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The MoA Week In Review – (Not Ukraine) OT 2023-208
Last week's post on Moon of Alabama:
Someone should tell the Chinophobe lunatics at the NY Times that the New York Metropolitan Transport Authority and the U.S. Department of Homeland Security since 2001 have a copyrighted campaign called "If You See Something, Say Something®".
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Other issues:
Empire:
Ukrainian corruption:
Ivan Katchanovski @I_Katchanovski – 7:27 PM · Sep 2, 2023
Zelensky-controlled SBU & GPU charge his ex-patron on his order to placate his current patron, Biden administration, which de facto controls NABU anticorruption agency in Ukraine, before Zelensky's US visit: "Ukraine's main security agency accused tycoon Ihor Kolomoisky of fraud and money laundering on Saturday, naming one of the country's most prominent businessmen a suspect in a criminal investigation."
Ukrainian tycoon Ihor Kolomoisky detained in fraud case
Ukrainian Nazism:
Middle East:
Wimps:
Use as open (not Ukraine related) thread …
For those interested and following events in the Sahel, here is what the Burkina Faso PM said to his staff today about sovereignity, dangers of terrorism and imperilaism, democracy and the coups in Niger and Gabon:
https://burkina24.com/2023/09/04/la-souverainete-politique-du-burkina-faso-est-actuellement-pleine-et-entiere-me-apollinaire-kyelem-de-tambela/
machine translation –
The political sovereignty of Burkina Faso is currently full and complete
As they have been wont to do every first Monday of the month workers of the Primature gathered around the Prime Minister this Monday, September 4, 2023 in Ouagadougou.
In front of his collaborators, Me Apollinaire Kyelem de Tambela, suggested that the Country of Men of Integrity is at a decisive turning point in its history to regain its long-sought sovereignty. “Because this sovereignty is currently threatened not only by terrorism but by international imperialism.
For terrorism, as you know, we are engaged in this struggle and we believe that soon it will be won. As for international imperialism, you yourselves are witnessing these latest upheavals both here in Burkina Faso and in the subregion,” he said.
Many Burkinabè ask themselves if the sovereignty of which they speak, do they live it in their actions and gestures and especially in their decision-making. “In any case, since the government of President Traore, no power can interfere in the decisions we take. The decisions that are made are made freely in all sovereignty. We can be wrong, but we freely take them for the sake of our country and our people. In this regard, I can guarantee you, the political sovereignty of Burkina Faso is currently full and complete,” he assured.
However, he says, that he cannot reassure that this sovereignty will remain intact as it is today. For him, everything will depend on those who will come after the transition, whether they will want to walk in the furrows that they are tracing. “If they do not have the same motivation, imperialism can return perhaps only in a stronger way,” he argued.
The head of the Burkinabe Executive reflected on the coups in Niger and Gabon. “But in the subregion, you saw that there was a coup d’état in Niger. And in the name of democracy, some are ready to fight a battle to put the deposed former president in his place. So I would like to tell you one thing: when we talk about democracy, we must not let you be deceived (…).
Because there are some who are in bad faith. And who speak of democracy only to seek to abuse others to achieve their end. Democracy, all societies have always lived in democracy. Since the human being constituted the first family unit, democracy was there,” he maintained.
He added that all societies regardless of the form of power are constituted on the basis of democracy. According to the Prime Minister, you cannot become a leader of any village if you do not have the consent of your subjects. “You cannot be a monarch if you do not have the consent of your subjects. Before the colonial penetration, we had social organizations, we lived in harmony, because there was democracy (…).
Now what they want us to believe is that there is only one form of democracy in the world and that everyone must go towards that democracy. That’s not true. Even those who try to make us believe it at home, they have several forms of democracies. France is a republic, the United Kingdom is a monarchy, if you take Denmark, Sweden, the Netherlands, Belgium, they are monarchies. The USA is a republic but organized differently from France. Germany is a republic but organized differently from France. Why shouldn’t we have the right to organize ourselves the way we want? “, he questioned.
He continued: “Why is it for someone else to come and tell us how we should organize ourselves? (…) You have seen that after the coup d’état in Niger, they wanted to form an international army to fight and restore Bazoum. There was a coup d’état in Gabon, we don’t have all this fuss. Where is the French president, the president who has set himself up as a warlord to fight and restore the overthrown president of Niger? What’s he saying? What does he make of what is happening in Gabon? So there would be democratic coups and non-democratic coups? “, wonders the PM.
Posted by: JB | Sep 4 2023 13:10 utc | 105
For those interested and following events in the Sahel, here is what the Burkina Faso PM said to his staff today about sovereignity, dangers of terrorism and imperilaism, democracy and the coups in Niger and Gabon:
https://burkina24.com/2023/09/04/la-souverainete-politique-du-burkina-faso-est-actuellement-pleine-et-entiere-me-apollinaire-kyelem-de-tambela/
machine translation –
The political sovereignty of Burkina Faso is currently full and complete
As they have been wont to do every first Monday of the month workers of the Primature gathered around the Prime Minister this Monday, September 4, 2023 in Ouagadougou.
In front of his collaborators, Me Apollinaire Kyelem de Tambela, suggested that the Country of Men of Integrity is at a decisive turning point in its history to regain its long-sought sovereignty. “Because this sovereignty is currently threatened not only by terrorism but by international imperialism.
For terrorism, as you know, we are engaged in this struggle and we believe that soon it will be won. As for international imperialism, you yourselves are witnessing these latest upheavals both here in Burkina Faso and in the subregion,” he said.
Many Burkinabè ask themselves if the sovereignty of which they speak, do they live it in their actions and gestures and especially in their decision-making. “In any case, since the government of President Traore, no power can interfere in the decisions we take. The decisions that are made are made freely in all sovereignty. We can be wrong, but we freely take them for the sake of our country and our people. In this regard, I can guarantee you, the political sovereignty of Burkina Faso is currently full and complete,” he assured.
However, he says, that he cannot reassure that this sovereignty will remain intact as it is today. For him, everything will depend on those who will come after the transition, whether they will want to walk in the furrows that they are tracing. “If they do not have the same motivation, imperialism can return perhaps only in a stronger way,” he argued.
The head of the Burkinabe Executive reflected on the coups in Niger and Gabon. “But in the subregion, you saw that there was a coup d’état in Niger. And in the name of democracy, some are ready to fight a battle to put the deposed former president in his place. So I would like to tell you one thing: when we talk about democracy, we must not let you be deceived (…).
Because there are some who are in bad faith. And who speak of democracy only to seek to abuse others to achieve their end. Democracy, all societies have always lived in democracy. Since the human being constituted the first family unit, democracy was there,” he maintained.
He added that all societies regardless of the form of power are constituted on the basis of democracy. According to the Prime Minister, you cannot become a leader of any village if you do not have the consent of your subjects. “You cannot be a monarch if you do not have the consent of your subjects. Before the colonial penetration, we had social organizations, we lived in harmony, because there was democracy (…).
Now what they want us to believe is that there is only one form of democracy in the world and that everyone must go towards that democracy. That’s not true. Even those who try to make us believe it at home, they have several forms of democracies. France is a republic, the United Kingdom is a monarchy, if you take Denmark, Sweden, the Netherlands, Belgium, they are monarchies. The USA is a republic but organized differently from France. Germany is a republic but organized differently from France. Why shouldn’t we have the right to organize ourselves the way we want? “, he questioned.
He continued: “Why is it for someone else to come and tell us how we should organize ourselves? (…) You have seen that after the coup d’état in Niger, they wanted to form an international army to fight and restore Bazoum. There was a coup d’état in Gabon, we don’t have all this fuss. Where is the French president, the president who has set himself up as a warlord to fight and restore the overthrown president of Niger? What’s he saying? What does he make of what is happening in Gabon? So there would be democratic coups and non-democratic coups? “, wonders the PM.
Posted by: JB | Sep 4 2023 13:10 utc | 106
A final piece having read Measheimer.
‘Regrettably, there is no diplomatic solution in sight. There are irreconcilable differences between the two sides over security guarantees for Ukraine and territory, which stand in the way of a meaningful peace agreement. For understandable reasons, Ukraine is deeply committed to getting back all the land it has lost to Russia, which includes Crimea and the Donetsk, Kherson, Luhansk, and Zaporizhzhia oblasts. But Moscow has already annexed those territories and made it clear that it has no intention of returning them to Kyiv.’
https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/bound-to-lose
Jeez that Measheimer is a total dork. He has been plain wrong so many times and is so keen to move onto the China War, that he is hoping the Russia mess can be put gently down and forgiven by the Russians!
It can’t, this was started by us, juggling with knives. Russians have had to take casualties by the hundreds and thousands, yet again this century as the previous ones. There can be no easy forgiving and forgetting.
“For understandable reasons, Ukraine is deeply committed to getting back all the land it has lost to Russia,..”
No you dumb dickhead John, it isn’t “understandable”.
All the land it has lost to Russia was Russian Land first, before the borderlands were just a twinkle in the natzionist eyes. A bastard country born like a clay golem with the hands of the Bankers moll Lenin. Invasion of Russia by endless proxies, Napoleon, Japanese samurai hirelings, Hitlers Germans, the Nazi collaborators.
When that failed a further equally ‘understandable’ (i.e NOT!) donation by Kruschev, the collapse of the USSR and being sold down the river by Yeltsin and Gorbachev. Even after the Yalta concessions and the 20 millions of dead !
No wonder the hate mill has been run not only against Putin, as if he has total control all by himself, but also against that largest still largely naturally pristine country and all its peoples and institutions- a demented, scapegoating, for the failure of yet another attempt to ‘Take Russia’.
They have ‘lost’ as much land (much more even) to the Wests Bankers and Financiers, through a capture of their parliament and forced legislation allowing sale of Ukrainian lands to foreigners. Which had failed in the Rada at every attempt since its creation! It only succeeded under their wooden boy muppet after banning most of the opposition politicians, that it has somehow become Law.
The pounds of flesh (massive lands) that will be demanded as ‘due’ under these dodgy contracts once the ‘war’ ends as was expected with partition. The Bankers were ready to move in with their ‘reconstruction’ contracts and further forever debt.
The Russians haven’t obliged them with that quick end. Taking their time to slowly ever so generously giving them a never ending screwing.
For the Land Grabbing Western Invader Bankers , the only problem was the peasants who had lived and worked these lands were probably not going to accept it standing up or laying down. Same as any other continent they invaded.
So they had to be permanently made to lay down below these lands that were theirs. The usual genocide of whole populations. Now it’s not just the disappeared menfolk who will never return to reclaim , but their daughters, wives and sisters who are to be equally called up and fed into the mincer. Can’t have any genetic claimants can they?
“Regrettably, there is no diplomatic solution in sight.” JM whines!
What? Wtf? The diplomatic solutions have been agreed – all be it in bad faith, Minsk one and two and even after the provoked war in Turkey by that slippery oiled up wrestler Erdo, last year as mere feints not to be honoured.
Looks like the wannabe sultan is expected to do the same again. And Russians, and the others who have attempted to intervene and bring the folly to an end are supposed to watch and believe and let the dodging ice cream seller and still a committed Western Natzo Asset make another attempt at hoodwinking the Russian peoples.
Fool me once, twice ..etc.
“It is hard to imagine, for example, the US taking its gunsights off Russia in the foreseeable future.”
Mearsheimer finishes with that gem – admitting perhaps surreptitiously as to why the US was CREATED in the first place- because mere Europeans couldn’t achieve that long dreamed goal ever since the East and West schism was induced by the remnant Roman Empire that became the yoke on Europe and then the rest of our world.
The Yanks were and are just some mongrel bred zombie dog soldiers of that Holly Roman Empires. The individualism and free enterprise bs was always a cover. As much as religions freedom.
So talk as much as he wants , the truth is that the grand old scheme is an ever decreasing spiral down the plug hole of history to join the effluent stream.
John can dream of being saved by a lie of a peace or a new front against his favourite enemy , China, because that’s what his life’s work has been about. But, and it is massive now, China and Russia, Xi and Putin and all their fellow countrymen and women who know history, know what to expect , and how proxies are created and poor peoples are exploited to fight the wars of the natzios Collective Wastes Owners and Bankers – they have carefully put all the pieces in place over the last 25 years knowing what was coming again as guaranteed as the Earth turning and its celestial orbit bringing the seasons – this time it’s for keeps.
Xi ain’t going nor is Putin to the losers G20!
So he can go cry about blitzes and manoeuvres and National Interests , no one is interested in moving the fight to China to the next last proxy numbskulls, except Measlyhammer.
Posted by: DunGroanin | Sep 5 2023 11:14 utc | 161
A final piece having read Measheimer.
‘Regrettably, there is no diplomatic solution in sight. There are irreconcilable differences between the two sides over security guarantees for Ukraine and territory, which stand in the way of a meaningful peace agreement. For understandable reasons, Ukraine is deeply committed to getting back all the land it has lost to Russia, which includes Crimea and the Donetsk, Kherson, Luhansk, and Zaporizhzhia oblasts. But Moscow has already annexed those territories and made it clear that it has no intention of returning them to Kyiv.’
https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/bound-to-lose
Jeez that Measheimer is a total dork. He has been plain wrong so many times and is so keen to move onto the China War, that he is hoping the Russia mess can be put gently down and forgiven by the Russians!
It can’t, this was started by us, juggling with knives. Russians have had to take casualties by the hundreds and thousands, yet again this century as the previous ones. There can be no easy forgiving and forgetting.
“For understandable reasons, Ukraine is deeply committed to getting back all the land it has lost to Russia,..”
No you dumb dickhead John, it isn’t “understandable”.
All the land it has lost to Russia was Russian Land first, before the borderlands were just a twinkle in the natzionist eyes. A bastard country born like a clay golem with the hands of the Bankers moll Lenin. Invasion of Russia by endless proxies, Napoleon, Japanese samurai hirelings, Hitlers Germans, the Nazi collaborators.
When that failed a further equally ‘understandable’ (i.e NOT!) donation by Kruschev, the collapse of the USSR and being sold down the river by Yeltsin and Gorbachev. Even after the Yalta concessions and the 20 millions of dead !
No wonder the hate mill has been run not only against Putin, as if he has total control all by himself, but also against that largest still largely naturally pristine country and all its peoples and institutions- a demented, scapegoating, for the failure of yet another attempt to ‘Take Russia’.
They have ‘lost’ as much land (much more even) to the Wests Bankers and Financiers, through a capture of their parliament and forced legislation allowing sale of Ukrainian lands to foreigners. Which had failed in the Rada at every attempt since its creation! It only succeeded under their wooden boy muppet after banning most of the opposition politicians, that it has somehow become Law.
The pounds of flesh (massive lands) that will be demanded as ‘due’ under these dodgy contracts once the ‘war’ ends as was expected with partition. The Bankers were ready to move in with their ‘reconstruction’ contracts and further forever debt.
The Russians haven’t obliged them with that quick end. Taking their time to slowly ever so generously giving them a never ending screwing.
For the Land Grabbing Western Invader Bankers , the only problem was the peasants who had lived and worked these lands were probably not going to accept it standing up or laying down. Same as any other continent they invaded.
So they had to be permanently made to lay down below these lands that were theirs. The usual genocide of whole populations. Now it’s not just the disappeared menfolk who will never return to reclaim , but their daughters, wives and sisters who are to be equally called up and fed into the mincer. Can’t have any genetic claimants can they?
“Regrettably, there is no diplomatic solution in sight.” JM whines!
What? Wtf? The diplomatic solutions have been agreed – all be it in bad faith, Minsk one and two and even after the provoked war in Turkey by that slippery oiled up wrestler Erdo, last year as mere feints not to be honoured.
Looks like the wannabe sultan is expected to do the same again. And Russians, and the others who have attempted to intervene and bring the folly to an end are supposed to watch and believe and let the dodging ice cream seller and still a committed Western Natzo Asset make another attempt at hoodwinking the Russian peoples.
Fool me once, twice ..etc.
“It is hard to imagine, for example, the US taking its gunsights off Russia in the foreseeable future.”
Mearsheimer finishes with that gem – admitting perhaps surreptitiously as to why the US was CREATED in the first place- because mere Europeans couldn’t achieve that long dreamed goal ever since the East and West schism was induced by the remnant Roman Empire that became the yoke on Europe and then the rest of our world.
The Yanks were and are just some mongrel bred zombie dog soldiers of that Holly Roman Empires. The individualism and free enterprise bs was always a cover. As much as religions freedom.
So talk as much as he wants , the truth is that the grand old scheme is an ever decreasing spiral down the plug hole of history to join the effluent stream.
John can dream of being saved by a lie of a peace or a new front against his favourite enemy , China, because that’s what his life’s work has been about. But, and it is massive now, China and Russia, Xi and Putin and all their fellow countrymen and women who know history, know what to expect , and how proxies are created and poor peoples are exploited to fight the wars of the natzios Collective Wastes Owners and Bankers – they have carefully put all the pieces in place over the last 25 years knowing what was coming again as guaranteed as the Earth turning and its celestial orbit bringing the seasons – this time it’s for keeps.
Xi ain’t going nor is Putin to the losers G20!
So he can go cry about blitzes and manoeuvres and National Interests , no one is interested in moving the fight to China to the next last proxy numbskulls, except Measlyhammer.
Posted by: DunGroanin | Sep 5 2023 11:14 utc | 162
Let’s see if Xi goes to UNGA.
Posted by: smuks | Sep 4 2023 22:48 utc | 70
The answer, no, is already out. Neither are Modi and Sunak. Hopefully, RU’s delegation will arrive without incident, unlike last year. 5 Sep is the first day of the 78th plenary session’s ceremonial events ending 26 Sep. Have you seen any MSM press heralding Xi’s scheduled arrival? Me, neither.
Li Qiang will attend the 26th China-ASEAN Summit, the 26th ASEAN (BN, KH, ID, LA, MY, MM, PH, SG, TH, VN, TL) Plus Three (“dialogue” partners: CN, JP, KR) Summit, and the 18th East Asia Summit (EAS: ASEAN + CN, RU, IN, KR, US, AU, JP, NZ heads of state “observers”). Xi will not, fmprc has stated repeatedly.
Though not officially confirmed, Xi is unlikely to attend APEC (CN, CN-hk, CN-tw, RU, ID, SG, VN, TH, PH, MX, PE, CL, BN, PG, MY, KR; US, AU, JP, NZ, CA). APEC’s FM meeting, dominated by US-Ukraine anti-Russia Price Cap Coalition sanctions as was the case in 2022 for this and every other “multilateral” summit in which G7 participated, failed to produce unanimous agreement. Li Qiang likely will lead China’s delegation to maintain “OPEN LINES OF COMMUNICATION”™.
Biden and Putin skipped the November 2022 APEC meeting in Bangkok, but in Feb 2023, despite “spy balloon” fallout and before Blinken’s, Macron’s, Yellen’s, and Raimondo’s disaster meetings in Beijing and relentless derision for China’s “peace plan”, Time magazine predicted
Xi may [LOL!] visit the U.N. General Assembly in New York in September and will almost certainly [LOL!] attend the APEC summit in San Francisco in November. The opportunity for Xi to peg a long overdue [LOL!] first state visit to Washington onto either event is clear should the political will exist. (Despite visiting the U.S. eight times as a Chinese official of various rank [?!], Xi has never made a state visit during his decade as [p]resident.)
The salient point that some turnips miss by mindlessly repeating G7 assumptions about the “relevance” of and “division” within the G20 conference is this: the global south portion of post-WWII “rules-based order” has already established alternate forums of cooperation that exclude G7. G20 today by any other name of intergovernmental development “threat” to G7 “national security” such as SCO, BRICS, ASEAN, BOA, CP-TPP is this:FR, DE, IT, ES, JP, UK, US, EU-CO, EU-EC, AU, CA, AR, BR, CN, ID, IN, KR, MX, RU, TR, SA, ZA + AE, EG, and ET.
So. Why would Xi Jinping attend the 78th UNGA?
Posted by: sln2002 | Sep 5 2023 13:44 utc | 167
Let’s see if Xi goes to UNGA.
Posted by: smuks | Sep 4 2023 22:48 utc | 70
The answer, no, is already out. Neither are Modi and Sunak. Hopefully, RU’s delegation will arrive without incident, unlike last year. 5 Sep is the first day of the 78th plenary session’s ceremonial events ending 26 Sep. Have you seen any MSM press heralding Xi’s scheduled arrival? Me, neither.
Li Qiang will attend the 26th China-ASEAN Summit, the 26th ASEAN (BN, KH, ID, LA, MY, MM, PH, SG, TH, VN, TL) Plus Three (“dialogue” partners: CN, JP, KR) Summit, and the 18th East Asia Summit (EAS: ASEAN + CN, RU, IN, KR, US, AU, JP, NZ heads of state “observers”). Xi will not, fmprc has stated repeatedly.
Though not officially confirmed, Xi is unlikely to attend APEC (CN, CN-hk, CN-tw, RU, ID, SG, VN, TH, PH, MX, PE, CL, BN, PG, MY, KR; US, AU, JP, NZ, CA). APEC’s FM meeting, dominated by US-Ukraine anti-Russia Price Cap Coalition sanctions as was the case in 2022 for this and every other “multilateral” summit in which G7 participated, failed to produce unanimous agreement. Li Qiang likely will lead China’s delegation to maintain “OPEN LINES OF COMMUNICATION”™.
Biden and Putin skipped the November 2022 APEC meeting in Bangkok, but in Feb 2023, despite “spy balloon” fallout and before Blinken’s, Macron’s, Yellen’s, and Raimondo’s disaster meetings in Beijing and relentless derision for China’s “peace plan”, Time magazine predicted
Xi may [LOL!] visit the U.N. General Assembly in New York in September and will almost certainly [LOL!] attend the APEC summit in San Francisco in November. The opportunity for Xi to peg a long overdue [LOL!] first state visit to Washington onto either event is clear should the political will exist. (Despite visiting the U.S. eight times as a Chinese official of various rank [?!], Xi has never made a state visit during his decade as [p]resident.)
The salient point that some turnips miss by mindlessly repeating G7 assumptions about the “relevance” of and “division” within the G20 conference is this: the global south portion of post-WWII “rules-based order” has already established alternate forums of cooperation that exclude G7. G20 today by any other name of intergovernmental development “threat” to G7 “national security” such as SCO, BRICS, ASEAN, BOA, CP-TPP is this:FR, DE, IT, ES, JP, UK, US, EU-CO, EU-EC, AU, CA, AR, BR, CN, ID, IN, KR, MX, RU, TR, SA, ZA + AE, EG, and ET.
So. Why would Xi Jinping attend the 78th UNGA?
Posted by: sln2002 | Sep 5 2023 13:44 utc | 168
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