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September 29, 2023
Open (Not Ukraine) Thread 226

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For the curious/interested, I’m posting two links to brief reports on the Canada-India dispute involving the killing of Sikh leader, Hardeep Singh Nijjar. They show a bit of the views, the wider context, and related issues being shared through Canadian media.
From CBC’s the National (2 min 20)
https://youtu.be/I0bF3MW0Hmk
From Canada’s Global News (also 2 mins 20)
https://youtu.be/2L8fYfN5veo
“What are the Five Eyes?” A CBC report explains where the Indian info came from
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/five-eyes-canada-india-1.6972210
It kind of looks like, per usual, other countries may position this as a Canada thing, while domestically, Canada positions this as a Canada et al thing, just one spoke in a big wheel.

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Sep 29 2023 11:13 utc | 1

For the curious/interested, I’m posting two links to brief reports on the Canada-India dispute involving the killing of Sikh leader, Hardeep Singh Nijjar. They show a bit of the views, the wider context, and related issues being shared through Canadian media.
From CBC’s the National (2 min 20)
https://youtu.be/I0bF3MW0Hmk
From Canada’s Global News (also 2 mins 20)
https://youtu.be/2L8fYfN5veo
“What are the Five Eyes?” A CBC report explains where the Indian info came from
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/five-eyes-canada-india-1.6972210
It kind of looks like, per usual, other countries may position this as a Canada thing, while domestically, Canada positions this as a Canada et al thing, just one spoke in a big wheel.

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Sep 29 2023 11:13 utc | 2

@ b
Dear b, one very minor usability issue: could You please consider providing a permalink *at top* of each article (such as, for example, turning the headline into a non-link-colored link; or moving the “Posted by b at xyz UTC” up)?
For many years, I have been enjoying Your posts, and so many deepfelt thanks for all the time and strength You put into those; at the same time, it has been always disrupted reading when I had to switch pages after the first couple paragraphs. (Admittedly, I could always _first_ scroll down to the permalink and only _then_ start reading, but — well, in most cases one does get hooked immediately…)
Pretty please?

Posted by: Anon | Sep 29 2023 11:24 utc | 3

@ b
Dear b, one very minor usability issue: could You please consider providing a permalink *at top* of each article (such as, for example, turning the headline into a non-link-colored link; or moving the “Posted by b at xyz UTC” up)?
For many years, I have been enjoying Your posts, and so many deepfelt thanks for all the time and strength You put into those; at the same time, it has been always disrupted reading when I had to switch pages after the first couple paragraphs. (Admittedly, I could always _first_ scroll down to the permalink and only _then_ start reading, but — well, in most cases one does get hooked immediately…)
Pretty please?

Posted by: Anon | Sep 29 2023 11:24 utc | 4

Bruised Northerner @ 1:
Do you know if the Canadian government has offered actual evidence of Indian involvement in Hardeep Singh Nijjar’s killing? Or is Justin Bieber Trudeau simply restating whatever fluff comes into his head, that Delhi sent agents into Canada to kill Nijjar and any other information that contradicts the official government narrative is simply more “Russian disinformation”?

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Sep 29 2023 11:28 utc | 5

Bruised Northerner @ 1:
Do you know if the Canadian government has offered actual evidence of Indian involvement in Hardeep Singh Nijjar’s killing? Or is Justin Bieber Trudeau simply restating whatever fluff comes into his head, that Delhi sent agents into Canada to kill Nijjar and any other information that contradicts the official government narrative is simply more “Russian disinformation”?

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Sep 29 2023 11:28 utc | 6

Sputnik news seems to be blocked where I am. Does anyone know where I can find it?

Posted by: Spasie | Sep 29 2023 12:03 utc | 7

Sputnik news seems to be blocked where I am. Does anyone know where I can find it?

Posted by: Spasie | Sep 29 2023 12:03 utc | 8

@ 3
Well, in that Global News link, at about the one minute mark, opposition party NDP leader Jagmeet Singh says he can confirm that there’s clear intelligence that Canada has, or something like that.

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Sep 29 2023 12:06 utc | 9

@ 3
Well, in that Global News link, at about the one minute mark, opposition party NDP leader Jagmeet Singh says he can confirm that there’s clear intelligence that Canada has, or something like that.

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Sep 29 2023 12:06 utc | 10

Saying you can confirm intelligence is ridiculous. They need to release evidence or shut up. It’s like ‘WMD is there, trust us’. No, get fucked.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Sep 29 2023 12:34 utc | 11

Saying you can confirm intelligence is ridiculous. They need to release evidence or shut up. It’s like ‘WMD is there, trust us’. No, get fucked.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Sep 29 2023 12:34 utc | 12

I’m sure the Daily Mail can put this Canada-India dispute over the killing of Nijjar in some order. This article does note “at least some of the evidence was provided by a ‘Five Eyes’ ally”
“Justin Trudeau accused India of assassinating Sikh leader outside temple in Canada after surveilling Indian diplomats, with allegation sparking huge diplomatic rift”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12550379/Justin-Trudeau-Canada-India-assassination-surveillance.html
A few excerpts:
“The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, did not say which ally provided intelligence, or give details of what was contained in the communications or how they were obtained.” ….
“ ‘Security threats being faced by our High Commission and consulates in Canada have disrupted their normal functioning,’ Bagchi told reporters. He gave no details on the alleged threats.” ….
“India’s security and intelligence branches have long been active in South Asia and are suspected in a number of killings in Pakistan.”
UK military chief says Russian defended stronger than expected, reports RT, in what I guess would be a warning to the Western alliance/supporters backing Ukraine
https://www.rt.com/russia/583760-radakin-strong-russian-defenses/

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Sep 29 2023 12:58 utc | 13

I’m sure the Daily Mail can put this Canada-India dispute over the killing of Nijjar in some order. This article does note “at least some of the evidence was provided by a ‘Five Eyes’ ally”
“Justin Trudeau accused India of assassinating Sikh leader outside temple in Canada after surveilling Indian diplomats, with allegation sparking huge diplomatic rift”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12550379/Justin-Trudeau-Canada-India-assassination-surveillance.html
A few excerpts:
“The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, did not say which ally provided intelligence, or give details of what was contained in the communications or how they were obtained.” ….
“ ‘Security threats being faced by our High Commission and consulates in Canada have disrupted their normal functioning,’ Bagchi told reporters. He gave no details on the alleged threats.” ….
“India’s security and intelligence branches have long been active in South Asia and are suspected in a number of killings in Pakistan.”
UK military chief says Russian defended stronger than expected, reports RT, in what I guess would be a warning to the Western alliance/supporters backing Ukraine
https://www.rt.com/russia/583760-radakin-strong-russian-defenses/

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Sep 29 2023 12:58 utc | 14

How does this inquiry impact the likelihood of nuclear war? By Patrick Lawrence
https://consortiumnews.com/2023/09/29/impeachment-innuendo-and-evidence/
… For many weeks the Democratic Party and the media that cravenly serve it have dismissed House investigations into the Biden family’s potentially corrupt overseas business dealings as frivolous, ungrounded, and wholly partisan. Consortium News takes the allegations of presidential involvement in numerous bribery and influence-peddling schemes to be comparable in magnitude with those against President Nixon during the Watergate crisis. With the opening of formal hearings Thursday, CN begins regular coverage and analysis of the proceedings. What follows is our inaugural report.

Posted by: Erichwwk | Sep 29 2023 13:01 utc | 15

How does this inquiry impact the likelihood of nuclear war? By Patrick Lawrence
https://consortiumnews.com/2023/09/29/impeachment-innuendo-and-evidence/
… For many weeks the Democratic Party and the media that cravenly serve it have dismissed House investigations into the Biden family’s potentially corrupt overseas business dealings as frivolous, ungrounded, and wholly partisan. Consortium News takes the allegations of presidential involvement in numerous bribery and influence-peddling schemes to be comparable in magnitude with those against President Nixon during the Watergate crisis. With the opening of formal hearings Thursday, CN begins regular coverage and analysis of the proceedings. What follows is our inaugural report.

Posted by: Erichwwk | Sep 29 2023 13:01 utc | 16

@bruised northerner 1
While Rani laxmi bai was fighting for India the sardars(Sikhs) were killing Hindus and Muslim Indians in lucknow and kanpur on behalf of Britisher who’s slavery they were doing. Sadly after independence the same traitor sikh regiments were stupidly kept in indian army even after 1984 when Sikhs had killed a sitting pm and opposition was still demanding compensation for the Sikhs!
Sikhs are not Hindus. This Hindus must understand. Sikhs killed Hindu Indians in sepoy mutiny of 1857. In panipat war of 1761 the Punjabis sided with Muslim Afghan Abdali against Hindu Marathas. In early 1900s Sikhs wanted from British separate category other than in Hindu . Sikhs and all Punjabis should be kicked out with khalistan capital at Lahore

Posted by: Sam | Sep 29 2023 13:41 utc | 17

@bruised northerner 1
While Rani laxmi bai was fighting for India the sardars(Sikhs) were killing Hindus and Muslim Indians in lucknow and kanpur on behalf of Britisher who’s slavery they were doing. Sadly after independence the same traitor sikh regiments were stupidly kept in indian army even after 1984 when Sikhs had killed a sitting pm and opposition was still demanding compensation for the Sikhs!
Sikhs are not Hindus. This Hindus must understand. Sikhs killed Hindu Indians in sepoy mutiny of 1857. In panipat war of 1761 the Punjabis sided with Muslim Afghan Abdali against Hindu Marathas. In early 1900s Sikhs wanted from British separate category other than in Hindu . Sikhs and all Punjabis should be kicked out with khalistan capital at Lahore

Posted by: Sam | Sep 29 2023 13:41 utc | 18

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4229414-house-overwhelmingly-approves-ukraine-aid/
This could be a clever move. Congress gets to say they approved of aid to Ukraine and keep it out of shutdown politics. And $300 million is nothing compared to the economic black hole that Ukraine has become.

Posted by: Eighthman | Sep 29 2023 13:48 utc | 19

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4229414-house-overwhelmingly-approves-ukraine-aid/
This could be a clever move. Congress gets to say they approved of aid to Ukraine and keep it out of shutdown politics. And $300 million is nothing compared to the economic black hole that Ukraine has become.

Posted by: Eighthman | Sep 29 2023 13:48 utc | 20

I would recommend everyone read Larry Johnson’s new article “America not so beautiful…”

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Sep 29 2023 13:52 utc | 21

I would recommend everyone read Larry Johnson’s new article “America not so beautiful…”

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Sep 29 2023 13:52 utc | 22

death of a senior Senator from California will put a little spin on many balls.

Posted by: Not Ewe | Sep 29 2023 13:56 utc | 23

death of a senior Senator from California will put a little spin on many balls.

Posted by: Not Ewe | Sep 29 2023 13:56 utc | 24

Posted by: Not Ewe | Sep 29 2023 13:56 utc | 12
Once they’ve pumped the body full of embalming fluids, they can still wheelchair her into the senate for one last vote.

Posted by: Mike R | Sep 29 2023 14:03 utc | 25

Posted by: Not Ewe | Sep 29 2023 13:56 utc | 12
Once they’ve pumped the body full of embalming fluids, they can still wheelchair her into the senate for one last vote.

Posted by: Mike R | Sep 29 2023 14:03 utc | 26

🛬 Russian air defense has shot down a Russian SU-35 over Tokmak and the pilot died.

Posted by: SlowSoft | Sep 29 2023 14:06 utc | 27

🛬 Russian air defense has shot down a Russian SU-35 over Tokmak and the pilot died.

Posted by: SlowSoft | Sep 29 2023 14:06 utc | 28

https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/83252

Forwarded from
The 🇮🇪 Irishman in Russia 🇷🇺(Chay Bowes)
This story regarding NATOs secretive Vaccine research is being widely ignored by the Western Client Media, Why? @irishmaninrussia

http://eu-chronicle.eu/2023/09/natos-secret-war/

A lot of questions ought to be raised inside the Elysée
by Chay Bowes
Hackers likely hacked into the server of the NATO Scientific Collaboration support office in Paris and published secret documents. These documents reveal extremely shocking facts, namely: the low effectiveness of the Pfizer vaccine against the new strain of Omicron, the high risk of developmental pathologies of the embryo and cardiovascular diseases after the injection of the vaccine, and the implementation place by NATO of dangerous experiments in the heart of Paris and its surroundings.

Posted by: anon2020 | Sep 29 2023 14:08 utc | 29

https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/83252

Forwarded from
The 🇮🇪 Irishman in Russia 🇷🇺(Chay Bowes)
This story regarding NATOs secretive Vaccine research is being widely ignored by the Western Client Media, Why? @irishmaninrussia

http://eu-chronicle.eu/2023/09/natos-secret-war/

A lot of questions ought to be raised inside the Elysée
by Chay Bowes
Hackers likely hacked into the server of the NATO Scientific Collaboration support office in Paris and published secret documents. These documents reveal extremely shocking facts, namely: the low effectiveness of the Pfizer vaccine against the new strain of Omicron, the high risk of developmental pathologies of the embryo and cardiovascular diseases after the injection of the vaccine, and the implementation place by NATO of dangerous experiments in the heart of Paris and its surroundings.

Posted by: anon2020 | Sep 29 2023 14:08 utc | 30

@ 3 and 5
Alexander Mercouris said yesterday that the “intelligence” comes from the 5-eyes intel orgs and hinted that it was a play to get Modi — Modi must be with them or else, their failed modus operandus, ongoing, being “you are with us or against us.”
Ethically, visionarily and skill-set challenged PMCers stuck in a groundhog day loop of self destruction.
An aside. Karen Kwiatkowsky, former USAF, commented in an interview with Andrew Napolitano, after viewing a clip of Hillary Rodham Clinton giving a speech to her state dept fans, “Hillary has ‘campaign’ hair.” God save us all.

Posted by: suzan | Sep 29 2023 14:25 utc | 31

@ 3 and 5
Alexander Mercouris said yesterday that the “intelligence” comes from the 5-eyes intel orgs and hinted that it was a play to get Modi — Modi must be with them or else, their failed modus operandus, ongoing, being “you are with us or against us.”
Ethically, visionarily and skill-set challenged PMCers stuck in a groundhog day loop of self destruction.
An aside. Karen Kwiatkowsky, former USAF, commented in an interview with Andrew Napolitano, after viewing a clip of Hillary Rodham Clinton giving a speech to her state dept fans, “Hillary has ‘campaign’ hair.” God save us all.

Posted by: suzan | Sep 29 2023 14:25 utc | 32

Hillary still has her treasured dream of becoming US president. god save us all if that happens (doesn’t seem likely, she might get whacked by Michelle)

Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 29 2023 14:44 utc | 33

Hillary still has her treasured dream of becoming US president. god save us all if that happens (doesn’t seem likely, she might get whacked by Michelle)

Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 29 2023 14:44 utc | 34

Not Ewe@12
A good job for Kamala? In the meantime the Governor appoints a replacement?

Posted by: bevin | Sep 29 2023 15:17 utc | 35

Not Ewe@12
A good job for Kamala? In the meantime the Governor appoints a replacement?

Posted by: bevin | Sep 29 2023 15:17 utc | 36

Dianne Feinstein found the exit.
Freeing up the Grim Reaper for other walking Leichen.

Posted by: too scents | Sep 29 2023 15:43 utc | 37

Dianne Feinstein found the exit.
Freeing up the Grim Reaper for other walking Leichen.

Posted by: too scents | Sep 29 2023 15:43 utc | 38

1. Increasingly it seems that the only way to remove a senator from office is to let old age do its work.
2. The Hill reports $300 million in two places, $300 billion in one place. I hope the latter is a typo.
3.

Hillary still has her treasured dream of becoming US president. god save us all if that happens (doesn’t seem likely, she might get whacked by Michelle)
Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 29 2023 14:44 utc | 17

The world would be a so much better place if Killary were whacked by, say, an oncoming freight train or Libyan bayonet. And yes, it’s still “her turn dammit.” As for Michelle, the best and perhaps only compelling argument in favor of her candidacy is that she’s evinced no interest in the presidency.

Posted by: malenkov | Sep 29 2023 15:43 utc | 39

1. Increasingly it seems that the only way to remove a senator from office is to let old age do its work.
2. The Hill reports $300 million in two places, $300 billion in one place. I hope the latter is a typo.
3.

Hillary still has her treasured dream of becoming US president. god save us all if that happens (doesn’t seem likely, she might get whacked by Michelle)
Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 29 2023 14:44 utc | 17

The world would be a so much better place if Killary were whacked by, say, an oncoming freight train or Libyan bayonet. And yes, it’s still “her turn dammit.” As for Michelle, the best and perhaps only compelling argument in favor of her candidacy is that she’s evinced no interest in the presidency.

Posted by: malenkov | Sep 29 2023 15:43 utc | 40

@ Bruised Northerner | Sep 29 2023 11:13 utc | 1 // Refinnejenna | Sep 29 2023 11:28 utc | 3 // Sam | Sep 29 2023 13:41 utc | 9
// suzan | Sep 29 2023 14:25 utc | 16
my take is it is a bit more like how suzan articulates @ 16… and the background from sam @ 9 is relevant too.. 5 eyes wants to push an agenda.. csis is a junior partner to cia and m16… the agenda is to isolate india and put it in the same camp as russia and china that you tar and feather regularly… this is the trick… trudeau is just a messenger for this agenda and is kept in the dark about most things.. he’d make a good mushroom, but unfortunately he is our prime minister, blissfully ignorant of so much… they are in a war with brics… any attempt at stirring dirt is a desired outcome here… canada as junior partner gets to play the ignoramus.. of course canada doesn’t need any help! they could do it on their own anyway!!
on a related note, here is the guy i am voting for in canada, next time around…
20 minute video of maxime bernier on Canada and the Russo-Ukraine War
video is from december 2022…

Posted by: james | Sep 29 2023 15:46 utc | 41

@ Bruised Northerner | Sep 29 2023 11:13 utc | 1 // Refinnejenna | Sep 29 2023 11:28 utc | 3 // Sam | Sep 29 2023 13:41 utc | 9
// suzan | Sep 29 2023 14:25 utc | 16
my take is it is a bit more like how suzan articulates @ 16… and the background from sam @ 9 is relevant too.. 5 eyes wants to push an agenda.. csis is a junior partner to cia and m16… the agenda is to isolate india and put it in the same camp as russia and china that you tar and feather regularly… this is the trick… trudeau is just a messenger for this agenda and is kept in the dark about most things.. he’d make a good mushroom, but unfortunately he is our prime minister, blissfully ignorant of so much… they are in a war with brics… any attempt at stirring dirt is a desired outcome here… canada as junior partner gets to play the ignoramus.. of course canada doesn’t need any help! they could do it on their own anyway!!
on a related note, here is the guy i am voting for in canada, next time around…
20 minute video of maxime bernier on Canada and the Russo-Ukraine War
video is from december 2022…

Posted by: james | Sep 29 2023 15:46 utc | 42

Alfred de Zayas shares edifying background on ethnic cleansing beseiging the 3,000 year-old Armenian settlement called Nagorno Karabakh…
https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/09/29/responsibility-to-protect-the-armenian-population-of-nagorno-karabakh/
…culminating in an astute comparison of international cases:

The international community cannot condone the aggression of Azerbaijan against the people of Nagorno Karabakh, because that would establish a precedent that territorial integrity could be established by State terror and force of arms against the will of the populations concerned. Imagine if Serbia were to attempt to reestablish its rule over Kosovo by invading and bombarding Kosovo. What would the world’s reaction be?
Of course, we are witnessing a similar outrage, when Ukraine tries to “recover” the Donbas or Crimea, although these territories are populated overwhelmingly by Russians, who not only speak Russian, but feel Russian and intend to preserve their identity and their traditions. It is preposterous to think that after waging war against the Russian population of Donbas since the Maidan coup d’état in 2014, there would be any possibility of incorporating these territories into Ukraine. Too much blood has been shed since 2014, and the principle of “remedial secession” would certainly apply… The Ukrainian government breached Article 20 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights when it persecuted the Russian-speaker in Ukraine. The Azeri government has also violated Article 20 ICCPR because of its incitement of hatred toward the Armenians — for decades.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Sep 29 2023 16:15 utc | 43

Alfred de Zayas shares edifying background on ethnic cleansing beseiging the 3,000 year-old Armenian settlement called Nagorno Karabakh…
https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/09/29/responsibility-to-protect-the-armenian-population-of-nagorno-karabakh/
…culminating in an astute comparison of international cases:

The international community cannot condone the aggression of Azerbaijan against the people of Nagorno Karabakh, because that would establish a precedent that territorial integrity could be established by State terror and force of arms against the will of the populations concerned. Imagine if Serbia were to attempt to reestablish its rule over Kosovo by invading and bombarding Kosovo. What would the world’s reaction be?
Of course, we are witnessing a similar outrage, when Ukraine tries to “recover” the Donbas or Crimea, although these territories are populated overwhelmingly by Russians, who not only speak Russian, but feel Russian and intend to preserve their identity and their traditions. It is preposterous to think that after waging war against the Russian population of Donbas since the Maidan coup d’état in 2014, there would be any possibility of incorporating these territories into Ukraine. Too much blood has been shed since 2014, and the principle of “remedial secession” would certainly apply… The Ukrainian government breached Article 20 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights when it persecuted the Russian-speaker in Ukraine. The Azeri government has also violated Article 20 ICCPR because of its incitement of hatred toward the Armenians — for decades.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Sep 29 2023 16:15 utc | 44

malenkov | Sep 29 2023 15:43 utc | 20

The world would be a so much better place if Killary were whacked by, say, an oncoming freight train or Libyan bayonet

With Hillary as president, we might be even worse off than we are with Biden. One could argue, though, that it is already as bad as its gets, since it is Victoria Nuland who really calls the shots. She is the only one in the administration who has the brains and the knowhow needed to conduct this war against Russia.
For those dreaming of freight trains and Libyan bajonets, they may want to reconsider their choice of target – will its elimination make a difference? Currently, Hillary is just a ghost – but Victoria is real. She’s the one who has the know-how, and without her, the rest will be a cluster of helpless amateurs.

Posted by: grunzt | Sep 29 2023 16:32 utc | 45

malenkov | Sep 29 2023 15:43 utc | 20

The world would be a so much better place if Killary were whacked by, say, an oncoming freight train or Libyan bayonet

With Hillary as president, we might be even worse off than we are with Biden. One could argue, though, that it is already as bad as its gets, since it is Victoria Nuland who really calls the shots. She is the only one in the administration who has the brains and the knowhow needed to conduct this war against Russia.
For those dreaming of freight trains and Libyan bajonets, they may want to reconsider their choice of target – will its elimination make a difference? Currently, Hillary is just a ghost – but Victoria is real. She’s the one who has the know-how, and without her, the rest will be a cluster of helpless amateurs.

Posted by: grunzt | Sep 29 2023 16:32 utc | 46

, “Hillary has ‘campaign’ hair.” God save us all.
Posted by: suzan | Sep 29 2023 14:25 utc | 16
Indeed and I’ve noticed the Queen has emerged from her sarcophagus lately.
…..
. he’d make a good mushroom,
Posted by: james | Sep 29 2023 15:46 utc | 21
The more fertilizer used, the more his head grows.. The heir apparent won’t be any better but at least Pierre (Skippy) doesn’t say err or ahh after every 3rd word.

Posted by: bubbles | Sep 29 2023 17:22 utc | 47

, “Hillary has ‘campaign’ hair.” God save us all.
Posted by: suzan | Sep 29 2023 14:25 utc | 16
Indeed and I’ve noticed the Queen has emerged from her sarcophagus lately.
…..
. he’d make a good mushroom,
Posted by: james | Sep 29 2023 15:46 utc | 21
The more fertilizer used, the more his head grows.. The heir apparent won’t be any better but at least Pierre (Skippy) doesn’t say err or ahh after every 3rd word.

Posted by: bubbles | Sep 29 2023 17:22 utc | 48

Took note this a.m. that The Friends of Simon Wiesenthal Centre aren’t going to let the ‘Parliamentarians’ off the hook easily for what they did, for embarrassing the entire country by giving a standing ovation to an ex member of Hitler’s SS.
“The University of Alberta is apologizing for having an endowment fund provided by Yaroslav Hunka, the Nazi veteran recognized in Parliament last week.”
“The Friends of Simon Wiesenthal Centre for Holocaust Studies (FSWCHS) says this isn’t the only endowment fund or tie the university has with people previously involved with Nazis.
“We’re glad that they’ve cancelled the endowment, but unfortunately, this is only one example of endowments at the Canadian Institute of Ukrainian Studies named after members of the Waffen-SS,” Dan Panneton said.”
“It’s good that they’ve taken this specific one down, but it’s only the tip of the iceberg.”
Panneton says former U of A chancellor Peter Savaryn was a member of the Waffen-SS.
Savaryn was U of A chancellor from 1982 to 1986 and helped found the Canadian Institute of Ukrainian Studies at the university.
He is also a member of the Order of Canada.”
https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/university-of-alberta-closes-endowment-fund-named-after-nazi-veteran-recognized-in-the-house-of-commons-1.6581413

Posted by: bubbles | Sep 29 2023 17:40 utc | 49

Took note this a.m. that The Friends of Simon Wiesenthal Centre aren’t going to let the ‘Parliamentarians’ off the hook easily for what they did, for embarrassing the entire country by giving a standing ovation to an ex member of Hitler’s SS.
“The University of Alberta is apologizing for having an endowment fund provided by Yaroslav Hunka, the Nazi veteran recognized in Parliament last week.”
“The Friends of Simon Wiesenthal Centre for Holocaust Studies (FSWCHS) says this isn’t the only endowment fund or tie the university has with people previously involved with Nazis.
“We’re glad that they’ve cancelled the endowment, but unfortunately, this is only one example of endowments at the Canadian Institute of Ukrainian Studies named after members of the Waffen-SS,” Dan Panneton said.”
“It’s good that they’ve taken this specific one down, but it’s only the tip of the iceberg.”
Panneton says former U of A chancellor Peter Savaryn was a member of the Waffen-SS.
Savaryn was U of A chancellor from 1982 to 1986 and helped found the Canadian Institute of Ukrainian Studies at the university.
He is also a member of the Order of Canada.”
https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/university-of-alberta-closes-endowment-fund-named-after-nazi-veteran-recognized-in-the-house-of-commons-1.6581413

Posted by: bubbles | Sep 29 2023 17:40 utc | 50

Dots of a colour….the drugs on the plane, whose were they. Top dog gang leader in Winnipeg gets tapped around the same time. Few days pass top leader in BC gets tapped, out side honour killing, this plays more like a gang turf war hidden behind politics, and diplomatic immunity.
Cheers M
The See Eye Eh and various security forces are well documented running drugs on government planes…..and Canada would be different…..rotf.

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Sep 29 2023 17:48 utc | 51

Dots of a colour….the drugs on the plane, whose were they. Top dog gang leader in Winnipeg gets tapped around the same time. Few days pass top leader in BC gets tapped, out side honour killing, this plays more like a gang turf war hidden behind politics, and diplomatic immunity.
Cheers M
The See Eye Eh and various security forces are well documented running drugs on government planes…..and Canada would be different…..rotf.

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Sep 29 2023 17:48 utc | 52

Roger Boyd on ethnic tensions in Canada…
https://rogerboyd.substack.com/p/straws-in-the-wind-september-edition
The road to Babi Yar, the site of a massacre of Ukrainian Jews was even named after Bandera, and Ukrainian soldiers and citizens openly display Nazi symbols and talk about the ethnic cleansing of Eastern Ukraine. The Canadian government, and all of the Canadian political parties, are all in with their support for this fascist regime claiming they are fighting for “freedom” and “democracy”; Big Brother would have been proud of the rendering of such terms meaningless.
With respect to the Khalistan separatist movement, the Canadian government has deeply harmed its relationship with India by publicly claiming that Indian state forces murdered a Sikh Canadian in Canada, while housing wanted Khalistan separatists within Canada.
This is a very dangerous game even with respect to domestic politics as the Indian Hindu population is growing rapidly in Canada; recently surpassing that of the Sikh community. With the current very high levels of Canadian immigration (500,000+ per year) and the fact that India is the largest source of such immigrants (27% in 2022) the balance may rapidly shift in favour of Hindu Indians in future years. The Khalistan separatist movement may then become an important and divisive element in Canadian domestic politics. With respect to Canada’s international position, it is noticeable how much Canada’s allies are standing aside from this dispute.
The Indian Development Crisis
Earlier this year, the journal India Forum published an article that detailed the falling investment rate in manufacturing in the country and the stagnant share of manufacturing in the Indian economy for the past three decades (from 1991 when the Indian economy was liberalized, the end of the License Raj). From having a greater level of industrialization than other countries at the same GDP level in 1981, India is now an outlier to the downside within its GDP grouping. India has had growth without development, as the take-off of industrialization never happened; in great contrast to a China which became the workshop of the world with over double the share of manufacturing in its GDP. India’s neighbours of Malaysia, Thailand, Indonesia and Vietnam are all ahead of it now in the race to industrialize.
In the second decade of the new century, India’s GDP growth rate decelerated toward 5% per annum, a rate far too low for a country as poor as India (US$2,389 at market exchange rates, US$8,379 at PPP). It has fallen far behind China (US$12,720 and US$21,476), Russia (US$15,345 and US$36,485), Malaysia (US$11,972 and US$33,434), Thailand (US$6,909 and US$20,672), Indonesia (US$4,788 and US$14,653) and Vietnam (US$4,164 and US$13,457). It is only marginally ahead of Bangladesh (US$2,688 and US$7,395) which has a booming textile industry to offset its shortage in arable land, and Pakistan (US$1,597 and US$6,437) which is beset with many problems.
Without the mass employment provided by manufacturing, which cannot be offset by the service export sector (e.g. IT and call centers), any increases in the efficiency of agriculture can only result in vast numbers of workless poor adding to city populations. “Cities of Slums” surrounding a small modern core as seen so much in Africa, rather than the increasingly wealthy cities that can now be seen across South East Asia. At the same time, the oligarchical, neoliberal, and extractive nature of the country’s ruling class does not provide the kind of development state that other nations have required for their successful development. In effect, India may be a giant in population but a giant with extremely limited manufacturing muscularity; a nation where growth does not equal development. To make matters worse, even the agricultural sector is struggling.
This lack of development creates a great chasm between the geopolitical visions of the Indian ruling class and the actual economic heft of the nation. The lack of manufacturing capability has also created a structural and growing dependence upon China, which is directly at odds with India’s foreign policy of independence; especially from what it sees as its main regional rival. The reality is that India has already lost the regional battle, but its ruling class cannot stomach the acceptance of such a reality. Instead of working with China to help develop India (as China did with US and other foreign corporations utilizing Exclusive Economic Zones), it clumsily balances between China, Russia and the US.
The threat to the world view of the Indian elite, an ontological challenge, is fundamental; making it very difficult for that elite to accept the reality. The ongoing role of India (and Bangladesh and Pakistan) as an island of the poor in a sea of increasing prosperity can only create severe tensions both within that island (exacerbated by the religious divide) and between it and its neighbouring countries. With Iran (US$15,300 and US$18,000) seeming to be in the process of re-entering world trade, allied with both Russia and China, it may also become another nation accelerating away from India. The come down for the Indian elites will be a severe one as they have to accept that they are not the great regional player that they think they are. During this process of the realignment of their world view with reality, India may prove to be somewhat prickly and problematic for its neighbours.

Will BRICS save India??
I don’t think so…. my experience in India showed me that it inherited all the bureaucratic hurdles imposed by the British Raj, learning nothing from the contrary experience of it’s neighbors….
To compound matters…. Traditional inheritance customs divide farm holdings among the siblings each generation to the point many Indian farms are < 1 hectare... INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 29 2023 18:00 utc | 53

Roger Boyd on ethnic tensions in Canada…
https://rogerboyd.substack.com/p/straws-in-the-wind-september-edition
The road to Babi Yar, the site of a massacre of Ukrainian Jews was even named after Bandera, and Ukrainian soldiers and citizens openly display Nazi symbols and talk about the ethnic cleansing of Eastern Ukraine. The Canadian government, and all of the Canadian political parties, are all in with their support for this fascist regime claiming they are fighting for “freedom” and “democracy”; Big Brother would have been proud of the rendering of such terms meaningless.
With respect to the Khalistan separatist movement, the Canadian government has deeply harmed its relationship with India by publicly claiming that Indian state forces murdered a Sikh Canadian in Canada, while housing wanted Khalistan separatists within Canada.
This is a very dangerous game even with respect to domestic politics as the Indian Hindu population is growing rapidly in Canada; recently surpassing that of the Sikh community. With the current very high levels of Canadian immigration (500,000+ per year) and the fact that India is the largest source of such immigrants (27% in 2022) the balance may rapidly shift in favour of Hindu Indians in future years. The Khalistan separatist movement may then become an important and divisive element in Canadian domestic politics. With respect to Canada’s international position, it is noticeable how much Canada’s allies are standing aside from this dispute.
The Indian Development Crisis
Earlier this year, the journal India Forum published an article that detailed the falling investment rate in manufacturing in the country and the stagnant share of manufacturing in the Indian economy for the past three decades (from 1991 when the Indian economy was liberalized, the end of the License Raj). From having a greater level of industrialization than other countries at the same GDP level in 1981, India is now an outlier to the downside within its GDP grouping. India has had growth without development, as the take-off of industrialization never happened; in great contrast to a China which became the workshop of the world with over double the share of manufacturing in its GDP. India’s neighbours of Malaysia, Thailand, Indonesia and Vietnam are all ahead of it now in the race to industrialize.
In the second decade of the new century, India’s GDP growth rate decelerated toward 5% per annum, a rate far too low for a country as poor as India (US$2,389 at market exchange rates, US$8,379 at PPP). It has fallen far behind China (US$12,720 and US$21,476), Russia (US$15,345 and US$36,485), Malaysia (US$11,972 and US$33,434), Thailand (US$6,909 and US$20,672), Indonesia (US$4,788 and US$14,653) and Vietnam (US$4,164 and US$13,457). It is only marginally ahead of Bangladesh (US$2,688 and US$7,395) which has a booming textile industry to offset its shortage in arable land, and Pakistan (US$1,597 and US$6,437) which is beset with many problems.
Without the mass employment provided by manufacturing, which cannot be offset by the service export sector (e.g. IT and call centers), any increases in the efficiency of agriculture can only result in vast numbers of workless poor adding to city populations. “Cities of Slums” surrounding a small modern core as seen so much in Africa, rather than the increasingly wealthy cities that can now be seen across South East Asia. At the same time, the oligarchical, neoliberal, and extractive nature of the country’s ruling class does not provide the kind of development state that other nations have required for their successful development. In effect, India may be a giant in population but a giant with extremely limited manufacturing muscularity; a nation where growth does not equal development. To make matters worse, even the agricultural sector is struggling.
This lack of development creates a great chasm between the geopolitical visions of the Indian ruling class and the actual economic heft of the nation. The lack of manufacturing capability has also created a structural and growing dependence upon China, which is directly at odds with India’s foreign policy of independence; especially from what it sees as its main regional rival. The reality is that India has already lost the regional battle, but its ruling class cannot stomach the acceptance of such a reality. Instead of working with China to help develop India (as China did with US and other foreign corporations utilizing Exclusive Economic Zones), it clumsily balances between China, Russia and the US.
The threat to the world view of the Indian elite, an ontological challenge, is fundamental; making it very difficult for that elite to accept the reality. The ongoing role of India (and Bangladesh and Pakistan) as an island of the poor in a sea of increasing prosperity can only create severe tensions both within that island (exacerbated by the religious divide) and between it and its neighbouring countries. With Iran (US$15,300 and US$18,000) seeming to be in the process of re-entering world trade, allied with both Russia and China, it may also become another nation accelerating away from India. The come down for the Indian elites will be a severe one as they have to accept that they are not the great regional player that they think they are. During this process of the realignment of their world view with reality, India may prove to be somewhat prickly and problematic for its neighbours.

Will BRICS save India??
I don’t think so…. my experience in India showed me that it inherited all the bureaucratic hurdles imposed by the British Raj, learning nothing from the contrary experience of it’s neighbors….
To compound matters…. Traditional inheritance customs divide farm holdings among the siblings each generation to the point many Indian farms are < 1 hectare... INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 29 2023 18:00 utc | 54

Another fantastic day for the EU, after the condemnation of Erdo’s main contender Osman Kavala to life in prison, the pure and simple annihilation of Nagorno-Karabakh (with a date, October 1st), the failure of the grain deals and finally, Ukr bullying and misbehaving as one would expect given their record. Politico, which belongs to the group The Economist, seems jubilatory. I am too, frankly.
https://www.politico.eu/article/france-america-charles-michel-armenia-azerbaijan-nagorno-karabakh-refugees/
https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-wont-accept-second-class-eu-membership-pm-denys-shmyhal/
https://www.politico.eu/article/incomprehensible-eu-lost-control-ukraine-grain-fight/

Posted by: Minaa | Sep 29 2023 18:11 utc | 55

Another fantastic day for the EU, after the condemnation of Erdo’s main contender Osman Kavala to life in prison, the pure and simple annihilation of Nagorno-Karabakh (with a date, October 1st), the failure of the grain deals and finally, Ukr bullying and misbehaving as one would expect given their record. Politico, which belongs to the group The Economist, seems jubilatory. I am too, frankly.
https://www.politico.eu/article/france-america-charles-michel-armenia-azerbaijan-nagorno-karabakh-refugees/
https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-wont-accept-second-class-eu-membership-pm-denys-shmyhal/
https://www.politico.eu/article/incomprehensible-eu-lost-control-ukraine-grain-fight/

Posted by: Minaa | Sep 29 2023 18:11 utc | 56

Roger Boyd continues his analysis of sick man India…
https://rogerboyd.substack.com/p/why-india-will-not-repeat-chinas?utm_source=%2Fsearch%2Findia&utm_medium=reader2
A quite colourful account of the growth of India’s Billionaire Raj during the 2010s is contained in James Crabtree’s book of that title. With the BJP looking like the probable winner of the 2024 Indian general elections, India will spend this decade experiencing growth without much development, widening economic inequities, and a further centralization of power by a BJP with a significant religious-supremacist wing. Not a recipe for a repeat of China’s success.
Vietnam now out produces India manufacture wise…
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 29 2023 18:22 utc | 57

Roger Boyd continues his analysis of sick man India…
https://rogerboyd.substack.com/p/why-india-will-not-repeat-chinas?utm_source=%2Fsearch%2Findia&utm_medium=reader2
A quite colourful account of the growth of India’s Billionaire Raj during the 2010s is contained in James Crabtree’s book of that title. With the BJP looking like the probable winner of the 2024 Indian general elections, India will spend this decade experiencing growth without much development, widening economic inequities, and a further centralization of power by a BJP with a significant religious-supremacist wing. Not a recipe for a repeat of China’s success.
Vietnam now out produces India manufacture wise…
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 29 2023 18:22 utc | 58

ZH has a posting up with the title
“Here’s What’s Really Going On”: Elon Musk Livestreams Southern Border Chaos
The quote

On Thursday, Elon Musk asked on X: “Why do so many American politicians from both parties care 100 times more about the Ukraine border than the USA border?”
…..
In a search for truth, the world’s richest man encouraged millions of his followers to become citizen journalists to uncover and share the truth about what’s happening not just at the border but across the nation while corporate media and political elites in Washington, DC, ‘distract, pretend, and divide’ Americans.

The second statement, while self serving, is also a call out of the MSM myth machine which may prove interesting….how many will take Musk up on his citizen journalist challenge?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 29 2023 18:38 utc | 59

ZH has a posting up with the title
“Here’s What’s Really Going On”: Elon Musk Livestreams Southern Border Chaos
The quote

On Thursday, Elon Musk asked on X: “Why do so many American politicians from both parties care 100 times more about the Ukraine border than the USA border?”
…..
In a search for truth, the world’s richest man encouraged millions of his followers to become citizen journalists to uncover and share the truth about what’s happening not just at the border but across the nation while corporate media and political elites in Washington, DC, ‘distract, pretend, and divide’ Americans.

The second statement, while self serving, is also a call out of the MSM myth machine which may prove interesting….how many will take Musk up on his citizen journalist challenge?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 29 2023 18:38 utc | 60

*sigh*
Canada, you need to get your shit together. We can’t have all three of North America’s largest countries by area all burst into flames at the same time. You have responsibilities to be calm, cool, & collected as we in USA & Mexico be all dramatic & extra continuously. At the very least close your eyes and think of NAFTA, dammit!
We’re counting on you to be the stable one here! Keep this up and we might have to look at the second string line-up further south. Belize, suit up; it might be all up to you if things get worse…

Posted by: titmouse | Sep 29 2023 18:48 utc | 61

*sigh*
Canada, you need to get your shit together. We can’t have all three of North America’s largest countries by area all burst into flames at the same time. You have responsibilities to be calm, cool, & collected as we in USA & Mexico be all dramatic & extra continuously. At the very least close your eyes and think of NAFTA, dammit!
We’re counting on you to be the stable one here! Keep this up and we might have to look at the second string line-up further south. Belize, suit up; it might be all up to you if things get worse…

Posted by: titmouse | Sep 29 2023 18:48 utc | 62

@23She is the only one in the administration who has the brains and the knowhow needed to conduct this war against Russia.
T hi e only one eh? No wonder Russia is doing so well.

Posted by: Fred777 | Sep 29 2023 20:00 utc | 63

@23She is the only one in the administration who has the brains and the knowhow needed to conduct this war against Russia.
T hi e only one eh? No wonder Russia is doing so well.

Posted by: Fred777 | Sep 29 2023 20:00 utc | 64

bevin @ 18
Nope, not so simple. Had she resigned a month ago Newsom would have appointed a replacement. Too close to election day now. Special election and special primary required. Though I can imagine there is a decision to play fast and loose and get a body in the chair.

Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 29 2023 20:53 utc | 65

bevin @ 18
Nope, not so simple. Had she resigned a month ago Newsom would have appointed a replacement. Too close to election day now. Special election and special primary required. Though I can imagine there is a decision to play fast and loose and get a body in the chair.

Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 29 2023 20:53 utc | 66

Plagued by sexual assaults US Mcmurdo station halts alcohol sales in bars. They have bars in Antarctica? What about strip clubs and gambling? What are they really doing there?

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Sep 29 2023 20:54 utc | 67

Plagued by sexual assaults US Mcmurdo station halts alcohol sales in bars. They have bars in Antarctica? What about strip clubs and gambling? What are they really doing there?

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Sep 29 2023 20:54 utc | 68

I took the time to report to NAZI cel working out of Ottawa to the Canadian Security Intelligence Syndicate (CSIS) online form for reporting national security threats. Here is an excerpt of my formal complaint:
>I would like to report a NAZI cell working in Ottawa. A person who has brought her familial hatred of Russia to Canada and is leveraging our parliament as a platform to fulfill her familial goal in the Ukraine as pro-NAZI. Her family history speaks for itself, her actions make it clear. She has co-oped an entire political party including the leadership with hatred of Russia. Recently upon invitation a old war criminal was celebrated in our parliament, the bastard is an ugly NAZI. The smuggling in of pro-nazi and pro fascist support into our parliament constitutes a grave danger to our democracy. The person of concern is Chrystia Freeland. She should be investigated for treason because of her NAZI sympathies.

It is now obvious to the world that NAZI politic has won the war of the hearts and minds of the Canadian parliamentarians. Canada has been defeated by NAZI politic in 2023. This reveal of pro-NAZI sentiment in Canada is also reflected throughout NATO. The clamp down has just begun with the attempted erasure of the glorification of a NAZI by the Canadian parliament is a warning to the world. Canada is a lost cause and will never recover.

Posted by: Bill Miner | Sep 29 2023 21:22 utc | 69

I took the time to report to NAZI cel working out of Ottawa to the Canadian Security Intelligence Syndicate (CSIS) online form for reporting national security threats. Here is an excerpt of my formal complaint:
>I would like to report a NAZI cell working in Ottawa. A person who has brought her familial hatred of Russia to Canada and is leveraging our parliament as a platform to fulfill her familial goal in the Ukraine as pro-NAZI. Her family history speaks for itself, her actions make it clear. She has co-oped an entire political party including the leadership with hatred of Russia. Recently upon invitation a old war criminal was celebrated in our parliament, the bastard is an ugly NAZI. The smuggling in of pro-nazi and pro fascist support into our parliament constitutes a grave danger to our democracy. The person of concern is Chrystia Freeland. She should be investigated for treason because of her NAZI sympathies.

It is now obvious to the world that NAZI politic has won the war of the hearts and minds of the Canadian parliamentarians. Canada has been defeated by NAZI politic in 2023. This reveal of pro-NAZI sentiment in Canada is also reflected throughout NATO. The clamp down has just begun with the attempted erasure of the glorification of a NAZI by the Canadian parliament is a warning to the world. Canada is a lost cause and will never recover.

Posted by: Bill Miner | Sep 29 2023 21:22 utc | 70

Bruised Northerner @ 7:
As Doctor Eleven says @ 6, Ottawa needs to produce actual evidence that Ninjas was killed by Indian agents in Canada. Simply saying that the information was provided by a Five Eyes ally, especially if the official providing it does so on conditions of anonymity, is not good enough.
In light of India’s recent moves to ingratiate itself further with other BRICS nations, one might suspect that the most likely killers of Nijjar are from a Five Eyes ally and the killing serves as a warning to the Modi government that the Indian diaspora in Canada and other countries (like Britain and Australia) can be turned against it.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Sep 29 2023 21:24 utc | 71

Bruised Northerner @ 7:
As Doctor Eleven says @ 6, Ottawa needs to produce actual evidence that Ninjas was killed by Indian agents in Canada. Simply saying that the information was provided by a Five Eyes ally, especially if the official providing it does so on conditions of anonymity, is not good enough.
In light of India’s recent moves to ingratiate itself further with other BRICS nations, one might suspect that the most likely killers of Nijjar are from a Five Eyes ally and the killing serves as a warning to the Modi government that the Indian diaspora in Canada and other countries (like Britain and Australia) can be turned against it.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Sep 29 2023 21:24 utc | 72

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Sep 29 2023 20:54 utc | 34
they are fighting the penguins over there so we don’t have to fight them over here.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 29 2023 21:30 utc | 73

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Sep 29 2023 20:54 utc | 34
they are fighting the penguins over there so we don’t have to fight them over here.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 29 2023 21:30 utc | 74

Dr George W Oprisko 29
India lacks two vital necessities for life , H2O and Honesty. This in a country that has plenty of rain , and brains, but the people with political power are not the ones who bother sbout practical problems. They like lying almost as much as they like chilli and life seems boring to them without a little constant lying to create a frissance of intrigue and politics.
Nothing remotely like Vietnam .

Posted by: Giyane | Sep 29 2023 21:32 utc | 75

Dr George W Oprisko 29
India lacks two vital necessities for life , H2O and Honesty. This in a country that has plenty of rain , and brains, but the people with political power are not the ones who bother sbout practical problems. They like lying almost as much as they like chilli and life seems boring to them without a little constant lying to create a frissance of intrigue and politics.
Nothing remotely like Vietnam .

Posted by: Giyane | Sep 29 2023 21:32 utc | 76

@36 The question is of, who informs the PM and advises him on international relations and security? Who advised the PM to act upon hear say? Those two questions need to be answered. It suggests Trudeau is not running the country. Only an idiot would attempt destroy a once great relationship with India based on nothing hear say evidence. The PM or any national leader should on act after formal charges and let the justice system work itself out. Canada is a captured state. In Canada evidence is a thing of the past.

Posted by: Bill Miner | Sep 29 2023 21:40 utc | 77

@36 The question is of, who informs the PM and advises him on international relations and security? Who advised the PM to act upon hear say? Those two questions need to be answered. It suggests Trudeau is not running the country. Only an idiot would attempt destroy a once great relationship with India based on nothing hear say evidence. The PM or any national leader should on act after formal charges and let the justice system work itself out. Canada is a captured state. In Canada evidence is a thing of the past.

Posted by: Bill Miner | Sep 29 2023 21:40 utc | 78

In light of India’s recent moves to ingratiate itself further with other BRICS nations, one might suspect that the most likely killers of Nijjar are from a Five Eyes ally and the killing serves as a warning to the Modi government that the Indian diaspora in Canada and other countries (like Britain and Australia) can be turned against it.
Posted by: Refinnejenna | Sep 29 2023 21:24 utc | 36
There are other potential suspects as in organized criminal syndicates, which is a problem in places like Surrey BC and surrounds, and maybe relatives of the victims of the Air India bombing. Vengeance shall be mine..and all that.
“Who was behind the attack?
Canadian investigators have alleged that the bombings were planned by Sikh separatists who wanted to take revenge for the Indian army’s deadly 1984 storming of the Golden Temple in Punjab state.”
https://www.aol.com/air-india-flight-182-india-002309887.html
Have you ever checked out the RCMP’s most wanted list? It randomly popped up one day when I doing an internet search for something entirely unrelated, but I had a look see anyway.
There’s many on it who could pass as home boys gone bad but most, as country folk might say, ‘ain’t from ’round here..’ No way of telling for sure how they gain access to Canada but one should remember we have very long coastlines and an undefended border with the US.

Posted by: bubbles | Sep 29 2023 21:52 utc | 79

In light of India’s recent moves to ingratiate itself further with other BRICS nations, one might suspect that the most likely killers of Nijjar are from a Five Eyes ally and the killing serves as a warning to the Modi government that the Indian diaspora in Canada and other countries (like Britain and Australia) can be turned against it.
Posted by: Refinnejenna | Sep 29 2023 21:24 utc | 36
There are other potential suspects as in organized criminal syndicates, which is a problem in places like Surrey BC and surrounds, and maybe relatives of the victims of the Air India bombing. Vengeance shall be mine..and all that.
“Who was behind the attack?
Canadian investigators have alleged that the bombings were planned by Sikh separatists who wanted to take revenge for the Indian army’s deadly 1984 storming of the Golden Temple in Punjab state.”
https://www.aol.com/air-india-flight-182-india-002309887.html
Have you ever checked out the RCMP’s most wanted list? It randomly popped up one day when I doing an internet search for something entirely unrelated, but I had a look see anyway.
There’s many on it who could pass as home boys gone bad but most, as country folk might say, ‘ain’t from ’round here..’ No way of telling for sure how they gain access to Canada but one should remember we have very long coastlines and an undefended border with the US.

Posted by: bubbles | Sep 29 2023 21:52 utc | 80

So…UK Braverman raises the issue of UN 1951 definition of what is a refugee.and immigration intergration that does not suitably happen for UK society thinks it should be. Germany the other day raised its concerns about immigration”fairness” of distribution .. today Sweden realises that the warnings of immigrant communities not intergrating now requires military control in areas …….hmmm….told you so?

Posted by: Jo | Sep 29 2023 21:52 utc | 81

So…UK Braverman raises the issue of UN 1951 definition of what is a refugee.and immigration intergration that does not suitably happen for UK society thinks it should be. Germany the other day raised its concerns about immigration”fairness” of distribution .. today Sweden realises that the warnings of immigrant communities not intergrating now requires military control in areas …….hmmm….told you so?

Posted by: Jo | Sep 29 2023 21:52 utc | 82

It suggests Trudeau is not running the country.
Posted by: Bill Miner | Sep 29 2023 21:40 utc | 39
###########
Gee, you think?
These incompetent “leaders” may be avatars to distract the population as they perform their roles like brain-damaged donkeys …
Or is that too “on the nose”?
What next? The elections are fake? 😂😂😂
I will never get tired of the innocence and naivety of people who follow current political events closely. It’s a blindspot that I find endlessly fascinating …

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 29 2023 21:55 utc | 83

It suggests Trudeau is not running the country.
Posted by: Bill Miner | Sep 29 2023 21:40 utc | 39
###########
Gee, you think?
These incompetent “leaders” may be avatars to distract the population as they perform their roles like brain-damaged donkeys …
Or is that too “on the nose”?
What next? The elections are fake? 😂😂😂
I will never get tired of the innocence and naivety of people who follow current political events closely. It’s a blindspot that I find endlessly fascinating …

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 29 2023 21:55 utc | 84

Bill Miner 35
I reported my local imam to Prevent, anti-terrorism drot. for reciting Qur’an verses in support of islamic State’s massacres in Sri Lanka.
Doh. Prevent is the terrorist recruitment office for British Intelligence.
Why did you tell the SBU you don’t agree with Nazism? I should have taken commission for finding them a useful idiot to create future patsies.
It was at times like this that so many left wing Jews left Austria and Germany, sensing the wind of change .
Right wing politics is being fuelled up from sides . If I were you, I would leave Canada. All of the right wing of politics is building up, Nazism, Islamism, Nationalism , because of the Neo-cons. But where to go to?

Posted by: Giyane | Sep 29 2023 22:01 utc | 85

Bill Miner 35
I reported my local imam to Prevent, anti-terrorism drot. for reciting Qur’an verses in support of islamic State’s massacres in Sri Lanka.
Doh. Prevent is the terrorist recruitment office for British Intelligence.
Why did you tell the SBU you don’t agree with Nazism? I should have taken commission for finding them a useful idiot to create future patsies.
It was at times like this that so many left wing Jews left Austria and Germany, sensing the wind of change .
Right wing politics is being fuelled up from sides . If I were you, I would leave Canada. All of the right wing of politics is building up, Nazism, Islamism, Nationalism , because of the Neo-cons. But where to go to?

Posted by: Giyane | Sep 29 2023 22:01 utc | 86

The question is of, who informs the PM and advises him on international relations and security? Who advised the PM to act upon hear say? Those two questions need to be answered. It suggests Trudeau is not running the country.
Posted by: Bill Miner | Sep 29 2023 21:40 utc | 39
When trudeau made his grand statement accusing India he did say he had consulted with the US and the UK beforehand.
As Chester was to Spike in the Looney Tunes cartoons.. Oh and you knew he was a jr. high school drama teacher before being drafted by Liberal movers and shakers based on his Pa’s enduring popularity? Except the Prairie Provinces of course. They weren’t so enamored with his Pa.

Posted by: bubbles | Sep 29 2023 22:19 utc | 87

The question is of, who informs the PM and advises him on international relations and security? Who advised the PM to act upon hear say? Those two questions need to be answered. It suggests Trudeau is not running the country.
Posted by: Bill Miner | Sep 29 2023 21:40 utc | 39
When trudeau made his grand statement accusing India he did say he had consulted with the US and the UK beforehand.
As Chester was to Spike in the Looney Tunes cartoons.. Oh and you knew he was a jr. high school drama teacher before being drafted by Liberal movers and shakers based on his Pa’s enduring popularity? Except the Prairie Provinces of course. They weren’t so enamored with his Pa.

Posted by: bubbles | Sep 29 2023 22:19 utc | 88

FYI
Veterans for Peace
Keynote Event with Clare Daly (IRISH MEP) and Jeffrey Sachs, B.A., M.A., Ph.D.
[2hrs 30 mins]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LdERmcB1qk

Posted by: Don Firineach | Sep 29 2023 22:28 utc | 89

FYI
Veterans for Peace
Keynote Event with Clare Daly (IRISH MEP) and Jeffrey Sachs, B.A., M.A., Ph.D.
[2hrs 30 mins]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LdERmcB1qk

Posted by: Don Firineach | Sep 29 2023 22:28 utc | 90

@ bubbles | Sep 29 2023 22:19 utc | 44
consulting with the us-uk, is just simple code for – i got it from csis – gospel truth, lol… csis – junior partner to cia-mi6… that is the reality… csis takes bullshit and immediately feed the canadian politicians the bullshit.. that is how information works in canada… if you aren’t in the 5 eyes loop, you are out of the loop!
if you want to be a good western politician, beholden to corporations, you make sure to follow everything the intel agencies tell you..

Posted by: james | Sep 29 2023 22:42 utc | 91

@ bubbles | Sep 29 2023 22:19 utc | 44
consulting with the us-uk, is just simple code for – i got it from csis – gospel truth, lol… csis – junior partner to cia-mi6… that is the reality… csis takes bullshit and immediately feed the canadian politicians the bullshit.. that is how information works in canada… if you aren’t in the 5 eyes loop, you are out of the loop!
if you want to be a good western politician, beholden to corporations, you make sure to follow everything the intel agencies tell you..

Posted by: james | Sep 29 2023 22:42 utc | 92

The trudeau, India thing.
When was it Sept. 8? trudeau’s in India for the G20 meeting. Rumour has it they found a stash of coke aboard his plane when “parked” in India. Comes back to Canada, then we hear about the Sikh thing…
My 2 cents…. Without his ex, the man is just “partying” to much and threw a tantrum when they “took” his 8-ball away.

Posted by: heavymetal101 | Sep 29 2023 23:01 utc | 93

The trudeau, India thing.
When was it Sept. 8? trudeau’s in India for the G20 meeting. Rumour has it they found a stash of coke aboard his plane when “parked” in India. Comes back to Canada, then we hear about the Sikh thing…
My 2 cents…. Without his ex, the man is just “partying” to much and threw a tantrum when they “took” his 8-ball away.

Posted by: heavymetal101 | Sep 29 2023 23:01 utc | 94

Something outside the usual here> ‘A Nobel prize-winning immigrant’s view on American inequality’
“The paper, which he co-authored with his wife, Anne Case, another distinguished economist at Princeton, was titled “Rising morbidity and mortality in midlife among white non-Hispanic Americans in the 21st century.”
Take a moment to understand what that may be about, because it’s different than what you will normally read..
“Case and Deaton documented an astonishing fact: unlike virtually every other demographic group in America (and other rich countries),
the death rate of white, middle-aged Americans was rising instead of falling.
And that this macabre trend was being driven largely by a rise in what they would call “deaths of despair” — from suicides, drug overdoses, and alcohol abuse — especially in the population without a college degree.”
” After Donald Trump won the presidential election, many commentators cited the paper as evidence that despair in white, working-class communities was a crucial reason why those voters helped put the firebrand president into office.”
https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2023/09/26/1199422599/a-nobel-prize-winning-immigrants-view-on-american-inequality
After the fact commentators I might add. Of course hindsight is always 20/20 but where were these sage commentators when the likes of Mitt Romney and Bain Capital couldn’t sell out Delco Remy to the land of China as fast as fast could be… for a personal profit of course.
Now same are whining, mewling and finger pointing at China as the reason for America’s dilemma. I saw an article recently about Romney yapping about China, national security etc recently, I had to turn away, the hypocrisy was too much to take.

Posted by: bubbles | Sep 29 2023 23:41 utc | 95

Something outside the usual here> ‘A Nobel prize-winning immigrant’s view on American inequality’
“The paper, which he co-authored with his wife, Anne Case, another distinguished economist at Princeton, was titled “Rising morbidity and mortality in midlife among white non-Hispanic Americans in the 21st century.”
Take a moment to understand what that may be about, because it’s different than what you will normally read..
“Case and Deaton documented an astonishing fact: unlike virtually every other demographic group in America (and other rich countries),
the death rate of white, middle-aged Americans was rising instead of falling.
And that this macabre trend was being driven largely by a rise in what they would call “deaths of despair” — from suicides, drug overdoses, and alcohol abuse — especially in the population without a college degree.”
” After Donald Trump won the presidential election, many commentators cited the paper as evidence that despair in white, working-class communities was a crucial reason why those voters helped put the firebrand president into office.”
https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2023/09/26/1199422599/a-nobel-prize-winning-immigrants-view-on-american-inequality
After the fact commentators I might add. Of course hindsight is always 20/20 but where were these sage commentators when the likes of Mitt Romney and Bain Capital couldn’t sell out Delco Remy to the land of China as fast as fast could be… for a personal profit of course.
Now same are whining, mewling and finger pointing at China as the reason for America’s dilemma. I saw an article recently about Romney yapping about China, national security etc recently, I had to turn away, the hypocrisy was too much to take.

Posted by: bubbles | Sep 29 2023 23:41 utc | 96

Posted by: titmouse | Sep 29 2023 18:48 utc | 31
*sigh*
“Canada, you need to get your shit together.”
+++
You make make it sound like “All Canadians” are supporting the federal government…**Newsflash** come out to rural Alberta, I’ll show you what we think of the feds.
The rot is so deep. Way past fixing. It’s best to burn.. Burn it to a crisp… maybe the ones who are left running this circus will get the message. (I doubt it.) Look at the Nazi thing last week, “parliament ignorance” at its best. “Trained seals” clapping when told.
Call a spade a spade..All these “western governments” right down to our municipal governments. No more than organized crime rings.

Posted by: heavymetal101 | Sep 29 2023 23:48 utc | 97

Posted by: titmouse | Sep 29 2023 18:48 utc | 31
*sigh*
“Canada, you need to get your shit together.”
+++
You make make it sound like “All Canadians” are supporting the federal government…**Newsflash** come out to rural Alberta, I’ll show you what we think of the feds.
The rot is so deep. Way past fixing. It’s best to burn.. Burn it to a crisp… maybe the ones who are left running this circus will get the message. (I doubt it.) Look at the Nazi thing last week, “parliament ignorance” at its best. “Trained seals” clapping when told.
Call a spade a spade..All these “western governments” right down to our municipal governments. No more than organized crime rings.

Posted by: heavymetal101 | Sep 29 2023 23:48 utc | 98

https://nitter.net/RnaudBertrand
Arnaud Bertrand
@RnaudBertrand
18h
Projection level: max!
Someone should do a summary at some point of the *thousands* of information warfare operations the US (or the West in general) has launched against China these past few years, from the Xinjiang accusations to the “debt trap” narrative or all the “social credit score” stuff, officially assigning billions of dollars to it all.
And Western media: “look, China is launching an information war!” 🤦‍♂️ The level of disinformation and double standards is beyond insane.
Truth is: almost no-one in the West is even exposed to Chinese talking points, the immense majority of the population only ever hears one side of the narrative, that propagated by Western media, so-called “China watchers”, Washington-based “NGOs” and think tanks funded in large parts by the military industrial complex.
The media and information ecosystem people evolve in is squarely in one camp, propagating a single narrative. When you hear debates on China on TV one side of the argument is “China is bad” and the other side is “no I disagree, China is very bad”. It’s not even remotely close to being fair.
Which is frankly extremely dangerous: it leads people to dramatically – and I stress this: DRAMATICALLY! – misunderstand even the most basic facts about China. Which is bad because in a world where China gains in importance it leads people to fundamentally misunderstand the world they live in, and take bad decisions in consequence. It also of course leads people to vote for the most hawkish voices on China, and the most hostile propositions against China. Which makes the world far more conflictual than it needs to be and is often against their own interests.
So dear FT: instead of making yourself the spokesperson of another delusional American government psyop, why don’t you start asking yourself real questions such as “are we shooting ourselves and the whole of humanity in the foot by continuing with the China bad narrative”?

Posted by: MD | Sep 29 2023 23:49 utc | 99

https://nitter.net/RnaudBertrand
Arnaud Bertrand
@RnaudBertrand
18h
Projection level: max!
Someone should do a summary at some point of the *thousands* of information warfare operations the US (or the West in general) has launched against China these past few years, from the Xinjiang accusations to the “debt trap” narrative or all the “social credit score” stuff, officially assigning billions of dollars to it all.
And Western media: “look, China is launching an information war!” 🤦‍♂️ The level of disinformation and double standards is beyond insane.
Truth is: almost no-one in the West is even exposed to Chinese talking points, the immense majority of the population only ever hears one side of the narrative, that propagated by Western media, so-called “China watchers”, Washington-based “NGOs” and think tanks funded in large parts by the military industrial complex.
The media and information ecosystem people evolve in is squarely in one camp, propagating a single narrative. When you hear debates on China on TV one side of the argument is “China is bad” and the other side is “no I disagree, China is very bad”. It’s not even remotely close to being fair.
Which is frankly extremely dangerous: it leads people to dramatically – and I stress this: DRAMATICALLY! – misunderstand even the most basic facts about China. Which is bad because in a world where China gains in importance it leads people to fundamentally misunderstand the world they live in, and take bad decisions in consequence. It also of course leads people to vote for the most hawkish voices on China, and the most hostile propositions against China. Which makes the world far more conflictual than it needs to be and is often against their own interests.
So dear FT: instead of making yourself the spokesperson of another delusional American government psyop, why don’t you start asking yourself real questions such as “are we shooting ourselves and the whole of humanity in the foot by continuing with the China bad narrative”?

Posted by: MD | Sep 29 2023 23:49 utc | 100