Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
September 2, 2023
France Can Only Be An Independent Power If It Learns To Push Back

The AUKUS deal was an illogical strategic submission of Australia as it will bankrupt the country by buying U.S. nuclear submarines. They are only nominally for Australia's security but will stay at least informally under U.S. command.

A major point of the deal was that it screwed France which had a big contract with Australia to build conventional submarines for it. The French Foreign Minister said it was "a stab in the back". France wasn't even informed of the deal but learned of it from the press.

That the U.S. would screw France, a big European NATO ally, for its own political and economic purpose is not necessarily unprecedented, but to do it as publicly and open as the AUKUS deal did should have been a big wake-up call.

Unfortunately the French President Macron and his government went back to sleep and gave the U.S. the opportunity to screw France again.

It did so with AFRICOM, the U.S. instrument to undermine African countries through military 'cooperation'.

France has big interest in Africa where some of its former colonies, Françafrique, are bound to it by using a currency, the CFA Franc, that is solely under French government control.


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The U.S. used its training of African officer to subtly find and train people it could work with. An astonishing number of these officer were later involved in coups which often turned out to be anti-French and pro-American:

[S]ince 2008 U.S.-trained officers have attempted at least nine coups, and succeeded in at least eight in five West African countries alone: Three times in Burkina Faso; three times in Mali; and once each in Guinea, Mauritania, and the Gambia.

U.S. training and support to the region flows through the State Department and Africa Command, an arm of the Department of Defense, in charge of military operations across the continent.

Since the above was written Niger has followed:

Brig. Gen Moussa Barmou, the American-trained commander of the Nigerien special operations forces, beamed as he embraced a senior U.S. general visiting the country’s $100 million, Washington-funded drone base in June.

Six weeks later, Barmou helped oust Niger’s democratically elected president.

For U.S. military officers and diplomats, it’s become an all-too-familiar — and deeply frustrating — story.

Niger is one of several West African countries where U.S. military-trained officers have seized control since 2021, including Burkina Faso, Guinea, and Mali. Some coup leaders have had close relationships with their American trainers, whose mentorship included lessons on safeguarding democracy and human rights along with military tactics.

Ohh – please spare me the 'safeguarding democracy' crocodile tears. They are really over the top. The U.S. has a big military base in Niger and that, and the influence it brings with it, is all that counts.

After the coup the French military contingent in Niger and its ambassador were told to leave while the big U.S. drone base is likely to stay.

Is that a bad outcome for the U.S. or the result of a plan?

The U.S. has strategic interests in Africa and, as the former RAND and CIA analyst and senior fellow of the Atlantic Council Michael Shurkin writes, it wants France to move out:

I have cheered French efforts to help the countries of the Sahel — most notably Burkina Faso, Mali and Niger — to defend themselves against jihadist insurgencies affiliated with Al Qa’eda or the Islamic State.

And yet, the only reasonable conclusion to draw now is that France should close its bases and go.

The problem, as has been made clear by recent events in Niger, is that whatever France does, good or bad, provokes an allergic reaction from populations long conditioned to be suspicious of French motives and assume the worst.

Whether this anti-French sentiment is fair or not is entirely beside the point. Ties with France have now become a kiss of death for African governments — a phenomenon demonstrated by the fate of Niger’s President Mohamed Bazoum.

Oh well. Who has created Al Qa’eda and the Islamic State? Who has moved them from west-Asia into Africa?

Yes, France has kept some of its colonial bad habits and influences and some people really do hate it for that. But who's propaganda has pushed them into that direction?

The plan is obvious. France has to be pushed out so the U.S. can walk in:

Meanwhile, the threat of Russia filling the vacuum is overstated and should not justify [France's] further involvement. Indeed, part of of Russia’s appeal is that many Africans see it as a sort of anti-France. And the less France lives “rent-free” in the popular imagination, the less Russia’s symbolic appeal will become.

Another part of Russia’s draw is that some African governments, Mali among them, are frustrated by France’s reticence to assist them in a strategy that all too often involves targeting certain ethnic communities — above all Fulanis but also Arabs and Tuaregs. And if that’s what they want help for, then France and other Western powers are right to refuse.

The fact that the U.S. and other European partners like Germany don’t provoke the same reaction does provide them an opening, a way to help fill the vacuum to keep Russia out and help African states defend themselves. But that will require them to care, and to exercise a greater degree of creativity than they have shown thus far.

It will also mean that France will have to trust them in its former Empire. This was a stumbling block as late as the 1990s, but at this point, Paris is ready.

And, really, it has no choice.

Poor France. It is told to leave and let the U.S. take over its former colonies. It has no choice.

It took a long time for the French to wake up to that plan. But it is finally sinking in. The leading French geopolitical magazine, Conflits, discusses the Shurkin piece and asks:

Pourquoi l’Amérique veut-elle chasser la France d’Afrique ?
Why does America want to drive France out of Africa?

It concludes correctly:

Americans want to sacrifice the French presence to replace and sustain them.

Since France rejected the U.S. invasion of Iraq the U.S. has done its best to deny France any independent international role. The magazine discusses various global places and plans where and how France can reasonably prevent that. It concludes (edited machine translation):

What is at stake is not simply the presence of France in the Sahel or in Africa. It is maintaining it as a global sovereign power or its reduction to a power in Europe. By extension, is its natural relation to be one of the major U.S. dependent democracies, which form a rigid frame, imperial, behind the United States, or will it be able to form a loose alliance in a multilateral framework, a much better position to defend its interests and values?

Without a doubt, America and the Europeans, they need a voice to remind them of the dangers of the respective hubris or of their weakness. Undoubtedly, the world has a need for medium stand-alone powers and for France to find a new balance, helping emerging nations, supporting them without stifling the fragile states and avoiding the logic of direct confrontations between the blocks.

I agree. An independent multilateral France with global influence will be good for balancing the world.

But to reach and stay in that place France needs to counter further U.S. plans to push it out from where the U.S. wants to be.

Will France finally learn how to do that?

Comments

A pox on both their houses.
Reminds me of the scramble for colonies that led to World War I.

Posted by: bart | Sep 2 2023 17:19 utc | 1

A pox on both their houses.
Reminds me of the scramble for colonies that led to World War I.

Posted by: bart | Sep 2 2023 17:19 utc | 2

Macron is weak..end of story.Until the French manage to push him and his Jewish backers out, France will be submerged by 3d worlders and probably go down the drain…

Posted by: pyrrhus | Sep 2 2023 17:21 utc | 3

Macron is weak..end of story.Until the French manage to push him and his Jewish backers out, France will be submerged by 3d worlders and probably go down the drain…

Posted by: pyrrhus | Sep 2 2023 17:21 utc | 4

that’s kind of a running gag for US to replace France since Indochina at least ^^
anyway, it hardly passes a single month without official or unofficial US-engineered humiliation these last years, and it certainly didn’t stop with AUKUS, did you see the 1+billion Naval group cancelling last month ?
https://www.reuters.com/article/roumanie-france-defense-idFRL8N39Q1ZV

Posted by: rototo | Sep 2 2023 17:22 utc | 5

that’s kind of a running gag for US to replace France since Indochina at least ^^
anyway, it hardly passes a single month without official or unofficial US-engineered humiliation these last years, and it certainly didn’t stop with AUKUS, did you see the 1+billion Naval group cancelling last month ?
https://www.reuters.com/article/roumanie-france-defense-idFRL8N39Q1ZV

Posted by: rototo | Sep 2 2023 17:22 utc | 6

France would have to do something radical to demonstrate a radical change of policy, to underscore its desire to change the nature of its relationships with African states. It would, at the least, have to demonstrate that it has abandoned not only its dependence on the US, but also its entire colonial tradition. A good start would be applying to join BRICS and announcing plans to wind down from NATO after Ukraine. Impossible, right? But it cannot avoid multipolar alignment. nothing else says “under new management” better than a committment to partnering instead of dictating.

Posted by: Tom Paine | Sep 2 2023 17:24 utc | 7

France would have to do something radical to demonstrate a radical change of policy, to underscore its desire to change the nature of its relationships with African states. It would, at the least, have to demonstrate that it has abandoned not only its dependence on the US, but also its entire colonial tradition. A good start would be applying to join BRICS and announcing plans to wind down from NATO after Ukraine. Impossible, right? But it cannot avoid multipolar alignment. nothing else says “under new management” better than a committment to partnering instead of dictating.

Posted by: Tom Paine | Sep 2 2023 17:24 utc | 8

Will France finally learn how to do that?

Sooner or later, they will. But it might be too late. France does not care about the independence of countries in Africa, they need to start cleaning up at home:

“Without France, there would be no Mali, Burkina Faso and Niger” – Macron
The President of France, Emmanuel Macron, assured that these countries continue to exist thanks to the interventions of the French army in the West African region.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/61453

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 2 2023 17:26 utc | 9

Will France finally learn how to do that?

Sooner or later, they will. But it might be too late. France does not care about the independence of countries in Africa, they need to start cleaning up at home:

“Without France, there would be no Mali, Burkina Faso and Niger” – Macron
The President of France, Emmanuel Macron, assured that these countries continue to exist thanks to the interventions of the French army in the West African region.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/61453

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 2 2023 17:26 utc | 10

A pox on both their houses. The global American empire hurts everybody except the top few who loot it continuously.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Sep 2 2023 17:31 utc | 11

A pox on both their houses. The global American empire hurts everybody except the top few who loot it continuously.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Sep 2 2023 17:31 utc | 12

Anything that puts an end to the strip mining of African resources by France is a good thing in my opinion! The fact that so much revenue is extracted from that area and into French coffers is despicable.
Quite how the US think they can just roll in and replace the French influence is laughable, given the geopolitical changes that are occurring at the moment. If anything, they will be placeholders during this phase of great transition.

Posted by: Phalanges | Sep 2 2023 17:37 utc | 13

Anything that puts an end to the strip mining of African resources by France is a good thing in my opinion! The fact that so much revenue is extracted from that area and into French coffers is despicable.
Quite how the US think they can just roll in and replace the French influence is laughable, given the geopolitical changes that are occurring at the moment. If anything, they will be placeholders during this phase of great transition.

Posted by: Phalanges | Sep 2 2023 17:37 utc | 14

Good luck in Africa, you’re going to need it. Meanwhile China will continue to do the business that matters while America plays with its drones.A billion dollars for a runway and base to fly drones to keep an eye on the terrorists you created, only America could come up this!

Posted by: Mark A | Sep 2 2023 17:38 utc | 15

Good luck in Africa, you’re going to need it. Meanwhile China will continue to do the business that matters while America plays with its drones.A billion dollars for a runway and base to fly drones to keep an eye on the terrorists you created, only America could come up this!

Posted by: Mark A | Sep 2 2023 17:38 utc | 16

So not quite like Vietnam but kinda. Even the Russian “threat” is there, dominos and all. Here’s hoping Africa can kick both colonial imperial powers out without having to be carpet bombed like Cambodia Laos and Vietnam.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 2 2023 17:39 utc | 17

So not quite like Vietnam but kinda. Even the Russian “threat” is there, dominos and all. Here’s hoping Africa can kick both colonial imperial powers out without having to be carpet bombed like Cambodia Laos and Vietnam.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 2 2023 17:39 utc | 18

What’s happening in Africa seems to be a pattern as the overwhelming majority of all military coups in Latin America after 1945 have been carried out by officers who were educated at School of Americas in Panama(today renamed Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation, Fort Moore, Georgia)

Posted by: On the roof | Sep 2 2023 17:46 utc | 19

What’s happening in Africa seems to be a pattern as the overwhelming majority of all military coups in Latin America after 1945 have been carried out by officers who were educated at School of Americas in Panama(today renamed Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation, Fort Moore, Georgia)

Posted by: On the roof | Sep 2 2023 17:46 utc | 20

I agree that the US empire is screwing France like it’s screwing Germany for its own diplomatic, military and economic benefit but in my view the loss of French influence in its “former” colonies can be attributed to its waning strength and influence. If we look a bit further back in time starting with let’s say Central African Republic one can’t really say it was to the benefit of the US empire because Russian influence increased. The same for Mali. France has had a parasitic relationship with its colonies where all the wealth has been siphoned off to France. This is reaching its end with Chinese trade and influence that provides projects and investments without as much strings attached and are a lot less costly. The French are also know for their arrogance while Chinese are more humble. The military coup in Gabon seems to be a US orchestrated coup pre-empting an organic one. With Burkina Faso, Guinee and Niger it’s not so clear. Mali and CAR benefited Russia. Let’s see how long the certified French stooge Ouatarra will hold out who got his post thanks to direct French “democratic” military intervention when it abducted the Ivory Coast president Gbagbo at gun point and jailed him at the neo colonial kangaroo court called the ICC.

Posted by: xor | Sep 2 2023 17:46 utc | 21

I agree that the US empire is screwing France like it’s screwing Germany for its own diplomatic, military and economic benefit but in my view the loss of French influence in its “former” colonies can be attributed to its waning strength and influence. If we look a bit further back in time starting with let’s say Central African Republic one can’t really say it was to the benefit of the US empire because Russian influence increased. The same for Mali. France has had a parasitic relationship with its colonies where all the wealth has been siphoned off to France. This is reaching its end with Chinese trade and influence that provides projects and investments without as much strings attached and are a lot less costly. The French are also know for their arrogance while Chinese are more humble. The military coup in Gabon seems to be a US orchestrated coup pre-empting an organic one. With Burkina Faso, Guinee and Niger it’s not so clear. Mali and CAR benefited Russia. Let’s see how long the certified French stooge Ouatarra will hold out who got his post thanks to direct French “democratic” military intervention when it abducted the Ivory Coast president Gbagbo at gun point and jailed him at the neo colonial kangaroo court called the ICC.

Posted by: xor | Sep 2 2023 17:46 utc | 22

Just last night I read Pepe Escobar’s latest at The Cradle
No respite for France as a ‘New Africa’ rises
A little bit different perspective from b but additive to the discussion of the geopolitical war going on

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 2 2023 17:47 utc | 23

Just last night I read Pepe Escobar’s latest at The Cradle
No respite for France as a ‘New Africa’ rises
A little bit different perspective from b but additive to the discussion of the geopolitical war going on

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 2 2023 17:47 utc | 24

yup. what if the u.s. bought the niger coup leaders. i heard they are not expelling the americans, just the french. well, we screwed the germans hugely and they are asking, “what else may we do to please you?” looks like the french, too. time will tell, but the west is so sick that’s it so maddening and yet so utterly sad at the same time for those of us that love the country as a whole. i’m not sure how we recover from this rotten, spied upon, manipulated core. maybe rfk jr.

Posted by: polarbear4 | Sep 2 2023 17:50 utc | 25

yup. what if the u.s. bought the niger coup leaders. i heard they are not expelling the americans, just the french. well, we screwed the germans hugely and they are asking, “what else may we do to please you?” looks like the french, too. time will tell, but the west is so sick that’s it so maddening and yet so utterly sad at the same time for those of us that love the country as a whole. i’m not sure how we recover from this rotten, spied upon, manipulated core. maybe rfk jr.

Posted by: polarbear4 | Sep 2 2023 17:50 utc | 26

it seems to me france is experiencing an identity crisis… either it is going to be a servant to the west and let usa bully it around with nato, or it is going to figure out how to have some type of independent identity… as it presently stands, they are just ”a hanger on’… the other missing feature in many western countries is a vision for the future in combo with real leadership… that is sorely missing on both accounts.. it is like they have read from the wef recipe book, or other such numskulls with regard to the future… meanwhile it seems the country and people themselves are quite unhappy about their present state of affairs.. reading aureliun, i get the impression many of the ideas he tries to work out are based off his french nationality, although he speaks more generally..

Posted by: james | Sep 2 2023 17:50 utc | 27

it seems to me france is experiencing an identity crisis… either it is going to be a servant to the west and let usa bully it around with nato, or it is going to figure out how to have some type of independent identity… as it presently stands, they are just ”a hanger on’… the other missing feature in many western countries is a vision for the future in combo with real leadership… that is sorely missing on both accounts.. it is like they have read from the wef recipe book, or other such numskulls with regard to the future… meanwhile it seems the country and people themselves are quite unhappy about their present state of affairs.. reading aureliun, i get the impression many of the ideas he tries to work out are based off his french nationality, although he speaks more generally..

Posted by: james | Sep 2 2023 17:50 utc | 28

oops. posted too fast. well they did buy them. let’s hope niger is taking the money and has a plan to get them out. prigozhen may have promised too much and they may have felt betrayed. in walks uncle sam. but a drone base is never a good thing. too bad..

Posted by: polarbear4 | Sep 2 2023 17:53 utc | 29

oops. posted too fast. well they did buy them. let’s hope niger is taking the money and has a plan to get them out. prigozhen may have promised too much and they may have felt betrayed. in walks uncle sam. but a drone base is never a good thing. too bad..

Posted by: polarbear4 | Sep 2 2023 17:53 utc | 30

good map of French company scrip, b!

Posted by: sln2002 | Sep 2 2023 17:57 utc | 31

good map of French company scrip, b!

Posted by: sln2002 | Sep 2 2023 17:57 utc | 32

Both Macron and his PM demanded the restoration of the previous lackey government(s). If they had more than just an Ecole Politechnique education, they would have at least some smarts to demand the return to civilian rule as soon as possible.
Where do they find these idiots?

Posted by: Choderlos de Laclos | Sep 2 2023 18:03 utc | 33

Both Macron and his PM demanded the restoration of the previous lackey government(s). If they had more than just an Ecole Politechnique education, they would have at least some smarts to demand the return to civilian rule as soon as possible.
Where do they find these idiots?

Posted by: Choderlos de Laclos | Sep 2 2023 18:03 utc | 34

The map is wrong.
Guinea-Bissau, aka Cacheu, was never French: it was Portuguese.
Guinea-Conakry (Guinée) was French.
Azawad, the Tuareg name for their country, is the only real popular movement with an identity. Unfortunately it was hopelessly split in that drawing-room in Berlin in 1888. It covers the southern third of Algeria, the northern triangle of Mali, and northwestern Niger. They were well on their way to achieving liberation and founding a truly native African state about a decade ago but, ironically, the French and Americans brought in the Muslim nutters from destroyed Libya – AQ, ISIS, Boko Haram, etc. – and the terror they wrought drove the governments there to appeal to the French/Americans – which was, of course, the plan.
The Tuareg barely survived the twin assault of the Muslim terrorists and the French proxies, but they fight on.

Posted by: John Marks | Sep 2 2023 18:15 utc | 35

The map is wrong.
Guinea-Bissau, aka Cacheu, was never French: it was Portuguese.
Guinea-Conakry (Guinée) was French.
Azawad, the Tuareg name for their country, is the only real popular movement with an identity. Unfortunately it was hopelessly split in that drawing-room in Berlin in 1888. It covers the southern third of Algeria, the northern triangle of Mali, and northwestern Niger. They were well on their way to achieving liberation and founding a truly native African state about a decade ago but, ironically, the French and Americans brought in the Muslim nutters from destroyed Libya – AQ, ISIS, Boko Haram, etc. – and the terror they wrought drove the governments there to appeal to the French/Americans – which was, of course, the plan.
The Tuareg barely survived the twin assault of the Muslim terrorists and the French proxies, but they fight on.

Posted by: John Marks | Sep 2 2023 18:15 utc | 36

i wish for a delete button to hide my not reading carefully. sry.

Posted by: polarbear4 | Sep 2 2023 18:19 utc | 37

i wish for a delete button to hide my not reading carefully. sry.

Posted by: polarbear4 | Sep 2 2023 18:19 utc | 38

Macron is weak..end of story.Until the French manage to push him and his Jewish backers out, France will be submerged by 3d worlders and probably go down the drain…
Posted by: pyrrhus | Sep 2 2023 17:21 utc | 2
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Chef Macron, like Biden, Schultz, whoever leads the UK at the moment, are all the same. Weak leaders and people with undistinguished pre-government careers.
Exactly the kind of “leader” that the PTB wants in power. Easy to manipulate, able to absorb criticism from the public.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 2 2023 18:23 utc | 39

Macron is weak..end of story.Until the French manage to push him and his Jewish backers out, France will be submerged by 3d worlders and probably go down the drain…
Posted by: pyrrhus | Sep 2 2023 17:21 utc | 2
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Chef Macron, like Biden, Schultz, whoever leads the UK at the moment, are all the same. Weak leaders and people with undistinguished pre-government careers.
Exactly the kind of “leader” that the PTB wants in power. Easy to manipulate, able to absorb criticism from the public.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 2 2023 18:23 utc | 40

Posted by: Mark A | Sep 2 2023 17:38 utc | 8
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Creating the demand to provide the supply is one thing that America has elevated to an art form.
Too bad it is an evil approach to relationships. Like a guy who can only get a girl by using roofies.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 2 2023 18:24 utc | 41

Posted by: Mark A | Sep 2 2023 17:38 utc | 8
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Creating the demand to provide the supply is one thing that America has elevated to an art form.
Too bad it is an evil approach to relationships. Like a guy who can only get a girl by using roofies.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 2 2023 18:24 utc | 42

Always. follow. the money.
Here is The EU Gulf of Guinea Strategy and Action Plan 2022.

…In 2014, the EU adopted an EU Strategy for the Gulf of Guinea, in line with the objectives of the ‘Yaoundé Process’ – the inter-regional commitment between the Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS), the Economic Community of Central African States (ECCAS) as well as the Gulf of Guinea Commission (GGC) signed at the Yaoundé Heads of State Summit (June 2013) to tackle maritime crime in its widest sense. The EU Action Plan 2015-2020 was consecutively launched to guide the implementation of the EU Strategy for the Gulf of Guinea. It is to be noted that a joint staff working document on elements for an update of the strategy is under preparation to reflect the evolution of threats.
As part of the EU’s comprehensive approach to West and Central Africa, a set of Programmes and Projects focused on capacity building, funded through the instrument contributing to Security and Peace (IcSP) and the European Development Fund (EDF) are geared towards implementing the Strategy for the Gulf of Guinea and its rolling Action Plan. At the same time, since early 2021, the EU Coordinated Maritime Presences (CMP) has boosted the collective engagement by enhancing coordination of the existing Member States naval and air assets present in specific areas at a voluntary basis to increase the EU’s capacity to act as a reliable partner and maritime security provider in the region….

And here is MAP of the EU planning new Africa mission [off] Gulf of Guinea

The EU is set to launch a new mission in West Africa in the fall, a German newspaper has reported. The combined military-civilian operation will aim to prevent instability triggered by jihadi groups. European Union member states have agreed to begin a mission in the Gulf of Guinea [off] west Africa, with police and soldiers deployed to Ghana, Togo, Benin, and Ivory Coast, German newspaper Die Welt am Sonntag reported on Sunday, citing diplomats. According to the paper, the mission will aim to train and advise local security forces, help prepare for anti-terror operations, give technical support and implement confidence-building measures in the security sector.
[…]
The EU also wants to counter Russian influence in the region which has been spread through Wagner mercenaries who have supported military regimes in the Sahel.[…] The situation was further complicated for the EU after Mali kicked out French and German forces that had been training Malian soldiers and police.
[…]

diplomatie.gouv.fr sez,

…In reality, the term “CFA franc” refers to three different currencies and is the source of some confusion—and sometimes even the subject of falsehoods

Measure the EUR spreads by CFA Zone.
BJ, BF, CI, GW, ML, NE, SN, TG
WAEMU (XOF)
CG, CF, CM, GA, GQ, TD
CAEMC (XAF)
CFA archipelago
Comoros (KMF)
The EU stands to lose considerable “value chain” advantages, should captured “former” colonies (led by DEFIANT MILITARY JUNTA) take “critical materials” to open market in exchange for everything-but EUR. True or false?

Posted by: sln2002 | Sep 2 2023 18:34 utc | 43

Always. follow. the money.
Here is The EU Gulf of Guinea Strategy and Action Plan 2022.

…In 2014, the EU adopted an EU Strategy for the Gulf of Guinea, in line with the objectives of the ‘Yaoundé Process’ – the inter-regional commitment between the Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS), the Economic Community of Central African States (ECCAS) as well as the Gulf of Guinea Commission (GGC) signed at the Yaoundé Heads of State Summit (June 2013) to tackle maritime crime in its widest sense. The EU Action Plan 2015-2020 was consecutively launched to guide the implementation of the EU Strategy for the Gulf of Guinea. It is to be noted that a joint staff working document on elements for an update of the strategy is under preparation to reflect the evolution of threats.
As part of the EU’s comprehensive approach to West and Central Africa, a set of Programmes and Projects focused on capacity building, funded through the instrument contributing to Security and Peace (IcSP) and the European Development Fund (EDF) are geared towards implementing the Strategy for the Gulf of Guinea and its rolling Action Plan. At the same time, since early 2021, the EU Coordinated Maritime Presences (CMP) has boosted the collective engagement by enhancing coordination of the existing Member States naval and air assets present in specific areas at a voluntary basis to increase the EU’s capacity to act as a reliable partner and maritime security provider in the region….

And here is MAP of the EU planning new Africa mission [off] Gulf of Guinea

The EU is set to launch a new mission in West Africa in the fall, a German newspaper has reported. The combined military-civilian operation will aim to prevent instability triggered by jihadi groups. European Union member states have agreed to begin a mission in the Gulf of Guinea [off] west Africa, with police and soldiers deployed to Ghana, Togo, Benin, and Ivory Coast, German newspaper Die Welt am Sonntag reported on Sunday, citing diplomats. According to the paper, the mission will aim to train and advise local security forces, help prepare for anti-terror operations, give technical support and implement confidence-building measures in the security sector.
[…]
The EU also wants to counter Russian influence in the region which has been spread through Wagner mercenaries who have supported military regimes in the Sahel.[…] The situation was further complicated for the EU after Mali kicked out French and German forces that had been training Malian soldiers and police.
[…]

diplomatie.gouv.fr sez,

…In reality, the term “CFA franc” refers to three different currencies and is the source of some confusion—and sometimes even the subject of falsehoods

Measure the EUR spreads by CFA Zone.
BJ, BF, CI, GW, ML, NE, SN, TG
WAEMU (XOF)
CG, CF, CM, GA, GQ, TD
CAEMC (XAF)
CFA archipelago
Comoros (KMF)
The EU stands to lose considerable “value chain” advantages, should captured “former” colonies (led by DEFIANT MILITARY JUNTA) take “critical materials” to open market in exchange for everything-but EUR. True or false?

Posted by: sln2002 | Sep 2 2023 18:34 utc | 44

It ought to be simple to see the Outlaw US Empire’s goal in Africa as its policy to dominate the world is still #1. But if it doesn’t help the nations it seemingly controls via the military connection to develop, it will have a very difficult time retaining its presence–and given Neoliberal doctrine and its Super Imperialistic methods, helping with development seems extremely unlikely. As I wrote in my article about events in Niger, France was operating a similar plan to that of the Outlaw US Empire in exploiting its former African colonies, which is why France is seen as enemy #1. The Outlaw US Empire’s bullshit over the years has convinced some that it aims to help, but close observers know that’s not the case. The Empire in its relations with Africa acts like a pedophile giving a piece of candy to a child to entice it into its grip. Russian diplomacy has long told Africans of that ploy, but it’s difficult to tell how many have listened. The huge difference in policy approaches by Russia and China are very clear as is their stated reasons. I found Bhadrakumar’s aticle, “Russia inherits Prigozhin’s African odyssey” helpful in filling out part of the Big Picture, although b’s article is more to the point of the actual geopolitical conflict that’s actually ongoing.
What happens in West Africa will depend on what Russia/China/BRICS can accomplish in Ethiopia. Egypt IMO is not the big African question development-wise. The key for Ethiopia and its region is the establishment of peace so greater development can occur, and that’s going to be a huge task given the Outlaw US Empire’s policy of continuing to destabilize that region. We see the failure of the Empire’s policy in Ukraine but forget it has many other projects that aren’t failing, which perpetuates its global danger because it tells the Neocons they’re doing something “right.” It was quite right for b to note what entity brought the terrorists to Africa for that’s how it runs its protection racket. As I’ve written before, the SCO, EAEU, BRICS+, and CSTO focus on anti-terrorism is actually aimed at the Outlaw US Empire for it’s the world’s #1 Terrorist. How those organizations finally craft joint policy to actively combat the #1 Terrorist has yet to be seen but at some point must emerge, and IMO can’t wait much longer.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 2 2023 18:35 utc | 45

It ought to be simple to see the Outlaw US Empire’s goal in Africa as its policy to dominate the world is still #1. But if it doesn’t help the nations it seemingly controls via the military connection to develop, it will have a very difficult time retaining its presence–and given Neoliberal doctrine and its Super Imperialistic methods, helping with development seems extremely unlikely. As I wrote in my article about events in Niger, France was operating a similar plan to that of the Outlaw US Empire in exploiting its former African colonies, which is why France is seen as enemy #1. The Outlaw US Empire’s bullshit over the years has convinced some that it aims to help, but close observers know that’s not the case. The Empire in its relations with Africa acts like a pedophile giving a piece of candy to a child to entice it into its grip. Russian diplomacy has long told Africans of that ploy, but it’s difficult to tell how many have listened. The huge difference in policy approaches by Russia and China are very clear as is their stated reasons. I found Bhadrakumar’s aticle, “Russia inherits Prigozhin’s African odyssey” helpful in filling out part of the Big Picture, although b’s article is more to the point of the actual geopolitical conflict that’s actually ongoing.
What happens in West Africa will depend on what Russia/China/BRICS can accomplish in Ethiopia. Egypt IMO is not the big African question development-wise. The key for Ethiopia and its region is the establishment of peace so greater development can occur, and that’s going to be a huge task given the Outlaw US Empire’s policy of continuing to destabilize that region. We see the failure of the Empire’s policy in Ukraine but forget it has many other projects that aren’t failing, which perpetuates its global danger because it tells the Neocons they’re doing something “right.” It was quite right for b to note what entity brought the terrorists to Africa for that’s how it runs its protection racket. As I’ve written before, the SCO, EAEU, BRICS+, and CSTO focus on anti-terrorism is actually aimed at the Outlaw US Empire for it’s the world’s #1 Terrorist. How those organizations finally craft joint policy to actively combat the #1 Terrorist has yet to be seen but at some point must emerge, and IMO can’t wait much longer.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 2 2023 18:35 utc | 46

Which reminds me – any recent news about Gonzalo Lira?
I am reminded because last time I listened to him he was talking with Pepe Escobar and Brian Berletic and amongst other things they were talking about Macron’s visit to Beijing. Gonzalo referred to Macron as “Rothschild’s twink” and this had Pepe roaring with laughter and replying with “yes, we need to go harder in talking about them!”

Posted by: Ново З | Sep 2 2023 18:38 utc | 47

Which reminds me – any recent news about Gonzalo Lira?
I am reminded because last time I listened to him he was talking with Pepe Escobar and Brian Berletic and amongst other things they were talking about Macron’s visit to Beijing. Gonzalo referred to Macron as “Rothschild’s twink” and this had Pepe roaring with laughter and replying with “yes, we need to go harder in talking about them!”

Posted by: Ново З | Sep 2 2023 18:38 utc | 48

Which reminds me – any recent news about Gonzalo Lira?
I am reminded because last time I listened to him he was talking with Pepe Escobar and Brian Berletic and amongst other things they were talking about Macron’s visit to Beijing. Gonzalo referred to Macron as “Rothschild’s twink” and this had Pepe roaring with laughter and replying with “yes, we need to go harder in talking about them!”

Posted by: Ново З | Sep 2 2023 18:38 utc | 49

Which reminds me – any recent news about Gonzalo Lira?
I am reminded because last time I listened to him he was talking with Pepe Escobar and Brian Berletic and amongst other things they were talking about Macron’s visit to Beijing. Gonzalo referred to Macron as “Rothschild’s twink” and this had Pepe roaring with laughter and replying with “yes, we need to go harder in talking about them!”

Posted by: Ново З | Sep 2 2023 18:38 utc | 50

sln2002 | Sep 2 2023 18:34 utc | 22–
Clearly, one of the goals in weakening the EU economically via the proxy war against Russia was to limit its ability to act imperially in Africa and elsewhere–to remove it as a competitor.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 2 2023 18:47 utc | 51

sln2002 | Sep 2 2023 18:34 utc | 22–
Clearly, one of the goals in weakening the EU economically via the proxy war against Russia was to limit its ability to act imperially in Africa and elsewhere–to remove it as a competitor.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 2 2023 18:47 utc | 52

I have to say that this is the first place I’ve seen that has described the Niger coup as “pro American”.

Posted by: Inkan1969 | Sep 2 2023 18:51 utc | 53

I have to say that this is the first place I’ve seen that has described the Niger coup as “pro American”.

Posted by: Inkan1969 | Sep 2 2023 18:51 utc | 54

What happens in West Africa will depend on what Russia/China/BRICS can accomplish in Ethiopia.
Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 2 2023 18:35 utc | 23

I rather think that the Democratic Republic of the Congo is the key. They have the most remarkable geology were minerals can be collected without hard rock mining.
To the topic of b’s US push into Africa everyone should be aware of the recent installment of the dual American/Nigerian Harvard educated Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala as the WTO’s Director General.

Okonjo-Iweala serves Brookings Institution as a non-resident distinguished fellow with the Africa Growth Initiative in their Global Economy and Development Program.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ngozi_Okonjo-Iweala

Posted by: too scents | Sep 2 2023 18:59 utc | 55

What happens in West Africa will depend on what Russia/China/BRICS can accomplish in Ethiopia.
Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 2 2023 18:35 utc | 23

I rather think that the Democratic Republic of the Congo is the key. They have the most remarkable geology were minerals can be collected without hard rock mining.
To the topic of b’s US push into Africa everyone should be aware of the recent installment of the dual American/Nigerian Harvard educated Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala as the WTO’s Director General.

Okonjo-Iweala serves Brookings Institution as a non-resident distinguished fellow with the Africa Growth Initiative in their Global Economy and Development Program.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ngozi_Okonjo-Iweala

Posted by: too scents | Sep 2 2023 18:59 utc | 56

NATO’s partner countries, France and Germany foremost, are children of a selfish and self-centered Parent, who knows who and when to administer a bare-bottomed spanking to get attention.
American folly in their clumsy foray into the World’s squabbling unwashed countries, ongoing for decades, is slowly but certainly coming to an end as the World Currency counterfeiter privilege ends with over-reaching money printing and military adventures.
The French, like the British, are a sideshow. Perhaps some Americans are wanting to get even for De Galle handing them the burning batton in Indochina.

Posted by: kupkee | Sep 2 2023 18:59 utc | 57

NATO’s partner countries, France and Germany foremost, are children of a selfish and self-centered Parent, who knows who and when to administer a bare-bottomed spanking to get attention.
American folly in their clumsy foray into the World’s squabbling unwashed countries, ongoing for decades, is slowly but certainly coming to an end as the World Currency counterfeiter privilege ends with over-reaching money printing and military adventures.
The French, like the British, are a sideshow. Perhaps some Americans are wanting to get even for De Galle handing them the burning batton in Indochina.

Posted by: kupkee | Sep 2 2023 18:59 utc | 58

The AUKUS deal wasn’t the first time France has been bullied/ tricked into abandoning a shipbuilding contract by its ‘good friend’ the US of A.
3 Sept 2014 — France is to suspend delivery of a state-of-the-art Mistral warship to Russia in protest at Moscow’s continued role in unrest in Eastern Ukraine.
When Uncle Sam says JUMP French poodles ask “How high, Master?”
IIRC there were 2 Mistrals and Egypt purchased them.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Sep 2 2023 19:02 utc | 59

The AUKUS deal wasn’t the first time France has been bullied/ tricked into abandoning a shipbuilding contract by its ‘good friend’ the US of A.
3 Sept 2014 — France is to suspend delivery of a state-of-the-art Mistral warship to Russia in protest at Moscow’s continued role in unrest in Eastern Ukraine.
When Uncle Sam says JUMP French poodles ask “How high, Master?”
IIRC there were 2 Mistrals and Egypt purchased them.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Sep 2 2023 19:02 utc | 60

I’ve been following the demise of the French neo-colonial African Empire (aka Françafrique) for well over a decade and the Americans have been screwing over the French in this theater for a long time.
Taking over the former French foreign legion base Camp Lemonnier in Djibouti in 2002 was arguably the start of this abusive African relationship between Washington and Paris.
The core problem is this; France has been unable to keep total control of Françafrique and Paris has had to turn to the US for military aid more and more frequently over the past 20 years. But by doing so the US has taken over many of the privileges that France once enjoyed in Françafrique.
France can’t save Françafrique but the US can’t take over Françafrique either. These African nations are not simply going to replace one decaying geo-political power for another that is just as bad.

Posted by: Vincent Tayelrand | Sep 2 2023 19:09 utc | 61

I’ve been following the demise of the French neo-colonial African Empire (aka Françafrique) for well over a decade and the Americans have been screwing over the French in this theater for a long time.
Taking over the former French foreign legion base Camp Lemonnier in Djibouti in 2002 was arguably the start of this abusive African relationship between Washington and Paris.
The core problem is this; France has been unable to keep total control of Françafrique and Paris has had to turn to the US for military aid more and more frequently over the past 20 years. But by doing so the US has taken over many of the privileges that France once enjoyed in Françafrique.
France can’t save Françafrique but the US can’t take over Françafrique either. These African nations are not simply going to replace one decaying geo-political power for another that is just as bad.

Posted by: Vincent Tayelrand | Sep 2 2023 19:09 utc | 62

So not quite like Vietnam but kinda. Even the Russian “threat” is there, dominos and all. Here’s hoping Africa can kick both colonial imperial powers out without having to be carpet bombed like Cambodia Laos and Vietnam.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 2 2023 17:39 utc | 9
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Come on Tom, you know we have to fight the Russians, the Chinese, the French, and the Africans in Africa, Ukraine, and Taiwan, so that we don’t have to fight them in the USA!

Posted by: Ed | Sep 2 2023 19:15 utc | 63

So not quite like Vietnam but kinda. Even the Russian “threat” is there, dominos and all. Here’s hoping Africa can kick both colonial imperial powers out without having to be carpet bombed like Cambodia Laos and Vietnam.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 2 2023 17:39 utc | 9
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Come on Tom, you know we have to fight the Russians, the Chinese, the French, and the Africans in Africa, Ukraine, and Taiwan, so that we don’t have to fight them in the USA!

Posted by: Ed | Sep 2 2023 19:15 utc | 64

When it comes to Africa, all we get is worthless and paternalist drivel masquerading as analysis. Apparently, we Africans have no agency and cannot live without another white master. Nevermind that we’ve been organizing for years to end the France-Afrique système of monetary nazism and hegemonic french imperialism. This weak analysis totally skirts over the current rumbles of building a new fédération which would include Guinée, Faso, Mali and Niger that will serve as a springboard for a sovereign United States of Africa as was envisioned by Gaddafi before he was murdered by France and NATO. Should Cedeao and NATO attack Niger, it will only accelerate the process. Apparently, europeans lose all logical faculties when it comes to Africa. Why should we ask the USA to leave first ? You first attack the weakest amongst the hyenas and move on to tougher task… We will not continue to subsidize racist négrophobes who openly call for our recolonisation on French TV (Bolloré-Cnews their version of Fox news) financed by our blood and money. Africans are no longer willing to subsidize the far night in France and Europe anymore. Period. Let them build their white union with baltic nazis, hungarians and poles.
https://twitter.com/HeryDjehuty/status/1697475516482117755

Posted by: Im Lesage | Sep 2 2023 19:22 utc | 65

When it comes to Africa, all we get is worthless and paternalist drivel masquerading as analysis. Apparently, we Africans have no agency and cannot live without another white master. Nevermind that we’ve been organizing for years to end the France-Afrique système of monetary nazism and hegemonic french imperialism. This weak analysis totally skirts over the current rumbles of building a new fédération which would include Guinée, Faso, Mali and Niger that will serve as a springboard for a sovereign United States of Africa as was envisioned by Gaddafi before he was murdered by France and NATO. Should Cedeao and NATO attack Niger, it will only accelerate the process. Apparently, europeans lose all logical faculties when it comes to Africa. Why should we ask the USA to leave first ? You first attack the weakest amongst the hyenas and move on to tougher task… We will not continue to subsidize racist négrophobes who openly call for our recolonisation on French TV (Bolloré-Cnews their version of Fox news) financed by our blood and money. Africans are no longer willing to subsidize the far night in France and Europe anymore. Period. Let them build their white union with baltic nazis, hungarians and poles.
https://twitter.com/HeryDjehuty/status/1697475516482117755

Posted by: Im Lesage | Sep 2 2023 19:22 utc | 66

@ too scents | Sep 2 2023 18:59 utc | 28
Meanwhile, in the Less Than Six Degrees of Separation contest, Okonjo-Iweala’s son Uzodinma is a physician in NYC, and novelist of some talent … and was McKinseyboy Mayo Petebot’s roomie at Haahvud.

Posted by: malenkov | Sep 2 2023 19:23 utc | 67

@ too scents | Sep 2 2023 18:59 utc | 28
Meanwhile, in the Less Than Six Degrees of Separation contest, Okonjo-Iweala’s son Uzodinma is a physician in NYC, and novelist of some talent … and was McKinseyboy Mayo Petebot’s roomie at Haahvud.

Posted by: malenkov | Sep 2 2023 19:23 utc | 68

What happens in West Africa will depend on what Russia/China/BRICS can accomplish in Ethiopia.
Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 2 2023 18:35 utc | 23
No.
What happens in west Africa depends on when Nigeria d/b/a ECOWAS and AFRICOM (d/b/a EUCOM and USAF) decide to assault the rebellious states ML, NE, BF, and TD of the “G5 Sahel,” created 2014 by NATO’s GWOT trolls in the UNSC. Furthermore, they’ve got to offer new incentives to African Union members that have not been “suspended” as well as a UNGA majority to reverse (given RU and CN would veto such UNSC resolution)the scheduled termination of MINUSMA forces. Do you know who is the current chair of the African Union? Do you know whether or not that person attended the Russia-Africa plenary?

Posted by: sln2002 | Sep 2 2023 19:25 utc | 69

What happens in West Africa will depend on what Russia/China/BRICS can accomplish in Ethiopia.
Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 2 2023 18:35 utc | 23
No.
What happens in west Africa depends on when Nigeria d/b/a ECOWAS and AFRICOM (d/b/a EUCOM and USAF) decide to assault the rebellious states ML, NE, BF, and TD of the “G5 Sahel,” created 2014 by NATO’s GWOT trolls in the UNSC. Furthermore, they’ve got to offer new incentives to African Union members that have not been “suspended” as well as a UNGA majority to reverse (given RU and CN would veto such UNSC resolution)the scheduled termination of MINUSMA forces. Do you know who is the current chair of the African Union? Do you know whether or not that person attended the Russia-Africa plenary?

Posted by: sln2002 | Sep 2 2023 19:25 utc | 70

The end result will be even more chaos in Africa. Once the French are out, Africans will learn how to hate Americans, even more vividly than they ever hated France. The Americans simply cannot do better than the French, because that would be against their goals, i.e. exploitation. There is a quite anti-France campaign going on in the Anglosphere and their puppets right now and that is partly because France has a mildly indipendent foreign policy. Something that Germany or Scandinavian countries have not.

Posted by: SG | Sep 2 2023 19:29 utc | 71

The end result will be even more chaos in Africa. Once the French are out, Africans will learn how to hate Americans, even more vividly than they ever hated France. The Americans simply cannot do better than the French, because that would be against their goals, i.e. exploitation. There is a quite anti-France campaign going on in the Anglosphere and their puppets right now and that is partly because France has a mildly indipendent foreign policy. Something that Germany or Scandinavian countries have not.

Posted by: SG | Sep 2 2023 19:29 utc | 72

France brought it upon itself.
The last honourable thing France did in Africa was undermining the genocidal US proxy Ugandan invasion of Rwanda aka Operation Turquoise. Since then, France has been repeating the US/Ugandan lies about Rwanda 1990-1994.
Christopher Black
Habyarimana was murdered by American proxy Kagamé.

Posted by: Johan Meyer (2) | Sep 2 2023 19:29 utc | 73

France brought it upon itself.
The last honourable thing France did in Africa was undermining the genocidal US proxy Ugandan invasion of Rwanda aka Operation Turquoise. Since then, France has been repeating the US/Ugandan lies about Rwanda 1990-1994.
Christopher Black
Habyarimana was murdered by American proxy Kagamé.

Posted by: Johan Meyer (2) | Sep 2 2023 19:29 utc | 74

If you want to understand why Macron’s France seems asleep to the American plan to drive it out of Africa, you have to start by understanding that Macron wasn’t elected.
At least, not any more than Biden.

Macron is part of the plan and part of the clan.
The natural candidate who would have been elected is François Fillon, rather neutral or pro-Russian like Sarkozy and sovereignist as a legacy of the Gaullist party. A far cry from Macron, the enforcer of Anglo-American interests.
Fillon was eliminated by a legal conspiracy just a few weeks before the election, and has been in meltdown ever since.

Posted by: La Bastille | Sep 2 2023 19:30 utc | 75

If you want to understand why Macron’s France seems asleep to the American plan to drive it out of Africa, you have to start by understanding that Macron wasn’t elected.
At least, not any more than Biden.

Macron is part of the plan and part of the clan.
The natural candidate who would have been elected is François Fillon, rather neutral or pro-Russian like Sarkozy and sovereignist as a legacy of the Gaullist party. A far cry from Macron, the enforcer of Anglo-American interests.
Fillon was eliminated by a legal conspiracy just a few weeks before the election, and has been in meltdown ever since.

Posted by: La Bastille | Sep 2 2023 19:30 utc | 76

Let me help you.
SUDAN is not spelled Ethiopia;
ETHIOPIA’s effective BRICS membership occurs 1 Jan 2024;
and
here @ 00:30:00 Interim President Ibrahim Traore of Burkina Faso pointedly rebukes the old guard of the African Union.

Posted by: sln2002 | Sep 2 2023 19:35 utc | 77

Let me help you.
SUDAN is not spelled Ethiopia;
ETHIOPIA’s effective BRICS membership occurs 1 Jan 2024;
and
here @ 00:30:00 Interim President Ibrahim Traore of Burkina Faso pointedly rebukes the old guard of the African Union.

Posted by: sln2002 | Sep 2 2023 19:35 utc | 78

too scents | Sep 2 2023 18:59 utc | 28–
Yes, the DRC is a key player as is the African Union, both of which I omitted for brevity. It’s the sea change in Persian Gulf relations and how that will interact with Horn of Africa events I see as being more strategic. In a way, it’s reminiscent of the Scramble for Africa of the late 19th Century, but the dynamics are much different as Russia/China/BRICS+ seeks to build nations up not keep them down and exploit them. The game is just now emerging from the shadows of the Ukraine and China conflicts that ought to provide more information for us to analyze.
I remind barflies of the link I provided to the eight-volume series on African history published by UNESCO which is here and only takes patience to download.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 2 2023 19:36 utc | 79

too scents | Sep 2 2023 18:59 utc | 28–
Yes, the DRC is a key player as is the African Union, both of which I omitted for brevity. It’s the sea change in Persian Gulf relations and how that will interact with Horn of Africa events I see as being more strategic. In a way, it’s reminiscent of the Scramble for Africa of the late 19th Century, but the dynamics are much different as Russia/China/BRICS+ seeks to build nations up not keep them down and exploit them. The game is just now emerging from the shadows of the Ukraine and China conflicts that ought to provide more information for us to analyze.
I remind barflies of the link I provided to the eight-volume series on African history published by UNESCO which is here and only takes patience to download.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 2 2023 19:36 utc | 80

I don’t see why the fact that there are US trained officers among the coup protagonists necessarily leads to the conclusion that the takeovers of government were US sponsored to benefit US interests by ejecting France.
How does that follow, when there is no evidence of that, at least not for now. And nothing the transition government in Niger has done so far points to any special favors to the US.
In response to speculation in the western media that the coup will lead to closer ties with Russia and Wagner, the transition PM replied in the negative.
We have yet to see how the foreign policy of the transitional Niger authorities will develop. But, we do know that they have the open and firm support of Mali, Burkina Faso and Guinea which are not particularly US inclined. Burkina Faso has just authorized the deployment of a military contigent to Niger. It is doubtful that they would do that if Niger was now leaning towards the US, as a replacement for France, because the three coup regimes have proclaimed a desire for independence and relations on an equal footing, including with France.
Here is a good piece by Vijay Prashad written a bit earlier:
https://consortiumnews.com/2023/08/16/niger-is-far-from-a-typical-coup/
A response on 1 August 2023 by the Niger coup leaders to remarks by Macron: (in French)
http://www.anp.ne/article/propos-de-macron-sur-le-niger-le-cnsp-denonce-le-paternalisme-francais-et-reaffime-son

Posted by: JB | Sep 2 2023 19:37 utc | 81

I don’t see why the fact that there are US trained officers among the coup protagonists necessarily leads to the conclusion that the takeovers of government were US sponsored to benefit US interests by ejecting France.
How does that follow, when there is no evidence of that, at least not for now. And nothing the transition government in Niger has done so far points to any special favors to the US.
In response to speculation in the western media that the coup will lead to closer ties with Russia and Wagner, the transition PM replied in the negative.
We have yet to see how the foreign policy of the transitional Niger authorities will develop. But, we do know that they have the open and firm support of Mali, Burkina Faso and Guinea which are not particularly US inclined. Burkina Faso has just authorized the deployment of a military contigent to Niger. It is doubtful that they would do that if Niger was now leaning towards the US, as a replacement for France, because the three coup regimes have proclaimed a desire for independence and relations on an equal footing, including with France.
Here is a good piece by Vijay Prashad written a bit earlier:
https://consortiumnews.com/2023/08/16/niger-is-far-from-a-typical-coup/
A response on 1 August 2023 by the Niger coup leaders to remarks by Macron: (in French)
http://www.anp.ne/article/propos-de-macron-sur-le-niger-le-cnsp-denonce-le-paternalisme-francais-et-reaffime-son

Posted by: JB | Sep 2 2023 19:37 utc | 82

Even though france is relatively small it got dealt quite a good hand.
Its (more or less) energy independet due to nuclear technology), it got its own nukes, it kept a distance to nato, it got a part of the world that was looking to Paris for a path to the future.
In short: the french leaders of the 20th century acted to keep France an independent power in the world.
When Chirac denied Bush obedience in 2003 and the short lived Paris-Berlin-Moscow axes formed, it seemed as if France was ready to be a counterweight to the anglosaxon dominance and able to form coalitons to keep its independance.
Unfortunately hollande, sarkozy and macron threw it all away.
I think the main failure in the french conception was to think that they needed to take over the EU in order to keep its position. They wanted to use the EU as a vehicle to enforce french interests.
If so, they were oblivious of the globalist influence on the European Institutions.
All the initiatives to build an eurpean army independent of NATO, and all the initiatives to make the EU an indipendent pole in the world came out of france. They lost all the battles over Europe. Maybe they thought that Brexit would finally give them a way to dominate the eu institutions.
It all crushed.
They could have build an axis of francophone countries instead but all they did was proping up corrupt leaders and a tiny elite class in the poorest countries in the world.
Now what are they going to do? Every african leader going to paris will realize within 10 minutes that macron itself has to go to brussels to beg for german money and the us puppets in the eu commission for allowance to do anything. Why would you put your faith in Paris?
If Paris wants its global influence it must get rid of the EU and form coalitions with other powers whenever necessary. Its not enough to send your single aircraft carrier around the world every 10 years or so. Do you think polynesians are impressed by watching charles de gaule passing by every 10 years while china is about to create coalitions?
Conclusion: all the efforts to keep France indepedent up to chirac have been thrown away within 15 years. It wouldnt be too late to reverse course since the basic infrastructure is still there. But Macron wount do it.

Posted by: Orgel | Sep 2 2023 19:45 utc | 83

Even though france is relatively small it got dealt quite a good hand.
Its (more or less) energy independet due to nuclear technology), it got its own nukes, it kept a distance to nato, it got a part of the world that was looking to Paris for a path to the future.
In short: the french leaders of the 20th century acted to keep France an independent power in the world.
When Chirac denied Bush obedience in 2003 and the short lived Paris-Berlin-Moscow axes formed, it seemed as if France was ready to be a counterweight to the anglosaxon dominance and able to form coalitons to keep its independance.
Unfortunately hollande, sarkozy and macron threw it all away.
I think the main failure in the french conception was to think that they needed to take over the EU in order to keep its position. They wanted to use the EU as a vehicle to enforce french interests.
If so, they were oblivious of the globalist influence on the European Institutions.
All the initiatives to build an eurpean army independent of NATO, and all the initiatives to make the EU an indipendent pole in the world came out of france. They lost all the battles over Europe. Maybe they thought that Brexit would finally give them a way to dominate the eu institutions.
It all crushed.
They could have build an axis of francophone countries instead but all they did was proping up corrupt leaders and a tiny elite class in the poorest countries in the world.
Now what are they going to do? Every african leader going to paris will realize within 10 minutes that macron itself has to go to brussels to beg for german money and the us puppets in the eu commission for allowance to do anything. Why would you put your faith in Paris?
If Paris wants its global influence it must get rid of the EU and form coalitions with other powers whenever necessary. Its not enough to send your single aircraft carrier around the world every 10 years or so. Do you think polynesians are impressed by watching charles de gaule passing by every 10 years while china is about to create coalitions?
Conclusion: all the efforts to keep France indepedent up to chirac have been thrown away within 15 years. It wouldnt be too late to reverse course since the basic infrastructure is still there. But Macron wount do it.

Posted by: Orgel | Sep 2 2023 19:45 utc | 84

Two obscure contributions to this really great discussion:
Montreal’s La Presse went to great efforts to translate a New York Times article. Most read in their International section last I saw.
https://www.lapresse.ca/international/etats-unis/energie-propre/l-avenir-arrive-plus-vite-que-vous-ne-le-pensez/2023-09-02/un-profond-vent-de-changement.php
Canadian satire news site the Beaverton re-posted a piece from 2018. “Local fly is certain THIS window is the way out.”
https://twitter.com/TheBeaverton/status/1698047896082657312
From that, “ “We’re all rooting for him, that’s for sure,” said local corner spider Charlotte (no relation). “He’s had some very public setbacks. The mirror incident, those two days he thought a light bulb was the sun, the other mirror incident. But the kid’s got heart and I think he’ll eventually persevere. And if he doesn’t, he knows he’s always welcome to kick back with me in my parlor.””
(I just note the use of Charlotte and kick back in there, that’s all.)

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Sep 2 2023 19:46 utc | 85

Two obscure contributions to this really great discussion:
Montreal’s La Presse went to great efforts to translate a New York Times article. Most read in their International section last I saw.
https://www.lapresse.ca/international/etats-unis/energie-propre/l-avenir-arrive-plus-vite-que-vous-ne-le-pensez/2023-09-02/un-profond-vent-de-changement.php
Canadian satire news site the Beaverton re-posted a piece from 2018. “Local fly is certain THIS window is the way out.”
https://twitter.com/TheBeaverton/status/1698047896082657312
From that, “ “We’re all rooting for him, that’s for sure,” said local corner spider Charlotte (no relation). “He’s had some very public setbacks. The mirror incident, those two days he thought a light bulb was the sun, the other mirror incident. But the kid’s got heart and I think he’ll eventually persevere. And if he doesn’t, he knows he’s always welcome to kick back with me in my parlor.””
(I just note the use of Charlotte and kick back in there, that’s all.)

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Sep 2 2023 19:46 utc | 86

Posted by: JB | Sep 2 2023 19:37 utc | 41
Here is “Joint press release following the official visit to Niger of His Excellency Mrs. Ragnaghnewende Olivia Rouamba, Minister of Foreign Afairs, Regional Cooperation and Burkinabe people outside Burkina Faso and His Excellency Mr. Abdoulay Diop, Minister of Foreign Affairs and international cooperation fof the Republic of Mali (25 Aug) in English.
lesahel.org is the only window that I know of to CNSP transitional government, official gazette, and civil society participation. Bookmark it. tHE nine heads of the G7 are dying to foment chaos where none exists.

Posted by: sln2002 | Sep 2 2023 19:56 utc | 87

Posted by: JB | Sep 2 2023 19:37 utc | 41
Here is “Joint press release following the official visit to Niger of His Excellency Mrs. Ragnaghnewende Olivia Rouamba, Minister of Foreign Afairs, Regional Cooperation and Burkinabe people outside Burkina Faso and His Excellency Mr. Abdoulay Diop, Minister of Foreign Affairs and international cooperation fof the Republic of Mali (25 Aug) in English.
lesahel.org is the only window that I know of to CNSP transitional government, official gazette, and civil society participation. Bookmark it. tHE nine heads of the G7 are dying to foment chaos where none exists.

Posted by: sln2002 | Sep 2 2023 19:56 utc | 88

one of the goals in weakening the EU
Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 2 2023 18:47 utc | 26
WHOSE goal is that? And how taf does that one “goal” inform the independence of African popular opinion and political sovereignty? Surely you’ve read all eight volumes of UNESCO’s history of Africa—which volume describes Africans’ history of Africa?

Posted by: sln2002 | Sep 2 2023 20:05 utc | 89

one of the goals in weakening the EU
Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 2 2023 18:47 utc | 26
WHOSE goal is that? And how taf does that one “goal” inform the independence of African popular opinion and political sovereignty? Surely you’ve read all eight volumes of UNESCO’s history of Africa—which volume describes Africans’ history of Africa?

Posted by: sln2002 | Sep 2 2023 20:05 utc | 90

France is typical for Western Europe: a country, not in free fall but in managed decline.
I’m confident that if yellow vests and the June “Nahel Merzouk” riots had happened in Russia, the press would be talking about civil war.

Posted by: Passerby | Sep 2 2023 20:05 utc | 91

France is typical for Western Europe: a country, not in free fall but in managed decline.
I’m confident that if yellow vests and the June “Nahel Merzouk” riots had happened in Russia, the press would be talking about civil war.

Posted by: Passerby | Sep 2 2023 20:05 utc | 92

If the French wanted France to become a real country, instead of a US lapdog like Oz, they would have elected Marine Le Pen as their Prez.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Sep 2 2023 20:06 utc | 93

If the French wanted France to become a real country, instead of a US lapdog like Oz, they would have elected Marine Le Pen as their Prez.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Sep 2 2023 20:06 utc | 94

France has nobody to blame but herself: France has exploited African “former” colonies so vulgarly that their people hate anything french now! US is not their first enemy, so the coup leaders will deal with the french first! Coup leaders popularity is not a coincidence!

Posted by: Jimmy A | Sep 2 2023 20:06 utc | 95

France has nobody to blame but herself: France has exploited African “former” colonies so vulgarly that their people hate anything french now! US is not their first enemy, so the coup leaders will deal with the french first! Coup leaders popularity is not a coincidence!

Posted by: Jimmy A | Sep 2 2023 20:06 utc | 96

France can’t save Françafrique but the US can’t take over Françafrique either. These African nations are not simply going to replace one decaying geo-political power for another that is just as bad.
@ Vincent Tayelrand
I was surprised to see that in neither Niger nor Gabon, the secret access from the presidential palace to the French embassy has not been used. Instead the former leaders are being held in-situ inside those presidential palaces. This direct access is well known in some circles and that’s why the mob was trying to crash the security building gate of the French Embassy in Niger.
BTW: Robert Bourgi has not been very active since the defeat of Sarkozy and the affaire Fillon – so FrancAfrique is quasi dead!

Posted by: Yul | Sep 2 2023 20:20 utc | 97

France can’t save Françafrique but the US can’t take over Françafrique either. These African nations are not simply going to replace one decaying geo-political power for another that is just as bad.
@ Vincent Tayelrand
I was surprised to see that in neither Niger nor Gabon, the secret access from the presidential palace to the French embassy has not been used. Instead the former leaders are being held in-situ inside those presidential palaces. This direct access is well known in some circles and that’s why the mob was trying to crash the security building gate of the French Embassy in Niger.
BTW: Robert Bourgi has not been very active since the defeat of Sarkozy and the affaire Fillon – so FrancAfrique is quasi dead!

Posted by: Yul | Sep 2 2023 20:20 utc | 98

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Sep 2 2023 20:06 utc | 47
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Like the money, the elections are not real my friend. There is no savior politician who is going to ride in on a white horse and save the nation. Some of these countries will have to go through something similar to what the Russians did in the 90s to discover patriotic leadership willing to rebuild the country after the governmental structure has been burned to the ground.
I’ve thought for some time how childlike it is for so many Americans to worship their Presidential candidates like the coming of a Messiah, when whoever gets elected, will inherit hundreds of thousands of bureaucrats who all pursue their own personal agendas over serving the nation and citizens, with no genuine loyalty to the CiC or the Constitution.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 2 2023 20:25 utc | 99

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Sep 2 2023 20:06 utc | 47
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Like the money, the elections are not real my friend. There is no savior politician who is going to ride in on a white horse and save the nation. Some of these countries will have to go through something similar to what the Russians did in the 90s to discover patriotic leadership willing to rebuild the country after the governmental structure has been burned to the ground.
I’ve thought for some time how childlike it is for so many Americans to worship their Presidential candidates like the coming of a Messiah, when whoever gets elected, will inherit hundreds of thousands of bureaucrats who all pursue their own personal agendas over serving the nation and citizens, with no genuine loyalty to the CiC or the Constitution.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 2 2023 20:25 utc | 100