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September 26, 2023
Hersh Reveals U.S. Motive For Destruction Of Nord Stream Pipelines

Seymour Hersh just published a new piece about the bombing of the Nord Stream pipelines.

When the pipelines were blown up on September 27 2022 I had asked:

Whodunnit? – Facts Related to The Sabotage Attack On The Nord Stream Pipelines

I had collected the various known facts around the incident and they in sum suggested that it had been the U.S. of A.

Seymour Hersh put the same question to some of his intelligence contacts. He was given the same answer.

He now reports on further facts and final motives to trigger the incident.

A YEAR OF LYING ABOUT NORD STREAM
The Biden administration has acknowledged neither its responsibility for the pipeline bombing nor the purpose of the sabotage
(archived version)

At the core of Hersh's report is this:

It was no surprise to the agency’s secret planning group when on January 27, 2022, the assured and confident Nuland, then undersecretary of state for political affairs, stridently warned Putin that if he invaded Ukraine, as he clearly was planning to, that “one way or another Nord Stream 2 will not move forward.” The line attracted enormous attention, but the words preceding the threat did not. The official State Department transcript shows that she preceded her threat by saying that with regard to the pipeline: “We continue to have very strong and clear conversations with our German allies.”
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The German leader was considered then—and now—by some members of the CIA team to be fully aware of the secret planning underway to destroy the pipelines.
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What I did not know then, but was told recently, was that after Biden’s extraordinary public threat to blow up Nord Stream 2, with Scholz standing next to him, the CIA planning group was told by the White House that there would be no immediate attack on the two pipelines, but the group should arrange to plant the necessary bombs and be ready to trigger them “on demand”—after the war began. “It was then that we”—the small planning group that was working in Oslo with the Royal Norwegian Navy and special services on the project—“understood that the attack on the pipelines was not a deterrent because as the war went on we never got the command.”

After Biden’s order to trigger the explosives planted on the pipelines, it took only a short flight with a Norwegian fighter and the dropping of an altered off-the-shelf sonar device at the right spot in the Baltic Sea to get it done. By then the CIA group had long disbanded. By then, too, the official told me: “We realized that the destruction of the two Russian pipelines was not related to the Ukrainian war”—Putin was in the process of annexing the four Ukrainian oblasts he wanted—“but was part of a neocon political agenda to keep Scholz and Germany, with winter coming up and the pipelines shut down, from getting cold feet and opening up” the shuttered Nord Stream 2. “The White House fear was that Putin would get Germany under his thumb and then he was going to get Poland.”
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All of this explains why a routine question I posed a month or so after the bombings to someone with many years in the American intelligence community led me to a truth that no one in America or Germany seems to want to pursue. My question was simple: “Who did it?”

The Biden administration blew up the pipelines but the action had little to do with winning or stopping the war in Ukraine. It resulted from fears in the White House that Germany would waver and turn on the flow of Russia gas—and that Germany and then NATO, for economic reasons, would fall under the sway of Russia and its extensive and inexpensive natural resources. And thus followed the ultimate fear: that America would lose its long-standing primacy in Western Europe.

The German Chancellor Olaf Scholz will now have to answer some serious questions …

Added:

This is of course related:

Stephen Stapczynski @SStapczynski – 22:47 UTC · Sep 25, 2023

Europe must rely on LNG from the US for decades, said EU’s top energy official 🇪🇺🤝🇺🇸

🚢 “There will be a need for American energy,” said Jørgensen, energy director-general

⚡️ This is one of the strongest signals that the EU needs US LNG well past 2030

ft.com – Top EU energy official says US gas will be needed for decades

Posted by b on September 26, 2023 at 14:26 UTC | Permalink
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“Hell, Nobody has even gotten around to asking why there no investigation into who did it. No investigation into to an act of terrorism in the same league as 9/11!”
Posted by: Marvin | Sep 26 2023 14:58 utc | 14
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This is the most poignant point made on this string so far in my view. The perpetrators of 9/11 (who ever that is) decided that they had just cause to knock over the Twin Towers and other buildings in the area because? Well, we are not sure. The western narrative says that they just hated US freedom and democracy; it could have been that they were sick and tired of the US controlling and supporting their dictators. Or, it could have been planned and carried out by friends of the Neo-Cons that took control of the White House when Bush and Cheney road in
But, by God, they had their reasons, and they did it. Just as Joe Biden and his little gang of neo-cons had their reasons to destroy the primary energy infrastructure of the people of Germany, and much of Western Europe.
Like the 9/11 terrorist and their backers (whoever they were), the US did not ask for permission from the people of Germany (but apparently only informed a few top-level officials such as Olaf Scholz), who did not inform the German people he represents about a matter that would become life changing for millions of Germans. Neither did he try to explain to the German people after the fact why it was “necessary” to destroy their inexpensive sources of energy. Instead he played dumb and stupid: Like the top levels of the US security agencies did on, and after 9/11. There is much evidence that some people at the highest levels of the Bush / Cheney administration may have had at least some knowledge about the 9/11 event.
The destruction of the Nord Stream PL’s was as much of an act of terrorism as 9/11 was. An estimated 2996 people died because of 9/11, and as far as we know no one died as a result of the NS event (but they could have). Still, what this means is that acts of terrorism are justified if it is considered “necessary” to achieve some kind of goal, like US economic hegemony over other nations.

Posted by: Ed | Sep 26 2023 18:32 utc | 201

“Hell, Nobody has even gotten around to asking why there no investigation into who did it. No investigation into to an act of terrorism in the same league as 9/11!”
Posted by: Marvin | Sep 26 2023 14:58 utc | 14
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This is the most poignant point made on this string so far in my view. The perpetrators of 9/11 (who ever that is) decided that they had just cause to knock over the Twin Towers and other buildings in the area because? Well, we are not sure. The western narrative says that they just hated US freedom and democracy; it could have been that they were sick and tired of the US controlling and supporting their dictators. Or, it could have been planned and carried out by friends of the Neo-Cons that took control of the White House when Bush and Cheney road in
But, by God, they had their reasons, and they did it. Just as Joe Biden and his little gang of neo-cons had their reasons to destroy the primary energy infrastructure of the people of Germany, and much of Western Europe.
Like the 9/11 terrorist and their backers (whoever they were), the US did not ask for permission from the people of Germany (but apparently only informed a few top-level officials such as Olaf Scholz), who did not inform the German people he represents about a matter that would become life changing for millions of Germans. Neither did he try to explain to the German people after the fact why it was “necessary” to destroy their inexpensive sources of energy. Instead he played dumb and stupid: Like the top levels of the US security agencies did on, and after 9/11. There is much evidence that some people at the highest levels of the Bush / Cheney administration may have had at least some knowledge about the 9/11 event.
The destruction of the Nord Stream PL’s was as much of an act of terrorism as 9/11 was. An estimated 2996 people died because of 9/11, and as far as we know no one died as a result of the NS event (but they could have). Still, what this means is that acts of terrorism are justified if it is considered “necessary” to achieve some kind of goal, like US economic hegemony over other nations.

Posted by: Ed | Sep 26 2023 18:32 utc | 202

Hmmm, Sweden and Denmark are (or were?) both running investigations of the destruction of the NS2 pipes. The Governments of both countries are presumably blocking release of evidence which would corroborate Hersch’s reporting, but by now, there would have to be a *lot* of people who know what’s going on (both the evidence and the cover-up). The only way to keep a lid on that – even temporarily – is to disappear some of the people who know too much, “pour encourager les autres”. But whoever does that then has to cover up *that* part of the cover-up, etc, etc. (Any reports of missing investigators yet?)
Beans will be spilled – by Swedes and/or Danes – at some point, and Europe will (belatedly) recognize that its choice to accept domestication under US “husbandry” now leaves it with only bad options. Sorry, Europe…

Posted by: elkern | Sep 26 2023 18:43 utc | 203

Hmmm, Sweden and Denmark are (or were?) both running investigations of the destruction of the NS2 pipes. The Governments of both countries are presumably blocking release of evidence which would corroborate Hersch’s reporting, but by now, there would have to be a *lot* of people who know what’s going on (both the evidence and the cover-up). The only way to keep a lid on that – even temporarily – is to disappear some of the people who know too much, “pour encourager les autres”. But whoever does that then has to cover up *that* part of the cover-up, etc, etc. (Any reports of missing investigators yet?)
Beans will be spilled – by Swedes and/or Danes – at some point, and Europe will (belatedly) recognize that its choice to accept domestication under US “husbandry” now leaves it with only bad options. Sorry, Europe…

Posted by: elkern | Sep 26 2023 18:43 utc | 204

When EUrope buys Russian natural gas, natural gas is bad for climate change. When EUrope buys American natural gas, the EU declares natural gas is green energy.
In the past, the church told people to abstain from eating meat during fast, unless you had the money to buy indulgences.Today, we are told to abstain from burning gossil fuels, unless you have the money to buy carbon credits.

Posted by: Passerby | Sep 26 2023 18:45 utc | 205

When EUrope buys Russian natural gas, natural gas is bad for climate change. When EUrope buys American natural gas, the EU declares natural gas is green energy.
In the past, the church told people to abstain from eating meat during fast, unless you had the money to buy indulgences.Today, we are told to abstain from burning gossil fuels, unless you have the money to buy carbon credits.

Posted by: Passerby | Sep 26 2023 18:45 utc | 206

A totally enslaved media would’ve buried the story about Hunka, or reported only excuses for the tribute. Instead, the Hunka story has been leading headlines, with stories focused on condemnation of the tribute.
Posted by: Inkan1969 | Sep 26 2023 15:13 utc | 17
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Yaroslav Hunka is a SS Nazi, this story lives on only because the Jewish community all around the world are mad as hell by Oh Canada’s kissing ass (alone with Zelensky) od such a high-level Nazi criminal, which apparently has been hiding in Canada for a very long time. I am curious why you did not identify Hunka as the Nazi Hunka whose Unit was responsible for providing guards to German concentration camps.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/yaroslav-hunka-extradition-demanded-by-poland-over-alleged-nazi-past/ar-AA1hhNQG

Posted by: Ed | Sep 26 2023 18:50 utc | 207

A totally enslaved media would’ve buried the story about Hunka, or reported only excuses for the tribute. Instead, the Hunka story has been leading headlines, with stories focused on condemnation of the tribute.
Posted by: Inkan1969 | Sep 26 2023 15:13 utc | 17
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Yaroslav Hunka is a SS Nazi, this story lives on only because the Jewish community all around the world are mad as hell by Oh Canada’s kissing ass (alone with Zelensky) od such a high-level Nazi criminal, which apparently has been hiding in Canada for a very long time. I am curious why you did not identify Hunka as the Nazi Hunka whose Unit was responsible for providing guards to German concentration camps.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/yaroslav-hunka-extradition-demanded-by-poland-over-alleged-nazi-past/ar-AA1hhNQG

Posted by: Ed | Sep 26 2023 18:50 utc | 208

Is Seymour Hersh a “real” journalist? Is Julian Assange a real journalist?
What is journalism in the current mileau? This cannot be answered by the purchased media. It will need to be put on the table and dissected by people who want real information. Kind of like what goes on at MOA on a daily basis.
Who is in jail and who is making residuals on their reporting?
Legitimacy my ass.
Posted by: Ronnie James | Sep 26 2023 17:31 utc | 87
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You will know them by their deeds. If they are pissing off the government by what they write or say about it, then they are journalists; Otherwise, they are only at best just stenographers for the ruling class.

Posted by: Ed | Sep 26 2023 18:56 utc | 209

Is Seymour Hersh a “real” journalist? Is Julian Assange a real journalist?
What is journalism in the current mileau? This cannot be answered by the purchased media. It will need to be put on the table and dissected by people who want real information. Kind of like what goes on at MOA on a daily basis.
Who is in jail and who is making residuals on their reporting?
Legitimacy my ass.
Posted by: Ronnie James | Sep 26 2023 17:31 utc | 87
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You will know them by their deeds. If they are pissing off the government by what they write or say about it, then they are journalists; Otherwise, they are only at best just stenographers for the ruling class.

Posted by: Ed | Sep 26 2023 18:56 utc | 210

The Biden administration blew up the pipelines but the action had little to do with winning or stopping the war in Ukraine. It resulted from fears in the White House that Germany would waver and turn on the flow of Russia gas […]

So it wasn’t done to prevent Russia’s attack but to prevent Germany from getting cold feet with severing its reliable and cheap gas source.
OK, but the pipelines can be repaired in a few months according to Russian engineers and one Swiss engineer that wrote a report. This can be done or paid for by the Germans after they ask nicely can we please have that gas back.
The inner walls were covered with an epoxy resin that blocks corrosion by seawater and the seawater in that area doesn’t have high concentrations of oxygen. Plus I guess displacing seawater and placing a plug would go a long way in preventing the extension of corrosion.
Sure, they can be blown up again but the USA+Norway cannot be blowing up the same pipelines multiple times and Germany just taking it easy. It would be too embarrasing and demoralizing.
So, I reckon, it’s up to the Germans to grow a spine and recover their reliable and cheap gas. Fat chance.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Sep 26 2023 18:58 utc | 211

The Biden administration blew up the pipelines but the action had little to do with winning or stopping the war in Ukraine. It resulted from fears in the White House that Germany would waver and turn on the flow of Russia gas […]

So it wasn’t done to prevent Russia’s attack but to prevent Germany from getting cold feet with severing its reliable and cheap gas source.
OK, but the pipelines can be repaired in a few months according to Russian engineers and one Swiss engineer that wrote a report. This can be done or paid for by the Germans after they ask nicely can we please have that gas back.
The inner walls were covered with an epoxy resin that blocks corrosion by seawater and the seawater in that area doesn’t have high concentrations of oxygen. Plus I guess displacing seawater and placing a plug would go a long way in preventing the extension of corrosion.
Sure, they can be blown up again but the USA+Norway cannot be blowing up the same pipelines multiple times and Germany just taking it easy. It would be too embarrasing and demoralizing.
So, I reckon, it’s up to the Germans to grow a spine and recover their reliable and cheap gas. Fat chance.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Sep 26 2023 18:58 utc | 212

Posted by: Don Firineach Will Europeans ever wake up?
Maybe the answer… here

Posted by: Neocons | Sep 26 2023 19:00 utc | 213

Posted by: Don Firineach Will Europeans ever wake up?
Maybe the answer… here

Posted by: Neocons | Sep 26 2023 19:00 utc | 214

@Posted by: Ed | Sep 26 2023 18:50 utc | 106

Yaroslav Hunka is a SS Nazi, this story lives on only because the Jewish community all around the world are mad as hell by Oh Canada’s kissing ass (alone with Zelensky) od such a high-level Nazi criminal, which apparently has been hiding in Canada for a very long time. I am curious why you did not identify Hunka as the Nazi Hunka whose Unit was responsible for providing guards to German concentration camps.

Exactly, we are seeing this very much in the Canadian press which is attacking the Liberal government in a quite extraordinary way over this. Trudeau trying to hide behind the speaker, not turning up for Parliament the next day and giving a mealy mouthed apology is doing himself no favours with the Canadian Jewish elite.

Posted by: Roger | Sep 26 2023 19:02 utc | 215

@Posted by: Ed | Sep 26 2023 18:50 utc | 106

Yaroslav Hunka is a SS Nazi, this story lives on only because the Jewish community all around the world are mad as hell by Oh Canada’s kissing ass (alone with Zelensky) od such a high-level Nazi criminal, which apparently has been hiding in Canada for a very long time. I am curious why you did not identify Hunka as the Nazi Hunka whose Unit was responsible for providing guards to German concentration camps.

Exactly, we are seeing this very much in the Canadian press which is attacking the Liberal government in a quite extraordinary way over this. Trudeau trying to hide behind the speaker, not turning up for Parliament the next day and giving a mealy mouthed apology is doing himself no favours with the Canadian Jewish elite.

Posted by: Roger | Sep 26 2023 19:02 utc | 216

Blasting NS, has been a plan for US, and probably part of the Ukraine War plan.
Isolating Russia from Europe was a must for US, cheap gas and other natural resources from Russia combined with industrial strength from Germany/Europe was a threat to (supposed) hegemony of US.
Plan included making Europe more dependant from US, and supposedly west allies.
Big US, plan partially misfired when Russia wasn’t isolated from rest of the world as planned, when Saudi showed the middle finger to US, and when Russia increased LNG exporting to Europe cutting part of the LNG business for US.

Posted by: Mario | Sep 26 2023 19:11 utc | 217

Blasting NS, has been a plan for US, and probably part of the Ukraine War plan.
Isolating Russia from Europe was a must for US, cheap gas and other natural resources from Russia combined with industrial strength from Germany/Europe was a threat to (supposed) hegemony of US.
Plan included making Europe more dependant from US, and supposedly west allies.
Big US, plan partially misfired when Russia wasn’t isolated from rest of the world as planned, when Saudi showed the middle finger to US, and when Russia increased LNG exporting to Europe cutting part of the LNG business for US.

Posted by: Mario | Sep 26 2023 19:11 utc | 218

“The question is why Germany allowed that?”
Because they have more loyalty to the empire then their own people? That was a hard one to answer 😉
Why did governments intentionally kill their own populace in 2020? That is the real question.

Posted by: Mr. House | Sep 26 2023 19:12 utc | 219

“The question is why Germany allowed that?”
Because they have more loyalty to the empire then their own people? That was a hard one to answer 😉
Why did governments intentionally kill their own populace in 2020? That is the real question.

Posted by: Mr. House | Sep 26 2023 19:12 utc | 220

We know who did it of course, but the really big question here is one that so far does not have an answer – what was Russia doing? Specifically, what was done to protect this infrastructure that they had invested billions in after it had been explicitly threatened? Is this a massive intelligence failure? If not, why allow it to proceed? I have yet to hear any explanation.

Posted by: Holger Niebisch | Sep 26 2023 19:14 utc | 221

We know who did it of course, but the really big question here is one that so far does not have an answer – what was Russia doing? Specifically, what was done to protect this infrastructure that they had invested billions in after it had been explicitly threatened? Is this a massive intelligence failure? If not, why allow it to proceed? I have yet to hear any explanation.

Posted by: Holger Niebisch | Sep 26 2023 19:14 utc | 222

Did i get everything right here?
First USAs Trumpet damage the Westeuropean business relations with China and after that Biden from USA enter the scene and damage the Westeuropean business with Russia. Now US economy is more stable and EU-countries are more and more unstable?

Posted by: Daniel Bengtsson | Sep 26 2023 19:14 utc | 223

Did i get everything right here?
First USAs Trumpet damage the Westeuropean business relations with China and after that Biden from USA enter the scene and damage the Westeuropean business with Russia. Now US economy is more stable and EU-countries are more and more unstable?

Posted by: Daniel Bengtsson | Sep 26 2023 19:14 utc | 224

@karlof1 #92
plenty of gas in the US “front yard” …
where the US is back to its usual business – n.b. Guyana
Back to Business As Usual: The US Is Once Again Vigorously Stirring the Pot in Its Own “Backyard”
Posted on September 26, 2023 by Nick Corbishley
At the beginning of this year, Admiral Fuller’s successor at the helm of SOUTHCOM, Army Gen. Laura Richardson, gave a speech at the Atlantic Council in which she unveiled a tweaked version of the Monroe Doctrine. The original doctrine held that any intervention in the political affairs of the Americas by European foreign powers was a potentially hostile act against the United States. Now, the US is applying the same doctrine to China and Russia, whom US SOUTHCOM intends to “box out” from the region’s strategic resources.
A Possible Flashpoint
One potential flashpoint could be the small former British colony Guyana, formerly known as British Guyana. Sandwiched between Venezuela to the west, the Atlantic Ocean to the north, Suriname to the east and Brazil to the south and southwest, Guyana is the third-smallest sovereign state by area in mainland South America after Uruguay. It is also one of the least densely populated countries on the planet. Yet it is now being treated to state visits by top US officials like Secretary of State Anthony Blinken and USAID Administrator Samantha Power.
Guess why?
That’s right: it has huge, unexploited oil deposits just off its coastline.
Discovered by a consortium led by Exxon Mobil in 2015, whose partners include China’s CNOOC, the deposits have transformed Guyana into one of the world’s biggest offshore oil producers. The country has already seen its economy soar thanks to the discovery, which has so far led to the production of nearly 400,000 barrels of oil a day by the Exxon-led consortium. According to U.S. Geological Survey estimates, Guyana’s coastal area has roughly 13.6 billion barrels of oil reserves and 32 trillion cubic feet of gas reserves just waiting to be drilled.
For a country with a population of just 805,000 and a GDP of slightly less than $10 billion, it is a huge bonanza. But there’s just one problem: a vast chunk of its territory, called El Esequibo, has also been claimed by Venezuela for the past 200 years, ever since Venezuela gained independence from Spain. That is where most of the oil lies and the Maduro government says it belongs to Venezuela, which already boasts the world’s largest oil reserves (an estimated 304 billion barrels). And on this matter, it has the overwhelming support of the opposition parties.
Tensions between the two countries recently came to a boil after Guyana’s government announced it was opening bids for 14 additional offshore blocks, even as the International Court of Justice weighs up each country’s claims to the territory. The bidders included Exxon and its partners, a consortium led by French-owned Total Energies as well companies and groups based in the US, Ghana, Saudi Arabia, Guyana and London.
Venezuela was livid, arguing that the offshore blocks awarded are in disputed areas. The country’s National Assembly accused Guyana of “behaving like a franchise of the North American oil transnational Exxon Mobil, whose interests are, essentially, the appropriation of the existing oil in this territory, which is still pending resolution of the controversy, putting peace in the region at risk.”
The war of words is escalating. In his speech to the UN General Assembly in New York this past weekend, Venezuela’s Foreign Minister Yvan Gil said (emphasis my own):
“Two days ago, Venezuela’s National Assembly unanimously decided to call our people to vote in a consultative referendum to ratify the defense of our sovereign territory against the aggressions of the American empire, which wants to lead us to a war for natural resources.”
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2023/09/the-us-empire-strikes-back-in-latin-america.html

Posted by: Don Firineach | Sep 26 2023 19:18 utc | 225

@karlof1 #92
plenty of gas in the US “front yard” …
where the US is back to its usual business – n.b. Guyana
Back to Business As Usual: The US Is Once Again Vigorously Stirring the Pot in Its Own “Backyard”
Posted on September 26, 2023 by Nick Corbishley
At the beginning of this year, Admiral Fuller’s successor at the helm of SOUTHCOM, Army Gen. Laura Richardson, gave a speech at the Atlantic Council in which she unveiled a tweaked version of the Monroe Doctrine. The original doctrine held that any intervention in the political affairs of the Americas by European foreign powers was a potentially hostile act against the United States. Now, the US is applying the same doctrine to China and Russia, whom US SOUTHCOM intends to “box out” from the region’s strategic resources.
A Possible Flashpoint
One potential flashpoint could be the small former British colony Guyana, formerly known as British Guyana. Sandwiched between Venezuela to the west, the Atlantic Ocean to the north, Suriname to the east and Brazil to the south and southwest, Guyana is the third-smallest sovereign state by area in mainland South America after Uruguay. It is also one of the least densely populated countries on the planet. Yet it is now being treated to state visits by top US officials like Secretary of State Anthony Blinken and USAID Administrator Samantha Power.
Guess why?
That’s right: it has huge, unexploited oil deposits just off its coastline.
Discovered by a consortium led by Exxon Mobil in 2015, whose partners include China’s CNOOC, the deposits have transformed Guyana into one of the world’s biggest offshore oil producers. The country has already seen its economy soar thanks to the discovery, which has so far led to the production of nearly 400,000 barrels of oil a day by the Exxon-led consortium. According to U.S. Geological Survey estimates, Guyana’s coastal area has roughly 13.6 billion barrels of oil reserves and 32 trillion cubic feet of gas reserves just waiting to be drilled.
For a country with a population of just 805,000 and a GDP of slightly less than $10 billion, it is a huge bonanza. But there’s just one problem: a vast chunk of its territory, called El Esequibo, has also been claimed by Venezuela for the past 200 years, ever since Venezuela gained independence from Spain. That is where most of the oil lies and the Maduro government says it belongs to Venezuela, which already boasts the world’s largest oil reserves (an estimated 304 billion barrels). And on this matter, it has the overwhelming support of the opposition parties.
Tensions between the two countries recently came to a boil after Guyana’s government announced it was opening bids for 14 additional offshore blocks, even as the International Court of Justice weighs up each country’s claims to the territory. The bidders included Exxon and its partners, a consortium led by French-owned Total Energies as well companies and groups based in the US, Ghana, Saudi Arabia, Guyana and London.
Venezuela was livid, arguing that the offshore blocks awarded are in disputed areas. The country’s National Assembly accused Guyana of “behaving like a franchise of the North American oil transnational Exxon Mobil, whose interests are, essentially, the appropriation of the existing oil in this territory, which is still pending resolution of the controversy, putting peace in the region at risk.”
The war of words is escalating. In his speech to the UN General Assembly in New York this past weekend, Venezuela’s Foreign Minister Yvan Gil said (emphasis my own):
“Two days ago, Venezuela’s National Assembly unanimously decided to call our people to vote in a consultative referendum to ratify the defense of our sovereign territory against the aggressions of the American empire, which wants to lead us to a war for natural resources.”
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2023/09/the-us-empire-strikes-back-in-latin-america.html

Posted by: Don Firineach | Sep 26 2023 19:18 utc | 226

O/T perhaps. Some time ago, the Saker hosted a whole series of articles by a German academic living in China about how stupid the Germans (academics, politicians and the general population) were and the reasons.
He followed up with the great social and physiological experiment in conditioning the Japanese population. Pity, I can’t find these now to link here.
Both are US vassal (colonies) states. It’s harrowing and scary stuff.

Posted by: Suresh | Sep 26 2023 19:18 utc | 227

O/T perhaps. Some time ago, the Saker hosted a whole series of articles by a German academic living in China about how stupid the Germans (academics, politicians and the general population) were and the reasons.
He followed up with the great social and physiological experiment in conditioning the Japanese population. Pity, I can’t find these now to link here.
Both are US vassal (colonies) states. It’s harrowing and scary stuff.

Posted by: Suresh | Sep 26 2023 19:18 utc | 228

@Neocons | Sep 26 2023 19:00 utc | 110
“That smells great” said the Europeans as the US fried and ate its brains and its balls in the Brave New Brave New World Order where the Big Egg eats its Chicken-shit cowardly Mother!
Great response to my question … (-;

Posted by: Don Firineach | Sep 26 2023 19:29 utc | 229

@Neocons | Sep 26 2023 19:00 utc | 110
“That smells great” said the Europeans as the US fried and ate its brains and its balls in the Brave New Brave New World Order where the Big Egg eats its Chicken-shit cowardly Mother!
Great response to my question … (-;

Posted by: Don Firineach | Sep 26 2023 19:29 utc | 230

Ed@106
Hunka was not a very high level criminal, just a young fascist doing what they enjoy doing, which is following orders from their ‘superiors.’
Is is those superiors who are high level criminals.
As to the importance of Jewish organisations denouncing the House of Commons, I’m not so sure. Forward did and fairly quickly. But the ADL still had not this morning. I wonder whether the Israeli government has said anything?
I find it difficult to believe that a scene such as that we saw in the Gallery was not thoroughly planned in advance. And in Canada this would mean ‘cleared’ with Likud beforehand.
This occasion is not one that we should allow the Anti-Semites, who believe the Jews are behind everything from sunrise to 911, to muddy the issue: Parliament is not apologising because it is afraid of Jewish political lobbies (which are always available for hire) but because, around the world the clear meaning of the Hunka tribute was both evident and offensive.
The next time that Canada refuses to vote in favour of the annual Anti-Nazi resolution at the UN nobody will be in any doubt as to why.
The truth, which is slowly emerging now for the first time in the mainstream media, is that Canada does not just have a bad record on the Nazi question -it has the worst of any country in the war.
And it began in 1940 when Mackenzie King sponsored fascist Ukrainians to take on the Ukrainians who had been the strongest supporters of socialism in Canada. The real history, including the role these fascists, like Hunka, played in strike breaking, red-baiting and other anti-communist activities, as the price of the privileges they were given, has yet to be seen.
Aidan Jonah makes a start here:
https://www.thecanadafiles.com/articles/the-house-of-anti-communists-and-the-nazi-monster-it-spawned

Posted by: bevin | Sep 26 2023 19:36 utc | 231

Ed@106
Hunka was not a very high level criminal, just a young fascist doing what they enjoy doing, which is following orders from their ‘superiors.’
Is is those superiors who are high level criminals.
As to the importance of Jewish organisations denouncing the House of Commons, I’m not so sure. Forward did and fairly quickly. But the ADL still had not this morning. I wonder whether the Israeli government has said anything?
I find it difficult to believe that a scene such as that we saw in the Gallery was not thoroughly planned in advance. And in Canada this would mean ‘cleared’ with Likud beforehand.
This occasion is not one that we should allow the Anti-Semites, who believe the Jews are behind everything from sunrise to 911, to muddy the issue: Parliament is not apologising because it is afraid of Jewish political lobbies (which are always available for hire) but because, around the world the clear meaning of the Hunka tribute was both evident and offensive.
The next time that Canada refuses to vote in favour of the annual Anti-Nazi resolution at the UN nobody will be in any doubt as to why.
The truth, which is slowly emerging now for the first time in the mainstream media, is that Canada does not just have a bad record on the Nazi question -it has the worst of any country in the war.
And it began in 1940 when Mackenzie King sponsored fascist Ukrainians to take on the Ukrainians who had been the strongest supporters of socialism in Canada. The real history, including the role these fascists, like Hunka, played in strike breaking, red-baiting and other anti-communist activities, as the price of the privileges they were given, has yet to be seen.
Aidan Jonah makes a start here:
https://www.thecanadafiles.com/articles/the-house-of-anti-communists-and-the-nazi-monster-it-spawned

Posted by: bevin | Sep 26 2023 19:36 utc | 232

Stop kidding yourself.
Olaf Scholz will not have to answer anything. The German press and political establishment are all thoroughly neutered.
Even when you can get a German to admit that, yes, the United States blew up the pipelines and that this was an unprovoked act of war on the part of the United States, the German response is to stare at their shoes and mumble something about how they are bad slaves who deserve their beatings.
The alternative, actually standing up for themselves and standing up to Master, is just too scary for Europeans to contemplate.
Europeans like being slaves.

Posted by: Feral Finster | Sep 26 2023 19:37 utc | 233

Stop kidding yourself.
Olaf Scholz will not have to answer anything. The German press and political establishment are all thoroughly neutered.
Even when you can get a German to admit that, yes, the United States blew up the pipelines and that this was an unprovoked act of war on the part of the United States, the German response is to stare at their shoes and mumble something about how they are bad slaves who deserve their beatings.
The alternative, actually standing up for themselves and standing up to Master, is just too scary for Europeans to contemplate.
Europeans like being slaves.

Posted by: Feral Finster | Sep 26 2023 19:37 utc | 234

The pipeline was blown up right after Germany had protests calling for it to be opened. Combine that with the Biden and Nuland threats and you don’t need the CIA to know why it was blown up.
People strongly object to Europe being called USA vassal states. But this episode shows nothing but European subservience. The two unexploded bombs are supposed to be in American hands, not European. The origin of those bombs should have been front page news within a month of the explosion. I can’t find it now, but Sweden, after canceling a joint investigation with Germany and Denmark, announced that they would not be releasing their findings.

Posted by: Simon | Sep 26 2023 19:39 utc | 235

The pipeline was blown up right after Germany had protests calling for it to be opened. Combine that with the Biden and Nuland threats and you don’t need the CIA to know why it was blown up.
People strongly object to Europe being called USA vassal states. But this episode shows nothing but European subservience. The two unexploded bombs are supposed to be in American hands, not European. The origin of those bombs should have been front page news within a month of the explosion. I can’t find it now, but Sweden, after canceling a joint investigation with Germany and Denmark, announced that they would not be releasing their findings.

Posted by: Simon | Sep 26 2023 19:39 utc | 236

No more choice for Germany. Blow up your own political “Elite” by voting AfD in.
“Even Without Spell on it.
Just as NS2.
Blowin’ it in the wind
****
If the project to blow NS2 was presented so early to the Biden team, do you really think that the general project doesn’t date from well before his “election”?
Posted by: La Bastille | Sep 26 2023 18:25 utc | 100″
Don’t kid yourself. AfD will soon be banned, on any pretext available. Nobody in the goodthink set will utter so much as a peep of protest.
And if the Europoliticians have to preside over a wholesale massacre of their own citizens in order to maintain the status qu, then they will do that without a moment’s hesitation.

Posted by: Feral Finster | Sep 26 2023 19:39 utc | 237

No more choice for Germany. Blow up your own political “Elite” by voting AfD in.
“Even Without Spell on it.
Just as NS2.
Blowin’ it in the wind
****
If the project to blow NS2 was presented so early to the Biden team, do you really think that the general project doesn’t date from well before his “election”?
Posted by: La Bastille | Sep 26 2023 18:25 utc | 100″
Don’t kid yourself. AfD will soon be banned, on any pretext available. Nobody in the goodthink set will utter so much as a peep of protest.
And if the Europoliticians have to preside over a wholesale massacre of their own citizens in order to maintain the status qu, then they will do that without a moment’s hesitation.

Posted by: Feral Finster | Sep 26 2023 19:39 utc | 238

Posted by: Nobody | Sep 26 2023 17:58 utc | 93
They don’t even support protectionism.
Worse than Le Pen and Trump.

Posted by: Colin | Sep 26 2023 19:40 utc | 239

Posted by: Nobody | Sep 26 2023 17:58 utc | 93
They don’t even support protectionism.
Worse than Le Pen and Trump.

Posted by: Colin | Sep 26 2023 19:40 utc | 240

@ Bevin @ 5 “He will, indeed. But he won’t be alone: there are signs throughout NATO that things are falling apart. The Polish government is calling for the prosecution of the 98 year old SS volunteer whose boots were licked by Trudeau et al. And that is just the beginning- NATO is realising that it is allied not with Ukraine but with the Bandera OUN, who are neither strong nor reliable, and are founded on an ideology which preaches hatred of all foreigners.”
At least as of this AM, the Polish Ambassador in Canada “[wouldn’t] say what the SS Galicia Division was doing because “we don’t want to feed ‘Russian trolls’ and that the main thing is that now “the ‘free world’ supports Ukraine.”

Posted by: Feral Finster | Sep 26 2023 19:44 utc | 241

@ Bevin @ 5 “He will, indeed. But he won’t be alone: there are signs throughout NATO that things are falling apart. The Polish government is calling for the prosecution of the 98 year old SS volunteer whose boots were licked by Trudeau et al. And that is just the beginning- NATO is realising that it is allied not with Ukraine but with the Bandera OUN, who are neither strong nor reliable, and are founded on an ideology which preaches hatred of all foreigners.”
At least as of this AM, the Polish Ambassador in Canada “[wouldn’t] say what the SS Galicia Division was doing because “we don’t want to feed ‘Russian trolls’ and that the main thing is that now “the ‘free world’ supports Ukraine.”

Posted by: Feral Finster | Sep 26 2023 19:44 utc | 242

OT- Today is Stephan Petrov, a Russian, who saved the world exactly 30 years ago today

Posted by: canuck | Sep 26 2023 19:46 utc | 243

OT- Today is Stephan Petrov, a Russian, who saved the world exactly 30 years ago today

Posted by: canuck | Sep 26 2023 19:46 utc | 244

I’m seeing very little that is new, even without evidence, in the Hersh story. He opines about the timing, but that was already clearly known, not news. And then, there’s definitely no new evidence. Doesn’t mean, Hersh wasn’t right. But it does mean, this adds almost nothing. The “Germany got some splainin’ to do is not new, for instance. Got hashed to death with the earlier article.
Also, a P-3 is not a “fighter”. (Difference between last/this article.) And fighters don’t (normally) drop sonobuoys. It’s a minor kvetch, sure. But it shows the strong tendency of Hersch to not be very careful, precise. Makes me wonder how well he checked if his primary source was speculating or reporting knowledge.

Posted by: SSN sailor | Sep 26 2023 19:50 utc | 245

I’m seeing very little that is new, even without evidence, in the Hersh story. He opines about the timing, but that was already clearly known, not news. And then, there’s definitely no new evidence. Doesn’t mean, Hersh wasn’t right. But it does mean, this adds almost nothing. The “Germany got some splainin’ to do is not new, for instance. Got hashed to death with the earlier article.
Also, a P-3 is not a “fighter”. (Difference between last/this article.) And fighters don’t (normally) drop sonobuoys. It’s a minor kvetch, sure. But it shows the strong tendency of Hersch to not be very careful, precise. Makes me wonder how well he checked if his primary source was speculating or reporting knowledge.

Posted by: SSN sailor | Sep 26 2023 19:50 utc | 246

Intriguing side note: Eckart Cordes, former CEO (or so) of Daimler Benz and a top business man well known to the public, at least twenty years ago, has demanded the repair of Nordstream: (paywall after a few lines)
https://www.msn.com/de-de/finanzen/top-stories/eckhard-cordes-wir-k%C3%B6nnten-nord-stream-reparieren/ar-AA1h8Kez
I’ve always thought that the energy partnership between Germany and Russia is a geopolitical imperative due to its obvious economic advantages for both and that the current development can’t stop this kind of magnetic attraction for long… an evolutional consequence.

Posted by: mk | Sep 26 2023 19:51 utc | 247

Intriguing side note: Eckart Cordes, former CEO (or so) of Daimler Benz and a top business man well known to the public, at least twenty years ago, has demanded the repair of Nordstream: (paywall after a few lines)
https://www.msn.com/de-de/finanzen/top-stories/eckhard-cordes-wir-k%C3%B6nnten-nord-stream-reparieren/ar-AA1h8Kez
I’ve always thought that the energy partnership between Germany and Russia is a geopolitical imperative due to its obvious economic advantages for both and that the current development can’t stop this kind of magnetic attraction for long… an evolutional consequence.

Posted by: mk | Sep 26 2023 19:51 utc | 248

Seymour Hersh just delivered another nothing burger. Thanks Sy.
Seriously there is nothing new, profound or surprising in anything he has just written, again.
Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 26 2023 15:37 utc | 29
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The issue needs to be brought up every so often. People in the US and Europe have short memories. So why do you have a proplem with it? What skin is it off of your nose if he reminds the world exactly what happened, no one ealse is doing a serious investigation, the western media are only looking for counter-narratives (i.e. lies) to deflect Sy’s truths.
Perhaps Lavrov’s Dog should bite you in the ass for being so narrow minded. LoL

Posted by: Ed | Sep 26 2023 19:55 utc | 249

Seymour Hersh just delivered another nothing burger. Thanks Sy.
Seriously there is nothing new, profound or surprising in anything he has just written, again.
Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 26 2023 15:37 utc | 29
————————————————————–
The issue needs to be brought up every so often. People in the US and Europe have short memories. So why do you have a proplem with it? What skin is it off of your nose if he reminds the world exactly what happened, no one ealse is doing a serious investigation, the western media are only looking for counter-narratives (i.e. lies) to deflect Sy’s truths.
Perhaps Lavrov’s Dog should bite you in the ass for being so narrow minded. LoL

Posted by: Ed | Sep 26 2023 19:55 utc | 250

To the commenters saying there is nothing new here, this is not true. The assertions that the bombs were planned and planted PRIOR TO the SMO and that at some level German officials knew it was being planned, is definitely new. It would not surprise me at all that the war was started expressly for the purpose of blowing up the pipelines. It’s probably the same German officials that understand they will never get their gold back from London and that their phones and Internet are tapped by us even at the highest levels of their government.

Posted by: Promptcritical | Sep 26 2023 19:56 utc | 251

To the commenters saying there is nothing new here, this is not true. The assertions that the bombs were planned and planted PRIOR TO the SMO and that at some level German officials knew it was being planned, is definitely new. It would not surprise me at all that the war was started expressly for the purpose of blowing up the pipelines. It’s probably the same German officials that understand they will never get their gold back from London and that their phones and Internet are tapped by us even at the highest levels of their government.

Posted by: Promptcritical | Sep 26 2023 19:56 utc | 252

Posted by: john brewster | Sep 26 2023 15:55 utc | 42
I meant “Nowadays [Hersh] reports [the news report equivalents of] vitamin C diets…”

Posted by: Inkan1969 | Sep 26 2023 19:59 utc | 253

Posted by: john brewster | Sep 26 2023 15:55 utc | 42
I meant “Nowadays [Hersh] reports [the news report equivalents of] vitamin C diets…”

Posted by: Inkan1969 | Sep 26 2023 19:59 utc | 254

@post 93 aka Nobody
As a quick introduction for those who do not know yet. The AfD stands for laissez faire neoliberalism and far-right populism on steroids. The declared main enemy of the AfD is the statutory minimum wage and social programs of all kinds that hinder capitalists from uninhibited exploitation.
Posted by: Nobody
Thank you! Spot on!
The Afd is as much a Alternative as CDU towards the SPD.
Their national wing consists of some gouls that would have been or were NPD in the old days and are probably equaly on the payrole of the various services. I see them more as the Greenparty. A project to pool certain sentiment of the puplic to neutralize it if it getting actual traction. And as the green party probably run by operatives of german secret services (Joschka Fischer in case of the greens).

Posted by: El Lissitzky | Sep 26 2023 20:04 utc | 255

@post 93 aka Nobody
As a quick introduction for those who do not know yet. The AfD stands for laissez faire neoliberalism and far-right populism on steroids. The declared main enemy of the AfD is the statutory minimum wage and social programs of all kinds that hinder capitalists from uninhibited exploitation.
Posted by: Nobody
Thank you! Spot on!
The Afd is as much a Alternative as CDU towards the SPD.
Their national wing consists of some gouls that would have been or were NPD in the old days and are probably equaly on the payrole of the various services. I see them more as the Greenparty. A project to pool certain sentiment of the puplic to neutralize it if it getting actual traction. And as the green party probably run by operatives of german secret services (Joschka Fischer in case of the greens).

Posted by: El Lissitzky | Sep 26 2023 20:04 utc | 256

Posted by: bevin | Sep 26 2023 19:36 utc | 119
“I find it difficult to believe that a scene such as that we saw in the Gallery was not thoroughly planned in advance. And in Canada this would mean ‘cleared’ with Likud beforehand.”
Good post and I agree.
Imagine if this “recognition ceremony” been executed by the “Iranian Parliament?” The “collective West” would have been “outraged”… Nuttyahoo would have been screaming for a “collective bombing” of Iran.
Where’s Nuttyahoo?? Crickets…
All planned.
Anyone against Russians are our allies… who sometimes “make mistakes”..
The Anglo Triage of Fascism is back and want the world to know it.
And “Sy” with his (not)new information is a “distraction” piece so we forget about the Nazis immediately.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 26 2023 20:10 utc | 257

Posted by: bevin | Sep 26 2023 19:36 utc | 119
“I find it difficult to believe that a scene such as that we saw in the Gallery was not thoroughly planned in advance. And in Canada this would mean ‘cleared’ with Likud beforehand.”
Good post and I agree.
Imagine if this “recognition ceremony” been executed by the “Iranian Parliament?” The “collective West” would have been “outraged”… Nuttyahoo would have been screaming for a “collective bombing” of Iran.
Where’s Nuttyahoo?? Crickets…
All planned.
Anyone against Russians are our allies… who sometimes “make mistakes”..
The Anglo Triage of Fascism is back and want the world to know it.
And “Sy” with his (not)new information is a “distraction” piece so we forget about the Nazis immediately.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 26 2023 20:10 utc | 258

Posted by: annie | Sep 26 2023 17:13 utc | 81
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One of the best things about Trump is that he would say the quiet part out loud and ask the common sense questions that the average citizen has no opportunity to pose.
That said, I am down on democracy, America, and the collapse of bureaucratic institutions, in no particular order.
I’ve heard the anti-NATO talk for some time. I’ve been listening on the fringes of mainstream discourse for over 15 years now. These days, I try to see things through the lens of a non-Westerner. Do we think people in Niger, Kashmir, or Ecuador care much about Biden, NATO or the 2024 US elections? I doubt it. The West is only the center of the universe in their own minds. The rest of the planet is leaving them behind, rapidly.
One day, people in the West will wake up to government insolvency, high(er) crime, and recognize that due to decades of neglect, the infrastructure has become 3rd world. And they will probably foolishly continue to support demagogues and engage in attempts to elect a Messiah to magically rectify the situation, which we already know will involve violence and scapegoating.
My ancestors on both sides emigrated from their home countries over the last 120 years. Everyone should be open to the possibility of moving to higher ground as the sea level rises around them. There is no honor in committing suicide for a flag or ideology.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 26 2023 20:14 utc | 259

Posted by: annie | Sep 26 2023 17:13 utc | 81
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One of the best things about Trump is that he would say the quiet part out loud and ask the common sense questions that the average citizen has no opportunity to pose.
That said, I am down on democracy, America, and the collapse of bureaucratic institutions, in no particular order.
I’ve heard the anti-NATO talk for some time. I’ve been listening on the fringes of mainstream discourse for over 15 years now. These days, I try to see things through the lens of a non-Westerner. Do we think people in Niger, Kashmir, or Ecuador care much about Biden, NATO or the 2024 US elections? I doubt it. The West is only the center of the universe in their own minds. The rest of the planet is leaving them behind, rapidly.
One day, people in the West will wake up to government insolvency, high(er) crime, and recognize that due to decades of neglect, the infrastructure has become 3rd world. And they will probably foolishly continue to support demagogues and engage in attempts to elect a Messiah to magically rectify the situation, which we already know will involve violence and scapegoating.
My ancestors on both sides emigrated from their home countries over the last 120 years. Everyone should be open to the possibility of moving to higher ground as the sea level rises around them. There is no honor in committing suicide for a flag or ideology.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 26 2023 20:14 utc | 260

There is no honor in committing suicide for a flag or ideology.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 26 2023 20:14 utc | 133
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Or a religion. 🙂

Posted by: Nobody | Sep 26 2023 20:21 utc | 261

There is no honor in committing suicide for a flag or ideology.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 26 2023 20:14 utc | 133
—
Or a religion. 🙂

Posted by: Nobody | Sep 26 2023 20:21 utc | 262

When Linus Pauling died, he was in his nineties. Surely a testimonial to his Vitamin C diet.

Posted by: Lysias | Sep 26 2023 20:24 utc | 263

When Linus Pauling died, he was in his nineties. Surely a testimonial to his Vitamin C diet.

Posted by: Lysias | Sep 26 2023 20:24 utc | 264

Posted by: bubbles | Sep 26 2023 15:39 utc | 32
There wasn’t a peep of condemnation until the Jewish Org’s rattled the cage. Then ‘everything’ changed.
That was the condemnation I was referring to. A complacent media would’ve ignored that condemnation, similar to how they ignore the meaning of a red and black flag. But that Org’s rattling made the media pay attention. Now we have headline news of the Speaker resigning because of this.

Posted by: Inkan1969 | Sep 26 2023 20:27 utc | 265

Posted by: bubbles | Sep 26 2023 15:39 utc | 32
There wasn’t a peep of condemnation until the Jewish Org’s rattled the cage. Then ‘everything’ changed.
That was the condemnation I was referring to. A complacent media would’ve ignored that condemnation, similar to how they ignore the meaning of a red and black flag. But that Org’s rattling made the media pay attention. Now we have headline news of the Speaker resigning because of this.

Posted by: Inkan1969 | Sep 26 2023 20:27 utc | 266

There seems to be a general agreement that the German government have no interest in straying from the direct control of Germany by Washington. In fact, blowing up the pipeline had a purpose beyond splitting off Germany from any relationship with Russia–it was a direct in-your-face warning to Germany and Europe that Washington means business and it will do ANYTHING to make sure the EU is under direct rule by Washington. The reality is that it appears that Europeans want the order and “security” provided by the Washington Empire–as I’ve mentioned before, it is the old dream of a reconstitution of the Western Roman Empire.
I’ve noticed over the years that Europeans seem more pro-Washington Empire than people who l,ive in the US. Euro culture has become weak and slavishly minded–and its not just the Euro oligarchs and politicians it is also the general public. It is in stark contrast to the Europe I knew in the 50s, 60s, 70s. Europeans have become fanatically stupid beyond anything I’ve seen in the USA.
Key to the problem of Europe is that the abandonment of Christianity and Marxism has created a crisis in meaning and thus the new “religion” is to be against the “jungle” of the East, i.e., Russia and China. This crusade (echoing the old crusade against the East) provides meaning to life for the aggressively ignorant public of Europe. Fortunately, it can’t last for more a few years.

Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Sep 26 2023 20:29 utc | 267

There seems to be a general agreement that the German government have no interest in straying from the direct control of Germany by Washington. In fact, blowing up the pipeline had a purpose beyond splitting off Germany from any relationship with Russia–it was a direct in-your-face warning to Germany and Europe that Washington means business and it will do ANYTHING to make sure the EU is under direct rule by Washington. The reality is that it appears that Europeans want the order and “security” provided by the Washington Empire–as I’ve mentioned before, it is the old dream of a reconstitution of the Western Roman Empire.
I’ve noticed over the years that Europeans seem more pro-Washington Empire than people who l,ive in the US. Euro culture has become weak and slavishly minded–and its not just the Euro oligarchs and politicians it is also the general public. It is in stark contrast to the Europe I knew in the 50s, 60s, 70s. Europeans have become fanatically stupid beyond anything I’ve seen in the USA.
Key to the problem of Europe is that the abandonment of Christianity and Marxism has created a crisis in meaning and thus the new “religion” is to be against the “jungle” of the East, i.e., Russia and China. This crusade (echoing the old crusade against the East) provides meaning to life for the aggressively ignorant public of Europe. Fortunately, it can’t last for more a few years.

Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Sep 26 2023 20:29 utc | 268

bevin 10
letters for keyboards
$4
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Isn’t Norway providing LNG now to Poland etc…?

Posted by: osi | Sep 26 2023 20:33 utc | 269

bevin 10
letters for keyboards
$4
https://www.amazon.com/English-Non-Transparent-Keyboard-Sticker-Background/dp/B000GE16LW/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?m=A15AAAEGL3KF3S&marketplaceID=ATVPDKIKX0DER&qid=1695759986&s=merchant-items&sr=1-3
Isn’t Norway providing LNG now to Poland etc…?

Posted by: osi | Sep 26 2023 20:33 utc | 270

I remember being puzzled by an episode in the 1990s of the Batchelor/Alexander radio show where they made a big deal of Putin’s Russia jailing some oligarch billionaire. They couldn’t explain why this jailing was so outrageous or why they thought their audience would care. My own thought was that the guy was probably guilty of what he was charged with and that they certainly hadn’t provided reason for why I should care.
They kept having on as a guest Malcolm Hoenlein, the head of some Jewish organization. They treated him so obsequiously that I suspected he or his organization were funding the show.

Posted by: Lysias | Sep 26 2023 20:40 utc | 271

I remember being puzzled by an episode in the 1990s of the Batchelor/Alexander radio show where they made a big deal of Putin’s Russia jailing some oligarch billionaire. They couldn’t explain why this jailing was so outrageous or why they thought their audience would care. My own thought was that the guy was probably guilty of what he was charged with and that they certainly hadn’t provided reason for why I should care.
They kept having on as a guest Malcolm Hoenlein, the head of some Jewish organization. They treated him so obsequiously that I suspected he or his organization were funding the show.

Posted by: Lysias | Sep 26 2023 20:40 utc | 272

When I asked myselfm at the time, “who benefits”, the answer “USA and Biden” seemed obvious. That Norway was involved seemed likely, too, since sales of Norway’s gas replaced Nordstream.
In the longer term, it was stupid, though. If the Germans had any doubt that the US did not do things for Germany’s benefit, this destroyed that doubt. Germany and the Europeans in general should secede from the US empire. And replace fossil fuels, too, while they have the chance.

Posted by: lester | Sep 26 2023 20:43 utc | 273

When I asked myselfm at the time, “who benefits”, the answer “USA and Biden” seemed obvious. That Norway was involved seemed likely, too, since sales of Norway’s gas replaced Nordstream.
In the longer term, it was stupid, though. If the Germans had any doubt that the US did not do things for Germany’s benefit, this destroyed that doubt. Germany and the Europeans in general should secede from the US empire. And replace fossil fuels, too, while they have the chance.

Posted by: lester | Sep 26 2023 20:43 utc | 274

Dear Bernhardt, did you change any setting in your site? I have been following MoA through an aggregator, “My old reader”, notifying me whenever a new article was published. But since two weeks ago, every other site I am following gets the updates, except yours. Were you shadowbanned? Or just changed some settings that the aggregator needed? Note that I tried and unfollow you and then follow you again, but The Old Reader refuses to subscribe to your blog again. Are your in the crosshair?
Luckily, I can still check manually if anything new appeared. But getting notifications was more convenient.

Posted by: Giovanni Dall'Orto | Sep 26 2023 20:46 utc | 275

Dear Bernhardt, did you change any setting in your site? I have been following MoA through an aggregator, “My old reader”, notifying me whenever a new article was published. But since two weeks ago, every other site I am following gets the updates, except yours. Were you shadowbanned? Or just changed some settings that the aggregator needed? Note that I tried and unfollow you and then follow you again, but The Old Reader refuses to subscribe to your blog again. Are your in the crosshair?
Luckily, I can still check manually if anything new appeared. But getting notifications was more convenient.

Posted by: Giovanni Dall'Orto | Sep 26 2023 20:46 utc | 276

” There seems to be a general agreement that the German government have no interest in straying from the direct control of Germany by Washington.
Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Sep 26 2023 20:29 utc | 137 ”
As far as I understand, there is no official government at the moment as Germany is to be ” occupied ” till something like 2070 or so. Germany has no constitution. Here’s a clue.
” The current version of the Basic Law (Grundgesetz) of 23 May 1949 is the constitution of the Federal Republic of Germany. The Basic Law was adopted in 1949, initially as a provisional framework for the basic organization of the state until German reunification. ”
however
” The West German Constitution was approved in Bonn on 8 May 1949 and came into effect on 23 May after having been approved by the occupying western Allies of World War II on 12 May. It was termed “Basic Law” (German: Grundgesetz) to indicate that it was a provisional piece of legislation pending the reunification of Germany. However, when reunification took place in 1990, the Basic Law was retained as the definitive constitution of reunified Germany. Its original field of application (German: Geltungsbereich)—that is, the states that were initially included in the Federal Republic of Germany—consisted of the three Western Allies’ zones of occupation, but at the insistence of the Western Allies, formally excluded West Berlin. In 1990, the Two Plus Four Agreement between the two parts of Germany and all four Allies stipulated the implementation of a number of amendments.
The German word Grundgesetz may be translated as either Basic Law or Fundamental Law. The term “constitution” (Verfassung) was avoided as the drafters regarded the Grundgesetz as an interim arrangement for a provisional West German state, expecting that an eventual reunified Germany would adopt a proper constitution, enacted under the provisions of Article 146 of the Basic Law, which stipulates that such a constitution must be “freely adopted by the German people”. Nevertheless, although the amended Basic Law was approved by all four Allied Powers in 1990 (who thereby relinquished their reserved constitutional rights), it was never submitted to a popular vote, neither in 1949 nor in 1990. However, the Basic Law as passed in 1949 also contained Article 23 which provided for “other parts of Germany” to “join the area of applicability of the Basic Law” which was the provision that was used for German reunification from the constitutional standpoint. As the overwhelming consensus thereafter was that the German question was settled, and to reaffirm the renunciation of any residual German claim to land east of Oder and Neiße, Article 23 was repealed the same day as reunification came into force. An unrelated article on the relationship between Germany and the European Union was instead inserted in its place two years later.
In the preamble to the Basic Law, its adoption was declared as an action of the “German people”, and Article 20 states “All state authority is derived from the people”. These statements embody the constitutional principles that ‘Germany’ is identical with the German people, and that the German people act constitutionally as the primary institution of the German state. Where the Basic Law refers to the territory under the jurisdiction of this German state, it refers to it as the ‘federal territory’, so avoiding any inference of there being a constitutionally defined ‘German national territory’. ”

Posted by: Shocked | Sep 26 2023 20:49 utc | 277

” There seems to be a general agreement that the German government have no interest in straying from the direct control of Germany by Washington.
Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Sep 26 2023 20:29 utc | 137 ”
As far as I understand, there is no official government at the moment as Germany is to be ” occupied ” till something like 2070 or so. Germany has no constitution. Here’s a clue.
” The current version of the Basic Law (Grundgesetz) of 23 May 1949 is the constitution of the Federal Republic of Germany. The Basic Law was adopted in 1949, initially as a provisional framework for the basic organization of the state until German reunification. ”
however
” The West German Constitution was approved in Bonn on 8 May 1949 and came into effect on 23 May after having been approved by the occupying western Allies of World War II on 12 May. It was termed “Basic Law” (German: Grundgesetz) to indicate that it was a provisional piece of legislation pending the reunification of Germany. However, when reunification took place in 1990, the Basic Law was retained as the definitive constitution of reunified Germany. Its original field of application (German: Geltungsbereich)—that is, the states that were initially included in the Federal Republic of Germany—consisted of the three Western Allies’ zones of occupation, but at the insistence of the Western Allies, formally excluded West Berlin. In 1990, the Two Plus Four Agreement between the two parts of Germany and all four Allies stipulated the implementation of a number of amendments.
The German word Grundgesetz may be translated as either Basic Law or Fundamental Law. The term “constitution” (Verfassung) was avoided as the drafters regarded the Grundgesetz as an interim arrangement for a provisional West German state, expecting that an eventual reunified Germany would adopt a proper constitution, enacted under the provisions of Article 146 of the Basic Law, which stipulates that such a constitution must be “freely adopted by the German people”. Nevertheless, although the amended Basic Law was approved by all four Allied Powers in 1990 (who thereby relinquished their reserved constitutional rights), it was never submitted to a popular vote, neither in 1949 nor in 1990. However, the Basic Law as passed in 1949 also contained Article 23 which provided for “other parts of Germany” to “join the area of applicability of the Basic Law” which was the provision that was used for German reunification from the constitutional standpoint. As the overwhelming consensus thereafter was that the German question was settled, and to reaffirm the renunciation of any residual German claim to land east of Oder and Neiße, Article 23 was repealed the same day as reunification came into force. An unrelated article on the relationship between Germany and the European Union was instead inserted in its place two years later.
In the preamble to the Basic Law, its adoption was declared as an action of the “German people”, and Article 20 states “All state authority is derived from the people”. These statements embody the constitutional principles that ‘Germany’ is identical with the German people, and that the German people act constitutionally as the primary institution of the German state. Where the Basic Law refers to the territory under the jurisdiction of this German state, it refers to it as the ‘federal territory’, so avoiding any inference of there being a constitutionally defined ‘German national territory’. ”

Posted by: Shocked | Sep 26 2023 20:49 utc | 278

@ Chris Cosmos | Sep 26 2023 20:29 utc | 137:
Damn straight. Note the abject terror in a European’s eyes when he tries to imagine a world in which he is not subservient to America.

Posted by: Feral Finster | Sep 26 2023 20:53 utc | 279

@ Chris Cosmos | Sep 26 2023 20:29 utc | 137:
Damn straight. Note the abject terror in a European’s eyes when he tries to imagine a world in which he is not subservient to America.

Posted by: Feral Finster | Sep 26 2023 20:53 utc | 280

Abraham Lincoln created the US Military Industrial Complex by converting the 60% of Northern Industry that had been dependent on Southern Cotton to manufacturer weapons for the war. After that war, other countries winning wars depended not an being US allies, but on purchasing US weapons.
The purpose of NATO is to force the members to buy US weapons. The US needed to kickstart it’s economy, so it took control of Ukraine to start a war with Russia. That caused the NATO countries to deplete their US-made weapons and order replacements.
Destroying the pipelines was to ensure that NATO countries didn’t hold close enough economic ties to Russia to cause them to resist the war and harm weapons sales. That is also the purpose of the sanctions.

Posted by: barstool | Sep 26 2023 20:55 utc | 281

Abraham Lincoln created the US Military Industrial Complex by converting the 60% of Northern Industry that had been dependent on Southern Cotton to manufacturer weapons for the war. After that war, other countries winning wars depended not an being US allies, but on purchasing US weapons.
The purpose of NATO is to force the members to buy US weapons. The US needed to kickstart it’s economy, so it took control of Ukraine to start a war with Russia. That caused the NATO countries to deplete their US-made weapons and order replacements.
Destroying the pipelines was to ensure that NATO countries didn’t hold close enough economic ties to Russia to cause them to resist the war and harm weapons sales. That is also the purpose of the sanctions.

Posted by: barstool | Sep 26 2023 20:55 utc | 282

My very first comment!
Is Germany going to be pushed into war with Russia for a third time?
Germany’s economy is being deindustrialized and the general public is fed constant russophobic messages. Looking forward: Will we see economic collapse followed by monetary incentives to join up with appropriate media fanfare and accompanied by the recruitment to the MIT.
It seemd to be shaping into a 1930th replay?

Posted by: German | Sep 26 2023 21:01 utc | 283

My very first comment!
Is Germany going to be pushed into war with Russia for a third time?
Germany’s economy is being deindustrialized and the general public is fed constant russophobic messages. Looking forward: Will we see economic collapse followed by monetary incentives to join up with appropriate media fanfare and accompanied by the recruitment to the MIT.
It seemd to be shaping into a 1930th replay?

Posted by: German | Sep 26 2023 21:01 utc | 284

“…German Chancellor Olaf Scholz will now have to answer some serious questions…”

I’ve been looking forward to that since the Hersh story broke. But, so far, it does not look like this at all. German TV announced a documentation tonight, including “new findings” in the, you guessed it, sailboat narrative. I couldn’t bring myself to watch that BS – enough is enough.
After lying like this to their audience, will the German media ever be able to return to the truth? I’d rather expect them to be caught in a Hamletian type of dynamic – once on a criminal path, you must persevere at any cost, since the alternative would be unbearable humiliation. For the Germans,that means, we will never be told the truth. And a good portion of TV viewers will forever trust their media, because they “can’t be lying all at the same time, we’ve checked several sources”. These are the people that I’m surrounded by and whom I call sheeple, for lack of another expression, like it or not.
What this also means: Reality, “truth”, is today being manufactured – just think of recent attempts to blame Hiroshima and Nagasaki on the Russians, the tearing down of Soviet war memorials in West Ukraine, the standing ovations to a former SS collaborator in Canada’s parliament, and the list goes on.
I hope B is right that the fortress of lies is already crumbling – but don’t expect the Germans to be a driving force in this process.

Posted by: grunzt | Sep 26 2023 21:05 utc | 285

“…German Chancellor Olaf Scholz will now have to answer some serious questions…”

I’ve been looking forward to that since the Hersh story broke. But, so far, it does not look like this at all. German TV announced a documentation tonight, including “new findings” in the, you guessed it, sailboat narrative. I couldn’t bring myself to watch that BS – enough is enough.
After lying like this to their audience, will the German media ever be able to return to the truth? I’d rather expect them to be caught in a Hamletian type of dynamic – once on a criminal path, you must persevere at any cost, since the alternative would be unbearable humiliation. For the Germans,that means, we will never be told the truth. And a good portion of TV viewers will forever trust their media, because they “can’t be lying all at the same time, we’ve checked several sources”. These are the people that I’m surrounded by and whom I call sheeple, for lack of another expression, like it or not.
What this also means: Reality, “truth”, is today being manufactured – just think of recent attempts to blame Hiroshima and Nagasaki on the Russians, the tearing down of Soviet war memorials in West Ukraine, the standing ovations to a former SS collaborator in Canada’s parliament, and the list goes on.
I hope B is right that the fortress of lies is already crumbling – but don’t expect the Germans to be a driving force in this process.

Posted by: grunzt | Sep 26 2023 21:05 utc | 286

” Is Germany going to be pushed into war with Russia for a third time?
Posted by: German | Sep 26 2023 21:01 utc | 146 ”
Hence, the intentional flooding of Germany, Europe, and the US with, military age, male migrants ?

Posted by: Shocked | Sep 26 2023 21:08 utc | 287

” Is Germany going to be pushed into war with Russia for a third time?
Posted by: German | Sep 26 2023 21:01 utc | 146 ”
Hence, the intentional flooding of Germany, Europe, and the US with, military age, male migrants ?

Posted by: Shocked | Sep 26 2023 21:08 utc | 288

barstool | Sep 26 2023 20:55 utc | 145
Weapons are a big part but I think the main task was to take Germany’s economy. They exported too much, had resources and too cheap. US used local puppets and sanctions on NS2 to prepare, then started Ukr thing trying to get both eu and Russia. Now they’re waiting for the moment to cut eu links to China. They want that business too. So it feels like eu puppets will start to sanction China, with or without Slava Taiwani started. Which may not even start at all, Shoigu announced that the smo will last until 2025, so natoids will be busy

Posted by: rk | Sep 26 2023 21:17 utc | 289

barstool | Sep 26 2023 20:55 utc | 145
Weapons are a big part but I think the main task was to take Germany’s economy. They exported too much, had resources and too cheap. US used local puppets and sanctions on NS2 to prepare, then started Ukr thing trying to get both eu and Russia. Now they’re waiting for the moment to cut eu links to China. They want that business too. So it feels like eu puppets will start to sanction China, with or without Slava Taiwani started. Which may not even start at all, Shoigu announced that the smo will last until 2025, so natoids will be busy

Posted by: rk | Sep 26 2023 21:17 utc | 290

As a quick introduction for those who do not know yet. The AfD stands for laissez faire neoliberalism and far-right populism on steroids. The declared main enemy of the AfD is the statutory minimum wage and social programs of all kinds that hinder capitalists from uninhibited exploitation.
Posted by: Nobody | Sep 26 2023 17:58 utc | 93
Which suggests the rise in their popularity either comes from people who aren’t politically aware, dumb as rocks, willing to accept their neo liberalism perhaps out of desperation or you aren’t being straight forward with your representation due some bias or other motivation.
Not criticizing your input, German politics isn’t in my wheelhouse. Just interested to learn more about this party that seems to upset the main stream ‘neo liberals’ so much.

Posted by: bubbles | Sep 26 2023 21:17 utc | 291

As a quick introduction for those who do not know yet. The AfD stands for laissez faire neoliberalism and far-right populism on steroids. The declared main enemy of the AfD is the statutory minimum wage and social programs of all kinds that hinder capitalists from uninhibited exploitation.
Posted by: Nobody | Sep 26 2023 17:58 utc | 93
Which suggests the rise in their popularity either comes from people who aren’t politically aware, dumb as rocks, willing to accept their neo liberalism perhaps out of desperation or you aren’t being straight forward with your representation due some bias or other motivation.
Not criticizing your input, German politics isn’t in my wheelhouse. Just interested to learn more about this party that seems to upset the main stream ‘neo liberals’ so much.

Posted by: bubbles | Sep 26 2023 21:17 utc | 292

interesting article sputnik couple days ago….for commercial jets to go carbon neutral in Germany synthetic parafin fuel would have to be made….trouble is doing it would use up half Germany’s electrical energy supply and no way is the system designed to do that or is capable .

Posted by: Jo | Sep 26 2023 21:25 utc | 293

interesting article sputnik couple days ago….for commercial jets to go carbon neutral in Germany synthetic parafin fuel would have to be made….trouble is doing it would use up half Germany’s electrical energy supply and no way is the system designed to do that or is capable .

Posted by: Jo | Sep 26 2023 21:25 utc | 294

Why wasn’t it retaliated?
It must be

Posted by: Jason | Sep 26 2023 21:30 utc | 295

Why wasn’t it retaliated?
It must be

Posted by: Jason | Sep 26 2023 21:30 utc | 296

Shocked | Sep 26 2023 21:08 utc | 148
” Is Germany going to be pushed into war with Russia for a third time?
Posted by: German | Sep 26 2023 21:01 utc | 146 ”
Hence, the intentional flooding of Germany, Europe, and the US with, military age, male migrants ?”
You think these flaccid governments can conscript these invaders and force them to fight the Russians? I suspect that would get them to fight all right, but not in the direction the Europeon governments want them to fight.
On the other hand if things keep going on like this, I expect to see the self-extermination of the hohols followed by that of the Balts, Finns, Poles, and eventually Germans, Dutch, etc.

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Sep 26 2023 21:34 utc | 297

Shocked | Sep 26 2023 21:08 utc | 148
” Is Germany going to be pushed into war with Russia for a third time?
Posted by: German | Sep 26 2023 21:01 utc | 146 ”
Hence, the intentional flooding of Germany, Europe, and the US with, military age, male migrants ?”
You think these flaccid governments can conscript these invaders and force them to fight the Russians? I suspect that would get them to fight all right, but not in the direction the Europeon governments want them to fight.
On the other hand if things keep going on like this, I expect to see the self-extermination of the hohols followed by that of the Balts, Finns, Poles, and eventually Germans, Dutch, etc.

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Sep 26 2023 21:34 utc | 298

When the US became the world leader in natural gas supply from fracking, it was plain to see it would try to gain export advantage. Unable to challenge Russia’s low priced gas, it focussed on Europe as prime consumer. And now you know the rest of the story.

Posted by: Arctic | Sep 26 2023 21:34 utc | 299

When the US became the world leader in natural gas supply from fracking, it was plain to see it would try to gain export advantage. Unable to challenge Russia’s low priced gas, it focussed on Europe as prime consumer. And now you know the rest of the story.

Posted by: Arctic | Sep 26 2023 21:34 utc | 300

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