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September 23, 2023
Egyptians Beef Eaters Paid A Special Tax – Money Used To Bribe U.S. Senator Menendez

Yesterday one of the crooks and grifter who are leading the U.S. got indicted:

Sen. Bob Menendez (D-N.J.) was indicted Friday on allegations that he and his wife accepted bribes from a group of New Jersey businessmen on behalf of interests in Egypt, totaling over $600,000.

Prosecutors allege the senator and his wife accepted cash, gold bars and a luxury car in return for assisting the businessmen. The FBI found nearly $500,000 in cash and more than $100,000 in gold at Menendez’s home in a raid last year, allegedly payment for the bribes.

The senator stepped down from his seat as chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee late Friday.

Some additional details:

Democratic Sen. Robert Menendez of New Jersey and his wife have been indicted by a federal grand jury, according to court filings unsealed Friday, with prosecutors alleging the couple accepted lavish bribes in exchange for official acts.

Menendez, 69, and his wife face one count of conspiracy to commit bribery, conspiracy to commit honest services fraud and conspiracy to commit extortion under color of official right. The three New Jersey associates, identified as Wael Hana, Jose Uribe and Fred Daibes, are also named as co-defendants and face two counts. Menendez and his co-defendants are expected to appear in federal court in Manhattan on Wednesday morning.

Nadine Menendez and Hana were friends for several years before she began dating Menendez, according to the filing. A court-authorized search of Hana's cellphone in November 2019 revealed "thousands" of text messages between him and Nadine Menendez, which prosecutors said were deleted from her phone. Daibes, a longtime fundraiser for Menendez, was charged by the Justice Department in 2018 with obtaining loans under false pretenses from the New Jersey bank he founded, the indictment said.

Menendez vehemently denied the charges, but a chorus of New Jersey Democrats began urging him to step down later Friday. Gov. Phil Murphy said the allegations are "so serious that they compromise the ability of Senator Menendez to effectively represent the people of our state," calling for his "immediate resignation."

A copy of the indictment is here. The case looks solid.

Menendez was the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations committee. A previous chairman of the committee, and also a crook and grifter, still sits in the White House.

Wael Hana, Jose Uribe and Fred Daibes seem to have worked for the intelligence service of Egypt. The well bribed Menendez intervened several times to the favor of the Egyptian government.

What is of interest is how the three New Jersey associates got the money they doled out to Menendez, his wife and probably also others. It was a secret tax payed by all Egyptians.

In December 2019 Nada Arafat of Mada Masr wrote a story about it.

How the multi-million dollar business of certifying halal meat imports was monopolized

In Egypt, all imported meat must be certified as “halal,” meaning that it has been procured, stored and shipped in accordance with Islamic law. Obtaining this certificate is a crucial requirement for meat suppliers to be able to access the lucrative Egyptian market.

The Egyptian government licenses a number of “certifiers” around the world whose job it is to ensure that exporting slaughterhouses are complying with halal requirements. And while the certification rules are numerous and complex, they are still tolerable, according to a US-based meat exporter, who said they hadn’t had a problem bringing their products into Egypt.

Or at least that was the case until May 2019, when the Agriculture Ministry abruptly disqualified all halal certifiers eligible to operate in the United States, except for one newly licensed company: IS EG Halal Certified. Five months later, the ministry awarded the same company exclusive certification rights in South America as well, a major source of Egypt’s imported meat.

IS EG remains an unknown entity for many in the market, including to both importers and exporters, as well as to foreign governments. A May report by FAS Cairo described it as a non-governmental company established in November 2017, with no prior experience in halal certification or pre-existing ties to the American beef industry. IS EG only started operations this past May, immediately after the Agriculture Ministry’s decision, the report said.

The company’s first order of business, days after it became the exclusive certifier, was to raise certification fees in North America, translating into millions of dollars of extra revenue, according to calculations made by Mada Masr. The FAS estimates that the price of American beef liver in the Egyptian market rose by about LE13 per kilo (81 cents) following the move.

Once it was made the sole halal certifier, IS EG immediately raised the fees for its services by an astronomical amount, according to Sherif Ashour, a meat importer who has dealt with the firm and imported several shipments through them. Certification fees for one container (27 metric tons) jumped from US$200 to over $5,000 in the US, and from $250 to $1,500 in South America.

In 2018 the total meat export from Brasil and the U.S. to Egypt summed up to some 230,000 metric tons per years. The extra fees introduce by IS EG monopoly sum up to about $25 million per year.

The Egyptian government gave out an exclusive license. The U.S. company used it to make money and to create a slush fund that was likely under control of a Egyptian intelligence service. The money was paid by all Egyptians who ate meat imported from the U.S. and South America.

From the indictment it seems that the bribing of Menendez was the sole purpose of the scheme but the amount of money the company makes is quite a bit bigger than the million or so that has flown to Menendez.

The owner of the company that ran under this scheme is Wael Hana, one the three New Jersey associates indicted together with Menendez. The bribes to Menendez were paid from the slush fund.

Documents obtained by Mada Masr show that the company’s founders are Wael Hana, an Egyptian immigrant to the US, and Antranig Aslanian, an American attorney. Aslanian represented the Egyptian government in a 2016 lawsuit relating to the renovation of a diplomatic building in East Rutherford, New Jersey, which the government lost.

The IS EG website went online on April 22, just days before the government’s decision to grant it certification. It states that “IS EG is the only authorized agency by the government of Egypt to certify halal products for export from North & South America to Egypt and the Middle East,” though it contains little other information about the company.

The phone number listed on the site is registered to a trucking company called Loundes Express. Documents show that Loundes Express was founded by Wael Hanna in 2015. The company owns only one truck, yet its annual revenue is about $30 million. The company’s address is listed as 1047 Anderson Ave, Fort Lee, NJ, which is the same address listed for IS EG and Aslanian.

Who is this Antranig Aslanian you might ask. I am not sure yet but this seems to be a part of the answer.

Prosecutors say that Nadine Menendez began dating the senator in February 2018. They got engaged in October 2019, and were married the next year.

Shortly after the two began their courtship, the senator's wife, who then went by the name Nadine Arslanian, introduced Menendez to her longtime friend, Hana. Through several meetings and dinners that she arranged but that were paid for by Hana or his associates, Egyptian officials would allegedly raise requests for foreign military sales and financing.

In exchange for Menendez's promise to use his position as senator to push through the sales and aid to Egypt, Hana promised to put the lawmaker's partner on his company's payroll in a job she barely, if at all, had to show up for.

IS EG, the company under Hana and Antranig Aslanian, was founded in 2017. In 2018 Nadine Arslanian, probably a daughter of Antranig Aslanian, started to date Menendez. It is possible that she was at that time working for an Egyptian intelligence agency.

With Menendez asking for more and more bribes Hana had run out of ways to pay those. In May 2019 the Egyptian government introduced the exclusive Halal certifier scheme and the money began to flow again. Menendez and Arslanian got engaged in October 2019 and married the next year.

Comments

This guy has been known to be corrupt for many years, perhaps even decades. So why are they hounding him now? Because they want to provide cover for their actions against Trump.

Posted by: whirlaway | Sep 23 2023 14:12 utc | 1

This guy has been known to be corrupt for many years, perhaps even decades. So why are they hounding him now? Because they want to provide cover for their actions against Trump.

Posted by: whirlaway | Sep 23 2023 14:12 utc | 2

Standard corruption. The question is who did this senator piss off to get busted?

Posted by: Goldhoarder | Sep 23 2023 14:13 utc | 3

Standard corruption. The question is who did this senator piss off to get busted?

Posted by: Goldhoarder | Sep 23 2023 14:13 utc | 4

Business as usual.

Posted by: Squeeth | Sep 23 2023 14:16 utc | 5

Business as usual.

Posted by: Squeeth | Sep 23 2023 14:16 utc | 6

They are all in on it. Its the deep state vs. the government/Uniparty. May they all lose.

Posted by: so | Sep 23 2023 14:25 utc | 7

They are all in on it. Its the deep state vs. the government/Uniparty. May they all lose.

Posted by: so | Sep 23 2023 14:25 utc | 8

Catching a politician taking bribes is like handing out speeding tickets at Monza.
If they caught this one, it’s obviously not due to some sudden backbone injection into law enforcement. Someone even more powerful and corrupt wanted him gone.

Posted by: Rubiconned | Sep 23 2023 14:28 utc | 9

Catching a politician taking bribes is like handing out speeding tickets at Monza.
If they caught this one, it’s obviously not due to some sudden backbone injection into law enforcement. Someone even more powerful and corrupt wanted him gone.

Posted by: Rubiconned | Sep 23 2023 14:28 utc | 10

These hypocrites are beyond redemption, and should be put down like the rabid dogs they are

Posted by: Cuffy | Sep 23 2023 14:30 utc | 11

These hypocrites are beyond redemption, and should be put down like the rabid dogs they are

Posted by: Cuffy | Sep 23 2023 14:30 utc | 12

The poor dear! The shame of being bought for mere phinnings and cents! How will the poor pauper ever appear in the league of regally well bought members of Congress who would not pick up the phone for less than five or six million at least.
No great loss for foreign capital relations!
Congress has been well bought for decades – elections are mere illusions of democracy in the US. Basically if a candidate isn’t well bought he/she has no hope of being elected.
He must have really upset someone to be done for a mere trifle.

Posted by: Don Firineach | Sep 23 2023 14:33 utc | 13

The poor dear! The shame of being bought for mere phinnings and cents! How will the poor pauper ever appear in the league of regally well bought members of Congress who would not pick up the phone for less than five or six million at least.
No great loss for foreign capital relations!
Congress has been well bought for decades – elections are mere illusions of democracy in the US. Basically if a candidate isn’t well bought he/she has no hope of being elected.
He must have really upset someone to be done for a mere trifle.

Posted by: Don Firineach | Sep 23 2023 14:33 utc | 14

This is a routine story in the US but in Egypt, which is where the money came from, it has to be a major problem. The economic situation there is dreadful, people are starving and the corruption in this case seems to be directly attributable to Sissi’s military.
A kilo of gold, and there are two, among, it is suggested, several, shown in the photograph is worth close to $60,000, a lot more than the $50,000 total mentioned in the indictment story.

Posted by: bevin | Sep 23 2023 14:45 utc | 15

This is a routine story in the US but in Egypt, which is where the money came from, it has to be a major problem. The economic situation there is dreadful, people are starving and the corruption in this case seems to be directly attributable to Sissi’s military.
A kilo of gold, and there are two, among, it is suggested, several, shown in the photograph is worth close to $60,000, a lot more than the $50,000 total mentioned in the indictment story.

Posted by: bevin | Sep 23 2023 14:45 utc | 16

I would add that it looks as if it was not money that motivated the former Chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee but sex- the lynchpin in the operation seems to have been Nadine and her cleavage.

Posted by: bevin | Sep 23 2023 14:48 utc | 17

I would add that it looks as if it was not money that motivated the former Chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee but sex- the lynchpin in the operation seems to have been Nadine and her cleavage.

Posted by: bevin | Sep 23 2023 14:48 utc | 18

They are crooks and crocks. The latter meaning they’re full of something, usually smelly shit. The funny part is Menendez could have just done it completely legally like the rest of his peers via insider information and stock trades.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 23 2023 14:48 utc | 19

They are crooks and crocks. The latter meaning they’re full of something, usually smelly shit. The funny part is Menendez could have just done it completely legally like the rest of his peers via insider information and stock trades.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 23 2023 14:48 utc | 20

He’s from New Jersey, fer chrissakes! Whaddya expect? New Jersey, it’s where you go for corruption.

Posted by: Jeff Harrison | Sep 23 2023 14:56 utc | 21

He’s from New Jersey, fer chrissakes! Whaddya expect? New Jersey, it’s where you go for corruption.

Posted by: Jeff Harrison | Sep 23 2023 14:56 utc | 22

This is Protocol in the U.S. District of Corruption.
EVERY SINGLE U.S. POLITICIAN IS COMPROMISED, SOME WAY, SOME HOW. THAT IS HOW VOTES ARE SECURED, AND THAT IS HOW YOU GET SHOWN THE DOOR, AT THE CONVENIENCE OF U.S. AGENCIES.
The U.S. Government is run entirely in house, U.S. Corporations write all the Laws, U.S. Politicians are told how to vote.
The USSR redux, with Stalinism front and center.

Posted by: kupkee | Sep 23 2023 15:00 utc | 23

This is Protocol in the U.S. District of Corruption.
EVERY SINGLE U.S. POLITICIAN IS COMPROMISED, SOME WAY, SOME HOW. THAT IS HOW VOTES ARE SECURED, AND THAT IS HOW YOU GET SHOWN THE DOOR, AT THE CONVENIENCE OF U.S. AGENCIES.
The U.S. Government is run entirely in house, U.S. Corporations write all the Laws, U.S. Politicians are told how to vote.
The USSR redux, with Stalinism front and center.

Posted by: kupkee | Sep 23 2023 15:00 utc | 24

Gore Vidal once wrote that one of the few differences between the two parties was that the Dem(ons) were a little more corrupt than the Rep(tilians).

Posted by: lester | Sep 23 2023 15:04 utc | 25

Gore Vidal once wrote that one of the few differences between the two parties was that the Dem(ons) were a little more corrupt than the Rep(tilians).

Posted by: lester | Sep 23 2023 15:04 utc | 26

Great reporting b! But Zelensky’s skim is many times larger and some of that’s certainly shared with Congresscritters. It looks like a honeypot scheme from the get-go.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 23 2023 15:24 utc | 27

Great reporting b! But Zelensky’s skim is many times larger and some of that’s certainly shared with Congresscritters. It looks like a honeypot scheme from the get-go.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 23 2023 15:24 utc | 28

Menendez hid the dough in his house? What an amateur.

Posted by: G. Poulin | Sep 23 2023 15:36 utc | 29

Menendez hid the dough in his house? What an amateur.

Posted by: G. Poulin | Sep 23 2023 15:36 utc | 30

This guy has been known to be corrupt for many years, perhaps even decades. So why are they hounding him now? Because they want to provide cover for their actions against Trump.
Posted by: whirlaway | Sep 23 2023 14:12 utc | 1
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Either that or, look there, a squirrel. Distracys from the Biden crime family.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Sep 23 2023 15:39 utc | 31

This guy has been known to be corrupt for many years, perhaps even decades. So why are they hounding him now? Because they want to provide cover for their actions against Trump.
Posted by: whirlaway | Sep 23 2023 14:12 utc | 1
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Either that or, look there, a squirrel. Distracys from the Biden crime family.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Sep 23 2023 15:39 utc | 32

There are less than a handful of DC acolytes that don’t deserve expungement & jail time.
James Kunstler describes all this Menendez theater best:
“The new science of blobology informs us that political blobs blow up like dying stars gorging on runaway fusion.The blob expands beyond the viable limits of its internal contradictions and implodes in a spectacular vacuum of absurdity. The Washington DC blob’s dire pulsations lately signal that it’s about to blow its toxic endoplasm all over our nation’s capital, drowning many denizens in deadly slime.”

Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 23 2023 15:46 utc | 33

There are less than a handful of DC acolytes that don’t deserve expungement & jail time.
James Kunstler describes all this Menendez theater best:
“The new science of blobology informs us that political blobs blow up like dying stars gorging on runaway fusion.The blob expands beyond the viable limits of its internal contradictions and implodes in a spectacular vacuum of absurdity. The Washington DC blob’s dire pulsations lately signal that it’s about to blow its toxic endoplasm all over our nation’s capital, drowning many denizens in deadly slime.”

Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 23 2023 15:46 utc | 34

Halal Beef? From American factory farms? How is that even possible?
Two links to consider:

https://www.animalsinislam.com/halal-living/meat-industry-offense-islam/

Practices on today’s industrial farms are void of ethical concerns and should be considered inevitably makrooh. A mechanized process has stripped Allah’s creations of everything natural and loving.

“>https://www.agfax.com/2023/04/12/large-explosion-and-fire-breaks-out-at-south-fork-dairy-in-dimmitt-texas-monday-night/


This structure is approx 2,136,973 sq ft and is a total loss. It is devastating for the injured and the lost dairy cows.

A few minutes perusing Google Maps’ satellite view of the Dimmitt Texas area are very enlightening for understanding current American Agricultural practice.
Bon Appétit!

Posted by: too scents | Sep 23 2023 15:49 utc | 35

Halal Beef? From American factory farms? How is that even possible?
Two links to consider:

https://www.animalsinislam.com/halal-living/meat-industry-offense-islam/

Practices on today’s industrial farms are void of ethical concerns and should be considered inevitably makrooh. A mechanized process has stripped Allah’s creations of everything natural and loving.

“>https://www.agfax.com/2023/04/12/large-explosion-and-fire-breaks-out-at-south-fork-dairy-in-dimmitt-texas-monday-night/


This structure is approx 2,136,973 sq ft and is a total loss. It is devastating for the injured and the lost dairy cows.

A few minutes perusing Google Maps’ satellite view of the Dimmitt Texas area are very enlightening for understanding current American Agricultural practice.
Bon Appétit!

Posted by: too scents | Sep 23 2023 15:49 utc | 36

Sorry, the following is slightly off-topic here but I just wanted to notify karlof1 about the publication of several interesting documents he already mentioned in another thread (which I don’t find right now).
The meeting of the Friends in Defence of the UN Charter at the sidelines of the UNGA did produce several documents which have just been uploaded today:
1. Special Declaration on the Negative Impact of Unilateral Coercive Measures
2. Special Declaration on Food Security
3. Special Declaration on Decolonization and Modern Neocolonial Practices
Please don’t abuse this thread discussing the papers; as said, I just wanted to highlight it for karlof1.

Posted by: Zet | Sep 23 2023 15:53 utc | 37

Sorry, the following is slightly off-topic here but I just wanted to notify karlof1 about the publication of several interesting documents he already mentioned in another thread (which I don’t find right now).
The meeting of the Friends in Defence of the UN Charter at the sidelines of the UNGA did produce several documents which have just been uploaded today:
1. Special Declaration on the Negative Impact of Unilateral Coercive Measures
2. Special Declaration on Food Security
3. Special Declaration on Decolonization and Modern Neocolonial Practices
Please don’t abuse this thread discussing the papers; as said, I just wanted to highlight it for karlof1.

Posted by: Zet | Sep 23 2023 15:53 utc | 38

Who are Antranig Aslanian and Nadine Arslanian?
A Google search for Antranig Aslanian brings this up as the first result:

US Senator’s wife under investigation for allegedly leveraging husband’s office for favors – November 18, 2022
WASHINGTON (TND) — The wife of Senator Bob Menendez, D-N.J., who he married in 2020, is reportedly being investigated by federal officials to determine if she improperly received gifts or services in exchange for favors from her husband.
According to The Wall Street Journal, which learned of the probe from sources close to the matter, the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York has begun subpoenaing associates of the New Jersey senator’s wife, Nadine Arslanian.
Prosecutors also reportedly subpoenaed a New Jersey attorney, Antranig Aslanian, who is a longtime friend of Arslanian and has represented Hana.
Mr. Aslanian, who claims to have no idea what federal investigators were looking for when they questioned him, said he has known the Senator’s wife for over 25 years, according to The Journal. He added that the two share a bond since they are both Armenian.

Incidentally, this was published by the Senate Foreign Relations Committee a day before the indictment:

Chairman Menendez, Colleagues Introduce Bipartisan Legislation to Sanction Aliyev Regime, Support Armenians Against Azerbaijan’s Aggression
“President Aliyev has repeatedly shown he will stop at nothing to eradicate Armenians in Nagorno-Karabakh and threaten his neighbors,” said Chairman Menendez. “This urgent bipartisan legislation both solidifies our collective support for Armenians and sends a clear message to the people of Nagorno-Karabakh that the United States will not stand idly by while the Aliyev regime carries out its brutal campaigns of starvation and military action.”
“America can’t stand idly by as brutal violence perpetrated by the authoritarian regime in Azerbajian raises the specter of genocide in Nagorno-Karabakh,” said Whitehouse. “This legislation imposes stiff sanctions that will help hold the Azerbajiani government accountable for its clear human rights violations, while authorizing much-needed humanitarian assistance to Nagorno-Karabakh and the people of Armenia.”

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Sep 23 2023 15:57 utc | 39

Who are Antranig Aslanian and Nadine Arslanian?
A Google search for Antranig Aslanian brings this up as the first result:

US Senator’s wife under investigation for allegedly leveraging husband’s office for favors – November 18, 2022
WASHINGTON (TND) — The wife of Senator Bob Menendez, D-N.J., who he married in 2020, is reportedly being investigated by federal officials to determine if she improperly received gifts or services in exchange for favors from her husband.
According to The Wall Street Journal, which learned of the probe from sources close to the matter, the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York has begun subpoenaing associates of the New Jersey senator’s wife, Nadine Arslanian.
Prosecutors also reportedly subpoenaed a New Jersey attorney, Antranig Aslanian, who is a longtime friend of Arslanian and has represented Hana.
Mr. Aslanian, who claims to have no idea what federal investigators were looking for when they questioned him, said he has known the Senator’s wife for over 25 years, according to The Journal. He added that the two share a bond since they are both Armenian.

Incidentally, this was published by the Senate Foreign Relations Committee a day before the indictment:

Chairman Menendez, Colleagues Introduce Bipartisan Legislation to Sanction Aliyev Regime, Support Armenians Against Azerbaijan’s Aggression
“President Aliyev has repeatedly shown he will stop at nothing to eradicate Armenians in Nagorno-Karabakh and threaten his neighbors,” said Chairman Menendez. “This urgent bipartisan legislation both solidifies our collective support for Armenians and sends a clear message to the people of Nagorno-Karabakh that the United States will not stand idly by while the Aliyev regime carries out its brutal campaigns of starvation and military action.”
“America can’t stand idly by as brutal violence perpetrated by the authoritarian regime in Azerbajian raises the specter of genocide in Nagorno-Karabakh,” said Whitehouse. “This legislation imposes stiff sanctions that will help hold the Azerbajiani government accountable for its clear human rights violations, while authorizing much-needed humanitarian assistance to Nagorno-Karabakh and the people of Armenia.”

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Sep 23 2023 15:57 utc | 40

Senator and chair of the foreign affairs cie.
But a feeble cuck.

Posted by: Webej | Sep 23 2023 15:58 utc | 41

Senator and chair of the foreign affairs cie.
But a feeble cuck.

Posted by: Webej | Sep 23 2023 15:58 utc | 42

Considering all the “legal” ways his fellow Senate colleagues become centimillionaires, this guy is just a low-rent hack and a piker. Surely he must forfeit his seat for that.

Posted by: Cato the Uncensored | Sep 23 2023 16:00 utc | 43

Considering all the “legal” ways his fellow Senate colleagues become centimillionaires, this guy is just a low-rent hack and a piker. Surely he must forfeit his seat for that.

Posted by: Cato the Uncensored | Sep 23 2023 16:00 utc | 44

Lawyers / Law firms were the largest campaign contributors to Senator Bob. Followed by Real Estate interests then Securities & Investment firms. Blackstone is listed among the major contributors.
https://www.opensecrets.org/members-of-congress/robert-menendez/summary?cid=N00000699
Worth a look.

Posted by: bubbles | Sep 23 2023 16:01 utc | 45

Lawyers / Law firms were the largest campaign contributors to Senator Bob. Followed by Real Estate interests then Securities & Investment firms. Blackstone is listed among the major contributors.
https://www.opensecrets.org/members-of-congress/robert-menendez/summary?cid=N00000699
Worth a look.

Posted by: bubbles | Sep 23 2023 16:01 utc | 46

good sleuthing b! thanks!
now if they could do the same for hunter biden and bring down biden on corruption charges, that would be helpful..

Posted by: james | Sep 23 2023 16:01 utc | 47

good sleuthing b! thanks!
now if they could do the same for hunter biden and bring down biden on corruption charges, that would be helpful..

Posted by: james | Sep 23 2023 16:01 utc | 48

I wonder if the USA has a government backed export insurance scheme for beef shipments to Islamic countries. Fertile ground for corruption.

Posted by: begob | Sep 23 2023 16:05 utc | 49

I wonder if the USA has a government backed export insurance scheme for beef shipments to Islamic countries. Fertile ground for corruption.

Posted by: begob | Sep 23 2023 16:05 utc | 50

On a second appraisal, this is more likely using Senator Menendez to get to Egypt’s Power Centers, who have not been fully onside with the U.S. (Corporate) State Department.

Posted by: kupkee | Sep 23 2023 16:09 utc | 51

On a second appraisal, this is more likely using Senator Menendez to get to Egypt’s Power Centers, who have not been fully onside with the U.S. (Corporate) State Department.

Posted by: kupkee | Sep 23 2023 16:09 utc | 52

To be hated for the style of one’s actions, yet leave audiences wholly unsurprised by the content of them, that is American politics. It’s theater, and the people of this country hate being reminded it’s low rent vaudeville instead of opera. Priorities and expectations.
And yes, the more interesting thing is how this threads to who wanted him gone, because you can never be too cynical.

Posted by: titmouse | Sep 23 2023 16:10 utc | 53

To be hated for the style of one’s actions, yet leave audiences wholly unsurprised by the content of them, that is American politics. It’s theater, and the people of this country hate being reminded it’s low rent vaudeville instead of opera. Priorities and expectations.
And yes, the more interesting thing is how this threads to who wanted him gone, because you can never be too cynical.

Posted by: titmouse | Sep 23 2023 16:10 utc | 54

@ titmouse | Sep 23 2023 16:10 utc | 34
yeah.. they are all doing it, but someone wanted him gone, unlike biden who is still a useful idiot..

Posted by: james | Sep 23 2023 16:12 utc | 55

@ titmouse | Sep 23 2023 16:10 utc | 34
yeah.. they are all doing it, but someone wanted him gone, unlike biden who is still a useful idiot..

Posted by: james | Sep 23 2023 16:12 utc | 56

In the olden days, when the wolves were chasing you through the wood, and the horses were already pulling your sleigh as fast as they could, it was standard procedure to throw the least valuable passenger off the back of the sleigh to the wolves so everyone else could make it home.
Some things never change.

Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 23 2023 16:31 utc | 57

In the olden days, when the wolves were chasing you through the wood, and the horses were already pulling your sleigh as fast as they could, it was standard procedure to throw the least valuable passenger off the back of the sleigh to the wolves so everyone else could make it home.
Some things never change.

Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 23 2023 16:31 utc | 58

On a second appraisal, this is more likely using Senator Menendez to get to Egypt’s Power Centers, who have not been fully onside with the U.S. (Corporate) State Department.
Posted by: kupkee | Sep 23 2023 16:09 utc | 33
I think you’re on to something. The corruption is permitted even lauded if it’s conducted for the benefit of day Israel or Ukraine, for instance. Egypt’s fifth columnists have not sufficiently infiltrated the US government for this type of scam to work for Menendez.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 23 2023 16:32 utc | 59

On a second appraisal, this is more likely using Senator Menendez to get to Egypt’s Power Centers, who have not been fully onside with the U.S. (Corporate) State Department.
Posted by: kupkee | Sep 23 2023 16:09 utc | 33
I think you’re on to something. The corruption is permitted even lauded if it’s conducted for the benefit of day Israel or Ukraine, for instance. Egypt’s fifth columnists have not sufficiently infiltrated the US government for this type of scam to work for Menendez.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 23 2023 16:32 utc | 60

The evidence here seems pretty solid. So you should notice that no one is supporting Menendez. All the Dems are calling for his resignation. This is in contrast to Trump fanatics who won’t turn on him when he faces new charges and even lionize him. I wonder why this website isn’t speculating that the “Deep State” is conspiring against Menendez like it did about Trump.

Posted by: Inkan1969 | Sep 23 2023 16:39 utc | 61

The evidence here seems pretty solid. So you should notice that no one is supporting Menendez. All the Dems are calling for his resignation. This is in contrast to Trump fanatics who won’t turn on him when he faces new charges and even lionize him. I wonder why this website isn’t speculating that the “Deep State” is conspiring against Menendez like it did about Trump.

Posted by: Inkan1969 | Sep 23 2023 16:39 utc | 62

To the cartoon pony fetish troll, the charges against Trump are obviously politically motivated and are intended for show trials to politically damage a presidential candidate. Menendez is an obvious crook caught red-handed using his political influence for personal gain. Two very different things, but a cartoon pony butt-sniffer like you wouldn’t care about that.

Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 23 2023 16:47 utc | 63

To the cartoon pony fetish troll, the charges against Trump are obviously politically motivated and are intended for show trials to politically damage a presidential candidate. Menendez is an obvious crook caught red-handed using his political influence for personal gain. Two very different things, but a cartoon pony butt-sniffer like you wouldn’t care about that.

Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 23 2023 16:47 utc | 64

Is it a coincidence that India, a founding but maybe wavering BRICS member, and Egypt, a new member, have both found themselves on the wrong end of scandals originating from US investigations? Menendez is a known crook, but it seems the investigation has been on hold for a while since the search of his house took place a while ago. The incident in Canada also took place a while ago. As b has often asked in other cases: Why now? Whose next?

Posted by: c | Sep 23 2023 16:50 utc | 65

Is it a coincidence that India, a founding but maybe wavering BRICS member, and Egypt, a new member, have both found themselves on the wrong end of scandals originating from US investigations? Menendez is a known crook, but it seems the investigation has been on hold for a while since the search of his house took place a while ago. The incident in Canada also took place a while ago. As b has often asked in other cases: Why now? Whose next?

Posted by: c | Sep 23 2023 16:50 utc | 66

Zet | Sep 23 2023 15:53 utc | 26–
Thanks very much for those. My note about Lavrov’s speech is on the open thread.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 23 2023 16:51 utc | 67

Zet | Sep 23 2023 15:53 utc | 26–
Thanks very much for those. My note about Lavrov’s speech is on the open thread.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 23 2023 16:51 utc | 68

How is this any different than the billion Biden help over Ukraine that forced them to fire the prosecutor?

Posted by: Jo P | Sep 23 2023 16:52 utc | 69

How is this any different than the billion Biden help over Ukraine that forced them to fire the prosecutor?

Posted by: Jo P | Sep 23 2023 16:52 utc | 70

Posted by: bevin | Sep 23 2023 14:48 utc | 11
“I would add that it looks as if it was not money that motivated the former Chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee but sex- the lynchpin in the operation seems to have been Nadine and her cleavage.”
I saw a photo of her arm in arm with the bribee and my comment is that a thousand dollar dress cannot
hide the fact that she’s as big as a horse.

Posted by: morongobill | Sep 23 2023 16:54 utc | 71

Posted by: bevin | Sep 23 2023 14:48 utc | 11
“I would add that it looks as if it was not money that motivated the former Chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee but sex- the lynchpin in the operation seems to have been Nadine and her cleavage.”
I saw a photo of her arm in arm with the bribee and my comment is that a thousand dollar dress cannot
hide the fact that she’s as big as a horse.

Posted by: morongobill | Sep 23 2023 16:54 utc | 72

This older article in the Washington Post adds new detail to the story:

N.J. Sen. Bob Menendez escaped legal peril once. Can he do it again? – June 3, 2023
A sprawling criminal probe has renewed scrutiny of the powerful Democrat, with attention on the woman he married in 2020
Menendez was 28 years old in 1982 and working for the local school board when he turned on his mentor William Musto, the mayor of Union City, and testified against him at the trial that would send him to prison on corruption charges. Menendez wore a bulletproof vest because of threats against his life.
The son of Cuban immigrants, Menendez was soon elected mayor of his hometown, once called Miami’s sister city because of its large number of Cuban exiles. Next, he was elected to the state legislature and to the U.S. House in 1992, representing a redrawn Latino-majority district. (Since January, the seat has been held by his 37-year-old son, Rob Menendez.)

But a new investigation soon tested his mettle. The probe began with unproven allegations in late 2012 that the senator and a friend in South Florida had patronized underage prostitutes. Menendez denied the claims, which the FBI investigated but failed to substantiate, according to an affidavit filed by an agent.
The salacious details made no appearance in an indictment brought against Menendez in 2015. Instead, the government accused him of accepting private flights, luxury vacations and campaign donations from the friend, the deep-pocketed doctor Salomon Melgen, in exchange for political favors.

One connection through some of the seemingly disparate issues is a Menendez donor and New Jersey developer, Fred Daibes, who has transformed the Hudson riverfront communities near where the senator grew up from a blue-collar enclave into a ritzy home for Manhattan commuters. Daibes received a previously unreported subpoena last year, people familiar with the matter said. More recently, these people said, prosecutors have sought documents related to a London-based investment firm led by a member of the ruling family of Qatar that purchased an ownership interest in certain Daibes properties…
Daibes has ties to the halal meat certification company as well. A lease agreement shows that a Daibes business partially owns the property where IS EG Halal is located. The lease identifies the property’s other landlord as a business operated by the Qatari investment firm, which has been another focus of federal inquiries in recent weeks, according to people familiar with the matter.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Sep 23 2023 17:00 utc | 73

This older article in the Washington Post adds new detail to the story:

N.J. Sen. Bob Menendez escaped legal peril once. Can he do it again? – June 3, 2023
A sprawling criminal probe has renewed scrutiny of the powerful Democrat, with attention on the woman he married in 2020
Menendez was 28 years old in 1982 and working for the local school board when he turned on his mentor William Musto, the mayor of Union City, and testified against him at the trial that would send him to prison on corruption charges. Menendez wore a bulletproof vest because of threats against his life.
The son of Cuban immigrants, Menendez was soon elected mayor of his hometown, once called Miami’s sister city because of its large number of Cuban exiles. Next, he was elected to the state legislature and to the U.S. House in 1992, representing a redrawn Latino-majority district. (Since January, the seat has been held by his 37-year-old son, Rob Menendez.)

But a new investigation soon tested his mettle. The probe began with unproven allegations in late 2012 that the senator and a friend in South Florida had patronized underage prostitutes. Menendez denied the claims, which the FBI investigated but failed to substantiate, according to an affidavit filed by an agent.
The salacious details made no appearance in an indictment brought against Menendez in 2015. Instead, the government accused him of accepting private flights, luxury vacations and campaign donations from the friend, the deep-pocketed doctor Salomon Melgen, in exchange for political favors.

One connection through some of the seemingly disparate issues is a Menendez donor and New Jersey developer, Fred Daibes, who has transformed the Hudson riverfront communities near where the senator grew up from a blue-collar enclave into a ritzy home for Manhattan commuters. Daibes received a previously unreported subpoena last year, people familiar with the matter said. More recently, these people said, prosecutors have sought documents related to a London-based investment firm led by a member of the ruling family of Qatar that purchased an ownership interest in certain Daibes properties…
Daibes has ties to the halal meat certification company as well. A lease agreement shows that a Daibes business partially owns the property where IS EG Halal is located. The lease identifies the property’s other landlord as a business operated by the Qatari investment firm, which has been another focus of federal inquiries in recent weeks, according to people familiar with the matter.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Sep 23 2023 17:00 utc | 74

Posted by: kupkee | Sep 23 2023 15:00 utc | 14
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The “corporations” do what Larry Fink, Mortimer Buckley, David Solomon, Jim Lawrence, Steve Schwarzman, and Jamie Diamond tell them to do. They hand pick the Executive offices and Boards. And … it’s a pernicious thing for 98% of Americans and 99.99999% of the rest of the World. Nothing changes until the influence of these Wall Street/City of London banksters is eviscerated. They have the blood of millions on their hands.

Posted by: NiugelTufnel1 | Sep 23 2023 17:01 utc | 75

Posted by: kupkee | Sep 23 2023 15:00 utc | 14
——————
The “corporations” do what Larry Fink, Mortimer Buckley, David Solomon, Jim Lawrence, Steve Schwarzman, and Jamie Diamond tell them to do. They hand pick the Executive offices and Boards. And … it’s a pernicious thing for 98% of Americans and 99.99999% of the rest of the World. Nothing changes until the influence of these Wall Street/City of London banksters is eviscerated. They have the blood of millions on their hands.

Posted by: NiugelTufnel1 | Sep 23 2023 17:01 utc | 76

It is time to repeal the 17th amendment to the constitution. I don’t know how it got passed in the first place. The Senate became rouge when this amendment took effect. The Senate now only serves corporate interests. Originally the Senate was to represent the States. If there was no 17th amendment Menendez could not have done this.

Posted by: Conrad Wareham | Sep 23 2023 17:05 utc | 77

It is time to repeal the 17th amendment to the constitution. I don’t know how it got passed in the first place. The Senate became rouge when this amendment took effect. The Senate now only serves corporate interests. Originally the Senate was to represent the States. If there was no 17th amendment Menendez could not have done this.

Posted by: Conrad Wareham | Sep 23 2023 17:05 utc | 78

Until the carbon footprint of transporting food from continent to continent is counted and published , it’s totally pointless to talk about climate change.
In England Sunak has ready realised that giving up our beautiful diesel German cars for a travelling firework made by Musk, ain’t going to happen.
Is this why NS2 was blown up.? To fund billionaire intercontinental scams?

Posted by: Giyane | Sep 23 2023 17:16 utc | 79

Until the carbon footprint of transporting food from continent to continent is counted and published , it’s totally pointless to talk about climate change.
In England Sunak has ready realised that giving up our beautiful diesel German cars for a travelling firework made by Musk, ain’t going to happen.
Is this why NS2 was blown up.? To fund billionaire intercontinental scams?

Posted by: Giyane | Sep 23 2023 17:16 utc | 80

Menendez forgot to give 10% to the Big Guy.

Posted by: Gareth | Sep 23 2023 17:45 utc | 81

Menendez forgot to give 10% to the Big Guy.

Posted by: Gareth | Sep 23 2023 17:45 utc | 82

Posted by: Conrad Wareham | Sep 23 2023 17:05 utc | 39

It is time to repeal the 17th amendment to the constitution. I don’t know how it got passed in the first place. The Senate became rouge when this amendment took effect. The Senate now only serves corporate interests.

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The history disagrees with you:

Acceptance of this idea was fostered by the mounting accumulation of evidence of the practical disadvantages and malpractices attendant upon legislative selection, such as deadlocks within legislatures resulting in vacancies remaining unfilled for substantial intervals, the influencing of legislative selection by corrupt political organizations and special interest groups through purchase of legislative seats, and the neglect of other duties by legislators as a consequence of protracted electoral contests.
17th ammendment – historical background

The old system had the same flaws of bribery and influence peddling as the current system. Repealing the 17th would be a rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic exercise that would accomplish nothing,

Posted by: john brewster | Sep 23 2023 17:48 utc | 83

Posted by: Conrad Wareham | Sep 23 2023 17:05 utc | 39

It is time to repeal the 17th amendment to the constitution. I don’t know how it got passed in the first place. The Senate became rouge when this amendment took effect. The Senate now only serves corporate interests.

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The history disagrees with you:

Acceptance of this idea was fostered by the mounting accumulation of evidence of the practical disadvantages and malpractices attendant upon legislative selection, such as deadlocks within legislatures resulting in vacancies remaining unfilled for substantial intervals, the influencing of legislative selection by corrupt political organizations and special interest groups through purchase of legislative seats, and the neglect of other duties by legislators as a consequence of protracted electoral contests.
17th ammendment – historical background

The old system had the same flaws of bribery and influence peddling as the current system. Repealing the 17th would be a rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic exercise that would accomplish nothing,

Posted by: john brewster | Sep 23 2023 17:48 utc | 84

@ Jo P | Sep 23 2023 16:52 utc | 35
as @ titmouse | Sep 23 2023 16:10 utc | 27 notes…..
“the more interesting thing is how this threads to who wanted him gone…” because if they wanted biden gone, they have plenty of dirt on him.. clearly those pulling the strings in the usa political system want menendez gone, or trump – but definitely not biden… yet…..

Posted by: james | Sep 23 2023 17:51 utc | 85

@ Jo P | Sep 23 2023 16:52 utc | 35
as @ titmouse | Sep 23 2023 16:10 utc | 27 notes…..
“the more interesting thing is how this threads to who wanted him gone…” because if they wanted biden gone, they have plenty of dirt on him.. clearly those pulling the strings in the usa political system want menendez gone, or trump – but definitely not biden… yet…..

Posted by: james | Sep 23 2023 17:51 utc | 86

@Petri Krohn | Sep 23 2023 15:57 utc | 20

Incidentally, this was published by the Senate Foreign Relations Committee a day before the indictment:
Chairman Menendez, Colleagues Introduce Bipartisan Legislation to Sanction Aliyev Regime, Support Armenians Against Azerbaijan’s Aggression

Oooh, interesting angle that. Whose interests are promoted by destabilizing Iran’s neighborhood?
The senator should have known better than to cross the Benjamins..

Posted by: Lurk | Sep 23 2023 17:52 utc | 87

@Petri Krohn | Sep 23 2023 15:57 utc | 20

Incidentally, this was published by the Senate Foreign Relations Committee a day before the indictment:
Chairman Menendez, Colleagues Introduce Bipartisan Legislation to Sanction Aliyev Regime, Support Armenians Against Azerbaijan’s Aggression

Oooh, interesting angle that. Whose interests are promoted by destabilizing Iran’s neighborhood?
The senator should have known better than to cross the Benjamins..

Posted by: Lurk | Sep 23 2023 17:52 utc | 88

Probably the bribes were too small, and he didn’t have enough to share them with the important people….And hispanics are no longer the pet liberal class…

Posted by: pyrrhus | Sep 23 2023 18:01 utc | 89

Probably the bribes were too small, and he didn’t have enough to share them with the important people….And hispanics are no longer the pet liberal class…

Posted by: pyrrhus | Sep 23 2023 18:01 utc | 90

james @43
My impression is that the Establishment is concerned that the concept of corruption is gaining too much attention in the American noosphere, so they feel a demonstration of The System fighting corruption needs to be made. I think they feel if the public sees someone (rightfully) crucified for corruption then the population will consider that to be the norm and stop worrying about Biden’s corruption, thinking it will be handled if it is serious. Menendez, being a pedophile Cuban fascist is kinda a liability not just for the Democrats, but the entire Establishment, so sacrificing him to make it look like The System self-corrects and vigorously stamps out all corruption is a small price.

Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 23 2023 18:09 utc | 91

james @43
My impression is that the Establishment is concerned that the concept of corruption is gaining too much attention in the American noosphere, so they feel a demonstration of The System fighting corruption needs to be made. I think they feel if the public sees someone (rightfully) crucified for corruption then the population will consider that to be the norm and stop worrying about Biden’s corruption, thinking it will be handled if it is serious. Menendez, being a pedophile Cuban fascist is kinda a liability not just for the Democrats, but the entire Establishment, so sacrificing him to make it look like The System self-corrects and vigorously stamps out all corruption is a small price.

Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 23 2023 18:09 utc | 92

Amateur hour in New Jersey

Sanctions Czar Senator Bob Menendez charged with bribery…
I read through the 39-page indictment. Menendez and his wife are amateurs in crime compared to the Biden Family.
Posted by: Petri Krohn | Sep 23 2023 0:48 utc | 364

President Biden seems to agree. I found this on Twitter:

President Biden @POTUS on Twitter
Gotta have your kid take the bribe, Bob. Amateur hour in New Jersey.

Unfortunately I only have a screenshot of the tweet. The original tweet may be fake.
***
B believes that Nadine Arslanian was working for an Egyptian intelligence agency. I find this unlikely. From the above Washington Post
article: (Here is a link to an archive version, I forgot to post earlier.)

Thirteen months after his legal near-death, Menendez met Arslanian at his hometown pancake house, according to the couple. After a five-month courtship, he proposed in front of the Taj Mahal in India, he told the New York Times shortly after their October 2020 wedding. It was a second marriage for both. She praised his humor and intellect. He said she had “this aura about her.”
Arslanian, 56, was born in Beirut to Armenian parents who fled the Lebanese civil war and raised her in New York, she said in a 2020 interview with the Armenian Report. She attended New York University. Photos reviewed by The Washington Post show her posing in the years before she met Menendez at a restaurant opening and a fashion show, as well as with cast members from the reality television shows “Mob Wives” and the “Real Housewives of New Jersey.”

I believe Nadine Arslanian is simply a blond bimbo who is using her big tits figure for social advancement. She has a Facebook page that remained active from 2016-2018. The contents is nothing but parties and restaurants. (No wonder the Feds know exactly where and when she met her co-conspirators.) Bob Menendez’s downfall likely originates from her poor moral judgement. People from lower social classes often have lower ethics. In the US, Republican scandals are said to involve sex, while Democrat scandals are about money.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Sep 23 2023 18:20 utc | 93

Amateur hour in New Jersey

Sanctions Czar Senator Bob Menendez charged with bribery…
I read through the 39-page indictment. Menendez and his wife are amateurs in crime compared to the Biden Family.
Posted by: Petri Krohn | Sep 23 2023 0:48 utc | 364

President Biden seems to agree. I found this on Twitter:

President Biden @POTUS on Twitter
Gotta have your kid take the bribe, Bob. Amateur hour in New Jersey.

Unfortunately I only have a screenshot of the tweet. The original tweet may be fake.
***
B believes that Nadine Arslanian was working for an Egyptian intelligence agency. I find this unlikely. From the above Washington Post
article: (Here is a link to an archive version, I forgot to post earlier.)

Thirteen months after his legal near-death, Menendez met Arslanian at his hometown pancake house, according to the couple. After a five-month courtship, he proposed in front of the Taj Mahal in India, he told the New York Times shortly after their October 2020 wedding. It was a second marriage for both. She praised his humor and intellect. He said she had “this aura about her.”
Arslanian, 56, was born in Beirut to Armenian parents who fled the Lebanese civil war and raised her in New York, she said in a 2020 interview with the Armenian Report. She attended New York University. Photos reviewed by The Washington Post show her posing in the years before she met Menendez at a restaurant opening and a fashion show, as well as with cast members from the reality television shows “Mob Wives” and the “Real Housewives of New Jersey.”

I believe Nadine Arslanian is simply a blond bimbo who is using her big tits figure for social advancement. She has a Facebook page that remained active from 2016-2018. The contents is nothing but parties and restaurants. (No wonder the Feds know exactly where and when she met her co-conspirators.) Bob Menendez’s downfall likely originates from her poor moral judgement. People from lower social classes often have lower ethics. In the US, Republican scandals are said to involve sex, while Democrat scandals are about money.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Sep 23 2023 18:20 utc | 94

The indictment also documents corrupt dealings involving arms sales and military aid.
If this brazen corruption is conducted virtually in the open in the US, can you imagine the level of corruption in Ukraine?

Posted by: bill wolfe | Sep 23 2023 18:27 utc | 95

The indictment also documents corrupt dealings involving arms sales and military aid.
If this brazen corruption is conducted virtually in the open in the US, can you imagine the level of corruption in Ukraine?

Posted by: bill wolfe | Sep 23 2023 18:27 utc | 96

‘A court-authorized search of Hana’s cellphone in November 2019 revealed “thousands” of text messages between him and Nadine Menendez, which prosecutors said were deleted from her phone.’
Just in case anyone thinks that deleting text messages on your phone deletes them from the cloud….
Presumably, 10 or 20 years later, this is how the 5 women connected to accuse Brand. The Deep State sifted the records. Coincidence! They all claim abuse at the same time. I wonder if MI6 (or whoever) found some leverage on the women to help “fortify” their courage.
Bear in mind, one’s location is tracked as well. And who is near you, who you hang out with. And as these records are all digital, they are easily fabricated.

Posted by: oracle | Sep 23 2023 18:49 utc | 97

‘A court-authorized search of Hana’s cellphone in November 2019 revealed “thousands” of text messages between him and Nadine Menendez, which prosecutors said were deleted from her phone.’
Just in case anyone thinks that deleting text messages on your phone deletes them from the cloud….
Presumably, 10 or 20 years later, this is how the 5 women connected to accuse Brand. The Deep State sifted the records. Coincidence! They all claim abuse at the same time. I wonder if MI6 (or whoever) found some leverage on the women to help “fortify” their courage.
Bear in mind, one’s location is tracked as well. And who is near you, who you hang out with. And as these records are all digital, they are easily fabricated.

Posted by: oracle | Sep 23 2023 18:49 utc | 98

“…People from lower social classes often have lower ethics…” Petri Krohn@47
Do you really believe this? (Whatever it is meant to mean.)

Posted by: bevin | Sep 23 2023 18:54 utc | 99

“…People from lower social classes often have lower ethics…” Petri Krohn@47
Do you really believe this? (Whatever it is meant to mean.)

Posted by: bevin | Sep 23 2023 18:54 utc | 100