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September 8, 2023
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MoA on October 17, 2012:U.S. Minesweeping Failures Make War On Iran Unlikely
I was wrong. The efforts did not succeed.
MoA on October 17, 2012:U.S. Minesweeping Failures Make War On Iran Unlikely
I was wrong. The efforts did not succeed.
Lots of wishes there buddy, few if any grounded in reality though. Chechnya is as stable as it can be. Moldovans just have barely functional country so no appetite for war there. Georgians are currently avoiding any direct confrontation with Russia while not giving up on South Ossetia and Abkhazia. Your take on Belarus is even more deluded. After watching Ukraine burn I think just the hardcore ultranationalist would thunk of turning west. Posted by: Ok Ear | Sep 8 2023 8:59 utc | 3 Lots of wishes there buddy, few if any grounded in reality though. Chechnya is as stable as it can be. Moldovans just have barely functional country so no appetite for war there. Georgians are currently avoiding any direct confrontation with Russia while not giving up on South Ossetia and Abkhazia. Your take on Belarus is even more deluded. After watching Ukraine burn I think just the hardcore ultranationalist would thunk of turning west. Posted by: Ok Ear | Sep 8 2023 8:59 utc | 4 This is too funny not to post. Put on your VR goggles and buckle up!
These virtual frauds need a sprinkling of AI fairydust to really take oof. Posted by: too scents | Sep 8 2023 9:06 utc | 5 This is too funny not to post. Put on your VR goggles and buckle up!
These virtual frauds need a sprinkling of AI fairydust to really take oof. Posted by: too scents | Sep 8 2023 9:06 utc | 6 Maria Vorontsova would seem to continue publishing in scientific journals in USA and Switzerland, instead of Russia. Posted by: Mera | Sep 8 2023 9:09 utc | 7 Maria Vorontsova would seem to continue publishing in scientific journals in USA and Switzerland, instead of Russia. Posted by: Mera | Sep 8 2023 9:09 utc | 8 Even if they miraculously win over Ukraine… they will not get out of their whole with these sanctions Posted by: Nug | Sep 8 2023 9:14 utc | 9 Even if they miraculously win over Ukraine… they will not get out of their whole with these sanctions Posted by: Nug | Sep 8 2023 9:14 utc | 10 Exactly… China services China. Never forget that. China’s financial interest will dry up. A debt is a debt and must be paid. Sanctions will eventually cripple Russia. Repatriation will take decades to settle. Personal debt will rise. An aging nation with a big chunk of the prime breeders will be dead due to war. It just goes on and on! Posted by: Bridgetdidit | Sep 8 2023 9:15 utc | 11 Exactly… China services China. Never forget that. China’s financial interest will dry up. A debt is a debt and must be paid. Sanctions will eventually cripple Russia. Repatriation will take decades to settle. Personal debt will rise. An aging nation with a big chunk of the prime breeders will be dead due to war. It just goes on and on! Posted by: Bridgetdidit | Sep 8 2023 9:15 utc | 12 After reading the comments of this post, I see how large the group of trolls your work is attracting, b. Congratulations. Hope your example is followed by many more german people. Posted by: António Ferrão | Sep 8 2023 9:40 utc | 13 After reading the comments of this post, I see how large the group of trolls your work is attracting, b. Congratulations. Hope your example is followed by many more german people. Posted by: António Ferrão | Sep 8 2023 9:40 utc | 14 Love this site and appreciate the work you have done over so many years b. Posted by: Powda | Sep 8 2023 10:49 utc | 15 Love this site and appreciate the work you have done over so many years b. Posted by: Powda | Sep 8 2023 10:49 utc | 16 If you swap Russia and US, the news goes like this: Posted by: Passerby | Sep 8 2023 11:56 utc | 17 If you swap Russia and US, the news goes like this: Posted by: Passerby | Sep 8 2023 11:56 utc | 18 After India changed its name to ‘Bharat’, I guess the ‘I’ in BRICS now stands for Iran… Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 8 2023 12:08 utc | 19 After India changed its name to ‘Bharat’, I guess the ‘I’ in BRICS now stands for Iran… Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 8 2023 12:08 utc | 20 reply to 15 Posted by: Eighthman | Sep 8 2023 12:10 utc | 21 reply to 15 Posted by: Eighthman | Sep 8 2023 12:10 utc | 22 Posted by: Eighthman | Sep 8 2023 12:10 utc | 20 Posted by: freedomisthejungle | Sep 8 2023 13:02 utc | 23 Posted by: Eighthman | Sep 8 2023 12:10 utc | 20 Posted by: freedomisthejungle | Sep 8 2023 13:02 utc | 24 ‘Manifestation’ is for real. Before I’m giving my argument, let me state that I only learned this recently, after spending two decades with logic and maths, doing philosophy of science. I was not prepared for this, and I struggled to accept the idea, but when I did it, the effect began to show up everywhere in my life. Posted by: persiflo | Sep 8 2023 13:24 utc | 25 ‘Manifestation’ is for real. Before I’m giving my argument, let me state that I only learned this recently, after spending two decades with logic and maths, doing philosophy of science. I was not prepared for this, and I struggled to accept the idea, but when I did it, the effect began to show up everywhere in my life. Posted by: persiflo | Sep 8 2023 13:24 utc | 26
That’s a naked assertion, one I think that is completely unsupported by the evidence. Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Sep 8 2023 13:29 utc | 27
That’s a naked assertion, one I think that is completely unsupported by the evidence. Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Sep 8 2023 13:29 utc | 28 Z and V channel reports Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 8 2023 13:37 utc | 29 Z and V channel reports Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 8 2023 13:37 utc | 30
Ha, well said. And yet there are seemingly endless highly paid fancy people on TV and in the newspapers making circular arguments recontextualizing winning right in the open. Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Sep 8 2023 13:45 utc | 31
Ha, well said. And yet there are seemingly endless highly paid fancy people on TV and in the newspapers making circular arguments recontextualizing winning right in the open. Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Sep 8 2023 13:45 utc | 32 Has anybody here ever posted any comments on Naked Capitalism? I tried to post twice, and the comment never appeared on the site. I don’t know if I am not using their interface correctly, or being shadowbanned by them. The latter would be strange, because the comment was rather benign – just pointing out that wearing masks constantly, while protecting against infection spread, may carry its own risk due to breathing in microplastics for hours every day, day by day. Posted by: Phil R | Sep 8 2023 14:01 utc | 33 Has anybody here ever posted any comments on Naked Capitalism? I tried to post twice, and the comment never appeared on the site. I don’t know if I am not using their interface correctly, or being shadowbanned by them. The latter would be strange, because the comment was rather benign – just pointing out that wearing masks constantly, while protecting against infection spread, may carry its own risk due to breathing in microplastics for hours every day, day by day. Posted by: Phil R | Sep 8 2023 14:01 utc | 34 More in depth WRT Huawei’s Mate 60 … Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 8 2023 14:01 utc | 35 More in depth WRT Huawei’s Mate 60 … Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 8 2023 14:01 utc | 36 If on this page I say something about the flood in Greece being totally outside anything that has ever happened in a 2500 year period of record and maybe we should pay attention — just watch the idiotic tropes that follow. Posted by: Phil R | Sep 8 2023 14:11 utc | 37 If on this page I say something about the flood in Greece being totally outside anything that has ever happened in a 2500 year period of record and maybe we should pay attention — just watch the idiotic tropes that follow. Posted by: Phil R | Sep 8 2023 14:11 utc | 38 This got lost yesterday. It might still be of interest to someone. Posted by: bevin | Sep 8 2023 14:14 utc | 39 This got lost yesterday. It might still be of interest to someone. Posted by: bevin | Sep 8 2023 14:14 utc | 40 Pepe Escobar’s assessment of Huawei’s achievement in producing it’s Mate 60 phone…. Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 8 2023 14:20 utc | 41 Pepe Escobar’s assessment of Huawei’s achievement in producing it’s Mate 60 phone…. Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 8 2023 14:20 utc | 42 Persiflo #24 Posted by: MoaMetal | Sep 8 2023 14:20 utc | 43 Persiflo #24 Posted by: MoaMetal | Sep 8 2023 14:20 utc | 44 Posted by: PlatoIAmNot | Sep 8 2023 12:40 utc | 21 Posted by: PlatoIAmNot | Sep 8 2023 12:40 utc | 21 From Iran Observer twitter feed… Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 8 2023 14:28 utc | 47 From Iran Observer twitter feed… Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 8 2023 14:28 utc | 48 Apple shares fall after China bans iPhone use by government employees. Apple loses $200 billion of market value. Posted by: Passerby | Sep 8 2023 14:30 utc | 49 Apple shares fall after China bans iPhone use by government employees. Apple loses $200 billion of market value. Posted by: Passerby | Sep 8 2023 14:30 utc | 50 Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 8 2023 14:20 utc | 21 Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 8 2023 14:20 utc | 21 Posted by: scorpion | Sep 8 2023 14:36 utc | 26 Posted by: Digital Spartacus | Sep 8 2023 14:44 utc | 53 Posted by: scorpion | Sep 8 2023 14:36 utc | 26 Posted by: Digital Spartacus | Sep 8 2023 14:44 utc | 54 Posted by: persiflo | Sep 8 2023 13:24 utc | 13 Posted by: persiflo | Sep 8 2023 13:24 utc | 13 Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 8 2023 14:20 utc | 21 Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 8 2023 14:51 utc | 57 Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 8 2023 14:20 utc | 21 Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 8 2023 14:51 utc | 58 Posted by: scorpion | Sep 8 2023 14:36 utc | 26 Posted by: too scents | Sep 8 2023 14:52 utc | 59 Posted by: scorpion | Sep 8 2023 14:36 utc | 26 Posted by: too scents | Sep 8 2023 14:52 utc | 60 Posted by: Phil R | Sep 8 2023 14:11 utc | 19 Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 8 2023 15:07 utc | 61 Posted by: Phil R | Sep 8 2023 14:11 utc | 19 Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 8 2023 15:07 utc | 62 Posted by: Digital Spartacus | Sep 8 2023 14:44 utc | 27 Posted by: Digital Spartacus | Sep 8 2023 14:44 utc | 27 @Scorpion #28 Posted by: MoaMetal | Sep 8 2023 15:21 utc | 67 @Scorpion #28 Posted by: MoaMetal | Sep 8 2023 15:21 utc | 68 @ scorpion | Sep 8 2023 15:18 utc | 32 Posted by: too scents | Sep 8 2023 15:27 utc | 69 @ scorpion | Sep 8 2023 15:18 utc | 32 Posted by: too scents | Sep 8 2023 15:27 utc | 70 Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 8 2023 14:51 utc | 29 Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 8 2023 14:51 utc | 29 https://dailycaller.com/2023/09/08/georgia-jury-charges-graham-willis/?pnespid=tKs4BzVJNPoEguiZ9zu7ScvS5AO0WsR7Nu2n2OIx.gdmsxJzdmYsY_9BTcZ.PHA7vWD.UbId Posted by: Eighthman | Sep 8 2023 15:56 utc | 73 https://dailycaller.com/2023/09/08/georgia-jury-charges-graham-willis/?pnespid=tKs4BzVJNPoEguiZ9zu7ScvS5AO0WsR7Nu2n2OIx.gdmsxJzdmYsY_9BTcZ.PHA7vWD.UbId Posted by: Eighthman | Sep 8 2023 15:56 utc | 74 Phil R @ 19 Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 8 2023 16:00 utc | 75 Phil R @ 19 Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 8 2023 16:00 utc | 76 Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 8 2023 14:51 utc | 29 Posted by: Passerby | Sep 8 2023 16:12 utc | 77 Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 8 2023 14:51 utc | 29 Posted by: Passerby | Sep 8 2023 16:12 utc | 78 @too scents | Sep 8 2023 14:52 utc | 30
Open source software exists with licences allowing everyone to see the code and, modify it if they wish as long as they return the modificaton to the community. The most popular site for hosting open source code is https://github.com/ based on the git source control system (git is itself open source). Github was taken over by Microsoft a couple of years ago, promising it to remain true to open source principles (yes, you would be naive to believe that). Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 8 2023 16:13 utc | 79 @too scents | Sep 8 2023 14:52 utc | 30
Open source software exists with licences allowing everyone to see the code and, modify it if they wish as long as they return the modificaton to the community. The most popular site for hosting open source code is https://github.com/ based on the git source control system (git is itself open source). Github was taken over by Microsoft a couple of years ago, promising it to remain true to open source principles (yes, you would be naive to believe that). Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 8 2023 16:13 utc | 80 @Passerby | Sep 8 2023 16:12 utc | 39
It will also raise US hubris to infinity.
This is understandable and a solution to the sanctions war. At least you would think so. But read on:
Yes you got that right. A chinese company is violating US sanctions by trading with another chinese company. Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 8 2023 16:20 utc | 81 @Passerby | Sep 8 2023 16:12 utc | 39
It will also raise US hubris to infinity.
This is understandable and a solution to the sanctions war. At least you would think so. But read on:
Yes you got that right. A chinese company is violating US sanctions by trading with another chinese company. Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 8 2023 16:20 utc | 82 @ Norwegian | Sep 8 2023 16:13 utc | 40 Posted by: too scents | Sep 8 2023 16:24 utc | 83 @ Norwegian | Sep 8 2023 16:13 utc | 40 Posted by: too scents | Sep 8 2023 16:24 utc | 84 Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 8 2023 16:13 utc | 40 Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 8 2023 16:13 utc | 40 Blogs have character. Naked Capitalism is not a place where covid or anything related to it cannot be discussed. MoA is a place where climate is not discussed. And Phil R proves my point. Looks at something entirely unexampled and asserts nothing to see here. Whatever.Back to Ukraine. Posted by: Phil R | Sep 8 2023 16:33 utc | 87 Blogs have character. Naked Capitalism is not a place where covid or anything related to it cannot be discussed. MoA is a place where climate is not discussed. And Phil R proves my point. Looks at something entirely unexampled and asserts nothing to see here. Whatever.Back to Ukraine. Posted by: Phil R | Sep 8 2023 16:33 utc | 88 @too scents | Sep 8 2023 16:24 utc | 42
True, so I am moving. But it makes it harder to collaborate. Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 8 2023 16:34 utc | 89 @too scents | Sep 8 2023 16:24 utc | 42
True, so I am moving. But it makes it harder to collaborate. Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 8 2023 16:34 utc | 90 Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 8 2023 13:37 utc | 15 Posted by: JB | Sep 8 2023 16:38 utc | 91 Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 8 2023 13:37 utc | 15 Posted by: JB | Sep 8 2023 16:38 utc | 92 @scorpion | Sep 8 2023 16:26 utc | 43
The answer is plain and simple: No, these people never stop. They have no reverse gear. And it isn’t a matter of speech to say that, it has to be taken literally because it is the truth.
We installed fiber at home 3 years ago, turns out all my network equipment is now chinese (TP-Link mesh etc.), and it doesn’t worry me one bit, quite the opposite. I have an old Iphone via my employer, much more problematic. Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 8 2023 16:42 utc | 93 @scorpion | Sep 8 2023 16:26 utc | 43
The answer is plain and simple: No, these people never stop. They have no reverse gear. And it isn’t a matter of speech to say that, it has to be taken literally because it is the truth.
We installed fiber at home 3 years ago, turns out all my network equipment is now chinese (TP-Link mesh etc.), and it doesn’t worry me one bit, quite the opposite. I have an old Iphone via my employer, much more problematic. Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 8 2023 16:42 utc | 94 @scorpion | Sep 8 2023 16:26 utc | 43 Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 8 2023 16:45 utc | 95 @scorpion | Sep 8 2023 16:26 utc | 43 Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 8 2023 16:45 utc | 96 I would sure like to have that new Huawei phone. But here in southern California, as long as Google and the NSA are around, but it won’t be happening. Posted by: Morongobill | Sep 8 2023 17:23 utc | 97 I would sure like to have that new Huawei phone. But here in southern California, as long as Google and the NSA are around, but it won’t be happening. Posted by: Morongobill | Sep 8 2023 17:23 utc | 98 Thanks for pointing me at Garrett Birkhoff. His book Aestetic Measure presented me with a great style where every sentence is lucid and interesting. Still, his thesis is, well, outdated: aestetic experience is not a quality of the object alone, because awareness is not a passive process on our part. Kant, on which he refers, and (more consequentiually) Edmund Husserl call this active component – setting the focus of tbe mind’s eye, if you will – synthesis (oder synthetische Apperzeption). It is this “concious act” (Husserl) which lies behind the complexity in Birkkhoff’s model. A mosz interesting example is music, where you can learn to understand and enjoy all musical styles and traditions, and eventually experience the same emotions that original musicians of the style feel. Frederik Thordendal from Sweden, who plays Guitar in metal outfit Meshuggah, is currently being studied by conservatories worldwide because he apparently is about to change our understanding of harmonic (i.e., complexity resolution) forever, while working at a sawmill[!!] as a dayjob. – I just could’t go past this example. I recommend his early solo album. Posted by: persiflo | Sep 8 2023 17:37 utc | 99 Thanks for pointing me at Garrett Birkhoff. His book Aestetic Measure presented me with a great style where every sentence is lucid and interesting. Still, his thesis is, well, outdated: aestetic experience is not a quality of the object alone, because awareness is not a passive process on our part. Kant, on which he refers, and (more consequentiually) Edmund Husserl call this active component – setting the focus of tbe mind’s eye, if you will – synthesis (oder synthetische Apperzeption). It is this “concious act” (Husserl) which lies behind the complexity in Birkkhoff’s model. A mosz interesting example is music, where you can learn to understand and enjoy all musical styles and traditions, and eventually experience the same emotions that original musicians of the style feel. Frederik Thordendal from Sweden, who plays Guitar in metal outfit Meshuggah, is currently being studied by conservatories worldwide because he apparently is about to change our understanding of harmonic (i.e., complexity resolution) forever, while working at a sawmill[!!] as a dayjob. – I just could’t go past this example. I recommend his early solo album. Posted by: persiflo | Sep 8 2023 17:37 utc | 100 |
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