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September 15, 2023
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What an amazing time to be alive. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 15 2023 13:37 utc | 1 What an amazing time to be alive. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 15 2023 13:37 utc | 2 Very important recollection within this news item, “How Putin and Kim Throw Down a Challenge to US Hegemony”. Very important recollection within this news item, “How Putin and Kim Throw Down a Challenge to US Hegemony”. https://edwardslavsquat.substack.com/p/g20-vs-brics-who-is-more-sustainable https://edwardslavsquat.substack.com/p/g20-vs-brics-who-is-more-sustainable Yesterday, Global Times critiqued the speech Blinken delivered at John Hopkins and said he decaled a New Cold War, “Blinken sounds a rallying cry for a ‘new cold war’ that US cannot win”:
There’s no way the Outlaw US Empire and its vassals can contain China or the rest of the Global South. The degree of geoeconomic dependency noted in the final paragraph above is far too much for that Bloc to overcome. The attempts made so far beginning with Trump have illustrated the damage the Empire can inflict on itself in its ill-considered policy toward China and the world. The Outlaw US Empire’s illusion of “primacy” has faded into the mists of time and is irretrievable so matter what it tries. Yesterday, Global Times critiqued the speech Blinken delivered at John Hopkins and said he decaled a New Cold War, “Blinken sounds a rallying cry for a ‘new cold war’ that US cannot win”:
There’s no way the Outlaw US Empire and its vassals can contain China or the rest of the Global South. The degree of geoeconomic dependency noted in the final paragraph above is far too much for that Bloc to overcome. The attempts made so far beginning with Trump have illustrated the damage the Empire can inflict on itself in its ill-considered policy toward China and the world. The Outlaw US Empire’s illusion of “primacy” has faded into the mists of time and is irretrievable so matter what it tries. Death of a planet disputed till the bitter end. Once you wizards have sorted out the ludicrous machinations of the “fake global warming scam” (clearly in the devious interests of our dominant petrochemical overlords), please finish the moronic charade of debates on evolution as well. Posted by: Not Ewe | Sep 15 2023 14:43 utc | 9 Death of a planet disputed till the bitter end. Once you wizards have sorted out the ludicrous machinations of the “fake global warming scam” (clearly in the devious interests of our dominant petrochemical overlords), please finish the moronic charade of debates on evolution as well. Posted by: Not Ewe | Sep 15 2023 14:43 utc | 10 Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 15 2023 14:31 utc | 4 Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 15 2023 14:31 utc | 4 This from Oliver Boyd Barrett’s substack posting today. Earlier I posted a link to and an excerpt from Jonathan Turley’s article on the subject, which seems gradually to be coming to dominate the US political agenda. As well it might. Posted by: bevin | Sep 15 2023 15:09 utc | 13 This from Oliver Boyd Barrett’s substack posting today. Earlier I posted a link to and an excerpt from Jonathan Turley’s article on the subject, which seems gradually to be coming to dominate the US political agenda. As well it might. Posted by: bevin | Sep 15 2023 15:09 utc | 14 some of you here will very much enjoy this… from alex krainer Posted by: james | Sep 15 2023 15:20 utc | 15 some of you here will very much enjoy this… from alex krainer Posted by: james | Sep 15 2023 15:20 utc | 16 @ bevin Posted by: james | Sep 15 2023 15:23 utc | 17 @ bevin Posted by: james | Sep 15 2023 15:23 utc | 18 Posted by: bevin | Sep 15 2023 15:09 utc | 7 Posted by: bevin | Sep 15 2023 15:09 utc | 7 PS With the cognitive blindness demonstration linked above the instruction is to focus on the blinking green dot. Then wait for a little and you will see the surrounding yellow dots, even though you know they are there, occasionally disappearing. It’s a left-right brain visual thing… PS With the cognitive blindness demonstration linked above the instruction is to focus on the blinking green dot. Then wait for a little and you will see the surrounding yellow dots, even though you know they are there, occasionally disappearing. It’s a left-right brain visual thing… But how do you explain both BRICS and the G20 signing off on essentially the same agenda? Posted by: Sid Victor Cattoni | Sep 15 2023 15:50 utc | 23 But how do you explain both BRICS and the G20 signing off on essentially the same agenda? Posted by: Sid Victor Cattoni | Sep 15 2023 15:50 utc | 24 liars and morons. Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 15 2023 16:05 utc | 25 liars and morons. Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 15 2023 16:05 utc | 26 FROM THE BABOON CHRONICLES Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Sep 15 2023 16:28 utc | 27 FROM THE BABOON CHRONICLES Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Sep 15 2023 16:28 utc | 28 @ Sid Victor Cattoni | Sep 15 2023 15:50 utc | 12 Posted by: malenkov | Sep 15 2023 16:34 utc | 29 @ Sid Victor Cattoni | Sep 15 2023 15:50 utc | 12 Posted by: malenkov | Sep 15 2023 16:34 utc | 30 Sergei Surovikin is in Algeria Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 15 2023 16:36 utc | 31 Sergei Surovikin is in Algeria Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 15 2023 16:36 utc | 32 LoveDonbass 1: Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Sep 15 2023 16:48 utc | 33 LoveDonbass 1: Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Sep 15 2023 16:48 utc | 34 @ malenkov | Sep 15 2023 16:34 utc | 15 Posted by: james | Sep 15 2023 16:49 utc | 35 @ malenkov | Sep 15 2023 16:34 utc | 15 Posted by: james | Sep 15 2023 16:49 utc | 36 Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 15 2023 16:36 utc | 16 Posted by: Bemildred | Sep 15 2023 16:49 utc | 37 Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 15 2023 16:36 utc | 16 Posted by: Bemildred | Sep 15 2023 16:49 utc | 38 @Norwegian 16 Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Sep 15 2023 16:56 utc | 39 @Norwegian 16 Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Sep 15 2023 16:56 utc | 40 please finish the moronic charade of debates on evolution as well. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 15 2023 17:01 utc | 41 please finish the moronic charade of debates on evolution as well. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 15 2023 17:01 utc | 42 @Biswapriya Purkayast | Sep 15 2023 16:56 utc | 20
Perhaps he was sick, and therefore was out of action. Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 15 2023 17:07 utc | 43 @Biswapriya Purkayast | Sep 15 2023 16:56 utc | 20
Perhaps he was sick, and therefore was out of action. Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 15 2023 17:07 utc | 44 Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Sep 15 2023 16:48 utc | 17 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 15 2023 17:08 utc | 45 Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Sep 15 2023 16:48 utc | 17 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 15 2023 17:08 utc | 46
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 15 2023 17:12 utc | 47
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 15 2023 17:12 utc | 48 Canadian Marxist Stephen Gowan has recently published two pieces on his blog with will strike numerous folks here as contentious. The second piece in particular. The arguments are more sophisticated than seen from “left” scribes from the USA, but appear to me as working from a predetermined theoretical framework which bypasses the important regional security issues. That is, I don’t believe Russia is involved in “colonizing” Crimea or the eastern regions of Ukraine Posted by: jayc | Sep 15 2023 17:24 utc | 49 Canadian Marxist Stephen Gowan has recently published two pieces on his blog with will strike numerous folks here as contentious. The second piece in particular. The arguments are more sophisticated than seen from “left” scribes from the USA, but appear to me as working from a predetermined theoretical framework which bypasses the important regional security issues. That is, I don’t believe Russia is involved in “colonizing” Crimea or the eastern regions of Ukraine Posted by: jayc | Sep 15 2023 17:24 utc | 50 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 15 2023 17:01 utc | 21 Posted by: horseguards | Sep 15 2023 17:27 utc | 51 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 15 2023 17:01 utc | 21 Posted by: horseguards | Sep 15 2023 17:27 utc | 52 Within two weeks, the French military attaché Emmanuel Pasquier and his staff must leave the territory of Burkina Faso, the country’s Foreign Ministry announced. Such a decision is associated with subversive activities of the French diplomat. In addition, the authorities of the African country decided to close its military mission in Paris. Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 15 2023 17:41 utc | 53 Within two weeks, the French military attaché Emmanuel Pasquier and his staff must leave the territory of Burkina Faso, the country’s Foreign Ministry announced. Such a decision is associated with subversive activities of the French diplomat. In addition, the authorities of the African country decided to close its military mission in Paris. Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 15 2023 17:41 utc | 54 “Improbable” does not equal “Impossible.” Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 15 2023 18:11 utc | 55 “Improbable” does not equal “Impossible.” Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 15 2023 18:11 utc | 56 Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 15 2023 17:41 utc | 27 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 15 2023 18:11 utc | 57 Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 15 2023 17:41 utc | 27 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 15 2023 18:11 utc | 58 Asia Pacific Journal is an invaluable source of authoritative articles on the Asia Pacific and Japan in particular. Posted by: bevin | Sep 15 2023 18:34 utc | 59 Asia Pacific Journal is an invaluable source of authoritative articles on the Asia Pacific and Japan in particular. Posted by: bevin | Sep 15 2023 18:34 utc | 60 https://nitter.net/johnnyjmils Posted by: Ashino | Sep 15 2023 18:45 utc | 61 https://nitter.net/johnnyjmils Posted by: Ashino | Sep 15 2023 18:45 utc | 62 Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 15 2023 14:29 utc | 3 Posted by: Jusses | Sep 15 2023 18:46 utc | 63 Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 15 2023 14:29 utc | 3 Posted by: Jusses | Sep 15 2023 18:46 utc | 64 Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 15 2023 14:31 utc | 4:
One-fourth today my foot! In the 70’s GM/Ford/Chrysler/American Motor…, Boeing, Big Pharmas, etc. etc. dominated the world. You name the items the consumers needed, American brands were top sellers!!! I grew up using Crest tooth paste and other American healthcare products in Hong Kong. The Empire likely did account for 1/3 of global GDP (I mean GDP in the real sense). Today, at least 25% of the officially sanctioned GDP statistics are fluff: healthcare, government regulations, red tapes, useless public works, etc. Real products in the economics senses probably account for less than 10% of global GDP, and a good portion of that is military hardware for NATO, itself, and its captured customers/vassals, destructive outputs rather than constructive. The one productive sector of the Empire, agriculture, is still strong. That, and probably the energy sector, are the only competitive sectors that the Empire process which can still impress global customers. By the way, one big portion of the Empire’s old soft power, pop cultures as in Hollywood/Music/TV/Disney et alia, seemed to have died about 10 years ago and not likely to rise from the ashes anytime soon. Posted by: Oriental Voice | Sep 15 2023 19:01 utc | 65 Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 15 2023 14:31 utc | 4:
One-fourth today my foot! In the 70’s GM/Ford/Chrysler/American Motor…, Boeing, Big Pharmas, etc. etc. dominated the world. You name the items the consumers needed, American brands were top sellers!!! I grew up using Crest tooth paste and other American healthcare products in Hong Kong. The Empire likely did account for 1/3 of global GDP (I mean GDP in the real sense). Today, at least 25% of the officially sanctioned GDP statistics are fluff: healthcare, government regulations, red tapes, useless public works, etc. Real products in the economics senses probably account for less than 10% of global GDP, and a good portion of that is military hardware for NATO, itself, and its captured customers/vassals, destructive outputs rather than constructive. The one productive sector of the Empire, agriculture, is still strong. That, and probably the energy sector, are the only competitive sectors that the Empire process which can still impress global customers. By the way, one big portion of the Empire’s old soft power, pop cultures as in Hollywood/Music/TV/Disney et alia, seemed to have died about 10 years ago and not likely to rise from the ashes anytime soon. Posted by: Oriental Voice | Sep 15 2023 19:01 utc | 66 https://nitter.net/aaronjmate Posted by: Ashino | Sep 15 2023 19:20 utc | 67 https://nitter.net/aaronjmate Posted by: Ashino | Sep 15 2023 19:20 utc | 68 The proposed “survival of the fittest” selection scheme of evolution is apparently unable to explain the rather sudden emerging of novel species, which is generally observed throughout nature, as opposed to a more steady and gradual process. This is just one of the (statistics-related) problems of Darwinian theory. Of even more interest, to me at least, is the complete materialist/naturalist/reductionist/funcionalist approach towards life, an instinctive [pun intended] view on existence that has its historical roots deeply ingrained in western metaphysics, aka the metaphysics of substance. Posted by: persiflo | Sep 15 2023 19:38 utc | 69 The proposed “survival of the fittest” selection scheme of evolution is apparently unable to explain the rather sudden emerging of novel species, which is generally observed throughout nature, as opposed to a more steady and gradual process. This is just one of the (statistics-related) problems of Darwinian theory. Of even more interest, to me at least, is the complete materialist/naturalist/reductionist/funcionalist approach towards life, an instinctive [pun intended] view on existence that has its historical roots deeply ingrained in western metaphysics, aka the metaphysics of substance. Posted by: persiflo | Sep 15 2023 19:38 utc | 70 liars and morons. Posted by: Not Ewe | Sep 15 2023 19:39 utc | 71 liars and morons. Posted by: Not Ewe | Sep 15 2023 19:39 utc | 72 https://new.thecradle.co/articles/in-vladivostok-the-russian-far-east-rises Posted by: Ashino | Sep 15 2023 19:49 utc | 73 https://new.thecradle.co/articles/in-vladivostok-the-russian-far-east-rises Posted by: Ashino | Sep 15 2023 19:49 utc | 74 Time + death = evolution Posted by: Rae | Sep 15 2023 19:52 utc | 75 Time + death = evolution Posted by: Rae | Sep 15 2023 19:52 utc | 76 Thierry Meyssan’s take on recent events in francophone African countries: France’s rejection in French-speaking Africa punishes 12 years of betrayal Posted by: robjira | Sep 15 2023 20:03 utc | 77 Thierry Meyssan’s take on recent events in francophone African countries: France’s rejection in French-speaking Africa punishes 12 years of betrayal Posted by: robjira | Sep 15 2023 20:03 utc | 78 https://www.mintpressnews.com/seymour-hersh-publishes-leaked-memo-undermining-us-narrative-2013-syria-sarin-attack/285697/ Posted by: MD | Sep 15 2023 20:03 utc | 79 https://www.mintpressnews.com/seymour-hersh-publishes-leaked-memo-undermining-us-narrative-2013-syria-sarin-attack/285697/ Posted by: MD | Sep 15 2023 20:03 utc | 80 This editorial is right about the new cold war not winnable by the Empire. It already looked pitiful in Afghanistan, Middle East, Ukraine…. It is going to look worse in the fairly near future. Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 15 2023 20:22 utc | 81 This editorial is right about the new cold war not winnable by the Empire. It already looked pitiful in Afghanistan, Middle East, Ukraine…. It is going to look worse in the fairly near future. Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 15 2023 20:22 utc | 82 https://alethonews.com/2023/09/15/kievs-threats-against-media-are-terrorism-dutch-journalist/ Posted by: MD | Sep 15 2023 20:26 utc | 83 https://alethonews.com/2023/09/15/kievs-threats-against-media-are-terrorism-dutch-journalist/ Posted by: MD | Sep 15 2023 20:26 utc | 84 https://alethonews.com/2023/09/15/china-announces-massive-cross-border-project-with-russia/ Posted by: MD | Sep 15 2023 20:34 utc | 85 https://alethonews.com/2023/09/15/china-announces-massive-cross-border-project-with-russia/ Posted by: MD | Sep 15 2023 20:34 utc | 86 In October of 2011, NATO bombing of Libya culminated in an assassination so historically brutal, it could only have been imagined by UK and USA psychopaths. Muammar Gaddafi had to be liquidated, like Patrice Lumumba before him, for reintroducing genuine pan-African sentiment to the continent. We can’t have that, can we? State department psychopath Hilary Clinton practically had on on-air orgasm over Gaddafi’s mutilation, classically rising to the very pinnacle of neoliberal wit, in jubilantly taking credit: “We came, we saw, he died!” Posted by: Aleph_Null | Sep 15 2023 20:34 utc | 87 In October of 2011, NATO bombing of Libya culminated in an assassination so historically brutal, it could only have been imagined by UK and USA psychopaths. Muammar Gaddafi had to be liquidated, like Patrice Lumumba before him, for reintroducing genuine pan-African sentiment to the continent. We can’t have that, can we? State department psychopath Hilary Clinton practically had on on-air orgasm over Gaddafi’s mutilation, classically rising to the very pinnacle of neoliberal wit, in jubilantly taking credit: “We came, we saw, he died!” Posted by: Aleph_Null | Sep 15 2023 20:34 utc | 88 https://alethonews.com/2023/09/14/on-fact-checkerism-and-the-mythology-of-disinformation/ Posted by: MD | Sep 15 2023 20:49 utc | 89 https://alethonews.com/2023/09/14/on-fact-checkerism-and-the-mythology-of-disinformation/ Posted by: MD | Sep 15 2023 20:49 utc | 90 Posted by: Jusses | Sep 15 2023 18:46 utc | 32 Posted by: Jusses | Sep 15 2023 18:46 utc | 32 @Aleph_Null | Sep 15 2023 20:34 utc | 44
March 28, 2011 – White House
Soon Libya was destroyed and its leader killed. Posted by: Don Bacon | Sep 15 2023 21:35 utc | 93 @Aleph_Null | Sep 15 2023 20:34 utc | 44
March 28, 2011 – White House
Soon Libya was destroyed and its leader killed. Posted by: Don Bacon | Sep 15 2023 21:35 utc | 94 https://newcoldwar.org/g20-last-waltz-in-a-world-torn-apart/ Posted by: MD | Sep 15 2023 21:36 utc | 95 https://newcoldwar.org/g20-last-waltz-in-a-world-torn-apart/ Posted by: MD | Sep 15 2023 21:36 utc | 96 @ 44, 47 Posted by: Don Bacon | Sep 15 2023 21:55 utc | 97 @ 44, 47 Posted by: Don Bacon | Sep 15 2023 21:55 utc | 98 https://dongshengnews.org/en/news-on-china-no-163-en/ Posted by: MD | Sep 15 2023 22:26 utc | 99 https://dongshengnews.org/en/news-on-china-no-163-en/ Posted by: MD | Sep 15 2023 22:26 utc | 100 |
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