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September 26, 2023
Hersh Reveals U.S. Motive For Destruction Of Nord Stream Pipelines

Seymour Hersh just published a new piece about the bombing of the Nord Stream pipelines.

When the pipelines were blown up on September 27 2022 I had asked:

Whodunnit? – Facts Related to The Sabotage Attack On The Nord Stream Pipelines

I had collected the various known facts around the incident and they in sum suggested that it had been the U.S. of A.

Seymour Hersh put the same question to some of his intelligence contacts. He was given the same answer.

He now reports on further facts and final motives to trigger the incident.

A YEAR OF LYING ABOUT NORD STREAM
The Biden administration has acknowledged neither its responsibility for the pipeline bombing nor the purpose of the sabotage
(archived version)

At the core of Hersh's report is this:

It was no surprise to the agency’s secret planning group when on January 27, 2022, the assured and confident Nuland, then undersecretary of state for political affairs, stridently warned Putin that if he invaded Ukraine, as he clearly was planning to, that “one way or another Nord Stream 2 will not move forward.” The line attracted enormous attention, but the words preceding the threat did not. The official State Department transcript shows that she preceded her threat by saying that with regard to the pipeline: “We continue to have very strong and clear conversations with our German allies.”

The German leader was considered then—and now—by some members of the CIA team to be fully aware of the secret planning underway to destroy the pipelines.

What I did not know then, but was told recently, was that after Biden’s extraordinary public threat to blow up Nord Stream 2, with Scholz standing next to him, the CIA planning group was told by the White House that there would be no immediate attack on the two pipelines, but the group should arrange to plant the necessary bombs and be ready to trigger them “on demand”—after the war began. “It was then that we”—the small planning group that was working in Oslo with the Royal Norwegian Navy and special services on the project—“understood that the attack on the pipelines was not a deterrent because as the war went on we never got the command.”

After Biden’s order to trigger the explosives planted on the pipelines, it took only a short flight with a Norwegian fighter and the dropping of an altered off-the-shelf sonar device at the right spot in the Baltic Sea to get it done. By then the CIA group had long disbanded. By then, too, the official told me: “We realized that the destruction of the two Russian pipelines was not related to the Ukrainian war”—Putin was in the process of annexing the four Ukrainian oblasts he wanted—“but was part of a neocon political agenda to keep Scholz and Germany, with winter coming up and the pipelines shut down, from getting cold feet and opening up” the shuttered Nord Stream 2. “The White House fear was that Putin would get Germany under his thumb and then he was going to get Poland.”

All of this explains why a routine question I posed a month or so after the bombings to someone with many years in the American intelligence community led me to a truth that no one in America or Germany seems to want to pursue. My question was simple: “Who did it?”

The Biden administration blew up the pipelines but the action had little to do with winning or stopping the war in Ukraine. It resulted from fears in the White House that Germany would waver and turn on the flow of Russia gas—and that Germany and then NATO, for economic reasons, would fall under the sway of Russia and its extensive and inexpensive natural resources. And thus followed the ultimate fear: that America would lose its long-standing primacy in Western Europe.

The German Chancellor Olaf Scholz will now have to answer some serious questions …

Added:

This is of course related:

Stephen Stapczynski @SStapczynski – 22:47 UTC · Sep 25, 2023

Europe must rely on LNG from the US for decades, said EU’s top energy official 🇪🇺🤝🇺🇸

🚢 “There will be a need for American energy,” said Jørgensen, energy director-general

⚡️ This is one of the strongest signals that the EU needs US LNG well past 2030

ft.com – Top EU energy official says US gas will be needed for decades

Comments

@ bubbles | Sep 26 2023 15:49 utc | 39
imv it doesn’t matter who forms the govt in Germany … the AfD won’t be any different if they win next elections …. they will all end up doing the same things anyway because they don’t have a choice or an alternative short of war trying to kick all the US Military put of their country … which would automatically trigger a complete financial meltdown for them and the EU worse than is already coming now.
That would actually be a very good thing for them and the people overall, but none of the political parties have the guts or the wisdom to do it.
The system is self-sustaining … the people calling themselves politicians or Chancellor are powerless to change anything now. Just look at how the Greeks folded when they had the debt problem with the EU/Germany and the Left party SYRIZA was in power threatening to leave the EURO … the Germans are now like the Greeks.
Powerless.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 26 2023 16:10 utc | 101

@ bubbles | Sep 26 2023 15:49 utc | 39
imv it doesn’t matter who forms the govt in Germany … the AfD won’t be any different if they win next elections …. they will all end up doing the same things anyway because they don’t have a choice or an alternative short of war trying to kick all the US Military put of their country … which would automatically trigger a complete financial meltdown for them and the EU worse than is already coming now.
That would actually be a very good thing for them and the people overall, but none of the political parties have the guts or the wisdom to do it.
The system is self-sustaining … the people calling themselves politicians or Chancellor are powerless to change anything now. Just look at how the Greeks folded when they had the debt problem with the EU/Germany and the Left party SYRIZA was in power threatening to leave the EURO … the Germans are now like the Greeks.
Powerless.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 26 2023 16:10 utc | 102

Who will ask questions?
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Sep 26 2023 14:43 utc | 9

Dr. Wagenknecht asked questions. The response to her request to the Ministry of Economic Affairs and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs was refused, citing national security interests.
https://www.bmwk.de/Redaktion/DE/Parlamentarische-Anfragen/2022/09/9-644.pdf?__blob=publicationFile&v=4

Posted by: Nobody | Sep 26 2023 16:10 utc | 103

Who will ask questions?
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Sep 26 2023 14:43 utc | 9

Dr. Wagenknecht asked questions. The response to her request to the Ministry of Economic Affairs and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs was refused, citing national security interests.
https://www.bmwk.de/Redaktion/DE/Parlamentarische-Anfragen/2022/09/9-644.pdf?__blob=publicationFile&v=4

Posted by: Nobody | Sep 26 2023 16:10 utc | 104

Looks like within a few years, the resource will be in decline
Then the EU will be on it’s own…
INDY
Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 26 2023 15:50 utc | 40
Read an article recently which discussed directly related topics, saying both the Bakken and Eagle Ford areas are in decline and have been for some time. Only the Permian basin still had capacity for growth for a while. Believe the source was the CEO of Continental resources and he said the US gov’t has to make financial support available to the oil Co’s if they are to increase output and maintain US energy independence.
Always chuckle when Corporate leaders pull out the begging bowl and head to Washington.

Posted by: bubbles | Sep 26 2023 16:13 utc | 105

Looks like within a few years, the resource will be in decline
Then the EU will be on it’s own…
INDY
Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 26 2023 15:50 utc | 40
Read an article recently which discussed directly related topics, saying both the Bakken and Eagle Ford areas are in decline and have been for some time. Only the Permian basin still had capacity for growth for a while. Believe the source was the CEO of Continental resources and he said the US gov’t has to make financial support available to the oil Co’s if they are to increase output and maintain US energy independence.
Always chuckle when Corporate leaders pull out the begging bowl and head to Washington.

Posted by: bubbles | Sep 26 2023 16:13 utc | 106

The fact that the empire sees no other way to control its vassal than through acts of sabotage is another sign of weakness and decline. The decline is inevitable, but they are still in the denial stage. Let’s hope they reach the acceptance stage before they do something really crazy like use nukes. But who knows, they used nukes around the beginning of their empire and they might choose to go out with a final nuclear bang.

Posted by: aquileia | Sep 26 2023 16:15 utc | 107

The fact that the empire sees no other way to control its vassal than through acts of sabotage is another sign of weakness and decline. The decline is inevitable, but they are still in the denial stage. Let’s hope they reach the acceptance stage before they do something really crazy like use nukes. But who knows, they used nukes around the beginning of their empire and they might choose to go out with a final nuclear bang.

Posted by: aquileia | Sep 26 2023 16:15 utc | 108

@ JessDTruth | Sep 26 2023 16:07 utc | 50
I am not trolling, that’s just hand-waving ridiculous. Be serious.
Why would you believe Sy is telling the truth about what Nuland told the europeans in the first place?
He packaged upa great ‘story’ on Nordstream when no one else had anything. His track record carried the article as credible. My opinion, whether you like it or not, is that he hasn’t had a single thing worth saying since, and this latest is weaker.
My opinion is this is a nothing burger – ala it amounts to nothing at all. That’s my genuine opinion and that doesn’t make me a troll. You must be confusing me with someone else.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 26 2023 16:17 utc | 109

@ JessDTruth | Sep 26 2023 16:07 utc | 50
I am not trolling, that’s just hand-waving ridiculous. Be serious.
Why would you believe Sy is telling the truth about what Nuland told the europeans in the first place?
He packaged upa great ‘story’ on Nordstream when no one else had anything. His track record carried the article as credible. My opinion, whether you like it or not, is that he hasn’t had a single thing worth saying since, and this latest is weaker.
My opinion is this is a nothing burger – ala it amounts to nothing at all. That’s my genuine opinion and that doesn’t make me a troll. You must be confusing me with someone else.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 26 2023 16:17 utc | 110

Everyone focuses mainly on the USA, which they are right; however there is an important piece of the puzzle which is yet to be revealed and that includes an additional culprit in the strategy and planning of this unprecedented terrorist attack.

Posted by: AI | Sep 26 2023 16:20 utc | 111

Everyone focuses mainly on the USA, which they are right; however there is an important piece of the puzzle which is yet to be revealed and that includes an additional culprit in the strategy and planning of this unprecedented terrorist attack.

Posted by: AI | Sep 26 2023 16:20 utc | 112

That (breaking Europe’s “pipeline” to cheap Russian gas) is also a big part of the war in Ukraine.

Posted by: El Rucio | Sep 26 2023 16:23 utc | 113

That (breaking Europe’s “pipeline” to cheap Russian gas) is also a big part of the war in Ukraine.

Posted by: El Rucio | Sep 26 2023 16:23 utc | 114

@ LoveDonbass 33
?Trump is very good at talking. Not so good at following through. He’s quick to blame someone else or fall back on excuses. … Lots of chest beating and front running.”
This is an important analysis of Trump, away from the glare of his other faults. Your analysis even partly explains some of his other flaws – and his bigger crimes like murdering Soleimani.
But the problem is that Trump is the best candidate of what’s out there. RFK Jr. is owned by the .01% billionaires, including both the Koch brothers and Bill Gates, as evidenced by a fundraising dinner they gave him. So RFKJ s a limited hangout, a dead-end for democracy. As I’ve said before, in the US, “electoral politics” is a tar baby, as in the Brer Rabbit tale. A criminal MSM has pushed “Hope And Change” (Obama’s mantra) too many times and “the next elecctions” never changes anything. Like George Carlin said, “If voting could change things, it would be illegal.” We need a long-term plan which can grow strong roots. Anything less can’t survive the coming storm of a crumbled empire.

Posted by: JessDTruth | Sep 26 2023 16:24 utc | 115

@ LoveDonbass 33
?Trump is very good at talking. Not so good at following through. He’s quick to blame someone else or fall back on excuses. … Lots of chest beating and front running.”
This is an important analysis of Trump, away from the glare of his other faults. Your analysis even partly explains some of his other flaws – and his bigger crimes like murdering Soleimani.
But the problem is that Trump is the best candidate of what’s out there. RFK Jr. is owned by the .01% billionaires, including both the Koch brothers and Bill Gates, as evidenced by a fundraising dinner they gave him. So RFKJ s a limited hangout, a dead-end for democracy. As I’ve said before, in the US, “electoral politics” is a tar baby, as in the Brer Rabbit tale. A criminal MSM has pushed “Hope And Change” (Obama’s mantra) too many times and “the next elecctions” never changes anything. Like George Carlin said, “If voting could change things, it would be illegal.” We need a long-term plan which can grow strong roots. Anything less can’t survive the coming storm of a crumbled empire.

Posted by: JessDTruth | Sep 26 2023 16:24 utc | 116

Probably his sources, but his continued painting of a good CIA and bad Biden is still somewhat suspect in my mind.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 26 2023 16:24 utc | 117

Probably his sources, but his continued painting of a good CIA and bad Biden is still somewhat suspect in my mind.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 26 2023 16:24 utc | 118

Nord-Stream bombing
MH-17
Maidan Coup
Russian did it. Bad Russia..very bad russia… go to the corner.
Here in Canada … Smoking is good … gender affirmation is awesome.
I think I have stepped into a parallel world. All the myriad ways.

Posted by: Angelo | Sep 26 2023 16:25 utc | 119

Nord-Stream bombing
MH-17
Maidan Coup
Russian did it. Bad Russia..very bad russia… go to the corner.
Here in Canada … Smoking is good … gender affirmation is awesome.
I think I have stepped into a parallel world. All the myriad ways.

Posted by: Angelo | Sep 26 2023 16:25 utc | 120

Posted by: Don Firineach | Sep 26 2023 14:42 utc | 7
Party of Venice/City of London

Posted by: GEORGE CHAMBERLAIN | Sep 26 2023 16:28 utc | 121

Posted by: Don Firineach | Sep 26 2023 14:42 utc | 7
Party of Venice/City of London

Posted by: GEORGE CHAMBERLAIN | Sep 26 2023 16:28 utc | 122

As someone from Germany who has been watching all this unfold, do you really think that Scholz is going to be forced to admit anything? […] The bottom of the cliff is still a long ways off
Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 26 2023 15:20 utc | 20

Well said, you nailed it. Tomorrow will be the same as today.
This article and Hersh’s article and his next one too isn’t going to change a damn thing. Bar a few people here hopefully being just a little wiser and more knowledgeable overall.
But Germany won’t be changing one bit – or Scholtz, and he won’t have any tough questions to answer either. It will all blow away as quickly as a Nazi getting a standing ovation in Canada’s parliament disappears from the collective memory. 🙂

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 26 2023 16:30 utc | 123

As someone from Germany who has been watching all this unfold, do you really think that Scholz is going to be forced to admit anything? […] The bottom of the cliff is still a long ways off
Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 26 2023 15:20 utc | 20

Well said, you nailed it. Tomorrow will be the same as today.
This article and Hersh’s article and his next one too isn’t going to change a damn thing. Bar a few people here hopefully being just a little wiser and more knowledgeable overall.
But Germany won’t be changing one bit – or Scholtz, and he won’t have any tough questions to answer either. It will all blow away as quickly as a Nazi getting a standing ovation in Canada’s parliament disappears from the collective memory. 🙂

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 26 2023 16:30 utc | 124

We need a long-term plan which can grow strong roots. Anything less can’t survive the coming storm of a crumbled empire.
Posted by: JessDTruth | Sep 26 2023 16:24 utc | 59
############
Sound thinking.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 26 2023 16:31 utc | 125

We need a long-term plan which can grow strong roots. Anything less can’t survive the coming storm of a crumbled empire.
Posted by: JessDTruth | Sep 26 2023 16:24 utc | 59
############
Sound thinking.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 26 2023 16:31 utc | 126

What a time to be alive. For almost the entirety of history the fall of empires was something you could only experience via history books. Even if you lived through them you would have had very little contextual information that allowed you to gain any understanding in real time. But here we are, able to watch the decline and fall of the US play out in day-to-day detail.

Posted by: Lex | Sep 26 2023 16:31 utc | 127

What a time to be alive. For almost the entirety of history the fall of empires was something you could only experience via history books. Even if you lived through them you would have had very little contextual information that allowed you to gain any understanding in real time. But here we are, able to watch the decline and fall of the US play out in day-to-day detail.

Posted by: Lex | Sep 26 2023 16:31 utc | 128

@ Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 26 2023 16:17 utc | 56
Agree that there is nothing new to those of us ‘reasonably’ in the know.
What it does is it raises the event again – and maybe more Europeans [as I am] will take some notice …
Hudson on keeping Germany down and the strategy of keeping Germany and Russia apart are nothing new … parts of the once ‘great game’ – Europe has lost it abysmally.

Posted by: Don Firineach | Sep 26 2023 16:32 utc | 129

@ Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 26 2023 16:17 utc | 56
Agree that there is nothing new to those of us ‘reasonably’ in the know.
What it does is it raises the event again – and maybe more Europeans [as I am] will take some notice …
Hudson on keeping Germany down and the strategy of keeping Germany and Russia apart are nothing new … parts of the once ‘great game’ – Europe has lost it abysmally.

Posted by: Don Firineach | Sep 26 2023 16:32 utc | 130

imv it doesn’t matter who forms the govt in Germany … the AfD won’t be any different if they win next elections .
Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 26 2023 16:10 utc | 52
Maybe so, but doesn’t it seem strange how the political establishment and their media spox get their knickers all in a knot every time they speak about the rise of said party? What are they afraid of if what you say is the likely outcome of them forming gov’t or being part of a coalition?

Posted by: bubbles | Sep 26 2023 16:33 utc | 131

imv it doesn’t matter who forms the govt in Germany … the AfD won’t be any different if they win next elections .
Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 26 2023 16:10 utc | 52
Maybe so, but doesn’t it seem strange how the political establishment and their media spox get their knickers all in a knot every time they speak about the rise of said party? What are they afraid of if what you say is the likely outcome of them forming gov’t or being part of a coalition?

Posted by: bubbles | Sep 26 2023 16:33 utc | 132

“the 98 year old SS volunteer whose boots were licked by Trudeau et al.”
Canada’s ruling party, “Liberals” have tabled a vote to ERASE the record of the Standing Ovation for the Ukrainian Nazi for “killing Russians during WWII”. Conveniently overlooking that the USSR was Canada’s Allie against the NAZIs. Many Canadians were killed by the SS in Italy.
It is one thing to erase History, but erasing History which Canadian Politicians never knew in the first place, and clapped like Meth-Head Chipmunks because Zelensky brought the old Nazi into Canada’s Parliament, requires a new Yardstick to measure the dullards that control Canada.

Posted by: kupkee | Sep 26 2023 16:33 utc | 133

“the 98 year old SS volunteer whose boots were licked by Trudeau et al.”
Canada’s ruling party, “Liberals” have tabled a vote to ERASE the record of the Standing Ovation for the Ukrainian Nazi for “killing Russians during WWII”. Conveniently overlooking that the USSR was Canada’s Allie against the NAZIs. Many Canadians were killed by the SS in Italy.
It is one thing to erase History, but erasing History which Canadian Politicians never knew in the first place, and clapped like Meth-Head Chipmunks because Zelensky brought the old Nazi into Canada’s Parliament, requires a new Yardstick to measure the dullards that control Canada.

Posted by: kupkee | Sep 26 2023 16:33 utc | 134

A year later and still hearing about this?
Forget about it.
The rest of the World has.
A “distraction” piece, nothing else.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 26 2023 16:35 utc | 135

A year later and still hearing about this?
Forget about it.
The rest of the World has.
A “distraction” piece, nothing else.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 26 2023 16:35 utc | 136

The Game Risk and the SMO
I’ve played the game Risk for 50 years.
Its an entertainment example of the Thucydides Trap but we are now observing the phenomena in real time- Russia/US grappling with each other while China collects his cards…
Posted by: canuck | 46
Yo Yo Yo Canuck. I’ve played risk for 50 years as well. 7 hours was the longest with 6-7 players. Lots of beer and a couple of toots.
My experience was that when someone was about to be terminated of the board… watch out…chances are they will cheat.
Just like Life.

Posted by: Angelo | Sep 26 2023 16:36 utc | 137

The Game Risk and the SMO
I’ve played the game Risk for 50 years.
Its an entertainment example of the Thucydides Trap but we are now observing the phenomena in real time- Russia/US grappling with each other while China collects his cards…
Posted by: canuck | 46
Yo Yo Yo Canuck. I’ve played risk for 50 years as well. 7 hours was the longest with 6-7 players. Lots of beer and a couple of toots.
My experience was that when someone was about to be terminated of the board… watch out…chances are they will cheat.
Just like Life.

Posted by: Angelo | Sep 26 2023 16:36 utc | 138

bubbles | Sep 26 2023 16:33 utc | 67
I hear you. The way I see it, is every party thinks they should be in Govt. The individuals get paid more especially if they are a minister. Of course they are going to bad mouth the AfD because they want to win the elections and not them …. what I am saying is even if the AfD win the election and form Govt they will still not be any different, the same as Syriza were no different despite their big promising Left leaning pro-Freedom for Greece anti-Eurozone/EU election platform … once in Govt they had no choice against overwhelming Power – neither will the AfD have a choice except on the margins of “social policy” … see what I mean?
Germany is now extremely reliant upon the US in ways never before because it has been seriously weakened. And they know it.
For example since when was the German Green Party so Pro-War, Pro-USA, and Pro-Military spending on steroids?

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 26 2023 16:44 utc | 139

bubbles | Sep 26 2023 16:33 utc | 67
I hear you. The way I see it, is every party thinks they should be in Govt. The individuals get paid more especially if they are a minister. Of course they are going to bad mouth the AfD because they want to win the elections and not them …. what I am saying is even if the AfD win the election and form Govt they will still not be any different, the same as Syriza were no different despite their big promising Left leaning pro-Freedom for Greece anti-Eurozone/EU election platform … once in Govt they had no choice against overwhelming Power – neither will the AfD have a choice except on the margins of “social policy” … see what I mean?
Germany is now extremely reliant upon the US in ways never before because it has been seriously weakened. And they know it.
For example since when was the German Green Party so Pro-War, Pro-USA, and Pro-Military spending on steroids?

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 26 2023 16:44 utc | 140

Here is my opinion. Gas coming from the US is not permanent. TPTB (Jewish) want to control the world. In order to do that, they need to control all money and finance and natural resources of our planet. In order to control resources, they have to control Russia, break it down into several small nations. So they are pulling all stops to do such. This is why they destroyed the pipelines in the hope that they could export their depleting gas reserves to Europe long enough to break Russia’s economy down, do a color revolution, take over Russia’s oil and gas resources, repair the pipelines, and then ship the gas to Europe and wherever else and claim these monetary prophets rather than Russia. This is the real reason for the Ukrainian war. This is why Biden said as long as it takes as far as Ukraine is concerned. This is why he is determined to give as much money and amo to Ukraine as necessary. He figures in his stupidity that this will break Russia.

Posted by: Boxwoodtree | Sep 26 2023 16:44 utc | 141

Here is my opinion. Gas coming from the US is not permanent. TPTB (Jewish) want to control the world. In order to do that, they need to control all money and finance and natural resources of our planet. In order to control resources, they have to control Russia, break it down into several small nations. So they are pulling all stops to do such. This is why they destroyed the pipelines in the hope that they could export their depleting gas reserves to Europe long enough to break Russia’s economy down, do a color revolution, take over Russia’s oil and gas resources, repair the pipelines, and then ship the gas to Europe and wherever else and claim these monetary prophets rather than Russia. This is the real reason for the Ukrainian war. This is why Biden said as long as it takes as far as Ukraine is concerned. This is why he is determined to give as much money and amo to Ukraine as necessary. He figures in his stupidity that this will break Russia.

Posted by: Boxwoodtree | Sep 26 2023 16:44 utc | 142

Nobody in Germany is realy interested in fate of NS2.

Posted by: simplex | Sep 26 2023 16:46 utc | 143

Nobody in Germany is realy interested in fate of NS2.

Posted by: simplex | Sep 26 2023 16:46 utc | 144

Indy @ 40 –
Good post. Sheldon’s data is determinative. Permian Basin petroleum will be unobtainable soon. In areas of that oil patch where gas pressure was pissed away long ago, the drillers used high-pressure, high-temperature water to raise the oil. Early farmers and ranchers could dig their wells by hand 100+ years ago; by the 1960s the average water table was 300-400 feet deep. (Also due to sulfur extraction and, later, cotton farming). The only water left is Ogallala acquirer, and I don’t think that even Texas officials will let them mine that too deeply.

Posted by: Paul Spencer | Sep 26 2023 16:51 utc | 145

Indy @ 40 –
Good post. Sheldon’s data is determinative. Permian Basin petroleum will be unobtainable soon. In areas of that oil patch where gas pressure was pissed away long ago, the drillers used high-pressure, high-temperature water to raise the oil. Early farmers and ranchers could dig their wells by hand 100+ years ago; by the 1960s the average water table was 300-400 feet deep. (Also due to sulfur extraction and, later, cotton farming). The only water left is Ogallala acquirer, and I don’t think that even Texas officials will let them mine that too deeply.

Posted by: Paul Spencer | Sep 26 2023 16:51 utc | 146

@ 70
“Yo Yo Yo Canuck. I’ve played risk for 50 years as well. 7 hours was the longest with 6-7 players. Lots of beer and a couple of toots.”
Wow! A perfect description of the Biden/ NATO/ Ukrainian war room.

Posted by: Golddigger | Sep 26 2023 16:55 utc | 147

@ 70
“Yo Yo Yo Canuck. I’ve played risk for 50 years as well. 7 hours was the longest with 6-7 players. Lots of beer and a couple of toots.”
Wow! A perfect description of the Biden/ NATO/ Ukrainian war room.

Posted by: Golddigger | Sep 26 2023 16:55 utc | 148

While it is fun to imagine, I find it hard to understand why there would be a single reporter with access to sources supplying inside information that that counters US claims and puts US in bad light (well, reality does that as well). Seems like some Q-Anon stuff.

Posted by: jared | Sep 26 2023 16:58 utc | 149

While it is fun to imagine, I find it hard to understand why there would be a single reporter with access to sources supplying inside information that that counters US claims and puts US in bad light (well, reality does that as well). Seems like some Q-Anon stuff.

Posted by: jared | Sep 26 2023 16:58 utc | 150

Posted by: Inkan1969 | Sep 26 2023 15:23 utc | 22
But nowadays he reports Vitamin C diets…
Perhaps you’re unaware, but Linus Pauling was awarded his Nobel Prize for his work regarding Vitamin C long before he began political/social commentary, when he stepped out of his lane ala Noam Chomsky, a theoretical linguist. Typical US academic, believing that his opinions outside of his expertise are worth more than those of others.
Re NS: The coming El Nino winter may reawaken German minds.

Posted by: Ciaran | Sep 26 2023 16:58 utc | 151

Posted by: Inkan1969 | Sep 26 2023 15:23 utc | 22
But nowadays he reports Vitamin C diets…
Perhaps you’re unaware, but Linus Pauling was awarded his Nobel Prize for his work regarding Vitamin C long before he began political/social commentary, when he stepped out of his lane ala Noam Chomsky, a theoretical linguist. Typical US academic, believing that his opinions outside of his expertise are worth more than those of others.
Re NS: The coming El Nino winter may reawaken German minds.

Posted by: Ciaran | Sep 26 2023 16:58 utc | 152

I also want to add that I believe the primary reason for destroying the Soviet Union was for the Jewish oligarchs to steal Soviet companies for pennies on the dollar while weakening all Soviet nations so that they could not present a challenge to the next phase of their plans. This is why the majority of Russian Jews went to the United States instead of Israel. This also goes for European Jews after the Second World War. Their monetary machinations made the US a rich and powerful nation and they intended to use this powerful nation as their main battering ram in their quest for world domination. Of course they didn’t figure on the rise of a man like Vladimir Putin. AH, the plans of mice and men.

Posted by: Boxwoodtree | Sep 26 2023 17:01 utc | 153

I also want to add that I believe the primary reason for destroying the Soviet Union was for the Jewish oligarchs to steal Soviet companies for pennies on the dollar while weakening all Soviet nations so that they could not present a challenge to the next phase of their plans. This is why the majority of Russian Jews went to the United States instead of Israel. This also goes for European Jews after the Second World War. Their monetary machinations made the US a rich and powerful nation and they intended to use this powerful nation as their main battering ram in their quest for world domination. Of course they didn’t figure on the rise of a man like Vladimir Putin. AH, the plans of mice and men.

Posted by: Boxwoodtree | Sep 26 2023 17:01 utc | 154

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 26 2023 16:30 utc | 63
germany is already changing a bit, it’s paying higher prices for gas. which makes the population more likely to protest and weakens leaders like Scholz.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 26 2023 17:01 utc | 155

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 26 2023 16:30 utc | 63
germany is already changing a bit, it’s paying higher prices for gas. which makes the population more likely to protest and weakens leaders like Scholz.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 26 2023 17:01 utc | 156

, the same as Syriza were no different despite their big promising Left leaning pro-Freedom for Greece anti-Eurozone/EU election platform … once in Govt they had no choice against overwhelming Power – neither will the AfD have a choice except on the margins of “social policy” … see what I mean?
Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 26 2023 16:44 utc | 71
Not really. I get your drift so to speak but Syriza might as well have inherited a corpse considering the mess Greece was in thanks to the banker cabal and their enablers. Germany for all it’s warts isn’t Greece and there is a strong economic base to work with and citizens with a very different mindset and habits.
Some courage would be required of course like turning the nuclear plants back on to start with if that’s still possible. As for their Green party, it’s difficult to understand their behaviour except if one considers the age old tactic of bribery. Vut’s your price?
Btw I’m not advocating for the Afd, I don’t know a great deal about them, and my main point was Sgt. Shultz is in pretty rough seas politically and may soon find himself rowing a life boat to friendlier shores. The CDU appear to be headed back to power (27%)judging by the polls but they would likely need the Afd who is polling 22% in order to form a government. Afd are making inroads in regional elections as well. Hearing the shrieking from the establishment hearkens back to trump syndrome in the US, so who knows?
We live in interesting times.

Posted by: bubbles | Sep 26 2023 17:07 utc | 157

, the same as Syriza were no different despite their big promising Left leaning pro-Freedom for Greece anti-Eurozone/EU election platform … once in Govt they had no choice against overwhelming Power – neither will the AfD have a choice except on the margins of “social policy” … see what I mean?
Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 26 2023 16:44 utc | 71
Not really. I get your drift so to speak but Syriza might as well have inherited a corpse considering the mess Greece was in thanks to the banker cabal and their enablers. Germany for all it’s warts isn’t Greece and there is a strong economic base to work with and citizens with a very different mindset and habits.
Some courage would be required of course like turning the nuclear plants back on to start with if that’s still possible. As for their Green party, it’s difficult to understand their behaviour except if one considers the age old tactic of bribery. Vut’s your price?
Btw I’m not advocating for the Afd, I don’t know a great deal about them, and my main point was Sgt. Shultz is in pretty rough seas politically and may soon find himself rowing a life boat to friendlier shores. The CDU appear to be headed back to power (27%)judging by the polls but they would likely need the Afd who is polling 22% in order to form a government. Afd are making inroads in regional elections as well. Hearing the shrieking from the establishment hearkens back to trump syndrome in the US, so who knows?
We live in interesting times.

Posted by: bubbles | Sep 26 2023 17:07 utc | 158

Lavrov’s Dog, #35 No. The US want to dismember Russia
so, it wasn’t good enough for you that i expressed US wanted to end Russia. one way to “dismember” it would be to cut it off from europe, but i believe Russia has found a way around that.
LoveDonbass #33 i think you’re missing the point about Trump discussing NATO. it was a huge deal to even introduce the idea of US scaling back, and h clinton made it into a bigger deal. it’s the first time i ever heard a politician discussing it, and regardless of you or i think of trump, people listen to him.

Halperin, March 23: Should America be the leader of NATO or not necessarily?
Trump: I think NATO may be obsolete. NATO was set up a long time ago — many, many years ago when things were different. Things are different now. We were a rich nation then. We had nothing but money. We had nothing but power. And you know, far more than we have today, in a true sense. And I think NATO — you have to really examine NATO. And it doesn’t really help us, it’s helping other countries. And I don’t think those other countries appreciate what we’re doing.
Heilemann: So, just to be clear, you made two slightly different arguments there and I just want to clarify. One of them is that you might want to see the U.S. pay less money into NATO because …
Trump: That one definitely. That one definitely.
Heilemann: But it’s possible that NATO is obsolete and should be gotten rid of?
Trump: It’s possible. It’s possible. I would certainly look at it. And I’d want more help from other people. The one thing definitely — we’re paying too much. As to whether or not it’s obsolete, I’ll make that determination.

Posted by: annie | Sep 26 2023 17:13 utc | 159

Lavrov’s Dog, #35 No. The US want to dismember Russia
so, it wasn’t good enough for you that i expressed US wanted to end Russia. one way to “dismember” it would be to cut it off from europe, but i believe Russia has found a way around that.
LoveDonbass #33 i think you’re missing the point about Trump discussing NATO. it was a huge deal to even introduce the idea of US scaling back, and h clinton made it into a bigger deal. it’s the first time i ever heard a politician discussing it, and regardless of you or i think of trump, people listen to him.

Halperin, March 23: Should America be the leader of NATO or not necessarily?
Trump: I think NATO may be obsolete. NATO was set up a long time ago — many, many years ago when things were different. Things are different now. We were a rich nation then. We had nothing but money. We had nothing but power. And you know, far more than we have today, in a true sense. And I think NATO — you have to really examine NATO. And it doesn’t really help us, it’s helping other countries. And I don’t think those other countries appreciate what we’re doing.
Heilemann: So, just to be clear, you made two slightly different arguments there and I just want to clarify. One of them is that you might want to see the U.S. pay less money into NATO because …
Trump: That one definitely. That one definitely.
Heilemann: But it’s possible that NATO is obsolete and should be gotten rid of?
Trump: It’s possible. It’s possible. I would certainly look at it. And I’d want more help from other people. The one thing definitely — we’re paying too much. As to whether or not it’s obsolete, I’ll make that determination.

Posted by: annie | Sep 26 2023 17:13 utc | 160

The EU countries now buy the majority of Russian supplies, thereby securing one of the Kremlin’s most important sources of income. Between January and July 2023, the EU bought 52% of all Russian LNG exports, compared to 49% in 2022 and 39% in 2021.
https://www.agrarheute.com/energie/gas/europa-importiert-massenweise-fluessiggas-lng-russland-610711

Posted by: Aldi | Sep 26 2023 17:15 utc | 161

The EU countries now buy the majority of Russian supplies, thereby securing one of the Kremlin’s most important sources of income. Between January and July 2023, the EU bought 52% of all Russian LNG exports, compared to 49% in 2022 and 39% in 2021.
https://www.agrarheute.com/energie/gas/europa-importiert-massenweise-fluessiggas-lng-russland-610711

Posted by: Aldi | Sep 26 2023 17:15 utc | 162

i would nothing better than a movement in both the US and Europe to dismantle Nato and i can’t think of anything more likely to result in that than the war in ukraine. crossing my fingers.

Posted by: annie | Sep 26 2023 17:21 utc | 163

i would nothing better than a movement in both the US and Europe to dismantle Nato and i can’t think of anything more likely to result in that than the war in ukraine. crossing my fingers.

Posted by: annie | Sep 26 2023 17:21 utc | 164

bubbles is right.
The questions aren’t going to come from the media. Not yet, not until they are left with no alternative but to ask them.
The questions are going to come from the unemployed, the short time workers and the service industries coping with declining demand. Jobs are already being lost, and at a time when Ukrainians and other refugees are beginning to pour onto the job market.
And those aren’t the only jobs at stake: elections are coming. And so is the AfD. It won’t be long before the Left wakes up too and realises that this isn’t a war about freedom and democracy, any more than the wars in Iraq and Libya were. It’s a war for Full Spectrum Domination with reduction of the populace to serfdom as the final objective.
To put it another way: the SPD, now at about 15% in the polls is going to lose a lot of well paid sinecures in the Bundestag and downwards to the municipalities. And the (Brown Coal) Greens are going to have to change too to survive. The ‘sell by’ date on the Green label is expired.
The public seems to be reconciled to enjoying a bit of pain- a small price to pay for the thrill of Victory- but it will draw the line when the cuts get close to the bone and the future, once so bright, looks bleak and cold. And the cost of heating, that elemental source of comfort, is prohibitive.

Posted by: bevin | Sep 26 2023 17:23 utc | 165

bubbles is right.
The questions aren’t going to come from the media. Not yet, not until they are left with no alternative but to ask them.
The questions are going to come from the unemployed, the short time workers and the service industries coping with declining demand. Jobs are already being lost, and at a time when Ukrainians and other refugees are beginning to pour onto the job market.
And those aren’t the only jobs at stake: elections are coming. And so is the AfD. It won’t be long before the Left wakes up too and realises that this isn’t a war about freedom and democracy, any more than the wars in Iraq and Libya were. It’s a war for Full Spectrum Domination with reduction of the populace to serfdom as the final objective.
To put it another way: the SPD, now at about 15% in the polls is going to lose a lot of well paid sinecures in the Bundestag and downwards to the municipalities. And the (Brown Coal) Greens are going to have to change too to survive. The ‘sell by’ date on the Green label is expired.
The public seems to be reconciled to enjoying a bit of pain- a small price to pay for the thrill of Victory- but it will draw the line when the cuts get close to the bone and the future, once so bright, looks bleak and cold. And the cost of heating, that elemental source of comfort, is prohibitive.

Posted by: bevin | Sep 26 2023 17:23 utc | 166

Lavrov’s Dog, #35 No. The US want to dismember Russia
Dismembering Russia, if even possible, is risky business. US may end up to a bunch of ‘indipedent’ republics with a fare share of nuclear weapons each.

Posted by: Mario | Sep 26 2023 17:23 utc | 167

Lavrov’s Dog, #35 No. The US want to dismember Russia
Dismembering Russia, if even possible, is risky business. US may end up to a bunch of ‘indipedent’ republics with a fare share of nuclear weapons each.

Posted by: Mario | Sep 26 2023 17:23 utc | 168

Yo Yo Yo Canuck. I’ve played risk for 50 years as well. 7 hours was the longest with 6-7 players. Lots of beer and a couple of toots.
My experience was that when someone was about to be terminated of the board… watch out…chances are they will cheat.
Just like Life.
Yes, that was my experience too-hard to cheat with the dice, one has to watch the cards. My longest game was on January 1, 1985 on my late mother’s kitchen table in Bristol England-13 hours-my ‘best’ buddy started the game with only one purpose-to destroy me. I held him off for 12 hours but he prevailed over me and the third man, and Oceania won.
We imbibed many scotches and a few cannabis joints listrening to Lou Reed cassete tape….

Posted by: canuck | Sep 26 2023 17:29 utc | 169

Yo Yo Yo Canuck. I’ve played risk for 50 years as well. 7 hours was the longest with 6-7 players. Lots of beer and a couple of toots.
My experience was that when someone was about to be terminated of the board… watch out…chances are they will cheat.
Just like Life.
Yes, that was my experience too-hard to cheat with the dice, one has to watch the cards. My longest game was on January 1, 1985 on my late mother’s kitchen table in Bristol England-13 hours-my ‘best’ buddy started the game with only one purpose-to destroy me. I held him off for 12 hours but he prevailed over me and the third man, and Oceania won.
We imbibed many scotches and a few cannabis joints listrening to Lou Reed cassete tape….

Posted by: canuck | Sep 26 2023 17:29 utc | 170

Is Seymour Hersh a “real” journalist? Is Julian Assange a real journalist?
What is journalism in the current mileau? This cannot be answered by the purchased media. It will need to be put on the table and dissected by people who want real information. Kind of like what goes on at MOA on a daily basis.
Who is in jail and who is making residuals on their reporting?
Legitimacy my ass.

Posted by: Ronnie James | Sep 26 2023 17:31 utc | 171

Is Seymour Hersh a “real” journalist? Is Julian Assange a real journalist?
What is journalism in the current mileau? This cannot be answered by the purchased media. It will need to be put on the table and dissected by people who want real information. Kind of like what goes on at MOA on a daily basis.
Who is in jail and who is making residuals on their reporting?
Legitimacy my ass.

Posted by: Ronnie James | Sep 26 2023 17:31 utc | 172

@ Lavrov’s Dog 52 and 56
Hersch has a long track record of leaking stories someone in the Deep State wanted released, like the My Lai massacre 50 years ago. Herssch was un-personed and de-platformed because he told the truth about Ghouta in Syria – in 2019 IIRC. Consequently, Hersch has to work hard to get his voice heard in the alternative media. Did I say trolling ? Yeah, because normal people don’t attack someone for saying the same thing twice. Actually Hersch has had more to say recently, so it’s not repetition.
I also don’t buy your comparison of AfD and Syriza.
I fell hard, very hard, for the Syriza astroturf back in 2008, 2009. Only in hindsight did I realize the significance of the fact that Varoufakis had been helicoptered in from a professorship in Australia. When Syriza came to power, Tsipras and Varoufakis together went and made their pitch for rescheduling Greek debt, in front of a bunch of NPC Euro-bankers. The bankers’ total silence called Syriza’s bluff. I read Varoufakis’ version of what happened and I think his version was complete. What mattered is that Syriza didn’t make any counter-move whatsoever. Varoufakis said he couldn’t believe the non-response, but he never mentioned making a counter-move. That was a sh-t-show for the fake leftist party. Greek voters woke up and voted them out, but Varoufakis still spouts his stuff to some dumb-a**es. The “cherry on the top” is that Tsipras appointed Stefanos Kasselakis as his successor, a gay man from Goldman Sachs, who went to America as a teenager and never returned. That shows Tsipras was always a proxy for the bankers. Link to The Guardian (!!!) – but it’s the horse’s own mouth
The one comparison with Germany that holds water, is that the mainstream “Socialist” parties in both countries are 100% discredited, but especially so in Greece because the “Socialists” were massively corrupt and never delivered on their promises. One family controlled the Greek “Socialists” since 1920.
As for AfD, Alternative for Deutschland, I’m even more of an outsider, although I sometimes follow speeches in the Bundestag when it’s fiery speeches by the Die Linke and AfD spokeswomen. Yes, AfD is soft-spoken on the atrocities of Ukraine and other topics as well, but AfD says a lot more than the parties which are 200% complicit in those crimes, or Die Linke which is maybe 80% complicit. But I have to give AfD (and even Die Linke) something of a “free pass” because I know there is no Free Speech in Germany, so AfD has to tread with great care. This year, a German court gave a woman 3 years in prison for merely dancing the Kalinka in public. Some graete democracy they got there, just still has those ugly brown stains. At least one powerful German official is calling for an outright ban on the AfD, falsely claiming they are some sort of Nazis, mainly because the AfD wants to reduce the flow of refugees into Germany. Hell, real Nazis from the Ukraine get celebrated by the German government. Double standard doesn’t begin to describe it ! Is it even legal to discuss a concept like “The Great Replacement” in Germany ? OF course many nations have to be wary of militaristic nationalism and a resurgence of fascism. But AfD is authentic populism, and the elite who want to suppress it are the ones who have ties to real fascism.
Unlike Syriza, I’ve never seen anything to suggest that AfD has connections to the global elite or any foreign power. And that makes all the difference. Oh wait… one more difference: Syriza is dead as a party, while AfD is polling better than ever. #1 or #2. I’d be just as happy if Der Linke were to come to power, but I’ve read the polls and Die Linke has less chance to really change Germany than dos AfD.

Posted by: JessDTruth | Sep 26 2023 17:43 utc | 173

@ Lavrov’s Dog 52 and 56
Hersch has a long track record of leaking stories someone in the Deep State wanted released, like the My Lai massacre 50 years ago. Herssch was un-personed and de-platformed because he told the truth about Ghouta in Syria – in 2019 IIRC. Consequently, Hersch has to work hard to get his voice heard in the alternative media. Did I say trolling ? Yeah, because normal people don’t attack someone for saying the same thing twice. Actually Hersch has had more to say recently, so it’s not repetition.
I also don’t buy your comparison of AfD and Syriza.
I fell hard, very hard, for the Syriza astroturf back in 2008, 2009. Only in hindsight did I realize the significance of the fact that Varoufakis had been helicoptered in from a professorship in Australia. When Syriza came to power, Tsipras and Varoufakis together went and made their pitch for rescheduling Greek debt, in front of a bunch of NPC Euro-bankers. The bankers’ total silence called Syriza’s bluff. I read Varoufakis’ version of what happened and I think his version was complete. What mattered is that Syriza didn’t make any counter-move whatsoever. Varoufakis said he couldn’t believe the non-response, but he never mentioned making a counter-move. That was a sh-t-show for the fake leftist party. Greek voters woke up and voted them out, but Varoufakis still spouts his stuff to some dumb-a**es. The “cherry on the top” is that Tsipras appointed Stefanos Kasselakis as his successor, a gay man from Goldman Sachs, who went to America as a teenager and never returned. That shows Tsipras was always a proxy for the bankers. Link to The Guardian (!!!) – but it’s the horse’s own mouth
The one comparison with Germany that holds water, is that the mainstream “Socialist” parties in both countries are 100% discredited, but especially so in Greece because the “Socialists” were massively corrupt and never delivered on their promises. One family controlled the Greek “Socialists” since 1920.
As for AfD, Alternative for Deutschland, I’m even more of an outsider, although I sometimes follow speeches in the Bundestag when it’s fiery speeches by the Die Linke and AfD spokeswomen. Yes, AfD is soft-spoken on the atrocities of Ukraine and other topics as well, but AfD says a lot more than the parties which are 200% complicit in those crimes, or Die Linke which is maybe 80% complicit. But I have to give AfD (and even Die Linke) something of a “free pass” because I know there is no Free Speech in Germany, so AfD has to tread with great care. This year, a German court gave a woman 3 years in prison for merely dancing the Kalinka in public. Some graete democracy they got there, just still has those ugly brown stains. At least one powerful German official is calling for an outright ban on the AfD, falsely claiming they are some sort of Nazis, mainly because the AfD wants to reduce the flow of refugees into Germany. Hell, real Nazis from the Ukraine get celebrated by the German government. Double standard doesn’t begin to describe it ! Is it even legal to discuss a concept like “The Great Replacement” in Germany ? OF course many nations have to be wary of militaristic nationalism and a resurgence of fascism. But AfD is authentic populism, and the elite who want to suppress it are the ones who have ties to real fascism.
Unlike Syriza, I’ve never seen anything to suggest that AfD has connections to the global elite or any foreign power. And that makes all the difference. Oh wait… one more difference: Syriza is dead as a party, while AfD is polling better than ever. #1 or #2. I’d be just as happy if Der Linke were to come to power, but I’ve read the polls and Die Linke has less chance to really change Germany than dos AfD.

Posted by: JessDTruth | Sep 26 2023 17:43 utc | 174

I seem to remember Bhadra

Posted by: Judge Barbier | Sep 26 2023 17:44 utc | 175

I seem to remember Bhadra

Posted by: Judge Barbier | Sep 26 2023 17:44 utc | 176

Just look at how the Greeks folded when they had the debt problem with the EU/Germany and the Left party SYRIZA was in power threatening to leave the EURO
Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 26 2023 16:10 utc | 52
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Well before that, Papandreou canceled a scheduled plebiscite which polls indicated would have removed Greece from the EU. The EU educated Papandreou was persuaded by Brussels to cancel the plebiscite. What are friends for. Oxbridge works the same way.
Christine LaGarde then finished of the Greeks, who reminded the Germans of the ‘London Agreement of 1954.’ Well worth looking up.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Sep 26 2023 17:44 utc | 177

Just look at how the Greeks folded when they had the debt problem with the EU/Germany and the Left party SYRIZA was in power threatening to leave the EURO
Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 26 2023 16:10 utc | 52
———————————————————
Well before that, Papandreou canceled a scheduled plebiscite which polls indicated would have removed Greece from the EU. The EU educated Papandreou was persuaded by Brussels to cancel the plebiscite. What are friends for. Oxbridge works the same way.
Christine LaGarde then finished of the Greeks, who reminded the Germans of the ‘London Agreement of 1954.’ Well worth looking up.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Sep 26 2023 17:44 utc | 178

I’m fairly sure that MK Bhadrakumar at Indian Punchline said the US Govt. did this to ‘ shut the door’ on any possible German Russian rapprochement. Must have been a while ago…
Looks like others share his view.
Frankly considering how Scholz puts up with absolutely everything from the Biden shit show, I can only think the CIA has some really good kompromat on him. Cum ex flavor, perhaps?

Posted by: Judge Barbier | Sep 26 2023 17:51 utc | 179

I’m fairly sure that MK Bhadrakumar at Indian Punchline said the US Govt. did this to ‘ shut the door’ on any possible German Russian rapprochement. Must have been a while ago…
Looks like others share his view.
Frankly considering how Scholz puts up with absolutely everything from the Biden shit show, I can only think the CIA has some really good kompromat on him. Cum ex flavor, perhaps?

Posted by: Judge Barbier | Sep 26 2023 17:51 utc | 180

Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 26 2023 15:50 utc | 40–
Thanks very much for posting that report as it’s exactly the sort of evidence needed to say the last portion of b’s posting is fantasyland stuff. I yet again cite this table of proven nat gas reserves that shows at the current extraction rate the US has an arithmetical 15 years of proven reserves remaining (look at footnote #11 for a more recent total than what the chart says). But depletion rates don’t work out nice and even in a constantly declining slope on a graph. And again, there’s absolutely no movement to deal with what is essentially the peak in gas by developing Alaskan resources in the way Russia’s developing its Arctic, which is one of the reasons behind my reporting on them at my substack.
Some will have missed this article I linked to yesterday about the history of Soviet/Russian pipeline gas, “Power of Siberia” where it concludes that Russia anticipates the eventual return of European use of Russian pipeline gas, which is still being used by key Central European nations. What has greatly increased is European imports of Russian LNG, which will always be cheaper than US gas because it doesn’t have to be shipped as far. The project at Yamal is just the current one; there will be others constructed over the next several decades as Russia’s reserves are about double what the chart reports with more to be discovered.
Clearly between Russia, Iran, Qatar, and Turkmenistan, gas will be the primary fuel used for future development. The Heartland holds most of the future’s fuel and the Outlaw US Empire knows it and can’t abide by that reality.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 26 2023 17:54 utc | 181

Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 26 2023 15:50 utc | 40–
Thanks very much for posting that report as it’s exactly the sort of evidence needed to say the last portion of b’s posting is fantasyland stuff. I yet again cite this table of proven nat gas reserves that shows at the current extraction rate the US has an arithmetical 15 years of proven reserves remaining (look at footnote #11 for a more recent total than what the chart says). But depletion rates don’t work out nice and even in a constantly declining slope on a graph. And again, there’s absolutely no movement to deal with what is essentially the peak in gas by developing Alaskan resources in the way Russia’s developing its Arctic, which is one of the reasons behind my reporting on them at my substack.
Some will have missed this article I linked to yesterday about the history of Soviet/Russian pipeline gas, “Power of Siberia” where it concludes that Russia anticipates the eventual return of European use of Russian pipeline gas, which is still being used by key Central European nations. What has greatly increased is European imports of Russian LNG, which will always be cheaper than US gas because it doesn’t have to be shipped as far. The project at Yamal is just the current one; there will be others constructed over the next several decades as Russia’s reserves are about double what the chart reports with more to be discovered.
Clearly between Russia, Iran, Qatar, and Turkmenistan, gas will be the primary fuel used for future development. The Heartland holds most of the future’s fuel and the Outlaw US Empire knows it and can’t abide by that reality.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 26 2023 17:54 utc | 182

As for AfD, Alternative for Deutschland, I’m even more of an outsider…
Posted by: JessDTruth | Sep 26 2023 17:43 utc | 88

As a quick introduction for those who do not know yet. The AfD stands for laissez faire neoliberalism and far-right populism on steroids. The declared main enemy of the AfD is the statutory minimum wage and social programs of all kinds that hinder capitalists from uninhibited exploitation.

Posted by: Nobody | Sep 26 2023 17:58 utc | 183

As for AfD, Alternative for Deutschland, I’m even more of an outsider…
Posted by: JessDTruth | Sep 26 2023 17:43 utc | 88

As a quick introduction for those who do not know yet. The AfD stands for laissez faire neoliberalism and far-right populism on steroids. The declared main enemy of the AfD is the statutory minimum wage and social programs of all kinds that hinder capitalists from uninhibited exploitation.

Posted by: Nobody | Sep 26 2023 17:58 utc | 184

Here’s a look at the geopolitical theory behind the American fear of being kicked off the Eurasian world-island that led to the Nord Stream attack:
https://www.beyondwasteland.net/p/ordered-off-the-world-island

Posted by: KevinB | Sep 26 2023 18:07 utc | 185

Here’s a look at the geopolitical theory behind the American fear of being kicked off the Eurasian world-island that led to the Nord Stream attack:
https://www.beyondwasteland.net/p/ordered-off-the-world-island

Posted by: KevinB | Sep 26 2023 18:07 utc | 186

It’s has been said many ways and many times, by persons of high political and financial influence over the last several decades that Europe had to get off the Russian energy tit. Everyone has been extremely open about it.
This has always been the main purpose of the war for the west. The destruction of the NS pipelines was part of the senario.
The interesting question is given all that’s happened, will Europe ever get off the Russian energy tit once hostilities are over???
Maybe buying Russian oil and gas will be how the EU makes its reparation payments?

Posted by: Jerr | Sep 26 2023 18:07 utc | 187

It’s has been said many ways and many times, by persons of high political and financial influence over the last several decades that Europe had to get off the Russian energy tit. Everyone has been extremely open about it.
This has always been the main purpose of the war for the west. The destruction of the NS pipelines was part of the senario.
The interesting question is given all that’s happened, will Europe ever get off the Russian energy tit once hostilities are over???
Maybe buying Russian oil and gas will be how the EU makes its reparation payments?

Posted by: Jerr | Sep 26 2023 18:07 utc | 188

NS1+2 story is just a business dispute between USA and RUS. Even Trump said that there will be no NS2 and warned RUS and GER. He was protecting his voters and sponsors (probably). So Biden just keeps carrying Trump’s big stick. Imagine that NS1+2 are operating nowadays. What would be happening right now? USA gas industry wouldn’t be able to sell its gas and its price in the US would be negative. Interest rates are 5%p.a. Many US nat gas drillers are financially weak companies which pay 3% to 5% margin on top of those 5%. Right now USA would be going through another high yield credit crisis like in 2016 with nat gas companies going bust and investors losing hunderds of billion dollars. That would start 2023 bank crisis 2.0 (1.0 we watched this spring) and Great financial crisis 2.0 (1.0 hit in 2008). NS1+2 destruction bought Biden one more year before US economy tanks under high interest rates. What was original sense of EU’s Green Deal? Insulate EU from energy blackmail from all three major suppliers – USA, RUS, Middle East. That was the time when EU was dreaming about becoming a federalized super power. RIP European super power pipe dream.

Posted by: J_Schneider | Sep 26 2023 18:09 utc | 189

NS1+2 story is just a business dispute between USA and RUS. Even Trump said that there will be no NS2 and warned RUS and GER. He was protecting his voters and sponsors (probably). So Biden just keeps carrying Trump’s big stick. Imagine that NS1+2 are operating nowadays. What would be happening right now? USA gas industry wouldn’t be able to sell its gas and its price in the US would be negative. Interest rates are 5%p.a. Many US nat gas drillers are financially weak companies which pay 3% to 5% margin on top of those 5%. Right now USA would be going through another high yield credit crisis like in 2016 with nat gas companies going bust and investors losing hunderds of billion dollars. That would start 2023 bank crisis 2.0 (1.0 we watched this spring) and Great financial crisis 2.0 (1.0 hit in 2008). NS1+2 destruction bought Biden one more year before US economy tanks under high interest rates. What was original sense of EU’s Green Deal? Insulate EU from energy blackmail from all three major suppliers – USA, RUS, Middle East. That was the time when EU was dreaming about becoming a federalized super power. RIP European super power pipe dream.

Posted by: J_Schneider | Sep 26 2023 18:09 utc | 190

Posted by: J_Schneider | Sep 26 2023 18:09 utc | 96
The greatest act of ecoterrorism. Just a business dispute. You’re a crypto Dem. Just come out and say Schneider.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 26 2023 18:15 utc | 191

Posted by: J_Schneider | Sep 26 2023 18:09 utc | 96
The greatest act of ecoterrorism. Just a business dispute. You’re a crypto Dem. Just come out and say Schneider.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 26 2023 18:15 utc | 192

Posted by: Wandel | Sep 26 2023 15:28 utc | 23
“We all need to cut on fossil fuels”
As other commenters have said, Germany is just replacing cheap Russian methane with more expensive (and less green) US LNG.
But who’s we, paleface? Did you know 2022 was the all time record year for coal burning?
https://www.iea.org/news/the-world-s-coal-consumption-is-set-to-reach-a-new-high-in-2022-as-the-energy-crisis-shakes-markets
“Global coal use is set to rise by 1.2% in 2022, surpassing 8 billion tonnes in a single year for the first time and eclipsing the previous record set in 2013, according to Coal 2022, the IEA’s latest annual market report on the sector. Based on current market trends, the report forecasts that coal consumption will then remain flat at that level through 2025 as declines in mature markets are offset by continued robust demand in emerging Asian economies. This means coal will continue to be the global energy system’s largest single source of carbon dioxide emissions by far.”
declines in mature markets are offset by continued robust demand in emerging Asian economies
In other words, China will burn lots of coal to make car batteries, solar panels, wind turbines and heat pumps to sell to the West. And we’ll all say that’s Green.
What about that other fossil fuel we’re not buying from Russia, oil?
https://www.iea.org/reports/oil-market-report-august-2023
“World oil demand is scaling record highs, boosted by strong summer air travel, increased oil use in power generation and surging Chinese petrochemical activity. Global oil demand is set to expand by 2.2 mb/d to 102.2 mb/d in 2023, with China accounting for more than 70% of growth.”
Basically we in Europe are paying through the nose while China fills her boots with cheap energy, which she uses to corner the market in solar panels, batteries and electric cars. I knew the #2 and #3 UK electric cars were Chinese (MG and Polestar), but I didn’t realise the Tesla 3s (#1) came in from a Chinese plant as well.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Sep 26 2023 18:17 utc | 193

Posted by: Wandel | Sep 26 2023 15:28 utc | 23
“We all need to cut on fossil fuels”
As other commenters have said, Germany is just replacing cheap Russian methane with more expensive (and less green) US LNG.
But who’s we, paleface? Did you know 2022 was the all time record year for coal burning?
https://www.iea.org/news/the-world-s-coal-consumption-is-set-to-reach-a-new-high-in-2022-as-the-energy-crisis-shakes-markets
“Global coal use is set to rise by 1.2% in 2022, surpassing 8 billion tonnes in a single year for the first time and eclipsing the previous record set in 2013, according to Coal 2022, the IEA’s latest annual market report on the sector. Based on current market trends, the report forecasts that coal consumption will then remain flat at that level through 2025 as declines in mature markets are offset by continued robust demand in emerging Asian economies. This means coal will continue to be the global energy system’s largest single source of carbon dioxide emissions by far.”
declines in mature markets are offset by continued robust demand in emerging Asian economies
In other words, China will burn lots of coal to make car batteries, solar panels, wind turbines and heat pumps to sell to the West. And we’ll all say that’s Green.
What about that other fossil fuel we’re not buying from Russia, oil?
https://www.iea.org/reports/oil-market-report-august-2023
“World oil demand is scaling record highs, boosted by strong summer air travel, increased oil use in power generation and surging Chinese petrochemical activity. Global oil demand is set to expand by 2.2 mb/d to 102.2 mb/d in 2023, with China accounting for more than 70% of growth.”
Basically we in Europe are paying through the nose while China fills her boots with cheap energy, which she uses to corner the market in solar panels, batteries and electric cars. I knew the #2 and #3 UK electric cars were Chinese (MG and Polestar), but I didn’t realise the Tesla 3s (#1) came in from a Chinese plant as well.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Sep 26 2023 18:17 utc | 194

Posted by: Ciaran | Sep 26 2023 16:58 utc | 77
Pauling won the Nobel for the nature of the chemical bond, not for Vitamin C. He was also in competion for finding the structure of DNA, beaten out by Watson and Crick.
The Europeans will need to take their vitamin C and Zinc, as well as vitamin D this winter, though. Pauling was a great advocate of vitamin C for general health, apparently, not just cold viruses.

Posted by: Blue Dotterel | Sep 26 2023 18:24 utc | 195

Posted by: Ciaran | Sep 26 2023 16:58 utc | 77
Pauling won the Nobel for the nature of the chemical bond, not for Vitamin C. He was also in competion for finding the structure of DNA, beaten out by Watson and Crick.
The Europeans will need to take their vitamin C and Zinc, as well as vitamin D this winter, though. Pauling was a great advocate of vitamin C for general health, apparently, not just cold viruses.

Posted by: Blue Dotterel | Sep 26 2023 18:24 utc | 196

Exploding NS2 was not intended to stop the war in Ukraine.
True, but perhaps seen through the wrong end of the telescope.
We can also conclude from SyHersh’s article that the war in Ukraine was started so that NS2 could be blown up (without protest in Europe).
Nobody want to know in Germany?
Yes, nobody but…..AfD.
AfD is asking WoDonIt and the good others questions and working hard for many years. For exemple filing a motion in Bundestag in 2020

“Protection against the restriction of the Federal Republic of Germany’s political freedom of decision by sanctions imposed by foreign states, especially against the background of sanctions against the Nord Stream Baltic Sea pipeline”.
Schutz vor der Beschränkung der politischen Entscheidungsfreiheit der Bundesrepublik Deutschland durch Sanktionen fremder Staaten, insbesondere vor dem Hintergrund von Sanktionen gegen die Ostsee-Pipeline Nord Stream“
https://www.bundestag.de/dokumente/textarchiv/2020/kw47-de-nord-stream-804244

No more choice for Germany. Blow up your own political “Elite” by voting AfD in.
Even Without Spell on it.
Just as NS2.
Blowin’ it in the wind
****
If the project to blow NS2 was presented so early to the Biden team, do you really think that the general project doesn’t date from well before his “election”?

Posted by: La Bastille | Sep 26 2023 18:25 utc | 197

Exploding NS2 was not intended to stop the war in Ukraine.
True, but perhaps seen through the wrong end of the telescope.
We can also conclude from SyHersh’s article that the war in Ukraine was started so that NS2 could be blown up (without protest in Europe).
Nobody want to know in Germany?
Yes, nobody but…..AfD.
AfD is asking WoDonIt and the good others questions and working hard for many years. For exemple filing a motion in Bundestag in 2020

“Protection against the restriction of the Federal Republic of Germany’s political freedom of decision by sanctions imposed by foreign states, especially against the background of sanctions against the Nord Stream Baltic Sea pipeline”.
Schutz vor der Beschränkung der politischen Entscheidungsfreiheit der Bundesrepublik Deutschland durch Sanktionen fremder Staaten, insbesondere vor dem Hintergrund von Sanktionen gegen die Ostsee-Pipeline Nord Stream“
https://www.bundestag.de/dokumente/textarchiv/2020/kw47-de-nord-stream-804244

No more choice for Germany. Blow up your own political “Elite” by voting AfD in.
Even Without Spell on it.
Just as NS2.
Blowin’ it in the wind
****
If the project to blow NS2 was presented so early to the Biden team, do you really think that the general project doesn’t date from well before his “election”?

Posted by: La Bastille | Sep 26 2023 18:25 utc | 198

Posted in wrong thread should be here. Sorry
Exceot the EU was already (before the demwnted oipe bomber did NS2) dependant on resonably priced energy from Russia. Its the only reason Ger was able to become a manufaturing giant. No? Am i wrong here?

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Sep 26 2023 18:32 utc | 199

Posted in wrong thread should be here. Sorry
Exceot the EU was already (before the demwnted oipe bomber did NS2) dependant on resonably priced energy from Russia. Its the only reason Ger was able to become a manufaturing giant. No? Am i wrong here?

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Sep 26 2023 18:32 utc | 200