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September 28, 2023
China’s ‘Shared Future’

The U.S. fears that China's growth will lead to a competition between the countries over hegemony on earth.

But China rejects hegemony. No only the one the U.S. is obviously trying to achieve but, more general, also for itself.

Yesterday the Global Times editorial pointed to a new guideline paper issued by China's State Council:

On September 26, China's State Council Information Office released a white paper titled "A Global Community of Shared Future: China's Proposals and Actions." Against the backdrop of the 10th anniversary of President Xi Jinping's proposal of building a global community of shared future, China has introduced the theoretical base, practice and development of a global community of shared future, and points the way toward a better future for the world. Anyone, be they are developing countries seeking to learn from China or individuals from Western countries who are interested in gaining a deeper understanding of China, will find inspiration in it as long as they approach it without biased views.

Human society is now facing a "life-or-death choice:" whether to enter into a vicious cycle of continuous confrontation and division or to seek a path of cooperation and win-win, ultimately allowing more than 7 billion people to have a better life. The whole world is searching for answers. This also confirms the highly prescient and forward-looking nature of the concept of a global community of shared future.

Today's world has become a community of shared future, with countries riding together on a ship of shared fate. A small boat cannot withstand the wind and waves, only a giant vessel can withstand the stormy seas. No matter how powerful a country may be, it cannot dominate the world alone and must engage in global cooperation.

As the white paper says, "This is an integrated world. Those who turn their back on it will have no place in it." In such a world, the true power that transcends time is contained in the silent and subtle ideas, just like the practical greatness demonstrated by the concept of global community of shared future.

The paper is available here.

It is 22,000 words long but quite readable. It is a recipe for a just and equalitarian world that will peacefully develop for everyone while allowing for a diversity of cultures and ideologies. It is thus building on China's decade old concept of a Community of Common Destiny for Mankind.

The most interesting part is probably this paragraph:

There is no iron law that dictates that a rising power will inevitably seek hegemony. This assumption represents typical hegemonic thinking and is grounded in memories of catastrophic wars between hegemonic powers in the past. China has never accepted that once a country becomes strong enough, it will invariably seek hegemony. China understands the lesson of history – that hegemony preludes decline. We pursue development and revitalization through our own efforts, rather than invasion or expansion. And everything we do is for the purpose of providing a better life for our people, all the while creating more development opportunities for the entire world, not in order to supersede or subjugate others.

Other strategic statements by China, like the one issued in 2013 that laid the ground for its Belt and Road program, had been dismissed when they were issued. But the record shows that China acts on such programs exactly as its papers promise to do. It profits from doing so.

Is its thesis in this new paper, that hegemony preludes decline, valid?

Should we therefore trust its claims that it rejects hegemony, not only of others but also for itself?

Comments

By the way, Buddha wanted to escape Earthly existence and therefore neglected it: for him the hereafter was wealth while the present was useless waste land. India suffered from that ancient view too for long but came out on its own, not via a foreign performed C-section with handcuffs on.
Posted by: Antonym | Oct 1 2023 1:43 utc | 380
That is a very inaccurate take on the Buddha’s teachings.
As to the other and many posts, as I keep trying to explain, for me the Tibet business is not nearly as huge an issue as it is for many here. My position is that any sovereignty China could claim is via mouldy old documents made by leaders that had no contact with the people involved. Tibet was never a single country or unitary state, rather a region. The word means ‘Land of Snows’. The Dalai Lama was an office invented by the Chinese, not a Tibetan creation. At some point the Chinese came and took over local administration which had never ever happened before. Fact.
Your problem – all the people piling on -is that your anti Empire view has turned into regarding the CPC as angelic benevolent power which can do no wrong and never bullies others and doesn’t do military conquest like the Evil Outlaw US Empire. But what they did in Tibet puts the lie to that naive faith. So you demonize anyone challenging your false, faith-based Manichean narrrative. I am not making a big deal of it, you are. Shit happens. Get over it.
As to Taiwan: why not a referendum? Russia did it in Crimea and Donbass. Why not Taiwan? Why is this something else I said that is regarded as extreme? And if it is extreme why not explain why without invective hysterics? Or does it also show China’s hypocrisy?
I don’t hate China at all. But I don’t have high regard for their regime based on how they treat religious faith both in Tibet decades ago and of late. I also don’t pretend to understand what goes on, either. Nor do I care all that much like so many of you.
Very strange bunch here…

Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 3 2023 12:20 utc | 801

By the way, Buddha wanted to escape Earthly existence and therefore neglected it: for him the hereafter was wealth while the present was useless waste land. India suffered from that ancient view too for long but came out on its own, not via a foreign performed C-section with handcuffs on.
Posted by: Antonym | Oct 1 2023 1:43 utc | 380
That is a very inaccurate take on the Buddha’s teachings.
As to the other and many posts, as I keep trying to explain, for me the Tibet business is not nearly as huge an issue as it is for many here. My position is that any sovereignty China could claim is via mouldy old documents made by leaders that had no contact with the people involved. Tibet was never a single country or unitary state, rather a region. The word means ‘Land of Snows’. The Dalai Lama was an office invented by the Chinese, not a Tibetan creation. At some point the Chinese came and took over local administration which had never ever happened before. Fact.
Your problem – all the people piling on -is that your anti Empire view has turned into regarding the CPC as angelic benevolent power which can do no wrong and never bullies others and doesn’t do military conquest like the Evil Outlaw US Empire. But what they did in Tibet puts the lie to that naive faith. So you demonize anyone challenging your false, faith-based Manichean narrrative. I am not making a big deal of it, you are. Shit happens. Get over it.
As to Taiwan: why not a referendum? Russia did it in Crimea and Donbass. Why not Taiwan? Why is this something else I said that is regarded as extreme? And if it is extreme why not explain why without invective hysterics? Or does it also show China’s hypocrisy?
I don’t hate China at all. But I don’t have high regard for their regime based on how they treat religious faith both in Tibet decades ago and of late. I also don’t pretend to understand what goes on, either. Nor do I care all that much like so many of you.
Very strange bunch here…

Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 3 2023 12:20 utc | 802

A continental sized, totalitarian country brimming with the yellow horde, Are you guys sure you aint rooting for just another kind of monster ?
https://tinyurl.com/a8894res
More where they come from.
Posted by: denk | Oct 3 2023 5:58 utc | 399
……………………..
No filter on cell phone.
If you follow denks link you will see I said nothing like his characterization
Denk is a shameless liar and troll.

Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 3 2023 12:28 utc | 803

A continental sized, totalitarian country brimming with the yellow horde, Are you guys sure you aint rooting for just another kind of monster ?
https://tinyurl.com/a8894res
More where they come from.
Posted by: denk | Oct 3 2023 5:58 utc | 399
……………………..
No filter on cell phone.
If you follow denks link you will see I said nothing like his characterization
Denk is a shameless liar and troll.

Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 3 2023 12:28 utc | 804

Scorpion
No country is perfect. However some commentary on the two issues raised by you.
One thing that is important is to distinguish between imperialism and strategic acquisition. Yes I know it is very grey sometimes but all nations, whatever their disposition will seek to control key strategic areas, because put simply if they do not, they will not long stay a nation.
For China the mountains of Tibet form a key safety barrier but only if occupied by a neutral or friendly power. Tibet in the hands of an enemy which includes India (or at least India when ruled by the UK) is not a strategic situation that China can tolerate. It would be a bit like Russia occupying Ireland (for the UK) or Canada (for the US).
Taiwan is pretty much the same. China can tolerate it being independent but not if it is part of a western hostile alliance.
A referendum may eventually be the way to go, but realistically while the USA is so dominant in the region, it is not something China can accept. Recall that Japan occupied Taiwan and that could happen again with US support.

Posted by: watcher | Oct 3 2023 13:31 utc | 805

Scorpion
No country is perfect. However some commentary on the two issues raised by you.
One thing that is important is to distinguish between imperialism and strategic acquisition. Yes I know it is very grey sometimes but all nations, whatever their disposition will seek to control key strategic areas, because put simply if they do not, they will not long stay a nation.
For China the mountains of Tibet form a key safety barrier but only if occupied by a neutral or friendly power. Tibet in the hands of an enemy which includes India (or at least India when ruled by the UK) is not a strategic situation that China can tolerate. It would be a bit like Russia occupying Ireland (for the UK) or Canada (for the US).
Taiwan is pretty much the same. China can tolerate it being independent but not if it is part of a western hostile alliance.
A referendum may eventually be the way to go, but realistically while the USA is so dominant in the region, it is not something China can accept. Recall that Japan occupied Taiwan and that could happen again with US support.

Posted by: watcher | Oct 3 2023 13:31 utc | 806

@ watcher | Oct 3 2023 13:31 utc | 403
“Tibet in the hands of an enemy which includes India (or at least India when ruled by the UK) is not a strategic situation that China can tolerate.” Today is 2023, not British India of 1946. Reverse those two country names and you see why New Delhi also doesn’t like a big power close by: 340 km as the crow flies to PRC-Tibet. Beijing is ~2000 km from Tibet’s border.
“For China the mountains of Tibet form a key safety barrier but only if occupied by a neutral or friendly power.” Good, agreement with India. Keep Tibet neutral, unarmed, unaligned – so independent. Like a future Ukraine.
What is good for the Peking duck is good for the Delhi gander.

Posted by: Antonym | Oct 3 2023 15:17 utc | 807

@ watcher | Oct 3 2023 13:31 utc | 403
“Tibet in the hands of an enemy which includes India (or at least India when ruled by the UK) is not a strategic situation that China can tolerate.” Today is 2023, not British India of 1946. Reverse those two country names and you see why New Delhi also doesn’t like a big power close by: 340 km as the crow flies to PRC-Tibet. Beijing is ~2000 km from Tibet’s border.
“For China the mountains of Tibet form a key safety barrier but only if occupied by a neutral or friendly power.” Good, agreement with India. Keep Tibet neutral, unarmed, unaligned – so independent. Like a future Ukraine.
What is good for the Peking duck is good for the Delhi gander.

Posted by: Antonym | Oct 3 2023 15:17 utc | 808

Posted by: watcher | Oct 3 2023 13:31 utc | 403
Taiwan is pretty much the same. China can tolerate it being independent but not if it is part of a western hostile alliance.
A referendum may eventually be the way to go, but realistically while the USA is so dominant in the region, it is not something China can accept. Recall that Japan occupied Taiwan and that could happen again with US support.

Everything you say makes perfect sense and in common sense, practical, realpolitik language. States explain things in ways designed to provoke emotional response; so much so that many have a hard time viewing issues like this dispassionately.
I may disapprove of China’s prejudice against religious faith but I don’t find it upsetting or surprising; it is what it is, and no doubt for practical reasons. Calling it out doesn’t make one a fanatic pro or anti anything. However, taking umbrage at such observations probably indicates overmuch emotional investment. More importantly, painting them as benevolent pacifists is both inaccurate and silly.
Have always assumed China decided to take over local control of Tibet when it did to prevent the Western Imperialists from encroaching given the emergent Cold War between the communist and capitalist blocs. How much the West could have achieved in that extreme and remote region have no idea, but if I were Chinese I wouldn’t want them there either; so to me it’s not a big issue.
But it has been a tragedy for Tibetans on the wrong side of the takeover – which it decidedly was – some of whom I happen to know personally. That said, in all my 20+ years around Tibetans I don’t recall even once discussing the issue. (Later when I visited their exile communities in India, I found their theocratic society decidedly unappealing so, as it happens, am no bleeding heart Tibetophile!)
Thanks for your comment.

Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 3 2023 15:42 utc | 809

Posted by: watcher | Oct 3 2023 13:31 utc | 403
Taiwan is pretty much the same. China can tolerate it being independent but not if it is part of a western hostile alliance.
A referendum may eventually be the way to go, but realistically while the USA is so dominant in the region, it is not something China can accept. Recall that Japan occupied Taiwan and that could happen again with US support.

Everything you say makes perfect sense and in common sense, practical, realpolitik language. States explain things in ways designed to provoke emotional response; so much so that many have a hard time viewing issues like this dispassionately.
I may disapprove of China’s prejudice against religious faith but I don’t find it upsetting or surprising; it is what it is, and no doubt for practical reasons. Calling it out doesn’t make one a fanatic pro or anti anything. However, taking umbrage at such observations probably indicates overmuch emotional investment. More importantly, painting them as benevolent pacifists is both inaccurate and silly.
Have always assumed China decided to take over local control of Tibet when it did to prevent the Western Imperialists from encroaching given the emergent Cold War between the communist and capitalist blocs. How much the West could have achieved in that extreme and remote region have no idea, but if I were Chinese I wouldn’t want them there either; so to me it’s not a big issue.
But it has been a tragedy for Tibetans on the wrong side of the takeover – which it decidedly was – some of whom I happen to know personally. That said, in all my 20+ years around Tibetans I don’t recall even once discussing the issue. (Later when I visited their exile communities in India, I found their theocratic society decidedly unappealing so, as it happens, am no bleeding heart Tibetophile!)
Thanks for your comment.

Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 3 2023 15:42 utc | 810

Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 3 2023 12:20 utc | 401
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If China endorse the national sovereinty concept, it should grant sovereignty to its TW Province,

Whats the scorpion smoking ?

The Han are hypocrites to lecture USAss

Earth to scorpion,
Only the anglo/euro lecture others, no one else does it.
China is only returning the favor,
Our prof of philosophistry never heard of Confucius teaching ?

Its rude not to return a favor.

The scorpion bleats about alleged ‘Tibetan hell’ but studiously refuse to talk about the real plight of the unpeople,.[not my issue, it says]
It champions TW province ‘right to self determination’ but never once call out the west trampling on hundreds of national sovereignty
With talent like this, who needs the Pompass ?

Posted by: denk | Oct 3 2023 15:43 utc | 811

Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 3 2023 12:20 utc | 401
———————–

If China endorse the national sovereinty concept, it should grant sovereignty to its TW Province,

Whats the scorpion smoking ?

The Han are hypocrites to lecture USAss

Earth to scorpion,
Only the anglo/euro lecture others, no one else does it.
China is only returning the favor,
Our prof of philosophistry never heard of Confucius teaching ?

Its rude not to return a favor.

The scorpion bleats about alleged ‘Tibetan hell’ but studiously refuse to talk about the real plight of the unpeople,.[not my issue, it says]
It champions TW province ‘right to self determination’ but never once call out the west trampling on hundreds of national sovereignty
With talent like this, who needs the Pompass ?

Posted by: denk | Oct 3 2023 15:43 utc | 812

Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 3 2023 12:28 utc | 402
—————————-
I grind thru the scorpion’s diatribe holding my nose, so that barflies dont have to.
Connecting the dots, …

Huge population, centralised system, ants like people, likely to endenger a totalitarian, tyrannical monster. !

My summary is exactly what the scorpion intends to say , minus the weasel worlds.
[I really wanna trust the PRC but….
so the PRc LIFTED millions outta poverty, if you say so..]
Since we’r here,
There’s another gem that I didnt bother to point out earlier.,
scorpion

There aint no one targeting the PRC, thats pure CPC hallucination and the chicom are totally brainwahsed about a western threat’

Dean Rusk, state dept

At times the Communist Chinese leaders seem to be obsessed with the notion that they are being threatened and encircled.”
China’s “imaginary, almost pathological, notion that the United States and other countries around its borders are seeking an opportunity to invade mainland China and destroy the Peiping [Peking] regime”.

More great men think alike.
With talent like this, who needs the Pompass ?
Moral of the story,
When in a hole, stop digging !

Posted by: denk | Oct 3 2023 15:55 utc | 813

Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 3 2023 12:28 utc | 402
—————————-
I grind thru the scorpion’s diatribe holding my nose, so that barflies dont have to.
Connecting the dots, …

Huge population, centralised system, ants like people, likely to endenger a totalitarian, tyrannical monster. !

My summary is exactly what the scorpion intends to say , minus the weasel worlds.
[I really wanna trust the PRC but….
so the PRc LIFTED millions outta poverty, if you say so..]
Since we’r here,
There’s another gem that I didnt bother to point out earlier.,
scorpion

There aint no one targeting the PRC, thats pure CPC hallucination and the chicom are totally brainwahsed about a western threat’

Dean Rusk, state dept

At times the Communist Chinese leaders seem to be obsessed with the notion that they are being threatened and encircled.”
China’s “imaginary, almost pathological, notion that the United States and other countries around its borders are seeking an opportunity to invade mainland China and destroy the Peiping [Peking] regime”.

More great men think alike.
With talent like this, who needs the Pompass ?
Moral of the story,
When in a hole, stop digging !

Posted by: denk | Oct 3 2023 15:55 utc | 814

Posted by: Antonym | Oct 3 2023 15:17 utc | 404

@ watcher | Oct 3 2023 13:31 utc | 403
“For China the mountains of Tibet form a key safety barrier but only if occupied by a neutral or friendly power.” Good, agreement with India. Keep Tibet neutral, unarmed, unaligned – so independent. Like a future Ukraine.
What is good for the Peking duck is good for the Delhi gander.

That is true. And I also believe the notion of Tibet as a neutral buffer zone would be the ideal solution for Tibetans, Indians and Chinese now that the Indians can stand up for themselves finally, which 70 years ago wasn’t the case.
But also, the major rivers coming out of the Himalayas are vital for both China and India so sole Chinese control is unbalancing. Especially given China is quite capable of building huge dams which could deprive India of such water entirely displacing about a half a billion people (Bangladesh alone has 300 million).
Plus there are no doubt many valuable minerals in those mountains, so the annexation was also a good old fashioned colonialist land grab, the result of which is that local Tibetans have no say in how their resources are exploited.
It isn’t ideal; but then most situations aren’t. Again, though, pretending it’s all love and light emanating from Beijing is both inaccurate and silly.

Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 3 2023 15:58 utc | 815

Posted by: Antonym | Oct 3 2023 15:17 utc | 404

@ watcher | Oct 3 2023 13:31 utc | 403
“For China the mountains of Tibet form a key safety barrier but only if occupied by a neutral or friendly power.” Good, agreement with India. Keep Tibet neutral, unarmed, unaligned – so independent. Like a future Ukraine.
What is good for the Peking duck is good for the Delhi gander.

That is true. And I also believe the notion of Tibet as a neutral buffer zone would be the ideal solution for Tibetans, Indians and Chinese now that the Indians can stand up for themselves finally, which 70 years ago wasn’t the case.
But also, the major rivers coming out of the Himalayas are vital for both China and India so sole Chinese control is unbalancing. Especially given China is quite capable of building huge dams which could deprive India of such water entirely displacing about a half a billion people (Bangladesh alone has 300 million).
Plus there are no doubt many valuable minerals in those mountains, so the annexation was also a good old fashioned colonialist land grab, the result of which is that local Tibetans have no say in how their resources are exploited.
It isn’t ideal; but then most situations aren’t. Again, though, pretending it’s all love and light emanating from Beijing is both inaccurate and silly.

Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 3 2023 15:58 utc | 816

prof of philosophistry

denk is a shameless liar, a troll

say the serial lying charlatan

I dont like China’s anti region policies.

Xinjiang alone has more mosques than the entire eu, genius.
China is the country with the largest population of Buddhists,
China has the world’s fastest growing xtian community ,
[China haters fret not, one more xtian, one less Chinese, in no time China would be conquered without firing one bullet. !]

The CPC regime regards religion as a danger to the state, presumably because it might threaten their authority if a following gets too large

Here comes the weasel words…

It’s understandable, but hardly enlightened and I think reveals a fundamental weakness

CPC regime, hmmm
Earth to scorpion,
FUKUSAss aka AUKUS have already weaponised Buddhist, Muslim, xtian militants and FLG cultists against China, where’ve you been all these years
, under some rocks ?

Posted by: denk | Oct 4 2023 13:36 utc | 817

prof of philosophistry

denk is a shameless liar, a troll

say the serial lying charlatan

I dont like China’s anti region policies.

Xinjiang alone has more mosques than the entire eu, genius.
China is the country with the largest population of Buddhists,
China has the world’s fastest growing xtian community ,
[China haters fret not, one more xtian, one less Chinese, in no time China would be conquered without firing one bullet. !]

The CPC regime regards religion as a danger to the state, presumably because it might threaten their authority if a following gets too large

Here comes the weasel words…

It’s understandable, but hardly enlightened and I think reveals a fundamental weakness

CPC regime, hmmm
Earth to scorpion,
FUKUSAss aka AUKUS have already weaponised Buddhist, Muslim, xtian militants and FLG cultists against China, where’ve you been all these years
, under some rocks ?

Posted by: denk | Oct 4 2023 13:36 utc | 818

“China is the country with the largest population of Buddhists,”
“China has the world’s fastest growing xtian community ,”
Wondering why you respectfully spell out “Buddhists” properly and in upper-case, but then denigrate Christians with the shorthand “xtians” in lower-case. My guess is it is politically expedient to do so in the West now. Why is that?

Posted by: Wisco | Oct 5 2023 2:09 utc | 819

“China is the country with the largest population of Buddhists,”
“China has the world’s fastest growing xtian community ,”
Wondering why you respectfully spell out “Buddhists” properly and in upper-case, but then denigrate Christians with the shorthand “xtians” in lower-case. My guess is it is politically expedient to do so in the West now. Why is that?

Posted by: Wisco | Oct 5 2023 2:09 utc | 820

So clear to me. “Black” now is formally designated in all MSM to be in upper-case, while “white” is designated as always to be in lower-case. Doesn’t make sense to me.

Posted by: Wisco | Oct 5 2023 2:19 utc | 821

So clear to me. “Black” now is formally designated in all MSM to be in upper-case, while “white” is designated as always to be in lower-case. Doesn’t make sense to me.

Posted by: Wisco | Oct 5 2023 2:19 utc | 822

But clearly, to anyone who has the slightest modicum of independent thinking and isn’t brainwashed into a stupor, the fact of requiring by law the capitalization of “Black” while also requiring by law the lower-case use “white” is totally racist.

Posted by: Wisco | Oct 5 2023 2:53 utc | 823

But clearly, to anyone who has the slightest modicum of independent thinking and isn’t brainwashed into a stupor, the fact of requiring by law the capitalization of “Black” while also requiring by law the lower-case use “white” is totally racist.

Posted by: Wisco | Oct 5 2023 2:53 utc | 824

Posted by: Wisco | Oct 5 2023 2:09 utc | 410
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massive xtian conversion pose a great risk to China’s national security.
‘One more xtian, one less Chinese’

Posted by: denk | Oct 5 2023 14:22 utc | 825

Posted by: Wisco | Oct 5 2023 2:09 utc | 410
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massive xtian conversion pose a great risk to China’s national security.
‘One more xtian, one less Chinese’

Posted by: denk | Oct 5 2023 14:22 utc | 826

Sooner or later, we have to adapt a cooperative approach; otherwise we will not survive as a species. Why not now? We will not be perfect in adaptation yet we must find ways to reduce the self-righteousness what keeps us locked in hegemonic competition.

Posted by: davemacq | Oct 16 2023 2:15 utc | 827

Sooner or later, we have to adapt a cooperative approach; otherwise we will not survive as a species. Why not now? We will not be perfect in adaptation yet we must find ways to reduce the self-righteousness what keeps us locked in hegemonic competition.

Posted by: davemacq | Oct 16 2023 2:15 utc | 828

Niemand mehr kann die über alle maßen hochmütig gewordene USA von ihrer Selbstzerstörung und Fremdzerstörung (Russland, China & Co.) retten.
Die müsste schon allen mehr als klar sein.

Posted by: mile7bar | Oct 20 2023 8:17 utc | 829

Niemand mehr kann die über alle maßen hochmütig gewordene USA von ihrer Selbstzerstörung und Fremdzerstörung (Russland, China & Co.) retten.
Die müsste schon allen mehr als klar sein.

Posted by: mile7bar | Oct 20 2023 8:17 utc | 830