaints.
No matter left or right the filthy bankrupt nation thinks everyone who thinks they are dirty corrupt satanic shit stained pigs of the oligarchs is a communist or socialist or terrorist.
They don’t get that the scum are despised across the globe and their media perverts a joke.
Get out of Europe america as your dirty paedo war criminal stink smells of nazi paedo Nuland and her Kagan mental mincer piss.
No one likes you American shit so fck off you filthy animals.
#BidenShit

Posted by: Timbo | Sep 4 2023 11:16 utc | 291

1945.com has an article Aug 18 detailing the extensive modernisation of previous model tanks for the poster concerned about not enough new tanks.

Posted by: Jo | Sep 4 2023 11:19 utc | 293

@SCCC, I understand your concern about ASIO monitoring all posts. I’m careful not to say anything over the line like asking people to do such actions, though if such actions took place I wouldn’t be sad. And to the ASIO guys reading this I’m not a terror threat but if I can see vulnerabilities and targets then so can others who might just want revenge for any relative that is killed back there by these drones. Must be 100,000 people here in Australia with ties to Russia and how many might have lost a loved one in the 9 years since this mess started?
I’m a security officer and I’m well aware of the stupid OPSEC and PERSEC that exists in the Australian defence manufacturing industry. Took me 5 minutes to find the drone manufacturers head office address, the factory address and multiple internal photos of the factory as it was being constructed. Also a bit more searching to obtain names and home addresses of various employees. No, I don’t doxx them, but they needed to consider how dumb they are to put themselves in harms way selling killing machines in a war that Australia has no business being involved in.

Posted by: Neal | Sep 4 2023 11:35 utc | 295

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Sep 4 2023 2:18 utc | 111
Wait! Are you saying you were in the team that first worked on GUI and mouse pointer when you were at PARC? May I ask what you were doing there? You made history? 🙂
As a software developer who created his own graphical environment in Turbo C on a Dos PC in 1990 from scratch, by touching the video memory with bit masks for speed, offering mouse handling, menus and icons, which I had named Lightwin, I’m a bit curious.

Posted by: Stephane | Sep 4 2023 11:53 utc | 297

Neal | Sep 4 2023 11:35 utc | 149
Your call about your own risk. But even what you just wrote is enough you get you listed by admitting SYMPATHIES towards such actors … especially mentioning tracing the factory layout and personnel. You merely SUGGESTED the POSSIBILTY of industrial sabotage. A theoretical suggestion itself may not be illegal, but they don’t even like your thinking about it! Through your sympathies, you might have contacts more serious than you! This is THEIR mindset.
And yes, I too, deep down, hate the way Australia supports the US and Ukrainian fuckers. The thing is, Australians are too ignorant and complacent to make political statements about it these days, let alone actually interfere! Eg, even if you just placarded outside that very factory, you’d be put on a watch list.
These days, the threashold against social activism is very, very low. Try walking around an abattoir or chicken farm these days. Cameras everywhere. Police will pick you up in fear of industrial sabotage. If they find a browsing history of the drone premises on your computer, you’ll have a lot of explaining to do.
Cheers, stay safe.

Posted by: SCCC | Sep 4 2023 12:07 utc | 299