Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
September 1, 2023
As The U.S. Wages War On It China Reacts With Defiance

Just as U.S. Secretary of Commerce Gina Raimondo returns from China her department issues new restrictions on chip deliveries:

The United States has broadened restrictions on the export of high-performance artificial intelligence chips by Nvidia and Advanced Micro Devices (AMD), extending them beyond China to other regions, including some countries in the Middle East, amid rising concerns about Beijing’s access to critical AI resources.

Reuters reported Thursday that a regulatory filing by Nvidia stated that its state-of-the-art A100 and H100 chips, which speed up machine learning on AI apps such as ChatGPT had been put on a “no-export” list.

The attempt is to prevent 'leaks' of chips from countries like the United Arab Emirates or Saudi Arabia to Russia and China. But, as I noted yesterday, China is already making chips of equal capacity:

Huawei's compute GPU capabilities are now on par with Nvidia's A100 GPUs, Liu Qingfeng, founder and chairman of Chinese AI company iFlytek, said at the 19th Summer Summit of the 2023 Yabuli China Entrepreneurs Forum (via IT Home).

Liu Qingfeng stated that Huawei has made significant strides in the GPU sector, achieving capabilities and performance comparable to Nvidia's A100 GPU.

China is not only autarkic in making chips but now also in making the delicate machines needed to make chips:

China’s etching equipment giant Advanced Micro-Fabrication Equipment (AMEC) has reported hefty growth in earnings and revenue in the first half of 2023 thanks to strong demand for local tools as a result of US tech export controls, the company’s founder and CEO Gerald Yin Zhiyao said on Friday.

AMEC’s market share of China’s capacitively coupled plasma (CCP) etching equipment market is expected to reach 60 per cent in the near future from 24 per cent last October, Yin said. In the inductive coupled plasma (ICP) tool market, Yin said its share could rise to 75 per cent from almost zero after once-dominant Lam Research from the US saw its share drop sharply.

As China deepens its semiconductor self-sufficiency drive to include chip-making equipment and key components, Yin said that 80 per cent of restricted, imported parts at AMEC can be replaced domestically by the end of this year, with 100 per cent replacement following in the second half next year.

The New York Times resume of Secretary Raimondo's and other's trips is somewhat amusing:

U.S. Officials Are Streaming to China. Will Beijing Return the Favor?

Batteridge's law responds with "No!" There were obviously no 'favors' from either side:

When Gina Raimondo, the secretary of commerce, left China this week, it marked the end of a three-month diplomatic blitz by the Biden administration to try to stabilize ties with Beijing and arrest a free fall in the relationship that had raised concerns about the risk of conflict.

President Biden had bet that high-level dialogue could help manage an escalating rivalry over trade, technology and the status of Taiwan. Secretary of State Antony J. Blinken was the first to make the trip to the Chinese capital in June, followed by Treasury Secretary Janet L. Yellen and the presidential climate envoy, John Kerry, in July.

After logging all those miles, the question now is whether China will reciprocate by sending senior Chinese ministers to Washington.

The people Biden sent on visits in China had nothing to give and were given nothing. The U.S. attempt to deceive China by holding useless talks while it ramps up its cold war cordon around China have failed.

As long as that policy continues there is nothing of substance that China could gain by sending people to Washington DC. Holding talks just to keep talking about nothing does not make sense. So evidently no Chinese envoy will come.

Patrick Lawrence is trashing Biden's strategy as he finds that the travels to China are not designed to talk with Chine but to deceive Americans:

Proposing to conduct routine business while sabotaging China’s competitive position in advanced technologies is prima facie a ridiculous idea.

The Biden administration’s China strategy comes down to parrying, in a word. All the pointless talk is intended to obscure a concerted effort to undermine China’s economy because the U.S. cannot compete with it in various strategic sectors, while — part two — buying time to move maximum U.S. military hardware as close to the mainland as possible under the program the Defense Department named a few years ago the Pacific Defense Initiative, the PDI.

The Chinese know this and have said so many times. I no longer think Blinken, Yellen, et al. have any thought of persuading them otherwise on these journeys. That only looks like their intent.

Their true purpose is in the way of theatrical, and Americans are their true audience: They must make sure Americans do not understand Gina Raimondo’s efforts to punch the Chinese, well below their belts, for what they are: an uncompetitive nation’s attempts to hold back a rising economic power.

The Biden regime is buying time as it remilitarizes the western end of the Pacific.

The only people who are supposed to understand otherwise are Americans, who are not supposed to watch as Washington provokes and prosecutes Cold War II. Americans are supposed to watch as U.S. officials — reasonable, constructive, well-intended —make all efforts to talk to the Chinese in the face of their stubborn reluctance to cooperate.

This is my revised take on the Blinken–Yellen–Kerry–Raimondo cavalcade across the Pacific. These people are not clods. They are purposefully malicious and, it should go without saying, are making the world even more dangerous than it already is.

Peter Lee has just come back from a visit to China. He is reporting of of a new, someone snobby to hostile attitude towards Americans. It is justified:

After all, America and Americans are suspect for good reason.

As I’ve pointed out on my twitter several times, US aggression against the PRC, misleadingly packaged as US-China tensions, is a virtual full-spectrum assault, only stopping short, for now anyway, of direct military action. The US is determined to degrade the PRC’s military, economic, and international security and domestic social and political stability in all available dimensions. Concessions are tactical; attacks are strategic.

The CCP perhaps hopes Western failure in Ukraine will slake the G7 thirst for anti-authoritarian jihad and hopes economic relations and foreign direct investment with China will recover but hope is not a plan. Not with the United States pumping hundreds of billions of dollars to finance global anti-PRC economic, military, diplomatic, political, soft power, and media initiatives.

I believe this increasingly plausible worst-case scenario is driving a lot of PRC decision-making (and drives the barrage of resentful criticism of PRC policy choices in the Western media).

Will the CCP succeed?

The product it’s pitching to its citizens and to the world—that’s multilateralism via economic engagement—is fundamentally more attractive to a lot of countries than the deficit driven global War to Save Democracy that the US is peddling. Given money, perseverance, luck, and time the PRC might be able to thread the needle.

But … there’s that “time” thing. There’s the rub.

My opinion is, if the CCP is succeeding, in other words if it shows significant progress in establishing a robust parallel international order that can shield it from US economic aggression, the US will start a hot war to see if it can truly f*ck China up.

Because the only US response to failure is escalation.

And that’s why my profile says “pessimist”.

As Peter had noted last year China's government has for quite some time prepared for this.

Well, let's hope that it does not come to another war.

But Peter is right. The U.S. is typically willing to double down in its aggressions.

It continues to play dirty games in Asia to get what it wants (h/t Carl Zha).

On August 24 the Defense Minister of Indonesia, Prabowo Subianto, visited the Pentagon. After the meeting the U.S. issued a:

United States DoD and Indonesia MoD Joint Press Statement

Minister Prabowo and Secretary Austin agreed that the ASEAN Outlook on the Indo-Pacific and the United States' Indo-Pacific Strategy share fundamental principles, such as a commitment to maintaining peace, security, stability, and prosperity in the region through ASEAN Centrality, and that we should work alongside partners who share these goals and a commitment to an open, inclusive, and rules-based order. They shared the view that the People's Republic of China's (PRC) expansive maritime claims in the South China Sea are inconsistent with international law as reflected in the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea.

That however has not been Indonesia's position. China noticed that the Pentagon was lying. It protested:

JAKARTA, KOMPAS – The Chinese Embassy in Jakarta has objected to the press statement issued by the United States Department of Defense regarding the defense cooperation with Indonesia in the South China Sea. The press statement stated that US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin and Indonesian Defense Minister Prabowo Subianto both agreed that China's expansive maritime claims in the South China Sea were inconsistent with international law.

"After comparing the US press statement with the press statement released by the Indonesian Ministry of Defense, the sentence that accuses and corners China only appears in the US Ministry of Defense press release," said the objection response signed by the spokesperson of the Chinese Embassy in Jakarta, Monday (28/8/2023)."

Today the Indonesian defense minister confirmed that the U.S. 'Joint Press Statement' is fake (machine translation):

Jakarta, KOMPAS – Defense Minister Prabowo Subianto confirmed that there was no joint statement with the US Defense Ministry when he met US Defense Minister Lloyd Austin last week. Prabowo said that Indonesia is in principle friendly to all countries and adheres to a free and active foreign policy.

“Indonesia's position is very clear. We are non-aligned. We are non-aligned, we are friendly with all countries. So I think that's what matters, " Prabowo said after handing over an electric trail bike for the TNI and Polri at the Ministry of Defense, Thursday (31/8).

Prabowo stressed that there was no joint statement with the US Defense Ministry. The Pentagon said in a joint statement that the two ministers shared similar views on China's maritime claims and expansionist actions in the South China Sea. In this regard, in line with the principle of active freedom, Prabowo again emphasized that Indonesia has good relations with China, the United States and Russia.

The Pentagon's diplomatic faux pas, issuing a 'Joint Statement' when none had been agreed upon, may well become costly. Indonesia and other will surely take note of it and will be prepared to loudly dismiss any recurance.

Comments

I would also like to add that I’ve experienced the new appliances. They don’t last long and I feel that it’s a waste of our natural resources. As well as war. But planned obsolescence and greed have taken over every facet of our everyday lives.

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Sep 2 2023 4:04 utc | 201

I would also like to add that I’ve experienced the new appliances. They don’t last long and I feel that it’s a waste of our natural resources. As well as war. But planned obsolescence and greed have taken over every facet of our everyday lives.

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Sep 2 2023 4:04 utc | 202

@ Constantine | Sep 1 2023 23:52 utc | 76, saying, “If there is to be any improvement (including in the west), the Anglo-American empire must be defeated.”
Indeed, but how? Direct military confrontation will not work, because that would most likely produce complete nuclear annihilation, as kind of noted @ William Gruff | Sep 2 2023 0:53 utc | 82, saying, “I think you are right about how exciting things are going to get. I would just prefer to observe from a slightly greater distance… say Mars.” It is the miracle of our times that total nuclear war hasn’t happened yet, but it is still the most likely outcome, unless God/fate intervenes.
Otherwise, the system might be overthrown from internal pressure, perhaps caused by some catastrophic development, such as a sudden collapse in the value of the dollar. Any such collapse will require that part of the ruling elite turns against its class, most likely because those would see that the system is not sustainable, so, to protect themselves or enhance their power, they might seize the initiative. This would be like the populares in the ancient Roman republic, the Gracchi or Julius Caesar, blue-blooded aristocrats all.
The trouble is, with the technology and weapons of today, any split in the ruling elite leading to violence is going to be a real ugly mess, probably with civil war, extreme violence, destruction of physical structures, and mass death. It wouldn’t be nuclear war (Although, didn’t some idiot congressman threaten to nuke the US people if they stepped out of line? Hasn’t the Biden administration also implied it?), but it would be tragically disastrous. There doesn’t seem to be any path to a “soft landing.”
Then the election campaign, on its surface, seems also to be a possible occasion for a messy collapse, especially with Trump leading in some polls, all kinds of other volatility, and the growing hatred of the public for the establishment, even while they continue to entertain establishment-sources myths and deceptions.
The US people cannot be blamed entirely for the state they are in, but they may still pay the price. They need to wake up to the fact that the Washington leadership are traitors to the people, traitors who should be put on trial for capital treason. Anyway, I agree we are in for a rough ride, and probably sooner rather than later.

Posted by: Cabe | Sep 2 2023 4:08 utc | 203

@ Constantine | Sep 1 2023 23:52 utc | 76, saying, “If there is to be any improvement (including in the west), the Anglo-American empire must be defeated.”
Indeed, but how? Direct military confrontation will not work, because that would most likely produce complete nuclear annihilation, as kind of noted @ William Gruff | Sep 2 2023 0:53 utc | 82, saying, “I think you are right about how exciting things are going to get. I would just prefer to observe from a slightly greater distance… say Mars.” It is the miracle of our times that total nuclear war hasn’t happened yet, but it is still the most likely outcome, unless God/fate intervenes.
Otherwise, the system might be overthrown from internal pressure, perhaps caused by some catastrophic development, such as a sudden collapse in the value of the dollar. Any such collapse will require that part of the ruling elite turns against its class, most likely because those would see that the system is not sustainable, so, to protect themselves or enhance their power, they might seize the initiative. This would be like the populares in the ancient Roman republic, the Gracchi or Julius Caesar, blue-blooded aristocrats all.
The trouble is, with the technology and weapons of today, any split in the ruling elite leading to violence is going to be a real ugly mess, probably with civil war, extreme violence, destruction of physical structures, and mass death. It wouldn’t be nuclear war (Although, didn’t some idiot congressman threaten to nuke the US people if they stepped out of line? Hasn’t the Biden administration also implied it?), but it would be tragically disastrous. There doesn’t seem to be any path to a “soft landing.”
Then the election campaign, on its surface, seems also to be a possible occasion for a messy collapse, especially with Trump leading in some polls, all kinds of other volatility, and the growing hatred of the public for the establishment, even while they continue to entertain establishment-sources myths and deceptions.
The US people cannot be blamed entirely for the state they are in, but they may still pay the price. They need to wake up to the fact that the Washington leadership are traitors to the people, traitors who should be put on trial for capital treason. Anyway, I agree we are in for a rough ride, and probably sooner rather than later.

Posted by: Cabe | Sep 2 2023 4:08 utc | 204

I gotta say, as a guy who has now spent most of my 50+ years of life on the island of Formosa, I emphatically dismiss pretty much everything asserted by LuRenJia at #88 as utter nonsense.
Taiwanese speak Mandarin (called “The Country’s Language”, when referred to), they read and write using traditional Chinese characters (I.e.: more historically “Chinese” than those used on the mainland), their most beloved novelists were historically fiercely nationalist mainland Chinese (Jin Yong, etc), their temples are built to worship deities imported from the mainland, their oldest rural areas still identify with the regions their ancestors emigrated from, local cuisines and dialects still reflect those same regional origins, the top celebrities still are welcomed by both Taiwanese and Mainland China alike, and to be frank most Taiwanese I have met are far better informed about what’s happening internationally than the average NATOstani is. Taiwanese don’t only get their news from the US, but also China, Korea, and Japan.
Now, it is true that the full-court propaganda push on Ukraine has succeeded as well here as it has everywhere else in extended NATOstan, but that’s what we are all watching fall apart with each passing day, no?
Taiwanese are terrified of the CPC, and so many of them hold out hope that the US will be able to “deliver them from evil,” so to speak. But Ukraine is going to starkly demonstrate to such folk the utter futility in such a faith. The fact that Terry Guo/Gou (Guo Taiming) is campaigning on that slogan is all the indication one needs to ascertain that, increasingly, the lesson the average Taiwanese is taking away from that war is the accurate one. Guo is a canny political player, and if he gets the right running mate he stands a strong chance of winning. He’s also an ally of Trump and Bannon.
Also, the idea that the DPP is some kind of wizard at winning national elections is farcical. Chen Shuibian won his election because of underhanded double-dealing by Pres. Lee in the back rooms of the KMT. Cai Yingwen won because the KMT ran two deplorable candidates against her, back-to-back. That was an era when the old-guard, 2nd generation KMT was dying off and the new guard had largely been siphoned off into the New Party by Song Chuyu. The KMT has now had 12 years to regroup and the 2022 elections are ample proof that they are building mojo.
The simple truth is that there isn’t anyone in the DPP who carries any kind of name recognition, right now, which is the same situation the KMT found itself in the last two national elections. The most popular candidates with urbanites is the current mayor of Taipei, who is descended from Chiang Kaishek / Jiang Jieshi, and the last mayor of Taipei, Ke Wenzhe, who is unaffiliated with any party.
It should also be noted that Mayor Jiang recently led a Taiwanese delegation to Shanghai and Beijing which has been quietly and quite negatively covered by the corporate press.
So I would strongly urge all folk here to press the mute button on any person who jumps up saying that a war with China over Taiwan is imminent and inevitable.
Such people who spout such nonsense are whispering into a whirlwind, and will be long forgotten after their fearmongering fails in its aims.

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Sep 2 2023 4:17 utc | 205

I gotta say, as a guy who has now spent most of my 50+ years of life on the island of Formosa, I emphatically dismiss pretty much everything asserted by LuRenJia at #88 as utter nonsense.
Taiwanese speak Mandarin (called “The Country’s Language”, when referred to), they read and write using traditional Chinese characters (I.e.: more historically “Chinese” than those used on the mainland), their most beloved novelists were historically fiercely nationalist mainland Chinese (Jin Yong, etc), their temples are built to worship deities imported from the mainland, their oldest rural areas still identify with the regions their ancestors emigrated from, local cuisines and dialects still reflect those same regional origins, the top celebrities still are welcomed by both Taiwanese and Mainland China alike, and to be frank most Taiwanese I have met are far better informed about what’s happening internationally than the average NATOstani is. Taiwanese don’t only get their news from the US, but also China, Korea, and Japan.
Now, it is true that the full-court propaganda push on Ukraine has succeeded as well here as it has everywhere else in extended NATOstan, but that’s what we are all watching fall apart with each passing day, no?
Taiwanese are terrified of the CPC, and so many of them hold out hope that the US will be able to “deliver them from evil,” so to speak. But Ukraine is going to starkly demonstrate to such folk the utter futility in such a faith. The fact that Terry Guo/Gou (Guo Taiming) is campaigning on that slogan is all the indication one needs to ascertain that, increasingly, the lesson the average Taiwanese is taking away from that war is the accurate one. Guo is a canny political player, and if he gets the right running mate he stands a strong chance of winning. He’s also an ally of Trump and Bannon.
Also, the idea that the DPP is some kind of wizard at winning national elections is farcical. Chen Shuibian won his election because of underhanded double-dealing by Pres. Lee in the back rooms of the KMT. Cai Yingwen won because the KMT ran two deplorable candidates against her, back-to-back. That was an era when the old-guard, 2nd generation KMT was dying off and the new guard had largely been siphoned off into the New Party by Song Chuyu. The KMT has now had 12 years to regroup and the 2022 elections are ample proof that they are building mojo.
The simple truth is that there isn’t anyone in the DPP who carries any kind of name recognition, right now, which is the same situation the KMT found itself in the last two national elections. The most popular candidates with urbanites is the current mayor of Taipei, who is descended from Chiang Kaishek / Jiang Jieshi, and the last mayor of Taipei, Ke Wenzhe, who is unaffiliated with any party.
It should also be noted that Mayor Jiang recently led a Taiwanese delegation to Shanghai and Beijing which has been quietly and quite negatively covered by the corporate press.
So I would strongly urge all folk here to press the mute button on any person who jumps up saying that a war with China over Taiwan is imminent and inevitable.
Such people who spout such nonsense are whispering into a whirlwind, and will be long forgotten after their fearmongering fails in its aims.

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Sep 2 2023 4:17 utc | 206

Thanks b, and I beg your indulgence. Does war contribute to our so called global warming? Let the games begin.

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Sep 2 2023 4:20 utc | 207

Thanks b, and I beg your indulgence. Does war contribute to our so called global warming? Let the games begin.

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Sep 2 2023 4:20 utc | 208

Posted by: Drifter | Sep 2 2023 3:49 utc | 99
EXACTLY this…. The strife that is not kayfabe is just gangsters fighting over who gets to sit at the high table.
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Ha ha!
I could have added: that said, I hope the pesky freedom-loving types win, and then a genuine, self-governing republic is re-established, and then America First catches on world-wide, with Russia First, China First, Serbia first, everybody first… sovereignty first! Dump all this globalista IMF, WHO, WTO crap into oblivion.
But it ain’t lookin’ good for that team right now, since it isn’t organized as such….

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 2 2023 4:24 utc | 209

Posted by: Drifter | Sep 2 2023 3:49 utc | 99
EXACTLY this…. The strife that is not kayfabe is just gangsters fighting over who gets to sit at the high table.
=========================================
Ha ha!
I could have added: that said, I hope the pesky freedom-loving types win, and then a genuine, self-governing republic is re-established, and then America First catches on world-wide, with Russia First, China First, Serbia first, everybody first… sovereignty first! Dump all this globalista IMF, WHO, WTO crap into oblivion.
But it ain’t lookin’ good for that team right now, since it isn’t organized as such….

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 2 2023 4:24 utc | 210

LuRenJia & Oriental Voice–
Thank you very much for your replies and detailed answers to my query. The Taiwanese election theatre will soon escalate. I’m sure it will be entertaining. The situation’s very delicate as China needs to be viewed as a non-hegemonic nation by the RoW it aims to pilot, which I see as different from lead.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 2 2023 4:31 utc | 211

LuRenJia & Oriental Voice–
Thank you very much for your replies and detailed answers to my query. The Taiwanese election theatre will soon escalate. I’m sure it will be entertaining. The situation’s very delicate as China needs to be viewed as a non-hegemonic nation by the RoW it aims to pilot, which I see as different from lead.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 2 2023 4:31 utc | 212

What then could be China’s protection against that? What if it promised full independence to Taiwan (after satisfactory Chinese autarky, if course) using independence and trade leverage as blackmail/bargaining chips for a bilateral non-aggression treaty, a demilitarised Taiwanese Constitution — which would include kicking out the US for good. Obviously, if China no longer had any vested interest in Taiwan ownership (other than ideological/cultural/ historical), it has no need to ever attack or capture it. Funny, soooo like Russia to Ukraine.
Or else, it’s the US proxy war playbook yet again.
Posted by: SCCC | Sep 2 2023 2:55 utc | 91

This proves that you have no authority of any kind to be “contributing” to any discussion of the “Taiwan Question”.
For something like four decades, now, China’s CPC has tabled the same offer to Taiwan’s ROC:
You keep your military, under your command, as our ally.
You keep your government and run it as you please, according to your laws.
You police your people according to your designated laws.
But any international treaties you enter into go through the CPC.
It’s quite clear that the elites of Taiwan are holding the threat of wholesale destruction of their “compatriots” as a hostage against their continuing profits from their trade with the US.
These chip fabs being built in the US (which I commented upon in another thread) may well be the off-ramp to war with China. If the Taiwanese elites can simply relocate their homes and businesses to the US then war over Taiwan is suddenly irrelevant to all involved—so long as the US elite continue to believe their people can actually operate those plants, which is something I personally question.

That man, Guo, is still a Taiwanese, and you should always take his action with skepticism. China and the chinese people very well know that. Oriental Voice and LuRenJia has written very good and informative posts about the situation in Taiwan.
Posted by: Man | Sep 2 2023 2:56 utc | 92

Truly diabolical nonsense. How much do you get paid to write this racist drivel, and which US base do you operate from?

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Sep 2 2023 4:44 utc | 213

What then could be China’s protection against that? What if it promised full independence to Taiwan (after satisfactory Chinese autarky, if course) using independence and trade leverage as blackmail/bargaining chips for a bilateral non-aggression treaty, a demilitarised Taiwanese Constitution — which would include kicking out the US for good. Obviously, if China no longer had any vested interest in Taiwan ownership (other than ideological/cultural/ historical), it has no need to ever attack or capture it. Funny, soooo like Russia to Ukraine.
Or else, it’s the US proxy war playbook yet again.
Posted by: SCCC | Sep 2 2023 2:55 utc | 91

This proves that you have no authority of any kind to be “contributing” to any discussion of the “Taiwan Question”.
For something like four decades, now, China’s CPC has tabled the same offer to Taiwan’s ROC:
You keep your military, under your command, as our ally.
You keep your government and run it as you please, according to your laws.
You police your people according to your designated laws.
But any international treaties you enter into go through the CPC.
It’s quite clear that the elites of Taiwan are holding the threat of wholesale destruction of their “compatriots” as a hostage against their continuing profits from their trade with the US.
These chip fabs being built in the US (which I commented upon in another thread) may well be the off-ramp to war with China. If the Taiwanese elites can simply relocate their homes and businesses to the US then war over Taiwan is suddenly irrelevant to all involved—so long as the US elite continue to believe their people can actually operate those plants, which is something I personally question.

That man, Guo, is still a Taiwanese, and you should always take his action with skepticism. China and the chinese people very well know that. Oriental Voice and LuRenJia has written very good and informative posts about the situation in Taiwan.
Posted by: Man | Sep 2 2023 2:56 utc | 92

Truly diabolical nonsense. How much do you get paid to write this racist drivel, and which US base do you operate from?

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Sep 2 2023 4:44 utc | 214

@ Organic | Sep 2 2023 2:58 utc | 93
“Being seen as the bully boy in SE Asia simply makes them the mirror image of the US, even US bases are now back in the Philippines and Biden is off to Vietnam for talks which will no doubt be about “containing” China. China could easily make all these issues go away, but it doesn’t. Agree it seems both arrogant and foolish.”
Bingo !!!

Posted by: Antonym | Sep 2 2023 4:56 utc | 215

@ Organic | Sep 2 2023 2:58 utc | 93
“Being seen as the bully boy in SE Asia simply makes them the mirror image of the US, even US bases are now back in the Philippines and Biden is off to Vietnam for talks which will no doubt be about “containing” China. China could easily make all these issues go away, but it doesn’t. Agree it seems both arrogant and foolish.”
Bingo !!!

Posted by: Antonym | Sep 2 2023 4:56 utc | 216

China will overtake the west in chip technology. Only because everything is being stifled here in the good ole USA. Enjoy! Homeless, identity politics, and wrong think, and a plethora of other problem have doomed America. We will reap what has beeen sown.

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Sep 2 2023 5:01 utc | 217

China will overtake the west in chip technology. Only because everything is being stifled here in the good ole USA. Enjoy! Homeless, identity politics, and wrong think, and a plethora of other problem have doomed America. We will reap what has beeen sown.

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Sep 2 2023 5:01 utc | 218

@Acco Hengst (16)
Putin’s “go slow” approach is actually killing Ukrainian soldiers very fast. That’s how attritional warfare works. People worrying about gaining or losing inconsequential bits of territory fail to understand the concept.

Posted by: Rob | Sep 2 2023 5:03 utc | 219

@Acco Hengst (16)
Putin’s “go slow” approach is actually killing Ukrainian soldiers very fast. That’s how attritional warfare works. People worrying about gaining or losing inconsequential bits of territory fail to understand the concept.

Posted by: Rob | Sep 2 2023 5:03 utc | 220

@Posted by: LuRenJia | Sep 2 2023 1:56 utc | 88
“IMHO, Taiwan started to consume the wealth it accumulated years ago. The relation across the Straight was OK under Ma’s regime because Ma was “friendly” to the Mainland. China now started to demand fair trade with Taiwan and may stop its preferred treatment in trading for Taiwan. Without the annual trading surplus from China, Taiwan is totally screwed. (In 2021, Taiwan had about USD$200+B surplus from trading with China.)”
So, just like Hong Kong. The mainland outgrew Taiwan and could squash it like a bug if needed. As another commentator noted, China could simply blockade Taiwan into submission and there’s nothing the US could do to stop that. Prior to that, China will probably make Taiwan a lot poorer to demonstrate its relative power. Lead or Gold are the only two possibilities for the Taiwanese elites, unless of course they swan off to the US like so many other traitors.

Posted by: Roger | Sep 2 2023 5:04 utc | 221

@Posted by: LuRenJia | Sep 2 2023 1:56 utc | 88
“IMHO, Taiwan started to consume the wealth it accumulated years ago. The relation across the Straight was OK under Ma’s regime because Ma was “friendly” to the Mainland. China now started to demand fair trade with Taiwan and may stop its preferred treatment in trading for Taiwan. Without the annual trading surplus from China, Taiwan is totally screwed. (In 2021, Taiwan had about USD$200+B surplus from trading with China.)”
So, just like Hong Kong. The mainland outgrew Taiwan and could squash it like a bug if needed. As another commentator noted, China could simply blockade Taiwan into submission and there’s nothing the US could do to stop that. Prior to that, China will probably make Taiwan a lot poorer to demonstrate its relative power. Lead or Gold are the only two possibilities for the Taiwanese elites, unless of course they swan off to the US like so many other traitors.

Posted by: Roger | Sep 2 2023 5:04 utc | 222

@LuRenJia | Sep 2 2023 1:56 utc | 88
Most Taiwanese now do not think they are Chinese but just Taiwanese.
Whether polls will show that could depend on how the question was worded. However, a more important fact is that 84.9% of Taiwanese want to maintain the current status quo; in other words, almost 85% do NOT want formal independence. The DPP can spew its usual propaganda, but an 85 percent supermajority against them is tough to lie about.
Unfortunately, the only way forward is reunion by force.
No, the most likely way forward in Taiwan is to keep the peace across the strait and make a lot of money. What is wrong with that?

Posted by: Cyril | Sep 2 2023 5:05 utc | 223

@LuRenJia | Sep 2 2023 1:56 utc | 88
Most Taiwanese now do not think they are Chinese but just Taiwanese.
Whether polls will show that could depend on how the question was worded. However, a more important fact is that 84.9% of Taiwanese want to maintain the current status quo; in other words, almost 85% do NOT want formal independence. The DPP can spew its usual propaganda, but an 85 percent supermajority against them is tough to lie about.
Unfortunately, the only way forward is reunion by force.
No, the most likely way forward in Taiwan is to keep the peace across the strait and make a lot of money. What is wrong with that?

Posted by: Cyril | Sep 2 2023 5:05 utc | 224

@ Scorpion | Sep 2 2023 3:28 utc | 96
“thanks for your replies about the chips in Taiwan etc. I asked because I listened to a clip of Vivek Ramaswamy, an unlikely but surprisingly refreshing Presidential candidate, who is proposing to back Taiwan aggressively against any Chinese incursion for the next 4 years or so, which he calls strategic clarity, until the US can manufacture that same level of quality chips Stateside after which they will return to what he calls ‘strategic ambiguity’ again, like now apparently.”
Yes, this Vivek has a rational stand on Taiwan: till US chip industry gets on Taiwanese level defend the island from the CPC (~4 years?), after pull that US security blanket.
Can the PLA wait till ~ 2027 to invade Taiwan? The CIA couldn’t wait to invade Cuba in 1961.

Posted by: Antonym | Sep 2 2023 5:15 utc | 225

@ Scorpion | Sep 2 2023 3:28 utc | 96
“thanks for your replies about the chips in Taiwan etc. I asked because I listened to a clip of Vivek Ramaswamy, an unlikely but surprisingly refreshing Presidential candidate, who is proposing to back Taiwan aggressively against any Chinese incursion for the next 4 years or so, which he calls strategic clarity, until the US can manufacture that same level of quality chips Stateside after which they will return to what he calls ‘strategic ambiguity’ again, like now apparently.”
Yes, this Vivek has a rational stand on Taiwan: till US chip industry gets on Taiwanese level defend the island from the CPC (~4 years?), after pull that US security blanket.
Can the PLA wait till ~ 2027 to invade Taiwan? The CIA couldn’t wait to invade Cuba in 1961.

Posted by: Antonym | Sep 2 2023 5:15 utc | 226

@William Gruff | Sep 2 2023 0:53 utc | 82
Very true, and I think you are right about how exciting things are going to get. I would just prefer to observe from a slightly greater distance… say Mars.
LOL

Posted by: Cyril | Sep 2 2023 5:17 utc | 227

@William Gruff | Sep 2 2023 0:53 utc | 82
Very true, and I think you are right about how exciting things are going to get. I would just prefer to observe from a slightly greater distance… say Mars.
LOL

Posted by: Cyril | Sep 2 2023 5:17 utc | 228

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Sep 2 2023 4:44 utc | 108
These chip fabs being built in the US (which I commented upon in another thread) may well be the off-ramp to war with China. If the Taiwanese elites can simply relocate their homes and businesses to the US then war over Taiwan is suddenly irrelevant to all involved—so long as the US elite continue to believe their people can actually operate those plants, which is something I personally question.
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So that suggestion by candidate Vivek makes sense, then, because the US IS seriously dependent on Taiwanese chip manufactures. If you can get some of them to relocate, presumably they can bring over any requisite expertise, no?
In any case, thanks for your input. Like most things involving more than a million people, there is complex history, cross-currents, external agencies, internal contradictions and over-simplification doesn’t cut it either. But it sounds to me like the US over-dependency on Taiwan chips is an unhelpful factor in the equation.

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 2 2023 5:26 utc | 229

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Sep 2 2023 4:44 utc | 108
These chip fabs being built in the US (which I commented upon in another thread) may well be the off-ramp to war with China. If the Taiwanese elites can simply relocate their homes and businesses to the US then war over Taiwan is suddenly irrelevant to all involved—so long as the US elite continue to believe their people can actually operate those plants, which is something I personally question.
==============================================
So that suggestion by candidate Vivek makes sense, then, because the US IS seriously dependent on Taiwanese chip manufactures. If you can get some of them to relocate, presumably they can bring over any requisite expertise, no?
In any case, thanks for your input. Like most things involving more than a million people, there is complex history, cross-currents, external agencies, internal contradictions and over-simplification doesn’t cut it either. But it sounds to me like the US over-dependency on Taiwan chips is an unhelpful factor in the equation.

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 2 2023 5:26 utc | 230

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 2 2023 5:26 utc | 116
Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Sep 2 2023 4:44 utc | 108

These chip fabs being built in the US (which I commented upon in another thread) may well be the off-ramp to war with China.

Taiwan’s importance to the U.S and potential as a trip-wire to war has nothing to do with the chip industry.
Taiwan was and is still regarded as the U.S’ “unsinkable aircraft carrier” in the South China Sea/Pacific.
Simply disemboweling it of it’s core industrial production won’t change that fact.
In fact, the effect may be the opposite of an off-ramp: The Chinese may read it (wrongly) as the US giving up on Taiwan now that the crown jewels are no longer located there and assume that the way is now open to complete the reunification of Taiwan with the mainland.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 2 2023 5:33 utc | 231

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 2 2023 5:26 utc | 116
Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Sep 2 2023 4:44 utc | 108

These chip fabs being built in the US (which I commented upon in another thread) may well be the off-ramp to war with China.

Taiwan’s importance to the U.S and potential as a trip-wire to war has nothing to do with the chip industry.
Taiwan was and is still regarded as the U.S’ “unsinkable aircraft carrier” in the South China Sea/Pacific.
Simply disemboweling it of it’s core industrial production won’t change that fact.
In fact, the effect may be the opposite of an off-ramp: The Chinese may read it (wrongly) as the US giving up on Taiwan now that the crown jewels are no longer located there and assume that the way is now open to complete the reunification of Taiwan with the mainland.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 2 2023 5:33 utc | 232

@114
Bhakt levels of cognition yet again
Yeah, what a “rational” move on the part of the US it would be to force Taiwan to agree with the “strategically clear” policy of strip mining their semi industry within four years and then pulling the plug thereafter. Definitely a policy that the ROC government would consider a stable route forward.
And oh yeah for sure the PRC will definitely believe that the US would willingly degrade or deescalate whatever assets or policies they put in place to make Taiwan impregnable for this four-year period. Telegraphing your future drawdown from a hostile posture is standard procedure, especially for Americans!
All of that was sarcasm by the way, can never be too careful when dealing with the strategic insight of great Vishwaguru.

Posted by: J D | Sep 2 2023 6:01 utc | 233

@114
Bhakt levels of cognition yet again
Yeah, what a “rational” move on the part of the US it would be to force Taiwan to agree with the “strategically clear” policy of strip mining their semi industry within four years and then pulling the plug thereafter. Definitely a policy that the ROC government would consider a stable route forward.
And oh yeah for sure the PRC will definitely believe that the US would willingly degrade or deescalate whatever assets or policies they put in place to make Taiwan impregnable for this four-year period. Telegraphing your future drawdown from a hostile posture is standard procedure, especially for Americans!
All of that was sarcasm by the way, can never be too careful when dealing with the strategic insight of great Vishwaguru.

Posted by: J D | Sep 2 2023 6:01 utc | 234

China is developing chip-making machines. These “made in China” machines will be used to make chips, untouched by US sanctions.
You can safely assume that “made in USA” chip development software and chip manufacturing machines call home, and provide the US with intelligence about the Chinese electronics industry. China using US-made equipment probably provides the US with enough data to make reasonable guesses about what the Chinese are developing. Replacing “made in USA” with Chinese products closes this loophole, and make sense from a security point of view.
The USA bans US citizens and US green card holders from working at Chinese chip companies. This is a short-term problem for Chinese companies, but a long-term benefit for China as it removes an army of US eyes from looking at sensitive Chinese products.
The cherry on the cake will be China exporting these machines.

Posted by: Passerby | Sep 2 2023 6:29 utc | 235

China is developing chip-making machines. These “made in China” machines will be used to make chips, untouched by US sanctions.
You can safely assume that “made in USA” chip development software and chip manufacturing machines call home, and provide the US with intelligence about the Chinese electronics industry. China using US-made equipment probably provides the US with enough data to make reasonable guesses about what the Chinese are developing. Replacing “made in USA” with Chinese products closes this loophole, and make sense from a security point of view.
The USA bans US citizens and US green card holders from working at Chinese chip companies. This is a short-term problem for Chinese companies, but a long-term benefit for China as it removes an army of US eyes from looking at sensitive Chinese products.
The cherry on the cake will be China exporting these machines.

Posted by: Passerby | Sep 2 2023 6:29 utc | 236

Posted by: Passerby | Sep 2 2023 6:29 utc | 119

The USA bans US citizens and US green card holders from working at Chinese chip companies. This is a short-term problem for Chinese companies, but a long-term benefit for China

And a great benefit to migrant privateers like myself who are already beginning to see the Chinese recruiters sniffing around their doors …
Three cheers for Globalism!

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 2 2023 6:34 utc | 237

Posted by: Passerby | Sep 2 2023 6:29 utc | 119

The USA bans US citizens and US green card holders from working at Chinese chip companies. This is a short-term problem for Chinese companies, but a long-term benefit for China

And a great benefit to migrant privateers like myself who are already beginning to see the Chinese recruiters sniffing around their doors …
Three cheers for Globalism!

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 2 2023 6:34 utc | 238

All this talk about advanced chips is good. But …
Posted by: Immaculate deception | Sep 2 2023 1:22 utc | 86

The point is Convolutional Neural Networks.
Training neural networks against large datasets has changed the way complex algorithms are developed, and ‘solved’ many predictive problems that requite fitting inputs against complex models.
Image recognition is one such task.
For example, performing sheet music from pictures taken from a smart phone.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/SJhjIziEaO4

Posted by: too scents | Sep 2 2023 6:52 utc | 239

All this talk about advanced chips is good. But …
Posted by: Immaculate deception | Sep 2 2023 1:22 utc | 86

The point is Convolutional Neural Networks.
Training neural networks against large datasets has changed the way complex algorithms are developed, and ‘solved’ many predictive problems that requite fitting inputs against complex models.
Image recognition is one such task.
For example, performing sheet music from pictures taken from a smart phone.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/SJhjIziEaO4

Posted by: too scents | Sep 2 2023 6:52 utc | 240

If the US tries to buddy up with a non aligned country it won’t be long before the State Department will try to sell woke – X-wave feminism, gay rights, trans rights, DIE and wokeness all around. It hurts us badly I think plays a major role in convincing the Global South to put as much distance as possible between themselves and the truly sick and decadent USA.

Posted by: Eri | Sep 2 2023 6:58 utc | 241

If the US tries to buddy up with a non aligned country it won’t be long before the State Department will try to sell woke – X-wave feminism, gay rights, trans rights, DIE and wokeness all around. It hurts us badly I think plays a major role in convincing the Global South to put as much distance as possible between themselves and the truly sick and decadent USA.

Posted by: Eri | Sep 2 2023 6:58 utc | 242

Taiwan’s importance to the U.S and potential as a trip-wire to war has nothing to do with the chip industry.
Taiwan was and is still regarded as the U.S’ “unsinkable aircraft carrier” in the South China Sea/Pacific.
Simply disemboweling it of it’s core industrial production won’t change that fact.
In fact, the effect may be the opposite of an off-ramp: The Chinese may read it (wrongly) as the US giving up on Taiwan now that the crown jewels are no longer located there and assume that the way is now open to complete the reunification of Taiwan with the mainland.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 2 2023 5:33 utc | 117

Full agreement on that. But you’re ignoring the political aspects.
The US can’t come out and plainly admit that it is holding on to Taiwan as an attack platform and threat against China. It would lose pretty much all of East Asian support, except perhaps Japan.
So the electorate that sees the “behind the curtains” are the truly important people.
The US wants to pretend as if it has the lock on those people.
LuRenJia masquerades as if he (no ambiguity in this asshole’s gender) knows what the “average” Taiwanese wants and knows, but I am literally living amongst rice fields in central Taiwan, chatting up (politely) hischoolers and working, day-by-day, with laborers, and I can tell you: from top to bottom, here in Taiwan, there is a deep suspicion of the American Plan for this place.
The question isn’t “if” Taiwan will submit to China, but rather “when0.

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Sep 2 2023 7:06 utc | 243

Taiwan’s importance to the U.S and potential as a trip-wire to war has nothing to do with the chip industry.
Taiwan was and is still regarded as the U.S’ “unsinkable aircraft carrier” in the South China Sea/Pacific.
Simply disemboweling it of it’s core industrial production won’t change that fact.
In fact, the effect may be the opposite of an off-ramp: The Chinese may read it (wrongly) as the US giving up on Taiwan now that the crown jewels are no longer located there and assume that the way is now open to complete the reunification of Taiwan with the mainland.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 2 2023 5:33 utc | 117

Full agreement on that. But you’re ignoring the political aspects.
The US can’t come out and plainly admit that it is holding on to Taiwan as an attack platform and threat against China. It would lose pretty much all of East Asian support, except perhaps Japan.
So the electorate that sees the “behind the curtains” are the truly important people.
The US wants to pretend as if it has the lock on those people.
LuRenJia masquerades as if he (no ambiguity in this asshole’s gender) knows what the “average” Taiwanese wants and knows, but I am literally living amongst rice fields in central Taiwan, chatting up (politely) hischoolers and working, day-by-day, with laborers, and I can tell you: from top to bottom, here in Taiwan, there is a deep suspicion of the American Plan for this place.
The question isn’t “if” Taiwan will submit to China, but rather “when0.

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Sep 2 2023 7:06 utc | 244

“if” Taiwan will submit to China
Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Sep 2 2023 7:06 utc | 123

Is “submit” the best word choice in this context?
Why choose it over “align”?

Posted by: too scents | Sep 2 2023 7:14 utc | 245

“if” Taiwan will submit to China
Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Sep 2 2023 7:06 utc | 123

Is “submit” the best word choice in this context?
Why choose it over “align”?

Posted by: too scents | Sep 2 2023 7:14 utc | 246

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Sep 2 2023 7:06 utc | 123
Is “submit” the best word choice in this context?
Why choose it over “align”?
Posted by: too scents | Sep 2 2023 7:14 utc | 12

Good point. Nicely offered. Personally, as a person who lives and loves in Formosa, I consider your objection as nothing more than wordplay.
The truth here is that a regional power is exerting dominance over a minor actor that is being overtly supported by a distant, regional aggressor.
Thinking about global relationships isn’t something most people can do, and sadly most Americans and NATOstanis are so badly inbred that “diplomacy” has literally ceased to be an employable skill.

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Sep 2 2023 7:31 utc | 247

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Sep 2 2023 7:06 utc | 123
Is “submit” the best word choice in this context?
Why choose it over “align”?
Posted by: too scents | Sep 2 2023 7:14 utc | 12

Good point. Nicely offered. Personally, as a person who lives and loves in Formosa, I consider your objection as nothing more than wordplay.
The truth here is that a regional power is exerting dominance over a minor actor that is being overtly supported by a distant, regional aggressor.
Thinking about global relationships isn’t something most people can do, and sadly most Americans and NATOstanis are so badly inbred that “diplomacy” has literally ceased to be an employable skill.

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Sep 2 2023 7:31 utc | 248

The Department of Commerce is owned by the Federal Reserve, Wall Street and the Bankers. Who Watched all the US industries and companies flock overseas to get cheap labor ? D o Commerce. Who gave the OK to let in all those foreign products packed on Walmart, Cosco and other shelves ? The D o Commerce. The Dept. of Commerce is just another back stabbing Agency in the Fake USG , that was out to destroy America’s Industries – Fact . I’m surprised they are even in the news – they must be getting nervous.

Posted by: GMC | Sep 2 2023 7:33 utc | 249

The Department of Commerce is owned by the Federal Reserve, Wall Street and the Bankers. Who Watched all the US industries and companies flock overseas to get cheap labor ? D o Commerce. Who gave the OK to let in all those foreign products packed on Walmart, Cosco and other shelves ? The D o Commerce. The Dept. of Commerce is just another back stabbing Agency in the Fake USG , that was out to destroy America’s Industries – Fact . I’m surprised they are even in the news – they must be getting nervous.

Posted by: GMC | Sep 2 2023 7:33 utc | 250

If the arrogant hubristic American government could not win in Viet Nam…Syria…Afghanistan…Ukraine then how in the world will they defeat China!? On the other side of the world!? Not to mention the US military’s ‘poverty draft’ of hillbilly trash and inner city ghetto types who couldn’t get a job anywhere else doesn’t add up to much of a fighting force. They’re gonna get their ass seriously kicked if they attack China and Taiwan.

Posted by: deschutes | Sep 2 2023 7:33 utc | 251

If the arrogant hubristic American government could not win in Viet Nam…Syria…Afghanistan…Ukraine then how in the world will they defeat China!? On the other side of the world!? Not to mention the US military’s ‘poverty draft’ of hillbilly trash and inner city ghetto types who couldn’t get a job anywhere else doesn’t add up to much of a fighting force. They’re gonna get their ass seriously kicked if they attack China and Taiwan.

Posted by: deschutes | Sep 2 2023 7:33 utc | 252

There is something definitely up. I’ve lived in midcoast Maine for 20 years. Suddenly, in the last few weeks, 1 or 2 low flying, slow planes pass overhead every couple evenings or nights. From east-northeast, heading west northwest, or reverse. One each way last evening, and one just a few minutes ago, at 2:22 am est.
It started with a pair of black, unmarked planes flying very close to each other…had to be military…late afternoon a few weeks ago.
We have very little military that I’m aware of. Small base in Houlton, on Canadian border,to my northeast. Bath Iron Works on coast 30 miles to my south. Armory in Augusta 30 miles to west-southwest.
But lots of “elites.” Rockefellers with a private airport on Bald Rock Mountain, outside Camden to my northeast. Eisenhowers in Camden. Valerie Jarrett had a place in Lincolnville beach just north of Camden. I ran into some Duponts at the pond 5 miles up the road from me.
A retired bankster where my town’s river meets the sea. And plenty more I’m not aware of.
Oh, John Roberts of USSC fell & hit his head up here a few years ago. Was treated in my hospital system.
As I said, in 20 years, retired the last 8 so home a lot, never seen low, slow flights evenings & nights before.
There was, before ’08, a few daytime scenic commercial flights for a year or so. A couple high out of Bangor & Portland International commercial routes in past. An occasional daytime private plane. That was it. Suddenly, now, every other night or 2.

Posted by: Mary | Sep 2 2023 7:43 utc | 253

There is something definitely up. I’ve lived in midcoast Maine for 20 years. Suddenly, in the last few weeks, 1 or 2 low flying, slow planes pass overhead every couple evenings or nights. From east-northeast, heading west northwest, or reverse. One each way last evening, and one just a few minutes ago, at 2:22 am est.
It started with a pair of black, unmarked planes flying very close to each other…had to be military…late afternoon a few weeks ago.
We have very little military that I’m aware of. Small base in Houlton, on Canadian border,to my northeast. Bath Iron Works on coast 30 miles to my south. Armory in Augusta 30 miles to west-southwest.
But lots of “elites.” Rockefellers with a private airport on Bald Rock Mountain, outside Camden to my northeast. Eisenhowers in Camden. Valerie Jarrett had a place in Lincolnville beach just north of Camden. I ran into some Duponts at the pond 5 miles up the road from me.
A retired bankster where my town’s river meets the sea. And plenty more I’m not aware of.
Oh, John Roberts of USSC fell & hit his head up here a few years ago. Was treated in my hospital system.
As I said, in 20 years, retired the last 8 so home a lot, never seen low, slow flights evenings & nights before.
There was, before ’08, a few daytime scenic commercial flights for a year or so. A couple high out of Bangor & Portland International commercial routes in past. An occasional daytime private plane. That was it. Suddenly, now, every other night or 2.

Posted by: Mary | Sep 2 2023 7:43 utc | 254

To: Immaculate deception | Sep 2 2023 1:22 utc | 86
All this talk about advanced chips is good. But, do I really need a refrigerator, washer dryer and toaster with a microchip? It does seem that everyone went chip crazy and put it into ordinary items that worked much better without them. For instance, my 25 year old washer and dryer works a lot better than anything that’s new. Any comments?

Totally agree. My mother’s fridge is 28 years old and makes strange noises. She asks if a new one shouldn’t been better.
I said a new one you maybe need one every, what, 5, 8, 3 years? And for a rocket that finds it’s target all you need is a
good old mature chip anyway.
But! The AI race is on, we are approaching calculating power getting closer to the human brain, real AI solutions are
popping up. And for this the big boys need huge amounts of server farms, AI related, right now utilizing GPUs. If their
energy use can be made more efficient, that would also be a big plus.
The US know this, China knows this. The Tencents, Alibabas, Baidus, TikToks just ordered the nerfed down GPUs from NVidia
for a billion each. Even Russia knows this. I don’t know how Russia plans to build their server farms. I guess world
market is big and borders are leaky. Once you have built a model, for interference you can get away with a smaller chip.

Posted by: C | Sep 2 2023 8:16 utc | 255

To: Immaculate deception | Sep 2 2023 1:22 utc | 86
All this talk about advanced chips is good. But, do I really need a refrigerator, washer dryer and toaster with a microchip? It does seem that everyone went chip crazy and put it into ordinary items that worked much better without them. For instance, my 25 year old washer and dryer works a lot better than anything that’s new. Any comments?

Totally agree. My mother’s fridge is 28 years old and makes strange noises. She asks if a new one shouldn’t been better.
I said a new one you maybe need one every, what, 5, 8, 3 years? And for a rocket that finds it’s target all you need is a
good old mature chip anyway.
But! The AI race is on, we are approaching calculating power getting closer to the human brain, real AI solutions are
popping up. And for this the big boys need huge amounts of server farms, AI related, right now utilizing GPUs. If their
energy use can be made more efficient, that would also be a big plus.
The US know this, China knows this. The Tencents, Alibabas, Baidus, TikToks just ordered the nerfed down GPUs from NVidia
for a billion each. Even Russia knows this. I don’t know how Russia plans to build their server farms. I guess world
market is big and borders are leaky. Once you have built a model, for interference you can get away with a smaller chip.

Posted by: C | Sep 2 2023 8:16 utc | 256

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Sep 2 2023 4:44 utc | 108
This proves that you have no authority of any kind to be “contributing” to any discussion of the “Taiwan Question”.
####
I beg your fucking pardon, arsehole.
I made no claims to “authority”.
I made no “contribution” to the “Taiwan Question” as you so fucking arogantly accused. Fyi, this is a public forum for queries, opinions and ideas. So dismount your high horse, fuckface.
I asked a fucking question in good faith out of learning, based on my own present level of understanding, and with self-admitted ignorance about the topic.
After reading your other posts, I’ve concluded that, despite being a knowledgeable long time resident of Formosa (the 19th Century Portugese name as you like to call it), you are a cunt of a person.
So go sit on a pineapple and rotate. I have no further interest in this thread full of so many bigots.
Adieu.

Posted by: SCCC | Sep 2 2023 8:37 utc | 257

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Sep 2 2023 4:44 utc | 108
This proves that you have no authority of any kind to be “contributing” to any discussion of the “Taiwan Question”.
####
I beg your fucking pardon, arsehole.
I made no claims to “authority”.
I made no “contribution” to the “Taiwan Question” as you so fucking arogantly accused. Fyi, this is a public forum for queries, opinions and ideas. So dismount your high horse, fuckface.
I asked a fucking question in good faith out of learning, based on my own present level of understanding, and with self-admitted ignorance about the topic.
After reading your other posts, I’ve concluded that, despite being a knowledgeable long time resident of Formosa (the 19th Century Portugese name as you like to call it), you are a cunt of a person.
So go sit on a pineapple and rotate. I have no further interest in this thread full of so many bigots.
Adieu.

Posted by: SCCC | Sep 2 2023 8:37 utc | 258

Posted by: Eri | Sep 2 2023 6:58 utc | 122
The Russians are cutting with the USA and EUrope like cutting a cancer out of their body.

Posted by: Passerby | Sep 2 2023 9:07 utc | 259

Posted by: Eri | Sep 2 2023 6:58 utc | 122
The Russians are cutting with the USA and EUrope like cutting a cancer out of their body.

Posted by: Passerby | Sep 2 2023 9:07 utc | 260

Interesting poster from 1971
https://www.classicposters.com/poster/271/
Posted by: Mantooth | Sep 1 2023 18:42 utc | 14
Yes, very interesting poster from ‘71 – and apropos to the thread. New Riders and Boz? Any idea on the history?

Posted by: Slim | Sep 2 2023 9:22 utc | 261

Interesting poster from 1971
https://www.classicposters.com/poster/271/
Posted by: Mantooth | Sep 1 2023 18:42 utc | 14
Yes, very interesting poster from ‘71 – and apropos to the thread. New Riders and Boz? Any idea on the history?

Posted by: Slim | Sep 2 2023 9:22 utc | 262

That might work. Taiwan grows only 35% of its food, so a blockade of the island could have fast results. Nor would the US be able to break the blockade, as the Americans know they would lose; this was admitted in 2021 by General John Hyten, then the Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. I think most Taiwanese can see though the DPP’s ceaseless propaganda; that was why the party lost so badly in the most recent election.
Posted by: Cyril | Sep 2 2023 0:47 utc | 81
That’s easy to solve, make sure the pro american kids are fed first, work them up and have them shoot anyone who is suspect of harbouring defeatist thoughts. A non issue really.
The problems are elsewhere.

Posted by: Satepestage | Sep 2 2023 9:27 utc | 263

That might work. Taiwan grows only 35% of its food, so a blockade of the island could have fast results. Nor would the US be able to break the blockade, as the Americans know they would lose; this was admitted in 2021 by General John Hyten, then the Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. I think most Taiwanese can see though the DPP’s ceaseless propaganda; that was why the party lost so badly in the most recent election.
Posted by: Cyril | Sep 2 2023 0:47 utc | 81
That’s easy to solve, make sure the pro american kids are fed first, work them up and have them shoot anyone who is suspect of harbouring defeatist thoughts. A non issue really.
The problems are elsewhere.

Posted by: Satepestage | Sep 2 2023 9:27 utc | 264

From east-northeast, heading west northwest, or reverse.
Posted by: Mary | Sep 2 2023 7:43 utc | 128
That doesn’t make sense.
Maybe if you give your coordinates and proper bearings
a couple of military locations may show up.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Sep 2 2023 9:27 utc | 265

From east-northeast, heading west northwest, or reverse.
Posted by: Mary | Sep 2 2023 7:43 utc | 128
That doesn’t make sense.
Maybe if you give your coordinates and proper bearings
a couple of military locations may show up.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Sep 2 2023 9:27 utc | 266

@Slim | Sep 2 2023 9:22 utc | 132

Yes, very interesting poster from ‘71 – and apropos to the thread. New Riders and Boz? Any idea on the history?

Map shows Europe. A simple web search shows the poster is ad for some american musician.

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 2 2023 9:33 utc | 267

@Slim | Sep 2 2023 9:22 utc | 132

Yes, very interesting poster from ‘71 – and apropos to the thread. New Riders and Boz? Any idea on the history?

Map shows Europe. A simple web search shows the poster is ad for some american musician.

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 2 2023 9:33 utc | 268

Trump should tell all his supporters to vote for rfk if they keep him from running.
That would set the whole house on fire. Rnc, dnc, deepstaters, neocons… they would all be set chess.
Posted by: Orgel | Sep 1 2023 21:51 utc | 59
That would sparkle! Historically speaking…in the future.

Posted by: Slim | Sep 2 2023 9:49 utc | 269

Trump should tell all his supporters to vote for rfk if they keep him from running.
That would set the whole house on fire. Rnc, dnc, deepstaters, neocons… they would all be set chess.
Posted by: Orgel | Sep 1 2023 21:51 utc | 59
That would sparkle! Historically speaking…in the future.

Posted by: Slim | Sep 2 2023 9:49 utc | 270

Posted by: C | Sep 2 2023 8:16 utc | 129
Would you kindly post some links to “real AI solutions” as well as some papers explaining en detail the method to measure and compare the human nervous system’s computing power to statistical machines crunching numbers that fart out ‘This is an Elephant’ because someone put a blue sticker on an apple?
As is, the whole AI shebang will be over in a few years time because generative models’ output is used to (re-)train models with which leads to model collapse.
Which is quite fitting, as it resembles how the crumbling Empire’ demise is due to, partly, ingesting its intellectual excrements in form of propaganda over and over again, leading to terminal degenerarion of its mental capability.
As DNNs ability to formulate complex algorithms based on training data:
lolwat? The very biggest problem with all these Neural Networks is the lack of explainability, the very lack of a specific algorithm to always end up at the same conclusion given an input.
The approach in neural networks is the complete antithesis of sound engineering principles.

Posted by: kspr | Sep 2 2023 9:49 utc | 271

Posted by: C | Sep 2 2023 8:16 utc | 129
Would you kindly post some links to “real AI solutions” as well as some papers explaining en detail the method to measure and compare the human nervous system’s computing power to statistical machines crunching numbers that fart out ‘This is an Elephant’ because someone put a blue sticker on an apple?
As is, the whole AI shebang will be over in a few years time because generative models’ output is used to (re-)train models with which leads to model collapse.
Which is quite fitting, as it resembles how the crumbling Empire’ demise is due to, partly, ingesting its intellectual excrements in form of propaganda over and over again, leading to terminal degenerarion of its mental capability.
As DNNs ability to formulate complex algorithms based on training data:
lolwat? The very biggest problem with all these Neural Networks is the lack of explainability, the very lack of a specific algorithm to always end up at the same conclusion given an input.
The approach in neural networks is the complete antithesis of sound engineering principles.

Posted by: kspr | Sep 2 2023 9:49 utc | 272

… The Unipolar Empire is dead.
Long live the Multipolar World Order.
Posted by: DunGroanin | Sep 1 2023 22:44 utc | 69
Hear Hear!

Posted by: Slim | Sep 2 2023 10:02 utc | 273

… The Unipolar Empire is dead.
Long live the Multipolar World Order.
Posted by: DunGroanin | Sep 1 2023 22:44 utc | 69
Hear Hear!

Posted by: Slim | Sep 2 2023 10:02 utc | 274

Here’s a piece I wrote at the time of Pelosi’s adventurous trip to Taïwan (with the probable phrasing mistakes):
IN THIS $IGN THOU SHALT CONQUER / TAÏWAN MON AMOUR
Trump, a candidate in the Republican primaries, recently made a joke about his atypical haircut that was very telling: « What’s the difference between a wet raccoon and Donald J. Trump’s hair? A raccoon doesn’t have seven fucking billion dollars in the bank! » In the land of Almighty Money, what could be more natural than wars waged in its name? $ : in hoc signo vinces, in this sign thou shalt conquer. Every religion has its wars.
Those of the hegemonic dollar, according to Oleg Nesterenko, President of the CCIE in Paris, began more than twenty years ago when sovereign nations questioned their submission to the imperial currency: because Saddam Hussein and Muammar Gaddafi were considering breaking away from the monetary straitjacket imposed on world trade by the United States, Iraq and Libya were destroyed and then plunged into chaos, and both were brutally murdered.
Economist Michael Hudson argues that « The only possible way for history really to end would be for the American military to destroy every nation seeking an alternative to neoliberal privatization and financialization.»
But today the modus operandi has changed.
After the Afghan fiasco, the unpopularity of distant wars, whose justifications are increasingly abstruse and whose underlying lies are more and more obvious, is growing among the American people. In turn, the US military is finding it increasingly difficult to recruit cannon fodder that is less willing to fight and die for uncertain causes. American patriotism no longer appeals and cohorts of veterans physically and psychologically mutilated by years of service to the flag live on the sidewalks of major American cities.
Now that Russia is the target, Ukraine serves as the sacrificial lamb.
The Ukrainians are in a way inaugurating a new way for Uncle Sam to wage war, until it is fully automated. It is based on two main axes: the overthrow of legitimately elected governments that resist hegemonism, thanks to the support of fierce pro-Western oppositions, fruits of long-term influence peddling – in Ukraine, neo-Nazi groupuscules – and the use of an extra-territorial military force, both local, trained, financed and equipped from outside, but also international, in this case NATO, teleguided from Washington and subject to its desires.
NATO, that soulless monster born of the Cold War, embodies by nature and definition the will to crush all resistance to US domination of the world. Dormant since its creation, and although it should have died a natural death in 1991 with the collapse of the Soviet bloc, it was reanimated the following year in the former Yugoslavia and began its expansion across Europe, moving ever closer to the Russian borders.
The Russian-Ukrainian war is in fact the culmination of this cold latent war between two blocs: the « collective » West gathered under the Atlanticist banner, against Russia, the first pole of resistance to the economic diktats of the United States on the world.
Ukraine has already lost the war, yet it is undeniably a half-victory for Washington: relations between the European Union and Russia have been cut off cleanly, Ukrainian blood is flowing from the wound, and soon that of the Western proletariat, which will also end up suffering from the industrial and economic ruin provoked by the suicidal herd instinct of its leaders.
But behind Russia looms another target: China.
——————————————————————————————-
The incessant anti-China campaigns patiently distilled in the Western press, media and social networks are a sign of a progressive shift of the US sights from Ukraine to the China Sea, the seat of the White House’s new tricks.
Now, when one wonders who will lead the new proxy war, the recent American gesticulations seem to point to the « beautiful island » of Taiwan, which has been the object of claims by the People’s Republic of China for more than 75 years, and which is treated by the West as a nation in its own right, even though it is not recognised as such by the UN: as usual the West is not sparing with small pleasures when it wants to irritate those who resist its appeal.
But will the Taiwanese people have the same take on it? Nothing is less certain. The interweaving of factors that in Ukraine led to the current conflict does not exist in Taiwan.
There is no fratricidal dispute between Taiwan and China. Although China claims the island as an indisputable part of its territory, it has never, in more than three-quarters of a century, initiated the slightest violent action to regain possession of it, even though the island lies a few fathoms off its coast. On the contrary, it has always favoured patience and peaceful influence games to tip the balance towards a future self-determinated return to the mainland. Of course it has made regular displays of force in the Taiwan Strait, but mostly as a warning to any nation inclined to meddle in its local affairs, foremost of which, of course, is the United States of America, which has military bases totalling more than 100,000 troops in China’s immediate vicinity, including 50,000 in Japan, 30,000 in South Korea, and 15,000 on the island of Guam and the Philippines. Can you imagine 100,000 Chinese troops surrounding the United States?
In Taiwan, there are no viscerally anti-Chinese paramilitary groups advocating the outright disappearance of China and calling for the killing of Chinese people, as was the case in Ukraine before the start of the conflict against the Russian-speaking population. The Minjindang (Party of the Advancing People) or DPP ( Democratic Progressive Party) is, in the Taiwanese political sphere, the most virulent opposition to China. This pro-Western and pro-independence party, which is also close to the Japanese government and has been in power since 2016, is the stepping stone for the American interference strategy. However, encouraged by Washington to strengthen the militarisation of the island in anticipation of a supposedly imminent Chinese attack, the DPP is showing a laissez-faire attitude that risks costing it power. In 1972, in the Shanghai communiqué, the US made it clear that « [it] recognizes that all Chinese on both sides of the Taiwan Strait hold that there is only one China and that Taiwan is part of China. The US government does not dispute this position. » So much for keeping one’s word. But we’re beginning to know that. China, through its consular offices, described Nancy Pelosi’s visit as « nothing to do with democracy. Rather, it is a political stunt and a serious provocation that undermines China’s sovereignty and territorial integrity, goes against the will of more than 1.4 billion Chinese and challenges the international consensus on One China. » Just two months later, the DPP, the party of incumbent President Cài Yīngwén, lost the municipal elections.
It is not very difficult to connect the dots between Cài’s admission in 2021 that there were some twenty American military trainers on the island, Pelosi’s visit, the Chinese sanctions that followed and the DPP’s score in the municipal elections. Taiwan’s industrial sector, which, like everywhere else, is decisive in the choice of leadership and whose main economic partner is currently China, accounting for an overwhelming majority of trade, is hopefully not as profoundly stupid as the leaders of the largest Western European nations who have just scuttled their economies for the sole purpose of pleasing the master in Washington.
Depending on Taiwan’s next presidential elections in 2024, the dark designs that an unpredictable America has for the small island are rather fragile or at least hazardous. If the current president of Taiwan is at great risk of losing these elections, it remains to be seen whether it will be to the advantage of the Guomindang, which favours reunification with China, or to that of the outsider William Lai, who has a harder line on independence.
If the intention of the United States, determined to maintain its hegemony and that of its currency, is always to provoke the Chinese giant, to push it into error and thus destabilise its economy, in which direction, in the event of the defeat of the DPP, is it then likely to turn to find a substitute in Taiwan capable of carrying out this mission?
Well, you don’t have to be a rocket scientist to know that.
Which state has been held on a short leash by the United States for almost 80 years without ever having questioned this servitude? Which nation has obeyed its master’s every word despite the worst atrocities the latter has inflicted on it? Which country has just announced its massive remilitarisation despite Article 9 of its Constitution stating that it « forever renounces war as a sovereign right of the nation. » ?
Japan. A country where anti-Chinese ultra-nationalism is still very much alive, encouraged even by the highest leaders of the state, where the latter shamelessly continue to honour the war criminals who operated during the occupation of China, especially in Nanjing.
A rearming Japan is as good news for China as a rearming Germany is for France.
Time will tell.

Posted by: xiao pignouf | Sep 2 2023 10:52 utc | 275

Here’s a piece I wrote at the time of Pelosi’s adventurous trip to Taïwan (with the probable phrasing mistakes):
IN THIS $IGN THOU SHALT CONQUER / TAÏWAN MON AMOUR
Trump, a candidate in the Republican primaries, recently made a joke about his atypical haircut that was very telling: « What’s the difference between a wet raccoon and Donald J. Trump’s hair? A raccoon doesn’t have seven fucking billion dollars in the bank! » In the land of Almighty Money, what could be more natural than wars waged in its name? $ : in hoc signo vinces, in this sign thou shalt conquer. Every religion has its wars.
Those of the hegemonic dollar, according to Oleg Nesterenko, President of the CCIE in Paris, began more than twenty years ago when sovereign nations questioned their submission to the imperial currency: because Saddam Hussein and Muammar Gaddafi were considering breaking away from the monetary straitjacket imposed on world trade by the United States, Iraq and Libya were destroyed and then plunged into chaos, and both were brutally murdered.
Economist Michael Hudson argues that « The only possible way for history really to end would be for the American military to destroy every nation seeking an alternative to neoliberal privatization and financialization.»
But today the modus operandi has changed.
After the Afghan fiasco, the unpopularity of distant wars, whose justifications are increasingly abstruse and whose underlying lies are more and more obvious, is growing among the American people. In turn, the US military is finding it increasingly difficult to recruit cannon fodder that is less willing to fight and die for uncertain causes. American patriotism no longer appeals and cohorts of veterans physically and psychologically mutilated by years of service to the flag live on the sidewalks of major American cities.
Now that Russia is the target, Ukraine serves as the sacrificial lamb.
The Ukrainians are in a way inaugurating a new way for Uncle Sam to wage war, until it is fully automated. It is based on two main axes: the overthrow of legitimately elected governments that resist hegemonism, thanks to the support of fierce pro-Western oppositions, fruits of long-term influence peddling – in Ukraine, neo-Nazi groupuscules – and the use of an extra-territorial military force, both local, trained, financed and equipped from outside, but also international, in this case NATO, teleguided from Washington and subject to its desires.
NATO, that soulless monster born of the Cold War, embodies by nature and definition the will to crush all resistance to US domination of the world. Dormant since its creation, and although it should have died a natural death in 1991 with the collapse of the Soviet bloc, it was reanimated the following year in the former Yugoslavia and began its expansion across Europe, moving ever closer to the Russian borders.
The Russian-Ukrainian war is in fact the culmination of this cold latent war between two blocs: the « collective » West gathered under the Atlanticist banner, against Russia, the first pole of resistance to the economic diktats of the United States on the world.
Ukraine has already lost the war, yet it is undeniably a half-victory for Washington: relations between the European Union and Russia have been cut off cleanly, Ukrainian blood is flowing from the wound, and soon that of the Western proletariat, which will also end up suffering from the industrial and economic ruin provoked by the suicidal herd instinct of its leaders.
But behind Russia looms another target: China.
——————————————————————————————-
The incessant anti-China campaigns patiently distilled in the Western press, media and social networks are a sign of a progressive shift of the US sights from Ukraine to the China Sea, the seat of the White House’s new tricks.
Now, when one wonders who will lead the new proxy war, the recent American gesticulations seem to point to the « beautiful island » of Taiwan, which has been the object of claims by the People’s Republic of China for more than 75 years, and which is treated by the West as a nation in its own right, even though it is not recognised as such by the UN: as usual the West is not sparing with small pleasures when it wants to irritate those who resist its appeal.
But will the Taiwanese people have the same take on it? Nothing is less certain. The interweaving of factors that in Ukraine led to the current conflict does not exist in Taiwan.
There is no fratricidal dispute between Taiwan and China. Although China claims the island as an indisputable part of its territory, it has never, in more than three-quarters of a century, initiated the slightest violent action to regain possession of it, even though the island lies a few fathoms off its coast. On the contrary, it has always favoured patience and peaceful influence games to tip the balance towards a future self-determinated return to the mainland. Of course it has made regular displays of force in the Taiwan Strait, but mostly as a warning to any nation inclined to meddle in its local affairs, foremost of which, of course, is the United States of America, which has military bases totalling more than 100,000 troops in China’s immediate vicinity, including 50,000 in Japan, 30,000 in South Korea, and 15,000 on the island of Guam and the Philippines. Can you imagine 100,000 Chinese troops surrounding the United States?
In Taiwan, there are no viscerally anti-Chinese paramilitary groups advocating the outright disappearance of China and calling for the killing of Chinese people, as was the case in Ukraine before the start of the conflict against the Russian-speaking population. The Minjindang (Party of the Advancing People) or DPP ( Democratic Progressive Party) is, in the Taiwanese political sphere, the most virulent opposition to China. This pro-Western and pro-independence party, which is also close to the Japanese government and has been in power since 2016, is the stepping stone for the American interference strategy. However, encouraged by Washington to strengthen the militarisation of the island in anticipation of a supposedly imminent Chinese attack, the DPP is showing a laissez-faire attitude that risks costing it power. In 1972, in the Shanghai communiqué, the US made it clear that « [it] recognizes that all Chinese on both sides of the Taiwan Strait hold that there is only one China and that Taiwan is part of China. The US government does not dispute this position. » So much for keeping one’s word. But we’re beginning to know that. China, through its consular offices, described Nancy Pelosi’s visit as « nothing to do with democracy. Rather, it is a political stunt and a serious provocation that undermines China’s sovereignty and territorial integrity, goes against the will of more than 1.4 billion Chinese and challenges the international consensus on One China. » Just two months later, the DPP, the party of incumbent President Cài Yīngwén, lost the municipal elections.
It is not very difficult to connect the dots between Cài’s admission in 2021 that there were some twenty American military trainers on the island, Pelosi’s visit, the Chinese sanctions that followed and the DPP’s score in the municipal elections. Taiwan’s industrial sector, which, like everywhere else, is decisive in the choice of leadership and whose main economic partner is currently China, accounting for an overwhelming majority of trade, is hopefully not as profoundly stupid as the leaders of the largest Western European nations who have just scuttled their economies for the sole purpose of pleasing the master in Washington.
Depending on Taiwan’s next presidential elections in 2024, the dark designs that an unpredictable America has for the small island are rather fragile or at least hazardous. If the current president of Taiwan is at great risk of losing these elections, it remains to be seen whether it will be to the advantage of the Guomindang, which favours reunification with China, or to that of the outsider William Lai, who has a harder line on independence.
If the intention of the United States, determined to maintain its hegemony and that of its currency, is always to provoke the Chinese giant, to push it into error and thus destabilise its economy, in which direction, in the event of the defeat of the DPP, is it then likely to turn to find a substitute in Taiwan capable of carrying out this mission?
Well, you don’t have to be a rocket scientist to know that.
Which state has been held on a short leash by the United States for almost 80 years without ever having questioned this servitude? Which nation has obeyed its master’s every word despite the worst atrocities the latter has inflicted on it? Which country has just announced its massive remilitarisation despite Article 9 of its Constitution stating that it « forever renounces war as a sovereign right of the nation. » ?
Japan. A country where anti-Chinese ultra-nationalism is still very much alive, encouraged even by the highest leaders of the state, where the latter shamelessly continue to honour the war criminals who operated during the occupation of China, especially in Nanjing.
A rearming Japan is as good news for China as a rearming Germany is for France.
Time will tell.

Posted by: xiao pignouf | Sep 2 2023 10:52 utc | 276

Re Pentagon lying
Do barflies know any historical examples of what happens to nations and its citizenry that gutters national prestige like this? The US may well be laying the foundations for its people to be stereotyped as untrustworthy thugs for centuries to come.

Posted by: caal | Sep 2 2023 11:07 utc | 277

Re Pentagon lying
Do barflies know any historical examples of what happens to nations and its citizenry that gutters national prestige like this? The US may well be laying the foundations for its people to be stereotyped as untrustworthy thugs for centuries to come.

Posted by: caal | Sep 2 2023 11:07 utc | 278

Posted by: caal | Sep 2 2023 11:07 utc | 140
well the department of war has been lying for a long time, and Hollywood has helped it overcome this so far. how long will that last? i believe it is on the road to ending.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 2 2023 11:13 utc | 279

Posted by: caal | Sep 2 2023 11:07 utc | 140
well the department of war has been lying for a long time, and Hollywood has helped it overcome this so far. how long will that last? i believe it is on the road to ending.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 2 2023 11:13 utc | 280

Posted by: Slim | Sep 2 2023 9:22 utc | 132
at a guess New Riders of the Purple Sage and Boz Skaggs.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 2 2023 11:14 utc | 281

Posted by: Slim | Sep 2 2023 9:22 utc | 132
at a guess New Riders of the Purple Sage and Boz Skaggs.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 2 2023 11:14 utc | 282

Appliances have no need of the latest microchips. They’re pretty much limited in application to things like smartphones and computers rather than most IoT applications. For example, a leading edge MCU like the 500MHz STM32H7 series is made with 40nm technology.
If China can grab a large market share of high-volume 28nm and larger chips they can gain some of the money that pays for the higher technology manufacturing equipment and chips. At some point (probably during a recession) a combination of a glut of single-digit nm part capacity and shrinking demand (people keeping their cell phone for an extra year or two) and reduced demand for mature technology chips (due to recession and favorable prices and availability from China) could be expected to lead to consolidation in the industry and perhaps some favorable (for China) changes allowing them to catch up. Of course with government subsidies, the needed consolidation might not occur.
The forced transfer of technology and manufacturing capacity by TSMC to the US and Europe might be seen as an off-ramp for war, but could also be interpreted as a move that enables war (or blackmail by the credible threat of war) by minimizing the potential collateral damage to Western business interests. I’m not optimistic because if you look at actions rather than words, the trends are consistent.

Posted by: BillB | Sep 2 2023 11:48 utc | 283

Appliances have no need of the latest microchips. They’re pretty much limited in application to things like smartphones and computers rather than most IoT applications. For example, a leading edge MCU like the 500MHz STM32H7 series is made with 40nm technology.
If China can grab a large market share of high-volume 28nm and larger chips they can gain some of the money that pays for the higher technology manufacturing equipment and chips. At some point (probably during a recession) a combination of a glut of single-digit nm part capacity and shrinking demand (people keeping their cell phone for an extra year or two) and reduced demand for mature technology chips (due to recession and favorable prices and availability from China) could be expected to lead to consolidation in the industry and perhaps some favorable (for China) changes allowing them to catch up. Of course with government subsidies, the needed consolidation might not occur.
The forced transfer of technology and manufacturing capacity by TSMC to the US and Europe might be seen as an off-ramp for war, but could also be interpreted as a move that enables war (or blackmail by the credible threat of war) by minimizing the potential collateral damage to Western business interests. I’m not optimistic because if you look at actions rather than words, the trends are consistent.

Posted by: BillB | Sep 2 2023 11:48 utc | 284

We might could get competitive if’n more of us ‘Muricans got good at math and physics, and was willin’ to work 3rd shift in a fact’ry! But Hell, all y’all gotta do is look at who makes up the majority of STEM grad students in this country. Good Night, Irene. 😥

Posted by: OldFart | Sep 2 2023 11:59 utc | 285

We might could get competitive if’n more of us ‘Muricans got good at math and physics, and was willin’ to work 3rd shift in a fact’ry! But Hell, all y’all gotta do is look at who makes up the majority of STEM grad students in this country. Good Night, Irene. 😥

Posted by: OldFart | Sep 2 2023 11:59 utc | 286

Gruff @ 55
No judge relinquishes control of his courtroom to television producers. Televised trials are all fake, all spectacles having nothing to do with ordinary judicial process.

Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 2 2023 12:12 utc | 287

Gruff @ 55
No judge relinquishes control of his courtroom to television producers. Televised trials are all fake, all spectacles having nothing to do with ordinary judicial process.

Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 2 2023 12:12 utc | 288

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Sep 2 2023 1:22 utc | 86
Part of the whole PR on ‘smart appliances’ is they will use less water, less energy, save money and ‘save the planet’; blah, blah, blah. They don’t tell you the ‘smart’ appliances are basically, disposable.
My accountant’s mother died in 2013 at the age of 97; at her massive stone cottage in Northern Ontario she had a white, heavy General Electric stove that she bought in 1936. In 2012 she cooked me and my accountant dinner. She was a Scot, had oodles of dough but she didn’t want, ‘any fancy things’. The stove lasted 77 years.
The problem is (same with cars) the electrics die (you can fix them but the cost is about the same as buying a new one) in 5 or 6 years and the ‘smart’ stove or dishwashers get thrown into landfill instead of working another 25 years or so.
Not t mention that if you hook into the grid with your ‘smart’ furnace the gov. can control your heating and cooling remotely..
Another consumer scam in my opinion.

Posted by: canuck | Sep 2 2023 12:35 utc | 289

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Sep 2 2023 1:22 utc | 86
Part of the whole PR on ‘smart appliances’ is they will use less water, less energy, save money and ‘save the planet’; blah, blah, blah. They don’t tell you the ‘smart’ appliances are basically, disposable.
My accountant’s mother died in 2013 at the age of 97; at her massive stone cottage in Northern Ontario she had a white, heavy General Electric stove that she bought in 1936. In 2012 she cooked me and my accountant dinner. She was a Scot, had oodles of dough but she didn’t want, ‘any fancy things’. The stove lasted 77 years.
The problem is (same with cars) the electrics die (you can fix them but the cost is about the same as buying a new one) in 5 or 6 years and the ‘smart’ stove or dishwashers get thrown into landfill instead of working another 25 years or so.
Not t mention that if you hook into the grid with your ‘smart’ furnace the gov. can control your heating and cooling remotely..
Another consumer scam in my opinion.

Posted by: canuck | Sep 2 2023 12:35 utc | 290

do I really need a refrigerator, washer dryer and toaster with a microchip?

this is all dual use military technology. when you have a centrally controlled command economy like china you manufacture all of the components you need for weapons separately through a variety of different companies and put them into consumer goods in order to subsidize the cost. when the war starts, the exports stop, and all of those components make weapons instead of trinkets for idiot westerners.
every cellphone is a package of components that make a drone. china can switch from producing 100’s of millions of cellphones to producing 100’s of millions of drones literally be flipping a switch.
this war was over a long time ago.

Posted by: harshreality | Sep 2 2023 12:37 utc | 291

do I really need a refrigerator, washer dryer and toaster with a microchip?

this is all dual use military technology. when you have a centrally controlled command economy like china you manufacture all of the components you need for weapons separately through a variety of different companies and put them into consumer goods in order to subsidize the cost. when the war starts, the exports stop, and all of those components make weapons instead of trinkets for idiot westerners.
every cellphone is a package of components that make a drone. china can switch from producing 100’s of millions of cellphones to producing 100’s of millions of drones literally be flipping a switch.
this war was over a long time ago.

Posted by: harshreality | Sep 2 2023 12:37 utc | 292

With all the talk about old washers and dryers being better than new ones, I’d like to chime in to say that when our 35-year-old dryer died two years ago my wife and I installed an outside clothes line and an inside one in the cellar by the furnace for rainy day and winter drying. There’s nothing like sleeping on sheets that have been dried in a breeze in the sunshine. Our old General Electric washer is still running strong but an appliance repairman advised that when it dies the best replacement would be a Kenmore Elite from Sears.

Posted by: Chas | Sep 2 2023 13:01 utc | 293

With all the talk about old washers and dryers being better than new ones, I’d like to chime in to say that when our 35-year-old dryer died two years ago my wife and I installed an outside clothes line and an inside one in the cellar by the furnace for rainy day and winter drying. There’s nothing like sleeping on sheets that have been dried in a breeze in the sunshine. Our old General Electric washer is still running strong but an appliance repairman advised that when it dies the best replacement would be a Kenmore Elite from Sears.

Posted by: Chas | Sep 2 2023 13:01 utc | 294

“As The U.S. Wages War On It China Reacts With Defiance”
The word “Defiance” is inappropriate.
It implies a reaction against legitimate authority.
Don’t do it again!

Posted by: Bilejones | Sep 2 2023 13:06 utc | 295

“As The U.S. Wages War On It China Reacts With Defiance”
The word “Defiance” is inappropriate.
It implies a reaction against legitimate authority.
Don’t do it again!

Posted by: Bilejones | Sep 2 2023 13:06 utc | 296

If all the Biden admin is doing by sending their stooges over to China is to play to a domestic audience, which is indeed true, I believe, then why is China playing along? Why not just shut the door and say “you’re unwelcome here?”
Or do it diplomatically – receive tools like Raimondo, but have her met by some low-level functionary, and take her to a bad restaurant.
Way off topic – it’s September, and Turkey has not done squat to put the admission of Sweden into NATO before parliament. The story seems to have disappeared from the press.
Did Borrell and the rest of the Western cucks get played by Erdo, yet again?

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Sep 2 2023 13:12 utc | 297

If all the Biden admin is doing by sending their stooges over to China is to play to a domestic audience, which is indeed true, I believe, then why is China playing along? Why not just shut the door and say “you’re unwelcome here?”
Or do it diplomatically – receive tools like Raimondo, but have her met by some low-level functionary, and take her to a bad restaurant.
Way off topic – it’s September, and Turkey has not done squat to put the admission of Sweden into NATO before parliament. The story seems to have disappeared from the press.
Did Borrell and the rest of the Western cucks get played by Erdo, yet again?

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Sep 2 2023 13:12 utc | 298

China Launches Large H2 project in Inner Mongolia
https://www.seetao.com/details/203802.html
Recently, Sinopec announced that China’s largest green electricity hydrogen production project – the green hydrogen chemical demonstration project in Wushen Banner, Ordos City, Inner Mongolia, was officially launched.
The project uses the abundant solar and wind energy resources in the Ordos area to generate electricity and directly produce hydrogen. This kind of hydrogen produced by using renewable energy without carbon emissions is called green hydrogen. After the project is put into operation, 30,000 tons of green hydrogen can be produced annually.

Displacing H2 sourced from Coal…
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 2 2023 13:18 utc | 299

China Launches Large H2 project in Inner Mongolia
https://www.seetao.com/details/203802.html
Recently, Sinopec announced that China’s largest green electricity hydrogen production project – the green hydrogen chemical demonstration project in Wushen Banner, Ordos City, Inner Mongolia, was officially launched.
The project uses the abundant solar and wind energy resources in the Ordos area to generate electricity and directly produce hydrogen. This kind of hydrogen produced by using renewable energy without carbon emissions is called green hydrogen. After the project is put into operation, 30,000 tons of green hydrogen can be produced annually.

Displacing H2 sourced from Coal…
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Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 2 2023 13:18 utc | 300