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September 20, 2023
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Anyway, this video was interesting about the whole India-Canada flap:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tINZIFK3uQc
I am privy to intelligence on the basis of which I can make credible allegations that Justin Trudeau wears pink socks. I will share this intelligence with my allies, though I cannot reveal my evidence in open court for obvious reasons.

Posted by: Deeplurker | Sep 20 2023 23:53 utc | 101

Anyway, this video was interesting about the whole India-Canada flap:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tINZIFK3uQc
I am privy to intelligence on the basis of which I can make credible allegations that Justin Trudeau wears pink socks. I will share this intelligence with my allies, though I cannot reveal my evidence in open court for obvious reasons.

Posted by: Deeplurker | Sep 20 2023 23:53 utc | 102

As expected, the UNGA has become a cat fight. A great many events occurred today and more will follow. Trying to keep pace will be a trial. Biden’s performance was foreshadowed and he delivered his lies rather well. Lavrov has yet to speak to the GA as he addressed the UNSC today. That and more will eventually be published at my substack. Global Times has a decent recap. Iran’s Raisi declared the Outlaw US Empire’s “project to Americanize the world has failed,” which is true but it keeps on trying and that’s where the big problem lies.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 21 2023 0:14 utc | 103

As expected, the UNGA has become a cat fight. A great many events occurred today and more will follow. Trying to keep pace will be a trial. Biden’s performance was foreshadowed and he delivered his lies rather well. Lavrov has yet to speak to the GA as he addressed the UNSC today. That and more will eventually be published at my substack. Global Times has a decent recap. Iran’s Raisi declared the Outlaw US Empire’s “project to Americanize the world has failed,” which is true but it keeps on trying and that’s where the big problem lies.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 21 2023 0:14 utc | 104

Giving Artsakh to Baku would discredit Moscow’s claims of Crimea.
At this point, I wouldn’t know if Vladimi Putin is retarded or wants to slowly destroy Russia.

Posted by: Katerina | Sep 21 2023 0:26 utc | 105

Giving Artsakh to Baku would discredit Moscow’s claims of Crimea.
At this point, I wouldn’t know if Vladimi Putin is retarded or wants to slowly destroy Russia.

Posted by: Katerina | Sep 21 2023 0:26 utc | 106

Ahenobarbus @ 49

Scarier than you think.

I think it’s pretty scary. Too many people think the Assange persecution is a vendetta by the Clintons, it is that but it is specifically a deep state warning to leakers and journalists across the west (Assange isn’t even a USA citizen) that the inverted totalitarianism of the cold war has now been turned right side up, Fourth Reich has risen, ding-dong wakey-wakey, get with the program or we will stick our claws in you and not relent, no mercy.
The entire Assange message blares No Mercy, Assange is to scare old media straight. If Brand is about sending the same message to the YouTubers, bloggers, social media dissenters, then he’s screwed. I’ve been following Russell since his Trews years, I think he’s a genuine good soul. I hope he makes it out ok.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 21 2023 0:41 utc | 107

Ahenobarbus @ 49

Scarier than you think.

I think it’s pretty scary. Too many people think the Assange persecution is a vendetta by the Clintons, it is that but it is specifically a deep state warning to leakers and journalists across the west (Assange isn’t even a USA citizen) that the inverted totalitarianism of the cold war has now been turned right side up, Fourth Reich has risen, ding-dong wakey-wakey, get with the program or we will stick our claws in you and not relent, no mercy.
The entire Assange message blares No Mercy, Assange is to scare old media straight. If Brand is about sending the same message to the YouTubers, bloggers, social media dissenters, then he’s screwed. I’ve been following Russell since his Trews years, I think he’s a genuine good soul. I hope he makes it out ok.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 21 2023 0:41 utc | 108

Katerina @ 53

Giving Artsakh to Baku would discredit Moscow’s claims of Crimea.

I think we are in a stark “might makes right” phase at this moment in history. No one gives a crap about contradictions anymore, that was a quaint cold war thing.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 21 2023 0:45 utc | 109

Katerina @ 53

Giving Artsakh to Baku would discredit Moscow’s claims of Crimea.

I think we are in a stark “might makes right” phase at this moment in history. No one gives a crap about contradictions anymore, that was a quaint cold war thing.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 21 2023 0:45 utc | 110

@ 55.
Don’t feed to the trolls please.
But to your point, the Russians can’t force the Armenians to fight. Which is the *real* crux of the issue.
Yerevan wants to the Russians to fight Azerbaijan for them, or act as scapegoats for the loss of N-K. This gives the government an excuse and pacifies the collective ego of the Armenian population.
The RF is under no obligation to play along with either.
They were probably right not to embroil themselves further in a Caucasian s**show, particularly on behalf of a slimy two-faced Armenian government or Baku’s Dark Borat.

Posted by: Urban Fox | Sep 21 2023 1:02 utc | 111

@ 55.
Don’t feed to the trolls please.
But to your point, the Russians can’t force the Armenians to fight. Which is the *real* crux of the issue.
Yerevan wants to the Russians to fight Azerbaijan for them, or act as scapegoats for the loss of N-K. This gives the government an excuse and pacifies the collective ego of the Armenian population.
The RF is under no obligation to play along with either.
They were probably right not to embroil themselves further in a Caucasian s**show, particularly on behalf of a slimy two-faced Armenian government or Baku’s Dark Borat.

Posted by: Urban Fox | Sep 21 2023 1:02 utc | 112

Posted by: Urban Fox | Sep 21 2023 1:02 utc | 56
The RF is under no obligation to play along with either.
Russia was Armenia’s ally and protector. It was under obligation for the former. But Russia failed its ally in both 2020 and 2023. That failure sends a message that Russia is unreliable as an ally. That’s what prompted Pashinyan’s desperate attempt to pivot to the US and the West, even though the US was allied with the Aliyev family. The person that the angry crowds in Yerevan will bring to replace Pashinyan will likely be anti-Russian.

Posted by: Inkan1969 | Sep 21 2023 1:28 utc | 113

Posted by: Urban Fox | Sep 21 2023 1:02 utc | 56
The RF is under no obligation to play along with either.
Russia was Armenia’s ally and protector. It was under obligation for the former. But Russia failed its ally in both 2020 and 2023. That failure sends a message that Russia is unreliable as an ally. That’s what prompted Pashinyan’s desperate attempt to pivot to the US and the West, even though the US was allied with the Aliyev family. The person that the angry crowds in Yerevan will bring to replace Pashinyan will likely be anti-Russian.

Posted by: Inkan1969 | Sep 21 2023 1:28 utc | 114

Reuters has a posting title up showing us what UN projection really looks like
‘Stop the war’ and Zelenskiy need not speak, UN Security Council chair tells Russia
The shit show continues until it doesn’t

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 21 2023 1:36 utc | 115

Reuters has a posting title up showing us what UN projection really looks like
‘Stop the war’ and Zelenskiy need not speak, UN Security Council chair tells Russia
The shit show continues until it doesn’t

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 21 2023 1:36 utc | 116

On Armenia, 20 September 2023 20:45: “Vladimir Putin had a telephone conversation with Prime Minister of the Republic of Armenia Nikol Pashinyan at the initiative of the Armenian side.”

Discussed the latest developments in the situation around Nagorno-Karabakh. Vladimir Putin noted with satisfaction that it had been possible to overcome the acute phase of the conflict, and welcomed what had been achieved with the active participation of Russian peacekeepers Agreement on the complete cessation of hostilities and the holding of September 21 negotiations between representatives of Baku and Stepanakert. These negotiations will take place with the mediation of the leadership of the Russian peacekeeping contingent.
Despite under difficult conditions, peacekeepers continue to clearly carry out their tasks, provide comprehensive assistance to civilians and refugees, including by forces military doctors.
It is hoped that in the future the situation will develop in the direction of de-escalation and stabilization.

Nikol Pashinyan has dug himself a deep hole. Will he escape?

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 21 2023 1:43 utc | 117

On Armenia, 20 September 2023 20:45: “Vladimir Putin had a telephone conversation with Prime Minister of the Republic of Armenia Nikol Pashinyan at the initiative of the Armenian side.”

Discussed the latest developments in the situation around Nagorno-Karabakh. Vladimir Putin noted with satisfaction that it had been possible to overcome the acute phase of the conflict, and welcomed what had been achieved with the active participation of Russian peacekeepers Agreement on the complete cessation of hostilities and the holding of September 21 negotiations between representatives of Baku and Stepanakert. These negotiations will take place with the mediation of the leadership of the Russian peacekeeping contingent.
Despite under difficult conditions, peacekeepers continue to clearly carry out their tasks, provide comprehensive assistance to civilians and refugees, including by forces military doctors.
It is hoped that in the future the situation will develop in the direction of de-escalation and stabilization.

Nikol Pashinyan has dug himself a deep hole. Will he escape?

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 21 2023 1:43 utc | 118

Karabakh integration into Azerbaïjan parallels Donbas and Tauride integration into Russia. Simple as that.
It can of course be read the way around as a capture of a region from Armenia/Ukraine by Azerbaïjan/Russia respectively. But this loss of territory by Armenia is welcomed by the Neo-Carolingians (= the “West”, a misnomer…).
So if Armenia losing Karabakh to Azerbaïjan is good, then the same Ukraine losing Donbass-Tauride to Russia…
Karabakh Armenians are of course upset against Pashanyan, but “mainland” Armenians have been worked since long by Neo-Carolingians organizations. What is the real position of Pashanyan is unclear: a fool or an agent traitor to his own country.
Anyway the move there is a desperate try of the Carolingians to create a disruptive corridor through the Caucasus.
Idea is of course to get a corridor to Caspian and KZ gas supplies, to make harder Iran-Russia logistics via Azerbaijan, and have a military base just there by Iran border and Caspian.
On the other hand Turks are not wanting to become yet another little toy of the Carolingians. Erdogan remembers too well the 2016 American coup attempt, the attacks on the turkish banking system, and as he reminded the other day, the fact that EU will keep Turkish candidature in limbo ad vitam aeternam. Ursula Von der Nazien wants to turbo speed membership of the broken and rotten Khokholandia in complete disrespect of Turkya…
Turks play in their own interests and know very well that Anglo-Saxons are no good.
Iran succeeded in trading some gringos they kept jailed for a while, for the release of some frozen iranian assets. This money in $/£/€ stays under control and scrutiny of the gringos, but so long Iran doesn’t buy nuclear related stuff they still can use it for social domestic matters. Otherwise Iran isn’t given anything else.
So on all fronts United Suki of Amerika and United Kunts have not having an easy time.

Posted by: Timur | Sep 21 2023 1:46 utc | 119

Karabakh integration into Azerbaïjan parallels Donbas and Tauride integration into Russia. Simple as that.
It can of course be read the way around as a capture of a region from Armenia/Ukraine by Azerbaïjan/Russia respectively. But this loss of territory by Armenia is welcomed by the Neo-Carolingians (= the “West”, a misnomer…).
So if Armenia losing Karabakh to Azerbaïjan is good, then the same Ukraine losing Donbass-Tauride to Russia…
Karabakh Armenians are of course upset against Pashanyan, but “mainland” Armenians have been worked since long by Neo-Carolingians organizations. What is the real position of Pashanyan is unclear: a fool or an agent traitor to his own country.
Anyway the move there is a desperate try of the Carolingians to create a disruptive corridor through the Caucasus.
Idea is of course to get a corridor to Caspian and KZ gas supplies, to make harder Iran-Russia logistics via Azerbaijan, and have a military base just there by Iran border and Caspian.
On the other hand Turks are not wanting to become yet another little toy of the Carolingians. Erdogan remembers too well the 2016 American coup attempt, the attacks on the turkish banking system, and as he reminded the other day, the fact that EU will keep Turkish candidature in limbo ad vitam aeternam. Ursula Von der Nazien wants to turbo speed membership of the broken and rotten Khokholandia in complete disrespect of Turkya…
Turks play in their own interests and know very well that Anglo-Saxons are no good.
Iran succeeded in trading some gringos they kept jailed for a while, for the release of some frozen iranian assets. This money in $/£/€ stays under control and scrutiny of the gringos, but so long Iran doesn’t buy nuclear related stuff they still can use it for social domestic matters. Otherwise Iran isn’t given anything else.
So on all fronts United Suki of Amerika and United Kunts have not having an easy time.

Posted by: Timur | Sep 21 2023 1:46 utc | 120

@ LightYearsFromHome | Sep 20 2023 21:33 utc | 38
Yes, I’m inclined to agree with you there. Very much mirrors Assange’s unfolding story and how it played out. Brand should leg it asap and not waste time. It’s wrong what’s being done to him, and imo, obviously so. But he can’t win, the whole system is corrupted in the UK west.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 21 2023 2:00 utc | 121

@ LightYearsFromHome | Sep 20 2023 21:33 utc | 38
Yes, I’m inclined to agree with you there. Very much mirrors Assange’s unfolding story and how it played out. Brand should leg it asap and not waste time. It’s wrong what’s being done to him, and imo, obviously so. But he can’t win, the whole system is corrupted in the UK west.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 21 2023 2:00 utc | 122

LoveDonbass | Sep 20 2023 14:09 utc | 4
d | Sep 20 2023 15:18 utc | 9
BB | Sep 20 2023 17:49 utc | 19
bubbles | Sep 20 2023 21:26 utc | 37
Deeplurker | Sep 20 2023 23:53 utc | 51
and especially Refinnejenna | Sep 20 2023 23:19 utc | 47
Many thanks for your helpful responses to my query!
Maybe I missed something, but I am still unclear as to how/if this Khalistan business fits in with the revocation of Article 370 in 2019. My previous impression was that that was predominantly an anti-Muslim action by parliament. Completely unrelated, apart from the common geography?

Posted by: farm ecologist | Sep 21 2023 2:08 utc | 123

LoveDonbass | Sep 20 2023 14:09 utc | 4
d | Sep 20 2023 15:18 utc | 9
BB | Sep 20 2023 17:49 utc | 19
bubbles | Sep 20 2023 21:26 utc | 37
Deeplurker | Sep 20 2023 23:53 utc | 51
and especially Refinnejenna | Sep 20 2023 23:19 utc | 47
Many thanks for your helpful responses to my query!
Maybe I missed something, but I am still unclear as to how/if this Khalistan business fits in with the revocation of Article 370 in 2019. My previous impression was that that was predominantly an anti-Muslim action by parliament. Completely unrelated, apart from the common geography?

Posted by: farm ecologist | Sep 21 2023 2:08 utc | 124

psychohistorian | Sep 21 2023 1:36 utc | 58–
Albania is the current chair-holding nation. Lavrov turned the tables on him. Imagine a scoring thrust while fencing:
“All the facts of the ‘engineering’ of the Ukrainian crisis have long been known, but they are trying in every possible way to silence, to ‘cancel’ the entire history until 2014. Therefore, the topic of today’s meeting, proposed by the Albanian presidency, is very opportune and allows us to restore the chronological chain of events, and it is in the context of the attitude of the main actors to the implementation of the principles and goals of the UN Charter.” [My Emphasis]
Lavrov then proceeds to recap the whole sordid affair from the first coup in 2004-5 to the present as a well-seasoned Prosecuting Attorney would do. IMO, it’s devastating. Soon to be on my substack.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 21 2023 2:23 utc | 125

psychohistorian | Sep 21 2023 1:36 utc | 58–
Albania is the current chair-holding nation. Lavrov turned the tables on him. Imagine a scoring thrust while fencing:
“All the facts of the ‘engineering’ of the Ukrainian crisis have long been known, but they are trying in every possible way to silence, to ‘cancel’ the entire history until 2014. Therefore, the topic of today’s meeting, proposed by the Albanian presidency, is very opportune and allows us to restore the chronological chain of events, and it is in the context of the attitude of the main actors to the implementation of the principles and goals of the UN Charter.” [My Emphasis]
Lavrov then proceeds to recap the whole sordid affair from the first coup in 2004-5 to the present as a well-seasoned Prosecuting Attorney would do. IMO, it’s devastating. Soon to be on my substack.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 21 2023 2:23 utc | 126

Here is a brief primer on India, Canadastan, and “Khalistan”:
1. Sikhism is not a fully independent religion from Hinduism. It started as an egalitarian monotheistic Hindu sect, and then morphed into a warrior sect that claimed to protect Hindus from the Mughal Empire that then ruled North India, and at independence in 1947 nobody raised any questions about an “independent Sikh homeland”. Sikhs were forced out of Pakistan en masse in 1947 just as Hindus were.
2. In the 1970s Sikh politics became increasingly identitarian because of several factors including employment opportunities that I won’t go into here, but the end result was a Sikh religious assembly issuing a set of demands called the Anandpur Sahib Resolution. This called for the (slightly Sikh majority) state of Punjab to be given near total autonomy, with the Indian government only being in charge of defence, foreign affairs, currency and communications. If this had been accepted, all other states would have demanded the same, and the country would inevitably have fallen apart. No government could have accepted it, and the government did not.
3. In reaction to the government not accepting the demand, the Sikh political party the Akali Dal began agitating “peacefully” (said peaceful agitation included grain blockades). At the same time multiple armed groups began a low scale insurgency for an independent state of “Khalistan”. The most important and influential of these groups, which had no actual name, was one led by a cleric called Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale.
4. The borders of this “Khalistan” deoended on which of the insurgent groups you asked. To some it included all of India except Kashmir. To others it included all of India except Kashmir and the north east. To yet others it included various areas of North India. And to some it also had parts of Pakistan. None of this prevented Pakistan from arming and training numbers of insurgents in makeshift training camps in various Pakistani jails, because Pakistan knew that there was no chance of Khalistan ever becoming a thing anyway.
5. In 1980 Indira Gandhi, who had been kicked out of office in a shock electoral loss in 1977, returned to power. She was by that stage utterly paranoid and had only one aim: to hold on to power, not just in the country but in her own Congress Party. In order to destabilise the Akali Dal – which only wanted autonomy – in Punjab she began covertly encouraging the insurgency.
6. In the insurgency at this time Bhindranwale’s outfit was by far the most numerous, well armed, and influential, and Indira Gandhi selectively armed and trained it in preference to other smaller groups opposed to Bhindranwale like the Babbar Khalsa. (This worked about as well as you’d expect, with the Babbar Khalsa becoming a far greater problem in the long run.) Bhindranwale even campaigned for Indira Gandhi in Punjab state elections, appeared alongside Indira Gandhi’s Cobgress Party stooge Zail Singh on stage, and took over multiple gurdwaras (Sikh temples) all over Punjab.
7. By 1981-2 Bhindranwale had got so powerful that his men conducted a massive procession and vehicular convoy in broad daylight in the middle of Delhi, waving around automatic weapons and shouting secessionist slogans….and the government and its security services did nothing. Sikh Communist politician Harkishan Singh Surjeet demanded in Parliament to know why this had been allowed, but the government made no response.
8. By early 1984 Bhindranwale had infiltrated and then taken over the most important Sikh shrine, the Golden Temple in Amritsar. He heavily fortified the temple complex and surrounding buildings, and made it his headquarters from where his death squads went out to murder and extort from people. By that point Punjab had turned into an ISIS style Sikh Caliphate.
9. In June 1984 Indira Gandhi, faced with a situation of her own making that was spiralling out of control, sent the military to capture the Golden Temple. This episode, called Operation Bluestar, was one of the most significant things that happened in India in the last 50 years. After a bloody storming attack the insurgents in the Temple were eliminated and Bhindranwale killed…but the Temple was largely destroyed, Sikhs worldwide were outraged, and Bhindranwale suddenly became a martyr. Some Sikh troops in the army even mutinied.
10. On 31 October 1984 Indira Gandhi was murdered by her own Sikh bodyguards in retaliation for Operation Bluestar. There’s no evidence that said bodyguards were part of any insurgent group or supported Khalistan. This was followed by a days-long anti Sikh pogrom organised and led by Gandhi’s Congress Party, which, of course, created more support for the insurgency.
11. In June 1985, Canadastani citizens who were part of Babbar Khalsa put bombs on board two Air India passenger planes flying from Canadastan to India. One of the bombs exploded in transit in Narita Airport in Tokyo killing two luggage handlers. The other blew up Air India Flight 182, a Boeing 747, over the Atlantic killing 329 people, the vast majority of whom were ironically Canadastani citizens.
12. Over the next few years, the Khalistani groups continued a campaign of murder across Punjab and in other parts of aindia, killing, among others, Akali Dal leader Harchand Singh Longowal, retired general Arun Vaidya, who had been army chief art the time of Operation Bluestar, and Punjab Chief Minister Beant Singh. In 1987 they even briefly recaptured the rebuilt Golden Temple, but this time the authorities managed to flush them out by a siege and sniper fire (Operation Black Thunder II) instead of another idiotic all out attack.
13. By the early 1990s the Khalistani groups had become totally criminalised, carrying out land grabs, acting as hitmen for pay, and drug and gun running. Most of their victims were, of course, other Sikhs.
14. At this point the Punjab Police, under Sikh director general of police Kanwar Pal Singh Gill, began a ruthless campaign to exterminate the Khalistanis. This involved eliminating anyone who was even remotely suspected of being a Khalistani. This campaign was probably even bloodier than the insurgency itself, but it worked; by the mid 90s the armed groups had been crushed, the few surviving leaders having fled abroad to Pakistan (like Wassan Singh Zaffarwal) or, of course, to the world centre of nazism and terrorism, Canadastan.
15. Here are a few points:
(a) The Khalistanis, as opposed to the Akalis, never had the support of the majority of Sikhs.
(b) The Akalis today are a fragmented bunch of parties who have little support among Sikhs and Akali Dal factions are allied with Modi’s BJP anyway.
(c) No Indian government, whichever it may be, will ever allow the Khalistani movement to get going again under any circumstances.
(d) India has noticed that Khalistanism has suddenly started making loud noises ever since India refused to join the anti Russian bandwagon. This is not a coincidence.
(e) Just like Canadastan openly supports and encourages nazis in Ukraine and jihadis in Syria, it makes zero effort to crack down on Khalistanis in Canada.
(f) Khalistanis in Canada openly conduct armed training camps with automatic weapons. For fun? I don’t think so.
16. On that basis, pre emptively taking out these Khalistanis is not just a logical but necessary move.
17. Canadastan is no longer of much importance to India. Relations with it are much less important than preventing the insurgency from starting up again.
That is all.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Sep 21 2023 2:38 utc | 127

Here is a brief primer on India, Canadastan, and “Khalistan”:
1. Sikhism is not a fully independent religion from Hinduism. It started as an egalitarian monotheistic Hindu sect, and then morphed into a warrior sect that claimed to protect Hindus from the Mughal Empire that then ruled North India, and at independence in 1947 nobody raised any questions about an “independent Sikh homeland”. Sikhs were forced out of Pakistan en masse in 1947 just as Hindus were.
2. In the 1970s Sikh politics became increasingly identitarian because of several factors including employment opportunities that I won’t go into here, but the end result was a Sikh religious assembly issuing a set of demands called the Anandpur Sahib Resolution. This called for the (slightly Sikh majority) state of Punjab to be given near total autonomy, with the Indian government only being in charge of defence, foreign affairs, currency and communications. If this had been accepted, all other states would have demanded the same, and the country would inevitably have fallen apart. No government could have accepted it, and the government did not.
3. In reaction to the government not accepting the demand, the Sikh political party the Akali Dal began agitating “peacefully” (said peaceful agitation included grain blockades). At the same time multiple armed groups began a low scale insurgency for an independent state of “Khalistan”. The most important and influential of these groups, which had no actual name, was one led by a cleric called Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale.
4. The borders of this “Khalistan” deoended on which of the insurgent groups you asked. To some it included all of India except Kashmir. To others it included all of India except Kashmir and the north east. To yet others it included various areas of North India. And to some it also had parts of Pakistan. None of this prevented Pakistan from arming and training numbers of insurgents in makeshift training camps in various Pakistani jails, because Pakistan knew that there was no chance of Khalistan ever becoming a thing anyway.
5. In 1980 Indira Gandhi, who had been kicked out of office in a shock electoral loss in 1977, returned to power. She was by that stage utterly paranoid and had only one aim: to hold on to power, not just in the country but in her own Congress Party. In order to destabilise the Akali Dal – which only wanted autonomy – in Punjab she began covertly encouraging the insurgency.
6. In the insurgency at this time Bhindranwale’s outfit was by far the most numerous, well armed, and influential, and Indira Gandhi selectively armed and trained it in preference to other smaller groups opposed to Bhindranwale like the Babbar Khalsa. (This worked about as well as you’d expect, with the Babbar Khalsa becoming a far greater problem in the long run.) Bhindranwale even campaigned for Indira Gandhi in Punjab state elections, appeared alongside Indira Gandhi’s Cobgress Party stooge Zail Singh on stage, and took over multiple gurdwaras (Sikh temples) all over Punjab.
7. By 1981-2 Bhindranwale had got so powerful that his men conducted a massive procession and vehicular convoy in broad daylight in the middle of Delhi, waving around automatic weapons and shouting secessionist slogans….and the government and its security services did nothing. Sikh Communist politician Harkishan Singh Surjeet demanded in Parliament to know why this had been allowed, but the government made no response.
8. By early 1984 Bhindranwale had infiltrated and then taken over the most important Sikh shrine, the Golden Temple in Amritsar. He heavily fortified the temple complex and surrounding buildings, and made it his headquarters from where his death squads went out to murder and extort from people. By that point Punjab had turned into an ISIS style Sikh Caliphate.
9. In June 1984 Indira Gandhi, faced with a situation of her own making that was spiralling out of control, sent the military to capture the Golden Temple. This episode, called Operation Bluestar, was one of the most significant things that happened in India in the last 50 years. After a bloody storming attack the insurgents in the Temple were eliminated and Bhindranwale killed…but the Temple was largely destroyed, Sikhs worldwide were outraged, and Bhindranwale suddenly became a martyr. Some Sikh troops in the army even mutinied.
10. On 31 October 1984 Indira Gandhi was murdered by her own Sikh bodyguards in retaliation for Operation Bluestar. There’s no evidence that said bodyguards were part of any insurgent group or supported Khalistan. This was followed by a days-long anti Sikh pogrom organised and led by Gandhi’s Congress Party, which, of course, created more support for the insurgency.
11. In June 1985, Canadastani citizens who were part of Babbar Khalsa put bombs on board two Air India passenger planes flying from Canadastan to India. One of the bombs exploded in transit in Narita Airport in Tokyo killing two luggage handlers. The other blew up Air India Flight 182, a Boeing 747, over the Atlantic killing 329 people, the vast majority of whom were ironically Canadastani citizens.
12. Over the next few years, the Khalistani groups continued a campaign of murder across Punjab and in other parts of aindia, killing, among others, Akali Dal leader Harchand Singh Longowal, retired general Arun Vaidya, who had been army chief art the time of Operation Bluestar, and Punjab Chief Minister Beant Singh. In 1987 they even briefly recaptured the rebuilt Golden Temple, but this time the authorities managed to flush them out by a siege and sniper fire (Operation Black Thunder II) instead of another idiotic all out attack.
13. By the early 1990s the Khalistani groups had become totally criminalised, carrying out land grabs, acting as hitmen for pay, and drug and gun running. Most of their victims were, of course, other Sikhs.
14. At this point the Punjab Police, under Sikh director general of police Kanwar Pal Singh Gill, began a ruthless campaign to exterminate the Khalistanis. This involved eliminating anyone who was even remotely suspected of being a Khalistani. This campaign was probably even bloodier than the insurgency itself, but it worked; by the mid 90s the armed groups had been crushed, the few surviving leaders having fled abroad to Pakistan (like Wassan Singh Zaffarwal) or, of course, to the world centre of nazism and terrorism, Canadastan.
15. Here are a few points:
(a) The Khalistanis, as opposed to the Akalis, never had the support of the majority of Sikhs.
(b) The Akalis today are a fragmented bunch of parties who have little support among Sikhs and Akali Dal factions are allied with Modi’s BJP anyway.
(c) No Indian government, whichever it may be, will ever allow the Khalistani movement to get going again under any circumstances.
(d) India has noticed that Khalistanism has suddenly started making loud noises ever since India refused to join the anti Russian bandwagon. This is not a coincidence.
(e) Just like Canadastan openly supports and encourages nazis in Ukraine and jihadis in Syria, it makes zero effort to crack down on Khalistanis in Canada.
(f) Khalistanis in Canada openly conduct armed training camps with automatic weapons. For fun? I don’t think so.
16. On that basis, pre emptively taking out these Khalistanis is not just a logical but necessary move.
17. Canadastan is no longer of much importance to India. Relations with it are much less important than preventing the insurgency from starting up again.
That is all.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Sep 21 2023 2:38 utc | 128

A look at the rising multipolar order, and why history has no end, through the lens of the Western concept of Oriental despotism:
https://www.beyondwasteland.net/p/oriental-despotism-historys-eternally

Posted by: KevinB | Sep 21 2023 3:00 utc | 129

A look at the rising multipolar order, and why history has no end, through the lens of the Western concept of Oriental despotism:
https://www.beyondwasteland.net/p/oriental-despotism-historys-eternally

Posted by: KevinB | Sep 21 2023 3:00 utc | 130

@ Altai | Sep 20 2023 22:20 utc | 42
Thanks for the news report on Armenian separatists. Possibly this is the most sane and logical response – to “quit” and face reality. It was fake enclave based on ethnic cleansing of Muslims to start with.
The current dramas do go back to the soviet collapse 3 decades ago fyi
Modern Armenia is very much a product of Imperial and Soviet Russia.
https://drpatwalsh.com/2023/09/16/russia-and-armenias-pivot-to-the-west/

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 21 2023 3:03 utc | 131

@ Altai | Sep 20 2023 22:20 utc | 42
Thanks for the news report on Armenian separatists. Possibly this is the most sane and logical response – to “quit” and face reality. It was fake enclave based on ethnic cleansing of Muslims to start with.
The current dramas do go back to the soviet collapse 3 decades ago fyi
Modern Armenia is very much a product of Imperial and Soviet Russia.
https://drpatwalsh.com/2023/09/16/russia-and-armenias-pivot-to-the-west/

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 21 2023 3:03 utc | 132

Re: de-dollarization
Indeed, Chinese holders of US Treasuiy debt are not likely going to dump their holdings all at once. Dumping leads to crashing prices in the secondary market.
Their most likely course of action is to simply let their Treasuires mature over time and not buy anymore Treasuires. ( aka stop rolling over their holdings)

Posted by: Exile | Sep 21 2023 3:13 utc | 133

Re: de-dollarization
Indeed, Chinese holders of US Treasuiy debt are not likely going to dump their holdings all at once. Dumping leads to crashing prices in the secondary market.
Their most likely course of action is to simply let their Treasuires mature over time and not buy anymore Treasuires. ( aka stop rolling over their holdings)

Posted by: Exile | Sep 21 2023 3:13 utc | 134

Posted by: Urban Fox | Sep 21 2023 1:02 utc | 56
You are right that Russia is under no moral obligation to help Armenia ; as after all Pashinyan has betrayed Russia numerous times. However, Armenia is a member of CSTO and also has Russian bases there. So Russia defacto has to help Armenia if N. Karabakh and Armenia are threatened by Turco-Azerbaijani /USA. If they don’t , they will lose their bases in Armenia , and lose the North South Axis Corridor that has so much potential for trade . Don’t forget the lost prestige of not coming to the aid of a fellow-Christian nation. The ROW rightly and sadly expects much from Russia.
I would not be surprised that this whole plan -with Pashinian onboard -is to get Russia bogged down on another front. If Pashinian keeps NK and Armenia with Russian help he looks good, if he loses, he can blame Russia and also look good to his American backers.
Sadly Armenia is lost with a corrupt, stupid weakling like him.
Posted by: Timur | Sep 21 2023 1:46 utc | 60
Agree with many points but not others. In any case, I love your term “Neo-Carolingians” and plan to use it or a variation of in future. In my own writing. Well done.
Posted by: Deeplurker | Sep 20 2023 23:53 utc | 51
Pink -socks? Many wear pink socks but are not gay ,but I get your drift. Well why would we be surprised in any case? I have thought that for many a year as his girlish facial features, lascivious but empty expression, choice of being a drama teacher , tending toward leftist woke open causes and being so spineless with the US all give me great confidence that my belief is justified. Please tell us who your allies? If we are not also your allies, why tell us and leave us hanging?
As for the Khalistanis ,they should just shut up. They have no credibility given they have not attacked Pakistan which was also Sikh country (Pakistani Punjab) . If they think , they will have a Khalistan which is bigger than a thumbprint , they better have a paln on how to subjugate Pakistan and the Muslims of Jammu and Kashmir.
As for Sikhs in general ,I have very good impressions of them . I like them as a people, I have read their history , and know a little of their religion. It is Islam’s loss that they were not able to coopt these people many centuries ago. Serves the Sunni extremist traditional Muslim rulers right…

Posted by: Wondrous | Sep 21 2023 3:14 utc | 135

Posted by: Urban Fox | Sep 21 2023 1:02 utc | 56
You are right that Russia is under no moral obligation to help Armenia ; as after all Pashinyan has betrayed Russia numerous times. However, Armenia is a member of CSTO and also has Russian bases there. So Russia defacto has to help Armenia if N. Karabakh and Armenia are threatened by Turco-Azerbaijani /USA. If they don’t , they will lose their bases in Armenia , and lose the North South Axis Corridor that has so much potential for trade . Don’t forget the lost prestige of not coming to the aid of a fellow-Christian nation. The ROW rightly and sadly expects much from Russia.
I would not be surprised that this whole plan -with Pashinian onboard -is to get Russia bogged down on another front. If Pashinian keeps NK and Armenia with Russian help he looks good, if he loses, he can blame Russia and also look good to his American backers.
Sadly Armenia is lost with a corrupt, stupid weakling like him.
Posted by: Timur | Sep 21 2023 1:46 utc | 60
Agree with many points but not others. In any case, I love your term “Neo-Carolingians” and plan to use it or a variation of in future. In my own writing. Well done.
Posted by: Deeplurker | Sep 20 2023 23:53 utc | 51
Pink -socks? Many wear pink socks but are not gay ,but I get your drift. Well why would we be surprised in any case? I have thought that for many a year as his girlish facial features, lascivious but empty expression, choice of being a drama teacher , tending toward leftist woke open causes and being so spineless with the US all give me great confidence that my belief is justified. Please tell us who your allies? If we are not also your allies, why tell us and leave us hanging?
As for the Khalistanis ,they should just shut up. They have no credibility given they have not attacked Pakistan which was also Sikh country (Pakistani Punjab) . If they think , they will have a Khalistan which is bigger than a thumbprint , they better have a paln on how to subjugate Pakistan and the Muslims of Jammu and Kashmir.
As for Sikhs in general ,I have very good impressions of them . I like them as a people, I have read their history , and know a little of their religion. It is Islam’s loss that they were not able to coopt these people many centuries ago. Serves the Sunni extremist traditional Muslim rulers right…

Posted by: Wondrous | Sep 21 2023 3:14 utc | 136

@farm ecologist 62
It has nothing to do with the revocation of Article 370.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Sep 21 2023 3:22 utc | 137

@farm ecologist 62
It has nothing to do with the revocation of Article 370.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Sep 21 2023 3:22 utc | 138

@ Neocons | Sep 20 2023 18:20 utc | 23
Regarding Armenia’s “pivot to the West,” yes, Armenia would love to do that, but they are stuck and almost friendless in the cruel world because of their geography. Little Armenia, the tiny remnant of the earlier Armenian hopes and dreams for a massive state (e.g., https://www.crouchrarebooks.com/maps/the-first-republic-of-armenia-claims-its-ancient-territories ), is a completely landlocked, high mountainous, mostly barren, depleted, almost resourceless, and poor land surrounded by enemies who have very little sympathy for the Armenians owing to more than a century of conflict. Armenia has nothing to offer compared even to Azerbaijan, and much less to Turkey, a vastly larger state. Its only real friend is Iran, similarly outcast. This is despite the fact that a quarter of the Iranians are Turkish-speaking, including those who live along the small Armenian border. Armenia has been forced to stay with the Russian alliance and indeed has somewhat depended on Russian protection for reassurance.
Meanwhile, Azerbaijan basks in the support not just of Turkey, but also the US and especially Israel, which hopes to use it against Iran. The vast Turkic world of over 170,000,000 people with majorities in Turkey, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, and Kazakhstan, and large minorities in Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Tajikistan, Russia, and China is just way too big of a prize for the US not to pursue and cultivate, and the fewer than 3 million people in Armenia are just not an equal interest, nor can they ever be.
The large Armenian diaspora in the West may hope that they can influence US and other western foreign policies, but they haven’t been able to do so to date, and there is no probability that they can do that in the future either. So poor little Armenia is just out of luck and will never get anything. Unfortunately for it, the current situation resembles how the West utilized the Armenians against the Ottoman Empire before the First World War and then dumped them in that war’s aftermath. Had the Soviet Union not insisted on reasserting itself in the Caucasus, even the present-day remnant Armenia would probably not have survived.

Posted by: Cabe | Sep 21 2023 3:58 utc | 139

@ Neocons | Sep 20 2023 18:20 utc | 23
Regarding Armenia’s “pivot to the West,” yes, Armenia would love to do that, but they are stuck and almost friendless in the cruel world because of their geography. Little Armenia, the tiny remnant of the earlier Armenian hopes and dreams for a massive state (e.g., https://www.crouchrarebooks.com/maps/the-first-republic-of-armenia-claims-its-ancient-territories ), is a completely landlocked, high mountainous, mostly barren, depleted, almost resourceless, and poor land surrounded by enemies who have very little sympathy for the Armenians owing to more than a century of conflict. Armenia has nothing to offer compared even to Azerbaijan, and much less to Turkey, a vastly larger state. Its only real friend is Iran, similarly outcast. This is despite the fact that a quarter of the Iranians are Turkish-speaking, including those who live along the small Armenian border. Armenia has been forced to stay with the Russian alliance and indeed has somewhat depended on Russian protection for reassurance.
Meanwhile, Azerbaijan basks in the support not just of Turkey, but also the US and especially Israel, which hopes to use it against Iran. The vast Turkic world of over 170,000,000 people with majorities in Turkey, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, and Kazakhstan, and large minorities in Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Tajikistan, Russia, and China is just way too big of a prize for the US not to pursue and cultivate, and the fewer than 3 million people in Armenia are just not an equal interest, nor can they ever be.
The large Armenian diaspora in the West may hope that they can influence US and other western foreign policies, but they haven’t been able to do so to date, and there is no probability that they can do that in the future either. So poor little Armenia is just out of luck and will never get anything. Unfortunately for it, the current situation resembles how the West utilized the Armenians against the Ottoman Empire before the First World War and then dumped them in that war’s aftermath. Had the Soviet Union not insisted on reasserting itself in the Caucasus, even the present-day remnant Armenia would probably not have survived.

Posted by: Cabe | Sep 21 2023 3:58 utc | 140

“Lavrov’s Devastating UNSC Presentation” is now translated and published. Do please participate in the poll at its end.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 21 2023 4:11 utc | 141

“Lavrov’s Devastating UNSC Presentation” is now translated and published. Do please participate in the poll at its end.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 21 2023 4:11 utc | 142

Just an observation:
the climate change (global warming) arguments on virtually every website that is pro-Russian seem to be dominated by people who adamantly do not believe in anthropogenic global warming. This is also true for most “conservative” websites like Zero Hedge, which in the comments and many articles is very clearly pro-Russian (they display up-votes and down-votes).
It is clear to me, and I have studied it for years even before it became so politicized, as well as having worked outside all of my life, that global warming is undeniably real.
Russia, that gigantic land-mass in northern Eurasia that is mostly Siberian taiga and tundra, has a helluva lot to gain economically if the climate continues to warm. The faster the better. Huge masses of formerly unproductive frozen wastelands will eventually become very productive agricultural lands if global warming continues at the present rate.

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 21 2023 4:21 utc | 143

Just an observation:
the climate change (global warming) arguments on virtually every website that is pro-Russian seem to be dominated by people who adamantly do not believe in anthropogenic global warming. This is also true for most “conservative” websites like Zero Hedge, which in the comments and many articles is very clearly pro-Russian (they display up-votes and down-votes).
It is clear to me, and I have studied it for years even before it became so politicized, as well as having worked outside all of my life, that global warming is undeniably real.
Russia, that gigantic land-mass in northern Eurasia that is mostly Siberian taiga and tundra, has a helluva lot to gain economically if the climate continues to warm. The faster the better. Huge masses of formerly unproductive frozen wastelands will eventually become very productive agricultural lands if global warming continues at the present rate.

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 21 2023 4:21 utc | 144

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 21 2023 4:21 utc | 72
Thinking out loud….maybe the whole political western MSM push for “fighting climate change” might really be about hurting Russia’s potential for economic advancement. I would think Canada could also benefit from global warming. Australia not so much. Certainly not the sw US, where I live.

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 21 2023 4:47 utc | 145

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 21 2023 4:21 utc | 72
Thinking out loud….maybe the whole political western MSM push for “fighting climate change” might really be about hurting Russia’s potential for economic advancement. I would think Canada could also benefit from global warming. Australia not so much. Certainly not the sw US, where I live.

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 21 2023 4:47 utc | 146

If I’m right it would suggest he’s actually pretty clean.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 20 2023 21:33 utc | 38
We’re at the stage where my wife says “it doesn’t work anymore”
Commenting on all MSM is blocked, but it you look through Twitter on anything discussing it there’s a clear majority of people who don’t think it’s any more than he’s upset the establishment. Whether they can continue to shut him down on that basis is another matter.

Posted by: PalmaSailor | Sep 21 2023 4:49 utc | 147

If I’m right it would suggest he’s actually pretty clean.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 20 2023 21:33 utc | 38
We’re at the stage where my wife says “it doesn’t work anymore”
Commenting on all MSM is blocked, but it you look through Twitter on anything discussing it there’s a clear majority of people who don’t think it’s any more than he’s upset the establishment. Whether they can continue to shut him down on that basis is another matter.

Posted by: PalmaSailor | Sep 21 2023 4:49 utc | 148

Big thank you to Karlof1 for doing the work that the US fake “journalists” and MSM won’t do. Please keep it up. Your hard work is greatly appreciated by many.

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 21 2023 4:55 utc | 149

Big thank you to Karlof1 for doing the work that the US fake “journalists” and MSM won’t do. Please keep it up. Your hard work is greatly appreciated by many.

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 21 2023 4:55 utc | 150

Commenting on all MSM is blocked…
Posted by: PalmaSailor | Sep 21 2023 4:49 utc | 74
Yes it is. Or if it isn’t completely blocked, it is very heavily “moderated” to allow only approved comments that support the narrative.
They hate freedom of speech.

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 21 2023 5:11 utc | 151

Commenting on all MSM is blocked…
Posted by: PalmaSailor | Sep 21 2023 4:49 utc | 74
Yes it is. Or if it isn’t completely blocked, it is very heavily “moderated” to allow only approved comments that support the narrative.
They hate freedom of speech.

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 21 2023 5:11 utc | 152

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Sep 21 2023 2:38 utc | 64
1.5 In 1966, following agitation by the Akali Dal for a ‘Sikh and Punjabi-speaking linguistic homeland’ (Punjabi Suba movement) for the Sikhs in India, the states of Punjab and Haryana, plus Union Territories Chandigarh and Himachal were created. The state of Punjab had the Sikh majority and was primarily Punjabi speaking as demanded…
So you could say that the Indian state did respond to their concerns at that time…

Posted by: Deeplurker | Sep 21 2023 5:13 utc | 153

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Sep 21 2023 2:38 utc | 64
1.5 In 1966, following agitation by the Akali Dal for a ‘Sikh and Punjabi-speaking linguistic homeland’ (Punjabi Suba movement) for the Sikhs in India, the states of Punjab and Haryana, plus Union Territories Chandigarh and Himachal were created. The state of Punjab had the Sikh majority and was primarily Punjabi speaking as demanded…
So you could say that the Indian state did respond to their concerns at that time…

Posted by: Deeplurker | Sep 21 2023 5:13 utc | 154

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 21 2023 5:11 utc | 76
Sometimes MSM media websites (if they allow comments at all, which is rare now) will allow a dissenting comment as long as it is easily refuted. They only allow controlled opposition comments, usually over-the-top stuff. Likely a fed poster.

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 21 2023 5:20 utc | 155

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 21 2023 5:11 utc | 76
Sometimes MSM media websites (if they allow comments at all, which is rare now) will allow a dissenting comment as long as it is easily refuted. They only allow controlled opposition comments, usually over-the-top stuff. Likely a fed poster.

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 21 2023 5:20 utc | 156

Posted by: Wondrous | Sep 21 2023 3:14 utc | 68
Absolutely nothing against gays, poor choice of color, it was meant to be random… OK, burnt ochre with blue spots if you like. I was just aiming for the ridiculous, point being that since evidence would be unlikely to be openly presented even if it existed why make publicly unsubstantiable insinuations? Just looks desperate, which is the last thing you want to look if you are indeed desperate…

Posted by: Deeplurker | Sep 21 2023 5:21 utc | 157

Posted by: Wondrous | Sep 21 2023 3:14 utc | 68
Absolutely nothing against gays, poor choice of color, it was meant to be random… OK, burnt ochre with blue spots if you like. I was just aiming for the ridiculous, point being that since evidence would be unlikely to be openly presented even if it existed why make publicly unsubstantiable insinuations? Just looks desperate, which is the last thing you want to look if you are indeed desperate…

Posted by: Deeplurker | Sep 21 2023 5:21 utc | 158

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 21 2023 4:21 utc | 72
Well, in that case at least Sunak is doing his bit for Russia :).

Posted by: Deeplurker | Sep 21 2023 5:30 utc | 159

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 21 2023 4:21 utc | 72
Well, in that case at least Sunak is doing his bit for Russia :).

Posted by: Deeplurker | Sep 21 2023 5:30 utc | 160

@ karlof1 | Sep 21 2023 4:11 utc | 71 with the Lavrov UNSC speech…thanks
Speaking truth to power comes to mind about the speech……like screeching tires as rubber meets road.
Too bad its all been said before and is still ignored by so many.
I hope it keeps being said until listened to seriously.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 21 2023 5:38 utc | 161

@ karlof1 | Sep 21 2023 4:11 utc | 71 with the Lavrov UNSC speech…thanks
Speaking truth to power comes to mind about the speech……like screeching tires as rubber meets road.
Too bad its all been said before and is still ignored by so many.
I hope it keeps being said until listened to seriously.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 21 2023 5:38 utc | 162

“Well, in that case at least Sunak is doing his bit for Russia :).”
Posted by: Deeplurker | Sep 21 2023 5:30 utc | 80
I don’t get that comment. Every western politician (US puppet) without question supports political and economic “action” supposedly against global warming. Global warming will clearly benefit the Russian economy and other countries in far northern latitudes. The faster it warms the better!

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 21 2023 5:50 utc | 163

“Well, in that case at least Sunak is doing his bit for Russia :).”
Posted by: Deeplurker | Sep 21 2023 5:30 utc | 80
I don’t get that comment. Every western politician (US puppet) without question supports political and economic “action” supposedly against global warming. Global warming will clearly benefit the Russian economy and other countries in far northern latitudes. The faster it warms the better!

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 21 2023 5:50 utc | 164

@Deeplurker 77:
The Anandpur Sahib Resolution was in 1973, so all it did was whet their appetite.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Sep 21 2023 5:50 utc | 165

@Deeplurker 77:
The Anandpur Sahib Resolution was in 1973, so all it did was whet their appetite.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Sep 21 2023 5:50 utc | 166

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 21 2023 5:50 utc | 82
Gotta go now, but Sunak going off script, as detailed in this latest emission from Grandpa Al:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/21/al-gore-rishi-sunak-climate-crisis

Posted by: Deeplurker | Sep 21 2023 5:54 utc | 167

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 21 2023 5:50 utc | 82
Gotta go now, but Sunak going off script, as detailed in this latest emission from Grandpa Al:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/21/al-gore-rishi-sunak-climate-crisis

Posted by: Deeplurker | Sep 21 2023 5:54 utc | 168

Wondrous 45
Thanks for your reply. That’s great that Australian electricians are thriving on solar work. Here in England the Energy companies put us on a higher tariff if we want to export our PV power to the grid. Why would fossil billionaires listen to us green insects?
Sunak has no power to increase our electricity output in order to support EVs because the engineers are too unionised to change their ways and the financiers are making a killing from fossil fuels. The Ukrainian war has given us Inflation on top of that so nobody can afford to change technologies at the moment in Europe.
All I was saying is that China and others are thinking outside the box, and so far as we can see their inverters achieve electrical safety by non-traditional means. The Australian usiness dinosaurs strongly resisted government measures to promote green energy, and they are now extinct. Here in Europe Big Finance and Big Lies run everything, so most people are suspicious of green technology issued by decree from right wing, self-servibg , war mongering idiots in government like BoJo.
Existing solar inverters made in China are using non-traditional electronic technology. If any government chooses to licence that new technology, people will buy it. But in England you install it at your own risk. Government has far more lucrative work to do building fatuous vanity projects like HS2.
The Tories don’t consider us tradesmen sufficiently important to give their attention to. No change here in England , maybe ever.

Posted by: Giyane | Sep 21 2023 6:07 utc | 169

Wondrous 45
Thanks for your reply. That’s great that Australian electricians are thriving on solar work. Here in England the Energy companies put us on a higher tariff if we want to export our PV power to the grid. Why would fossil billionaires listen to us green insects?
Sunak has no power to increase our electricity output in order to support EVs because the engineers are too unionised to change their ways and the financiers are making a killing from fossil fuels. The Ukrainian war has given us Inflation on top of that so nobody can afford to change technologies at the moment in Europe.
All I was saying is that China and others are thinking outside the box, and so far as we can see their inverters achieve electrical safety by non-traditional means. The Australian usiness dinosaurs strongly resisted government measures to promote green energy, and they are now extinct. Here in Europe Big Finance and Big Lies run everything, so most people are suspicious of green technology issued by decree from right wing, self-servibg , war mongering idiots in government like BoJo.
Existing solar inverters made in China are using non-traditional electronic technology. If any government chooses to licence that new technology, people will buy it. But in England you install it at your own risk. Government has far more lucrative work to do building fatuous vanity projects like HS2.
The Tories don’t consider us tradesmen sufficiently important to give their attention to. No change here in England , maybe ever.

Posted by: Giyane | Sep 21 2023 6:07 utc | 170

Posted by: Deeplurker | Sep 21 2023 5:54 utc | 84
Thanks for sharing that news, Deeplurker. Al Gore is a political monster. A major reason good jobs in the resources industries have been offshored.

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 21 2023 6:25 utc | 171

Posted by: Deeplurker | Sep 21 2023 5:54 utc | 84
Thanks for sharing that news, Deeplurker. Al Gore is a political monster. A major reason good jobs in the resources industries have been offshored.

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 21 2023 6:25 utc | 172

I think he’s a genuine good soul. I hope he makes it out ok.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 21 2023 0:41 utc | 54
I do too. That’s what makes all the more disturbing. He’s really no threat to them either, but that’s how the leadership of a collapsing order behaves. Paranoid lunatics!

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 21 2023 6:29 utc | 173

I think he’s a genuine good soul. I hope he makes it out ok.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 21 2023 0:41 utc | 54
I do too. That’s what makes all the more disturbing. He’s really no threat to them either, but that’s how the leadership of a collapsing order behaves. Paranoid lunatics!

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 21 2023 6:29 utc | 174

85
The appalling truth is that the British Conservative Party, who control the privatised electORAL system, still think Empire2, that there are plenty of oil-rich states / stans inside the Russian Federation to add to their portfolio of oil-rich failed states, Somalia, Libya, Syria, Palestine and now Ukraine, for them to easily colonise by playing nuclear poker with Putin.
Australia has made the worst choice ever by allowing USUKIS to use their soil to pursue that evil ambition from the Pacific Ocean. This decision must be immediately reversed because it is propping up the Anglosaxon pillage mentality. Australia is ready to go green with China, Britain isn’t.
It will take a Khinzal or a nuke to bring these neanderthal Tories to their non-existant senses. Sunak is ďrunk on British supremacy, and simply doesn’t understand anything. Sorry mate , you got to power 250 years too late.
The world badly needs the opposite of
Anglosaxon imperialism. Aw, and I was so enjoying it.

Posted by: Giyane | Sep 21 2023 6:36 utc | 175

85
The appalling truth is that the British Conservative Party, who control the privatised electORAL system, still think Empire2, that there are plenty of oil-rich states / stans inside the Russian Federation to add to their portfolio of oil-rich failed states, Somalia, Libya, Syria, Palestine and now Ukraine, for them to easily colonise by playing nuclear poker with Putin.
Australia has made the worst choice ever by allowing USUKIS to use their soil to pursue that evil ambition from the Pacific Ocean. This decision must be immediately reversed because it is propping up the Anglosaxon pillage mentality. Australia is ready to go green with China, Britain isn’t.
It will take a Khinzal or a nuke to bring these neanderthal Tories to their non-existant senses. Sunak is ďrunk on British supremacy, and simply doesn’t understand anything. Sorry mate , you got to power 250 years too late.
The world badly needs the opposite of
Anglosaxon imperialism. Aw, and I was so enjoying it.

Posted by: Giyane | Sep 21 2023 6:36 utc | 176

Posted by: Wondrous | Sep 21 2023 3:14 utc | 68
Well, the Canada-India row is set to run for a while, looks like we’re just in the warmup: in response to the Canadian reduction of consular staff in India for safety reasons, India seems to have completely suspended all visa applications for Canadians — the announcement at the top of the visa processing site says as much:
https://www.blsindia-canada.com/

Posted by: Deeplurker | Sep 21 2023 6:43 utc | 177

Posted by: Wondrous | Sep 21 2023 3:14 utc | 68
Well, the Canada-India row is set to run for a while, looks like we’re just in the warmup: in response to the Canadian reduction of consular staff in India for safety reasons, India seems to have completely suspended all visa applications for Canadians — the announcement at the top of the visa processing site says as much:
https://www.blsindia-canada.com/

Posted by: Deeplurker | Sep 21 2023 6:43 utc | 178

Difference between Artsakh and Crimea: nobody including Armenia ever recognised Artsakh or called Nagorno Karabakh anything but part of Azerbaijan.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Sep 21 2023 6:47 utc | 179

Difference between Artsakh and Crimea: nobody including Armenia ever recognised Artsakh or called Nagorno Karabakh anything but part of Azerbaijan.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Sep 21 2023 6:47 utc | 180

Posted by: Katerina | Sep 21 2023 0:26 utc | 53

Giving Artsakh to Baku would discredit Moscow’s claims of Crimea. At this point, I wouldn’t know if Vladimi Putin is retarded or wants to slowly destroy Russia.

what are you ? retarded or simply dull ?
for example>
….Armenia’s Pashinyan gives up Karabakh…..
https://www.euractiv.com/section/global-europe/news/armenias-pashinyan-gives-up-karabakh-abandons-russia-led-csto/
In a speech the same day, Putin claimed that Russia could do little in Nagorno-Karabakh after Armenia recognized it as Azerbaijan’s sovereign territory earlier this year. Pashinyan confirmed that position in the interview with POLITICO, …
https://www.politico.eu/article/we-cant-rely-russia-protect-us-anymore-nikol-pashinyan-armenia-pm/
Vladimir Putin: Since Armenia has recognised Nagorno-Karabakh as part of Azerbaijan, what is there to discuss? This is the key aspect of the issue. Armenia determined the status of Karabakh itself. That is all there is to it.
http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/72259

Posted by: ghiwen | Sep 21 2023 6:55 utc | 181

Posted by: Katerina | Sep 21 2023 0:26 utc | 53

Giving Artsakh to Baku would discredit Moscow’s claims of Crimea. At this point, I wouldn’t know if Vladimi Putin is retarded or wants to slowly destroy Russia.

what are you ? retarded or simply dull ?
for example>
….Armenia’s Pashinyan gives up Karabakh…..
https://www.euractiv.com/section/global-europe/news/armenias-pashinyan-gives-up-karabakh-abandons-russia-led-csto/
In a speech the same day, Putin claimed that Russia could do little in Nagorno-Karabakh after Armenia recognized it as Azerbaijan’s sovereign territory earlier this year. Pashinyan confirmed that position in the interview with POLITICO, …
https://www.politico.eu/article/we-cant-rely-russia-protect-us-anymore-nikol-pashinyan-armenia-pm/
Vladimir Putin: Since Armenia has recognised Nagorno-Karabakh as part of Azerbaijan, what is there to discuss? This is the key aspect of the issue. Armenia determined the status of Karabakh itself. That is all there is to it.
http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/72259

Posted by: ghiwen | Sep 21 2023 6:55 utc | 182

RE @ karlof1 | Sep 21 2023 2:23 utc | 63 | 71
an excellent speech as is usual for Lavrov, and well done with the text translation – I vote guilty 🙂
Audio translation on video
FM Sergie Lavrov UNSC speech responds to Zelensky’s address and others about Ukraine
time marked from 1:55:30
https://www.youtube.com/live/bl7ZbH_LQ0U?si=2uXTf6PWSUjLEIjD&t=6933

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 21 2023 6:57 utc | 183

RE @ karlof1 | Sep 21 2023 2:23 utc | 63 | 71
an excellent speech as is usual for Lavrov, and well done with the text translation – I vote guilty 🙂
Audio translation on video
FM Sergie Lavrov UNSC speech responds to Zelensky’s address and others about Ukraine
time marked from 1:55:30
https://www.youtube.com/live/bl7ZbH_LQ0U?si=2uXTf6PWSUjLEIjD&t=6933

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 21 2023 6:57 utc | 184

@Deeplurker 89:
Yet another Khalistani was just eliminated in Canadastan, and an Indian mafia group – the Lawrence Bishnoi gang – immediately fell over itself claiming the credit. The Bishnoi gang is well known in India as doing wet work for the government – most if not all of its victims are other gangsters – so draw your own conclusions.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Sep 21 2023 7:12 utc | 185

@Deeplurker 89:
Yet another Khalistani was just eliminated in Canadastan, and an Indian mafia group – the Lawrence Bishnoi gang – immediately fell over itself claiming the credit. The Bishnoi gang is well known in India as doing wet work for the government – most if not all of its victims are other gangsters – so draw your own conclusions.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Sep 21 2023 7:12 utc | 186

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast @ 93
I’ve no idea what’s going on with India and its dissidents, but if it winds up Canada and pisses on Trudeau making him put his nation in the geopolitical crossfire then it’s fine by me. Give it time and add it to the list of hybrid war blowback against the Empire as its front line economic allies commit seppuku. Germany, Scandinavia, Italy, Australia, Japan, Taiwan, Canada. As their economies shrivel and wither the USA’s economy will also, no way around it they are all intertwined. Some sort of clever master plan? Probably just stupidity and an incredible lack of foresight.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 21 2023 8:42 utc | 187

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast @ 93
I’ve no idea what’s going on with India and its dissidents, but if it winds up Canada and pisses on Trudeau making him put his nation in the geopolitical crossfire then it’s fine by me. Give it time and add it to the list of hybrid war blowback against the Empire as its front line economic allies commit seppuku. Germany, Scandinavia, Italy, Australia, Japan, Taiwan, Canada. As their economies shrivel and wither the USA’s economy will also, no way around it they are all intertwined. Some sort of clever master plan? Probably just stupidity and an incredible lack of foresight.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 21 2023 8:42 utc | 188

Re Lavrov’s UNSC speech @ karlof1 | Sep 21 2023 2:23 utc | 63 | 71 and others as well.
I did a little exercise to search for news reports on his speech … using ‘startpage’ and terms: “news Sergei Lavrov speaks at unsc on ukraine sept 20 2023” … you know they ran out of results which actually included “Lavrov” and his speech on the first page, the second page showed unrelated results from 14 days to months ago.
The speed, and effectiveness of how easy this material is being buried, memory holed, is really disgusting besides equally frightening. I only found 4 pages related to my search terms, most focused on Zelensky not facing Lavrov in person and only reported on his speech not Lavrovs. One site needed to login, register, the other 3 were these:
https://efe.com/en/latest-news/2023-09-21/lavrov-defends-right-to-veto-at-un-security-council-and-criticizes-sanctions/
https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Lavrov-at-UN-Security-Council-Meeting-on-Ukraine-20230920-0019.html
https://www.passblue.com/2023/09/20/daily-report-zelensky-blinken-and-lavrov-appear-in-the-security-council-nigeria-and-algeria/
This last one, “passblue” site which reports on UN events, was an article several A4 pages long – only focused on Zelensky and Blinken’s speeches – the only thing they had about Lavrov’s speech (despite his name being in the title/url) was this one sentence:

“When Lavrov had the floor, he accused Zelensky’s peace formula of “encouraging anti-Russian” policies and insisted that despite his country’s invasion, Russia respects and applies all provisions of the UN Charter.”

So, just another nod to Karl (and anyone else who collates such material and publishes for reference over time) because without it next nothing would exist in English websites.
The ref I gave to the video was by PBS in the US (well good for them). I wonder if they will keep it up on YT or if they’ll delete it and/or later only have the zelensky and blinken speech as well.
This is mind-numbing manipulation across the board. I knew that happens of course, it’s just really hits home in this exercise I did. The only thing people in the west know about Putin, Larov and Russia is what the western media chooses to tell you and let you see. And that is almost zero!

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 21 2023 11:24 utc | 189

Re Lavrov’s UNSC speech @ karlof1 | Sep 21 2023 2:23 utc | 63 | 71 and others as well.
I did a little exercise to search for news reports on his speech … using ‘startpage’ and terms: “news Sergei Lavrov speaks at unsc on ukraine sept 20 2023” … you know they ran out of results which actually included “Lavrov” and his speech on the first page, the second page showed unrelated results from 14 days to months ago.
The speed, and effectiveness of how easy this material is being buried, memory holed, is really disgusting besides equally frightening. I only found 4 pages related to my search terms, most focused on Zelensky not facing Lavrov in person and only reported on his speech not Lavrovs. One site needed to login, register, the other 3 were these:
https://efe.com/en/latest-news/2023-09-21/lavrov-defends-right-to-veto-at-un-security-council-and-criticizes-sanctions/
https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Lavrov-at-UN-Security-Council-Meeting-on-Ukraine-20230920-0019.html
https://www.passblue.com/2023/09/20/daily-report-zelensky-blinken-and-lavrov-appear-in-the-security-council-nigeria-and-algeria/
This last one, “passblue” site which reports on UN events, was an article several A4 pages long – only focused on Zelensky and Blinken’s speeches – the only thing they had about Lavrov’s speech (despite his name being in the title/url) was this one sentence:

“When Lavrov had the floor, he accused Zelensky’s peace formula of “encouraging anti-Russian” policies and insisted that despite his country’s invasion, Russia respects and applies all provisions of the UN Charter.”

So, just another nod to Karl (and anyone else who collates such material and publishes for reference over time) because without it next nothing would exist in English websites.
The ref I gave to the video was by PBS in the US (well good for them). I wonder if they will keep it up on YT or if they’ll delete it and/or later only have the zelensky and blinken speech as well.
This is mind-numbing manipulation across the board. I knew that happens of course, it’s just really hits home in this exercise I did. The only thing people in the west know about Putin, Larov and Russia is what the western media chooses to tell you and let you see. And that is almost zero!

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 21 2023 11:24 utc | 190

I’m interested in what the world reaction, if any, is to Zelensky’s UN speech. all i see are laudatory articles in the MSM on an initial search. yeah he wants more money, yeah he wants big bad russia punished by the UN, but my impression is the US’ ability to browbeat nations (other than the usual pack of poodles) into supporting it is waning, not so coincidentally as the proxy war fails in Ukraine.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 21 2023 11:24 utc | 191

I’m interested in what the world reaction, if any, is to Zelensky’s UN speech. all i see are laudatory articles in the MSM on an initial search. yeah he wants more money, yeah he wants big bad russia punished by the UN, but my impression is the US’ ability to browbeat nations (other than the usual pack of poodles) into supporting it is waning, not so coincidentally as the proxy war fails in Ukraine.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 21 2023 11:24 utc | 192

@ Inkan1969
Pashinyan and his crew are pro-Westerners, who give a fig-leaf pretense of “multi-vectoring”. They also didn’t ask for Russuan help via the CSTO in any useful or timely fashion.
The mobs in Yerevan can do whatever they damn well please and blame Russia for everything It won’t unscrew Armenia’s position & doesn’t change the fact *they* weren’t willing to fight for N-K, and were foolish to think Russia would kill off the Azerbaijani forces on their behalf in return for nothing but ingratitude or treachery.
Compare that to the Syrians who proved they *are* worth helping, and crucially can stand on their without needing to be completely propped up.
But of course the anti-RF logic is that the Russians should help their political enemies, against their own interests, at great expense in return for sweet bugger-all.
————
@ Wondrous 68.
The Russian bases in Armenia were more to the latter’s benefit, intended protect them from Turkey.
I also don’t think the north-south corridor is particularly a factor right now, nor is Armenia/Georgia the most useful route. Cultivating Azerbaijan as a transit country is after all a possibility.
As for prestige, there’s no sectarian benefit from helping people who don’t want it (and who belong to a different denomination) and will curse, whine & otherwise be publicly obnoxious to you. Particularly when Russia has it’s own Muslim population and bilateral relationships to think about.
Your right about Pashinyan “clever” maneuvering which will ultimately ruin Armenia, but he was voted into power twice. So at some point you just have to let people suffer the results of their own folly.
After all it’s not like these Soros etc-supported types in Armenia ever really hid their nature & intentions.

Posted by: Urban Fox | Sep 21 2023 11:48 utc | 193

@ Inkan1969
Pashinyan and his crew are pro-Westerners, who give a fig-leaf pretense of “multi-vectoring”. They also didn’t ask for Russuan help via the CSTO in any useful or timely fashion.
The mobs in Yerevan can do whatever they damn well please and blame Russia for everything It won’t unscrew Armenia’s position & doesn’t change the fact *they* weren’t willing to fight for N-K, and were foolish to think Russia would kill off the Azerbaijani forces on their behalf in return for nothing but ingratitude or treachery.
Compare that to the Syrians who proved they *are* worth helping, and crucially can stand on their without needing to be completely propped up.
But of course the anti-RF logic is that the Russians should help their political enemies, against their own interests, at great expense in return for sweet bugger-all.
————
@ Wondrous 68.
The Russian bases in Armenia were more to the latter’s benefit, intended protect them from Turkey.
I also don’t think the north-south corridor is particularly a factor right now, nor is Armenia/Georgia the most useful route. Cultivating Azerbaijan as a transit country is after all a possibility.
As for prestige, there’s no sectarian benefit from helping people who don’t want it (and who belong to a different denomination) and will curse, whine & otherwise be publicly obnoxious to you. Particularly when Russia has it’s own Muslim population and bilateral relationships to think about.
Your right about Pashinyan “clever” maneuvering which will ultimately ruin Armenia, but he was voted into power twice. So at some point you just have to let people suffer the results of their own folly.
After all it’s not like these Soros etc-supported types in Armenia ever really hid their nature & intentions.

Posted by: Urban Fox | Sep 21 2023 11:48 utc | 194

The west destroyed Africa, Eurasia will revive it
Matthew Ehret SEP 19, 2023
https://new.thecradle.co/articles/the-west-destroyed-africa-eurasia-will-revive-it
Extracts:

Africa’s renaissance is already underway through partnerships with Eurasian powers Russia and China, whose significant contributions are already visible in security, economic, and institutional sectors throughout the continent.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 21 2023 12:20 utc | 195

The west destroyed Africa, Eurasia will revive it
Matthew Ehret SEP 19, 2023
https://new.thecradle.co/articles/the-west-destroyed-africa-eurasia-will-revive-it
Extracts:

Africa’s renaissance is already underway through partnerships with Eurasian powers Russia and China, whose significant contributions are already visible in security, economic, and institutional sectors throughout the continent.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 21 2023 12:20 utc | 196

@Wondrous >your term “Neo-Carolingians” and plan to use it or a variation of in future. In my own writing. Well done.
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you are most welcome, thank you. It is since long that the Carolingian-Roman church vs. Byzance-Orthodoxes-Riurikids wars popped in my mind when watching how things evolved since 2000 and the forming of EU. History doesn’t repeat itself but iterates in more or less slight re-implementations preceding transformations. EU = Holy Roman Germanic Empire with the USA Frankenstein.
The tectonic split triggered by Russian Federation last year is reminiscent of the decision by Aleksander Nevski in 1246 to split with Carolingians and Rome, because the nastiness of Teutonics and Scandinavians. It’s quite something that the northern Riurikids opted to stay under Mongol-Tatar yoke under which they could keep their cultural identity than becoming even more slaves by renouncing orthodoxy and getting under germanic brutality.
Nevski and the Tatars together on Lake of Chudes against Teutonic-Livonians yesterday, nowadays Russian Federation with China and some more vs Neo-Carolingians….

Posted by: Timur | Sep 21 2023 12:43 utc | 197

@Wondrous >your term “Neo-Carolingians” and plan to use it or a variation of in future. In my own writing. Well done.
—-
you are most welcome, thank you. It is since long that the Carolingian-Roman church vs. Byzance-Orthodoxes-Riurikids wars popped in my mind when watching how things evolved since 2000 and the forming of EU. History doesn’t repeat itself but iterates in more or less slight re-implementations preceding transformations. EU = Holy Roman Germanic Empire with the USA Frankenstein.
The tectonic split triggered by Russian Federation last year is reminiscent of the decision by Aleksander Nevski in 1246 to split with Carolingians and Rome, because the nastiness of Teutonics and Scandinavians. It’s quite something that the northern Riurikids opted to stay under Mongol-Tatar yoke under which they could keep their cultural identity than becoming even more slaves by renouncing orthodoxy and getting under germanic brutality.
Nevski and the Tatars together on Lake of Chudes against Teutonic-Livonians yesterday, nowadays Russian Federation with China and some more vs Neo-Carolingians….

Posted by: Timur | Sep 21 2023 12:43 utc | 198

Bloody bell what a waste of a few hours watching that load of old cock at the UNSC.
What the ef is a “multilateral, rules based, world order’? That the dancing monkeys at the UNSC keep farting on about?
Does it have any relationship to the actual UN Articles? Which are not about variable ‘Rules’.
Multilateral seems to be the new doublespeak for Unipolar.
The speeches by African and UAE and other speakers in clipped English of the aristo variety, Private Shultz too! Apparently German isn’t allowed ,maybe it sounds a bit .. German.
The conquistadors bastards who for centuries have raped and pillaged south and Central America’s. Who keep their own peoples down and poor while they live it up in America and Europe and the desert glass cities.
The U.K. and French liars who claim only tens of thousand dead in Ukraine- who the f*** do they think they are kidding?
As for that President , from Bulgaria? What a total tosser!
That UN is now a turd castle – a tower of bubble – popping as we watch.
Take away the Russian and Chinese vetoes! They beg. Give it to some strange African representative, educated at Oxbridge who knows the King of England and Netherlands, and some strange excolonial dogs dinner country , India, which should have long ago reverted to its desperate states that the subcontinent always was. Which the departing Imperium screwed up with the lines it drew on the maps.
The same bastards having done the same to the Middle East and Africa last century too.
Enough!
Time to erase these hundred year old lines and return to the borders of Peoples and their languages.
Time to erase the oldest conquistadors and the newer Yankee mongrels and all stops between that laid claim to these far off continents and imposed their languages.
Time to defang their imperial shapeshifter corporations that just keep mutating and are the current colonial forces – going where they like, stealing what they want, holding the UN figleaf captured and trained monkeys infront of their genitals whilst claiming they are the Rules Based Order that makes up the Rules as they go along.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Sep 21 2023 13:22 utc | 199

Bloody bell what a waste of a few hours watching that load of old cock at the UNSC.
What the ef is a “multilateral, rules based, world order’? That the dancing monkeys at the UNSC keep farting on about?
Does it have any relationship to the actual UN Articles? Which are not about variable ‘Rules’.
Multilateral seems to be the new doublespeak for Unipolar.
The speeches by African and UAE and other speakers in clipped English of the aristo variety, Private Shultz too! Apparently German isn’t allowed ,maybe it sounds a bit .. German.
The conquistadors bastards who for centuries have raped and pillaged south and Central America’s. Who keep their own peoples down and poor while they live it up in America and Europe and the desert glass cities.
The U.K. and French liars who claim only tens of thousand dead in Ukraine- who the f*** do they think they are kidding?
As for that President , from Bulgaria? What a total tosser!
That UN is now a turd castle – a tower of bubble – popping as we watch.
Take away the Russian and Chinese vetoes! They beg. Give it to some strange African representative, educated at Oxbridge who knows the King of England and Netherlands, and some strange excolonial dogs dinner country , India, which should have long ago reverted to its desperate states that the subcontinent always was. Which the departing Imperium screwed up with the lines it drew on the maps.
The same bastards having done the same to the Middle East and Africa last century too.
Enough!
Time to erase these hundred year old lines and return to the borders of Peoples and their languages.
Time to erase the oldest conquistadors and the newer Yankee mongrels and all stops between that laid claim to these far off continents and imposed their languages.
Time to defang their imperial shapeshifter corporations that just keep mutating and are the current colonial forces – going where they like, stealing what they want, holding the UN figleaf captured and trained monkeys infront of their genitals whilst claiming they are the Rules Based Order that makes up the Rules as they go along.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Sep 21 2023 13:22 utc | 200