Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
September 14, 2023
Russia Is Winning The Industrial Warfare Race

Last year I mocked the media for claiming that 'Russia is running out of' whatever.

> Back in March I had warned that Lies Do Not Win Wars. Here is another practical example.

After allegedly having 'run out of missiles' and, more importantly, patience, the leadership of the Russian Federation decided to de-electrify Ukrainian cities with a 'barrage of missile strikes'. <

Western military commentators have finally started to accept the obvious. Russia is winning and doing so by a large margin.

A similar turn can be seen in dearth of new 'Russia is running out of' stories which get now replaced by acknowledgements that Russia's weapon industries are out-producing the West:

Russia Overcomes Sanctions to Expand Missile Production, Officials SayNY Times
Moscow’s missile production now exceeds prewar levels, officials say, leaving Ukraine especially vulnerable this coming winter.

As a result of the sanctions, American officials estimate that Russia was forced to dramatically slow its production of missiles and other weaponry at the start of the war in February 2022 for at least six months. But by the end of 2022, Moscow’s military industrial manufacturing began to pick up speed again, American officials who spoke on condition of anonymity to disclose the sensitive assessment now concede.

Before the war, one senior Western defense official said, Russia could make 100 tanks a year; now they are producing 200.

Western officials also believe Russia is on track to manufacture two million artillery shells a year — double the amount Western intelligence services had initially estimated Russia could manufacture before the war.

As a result of the push, Russia is now producing more ammunition than the United States and Europe. Overall, Kusti Salm, a senior Estonian defense ministry official, estimated that Russia’s current ammunition production is seven times greater than that of the West.

Russia’s production costs are also far lower than the West’s, in part because Moscow is sacrificing safety and quality in its effort to build weapons more cheaply, Mr. Salm said. For instance, it costs a Western country $5,000 to $6,000 to make a 155-millimeter artillery round, whereas it costs Russia about $600 to produce a comparable 152-millimeter artillery shell, he said.

I believe that the numbers of current weapon production in Russia, which the New York Times cites, are too low. Consider that back in February the former Russian president Dmitry Medvedev spoke of an 'exponential increase' in weapon output:

Medvedev said Moscow had increased military production "by tens of times" at some factories and was closely studying weapons fired into Russian-held areas from the Ukrainian side in an effort to gain an advantage.

I would also argue that sanctions were never really able to hinder Russia's arms industry. No military uses the latest and greatest chips when it comes to making weapons. Putting sanctioning on those is thus pretty useless. Some old Intel 80386 compatible CPU is, correctly programmed, sufficient to manage a modern artillery system. For little money one can get thousands of these in any Asian electronic market.

There are a few exceptions that need special stuff. For some time Russia was behind in the production of night vision equipment. It imported some from France which blocked further transfers. But that issues seems to have been solved. For basic materials and energy Russia has all it needs. It also has well qualified staff to develop and build new weapons.

Five years ago the Russian President Vladimir Putin revealed a number of new weapon systems which were superior to western ones. He also mentioned that same of these were based on "new physical principles" which had been discovered by Russian scientists. At the recent Eastern Economic Forum he repeated that claim:

If one looks into the security sphere, new physical principles weapons will ensure the security of any country in the near historic perspective. We understand this very well and are working on it, Putin said.

(I don't find those sentences in the plenum transcript but trust Sputnik to have it right.)

There is some guessing what Putin might have meant. I thought about it for quite a while but have to admit that I have no clue what he has in mind.

A warning that Russia will outproduce the West was given back in June 2022 when Alex Vershinin of RUSI issued a note about The Return of Industrial Warfare:

The winner in a prolonged war between two near-peer powers is still based on which side has the strongest industrial base. A country must either have the manufacturing capacity to build massive quantities of ammunition or have other manufacturing industries that can be rapidly converted to ammunition production. Unfortunately, the West no longer seems to have either.

It has become to expensive for the West to regain that capability.

That Russia was running out of stuff was always wishful thinking, not fact based analysis. On that point it took the media more than a year to catch up with reality. On other aspects of the the war, casualty numbers come to mind, the media are still miles behind.

Comments

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 14 2023 22:13 utc | 132
Don’t think all people conform to Western liberal cultural portrays of soymanity, there is a surprisingly large, given the relentless 24/7 full spectrum campaign waged in favour of infantilism, group of people who reject our ‘masters’ behavioural template, favouring a more traditional approach.
I saw the shrug twofold. A response to a damn fool question and a continuance of the opaque strategy Russia has followed since day one of the SMO. Though not telling the Russian airforce what the plan was for D day until the last 24-48 hours was a trifle over-zealous.

Posted by: Milites | Sep 14 2023 23:30 utc | 301

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 14 2023 22:13 utc | 132
Don’t think all people conform to Western liberal cultural portrays of soymanity, there is a surprisingly large, given the relentless 24/7 full spectrum campaign waged in favour of infantilism, group of people who reject our ‘masters’ behavioural template, favouring a more traditional approach.
I saw the shrug twofold. A response to a damn fool question and a continuance of the opaque strategy Russia has followed since day one of the SMO. Though not telling the Russian airforce what the plan was for D day until the last 24-48 hours was a trifle over-zealous.

Posted by: Milites | Sep 14 2023 23:30 utc | 302

@19 ohhCanada who says “The Russians are not being slowly boiled into major escalation the general population of the west is.” Last time it was the end of the 19twenties into ww2. About 15-20 years before they manufactured a co hort desperate enough to join. Probly happen in half that time today. Buckle up peeps the West is gonna go steampunk 3rd world. On purpose.

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Sep 14 2023 23:33 utc | 303

@19 ohhCanada who says “The Russians are not being slowly boiled into major escalation the general population of the west is.” Last time it was the end of the 19twenties into ww2. About 15-20 years before they manufactured a co hort desperate enough to join. Probly happen in half that time today. Buckle up peeps the West is gonna go steampunk 3rd world. On purpose.

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Sep 14 2023 23:33 utc | 304

@19 ohhCanada who says “The Russians are not being slowly boiled into major escalation the general population of the west is.” Last time it was the end of the 19twenties into ww2. About 15-20 years before they manufactured a co hort desperate enough to join. Probly happen in half that time today. Buckle up peeps the West is gonna go steampunk 3rd world. On purpose.

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Sep 14 2023 23:35 utc | 305

@19 ohhCanada who says “The Russians are not being slowly boiled into major escalation the general population of the west is.” Last time it was the end of the 19twenties into ww2. About 15-20 years before they manufactured a co hort desperate enough to join. Probly happen in half that time today. Buckle up peeps the West is gonna go steampunk 3rd world. On purpose.

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Sep 14 2023 23:35 utc | 306

Posted by: Golddigger | Sep 14 2023 16:23 utc | 58
One of the reasons the US canceled the F22 Raptor was lack of spare parts and nobody knew how to design the tooling needed to manufacture the needed parts
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They are what they accuse the Russians of, corrupt. Look at how many times after billions in “development” programs were dropped. How long and how much did they spend working on the rail gun. WTF good is a rail gun?
the fighter jets overheat because it’s more profitable to use 1 engine instead of 2. Look at the Russian helicopters vrs the western ones, our boys are flying around in junk from the 70’s. We are behind in every aspect
http://www.military-today.com/life/10_expensive_us_militarys_projects_that_failed.htm
Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II – Cost $1.5 Trillion
Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI) – Cost $30 Billion

Posted by: OohCanada | Sep 14 2023 23:39 utc | 307

Posted by: Golddigger | Sep 14 2023 16:23 utc | 58
One of the reasons the US canceled the F22 Raptor was lack of spare parts and nobody knew how to design the tooling needed to manufacture the needed parts
——————————————————————
They are what they accuse the Russians of, corrupt. Look at how many times after billions in “development” programs were dropped. How long and how much did they spend working on the rail gun. WTF good is a rail gun?
the fighter jets overheat because it’s more profitable to use 1 engine instead of 2. Look at the Russian helicopters vrs the western ones, our boys are flying around in junk from the 70’s. We are behind in every aspect
http://www.military-today.com/life/10_expensive_us_militarys_projects_that_failed.htm
Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II – Cost $1.5 Trillion
Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI) – Cost $30 Billion

Posted by: OohCanada | Sep 14 2023 23:39 utc | 308

Milites @ 148

The missile corvettes have navalised versions of the S-400 and Pantsir so hardly defenceless. More harum-scarum narratives I fear.

Supposedly the Moskva was refurbished with all the latest hardware. It’s not the isolated narratives that scare it’s the incessant, relentless escalation. When you look back, back to at least 1997, you see it has been one long juggernaut. The Russians aren’t the only ones with patience.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 14 2023 23:43 utc | 309

Milites @ 148

The missile corvettes have navalised versions of the S-400 and Pantsir so hardly defenceless. More harum-scarum narratives I fear.

Supposedly the Moskva was refurbished with all the latest hardware. It’s not the isolated narratives that scare it’s the incessant, relentless escalation. When you look back, back to at least 1997, you see it has been one long juggernaut. The Russians aren’t the only ones with patience.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 14 2023 23:43 utc | 310

Apologies for any double post, I keep getting error messages, bloody annoying.
Just to go back to my theory that the Crimea strike was to help Mr Z, looks like he’s not convinced so he’s taking his tin up around to beg from countries outside the Western bloc. Wonder if he’ll ever return?
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/14/zelenskyy-heading-to-new-york-to-court-the-rest-of-the-world-00115760
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 14 2023 23:26 utc | 150
The Russians must, if conservative production estimates are used, have stockpiled hundreds of ALCM’s and SLCM’s so I think they’ll let the missiles do the heavy lifting, but agree that NATO are probably going to pay full price for their hubris.

Posted by: Milites | Sep 14 2023 23:47 utc | 311

Apologies for any double post, I keep getting error messages, bloody annoying.
Just to go back to my theory that the Crimea strike was to help Mr Z, looks like he’s not convinced so he’s taking his tin up around to beg from countries outside the Western bloc. Wonder if he’ll ever return?
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/14/zelenskyy-heading-to-new-york-to-court-the-rest-of-the-world-00115760
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 14 2023 23:26 utc | 150
The Russians must, if conservative production estimates are used, have stockpiled hundreds of ALCM’s and SLCM’s so I think they’ll let the missiles do the heavy lifting, but agree that NATO are probably going to pay full price for their hubris.

Posted by: Milites | Sep 14 2023 23:47 utc | 312

If the Russians would want to get nasty, they could source some Hellfire missiles from the Taleban and install them onto drones which could be launched from cargo ships. And hit some US subs in dock yards. The drones would vanish into the sea.
The thing is, stationary targets like dry docks are very easy to hit with a cruise missile. Even Ukraine’s 5 remaining Su-24 can muster 10 missiles which in this case could overwhelm air defense.
Safe to say, the UK or US would have even less defense against such a strike.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 14 2023 23:47 utc | 313

If the Russians would want to get nasty, they could source some Hellfire missiles from the Taleban and install them onto drones which could be launched from cargo ships. And hit some US subs in dock yards. The drones would vanish into the sea.
The thing is, stationary targets like dry docks are very easy to hit with a cruise missile. Even Ukraine’s 5 remaining Su-24 can muster 10 missiles which in this case could overwhelm air defense.
Safe to say, the UK or US would have even less defense against such a strike.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 14 2023 23:47 utc | 314

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 14 2023 22:50 utc | 141
“The Americans want … ”
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Lol. Well, yes, the Americans want lots of things. But here, the Russians really don’t want. So let’s see how THAT pans out.
I find it 1000% laughable that the US boffins can even IMAGINE taking Crimea/Sevastopol and maintaining any strategic kind of base there. Excuse me, but isn’t this war about keeping Ukraine demil. Crimea is closer and more Russian than the rest of Ukraine. Unless the US wants a 100 year war, it ain’t gunna happen.
The present Crimea op is just NATO *on behalf of* Ukraine’s vain fantasy of recovering Crimea. And THAT ain’t ever gunna happen either. Ukraine planned and bragged about a Crimean op last year. Remember, Zelensky talked about spending Xmas 2022 on the beach! Arestovich told him he was nuts.

Posted by: SCCC | Sep 14 2023 23:48 utc | 315

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 14 2023 22:50 utc | 141
“The Americans want … ”
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Lol. Well, yes, the Americans want lots of things. But here, the Russians really don’t want. So let’s see how THAT pans out.
I find it 1000% laughable that the US boffins can even IMAGINE taking Crimea/Sevastopol and maintaining any strategic kind of base there. Excuse me, but isn’t this war about keeping Ukraine demil. Crimea is closer and more Russian than the rest of Ukraine. Unless the US wants a 100 year war, it ain’t gunna happen.
The present Crimea op is just NATO *on behalf of* Ukraine’s vain fantasy of recovering Crimea. And THAT ain’t ever gunna happen either. Ukraine planned and bragged about a Crimean op last year. Remember, Zelensky talked about spending Xmas 2022 on the beach! Arestovich told him he was nuts.

Posted by: SCCC | Sep 14 2023 23:48 utc | 316

Would Zhukov have shrugged?
Maybe it’s better this way, Shoigu a man of his time, his body language speaks to the kids with Patagonia backpacks on e-scooters racing through downtown Moscow and St. Petersburg to their jobs designing computer games.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 14 2023 23:52 utc | 317

Would Zhukov have shrugged?
Maybe it’s better this way, Shoigu a man of his time, his body language speaks to the kids with Patagonia backpacks on e-scooters racing through downtown Moscow and St. Petersburg to their jobs designing computer games.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 14 2023 23:52 utc | 318

Russia is woefully short of tranny generals.
Posted by: Sentient | Sep 14 2023 22:33 utc | 135
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You should get a job at a MIC Think Tank. Tranny Generals could be the next WunderWaffe.
Parachuting in dozens of Mark Milley clones with pink lipstick and polka dot frocks.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 14 2023 23:55 utc | 319

Russia is woefully short of tranny generals.
Posted by: Sentient | Sep 14 2023 22:33 utc | 135
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You should get a job at a MIC Think Tank. Tranny Generals could be the next WunderWaffe.
Parachuting in dozens of Mark Milley clones with pink lipstick and polka dot frocks.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 14 2023 23:55 utc | 320

All the BIG talk we’ve had to listen too from kiev over the last 18 months. It’s all come to fuck all! What was it? “We’ll be sunbathing in Crimea in August”? Total bollox!
Then it was “Russia is running out of missiles”. That was in April 2022. Its now Sept 2023. More Total Bollox!
Next we had “Putin is losing his grip in Russia”. That was June 2022. Total fuckin bollox!
Recently we’ve had “We’ll be at the sea of Azov in two weeks”. That was June this year. Total Bollox!
How much more BOLLOX do we have to listen too from these moronic orcs in kiev and their western bum boys?
THE DRINKS ARE ON ME GUYS! JUST MENTION ‘HERMIUS’ AT THE BAR AND VOILA…FREE DRINK! ENJOY!

Posted by: HERMIUS | Sep 14 2023 23:56 utc | 321

All the BIG talk we’ve had to listen too from kiev over the last 18 months. It’s all come to fuck all! What was it? “We’ll be sunbathing in Crimea in August”? Total bollox!
Then it was “Russia is running out of missiles”. That was in April 2022. Its now Sept 2023. More Total Bollox!
Next we had “Putin is losing his grip in Russia”. That was June 2022. Total fuckin bollox!
Recently we’ve had “We’ll be at the sea of Azov in two weeks”. That was June this year. Total Bollox!
How much more BOLLOX do we have to listen too from these moronic orcs in kiev and their western bum boys?
THE DRINKS ARE ON ME GUYS! JUST MENTION ‘HERMIUS’ AT THE BAR AND VOILA…FREE DRINK! ENJOY!

Posted by: HERMIUS | Sep 14 2023 23:56 utc | 322

Milites #137 and all others.
Just a little note to thank you for the most cogent and rational posts above much other dross. I have learned much from, and never disagreed with, your perceptions.

Posted by: SCCC | Sep 14 2023 23:58 utc | 323

Milites #137 and all others.
Just a little note to thank you for the most cogent and rational posts above much other dross. I have learned much from, and never disagreed with, your perceptions.

Posted by: SCCC | Sep 14 2023 23:58 utc | 324

Can’t imagine a reason why a talented engineer would accept a job with an American defense contractor. Career suicide. Only third string would take the money. Who wants to be associated with the next F-35.

I started out in aerospace and for the last 15 years have worked in the commercial sector (EE) including several startups. I can tell you the reason: if you have a narrow technical specialty that you want to pursue, aerospace is better. Also, the pace is slower and there is more of an emphasis on getting something right. An airplane manufacturer I worked for had a chemist I knew who was one of the worlds top experts on adhesives, same with radar scattering. I have never seen that kind of technical depth in a narrow subject in the commercial sector. It was a weird experience – you had these hyper-competent people swimming in a sea of mediocrity.

Posted by: ian | Sep 14 2023 23:59 utc | 325

Can’t imagine a reason why a talented engineer would accept a job with an American defense contractor. Career suicide. Only third string would take the money. Who wants to be associated with the next F-35.

I started out in aerospace and for the last 15 years have worked in the commercial sector (EE) including several startups. I can tell you the reason: if you have a narrow technical specialty that you want to pursue, aerospace is better. Also, the pace is slower and there is more of an emphasis on getting something right. An airplane manufacturer I worked for had a chemist I knew who was one of the worlds top experts on adhesives, same with radar scattering. I have never seen that kind of technical depth in a narrow subject in the commercial sector. It was a weird experience – you had these hyper-competent people swimming in a sea of mediocrity.

Posted by: ian | Sep 14 2023 23:59 utc | 326

Don’t think all people conform to Western liberal cultural portrays of soymanity, there is a surprisingly large, given the relentless 24/7 full spectrum campaign waged in favour of infantilism, group of people who reject our ‘masters’ behavioural template, favouring a more traditional approach.
Posted by: Milites | Sep 14 2023 23:30 utc | 153
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I don’t think all people conform. I think most people won’t speak up or opt out in a meaningful way.
Sentiment and talk are not substitutes for action.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 15 2023 0:01 utc | 327

Don’t think all people conform to Western liberal cultural portrays of soymanity, there is a surprisingly large, given the relentless 24/7 full spectrum campaign waged in favour of infantilism, group of people who reject our ‘masters’ behavioural template, favouring a more traditional approach.
Posted by: Milites | Sep 14 2023 23:30 utc | 153
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I don’t think all people conform. I think most people won’t speak up or opt out in a meaningful way.
Sentiment and talk are not substitutes for action.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 15 2023 0:01 utc | 328

Russia is woefully short of tranny generals.
Posted by: Sentient | Sep 14 2023 22:33 utc | 135
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And omg, that Cirillo thing. I just can’t believe that people in the marketing department of Brand Ukraine thought she would be good for a military PR spokesperson. How must real AFU soldiers and real civilians think about her/him/it.

Posted by: SCCC | Sep 15 2023 0:05 utc | 329

Russia is woefully short of tranny generals.
Posted by: Sentient | Sep 14 2023 22:33 utc | 135
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And omg, that Cirillo thing. I just can’t believe that people in the marketing department of Brand Ukraine thought she would be good for a military PR spokesperson. How must real AFU soldiers and real civilians think about her/him/it.

Posted by: SCCC | Sep 15 2023 0:05 utc | 330

Regarding exotic weaponry technology, isn’t there a mystery of how they direct (communicate with) some of their hypersonic missiles when they are flying so fast; they are sometimes enveloped in plasma.
Some quantum entanglement communications?

Posted by: bobzibub | Sep 15 2023 0:11 utc | 331

Regarding exotic weaponry technology, isn’t there a mystery of how they direct (communicate with) some of their hypersonic missiles when they are flying so fast; they are sometimes enveloped in plasma.
Some quantum entanglement communications?

Posted by: bobzibub | Sep 15 2023 0:11 utc | 332

SCCC @ 167

And omg, that Cirillo thing. I just can’t believe that people in the marketing department of Brand Ukraine thought she would be good for a military PR spokesperson.

Give it 20ys and the DNC will be running he, her… it for President. Mark my words.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 15 2023 0:16 utc | 333

SCCC @ 167

And omg, that Cirillo thing. I just can’t believe that people in the marketing department of Brand Ukraine thought she would be good for a military PR spokesperson.

Give it 20ys and the DNC will be running he, her… it for President. Mark my words.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 15 2023 0:16 utc | 334

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 14 2023 22:04 utc | 131
You really are a worst-case-scenarist. You extrapolate every little thing into a major headache for Russia. I start reading you cos you sound knowledgeable, but by the end I think “that’s totally ridiculous”.
Just as I’d advise all the armchair generals and Kremlin advisors here — before posting, imagine yourself in the situation room with a dozen 70 year old Russian generals expounding your military and geopolitical theories and tactical advice. Then look around at their faces just before you get escorted out of the room.
Really mate, I’m totally befuddled by some/most of your conjecture. It’s not even worth countering with facts or counter-conjecture because your next post, and the next day, more worst case fantasies fill the airwaves. Do you by chance breathe only through your left nostril?

Posted by: SCCC | Sep 15 2023 0:27 utc | 335

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 14 2023 22:04 utc | 131
You really are a worst-case-scenarist. You extrapolate every little thing into a major headache for Russia. I start reading you cos you sound knowledgeable, but by the end I think “that’s totally ridiculous”.
Just as I’d advise all the armchair generals and Kremlin advisors here — before posting, imagine yourself in the situation room with a dozen 70 year old Russian generals expounding your military and geopolitical theories and tactical advice. Then look around at their faces just before you get escorted out of the room.
Really mate, I’m totally befuddled by some/most of your conjecture. It’s not even worth countering with facts or counter-conjecture because your next post, and the next day, more worst case fantasies fill the airwaves. Do you by chance breathe only through your left nostril?

Posted by: SCCC | Sep 15 2023 0:27 utc | 336

LightYearsFromHome | Sep 14 2023 20:33 utc | 110
*** For better or worse Russia consciously broke up the USSR because it was more than it could handle ***
So it is merely by chance that the demolition of the USSR was done — contrary to the wishes of a huge majority of its population — by traitors and criminals bought by the US-empire (though paid with Russia’s own assets) and ideologically committed to neoliberal cultism?

Posted by: Cynic | Sep 15 2023 0:29 utc | 337

LightYearsFromHome | Sep 14 2023 20:33 utc | 110
*** For better or worse Russia consciously broke up the USSR because it was more than it could handle ***
So it is merely by chance that the demolition of the USSR was done — contrary to the wishes of a huge majority of its population — by traitors and criminals bought by the US-empire (though paid with Russia’s own assets) and ideologically committed to neoliberal cultism?

Posted by: Cynic | Sep 15 2023 0:29 utc | 338

great many pieces of info
And since “b” is as much at a loss of an answer to what Putin might have meant regarding new “Wunder”-technology, as I was, we will have to simply wait.
But bottom-line must be: This madness on global scale must stop. Whats the sense in RU throwing all her resources out of the window building tanks? Not to mention the US. I am not going into the details. But this is the way to hell.
Its no solution to grind down the US financially if it takes 50 years while heating will increase. If the US is done its too late.
To quote Noam Chomsky: The world is not an infinite resource and not an infinite garbage can.
I dont want to test how accurate the climate models are. Because if there is the slightest truth to them (I am addressing people who think its mostly a hoax) we are fucked.
Sry for being so moralistic. But I just came back from meeting friends. And I did not say a single word about the war. Instead I had to listen to the hatred and nonsense that we all know too well. And these are not your classic selfish academic brats everybody is blaming. These are from working-class families, with working-class careers themselves. They know crime, they know hard work, they know true responsibility.
Sometimes its too much. But may be its just the weather turning…

Posted by: AG | Sep 15 2023 0:31 utc | 339

great many pieces of info
And since “b” is as much at a loss of an answer to what Putin might have meant regarding new “Wunder”-technology, as I was, we will have to simply wait.
But bottom-line must be: This madness on global scale must stop. Whats the sense in RU throwing all her resources out of the window building tanks? Not to mention the US. I am not going into the details. But this is the way to hell.
Its no solution to grind down the US financially if it takes 50 years while heating will increase. If the US is done its too late.
To quote Noam Chomsky: The world is not an infinite resource and not an infinite garbage can.
I dont want to test how accurate the climate models are. Because if there is the slightest truth to them (I am addressing people who think its mostly a hoax) we are fucked.
Sry for being so moralistic. But I just came back from meeting friends. And I did not say a single word about the war. Instead I had to listen to the hatred and nonsense that we all know too well. And these are not your classic selfish academic brats everybody is blaming. These are from working-class families, with working-class careers themselves. They know crime, they know hard work, they know true responsibility.
Sometimes its too much. But may be its just the weather turning…

Posted by: AG | Sep 15 2023 0:31 utc | 340

Some videos for today.
Russian marines, with artillery support, beat off enemy attacks on the southern DPR front, near Ugledar:
https://rutube.ru/video/e2f3c6bf959df1e7ead5a6ba61a03f35/
Russian drone strikes enemy fortified position:
https://rutube.ru/video/402487283cbf6a3c6cc08cc904f58546/
Russian Ka-52 destroys enemy armored vehicle on the southern DPR front:
https://rutube.ru/video/4f3ab52982099e3ed4606b1587feb3ce/
Russian T-90 tank fires on enemy position near Krasny Liman:
https://rutube.ru/video/2093cbd98244fa48ae30c5804dae74bb/

Posted by: Nate | Sep 15 2023 0:32 utc | 341

Some videos for today.
Russian marines, with artillery support, beat off enemy attacks on the southern DPR front, near Ugledar:
https://rutube.ru/video/e2f3c6bf959df1e7ead5a6ba61a03f35/
Russian drone strikes enemy fortified position:
https://rutube.ru/video/402487283cbf6a3c6cc08cc904f58546/
Russian Ka-52 destroys enemy armored vehicle on the southern DPR front:
https://rutube.ru/video/4f3ab52982099e3ed4606b1587feb3ce/
Russian T-90 tank fires on enemy position near Krasny Liman:
https://rutube.ru/video/2093cbd98244fa48ae30c5804dae74bb/

Posted by: Nate | Sep 15 2023 0:32 utc | 342

malenkov | Sep 14 2023 23:09 utc | 147
I’m trying.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 15 2023 0:40 utc | 343

malenkov | Sep 14 2023 23:09 utc | 147
I’m trying.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 15 2023 0:40 utc | 344

Posted by: Nate | Sep 15 2023 0:32 utc | 174
Thanks Nate, i’m always waiting for your message with the videos links 🙂

Posted by: v | Sep 15 2023 0:47 utc | 345

Posted by: Nate | Sep 15 2023 0:32 utc | 174
Thanks Nate, i’m always waiting for your message with the videos links 🙂

Posted by: v | Sep 15 2023 0:47 utc | 346

Peter AU1 | Sep 14 2023 22:50 utc | 141
*** The Americans want Sevastopol which will give them control of the black sea. US embassy in Ukraine had a tender out for upgrades to buildings at the naval base after there successful regime change operation.
Hence the sacrifice of the Ukrainians as cannon fodder and flocks of sheep to clear minefields.
Russian battle of Kursk type defences were public knowledge yet the Americans and no doubt the british ordered them to march into it.
Mackinder lives on.***
Lvov — and other core areas of the West Ukraine banderites — must be destroyed, with maximum violence. Only that would cause NATO to hesitate, and (as a mild sample) remind the US-empire’s vassal States of what retribution could deservedly come their way.
But an Atlanticist, bankerite regime would rather effectively lose than do that.

Posted by: Cynic | Sep 15 2023 0:53 utc | 347

Peter AU1 | Sep 14 2023 22:50 utc | 141
*** The Americans want Sevastopol which will give them control of the black sea. US embassy in Ukraine had a tender out for upgrades to buildings at the naval base after there successful regime change operation.
Hence the sacrifice of the Ukrainians as cannon fodder and flocks of sheep to clear minefields.
Russian battle of Kursk type defences were public knowledge yet the Americans and no doubt the british ordered them to march into it.
Mackinder lives on.***
Lvov — and other core areas of the West Ukraine banderites — must be destroyed, with maximum violence. Only that would cause NATO to hesitate, and (as a mild sample) remind the US-empire’s vassal States of what retribution could deservedly come their way.
But an Atlanticist, bankerite regime would rather effectively lose than do that.

Posted by: Cynic | Sep 15 2023 0:53 utc | 348

Posted by: young | Sep 14 2023 20:57 utc | 116
Oh please. You and Dweeb Union are assessing “stalemate” based only on westward territorial advances and lack of Big Exciting Actions. Many of their fanboys think the war is now boring because the Wagners aren’t at Bhakmut anymore. That shows the level of their thinking.
Yawn. But to say it again and again and again — it is Russia’s intentional tactics-switch to *gradually keep winning* in active-defence ways and by killing troops and equipment to point some point of AFU/NATO exhaustion. It’s fkn clever, not a fkn stalemate.
Dweeb (like Dima) is a short-sighted, cock-sure moron. They spend so much time examining and plotting colourful arrows and icons on their little maps that they ignore the forest, the big picture. And their occasional opinionated speculation and conjecture is no more valid than yours or mine. In case you hadn’t noticed, most MoD folks don’t spend much time considering “how many APCs got shelled at Verbova in the last 24 hours” or which treeline is “now under control of the AFU or Russian forces”. Snooooore.
Stalemate, my arse. Count the KIA rate since December. You call that a stalemate?

Posted by: SCCC | Sep 15 2023 0:55 utc | 349

Posted by: young | Sep 14 2023 20:57 utc | 116
Oh please. You and Dweeb Union are assessing “stalemate” based only on westward territorial advances and lack of Big Exciting Actions. Many of their fanboys think the war is now boring because the Wagners aren’t at Bhakmut anymore. That shows the level of their thinking.
Yawn. But to say it again and again and again — it is Russia’s intentional tactics-switch to *gradually keep winning* in active-defence ways and by killing troops and equipment to point some point of AFU/NATO exhaustion. It’s fkn clever, not a fkn stalemate.
Dweeb (like Dima) is a short-sighted, cock-sure moron. They spend so much time examining and plotting colourful arrows and icons on their little maps that they ignore the forest, the big picture. And their occasional opinionated speculation and conjecture is no more valid than yours or mine. In case you hadn’t noticed, most MoD folks don’t spend much time considering “how many APCs got shelled at Verbova in the last 24 hours” or which treeline is “now under control of the AFU or Russian forces”. Snooooore.
Stalemate, my arse. Count the KIA rate since December. You call that a stalemate?

Posted by: SCCC | Sep 15 2023 0:55 utc | 350

It’s been real quiet on the Telegram info blogs. Not much on Smoothiex12 or MOA. Something is up. Something big is coming. It seems that Russia has been saving up missiles for a good reason. I can wait.

Posted by: Leroy | Sep 15 2023 1:06 utc | 351

It’s been real quiet on the Telegram info blogs. Not much on Smoothiex12 or MOA. Something is up. Something big is coming. It seems that Russia has been saving up missiles for a good reason. I can wait.

Posted by: Leroy | Sep 15 2023 1:06 utc | 352

Pepe Escobar has a posting up at The Cradle
In Vladivostok, the Russian Far East rises
Russia is winning in more than arms production and the de-Westernization caravan continues to grow and evolve as Pepe explains. The growth is around infrastructure and transportation integration and build out. What Pepe does not emphasize is that the growth is not being limited by the IMF and World Bank approaches so is more sovereign oriented.
Pepe also reported on my favorite topic

I had the honor of being part of one of the crucial panels, Greater Eurasia: Drivers for the Formation of an Alternative International Monetary and Financial System.
A key conclusion is that the stage is set for a common Eurasia payment system – part of the Eurasian Economic Union’s (EAEU) draft declaration for 2030-2045 – against the backdrop of Hybrid War and “toxic currencies” (83 per cent of EAEU transactions already bypass them).
Yet the debate remains fierce when it comes to a basket of national currencies, a basket of goods, payment and settlement structures, the use of blockchain, a new pricing system, or setting up a single stock exchange. Is it all possible, technically? Yes, but that would take 30 or 40 years to take shape, as the panel stressed.
As it stands, a single example of challenges ahead is enough. The idea of coming up with a basket of currencies for an alternative payment system did not gather steam at the BRICS summit because of India’s position.
Aleksandr Babakov, deputy chairman of the Duma, evoked the discussions between the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) and Iran on trade financing in national currencies, including a road map to look for best ways in legislation to help attract investment. That’s also being discussed with private companies. The model is the success of the China-Russia trade turnover.
Andrey Klepach, chief economist at VEB, quipped that the best currency is “liquid and stable. Like vodka.” So we’re not there yet. Two-thirds of trade are still carried in dollars and euros; the Chinese yuan accounts for only three percent. India refuses to use the yuan. And there’s a huge Russia-India imbalance: as much as 40 billion rupees are sitting in Russian exporters accounts with nowhere to go. A priority is to improve trust in the ruble: it should be accepted by both India and China. And a digital ruble is becoming a necessity.
Wang Wen concurred, saying there’s not enough ambition. India should export more to Russia and Russia should invest more in India.
In parallel, as pointed out by Sohail Khan, the deputy secretary-general of the SCO, India now controls no less than 40 percent of the global digital payment market. It had a share of zero only seven years ago. That accounts for the success of its unified payment system (UPI).

I think the 30 – 40 year claim to create a working alternative to the private finance global clearinghouse for foreign exchange is way high. The problem continues to be how to police any floating exchange system between sovereign nations (assuming private finance is gone) and enforce any abuse.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 15 2023 1:11 utc | 353

Pepe Escobar has a posting up at The Cradle
In Vladivostok, the Russian Far East rises
Russia is winning in more than arms production and the de-Westernization caravan continues to grow and evolve as Pepe explains. The growth is around infrastructure and transportation integration and build out. What Pepe does not emphasize is that the growth is not being limited by the IMF and World Bank approaches so is more sovereign oriented.
Pepe also reported on my favorite topic

I had the honor of being part of one of the crucial panels, Greater Eurasia: Drivers for the Formation of an Alternative International Monetary and Financial System.
A key conclusion is that the stage is set for a common Eurasia payment system – part of the Eurasian Economic Union’s (EAEU) draft declaration for 2030-2045 – against the backdrop of Hybrid War and “toxic currencies” (83 per cent of EAEU transactions already bypass them).
Yet the debate remains fierce when it comes to a basket of national currencies, a basket of goods, payment and settlement structures, the use of blockchain, a new pricing system, or setting up a single stock exchange. Is it all possible, technically? Yes, but that would take 30 or 40 years to take shape, as the panel stressed.
As it stands, a single example of challenges ahead is enough. The idea of coming up with a basket of currencies for an alternative payment system did not gather steam at the BRICS summit because of India’s position.
Aleksandr Babakov, deputy chairman of the Duma, evoked the discussions between the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) and Iran on trade financing in national currencies, including a road map to look for best ways in legislation to help attract investment. That’s also being discussed with private companies. The model is the success of the China-Russia trade turnover.
Andrey Klepach, chief economist at VEB, quipped that the best currency is “liquid and stable. Like vodka.” So we’re not there yet. Two-thirds of trade are still carried in dollars and euros; the Chinese yuan accounts for only three percent. India refuses to use the yuan. And there’s a huge Russia-India imbalance: as much as 40 billion rupees are sitting in Russian exporters accounts with nowhere to go. A priority is to improve trust in the ruble: it should be accepted by both India and China. And a digital ruble is becoming a necessity.
Wang Wen concurred, saying there’s not enough ambition. India should export more to Russia and Russia should invest more in India.
In parallel, as pointed out by Sohail Khan, the deputy secretary-general of the SCO, India now controls no less than 40 percent of the global digital payment market. It had a share of zero only seven years ago. That accounts for the success of its unified payment system (UPI).

I think the 30 – 40 year claim to create a working alternative to the private finance global clearinghouse for foreign exchange is way high. The problem continues to be how to police any floating exchange system between sovereign nations (assuming private finance is gone) and enforce any abuse.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 15 2023 1:11 utc | 354

AG | Sep 15 2023 0:31 utc | 173
***I dont want to test how accurate the climate models are. Because if there is the slightest truth to them (I am addressing people who think its mostly a hoax) we are fucked.***
The climate models of the “global warmists” are intended to deliver a panic as desired by the WEF.
No matter how many of their “expert” assertions turn out to be lies or based on *very* selectively edited data, or on disappearing literally millions of years of history, the mass-media and politicians pimp out their guff.
Alleged “experts” so expert even their next couple of days weather forecasts are often ridiculously unreliable (though some of that will also be due to feedback from orbiting satellites instead of the at-sea trawler fleets of decades ago).
The “global warmist” hysterics also provide a convenient cover for effects of US weather-warfare development and testing — continuance of the HAARP project.

Posted by: Cynic | Sep 15 2023 1:16 utc | 355

AG | Sep 15 2023 0:31 utc | 173
***I dont want to test how accurate the climate models are. Because if there is the slightest truth to them (I am addressing people who think its mostly a hoax) we are fucked.***
The climate models of the “global warmists” are intended to deliver a panic as desired by the WEF.
No matter how many of their “expert” assertions turn out to be lies or based on *very* selectively edited data, or on disappearing literally millions of years of history, the mass-media and politicians pimp out their guff.
Alleged “experts” so expert even their next couple of days weather forecasts are often ridiculously unreliable (though some of that will also be due to feedback from orbiting satellites instead of the at-sea trawler fleets of decades ago).
The “global warmist” hysterics also provide a convenient cover for effects of US weather-warfare development and testing — continuance of the HAARP project.

Posted by: Cynic | Sep 15 2023 1:16 utc | 356

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 14 2023 20:33 utc | 110
The dissolution of the USSR was the greatest act of treason in recorded history. It took place originally against the will of the people who actually voted for it and was committed by treasonous vermin led by a degenerate, neoliberal subhuman slob who ruined Russia and nealry destroyed it. By the end of the 90s the liberals came close to achieving what every other enemy of the country had failed to because for the first time in their history the Russians lost the will to fight back.
Many current problems stem from the inability to cope with the psychological complexes the destruction of the country created among its people. Putin can be credited to be among the few who had the determination to reverse the process and salvage the situation, but he is still unable to confront the shadows of the past, including his own. That was when he was a reliable lieutenant of Yeltsin, whom he continues to defend to this day, to the detriment of his own goals and efforts to rebuild the country.

Posted by: Constantine | Sep 15 2023 1:18 utc | 357

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 14 2023 20:33 utc | 110
The dissolution of the USSR was the greatest act of treason in recorded history. It took place originally against the will of the people who actually voted for it and was committed by treasonous vermin led by a degenerate, neoliberal subhuman slob who ruined Russia and nealry destroyed it. By the end of the 90s the liberals came close to achieving what every other enemy of the country had failed to because for the first time in their history the Russians lost the will to fight back.
Many current problems stem from the inability to cope with the psychological complexes the destruction of the country created among its people. Putin can be credited to be among the few who had the determination to reverse the process and salvage the situation, but he is still unable to confront the shadows of the past, including his own. That was when he was a reliable lieutenant of Yeltsin, whom he continues to defend to this day, to the detriment of his own goals and efforts to rebuild the country.

Posted by: Constantine | Sep 15 2023 1:18 utc | 358

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 14 2023 20:33 utc | 110
The dissolution of the USSR was the greatest act of treason in recorded history. It took place originally against the will of the people who actually voted for it and was committed by treasonous vermin led by a degenerate, neoliberal subhuman slob who ruined Russia and nealry destroyed it. By the end of the 90s the liberals came close to achieving what every other enemy of the country had failed to because for the first time in their history the Russians lost the will to fight back.
Many current problems stem from the inability to cope with the psychological complexes the destruction of the country created among its people. Putin can be credited to be among the few who had the determination to reverse the process and salvage the situation, but he is still unable to confront the shadows of the past, including his own. That was when he was a reliable lieutenant of Yeltsin, whom he continues to defend to this day, to the detriment of his own goals and efforts to rebuild the country.

Posted by: Constantine | Sep 15 2023 1:21 utc | 359

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 14 2023 20:33 utc | 110
The dissolution of the USSR was the greatest act of treason in recorded history. It took place originally against the will of the people who actually voted for it and was committed by treasonous vermin led by a degenerate, neoliberal subhuman slob who ruined Russia and nealry destroyed it. By the end of the 90s the liberals came close to achieving what every other enemy of the country had failed to because for the first time in their history the Russians lost the will to fight back.
Many current problems stem from the inability to cope with the psychological complexes the destruction of the country created among its people. Putin can be credited to be among the few who had the determination to reverse the process and salvage the situation, but he is still unable to confront the shadows of the past, including his own. That was when he was a reliable lieutenant of Yeltsin, whom he continues to defend to this day, to the detriment of his own goals and efforts to rebuild the country.

Posted by: Constantine | Sep 15 2023 1:21 utc | 360

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 15 2023 1:11 utc | 180
” … and the de-Westernization caravan continues to grow and evolve …”.
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Yep, exactly. So whilst there is still the hegemonic, unilateral US vs The Rest, the “others” are very busy in joint bilateral infrastructure and transportation and monetary projects. Putin and Xi and Modi examplify this beautifully (and wisely). Now Saudi has pivoted to Asian partnerships. Ooops, for America. So many new anti-hegemonic moves afoot. Yay!

Posted by: SCCC | Sep 15 2023 1:25 utc | 361

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 15 2023 1:11 utc | 180
” … and the de-Westernization caravan continues to grow and evolve …”.
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Yep, exactly. So whilst there is still the hegemonic, unilateral US vs The Rest, the “others” are very busy in joint bilateral infrastructure and transportation and monetary projects. Putin and Xi and Modi examplify this beautifully (and wisely). Now Saudi has pivoted to Asian partnerships. Ooops, for America. So many new anti-hegemonic moves afoot. Yay!

Posted by: SCCC | Sep 15 2023 1:25 utc | 362

Make Russia pay a price https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ivt2NmbyGg
If hollywood total evil bad guy exists then this is it. Not just Morrel but all of the elte/deep state think the same way. The empire of lies… the evil empire. As Kissinger said – “To be an enemy of America can be dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal”. And so we see Ukrainians being used like flocks of sheep – which 80% of humanity is/are – to clear minefields. 80%s of humanity… as in Blazing Saddles – “they are the salt of the earth – you know, morons”
Re my comment earlier on Sevastopol or the capture of Sevastopol being the anglo target. That was also a major nazi Germany strategic target. Russia has been fully aware of this hence the layered defence lines that go right back into Crimea.
Montgomery – first rule of war is never march on Moscow. Second rule of war should have been never march on a gas station that has massive technical and manufacturing power.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 15 2023 1:32 utc | 363

Make Russia pay a price https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ivt2NmbyGg
If hollywood total evil bad guy exists then this is it. Not just Morrel but all of the elte/deep state think the same way. The empire of lies… the evil empire. As Kissinger said – “To be an enemy of America can be dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal”. And so we see Ukrainians being used like flocks of sheep – which 80% of humanity is/are – to clear minefields. 80%s of humanity… as in Blazing Saddles – “they are the salt of the earth – you know, morons”
Re my comment earlier on Sevastopol or the capture of Sevastopol being the anglo target. That was also a major nazi Germany strategic target. Russia has been fully aware of this hence the layered defence lines that go right back into Crimea.
Montgomery – first rule of war is never march on Moscow. Second rule of war should have been never march on a gas station that has massive technical and manufacturing power.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 15 2023 1:32 utc | 364

Could have seen this coming a mile away. Are legionnaires disease infected mercenary organs being shipped into our organ supply?

The first cases of patients likely contracting Legionnaires’ disease from transplanted organs have been identified in a new report.
The Pennsylvania Department of Health was informed in July 2022, that two patients who recently received lung transplants both had the disease, according to the report published by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Thursday.
The patients had each received a single lung from the same donor and had their operations performed at the same hospital.
The donor was a man between ages 30 and 39 who fell into a river and was submerged for five minutes or longer, according to the report. Despite attempts to resuscitate him, the man suffered an anoxic brain injury — a complete lack of oxygen to the brain — and was declared brain dead. His organs were recovered for donation within seven days of his death. At the time, exposure to Legionella bacteria was not suspected and no testing occurred, the CDC said.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/donated-organs-caused-legionnaires-disease-2-lung-transplant/story?id=103181678
Who wants to guess where those ‘donated’ lungs came from?
Something tells me the names, dates and circumstances in this article have been carefully tailored to prevent any “conspiracy theories” …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 15 2023 1:33 utc | 365

Could have seen this coming a mile away. Are legionnaires disease infected mercenary organs being shipped into our organ supply?

The first cases of patients likely contracting Legionnaires’ disease from transplanted organs have been identified in a new report.
The Pennsylvania Department of Health was informed in July 2022, that two patients who recently received lung transplants both had the disease, according to the report published by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Thursday.
The patients had each received a single lung from the same donor and had their operations performed at the same hospital.
The donor was a man between ages 30 and 39 who fell into a river and was submerged for five minutes or longer, according to the report. Despite attempts to resuscitate him, the man suffered an anoxic brain injury — a complete lack of oxygen to the brain — and was declared brain dead. His organs were recovered for donation within seven days of his death. At the time, exposure to Legionella bacteria was not suspected and no testing occurred, the CDC said.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/donated-organs-caused-legionnaires-disease-2-lung-transplant/story?id=103181678
Who wants to guess where those ‘donated’ lungs came from?
Something tells me the names, dates and circumstances in this article have been carefully tailored to prevent any “conspiracy theories” …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 15 2023 1:33 utc | 366

It’s not the isolated narratives that scare it’s the incessant, relentless escalation.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 14 2023 23:43 utc | 157
That is also my view. We often tend to ascribe to others a rational line of thinking that they may have rejected. This is clearly the case of the political class in the Anglo-American empire.
Every single warning by sober people in the foreign policy apparatus has been disregarded and every red line has been crossed and that was before NATO unleashed a proxy attack directly against Russia through Ukraine of all places. The lunatics who led this policy are obviously imperialist zealots who are unable to comprehend basic principles of international politics.
One could go further and sugggest that the purge of rational foreign policy veterans with actual expertise didn’t just happen. It was actively sought by the ruling Anglo-Americanoligarchy that considered tham an impediment to a policy of full-spectrum dominance. Hence their replacement by neoconservative mediocrities who possessed, however, the necessary temperament to cassy such a policy: they are all supremacist zealots.
As for results on the ground, the Anglo-American oligarchs can rely on the overkill capabilities of the empire that have served them well up to now. That is why it is imperative that they now meet their match.

Posted by: Constantine | Sep 15 2023 1:43 utc | 367

It’s not the isolated narratives that scare it’s the incessant, relentless escalation.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 14 2023 23:43 utc | 157
That is also my view. We often tend to ascribe to others a rational line of thinking that they may have rejected. This is clearly the case of the political class in the Anglo-American empire.
Every single warning by sober people in the foreign policy apparatus has been disregarded and every red line has been crossed and that was before NATO unleashed a proxy attack directly against Russia through Ukraine of all places. The lunatics who led this policy are obviously imperialist zealots who are unable to comprehend basic principles of international politics.
One could go further and sugggest that the purge of rational foreign policy veterans with actual expertise didn’t just happen. It was actively sought by the ruling Anglo-Americanoligarchy that considered tham an impediment to a policy of full-spectrum dominance. Hence their replacement by neoconservative mediocrities who possessed, however, the necessary temperament to cassy such a policy: they are all supremacist zealots.
As for results on the ground, the Anglo-American oligarchs can rely on the overkill capabilities of the empire that have served them well up to now. That is why it is imperative that they now meet their match.

Posted by: Constantine | Sep 15 2023 1:43 utc | 368

psychohistorian 180
All of the temptations that USUKIS have succumbed to with their technological financial systems will be available to any other party who creates a parallel system. How does replicating one monster with others solve the problem of economic power and subsequent war ?
The only thing that will improve human life on earth is an increase in moral limits. Increasing the limits to corruption doesn’t blow my skirts up.
Increasing human moral awareness does.
The Indian revulsion at its Muslim heritage is no less than the Western revulsion at the morality of Islam.
These technologies in the hands of other players will be just as damaging as USUKIS.

Posted by: Giyane | Sep 15 2023 1:43 utc | 369

psychohistorian 180
All of the temptations that USUKIS have succumbed to with their technological financial systems will be available to any other party who creates a parallel system. How does replicating one monster with others solve the problem of economic power and subsequent war ?
The only thing that will improve human life on earth is an increase in moral limits. Increasing the limits to corruption doesn’t blow my skirts up.
Increasing human moral awareness does.
The Indian revulsion at its Muslim heritage is no less than the Western revulsion at the morality of Islam.
These technologies in the hands of other players will be just as damaging as USUKIS.

Posted by: Giyane | Sep 15 2023 1:43 utc | 370

It’s been real quiet on the Telegram info blogs. Not much on Smoothiex12 or MOA. Something is up. Something big is coming. It seems that Russia has been saving up missiles for a good reason. I can wait.
Posted by: Leroy | Sep 15 2023 1:06 utc | 179
Hasn’t Putin or somebody mentioned something happening in September?
Great to be reading you again Peter AU1!
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I come from a mother and uncles who were partisans in WW2, they had to pick up a gun and fight their own countrymen to get their country back. That’s also part of the destiny of nations.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 14 2023 16:24 utc | 59
What country is that LightYearsFromHome ?

Posted by: Ново З | Sep 15 2023 1:45 utc | 371

It’s been real quiet on the Telegram info blogs. Not much on Smoothiex12 or MOA. Something is up. Something big is coming. It seems that Russia has been saving up missiles for a good reason. I can wait.
Posted by: Leroy | Sep 15 2023 1:06 utc | 179
Hasn’t Putin or somebody mentioned something happening in September?
Great to be reading you again Peter AU1!
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I come from a mother and uncles who were partisans in WW2, they had to pick up a gun and fight their own countrymen to get their country back. That’s also part of the destiny of nations.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 14 2023 16:24 utc | 59
What country is that LightYearsFromHome ?

Posted by: Ново З | Sep 15 2023 1:45 utc | 372

It’s been real quiet on the Telegram info blogs. Not much on Smoothiex12 or MOA. Something is up. Something big is coming. It seems that Russia has been saving up missiles for a good reason. I can wait.
Posted by: Leroy | Sep 15 2023 1:06 utc | 179
Hasn’t Putin or somebody mentioned something happening in September?
Great to be reading you again Peter AU1!
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I come from a mother and uncles who were partisans in WW2, they had to pick up a gun and fight their own countrymen to get their country back. That’s also part of the destiny of nations.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 14 2023 16:24 utc | 59
What country is that LightYearsFromHome ?

Posted by: Ново З | Sep 15 2023 1:45 utc | 373

It’s been real quiet on the Telegram info blogs. Not much on Smoothiex12 or MOA. Something is up. Something big is coming. It seems that Russia has been saving up missiles for a good reason. I can wait.
Posted by: Leroy | Sep 15 2023 1:06 utc | 179
Hasn’t Putin or somebody mentioned something happening in September?
Great to be reading you again Peter AU1!
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I come from a mother and uncles who were partisans in WW2, they had to pick up a gun and fight their own countrymen to get their country back. That’s also part of the destiny of nations.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 14 2023 16:24 utc | 59
What country is that LightYearsFromHome ?

Posted by: Ново З | Sep 15 2023 1:45 utc | 374

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 15 2023 1:32 utc | 185

Re my comment earlier on Sevastopol or the capture of Sevastopol being the anglo target. That was also a major nazi Germany strategic target. Russia has been fully aware of this hence the layered defence lines that go right back into Crimea.

It’s almost as if a geostrategic location is a predictor of future events.
One can tell just by looking at a location that wars will be fought there.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 15 2023 1:46 utc | 375

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 15 2023 1:32 utc | 185

Re my comment earlier on Sevastopol or the capture of Sevastopol being the anglo target. That was also a major nazi Germany strategic target. Russia has been fully aware of this hence the layered defence lines that go right back into Crimea.

It’s almost as if a geostrategic location is a predictor of future events.
One can tell just by looking at a location that wars will be fought there.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 15 2023 1:46 utc | 376

Cynic | Sep 15 2023 0:53 utc | 177
Wait and watch. Russia is now in battle of Kursk mode and will defeat the anglo empire from a defensive position. Liken the Russian move into Ukraine as a slap on the face to initiate and old time duel. Russia has slapped the empire to initiate the duel. Everything our glorious leaders have thrown at the Ruskies has failed. We now await the the American Wiley E Coyote next move.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 15 2023 1:50 utc | 377

Cynic | Sep 15 2023 0:53 utc | 177
Wait and watch. Russia is now in battle of Kursk mode and will defeat the anglo empire from a defensive position. Liken the Russian move into Ukraine as a slap on the face to initiate and old time duel. Russia has slapped the empire to initiate the duel. Everything our glorious leaders have thrown at the Ruskies has failed. We now await the the American Wiley E Coyote next move.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 15 2023 1:50 utc | 378

Posted by: Giyane | Sep 15 2023 1:43 utc | 188
Go join the Taliban.
Go preach in a Madrassa.

Posted by: SCCC | Sep 15 2023 1:53 utc | 379

Posted by: Giyane | Sep 15 2023 1:43 utc | 188
Go join the Taliban.
Go preach in a Madrassa.

Posted by: SCCC | Sep 15 2023 1:53 utc | 380

@: Sentient | Sep 14 2023 22:33 utc | 135

Russia is woefully short of tranny generals.

@ SCCC | Sep 15 2023 0:05 utc | 167

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And omg, that Cirillo thing. I just can’t believe that people in the marketing department of Brand Ukraine thought she would be good for a military PR spokesperson. How must real AFU soldiers and real civilians think about her/him/it.

The thing has spoken: https://twitter.com/SarahAshtonLV/status/1702013564465156204

Since there are several people asking for this video and many discussing it on Telegram and across social media channels, here is my latest episode of Russia Hates the Truth.
The russians and their supporters are gnashing their teeth as predicted.

Posted by: scanalyse | Sep 15 2023 2:01 utc | 381

@: Sentient | Sep 14 2023 22:33 utc | 135

Russia is woefully short of tranny generals.

@ SCCC | Sep 15 2023 0:05 utc | 167

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And omg, that Cirillo thing. I just can’t believe that people in the marketing department of Brand Ukraine thought she would be good for a military PR spokesperson. How must real AFU soldiers and real civilians think about her/him/it.

The thing has spoken: https://twitter.com/SarahAshtonLV/status/1702013564465156204

Since there are several people asking for this video and many discussing it on Telegram and across social media channels, here is my latest episode of Russia Hates the Truth.
The russians and their supporters are gnashing their teeth as predicted.

Posted by: scanalyse | Sep 15 2023 2:01 utc | 382

Constantine 182
With all due respect the purpose of life on earth is to earn credits for or next life, so community’s banning of religion destroyed human purpose just as much as Western predatory capitalism. What makes Putin great is his faith and re-alignment of Russia with religious freedom.
Protestantism chased the mumbo jumbo of Roman Catholicism out of Europe, but mo others was punishable by death because it undermined the oligarchs, of whom our late Queen was the last to claim power through the delegation of God.
The WEF great reset is , I presume, a re-affirmation of the right to power without God, through the power of algorithm, AI and financial number cruching. That’s just replacing one set of bastards with their sense of entitlement with another set of bastards with a worse one.
Not going to happen. The West’s rejection of God will destroy it.
Meanwhile Putin sits on a vast expanse of practising Islam inside the Russian Federation. He should consolidate his religious reforms in Russia by extending them to the whole Muslim area in his sphere of influence.
USUKIS be very afraid. Your civilisation would collapse even at the thought of such an anti-crusade. Queen Liz and Henry VIII already spinning in their graves

Posted by: Giyane | Sep 15 2023 2:14 utc | 383

Constantine 182
With all due respect the purpose of life on earth is to earn credits for or next life, so community’s banning of religion destroyed human purpose just as much as Western predatory capitalism. What makes Putin great is his faith and re-alignment of Russia with religious freedom.
Protestantism chased the mumbo jumbo of Roman Catholicism out of Europe, but mo others was punishable by death because it undermined the oligarchs, of whom our late Queen was the last to claim power through the delegation of God.
The WEF great reset is , I presume, a re-affirmation of the right to power without God, through the power of algorithm, AI and financial number cruching. That’s just replacing one set of bastards with their sense of entitlement with another set of bastards with a worse one.
Not going to happen. The West’s rejection of God will destroy it.
Meanwhile Putin sits on a vast expanse of practising Islam inside the Russian Federation. He should consolidate his religious reforms in Russia by extending them to the whole Muslim area in his sphere of influence.
USUKIS be very afraid. Your civilisation would collapse even at the thought of such an anti-crusade. Queen Liz and Henry VIII already spinning in their graves

Posted by: Giyane | Sep 15 2023 2:14 utc | 384

Russia is woefully short of tranny generals.
Posted by: Sentient | Sep 14 2023 22:33 utc | 135
Russia may be slow off the mark on that but UKR are definitely getting up to speed :
https://swentr.site/russia/582983-moscow-kiev-transgender-threat/

Posted by: PalmaSailor | Sep 15 2023 2:14 utc | 385

Russia is woefully short of tranny generals.
Posted by: Sentient | Sep 14 2023 22:33 utc | 135
Russia may be slow off the mark on that but UKR are definitely getting up to speed :
https://swentr.site/russia/582983-moscow-kiev-transgender-threat/

Posted by: PalmaSailor | Sep 15 2023 2:14 utc | 386

Mo others should read . Monotheism

Posted by: Giyane | Sep 15 2023 2:16 utc | 387

Mo others should read . Monotheism

Posted by: Giyane | Sep 15 2023 2:16 utc | 388

Russia’s production costs are also far lower than the West’s, in part because Moscow is sacrificing safety and quality in its effort to build weapons more cheaply, Mr. Salm said. For instance, it costs a Western country $5,000 to $6,000 to make a 155-millimeter artillery round, whereas it costs Russia about $600 to produce a comparable 152-millimeter artillery shell, he said.

It puzzles me that the talking head would compare a 155 mm round to a “comparable” 152 mm round.
Why not just compare the cost of a Western 155 mm round to a Russian 155 mm one like a normal person would?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 15 2023 2:32 utc | 389

Russia’s production costs are also far lower than the West’s, in part because Moscow is sacrificing safety and quality in its effort to build weapons more cheaply, Mr. Salm said. For instance, it costs a Western country $5,000 to $6,000 to make a 155-millimeter artillery round, whereas it costs Russia about $600 to produce a comparable 152-millimeter artillery shell, he said.

It puzzles me that the talking head would compare a 155 mm round to a “comparable” 152 mm round.
Why not just compare the cost of a Western 155 mm round to a Russian 155 mm one like a normal person would?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 15 2023 2:32 utc | 390

Russia’s production costs are also far lower than the West’s, in part because Moscow is sacrificing safety and quality in its effort to build weapons more cheaply, Mr. Salm said. For instance, it costs a Western country $5,000 to $6,000 to make a 155-millimeter artillery round, whereas it costs Russia about $600 to produce a comparable 152-millimeter artillery shell, he said.

It puzzles me that the talking head would compare a 155 mm round to a “comparable” 152 mm round.
Why not just compare the cost of a Western 155 mm round to a Russian 155 mm one like a normal person would?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 15 2023 2:32 utc | 391

Russia’s production costs are also far lower than the West’s, in part because Moscow is sacrificing safety and quality in its effort to build weapons more cheaply, Mr. Salm said. For instance, it costs a Western country $5,000 to $6,000 to make a 155-millimeter artillery round, whereas it costs Russia about $600 to produce a comparable 152-millimeter artillery shell, he said.

It puzzles me that the talking head would compare a 155 mm round to a “comparable” 152 mm round.
Why not just compare the cost of a Western 155 mm round to a Russian 155 mm one like a normal person would?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 15 2023 2:32 utc | 392

“…in part because Moscow is sacrificing safety and quality”
bullshit, Russian weapons are fit for purpose and rugged and have the quality needed to deliver in the field, rather than quality needed to pad out a Pentagon invoice.

Posted by: yarpos | Sep 15 2023 2:34 utc | 393

“…in part because Moscow is sacrificing safety and quality”
bullshit, Russian weapons are fit for purpose and rugged and have the quality needed to deliver in the field, rather than quality needed to pad out a Pentagon invoice.

Posted by: yarpos | Sep 15 2023 2:34 utc | 394

Posted by: Giyane | Sep 15 2023 2:14 utc | 195
I can appreciate freedom of religion, traditions and spiritual values. However, when their championship is divorced from the reality people have to endure, it leads to hypocrisy and abuse for other more materialist purposes, despite the assertions of self-righteous (and often self-serving) preachers of all kinds.
None of the spiritual values of Islam helped in the least, when the Muslim countries became colonies or vassals of European powers. Instead, they were used to validate corrupt rulers who strengthened their positions by serving the interests of the colonialists. It was when there was a movement to establish modern, secular states that the Muslims began to reassert themselves.
The same can be applied to every other culture, tradition, religious denomination. The militant atheism of the USSR did it harm (it even undermined the cause of socialism), but the sanctimonious assertion of moral superiority through religion didn’t help in the least when Russia was either a backward state that disregarded its popular majority or when it turned into a post-apocalyptic gangland in the 90s, a neoliberal hellscape with horrific levels of crime, alcoholism, prostitution (including child prostitution) etc.
A rather surreal case is the actual spiritual rejuvenation of Tibetan Buddhism under the ChiComs, after the overthrow of the degenerate, regressive theocracy that existed previously.

Posted by: Constantine | Sep 15 2023 2:58 utc | 395

Posted by: Giyane | Sep 15 2023 2:14 utc | 195
I can appreciate freedom of religion, traditions and spiritual values. However, when their championship is divorced from the reality people have to endure, it leads to hypocrisy and abuse for other more materialist purposes, despite the assertions of self-righteous (and often self-serving) preachers of all kinds.
None of the spiritual values of Islam helped in the least, when the Muslim countries became colonies or vassals of European powers. Instead, they were used to validate corrupt rulers who strengthened their positions by serving the interests of the colonialists. It was when there was a movement to establish modern, secular states that the Muslims began to reassert themselves.
The same can be applied to every other culture, tradition, religious denomination. The militant atheism of the USSR did it harm (it even undermined the cause of socialism), but the sanctimonious assertion of moral superiority through religion didn’t help in the least when Russia was either a backward state that disregarded its popular majority or when it turned into a post-apocalyptic gangland in the 90s, a neoliberal hellscape with horrific levels of crime, alcoholism, prostitution (including child prostitution) etc.
A rather surreal case is the actual spiritual rejuvenation of Tibetan Buddhism under the ChiComs, after the overthrow of the degenerate, regressive theocracy that existed previously.

Posted by: Constantine | Sep 15 2023 2:58 utc | 396

Is it too far fetched to expect a mystery explosion occurring on a US attack sub inside one of their dry docks?
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 14 2023 15:45 utc | 35
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Yes it is. Next question.
Not too far fetched is an accidental small fire that is so expensive to fic that the ship lies docked in the Portsmouth Naval Shipyard VA. When I get too close with my boat one or two US Navy patrol boats chase me off. Same with seagoing NAVY of the Norfolk Naval base, further North, protected by floating nets from the Elizabeth River threats.
Anything nuclear gets very tight security. It would be on par with the US NS2 escapade.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Sep 15 2023 3:04 utc | 397

Is it too far fetched to expect a mystery explosion occurring on a US attack sub inside one of their dry docks?
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 14 2023 15:45 utc | 35
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Yes it is. Next question.
Not too far fetched is an accidental small fire that is so expensive to fic that the ship lies docked in the Portsmouth Naval Shipyard VA. When I get too close with my boat one or two US Navy patrol boats chase me off. Same with seagoing NAVY of the Norfolk Naval base, further North, protected by floating nets from the Elizabeth River threats.
Anything nuclear gets very tight security. It would be on par with the US NS2 escapade.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Sep 15 2023 3:04 utc | 398

Why not just compare the cost of a Western 155 mm round to a Russian 155 mm one like a normal person would?
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 15 2023 2:32 utc | 198
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The West pretty much use 155 mm, except for the Challenger 2, which has a rifled bore for 120 mm. That design is pretty much antique.
The Russkies and friends use 152 mm, smoothbore. Smoothbore, popular on both sides packs a bigger punch.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Sep 15 2023 3:22 utc | 399

Why not just compare the cost of a Western 155 mm round to a Russian 155 mm one like a normal person would?
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 15 2023 2:32 utc | 198
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The West pretty much use 155 mm, except for the Challenger 2, which has a rifled bore for 120 mm. That design is pretty much antique.
The Russkies and friends use 152 mm, smoothbore. Smoothbore, popular on both sides packs a bigger punch.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Sep 15 2023 3:22 utc | 400