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September 14, 2023
Russia Is Winning The Industrial Warfare Race

Last year I mocked the media for claiming that 'Russia is running out of' whatever.

> Back in March I had warned that Lies Do Not Win Wars. Here is another practical example.

After allegedly having 'run out of missiles' and, more importantly, patience, the leadership of the Russian Federation decided to de-electrify Ukrainian cities with a 'barrage of missile strikes'. <

Western military commentators have finally started to accept the obvious. Russia is winning and doing so by a large margin.

A similar turn can be seen in dearth of new 'Russia is running out of' stories which get now replaced by acknowledgements that Russia's weapon industries are out-producing the West:

Russia Overcomes Sanctions to Expand Missile Production, Officials SayNY Times
Moscow’s missile production now exceeds prewar levels, officials say, leaving Ukraine especially vulnerable this coming winter.

As a result of the sanctions, American officials estimate that Russia was forced to dramatically slow its production of missiles and other weaponry at the start of the war in February 2022 for at least six months. But by the end of 2022, Moscow’s military industrial manufacturing began to pick up speed again, American officials who spoke on condition of anonymity to disclose the sensitive assessment now concede.

Before the war, one senior Western defense official said, Russia could make 100 tanks a year; now they are producing 200.

Western officials also believe Russia is on track to manufacture two million artillery shells a year — double the amount Western intelligence services had initially estimated Russia could manufacture before the war.

As a result of the push, Russia is now producing more ammunition than the United States and Europe. Overall, Kusti Salm, a senior Estonian defense ministry official, estimated that Russia’s current ammunition production is seven times greater than that of the West.

Russia’s production costs are also far lower than the West’s, in part because Moscow is sacrificing safety and quality in its effort to build weapons more cheaply, Mr. Salm said. For instance, it costs a Western country $5,000 to $6,000 to make a 155-millimeter artillery round, whereas it costs Russia about $600 to produce a comparable 152-millimeter artillery shell, he said.

I believe that the numbers of current weapon production in Russia, which the New York Times cites, are too low. Consider that back in February the former Russian president Dmitry Medvedev spoke of an 'exponential increase' in weapon output:

Medvedev said Moscow had increased military production "by tens of times" at some factories and was closely studying weapons fired into Russian-held areas from the Ukrainian side in an effort to gain an advantage.

I would also argue that sanctions were never really able to hinder Russia's arms industry. No military uses the latest and greatest chips when it comes to making weapons. Putting sanctioning on those is thus pretty useless. Some old Intel 80386 compatible CPU is, correctly programmed, sufficient to manage a modern artillery system. For little money one can get thousands of these in any Asian electronic market.

There are a few exceptions that need special stuff. For some time Russia was behind in the production of night vision equipment. It imported some from France which blocked further transfers. But that issues seems to have been solved. For basic materials and energy Russia has all it needs. It also has well qualified staff to develop and build new weapons.

Five years ago the Russian President Vladimir Putin revealed a number of new weapon systems which were superior to western ones. He also mentioned that same of these were based on "new physical principles" which had been discovered by Russian scientists. At the recent Eastern Economic Forum he repeated that claim:

If one looks into the security sphere, new physical principles weapons will ensure the security of any country in the near historic perspective. We understand this very well and are working on it, Putin said.

(I don't find those sentences in the plenum transcript but trust Sputnik to have it right.)

There is some guessing what Putin might have meant. I thought about it for quite a while but have to admit that I have no clue what he has in mind.

A warning that Russia will outproduce the West was given back in June 2022 when Alex Vershinin of RUSI issued a note about The Return of Industrial Warfare:

The winner in a prolonged war between two near-peer powers is still based on which side has the strongest industrial base. A country must either have the manufacturing capacity to build massive quantities of ammunition or have other manufacturing industries that can be rapidly converted to ammunition production. Unfortunately, the West no longer seems to have either.

It has become to expensive for the West to regain that capability.

That Russia was running out of stuff was always wishful thinking, not fact based analysis. On that point it took the media more than a year to catch up with reality. On other aspects of the the war, casualty numbers come to mind, the media are still miles behind.

Comments

Didn’t Medvedev say that Russia would be producing over 1000 tanks per year?
He said that a few months ago, I think after visiting a tank factory.

Posted by: Wilbur | Sep 14 2023 13:54 utc | 1

Didn’t Medvedev say that Russia would be producing over 1000 tanks per year?
He said that a few months ago, I think after visiting a tank factory.

Posted by: Wilbur | Sep 14 2023 13:54 utc | 2

Lots of trolls from both sides bumping their chest like cavemen here.
Truth is if theres a free for all hot war this will happen ON BOTH SIDES:
– ships will be sunk. Lots of them
– bases will be obliterated. Lots of them
– planes will be shot down. By the hundreds
– on both sides
This is because ANY AD system can be overwhelmed. on both sides
Look at Yemen/Saudi, Kyiv and Crimea
If this happens first the sides will attemp at war of attrition. In other words who can outproduce the other in weapons and meat replenishment.
And eventually the losing side will resort to Nukes. And then well we all be dead.
So for both sides the chest humping trolls will be merged into a sea of ashes.
So stop bumping your chests and act like an intelligent species.

Posted by: Comandante | Sep 14 2023 14:01 utc | 3

Lots of trolls from both sides bumping their chest like cavemen here.
Truth is if theres a free for all hot war this will happen ON BOTH SIDES:
– ships will be sunk. Lots of them
– bases will be obliterated. Lots of them
– planes will be shot down. By the hundreds
– on both sides
This is because ANY AD system can be overwhelmed. on both sides
Look at Yemen/Saudi, Kyiv and Crimea
If this happens first the sides will attemp at war of attrition. In other words who can outproduce the other in weapons and meat replenishment.
And eventually the losing side will resort to Nukes. And then well we all be dead.
So for both sides the chest humping trolls will be merged into a sea of ashes.
So stop bumping your chests and act like an intelligent species.

Posted by: Comandante | Sep 14 2023 14:01 utc | 4

“Didn’t Medvedev say that Russia would be producing over 1000 tanks per year?
He said that a few months ago, I think after visiting a tank factory.
Posted by: Wilbur | Sep 14 2023 13:54 utc | 3”
Meds talks a lot. Youd be better off not taking much of his rhetoric to heart.

Posted by: Comandante | Sep 14 2023 14:02 utc | 5

“Didn’t Medvedev say that Russia would be producing over 1000 tanks per year?
He said that a few months ago, I think after visiting a tank factory.
Posted by: Wilbur | Sep 14 2023 13:54 utc | 3”
Meds talks a lot. Youd be better off not taking much of his rhetoric to heart.

Posted by: Comandante | Sep 14 2023 14:02 utc | 6

An Estonian defense ministry official knows everything about the defense industry in Russia. That it is compromising safety. This from a country that is de facto a territory of the United States. If not for their entrenched interests, Estonia would be a sitting duck if the you-know-what ever hits the fan.

Posted by: Jose Garcia | Sep 14 2023 14:10 utc | 7

An Estonian defense ministry official knows everything about the defense industry in Russia. That it is compromising safety. This from a country that is de facto a territory of the United States. If not for their entrenched interests, Estonia would be a sitting duck if the you-know-what ever hits the fan.

Posted by: Jose Garcia | Sep 14 2023 14:10 utc | 8

370 “Time is on Russia’s side”
Oswald you are 100% correct, the economies of the West are crumbling under their tremendous debt loads.
The slow pace is the correct one.

Posted by: canuck | Sep 14 2023 14:12 utc | 9

370 “Time is on Russia’s side”
Oswald you are 100% correct, the economies of the West are crumbling under their tremendous debt loads.
The slow pace is the correct one.

Posted by: canuck | Sep 14 2023 14:12 utc | 10

The US military and its complex, at breakneck speed, are producing yachts and mansions 24-7.

Posted by: Elmagnostic | Sep 14 2023 14:16 utc | 11

The US military and its complex, at breakneck speed, are producing yachts and mansions 24-7.

Posted by: Elmagnostic | Sep 14 2023 14:16 utc | 12

> For some time Russia was behind in the production of night vision equipment.
The recent Chinese sanction on gallium and germanium exports will have a serious effect Western production of thermal imaging systems. Especially in the high-end. Those elements are critical for LWIR systems.
Since 10 years Russia has a native MEMS fabrication capability. MEMS is the enabling technology for low cost thermal imaging.
https://www.eetimes.com/mapper-opens-russian-mems-fab/
In war production believe the operative epigram is “close enough for government work”.

Posted by: too scents | Sep 14 2023 14:16 utc | 13

> For some time Russia was behind in the production of night vision equipment.
The recent Chinese sanction on gallium and germanium exports will have a serious effect Western production of thermal imaging systems. Especially in the high-end. Those elements are critical for LWIR systems.
Since 10 years Russia has a native MEMS fabrication capability. MEMS is the enabling technology for low cost thermal imaging.
https://www.eetimes.com/mapper-opens-russian-mems-fab/
In war production believe the operative epigram is “close enough for government work”.

Posted by: too scents | Sep 14 2023 14:16 utc | 14

@b
Putin’s new principles – we don’t know what all of them are but we do know some of them.
One is the nuclear powered cruising engine. This is what is behind the Poseidon torpedo and the Burestvestnik infinite range cruise missile.
Another (or more likely, several others) is behind the hypersonic missiles: Kinzhal, Avangard, etc. Millenium 7 has a really excellent article talking about supersonic propulsion and hypersonic missiles
It is very possible there are additional ones behind the S500 – those missiles are visibly much faster than S300/S400 type. Clearly something different there.
Are there others? We will see but the above is already very significant.
Regarding Russian ammunition production: This video talks about Russian ammo production of 58000 per month plus 141000 refurbished shells per month but the source is “Russian military bloggers”. Overall, the video is heavily pro-Ukrainian but is only about 40% bullshit which is amazing for an Economist output. It does make an egregiously wrong statement: there are no materials issues for artillery production – egregiously wrong because the US military bought TNT from Japan precisely due to materials shortages.
However, the key takeaway is the above ~200K/month production is vs. US 25K/month and Europe 5K/month numbers. LOL West MIC.

Posted by: c1ue | Sep 14 2023 14:17 utc | 15

@b
Putin’s new principles – we don’t know what all of them are but we do know some of them.
One is the nuclear powered cruising engine. This is what is behind the Poseidon torpedo and the Burestvestnik infinite range cruise missile.
Another (or more likely, several others) is behind the hypersonic missiles: Kinzhal, Avangard, etc. Millenium 7 has a really excellent article talking about supersonic propulsion and hypersonic missiles
It is very possible there are additional ones behind the S500 – those missiles are visibly much faster than S300/S400 type. Clearly something different there.
Are there others? We will see but the above is already very significant.
Regarding Russian ammunition production: This video talks about Russian ammo production of 58000 per month plus 141000 refurbished shells per month but the source is “Russian military bloggers”. Overall, the video is heavily pro-Ukrainian but is only about 40% bullshit which is amazing for an Economist output. It does make an egregiously wrong statement: there are no materials issues for artillery production – egregiously wrong because the US military bought TNT from Japan precisely due to materials shortages.
However, the key takeaway is the above ~200K/month production is vs. US 25K/month and Europe 5K/month numbers. LOL West MIC.

Posted by: c1ue | Sep 14 2023 14:17 utc | 16

Think of the corruption and graft required to make one artillery shell cost $5000

Posted by: Fred777 | Sep 14 2023 14:18 utc | 17

Think of the corruption and graft required to make one artillery shell cost $5000

Posted by: Fred777 | Sep 14 2023 14:18 utc | 18

“Russia’s production costs are also far lower than the West’s, in part because Moscow is sacrificing safety and quality in its effort to build weapons more cheaply”
“Sacrificing safety and quality” Good god,the barbarians! I love the weasel phrase that says ‘in part’ without mentioning the far bigger reason why Russia can exponentially increase its weapon/munition capacity, namely low energy costs. I guess that’s the elephant in the room.

Posted by: FakeBelieve | Sep 14 2023 14:29 utc | 19

“Russia’s production costs are also far lower than the West’s, in part because Moscow is sacrificing safety and quality in its effort to build weapons more cheaply”
“Sacrificing safety and quality” Good god,the barbarians! I love the weasel phrase that says ‘in part’ without mentioning the far bigger reason why Russia can exponentially increase its weapon/munition capacity, namely low energy costs. I guess that’s the elephant in the room.

Posted by: FakeBelieve | Sep 14 2023 14:29 utc | 20

The crucial is that the collective West is not afraid of Russia any more.
Therefore it would escalate and escalate.
We can deny it, but that is truth.

Posted by: Simplex | Sep 14 2023 14:32 utc | 21

The crucial is that the collective West is not afraid of Russia any more.
Therefore it would escalate and escalate.
We can deny it, but that is truth.

Posted by: Simplex | Sep 14 2023 14:32 utc | 22

As of Sept 7, 2023 Mediazona apparently counted 22,909 military deaths in Russia and the most curious part is that the period of the “counter offensive” is the lowest casualties have been for quite a while.

Posted by: leaf | Sep 14 2023 14:35 utc | 23

As of Sept 7, 2023 Mediazona apparently counted 22,909 military deaths in Russia and the most curious part is that the period of the “counter offensive” is the lowest casualties have been for quite a while.

Posted by: leaf | Sep 14 2023 14:35 utc | 24

He also mentioned that same of these were based on “new physical principles” which had been discovered by Russian scientists.

I am guessing this is related to Directed Energy Weapons based on e.g. microwaves. The US is also working with this (and trying them out too).
We can only speculate what the new physical principles boil down to. Personally, I speculate that directed energy weapons are able to excite molecules in e.g. metals and when the frequency of excitation matches the eigenfrequency of the molecules, the bonds between the molecules break down and the metal turns to dust. Probably different frequencies and energy levels for different metals.

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 14 2023 14:35 utc | 25

He also mentioned that same of these were based on “new physical principles” which had been discovered by Russian scientists.

I am guessing this is related to Directed Energy Weapons based on e.g. microwaves. The US is also working with this (and trying them out too).
We can only speculate what the new physical principles boil down to. Personally, I speculate that directed energy weapons are able to excite molecules in e.g. metals and when the frequency of excitation matches the eigenfrequency of the molecules, the bonds between the molecules break down and the metal turns to dust. Probably different frequencies and energy levels for different metals.

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 14 2023 14:35 utc | 26

the collective West is not afraid of Russia
Posted by: Simplex | Sep 14 2023 14:32 utc | 12

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissociative_fugue

Posted by: too scents | Sep 14 2023 14:35 utc | 27

the collective West is not afraid of Russia
Posted by: Simplex | Sep 14 2023 14:32 utc | 12

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissociative_fugue

Posted by: too scents | Sep 14 2023 14:35 utc | 28

Look Russian has plenty of sources to supply its standard 152mm arty ammo.
It now has a robust domestic production of 50 K per month, plus supplies it can purchase from NK, India, China and Serbia.
Meanwhile the Ukraine has no domestic production of 152mm ammo, and must rely on old Soviet stocks (more than likely fully exhausted by this stage of the war), and imported 155mm ammo for its new NATO wonderwaffle………..but there is only a limited supply available. This is due the NATO members desire to retain sufficient stocks for their own armies, and for a highly truncated manufacturing base in Europe and the US (remember Wille Clinton’s remark in the 1990’s that “we dont need manufacturing (steel) in the US anymore we are an intellectual empire, this from a guy who never worked a real job in his entire life).
In fact there is only one 155mm ammon manufacturing plant left in the US, located, yup, you guessed it in Joey’s hometown of Scranton Pa. Huge limited bottleneck here………
So the shortage of 155mm ammo will not be solved anytime soon, no new plants are planned for in the US, and besides this war is nearly at a decisive conclusion…….the Ukes have about one month left…and then the collapse, with Volo and friends fleeing with their billions in cash to Tel Aviv, Geneva and Miami Beach…….end of story….Kabul II is in the offing…..

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Sep 14 2023 14:36 utc | 29

Look Russian has plenty of sources to supply its standard 152mm arty ammo.
It now has a robust domestic production of 50 K per month, plus supplies it can purchase from NK, India, China and Serbia.
Meanwhile the Ukraine has no domestic production of 152mm ammo, and must rely on old Soviet stocks (more than likely fully exhausted by this stage of the war), and imported 155mm ammo for its new NATO wonderwaffle………..but there is only a limited supply available. This is due the NATO members desire to retain sufficient stocks for their own armies, and for a highly truncated manufacturing base in Europe and the US (remember Wille Clinton’s remark in the 1990’s that “we dont need manufacturing (steel) in the US anymore we are an intellectual empire, this from a guy who never worked a real job in his entire life).
In fact there is only one 155mm ammon manufacturing plant left in the US, located, yup, you guessed it in Joey’s hometown of Scranton Pa. Huge limited bottleneck here………
So the shortage of 155mm ammo will not be solved anytime soon, no new plants are planned for in the US, and besides this war is nearly at a decisive conclusion…….the Ukes have about one month left…and then the collapse, with Volo and friends fleeing with their billions in cash to Tel Aviv, Geneva and Miami Beach…….end of story….Kabul II is in the offing…..

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Sep 14 2023 14:36 utc | 30

@simplex
I see no difference in the attitude towards Russia in Europe. It has always been a mix of feeling superior and fear.

Posted by: Orgel | Sep 14 2023 14:37 utc | 31

@simplex
I see no difference in the attitude towards Russia in Europe. It has always been a mix of feeling superior and fear.

Posted by: Orgel | Sep 14 2023 14:37 utc | 32

@leaf | Sep 14 2023 14:35 utc | 13

As of Sept 7, 2023 Mediazona apparently counted 22,909 military deaths in Russia and the most curious part is that the period of the “counter offensive” is the lowest casualties have been for quite a while.

I don’t think this is curious at all, it is by design. The Russians sit in strong defensive positions and are shooting at mindless ‘waves’ of attackers without much protection.

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 14 2023 14:45 utc | 33

@leaf | Sep 14 2023 14:35 utc | 13

As of Sept 7, 2023 Mediazona apparently counted 22,909 military deaths in Russia and the most curious part is that the period of the “counter offensive” is the lowest casualties have been for quite a while.

I don’t think this is curious at all, it is by design. The Russians sit in strong defensive positions and are shooting at mindless ‘waves’ of attackers without much protection.

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 14 2023 14:45 utc | 34

Excellent analysis as usual b.
If Putin isn’t bluffing – I haven’t heard him making any such bluffs over the last few years – true wunderwaffens haven’t yet been on display. The natzos have used Ukrops to use non western weapons to test and see what defences Russia has. As if the Russians wouldn’t have worked out that from before the beginning of the SMO.
The Natzos know they can’t take Crimea militarily.
For these who believe that a one-off spectacular means that victory, I say it’s probably the exit strategy, can declare victory and then can pull out – leaving Ukrops clinging to their aircraft wheel bays..
On which note a quick observation on
@ Posted by: Soothsayer | Sep 14 2023 14:00 utc | 2
“the submarine costs around $300m and the salvo of 10 Storm Shadows fired at it costs around $30 million. Not a bad trade.”
There is an old saying about these who know the price of everything but not the value of anything.
I suggest it is exactly that attitude of the Collective Waste that has run straight into reality that it’s not the number of Monopoly money $ assigned to any widget that matters – but the actual ability and resources to make widgets that matter. Yet again they have failed to take control of the resources of Russia as they have failed for centuries previously.
Back to the drawing board you clowns 🤡

Posted by: DunGroanin | Sep 14 2023 14:51 utc | 35

Excellent analysis as usual b.
If Putin isn’t bluffing – I haven’t heard him making any such bluffs over the last few years – true wunderwaffens haven’t yet been on display. The natzos have used Ukrops to use non western weapons to test and see what defences Russia has. As if the Russians wouldn’t have worked out that from before the beginning of the SMO.
The Natzos know they can’t take Crimea militarily.
For these who believe that a one-off spectacular means that victory, I say it’s probably the exit strategy, can declare victory and then can pull out – leaving Ukrops clinging to their aircraft wheel bays..
On which note a quick observation on
@ Posted by: Soothsayer | Sep 14 2023 14:00 utc | 2
“the submarine costs around $300m and the salvo of 10 Storm Shadows fired at it costs around $30 million. Not a bad trade.”
There is an old saying about these who know the price of everything but not the value of anything.
I suggest it is exactly that attitude of the Collective Waste that has run straight into reality that it’s not the number of Monopoly money $ assigned to any widget that matters – but the actual ability and resources to make widgets that matter. Yet again they have failed to take control of the resources of Russia as they have failed for centuries previously.
Back to the drawing board you clowns 🤡

Posted by: DunGroanin | Sep 14 2023 14:51 utc | 36

There are 10’s of millions of shells everywhere, right now the trick is to slow play the entire planet into war.
The Russians are not being slowly boiled into major escalation the general population of the west is.
Unless you think they lie about everything except having no shells.

Posted by: OohCanada | Sep 14 2023 14:51 utc | 37

There are 10’s of millions of shells everywhere, right now the trick is to slow play the entire planet into war.
The Russians are not being slowly boiled into major escalation the general population of the west is.
Unless you think they lie about everything except having no shells.

Posted by: OohCanada | Sep 14 2023 14:51 utc | 38

canuck @ 6

the economies of the West are crumbling under their tremendous debt loads

The western economies went bankrupt and collapsed in 1929 that didn’t stop them from financing WW2. Germany was the most bankrupt flat out rock bottom busted of the lot and yet off they went on boundless war spending, storming across Europe and Africa. What better way to get out of a debt load than to go to war?
The west going broke won’t prevent WW3, it will guarantee it. You could make the argument that the west went tits up in 2008 and never recovered, it never really wrote down anything just piled on more debt, and WW3 is already well underway.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 14 2023 14:54 utc | 39

canuck @ 6

the economies of the West are crumbling under their tremendous debt loads

The western economies went bankrupt and collapsed in 1929 that didn’t stop them from financing WW2. Germany was the most bankrupt flat out rock bottom busted of the lot and yet off they went on boundless war spending, storming across Europe and Africa. What better way to get out of a debt load than to go to war?
The west going broke won’t prevent WW3, it will guarantee it. You could make the argument that the west went tits up in 2008 and never recovered, it never really wrote down anything just piled on more debt, and WW3 is already well underway.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 14 2023 14:54 utc | 40

We can only speculate what the new physical principles boil down to.
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 14 2023 14:35 utc | 14

Here is a “new physical principle” that has direct applications for directed energy systems and camouflage. Huge implications for radar and EW.
https://www.google.com/search?q=gyroid+optics&tbm=isch
Powerful new technology from the radiance of butterfly wings.

Posted by: too scents | Sep 14 2023 15:02 utc | 41

We can only speculate what the new physical principles boil down to.
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 14 2023 14:35 utc | 14

Here is a “new physical principle” that has direct applications for directed energy systems and camouflage. Huge implications for radar and EW.
https://www.google.com/search?q=gyroid+optics&tbm=isch
Powerful new technology from the radiance of butterfly wings.

Posted by: too scents | Sep 14 2023 15:02 utc | 42

all predicted and predictable as b notes. some people in the US want to double down on this farce, while others want to switch to a new farce in Taiwan. what a mess.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 14 2023 15:02 utc | 43

all predicted and predictable as b notes. some people in the US want to double down on this farce, while others want to switch to a new farce in Taiwan. what a mess.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 14 2023 15:02 utc | 44

When I studied economics we learned about the concepts of “economies of scale” and “the learning curve”. Also “purchasing power parity”. These three things probably make up most of the difference in shell costs. You don’t need to try to explain away this in terms of shoddy workmanship or some such. And let’s face it, a shell does not need to be over engineered given its intended use – ie to be destroyed. Only if the manufacturer was in profit maximisation mode would you think this was a good idea. 2 million shells fit for purpose are better than 200,000 expensive and finely engineered shells.
And I would guess that Russia is producing much more than 2M pa, and looks like it soon will have access to compatible NK stocks and industrial capacity. Possibly Chinese too.

Posted by: marcjf | Sep 14 2023 15:04 utc | 45

When I studied economics we learned about the concepts of “economies of scale” and “the learning curve”. Also “purchasing power parity”. These three things probably make up most of the difference in shell costs. You don’t need to try to explain away this in terms of shoddy workmanship or some such. And let’s face it, a shell does not need to be over engineered given its intended use – ie to be destroyed. Only if the manufacturer was in profit maximisation mode would you think this was a good idea. 2 million shells fit for purpose are better than 200,000 expensive and finely engineered shells.
And I would guess that Russia is producing much more than 2M pa, and looks like it soon will have access to compatible NK stocks and industrial capacity. Possibly Chinese too.

Posted by: marcjf | Sep 14 2023 15:04 utc | 46

I’m not the only one who sees the full scale of what’s happening in Crimea, The blitz to Melitopol and the War of the Black Sea were supposed to coincide, but just cause one failed doesn’t mean the other won’t go ahead. Those thinking the Penatgon and Brits and bumbling along are making a mistake underestimating the opponent.
Notable point: the destruction of the Black Sea fleet ends Russian power projection in Syria and the Middle East. Many birds with one stone. The USA/UK will be relentless on this front:
Such a massive attack on Sevastopol, with such damage, would not have been possible without:
– participation of NATO intelligence
– without NATO-supplied weapons
– without the participation of enemy agents in Sevastopol itself and in Crimea as a whole
Throughout the last week of August and the first days of September, NATO reconnaissance aircraft were indeed active over the Black Sea. That is, preparations went on long before.
The missile attack came in waves. After the first strike, rescuers and firefighters went to the Desna dock. The enemy struck again. Many civilians were injured – they were caught in the blast wave and shrapnel.
Most likely, the attack was combined. Storm Shadow was used as the main weapon of destruction, and, say, the S-200, as an auxiliary weapon, for mass production in order to overload our air defense.
What is the enemy doing? He is trying to lock the Black Sea Fleet in its bases and destroy it. NATO repeats the strategy of the German General Staff during the Great Patriotic War. Unfortunately, we too are repeating our mistakes of that time.
It is fundamentally important for NATO now, while hostilities are ongoing in Ukraine, to finally deprive Russia of the fleet in the Black Sea. Because for now this can be attributed to the actions of Kyiv. “What are we doing? We told them that they couldn’t shoot at Russia. But they did, right?”
What is everything needed for? There is a NATO Black Sea strategy. In short: at some point the Alliance realized that they were too focused on the Baltic and lost ground in the Black Sea. And the bloc’s task is to strengthen its presence in the Black Sea region by strengthening the fleets of Bulgaria and Romania, building new naval bases, which will, if not close the Black Sea to Russia, but weaken the ability to maneuver for our fleet.
Synchronizing the actions of the Baltic and Black Sea groups, according to NATO, will create a de facto cordon against Russia through Eastern Europe. This coincides with Polish ambitions (the Intermarium project). And besides, Washington views the Ukrainian case as part of the confrontation with Russia in the Middle East, as essentially a united front. And not two different conflicts (Friedman report 2014: https://worldview.stratfor.com/article/ukraine-iraq-and-black-sea-strategy ).
Therefore, now, taking advantage of the situation, NATO is simply destroying our fleet with the hands of the Ukrainians. Well, at least he’s trying to do so. At a minimum, weaken him so much that he ceases to be a threat to the Alliance.
Was it predictable, such actions of the enemy? Certainly! Our enemy, I primarily mean the Anglo-Saxons, thinks very systematically. They understand that this war is a direct continuation of the Crimean War, and a continuation of the Great Game. Is it in vain that the British, according to the same schemes, welcomed the Ichkerians at the end of the 20th century and the Circassians in the 30s of the 19th century?
Now it is obvious to the West that it will not have any victory in Ukraine. But nevertheless, they are trying to repeat the situation of 1856, when, according to the Paris Peace Treaty, Russia lost the Black Sea Fleet. Now there will be no such agreement, this is clear to them. Therefore, they are simply trying to destroy our fleet.
Conclusions? What could they be? We have a very serious enemy. He thinks strategically. It would be good for us to learn this too.
Two Majors

https://t.me/two_majors/12075

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 14 2023 15:04 utc | 47

I’m not the only one who sees the full scale of what’s happening in Crimea, The blitz to Melitopol and the War of the Black Sea were supposed to coincide, but just cause one failed doesn’t mean the other won’t go ahead. Those thinking the Penatgon and Brits and bumbling along are making a mistake underestimating the opponent.
Notable point: the destruction of the Black Sea fleet ends Russian power projection in Syria and the Middle East. Many birds with one stone. The USA/UK will be relentless on this front:
Such a massive attack on Sevastopol, with such damage, would not have been possible without:
– participation of NATO intelligence
– without NATO-supplied weapons
– without the participation of enemy agents in Sevastopol itself and in Crimea as a whole
Throughout the last week of August and the first days of September, NATO reconnaissance aircraft were indeed active over the Black Sea. That is, preparations went on long before.
The missile attack came in waves. After the first strike, rescuers and firefighters went to the Desna dock. The enemy struck again. Many civilians were injured – they were caught in the blast wave and shrapnel.
Most likely, the attack was combined. Storm Shadow was used as the main weapon of destruction, and, say, the S-200, as an auxiliary weapon, for mass production in order to overload our air defense.
What is the enemy doing? He is trying to lock the Black Sea Fleet in its bases and destroy it. NATO repeats the strategy of the German General Staff during the Great Patriotic War. Unfortunately, we too are repeating our mistakes of that time.
It is fundamentally important for NATO now, while hostilities are ongoing in Ukraine, to finally deprive Russia of the fleet in the Black Sea. Because for now this can be attributed to the actions of Kyiv. “What are we doing? We told them that they couldn’t shoot at Russia. But they did, right?”
What is everything needed for? There is a NATO Black Sea strategy. In short: at some point the Alliance realized that they were too focused on the Baltic and lost ground in the Black Sea. And the bloc’s task is to strengthen its presence in the Black Sea region by strengthening the fleets of Bulgaria and Romania, building new naval bases, which will, if not close the Black Sea to Russia, but weaken the ability to maneuver for our fleet.
Synchronizing the actions of the Baltic and Black Sea groups, according to NATO, will create a de facto cordon against Russia through Eastern Europe. This coincides with Polish ambitions (the Intermarium project). And besides, Washington views the Ukrainian case as part of the confrontation with Russia in the Middle East, as essentially a united front. And not two different conflicts (Friedman report 2014: https://worldview.stratfor.com/article/ukraine-iraq-and-black-sea-strategy ).
Therefore, now, taking advantage of the situation, NATO is simply destroying our fleet with the hands of the Ukrainians. Well, at least he’s trying to do so. At a minimum, weaken him so much that he ceases to be a threat to the Alliance.
Was it predictable, such actions of the enemy? Certainly! Our enemy, I primarily mean the Anglo-Saxons, thinks very systematically. They understand that this war is a direct continuation of the Crimean War, and a continuation of the Great Game. Is it in vain that the British, according to the same schemes, welcomed the Ichkerians at the end of the 20th century and the Circassians in the 30s of the 19th century?
Now it is obvious to the West that it will not have any victory in Ukraine. But nevertheless, they are trying to repeat the situation of 1856, when, according to the Paris Peace Treaty, Russia lost the Black Sea Fleet. Now there will be no such agreement, this is clear to them. Therefore, they are simply trying to destroy our fleet.
Conclusions? What could they be? We have a very serious enemy. He thinks strategically. It would be good for us to learn this too.
Two Majors

https://t.me/two_majors/12075

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 14 2023 15:04 utc | 48

Anyone remember back in February 2022? Russian sent a huge trade delegation to Bejing days before their tanks rolled into Ukraine.
I don’t remember a lot of details about what deals transpired however one that did stick out in my mind was a deal with Huawei to “modernize and network” Russian manufacturing.
They made no mentions about which industry would be modernized and who they were networking with however given the timing of the deal and Russian manufacturing numbers it’s not hard to guess.
When asked if Russia was a military ally Chairman Xi stated that China and Russia “were more than allies” and that they “stood back to back”. I think we’re beginning to see evidence of that relationship in Russian manufacturing numbers and I expect to see many more developments in the military sphere as the “networking” aspect of the deal comes online.
I read two headlines recently … one said China was in for an economic slowdown … the other said Russia has a skilled manpower shortage that was about to cripple manufacturing growth. I wouldn’t be surprised to see future employment opportunities for both Chinese and North Korean workers in Russia

Posted by: HB_Norica | Sep 14 2023 15:11 utc | 49

Anyone remember back in February 2022? Russian sent a huge trade delegation to Bejing days before their tanks rolled into Ukraine.
I don’t remember a lot of details about what deals transpired however one that did stick out in my mind was a deal with Huawei to “modernize and network” Russian manufacturing.
They made no mentions about which industry would be modernized and who they were networking with however given the timing of the deal and Russian manufacturing numbers it’s not hard to guess.
When asked if Russia was a military ally Chairman Xi stated that China and Russia “were more than allies” and that they “stood back to back”. I think we’re beginning to see evidence of that relationship in Russian manufacturing numbers and I expect to see many more developments in the military sphere as the “networking” aspect of the deal comes online.
I read two headlines recently … one said China was in for an economic slowdown … the other said Russia has a skilled manpower shortage that was about to cripple manufacturing growth. I wouldn’t be surprised to see future employment opportunities for both Chinese and North Korean workers in Russia

Posted by: HB_Norica | Sep 14 2023 15:11 utc | 50

This NYT article is gaslighting 101. The West seems to have an inexhaustible supply of money and arms it’s funneling into Ukraine. The Ukrainians don’t seem to be running out of manpower either, despite all the claims by Russia’s MOD. If anything, it seems like Russia is running out of time/weapons/will to win.

Posted by: bored | Sep 14 2023 15:14 utc | 51

This NYT article is gaslighting 101. The West seems to have an inexhaustible supply of money and arms it’s funneling into Ukraine. The Ukrainians don’t seem to be running out of manpower either, despite all the claims by Russia’s MOD. If anything, it seems like Russia is running out of time/weapons/will to win.

Posted by: bored | Sep 14 2023 15:14 utc | 52

As always, excellent reporting – since Western media has mostly abrogated any pretence to informing the public, b does an admirable job keeping us proles up to date.
The West has found itself in a new arms race, already several years behind in many key technologies, and in a woeful position to depress their economies further to increase arms production. I hope sanity prevails and climbdowns start but this sometimes feels a forlorn hope.
From the so-called clobber report:

The enemy’s losses for the day have amounted to around 350 servicemen killed and wounded, three armoured fighting vehicles, five motor vehicles, three U.S.-made M777 and M109 howitzers and one D-30 howitzer.

This may have alredy been disucssed but – how many of these m777 can be left? They have been featured in nearly every one of these butchers bills that I can remember and usually in numbers.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Sep 14 2023 15:15 utc | 53

As always, excellent reporting – since Western media has mostly abrogated any pretence to informing the public, b does an admirable job keeping us proles up to date.
The West has found itself in a new arms race, already several years behind in many key technologies, and in a woeful position to depress their economies further to increase arms production. I hope sanity prevails and climbdowns start but this sometimes feels a forlorn hope.
From the so-called clobber report:

The enemy’s losses for the day have amounted to around 350 servicemen killed and wounded, three armoured fighting vehicles, five motor vehicles, three U.S.-made M777 and M109 howitzers and one D-30 howitzer.

This may have alredy been disucssed but – how many of these m777 can be left? They have been featured in nearly every one of these butchers bills that I can remember and usually in numbers.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Sep 14 2023 15:15 utc | 54

The West seems to have an inexhaustible supply of money and arms

Nothing in our mortal existence is infinite except hubris. When this shit show stops, the real show begins.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Sep 14 2023 15:17 utc | 55

The West seems to have an inexhaustible supply of money and arms

Nothing in our mortal existence is infinite except hubris. When this shit show stops, the real show begins.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Sep 14 2023 15:17 utc | 56

Posted by: too scents | Sep 14 2023 15:02 utc | 23
Okay, so maybe I have back down from phasers and photon torpedoes. But you ARE describing cloaking devices.
Don’t be surprised if the Russians announce the launching of a sixth generation fighter jet called хищная птица.

Posted by: Jörgen Hassler | Sep 14 2023 15:26 utc | 57

Posted by: too scents | Sep 14 2023 15:02 utc | 23
Okay, so maybe I have back down from phasers and photon torpedoes. But you ARE describing cloaking devices.
Don’t be surprised if the Russians announce the launching of a sixth generation fighter jet called хищная птица.

Posted by: Jörgen Hassler | Sep 14 2023 15:26 utc | 58

HB_Norica @ 27
If it is going to become WW3 China will play the financial and industrial roll the USA played in WW2 for England, France, and the USSR. WW2 didn’t just go bang on day one, it also built up by degrees, the more China is dragged into the SMO, the bigger it’s roll becomes, the weaker the west’s hand will become, to the point of criticality. Honestly, I don’t see how the west stands a chance. Neocon delusions and miscalculations will end just like Imperial Japan and Nazi delusions and miscalculations.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 14 2023 15:30 utc | 59

HB_Norica @ 27
If it is going to become WW3 China will play the financial and industrial roll the USA played in WW2 for England, France, and the USSR. WW2 didn’t just go bang on day one, it also built up by degrees, the more China is dragged into the SMO, the bigger it’s roll becomes, the weaker the west’s hand will become, to the point of criticality. Honestly, I don’t see how the west stands a chance. Neocon delusions and miscalculations will end just like Imperial Japan and Nazi delusions and miscalculations.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 14 2023 15:30 utc | 60

Posted by: Elmagnostic | Sep 14 2023 14:16 utc | 7
The US military and its complex, at breakneck speed, are producing yachts and mansions 24-7.
You forgot to mention Ukrainian millionaires….

Posted by: ctiger | Sep 14 2023 15:32 utc | 61

Posted by: Elmagnostic | Sep 14 2023 14:16 utc | 7
The US military and its complex, at breakneck speed, are producing yachts and mansions 24-7.
You forgot to mention Ukrainian millionaires….

Posted by: ctiger | Sep 14 2023 15:32 utc | 62

thanks b… good overview as always..
@ LightYearsFromHome | Sep 14 2023 15:04 utc | 26
its a good question.. i think at some point russia will have to go after the nato assets that are allowing for the attack on sevastopol to continue.. yes, nato and friends still think this is out of russias domain, but the fact is these assets are being used by nato to do exactly as the writer in that telegram post describe… russia has to address this, and although they know they are crossing a line to do so – it has to be done… nato and friends have already crossed many lines – nordstream being the biggest and most obvious.. that is my take.. thanks for your posts..

Posted by: james | Sep 14 2023 15:35 utc | 63

thanks b… good overview as always..
@ LightYearsFromHome | Sep 14 2023 15:04 utc | 26
its a good question.. i think at some point russia will have to go after the nato assets that are allowing for the attack on sevastopol to continue.. yes, nato and friends still think this is out of russias domain, but the fact is these assets are being used by nato to do exactly as the writer in that telegram post describe… russia has to address this, and although they know they are crossing a line to do so – it has to be done… nato and friends have already crossed many lines – nordstream being the biggest and most obvious.. that is my take.. thanks for your posts..

Posted by: james | Sep 14 2023 15:35 utc | 64

Posted by: Elmagnostic | Sep 14 2023 14:16 utc | 7
The US military and its complex, at breakneck speed, are producing yachts and mansions 24-7.
You forgot to mention Ukrainian millionaires….

Posted by: ctiger | Sep 14 2023 15:36 utc | 65

Posted by: Elmagnostic | Sep 14 2023 14:16 utc | 7
The US military and its complex, at breakneck speed, are producing yachts and mansions 24-7.
You forgot to mention Ukrainian millionaires….

Posted by: ctiger | Sep 14 2023 15:36 utc | 66

There is nothing to stop a 80386 fire control system from putting a first round within 60 seconds and 50 meters from a target so long as you have accurate target designation and tubes. That is some cheap gps laser designator also run by a 80386 and the cheapest of radio transmitters to the Fire Control .. As b said not much you are missing out on with 2 generation old tech… What about night vision..? The Ukrainians have been attacking a lot at night and they have got to be losing a lot of them near the Russian lines. Russian’s just need to make the batteries…
Can anyone win this war…. Do not think so. This is a loose loose for everyone and it is not even performing it’s primary function to get Biden reelected. It is a Biden FUBAR.

Posted by: ATM | Sep 14 2023 15:43 utc | 67

There is nothing to stop a 80386 fire control system from putting a first round within 60 seconds and 50 meters from a target so long as you have accurate target designation and tubes. That is some cheap gps laser designator also run by a 80386 and the cheapest of radio transmitters to the Fire Control .. As b said not much you are missing out on with 2 generation old tech… What about night vision..? The Ukrainians have been attacking a lot at night and they have got to be losing a lot of them near the Russian lines. Russian’s just need to make the batteries…
Can anyone win this war…. Do not think so. This is a loose loose for everyone and it is not even performing it’s primary function to get Biden reelected. It is a Biden FUBAR.

Posted by: ATM | Sep 14 2023 15:43 utc | 68

Is it too far fetched to expect a mystery explosion occurring on a US attack sub inside one of their dry docks?

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 14 2023 15:45 utc | 69

Is it too far fetched to expect a mystery explosion occurring on a US attack sub inside one of their dry docks?

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 14 2023 15:45 utc | 70

Ooops I forgot that Russia also has access to Iranian manufactured 152mm ammo, that is in addition to supplies it can receive from its own domestic production, NK, Chinese, Indian, Serbian and Iranian plants……they should be good to go for over 2M + 152mm shells per year……more than enough for the task at hand……

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Sep 14 2023 15:46 utc | 71

Ooops I forgot that Russia also has access to Iranian manufactured 152mm ammo, that is in addition to supplies it can receive from its own domestic production, NK, Chinese, Indian, Serbian and Iranian plants……they should be good to go for over 2M + 152mm shells per year……more than enough for the task at hand……

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Sep 14 2023 15:46 utc | 72

For instance, it costs a Western country $5,000 to $6,000 to make a 155-millimeter artillery round, whereas it costs Russia about $600 to produce a comparable 152-millimeter artillery shell, he said.
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USA was a pioneer in mass production of metal products, e.g. Ford cars, and this art is not lost, but MIC definitely prefers high profit “artisanal production”…

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Sep 14 2023 15:47 utc | 73

For instance, it costs a Western country $5,000 to $6,000 to make a 155-millimeter artillery round, whereas it costs Russia about $600 to produce a comparable 152-millimeter artillery shell, he said.
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USA was a pioneer in mass production of metal products, e.g. Ford cars, and this art is not lost, but MIC definitely prefers high profit “artisanal production”…

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Sep 14 2023 15:47 utc | 74

there’s still no sign Ukraine is running low on anything. even the air defenses which were supposedly depleted since May or June according to the Pentagon leaks seem to have been supplied. Ukraine still has artillery systems, and there are more than enough vehicles for one or more of these offensives. some will laugh at Leopard 1s being sent, but like T-55s they have a role on quiet fronts especially when supported by drones. this is nowhere near over

Posted by: abel | Sep 14 2023 15:49 utc | 75

there’s still no sign Ukraine is running low on anything. even the air defenses which were supposedly depleted since May or June according to the Pentagon leaks seem to have been supplied. Ukraine still has artillery systems, and there are more than enough vehicles for one or more of these offensives. some will laugh at Leopard 1s being sent, but like T-55s they have a role on quiet fronts especially when supported by drones. this is nowhere near over

Posted by: abel | Sep 14 2023 15:49 utc | 76

It’s kind of weird being an American and rooting against my own country, but what they’ve done in Ukraine is beyond the pale. And now they are using the Kiev regime as cover so they can stage direct attacks on Sevastopol, all the while pretending they have nothing to do with it. It makes me sick to my stomach.

Posted by: Frank McGar | Sep 14 2023 15:50 utc | 77

It’s kind of weird being an American and rooting against my own country, but what they’ve done in Ukraine is beyond the pale. And now they are using the Kiev regime as cover so they can stage direct attacks on Sevastopol, all the while pretending they have nothing to do with it. It makes me sick to my stomach.

Posted by: Frank McGar | Sep 14 2023 15:50 utc | 78

StarLink was supposedly neutralized on September 13th morning during the attack of AFU sea drones on Sevastopol. Consequentially, the contact to the drones were lost.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 14 2023 15:51 utc | 79

StarLink was supposedly neutralized on September 13th morning during the attack of AFU sea drones on Sevastopol. Consequentially, the contact to the drones were lost.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 14 2023 15:51 utc | 80

Sputnik, let’s see if it works:
What Does Putin Mean by Weapons Based on ‘New Physical Principles’?

Posted by: Bemildred | Sep 14 2023 15:52 utc | 81

Sputnik, let’s see if it works:
What Does Putin Mean by Weapons Based on ‘New Physical Principles’?

Posted by: Bemildred | Sep 14 2023 15:52 utc | 82

@ unimperator | Sep 14 2023 15:51 utc | 46
thanks.. i am curious how that is supposed to work?

Posted by: james | Sep 14 2023 15:59 utc | 83

@ unimperator | Sep 14 2023 15:51 utc | 46
thanks.. i am curious how that is supposed to work?

Posted by: james | Sep 14 2023 15:59 utc | 84

Our source reports that the entire Ukrainian elite is waiting for the UN General Assembly and Zelensky’s trip to the United States.
Everyone will be watching closely:
1) Ze meetings (official/backstage)
2) rhetoric
3) the result of the trip (will there be any real goodies or just promises and idle talk
4) press interest in Ze and what publications will be published. What questions will they ask him? Many are confident that the Western press will be more interested in large-scale corruption in Ukraine, against the backdrop of a failed offensive.
5) will there be a meeting with Biden?
If the trip as a whole is a “failure”, “empty”, then this will be the last signal from the West that Zelensky has played out a tool (leaked by Ze).
Among all our sources, more than 65% support the option that the trip as a whole will be “empty.”

https://t.me/legitimniy/16254

Posted by: Down South | Sep 14 2023 16:01 utc | 85

Our source reports that the entire Ukrainian elite is waiting for the UN General Assembly and Zelensky’s trip to the United States.
Everyone will be watching closely:
1) Ze meetings (official/backstage)
2) rhetoric
3) the result of the trip (will there be any real goodies or just promises and idle talk
4) press interest in Ze and what publications will be published. What questions will they ask him? Many are confident that the Western press will be more interested in large-scale corruption in Ukraine, against the backdrop of a failed offensive.
5) will there be a meeting with Biden?
If the trip as a whole is a “failure”, “empty”, then this will be the last signal from the West that Zelensky has played out a tool (leaked by Ze).
Among all our sources, more than 65% support the option that the trip as a whole will be “empty.”

https://t.me/legitimniy/16254

Posted by: Down South | Sep 14 2023 16:01 utc | 86

The idea that Russia needs ammo from North Korea is another example. It is projecting the US problem onto Russia.
It matters more, because it obscures from us what is really happening with North Korea, which is “horizontal escalation,” as a further price for Biden’s bad choices provoking the Ukraine War.

Posted by: Mark Thomason | Sep 14 2023 16:03 utc | 87

The idea that Russia needs ammo from North Korea is another example. It is projecting the US problem onto Russia.
It matters more, because it obscures from us what is really happening with North Korea, which is “horizontal escalation,” as a further price for Biden’s bad choices provoking the Ukraine War.

Posted by: Mark Thomason | Sep 14 2023 16:03 utc | 88

Shade @ 38

USA doesn’t have rockets to launch satellites

Eh? Unlike Russia, China, India, the citizens of the USA no longer launch rockets, the corporations do, in the west it’s been fully privatized. They have plenty of rockets, likely more than ever as it’s an even bigger grift now. That’s the big difference between industrial capitalism and neoliberal capitalism, leverage the grift.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 14 2023 16:03 utc | 89

Shade @ 38

USA doesn’t have rockets to launch satellites

Eh? Unlike Russia, China, India, the citizens of the USA no longer launch rockets, the corporations do, in the west it’s been fully privatized. They have plenty of rockets, likely more than ever as it’s an even bigger grift now. That’s the big difference between industrial capitalism and neoliberal capitalism, leverage the grift.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 14 2023 16:03 utc | 90

Our source in the OP said that after the NATO summit, the apparatus struggle on Bankova intensified, and Andrei Ermak’s positions began to weaken. After Reznikov’s dismissal, all the elites realized that the Head of the Presidential Office had lost the support of the United States, which means it was worth joining forces to overthrow the almighty gray eminence.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/19653

Posted by: Down South | Sep 14 2023 16:04 utc | 91

Our source in the OP said that after the NATO summit, the apparatus struggle on Bankova intensified, and Andrei Ermak’s positions began to weaken. After Reznikov’s dismissal, all the elites realized that the Head of the Presidential Office had lost the support of the United States, which means it was worth joining forces to overthrow the almighty gray eminence.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/19653

Posted by: Down South | Sep 14 2023 16:04 utc | 92

Russia is not sacrificing Safety and Quality. The results on the battlefield exceed the western crap.
Russia’s military expense has always been 1/10 of the USA with far better results.
The USA military budget “10%” for the big guy chain of expenses ten folds their expense total budget

Posted by: J | Sep 14 2023 16:04 utc | 93

Russia is not sacrificing Safety and Quality. The results on the battlefield exceed the western crap.
Russia’s military expense has always been 1/10 of the USA with far better results.
The USA military budget “10%” for the big guy chain of expenses ten folds their expense total budget

Posted by: J | Sep 14 2023 16:04 utc | 94

Given Russian’s superior air defense systems with S-300/400 radars covering the airport from which the attack was launched, these missiles should not have hit Russia’s key Black Sea Naval base, and the multiple S-34s that launched the missiles should have been shot down. If they were fighting the US there would be no base, and meantime, Russia seems to be losing much of its Black Sea fleet. Where is the HOLE in the Russ’ vaunted missile defense system?

Posted by: JimG | Sep 14 2023 16:08 utc | 95

Given Russian’s superior air defense systems with S-300/400 radars covering the airport from which the attack was launched, these missiles should not have hit Russia’s key Black Sea Naval base, and the multiple S-34s that launched the missiles should have been shot down. If they were fighting the US there would be no base, and meantime, Russia seems to be losing much of its Black Sea fleet. Where is the HOLE in the Russ’ vaunted missile defense system?

Posted by: JimG | Sep 14 2023 16:08 utc | 96

@ c1ue | Sep 14 2023 14:17 utc | 9
Good to see you back here: old fashioned quality input.

Posted by: Antonym | Sep 14 2023 16:08 utc | 97

@ c1ue | Sep 14 2023 14:17 utc | 9
Good to see you back here: old fashioned quality input.

Posted by: Antonym | Sep 14 2023 16:08 utc | 98

“there’s still no sign Ukraine is running low on anything.” Posted by: abel | Sep 14 2023 15:49 utc | 44
No actually there is … Russians are reporting that Ukrainian short and medium range arty are being used extremely sparingly and counter battery work is now done with HIMARS. In fact HIMARS is being used to target single soldiers and soft skinned vehicles at short to medium ranges. That begs the question”where is Ukrainian artillery?”

Posted by: HB_Norica | Sep 14 2023 16:09 utc | 99

“there’s still no sign Ukraine is running low on anything.” Posted by: abel | Sep 14 2023 15:49 utc | 44
No actually there is … Russians are reporting that Ukrainian short and medium range arty are being used extremely sparingly and counter battery work is now done with HIMARS. In fact HIMARS is being used to target single soldiers and soft skinned vehicles at short to medium ranges. That begs the question”where is Ukrainian artillery?”

Posted by: HB_Norica | Sep 14 2023 16:09 utc | 100