Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
September 29, 2023
After Pushing Gains By Ukraine NYT Notes Its Losses

The New York Times reporting on Ukraine seems inconsistent. It was all about gains and going forward:

But a week after the above a different headline appeared:

That headline is contradicted by the content of the piece.

As Antiwar summarizes:

Russian forces have gained more territory in Ukraine this year than the Ukrainian side despite the Ukrainian counteroffensive that was launched in June, The New York Times reported on Thursday.

The report noted that despite nine months of heavy fighting in Ukraine, only about 500 square miles of territory have changed hands this year. Russia has gained 331 square miles while Ukraine has gained 143, a difference of 188, which amounts to Russia’s net gain in territory so far this year.

Contradicting its headline the NYT graphics department admits as much.



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Russia is fighting a war of attrition:

The Times quoted Marina Miron, a postdoctoral researcher in war studies at King’s College London, who said Russia appears to be comfortable holding the territory it currently controls rather than seeking rapid gains.

“It’s not losing anything by not moving forward,” Miron said. “The whole strategy in Ukraine is for the Russians to let the Ukrainians run against those defenses, kill as many as possible, and destroy as much Western equipment as possible.”

As the Zelinski regime senselessly continues to push its army against the hardened Russian defense line there is no need for Russia's military to move forward. The numbers and time is on its side. It is Ukraine that has a mobilization problem, not Russia.

This thus will end badly for Ukraine with nothing to gain but likely many more losses.

Comments

Finally someone at the NY Times learned how to read a map!

Posted by: Chicago Bob | Sep 29 2023 10:25 utc | 1

Finally someone at the NY Times learned how to read a map!

Posted by: Chicago Bob | Sep 29 2023 10:25 utc | 2

Plus the rate of Ukrainian surrenders continues to accelerate. I think it’s 11,000 this month…

Posted by: Gerry Bell | Sep 29 2023 10:26 utc | 3

Plus the rate of Ukrainian surrenders continues to accelerate. I think it’s 11,000 this month…

Posted by: Gerry Bell | Sep 29 2023 10:26 utc | 4

Interestingly, this seems to be Mao’s method of defeating his opponents: eliminating their forces rather than occupying territory.

Posted by: Colin | Sep 29 2023 10:26 utc | 5

Interestingly, this seems to be Mao’s method of defeating his opponents: eliminating their forces rather than occupying territory.

Posted by: Colin | Sep 29 2023 10:26 utc | 6

Today I watched a video on Telegram of 5 Ukrainian soldiers trying to surrender to the Chechens, whereupon they were shelled and fired on with mortar bombs by the Ukranazis. At least one was injured, but fortunately they seem to have surrendered successfully.
https://t.me/myLordBebo/8181
So bad is the situation for Ukranazistan that they are now stealing Russian MoD videos of Ukrainian soldiers surrendering and passing them off as Russian soldiers being captured by Ukranazistan:
https://twitter.com/GeromanAT/status/1707438181866512457

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Sep 29 2023 10:34 utc | 7

Today I watched a video on Telegram of 5 Ukrainian soldiers trying to surrender to the Chechens, whereupon they were shelled and fired on with mortar bombs by the Ukranazis. At least one was injured, but fortunately they seem to have surrendered successfully.
https://t.me/myLordBebo/8181
So bad is the situation for Ukranazistan that they are now stealing Russian MoD videos of Ukrainian soldiers surrendering and passing them off as Russian soldiers being captured by Ukranazistan:
https://twitter.com/GeromanAT/status/1707438181866512457

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Sep 29 2023 10:34 utc | 8

I imagine the TrollTeam briefing was somewhat subdued this morning on the news of 10,000 Ukrainian (soldiers? women?
children? and old men?) surrendering at once! Is there anything like it in the history of war?

Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Sep 29 2023 10:38 utc | 9

I imagine the TrollTeam briefing was somewhat subdued this morning on the news of 10,000 Ukrainian (soldiers? women?
children? and old men?) surrendering at once! Is there anything like it in the history of war?

Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Sep 29 2023 10:38 utc | 10

@5 In the Battle of Stalingrad 1942-43 90,000 soldiers under general Paulus surrendered to the Soviet army.

Posted by: canuck | Sep 29 2023 11:03 utc | 11

@5 In the Battle of Stalingrad 1942-43 90,000 soldiers under general Paulus surrendered to the Soviet army.

Posted by: canuck | Sep 29 2023 11:03 utc | 12

Ms. Marina Miron better update her resume. Telling the truth like that is a big no-no in the West.

Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy | Sep 29 2023 11:07 utc | 13

Ms. Marina Miron better update her resume. Telling the truth like that is a big no-no in the West.

Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy | Sep 29 2023 11:07 utc | 14

Thank you @6, I can see the headline now “Russian Army not up to WW2 standards”

Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Sep 29 2023 11:11 utc | 15

Thank you @6, I can see the headline now “Russian Army not up to WW2 standards”

Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Sep 29 2023 11:11 utc | 16

Russia is hosting the BRICS Games in June 2024.
Thus, I suspect no Russian offensive until after the Russian Elections and after the BRICS Games – so we’re looking now at July 2024 – in 9-10 months.
I predict July – November 2024 things are going to reach a crescendo in Ukraine – and global energy markets.
Plenty of think time between now and then.

Posted by: Julian | Sep 29 2023 11:13 utc | 17

Russia is hosting the BRICS Games in June 2024.
Thus, I suspect no Russian offensive until after the Russian Elections and after the BRICS Games – so we’re looking now at July 2024 – in 9-10 months.
I predict July – November 2024 things are going to reach a crescendo in Ukraine – and global energy markets.
Plenty of think time between now and then.

Posted by: Julian | Sep 29 2023 11:13 utc | 18

We have always insided that the rear military and security officials are mired in corruption. Now many people have started writing about this. Most likely, they are tired of remaining silent and watching the country go downhill.
The scheme that the Ukrainian journalist published is primitive, just like the brains of officials.
Scheme:
1. The security forces, as raiders on fictitious cases, squeezed out someone’s property, assets, cars, etc.
2. Rear military officials took it (on paper), it’s like helping the army. Security forces and judges in the topic and scheme.
3. Physically, all this was sold, but according to the papers it was lost or burned during raids on warehouses, or was allegedly transferred to the front line as help to the army, and there it was “lost as a result of hostilities.”
4. If you argued in court that everything was confiscated illegally, then you had nothing to return. Everything was “burned out”.
Everything, even humanitarian aid, is written off under the scheme of raids on warehouses. Ukraine is so mired in corruption and lawlessness that it can easily compete with Somalia. We often wrote that rear officials steal everything because they understood that war is a business.
The time will come and they will begin to publish schemes of how Ermak and his henchmen bought fictitious weapons worth billions.

https://t.me/legitimniy/16362

Posted by: Down South | Sep 29 2023 11:29 utc | 19

We have always insided that the rear military and security officials are mired in corruption. Now many people have started writing about this. Most likely, they are tired of remaining silent and watching the country go downhill.
The scheme that the Ukrainian journalist published is primitive, just like the brains of officials.
Scheme:
1. The security forces, as raiders on fictitious cases, squeezed out someone’s property, assets, cars, etc.
2. Rear military officials took it (on paper), it’s like helping the army. Security forces and judges in the topic and scheme.
3. Physically, all this was sold, but according to the papers it was lost or burned during raids on warehouses, or was allegedly transferred to the front line as help to the army, and there it was “lost as a result of hostilities.”
4. If you argued in court that everything was confiscated illegally, then you had nothing to return. Everything was “burned out”.
Everything, even humanitarian aid, is written off under the scheme of raids on warehouses. Ukraine is so mired in corruption and lawlessness that it can easily compete with Somalia. We often wrote that rear officials steal everything because they understood that war is a business.
The time will come and they will begin to publish schemes of how Ermak and his henchmen bought fictitious weapons worth billions.

https://t.me/legitimniy/16362

Posted by: Down South | Sep 29 2023 11:29 utc | 20

@9
While Shoigu, in his recent speech, did indicate the end of smo by 2025 I will be surprised that something will not happen way before US presidential elections.
By the way energy global markets are already in a crescendo. Oil is up to 93 today.
Gas seems to be a little quiter, here in Europe, but we are not in the winter period. If, unfortunately, we should face a cold winter gas prices will skyrocket before july/November 2024.

Posted by: Mario | Sep 29 2023 11:30 utc | 21

@9
While Shoigu, in his recent speech, did indicate the end of smo by 2025 I will be surprised that something will not happen way before US presidential elections.
By the way energy global markets are already in a crescendo. Oil is up to 93 today.
Gas seems to be a little quiter, here in Europe, but we are not in the winter period. If, unfortunately, we should face a cold winter gas prices will skyrocket before july/November 2024.

Posted by: Mario | Sep 29 2023 11:30 utc | 22

WW III looks WW I: thousands of plebs die for little territorial gain, remotely controlled by some Big egos far away – in the West now. More a battle of will power.
Best command I read about the US ‘strategy’ of spending only 5% of the US defense budget on Ukraine to diminish the Russian forces by ~50%: “so where are the other 95% used for?”

Posted by: Antonym | Sep 29 2023 11:31 utc | 23

WW III looks WW I: thousands of plebs die for little territorial gain, remotely controlled by some Big egos far away – in the West now. More a battle of will power.
Best command I read about the US ‘strategy’ of spending only 5% of the US defense budget on Ukraine to diminish the Russian forces by ~50%: “so where are the other 95% used for?”

Posted by: Antonym | Sep 29 2023 11:31 utc | 24

“so where are the other 95% used for?”
Posted by: Antonym | Sep 29 2023 11:31 utc | 12
The worldwide network of golf courses and “retirement”

Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Sep 29 2023 11:38 utc | 25

“so where are the other 95% used for?”
Posted by: Antonym | Sep 29 2023 11:31 utc | 12
The worldwide network of golf courses and “retirement”

Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Sep 29 2023 11:38 utc | 26

@12 @13
Don’t forget some nice profit for the MIC, and 1 thousand bases around the world. 😉

Posted by: Mario | Sep 29 2023 11:44 utc | 27

@12 @13
Don’t forget some nice profit for the MIC, and 1 thousand bases around the world. 😉

Posted by: Mario | Sep 29 2023 11:44 utc | 28

The party in power started talking about Ukraine’s transition to a presidential form of government.
“We are now testing a model of transition from a parliamentary-presidential state to a presidential one, with a strong president,” said First Vice-Speaker of Parliament Alexander Kornienko at the “Conductors of Change” forum.

https://t.me/nearestovich_official/1336

People’s Deputy from Zelensky’s Servant of the People party Alexander Kornienko tested public opinion by making a statement that they are now working on Ukraine’s transition to a monopoly presidential form of government – this caused a storm of negativity and caricatures on the Internet.
Kornienko had to immediately refute that he was allegedly misunderstood. Even all the information dumps of the OP joined in spreading the message that “you misunderstood.”
Although everyone understood everything correctly. Kornienko’s goal was simply to test the reaction. Checked – negative. They immediately rolled back.Now I will work to pump this idea to the masses.
The narrative will sound something like this: everyone around is corrupt, deputies are screwed, and only the President is great, so that he needs to be given full “royal power” so that he can restore order (although now he already has complete monopoly power, but the country is a mess and corruption
Everything is very simple – they want to do this, since Ermak understands that at the next elections they will lose their monopoly in Parliament, and this is a threat to their “carefree life”).

https://t.me/legitimniy/16367

Posted by: Down South | Sep 29 2023 11:48 utc | 29

The party in power started talking about Ukraine’s transition to a presidential form of government.
“We are now testing a model of transition from a parliamentary-presidential state to a presidential one, with a strong president,” said First Vice-Speaker of Parliament Alexander Kornienko at the “Conductors of Change” forum.

https://t.me/nearestovich_official/1336

People’s Deputy from Zelensky’s Servant of the People party Alexander Kornienko tested public opinion by making a statement that they are now working on Ukraine’s transition to a monopoly presidential form of government – this caused a storm of negativity and caricatures on the Internet.
Kornienko had to immediately refute that he was allegedly misunderstood. Even all the information dumps of the OP joined in spreading the message that “you misunderstood.”
Although everyone understood everything correctly. Kornienko’s goal was simply to test the reaction. Checked – negative. They immediately rolled back.Now I will work to pump this idea to the masses.
The narrative will sound something like this: everyone around is corrupt, deputies are screwed, and only the President is great, so that he needs to be given full “royal power” so that he can restore order (although now he already has complete monopoly power, but the country is a mess and corruption
Everything is very simple – they want to do this, since Ermak understands that at the next elections they will lose their monopoly in Parliament, and this is a threat to their “carefree life”).

https://t.me/legitimniy/16367

Posted by: Down South | Sep 29 2023 11:48 utc | 30

Posted by: Mario | Sep 29 2023 11:44 utc | 14
I was trying to be a righteous American and focus on the benefit we bring to the world with those 1000 bases,
Golf Courses was the only thing I could think of.

Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Sep 29 2023 11:55 utc | 31

Posted by: Mario | Sep 29 2023 11:44 utc | 14
I was trying to be a righteous American and focus on the benefit we bring to the world with those 1000 bases,
Golf Courses was the only thing I could think of.

Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Sep 29 2023 11:55 utc | 32

Colin@3 “Interestingly, this seems to be Mao’s method of defeating his opponents: eliminating their forces rather than occupying territory.”
Mao’s method? Dream on teenage queen. Developing a formal structure for surrending was discussed months ago on this forum and others. One point was if your’re fighting a war to protect Russian lives you need to start incorporating it into your operations. What surprised me was the opposition to it by many hardliners.
I think the need for this formal surrender mechanism could as readily be attributed to MOA’s discussion on this, rather than some quote from Maos little Red Book.
Step up Communists, KoolAide is free at the bar.

Posted by: Jerr | Sep 29 2023 12:01 utc | 33

Colin@3 “Interestingly, this seems to be Mao’s method of defeating his opponents: eliminating their forces rather than occupying territory.”
Mao’s method? Dream on teenage queen. Developing a formal structure for surrending was discussed months ago on this forum and others. One point was if your’re fighting a war to protect Russian lives you need to start incorporating it into your operations. What surprised me was the opposition to it by many hardliners.
I think the need for this formal surrender mechanism could as readily be attributed to MOA’s discussion on this, rather than some quote from Maos little Red Book.
Step up Communists, KoolAide is free at the bar.

Posted by: Jerr | Sep 29 2023 12:01 utc | 34

The natzios cope levels are off the scale – last few days in the U.K. not a single front page story about our Ukrops disaster. Nothing about the Canadian Nazi standing ovation. That’s called running scared.
Everything ignored, blind eye turned. Stiff upper lip and the usual PR hot air – good old fashioned English Aristo vomit.
If the poor Ukrainian conscripted are being shot at by their own natzio bull dogs – they may have a better chance of survival by fragging them as soon as they are handed a weapon and ammo and know how to shoot.
Then escape to hide and find the resistance. Which appears to be fairly active and has taken out a battalion or so by ambush and assassination as the hardcore Ukrops and natzios go on leave – many never make it off the train home.
With that reality – it does not matter where the current front line is – if you’re fighting Russia , you are dead everywhere.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Sep 29 2023 12:10 utc | 35

The natzios cope levels are off the scale – last few days in the U.K. not a single front page story about our Ukrops disaster. Nothing about the Canadian Nazi standing ovation. That’s called running scared.
Everything ignored, blind eye turned. Stiff upper lip and the usual PR hot air – good old fashioned English Aristo vomit.
If the poor Ukrainian conscripted are being shot at by their own natzio bull dogs – they may have a better chance of survival by fragging them as soon as they are handed a weapon and ammo and know how to shoot.
Then escape to hide and find the resistance. Which appears to be fairly active and has taken out a battalion or so by ambush and assassination as the hardcore Ukrops and natzios go on leave – many never make it off the train home.
With that reality – it does not matter where the current front line is – if you’re fighting Russia , you are dead everywhere.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Sep 29 2023 12:10 utc | 36

Posted by: Antonym | Sep 29 2023 11:31 utc | 12
You forgot to mention Russia controls 23% of Ukraine which is equivalent to 90% of Ukraine GDP which happens to be much much larger than the malinformed number of 50% you reported.

Posted by: AI | Sep 29 2023 12:24 utc | 37

Posted by: Antonym | Sep 29 2023 11:31 utc | 12
You forgot to mention Russia controls 23% of Ukraine which is equivalent to 90% of Ukraine GDP which happens to be much much larger than the malinformed number of 50% you reported.

Posted by: AI | Sep 29 2023 12:24 utc | 38

Posted by: Jerr | Sep 29 2023 12:01 utc | 17
Glad you don’t even know what anyone is talking about. Let me avoid you confusing everyone else: I was discussing priorities of resources and land, and you changed the subject to formal surrender mechanism cou that you care about but are irrelevant.
The whole strategy in Ukraine is for the Russians to let the Ukrainians run against those defenses, kill as many as possible, and destroy as much Western equipment as possible.
As a side note, as I type my reply, I have yet to see anyone’s reply. I was replying to B’s post, not any comments. If I reply to any comments, I will point them out as above.
Of course, letting anti-communists curse senselessly undoubtedly means a medal for a communist LMFAO. I’m just worried about the low reading skills of anti-communists in general.

Posted by: Colin | Sep 29 2023 12:33 utc | 39

Posted by: Jerr | Sep 29 2023 12:01 utc | 17
Glad you don’t even know what anyone is talking about. Let me avoid you confusing everyone else: I was discussing priorities of resources and land, and you changed the subject to formal surrender mechanism cou that you care about but are irrelevant.
The whole strategy in Ukraine is for the Russians to let the Ukrainians run against those defenses, kill as many as possible, and destroy as much Western equipment as possible.
As a side note, as I type my reply, I have yet to see anyone’s reply. I was replying to B’s post, not any comments. If I reply to any comments, I will point them out as above.
Of course, letting anti-communists curse senselessly undoubtedly means a medal for a communist LMFAO. I’m just worried about the low reading skills of anti-communists in general.

Posted by: Colin | Sep 29 2023 12:33 utc | 40

@ 13 –
Don’t forget the O-clubs and NEX’s…

Posted by: Adriatic Hillbilly | Sep 29 2023 12:33 utc | 41

@ 13 –
Don’t forget the O-clubs and NEX’s…

Posted by: Adriatic Hillbilly | Sep 29 2023 12:33 utc | 42

Are we to believe that in a dream last night a reporter had a revelation that anyone with half a brain has been talking about for a year? Or that the Times has decided to just report the facts, shedding advocacy journalism? Color me skeptical.
Could it be that they are laying the groundwork for some face-saving retreat, or effort to freeze the conflict like the Korean War? “We did everything we could to help, but the stars were just not aligned.”
At this point, nearly anything that ends or even reduces the senseless loss of life would be welcome.

Posted by: Sudsie76 | Sep 29 2023 12:33 utc | 43

Are we to believe that in a dream last night a reporter had a revelation that anyone with half a brain has been talking about for a year? Or that the Times has decided to just report the facts, shedding advocacy journalism? Color me skeptical.
Could it be that they are laying the groundwork for some face-saving retreat, or effort to freeze the conflict like the Korean War? “We did everything we could to help, but the stars were just not aligned.”
At this point, nearly anything that ends or even reduces the senseless loss of life would be welcome.

Posted by: Sudsie76 | Sep 29 2023 12:33 utc | 44

Many had previously been unhappy with the slow advance of the Russian army, so I pointed out earlier that they may have been applying Mao’s strategy of focusing on resource gains and losses rather than land gains and losses.
It seems that the idea of a communist leader having military strategic intelligence is very alarming to some.

Posted by: Colin | Sep 29 2023 12:38 utc | 45

Many had previously been unhappy with the slow advance of the Russian army, so I pointed out earlier that they may have been applying Mao’s strategy of focusing on resource gains and losses rather than land gains and losses.
It seems that the idea of a communist leader having military strategic intelligence is very alarming to some.

Posted by: Colin | Sep 29 2023 12:38 utc | 46

Posted by: Sudsie76 | Sep 29 2023 12:33 utc | 22
Maybe they just need to turn to the war against China.

Posted by: Colin | Sep 29 2023 12:39 utc | 47

Posted by: Sudsie76 | Sep 29 2023 12:33 utc | 22
Maybe they just need to turn to the war against China.

Posted by: Colin | Sep 29 2023 12:39 utc | 48

Dima says this morning that the russians have established a radio wave: 149.200 so Ukrainians can surrender more conveniently. It seems you tell them its over and they’ll come and pick up the pow’S

Posted by: Stierlitz | Sep 29 2023 12:41 utc | 49

Dima says this morning that the russians have established a radio wave: 149.200 so Ukrainians can surrender more conveniently. It seems you tell them its over and they’ll come and pick up the pow’S

Posted by: Stierlitz | Sep 29 2023 12:41 utc | 50

Cokin @20
The writing has to be clear, before one talks about reading skills. People can’t infer your thoughts.
What makes you think I’m anti-communist??
I’m anti- marionette.

Posted by: Jerr | Sep 29 2023 12:46 utc | 51

Cokin @20
The writing has to be clear, before one talks about reading skills. People can’t infer your thoughts.
What makes you think I’m anti-communist??
I’m anti- marionette.

Posted by: Jerr | Sep 29 2023 12:46 utc | 52

The western MSM is increasingly focused on Ukraine’s random strikes in Crimea. They are making delusional assumptions that this also would equate to Russia losing in Zaporozhye, Artemovsk and everywhere else. But the truth is, a few long range strikes have little-no impact that can reverse the effects of costly and faltering attacks in Zaporozhye, Vremievka area and Artemovsk area. Especially Russia is doing daily 1-2x what Ukraine is achieving in one week in comparison with long range strikes.
There is an effect of “Overton window” where the focus is shifted away from the ground into a few pinprick strikes.
It’s all about reserves. According to Military summary, AFU has committed all “strategic reserves” to Zaporozhye and Artemovsk, while Russia has managed the defense with their local already committed forces. They haven’t yet touched their own “strategic reserve”. The AFU air defense is close to non-existent. One of the bridge RUAF destroyed in the Kupyansk area was a missile launched from south-west part of the battlefront – it fly 400km all across the Donbass rear areas without interference.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 29 2023 12:54 utc | 53

The western MSM is increasingly focused on Ukraine’s random strikes in Crimea. They are making delusional assumptions that this also would equate to Russia losing in Zaporozhye, Artemovsk and everywhere else. But the truth is, a few long range strikes have little-no impact that can reverse the effects of costly and faltering attacks in Zaporozhye, Vremievka area and Artemovsk area. Especially Russia is doing daily 1-2x what Ukraine is achieving in one week in comparison with long range strikes.
There is an effect of “Overton window” where the focus is shifted away from the ground into a few pinprick strikes.
It’s all about reserves. According to Military summary, AFU has committed all “strategic reserves” to Zaporozhye and Artemovsk, while Russia has managed the defense with their local already committed forces. They haven’t yet touched their own “strategic reserve”. The AFU air defense is close to non-existent. One of the bridge RUAF destroyed in the Kupyansk area was a missile launched from south-west part of the battlefront – it fly 400km all across the Donbass rear areas without interference.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 29 2023 12:54 utc | 54

Posted by: Jerr | Sep 29 2023 12:46 utc | 26
Just look at the times
Posted by: Gerry Bell | Sep 29 2023 10:26 utc | 2
Posted by: Colin | Sep 29 2023 10:26 utc | 3
This is the first time I’ve learned that not being able to anticipate comments that I haven’t seen at the time of typing is “unclear writing” or “marionette”.
If you didn’t have a traumatic reaction triggered by the Mao’s name, then I’m even more worried about your reading ability.

Posted by: Colin | Sep 29 2023 13:02 utc | 55

Posted by: Jerr | Sep 29 2023 12:46 utc | 26
Just look at the times
Posted by: Gerry Bell | Sep 29 2023 10:26 utc | 2
Posted by: Colin | Sep 29 2023 10:26 utc | 3
This is the first time I’ve learned that not being able to anticipate comments that I haven’t seen at the time of typing is “unclear writing” or “marionette”.
If you didn’t have a traumatic reaction triggered by the Mao’s name, then I’m even more worried about your reading ability.

Posted by: Colin | Sep 29 2023 13:02 utc | 56

Posted by: Jerr | Sep 29 2023 12:46 utc | 26
Not to mention, of course, why you would elicit such inexplicable insults as “Kool-aid”, “dream on teenage queen,” “marionette,” and so on from my single sentence if the name of Mao didn’t trigger your anti-communist trauma.
In any case, if you weren’t overly fragile and sensitive to Mao’s name and had reasonable reading skills, you wouldn’t have trouble spotting how my words could be clearly linked to b’s original post.

Posted by: Colin | Sep 29 2023 13:27 utc | 57

Posted by: Jerr | Sep 29 2023 12:46 utc | 26
Not to mention, of course, why you would elicit such inexplicable insults as “Kool-aid”, “dream on teenage queen,” “marionette,” and so on from my single sentence if the name of Mao didn’t trigger your anti-communist trauma.
In any case, if you weren’t overly fragile and sensitive to Mao’s name and had reasonable reading skills, you wouldn’t have trouble spotting how my words could be clearly linked to b’s original post.

Posted by: Colin | Sep 29 2023 13:27 utc | 58

Colin @28
Since you raised this topic, Mao’s relevant quote attributed in 1937 was:-
“The first law of war is to preserve ourselves and destroy the enemy.”
Interestingly, the US Marine Corp did an in depth study on Mao’s way of war and guerrilla tactics and actually wrote a book and translated his works in 1961. It was approved for public release in 1989. It seems, the US Army drew no lessons from this book in Vietnam, which the Vietminh used against the French and the Vietcong against the Americans.
If you are interested, the link is below.
https://www.marines.mil/Portals/1/Publications/FMFRP%2012-18%20%20Mao%20Tse-tung%20on%20Guerrilla%20Warfare.pdf
Regarding the discourse you have with Jerr, there is no need to get into a bar fight.

Posted by: Passé-Partout | Sep 29 2023 13:32 utc | 59

Colin @28
Since you raised this topic, Mao’s relevant quote attributed in 1937 was:-
“The first law of war is to preserve ourselves and destroy the enemy.”
Interestingly, the US Marine Corp did an in depth study on Mao’s way of war and guerrilla tactics and actually wrote a book and translated his works in 1961. It was approved for public release in 1989. It seems, the US Army drew no lessons from this book in Vietnam, which the Vietminh used against the French and the Vietcong against the Americans.
If you are interested, the link is below.
https://www.marines.mil/Portals/1/Publications/FMFRP%2012-18%20%20Mao%20Tse-tung%20on%20Guerrilla%20Warfare.pdf
Regarding the discourse you have with Jerr, there is no need to get into a bar fight.

Posted by: Passé-Partout | Sep 29 2023 13:32 utc | 60

It was Russia who started this offense not called war. So what is this about “Ukraine not being successful”? Should this not be “Russia has completely failed her objective due to treachery, confusion and moronic leadership full of failures?

Posted by: Sam | Sep 29 2023 13:35 utc | 61

It was Russia who started this offense not called war. So what is this about “Ukraine not being successful”? Should this not be “Russia has completely failed her objective due to treachery, confusion and moronic leadership full of failures?

Posted by: Sam | Sep 29 2023 13:35 utc | 62

Sam @31
Sam, can you remind or enlighten me what were Russia’s objectives for the SMO? I know there are 3 and enunciated very clearly by Putin on the eve of the commencement of the SMO.

Posted by: Passé-Partout | Sep 29 2023 13:40 utc | 63

Sam @31
Sam, can you remind or enlighten me what were Russia’s objectives for the SMO? I know there are 3 and enunciated very clearly by Putin on the eve of the commencement of the SMO.

Posted by: Passé-Partout | Sep 29 2023 13:40 utc | 64

Posted by: Passé-Partout | Sep 29 2023 13:32 utc | 30
I was referring to this.
Unfortunately, he made an inexplicable provocation against me, and I was just shooting back at him for saying so.

Posted by: Colin | Sep 29 2023 13:43 utc | 65

Posted by: Passé-Partout | Sep 29 2023 13:32 utc | 30
I was referring to this.
Unfortunately, he made an inexplicable provocation against me, and I was just shooting back at him for saying so.

Posted by: Colin | Sep 29 2023 13:43 utc | 66

“One of the bridge RUAF destroyed in the Kupyansk area was a missile launched from south-west part of the battlefront – it fly 400km all across the Donbass rear areas without interference.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 29 2023 12:54 utc | 27”

I heard Dima say that this morning too. My only problem with his analysis is he’s assuming the editor of the video had actual footage of aircraft launching the missile rather than using footage of another strike edited in for ‘artistic’ purposes which Dima geolocated as being 400km away.
That bridge was close to the frontline. Does it really make sense to use a long range weapon when they could have used a much cheaper weapon from a range that offered less opportunity for interception and maybe save the long range weapons for long range strikes?
I love Dima and appreciate everything he’s doing … I watch twice a day every day however he’s an amateur military analyst and he sometimes guesses wrong. You have to take everything you hear with a grain of salt … even from Dima.

Posted by: HB_Norica | Sep 29 2023 13:50 utc | 67

“One of the bridge RUAF destroyed in the Kupyansk area was a missile launched from south-west part of the battlefront – it fly 400km all across the Donbass rear areas without interference.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 29 2023 12:54 utc | 27”

I heard Dima say that this morning too. My only problem with his analysis is he’s assuming the editor of the video had actual footage of aircraft launching the missile rather than using footage of another strike edited in for ‘artistic’ purposes which Dima geolocated as being 400km away.
That bridge was close to the frontline. Does it really make sense to use a long range weapon when they could have used a much cheaper weapon from a range that offered less opportunity for interception and maybe save the long range weapons for long range strikes?
I love Dima and appreciate everything he’s doing … I watch twice a day every day however he’s an amateur military analyst and he sometimes guesses wrong. You have to take everything you hear with a grain of salt … even from Dima.

Posted by: HB_Norica | Sep 29 2023 13:50 utc | 68

At this point Ukraine is a zombie state, its dying body propped up by life support from the US/West. The only functional part of Ukraine is its propaganda industry. The belief in the West is that if you go on pretending that Ukraine is a functioning place, then wishes will become reality. I expect that Ukraine, and its front line, will collapse before the year is done.

Posted by: Mike R | Sep 29 2023 13:59 utc | 69

At this point Ukraine is a zombie state, its dying body propped up by life support from the US/West. The only functional part of Ukraine is its propaganda industry. The belief in the West is that if you go on pretending that Ukraine is a functioning place, then wishes will become reality. I expect that Ukraine, and its front line, will collapse before the year is done.

Posted by: Mike R | Sep 29 2023 13:59 utc | 70

…..,Don’t forget the O-clubs and NEX’s…
Posted by: Adriatic Hillbilly | Sep 29 2023 12:33 utc | 21…..
A school buddy of mine , retired military lifer, who lives part time in Munich, is really pissed off that he has to drive the 45 minutes to Garmisch to buy at the PX. He blames the Germans for forcing him to pay retail.
It’s kinda funny to hear him rant on the subject.

Posted by: Exile | Sep 29 2023 13:59 utc | 71

…..,Don’t forget the O-clubs and NEX’s…
Posted by: Adriatic Hillbilly | Sep 29 2023 12:33 utc | 21…..
A school buddy of mine , retired military lifer, who lives part time in Munich, is really pissed off that he has to drive the 45 minutes to Garmisch to buy at the PX. He blames the Germans for forcing him to pay retail.
It’s kinda funny to hear him rant on the subject.

Posted by: Exile | Sep 29 2023 13:59 utc | 72

War until the last ukrainian
https://t.me/RVvoenkor/53865

Posted by: Crazy idiot | Sep 29 2023 14:06 utc | 73

War until the last ukrainian
https://t.me/RVvoenkor/53865

Posted by: Crazy idiot | Sep 29 2023 14:06 utc | 74

More Ukronazi terrorism: https://ground.news/article/bomb-threat-forces-evacuation-of-russian-orthodox-seminary-and-monastery-in-new-york

Posted by: Former Observer | Sep 29 2023 14:12 utc | 75

More Ukronazi terrorism: https://ground.news/article/bomb-threat-forces-evacuation-of-russian-orthodox-seminary-and-monastery-in-new-york

Posted by: Former Observer | Sep 29 2023 14:12 utc | 76

Posted by: HB_Norica | Sep 29 2023 13:50 utc | 34
Maybe it was target practice, working out the bugs for long range strikes. Possibly a missile can more accurately hit the support pylons that will ensure the bridge can’t be repaired.

Posted by: Mike R | Sep 29 2023 14:15 utc | 77

Posted by: HB_Norica | Sep 29 2023 13:50 utc | 34
Maybe it was target practice, working out the bugs for long range strikes. Possibly a missile can more accurately hit the support pylons that will ensure the bridge can’t be repaired.

Posted by: Mike R | Sep 29 2023 14:15 utc | 78

The command of the Ukrainian Armed Forces is withdrawing the 47th brigade from the Rabotino area to the rear due to its refusal to carry out combat missions amid high losses, – Russian Ministry of Defense.
The 47th Mechanized Infantry Brigade “Magura” was trained by NATO specialists and armed with Western equipment. During the Ukrainian counteroffensive, the brigade suffered colossal losses, which led to its withdrawal from the front line.

Another brigade mauled and pulled out. Also the reports by Military Chronical mentioned AFU has concentrated 5+ brigades in this rather small area – since they are in a cauldron and with minimal fire support and few options to hit back, they are being hit every day. They are attacking in the trench south of Verbove only with light weapons, and RU periodically make a counter-attack / bombard the trench and take it back. And then AFU tries to retake it with infantry and the cycle goes on.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 29 2023 14:31 utc | 79

The command of the Ukrainian Armed Forces is withdrawing the 47th brigade from the Rabotino area to the rear due to its refusal to carry out combat missions amid high losses, – Russian Ministry of Defense.
The 47th Mechanized Infantry Brigade “Magura” was trained by NATO specialists and armed with Western equipment. During the Ukrainian counteroffensive, the brigade suffered colossal losses, which led to its withdrawal from the front line.

Another brigade mauled and pulled out. Also the reports by Military Chronical mentioned AFU has concentrated 5+ brigades in this rather small area – since they are in a cauldron and with minimal fire support and few options to hit back, they are being hit every day. They are attacking in the trench south of Verbove only with light weapons, and RU periodically make a counter-attack / bombard the trench and take it back. And then AFU tries to retake it with infantry and the cycle goes on.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 29 2023 14:31 utc | 80

When there are no more Ukrainians to sacrifice, Zelensky will no longer ask for weapons but for troops…
Can NATO accept losing, what about escalation?
“Ending the war by a negotiated peace
Legitimate self-defense and the quest for a just and lasting peace are not contradictory”

Negotiation proposal by Professor Dr. Peter Brandt, Professor Dr. Hajo Funke, General (ret.) Harald Kujat and Professor Dr. h. c. Horst Teltschik
https://zeitgeschehen-im-fokus.ch/en/newspaper-ausgabe-en/article-translated-in-english.html#article_1565
“Ukrainian conflict demonstrated, from the very start of the conflict, that nuclear deterrence does not work”
Fabio Mini, General Armed Forces Italy
https://volerelaluna.it/in-primo-piano/2023/09/19/lucraina-e-in-ginocchio-e-leuropa-alla-canna-del-gas-intervista-al-generale-mini/

Posted by: Tak-Tik | Sep 29 2023 14:31 utc | 81

When there are no more Ukrainians to sacrifice, Zelensky will no longer ask for weapons but for troops…
Can NATO accept losing, what about escalation?
“Ending the war by a negotiated peace
Legitimate self-defense and the quest for a just and lasting peace are not contradictory”

Negotiation proposal by Professor Dr. Peter Brandt, Professor Dr. Hajo Funke, General (ret.) Harald Kujat and Professor Dr. h. c. Horst Teltschik
https://zeitgeschehen-im-fokus.ch/en/newspaper-ausgabe-en/article-translated-in-english.html#article_1565
“Ukrainian conflict demonstrated, from the very start of the conflict, that nuclear deterrence does not work”
Fabio Mini, General Armed Forces Italy
https://volerelaluna.it/in-primo-piano/2023/09/19/lucraina-e-in-ginocchio-e-leuropa-alla-canna-del-gas-intervista-al-generale-mini/

Posted by: Tak-Tik | Sep 29 2023 14:31 utc | 82

Ukraine Weekly Update – May be Useful to Some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-weekly-update-93c

Posted by: Robert Hamilton Camp | Sep 29 2023 14:32 utc | 83

Ukraine Weekly Update – May be Useful to Some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-weekly-update-93c

Posted by: Robert Hamilton Camp | Sep 29 2023 14:32 utc | 84

Posted by: Mario | Sep 29 2023 11:30 utc | 11
The European Union hears you: The EU has set a legally binding target of 11.7% reduction in energy consumption by 2030.
These people really live in a dream world.

Posted by: Passerby | Sep 29 2023 14:35 utc | 85

Posted by: Mario | Sep 29 2023 11:30 utc | 11
The European Union hears you: The EU has set a legally binding target of 11.7% reduction in energy consumption by 2030.
These people really live in a dream world.

Posted by: Passerby | Sep 29 2023 14:35 utc | 86

The idea that Ukraine could go extinct is no joke:
https://aoav.org.uk/2023/cradles-and-conflicts-is-ukraine-facing-a-demographic-death-spiral/
“a silent genocide”. Huge numbers of women of child bearing age have left and may not come back. Men are being crippled or having genitals shredded. There is a prediction that they may drop to the lowest birthrate on earth in the coming year. Why die for for a vanishing nation?

Posted by: Eighthman | Sep 29 2023 14:35 utc | 87

The idea that Ukraine could go extinct is no joke:
https://aoav.org.uk/2023/cradles-and-conflicts-is-ukraine-facing-a-demographic-death-spiral/
“a silent genocide”. Huge numbers of women of child bearing age have left and may not come back. Men are being crippled or having genitals shredded. There is a prediction that they may drop to the lowest birthrate on earth in the coming year. Why die for for a vanishing nation?

Posted by: Eighthman | Sep 29 2023 14:35 utc | 88

Posted by: Colin | Sep 29 2023 10:26 utc | 3
It’s a generally more “soviet” approach to war suited to armies fighting on large territories: let the others spend their men first, then punch through. It also sounds like the tactics used by arm wrestlers.

Posted by: Lemming | Sep 29 2023 14:37 utc | 89

Posted by: Colin | Sep 29 2023 10:26 utc | 3
It’s a generally more “soviet” approach to war suited to armies fighting on large territories: let the others spend their men first, then punch through. It also sounds like the tactics used by arm wrestlers.

Posted by: Lemming | Sep 29 2023 14:37 utc | 90

hmm Ukraine is the Feinstein of geopolitics. i wonder if they will continue to prop up her corpse to vote. weekend at Diane’s.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 29 2023 14:39 utc | 91

hmm Ukraine is the Feinstein of geopolitics. i wonder if they will continue to prop up her corpse to vote. weekend at Diane’s.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 29 2023 14:39 utc | 92

27 – Obviously a diversion from the less than inspiring ground warfare news.

Posted by: Waldorf | Sep 29 2023 14:47 utc | 93

27 – Obviously a diversion from the less than inspiring ground warfare news.

Posted by: Waldorf | Sep 29 2023 14:47 utc | 94

Russia interferes with the GPS signal of ships in Romanian territorial waters.” This carries with it the danger of a ship collision. Romania and NATO must prepare for a long confrontation with the Russian regime” – said the Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Romania, General Daniel Petrescu.
“Now we do not see an end to this war, and while we admire the resilience of Ukrainian society in the face of Russian attacks, we must also prepare for a prolonged confrontation with the regime of the Russian Federation.” We feel this confrontation very well, especially on the eastern wing of NATO and especially in the Black Sea region. The Russian Federation’s war in Ukraine fundamentally destabilized the Black Sea region” – said Petrescu.
“>https://twitter.com/Sprinter99800/status/1707765304544100380

So they want a “long war”. With China also increasingly irritated toward Nato and NK in the alliance it might not be the most wisest choice. Ukraine will simply be chewed in unfavorable environment and any Romanians or others thrown into the mix.
Also Mark Sleboda and Brian Berletic have a new video on the “long war”. Btw, it should be mentioned that the “long war” narrative is simply an alternative way US uses to express that the AFU counter-attack failed. Russia is also building a rail connection through Mariupol to Crimea, which will be sooner or later finished and make the Kerch strait bridge more redundant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK4SZ5IzeRE

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 29 2023 14:49 utc | 95

Russia interferes with the GPS signal of ships in Romanian territorial waters.” This carries with it the danger of a ship collision. Romania and NATO must prepare for a long confrontation with the Russian regime” – said the Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Romania, General Daniel Petrescu.
“Now we do not see an end to this war, and while we admire the resilience of Ukrainian society in the face of Russian attacks, we must also prepare for a prolonged confrontation with the regime of the Russian Federation.” We feel this confrontation very well, especially on the eastern wing of NATO and especially in the Black Sea region. The Russian Federation’s war in Ukraine fundamentally destabilized the Black Sea region” – said Petrescu.
“>https://twitter.com/Sprinter99800/status/1707765304544100380

So they want a “long war”. With China also increasingly irritated toward Nato and NK in the alliance it might not be the most wisest choice. Ukraine will simply be chewed in unfavorable environment and any Romanians or others thrown into the mix.
Also Mark Sleboda and Brian Berletic have a new video on the “long war”. Btw, it should be mentioned that the “long war” narrative is simply an alternative way US uses to express that the AFU counter-attack failed. Russia is also building a rail connection through Mariupol to Crimea, which will be sooner or later finished and make the Kerch strait bridge more redundant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK4SZ5IzeRE

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 29 2023 14:49 utc | 96

@Stierlitz 25
That radio frequency has been active since July and was ebbed the subject of an MoD advert in Ukrainian. Only now is Dima mentioning it?
It’s not “they’ll pick you up”, but they’ll try and give you a safe passage rhein the lines, both by suppression of nazi fire and by alerting Russian units to not shoot at you.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Sep 29 2023 14:57 utc | 97

@Stierlitz 25
That radio frequency has been active since July and was ebbed the subject of an MoD advert in Ukrainian. Only now is Dima mentioning it?
It’s not “they’ll pick you up”, but they’ll try and give you a safe passage rhein the lines, both by suppression of nazi fire and by alerting Russian units to not shoot at you.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Sep 29 2023 14:57 utc | 98

@ Mike R 39
About using a long-rang missile to strike a bridge near the front line.
“Maybe it was target practice, working out the bugs for long range strikes. Possibly a missile can more accurately hit the support pylons that will ensure the bridge can’t be repaired.”
If it was target practice or working out the bugs, that would only be done on Russian territory, for convenience and spotters. If there were bugs to be worked out, you would want to be able to retrieve the wreckage for analysis. So those reasons don’t hold water. It seems the Russians mostly test everything before it’s sent into combat.
Then there’s the question of Russia destroying bridges. I think no bridges were destroyed until after the Ukie sabotage operations in Belgorod oblast, and then only one small bridge near the border. But lately, a half-dozen bridges, small ones I think, near Kupyansk. My guess is that Russia would not hit the pylons because they want to put any destroyed bridges back into operation after they get the territory, and we can be sure the Ukies can’t or won’t repair the bridges in the meantime. Repairs cost money and any reconstruction work is easily bombed.

Posted by: JessDTruth | Sep 29 2023 15:00 utc | 99

@ Mike R 39
About using a long-rang missile to strike a bridge near the front line.
“Maybe it was target practice, working out the bugs for long range strikes. Possibly a missile can more accurately hit the support pylons that will ensure the bridge can’t be repaired.”
If it was target practice or working out the bugs, that would only be done on Russian territory, for convenience and spotters. If there were bugs to be worked out, you would want to be able to retrieve the wreckage for analysis. So those reasons don’t hold water. It seems the Russians mostly test everything before it’s sent into combat.
Then there’s the question of Russia destroying bridges. I think no bridges were destroyed until after the Ukie sabotage operations in Belgorod oblast, and then only one small bridge near the border. But lately, a half-dozen bridges, small ones I think, near Kupyansk. My guess is that Russia would not hit the pylons because they want to put any destroyed bridges back into operation after they get the territory, and we can be sure the Ukies can’t or won’t repair the bridges in the meantime. Repairs cost money and any reconstruction work is easily bombed.

Posted by: JessDTruth | Sep 29 2023 15:00 utc | 100