After Pushing Gains By Ukraine NYT Notes Its Losses
The New York Times reporting on Ukraine seems inconsistent. It was all about gains and going forward:
- A Brutal Path Forward, Village by Village - New York Times, September 2, 2023
- Ukraine Has Gained Ground But It Has Much Further To Go- New York Times, September 20, 2023
- Another Step for Ukraine: Armored Vehicles Breach Some Russian Defenses - New York Times, September 22, 2023
But a week after the above a different headline appeared:
- Who’s Gaining Ground in Ukraine? This Year, No One. - New York Times, September 29, 2023
That headline is contradicted by the content of the piece.
As Antiwar summarizes:
Russian forces have gained more territory in Ukraine this year than the Ukrainian side despite the Ukrainian counteroffensive that was launched in June, The New York Times reported on Thursday.The report noted that despite nine months of heavy fighting in Ukraine, only about 500 square miles of territory have changed hands this year. Russia has gained 331 square miles while Ukraine has gained 143, a difference of 188, which amounts to Russia’s net gain in territory so far this year.
Contradicting its headline the NYT graphics department admits as much.

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Russia is fighting a war of attrition:
The Times quoted Marina Miron, a postdoctoral researcher in war studies at King’s College London, who said Russia appears to be comfortable holding the territory it currently controls rather than seeking rapid gains.“It’s not losing anything by not moving forward,” Miron said. “The whole strategy in Ukraine is for the Russians to let the Ukrainians run against those defenses, kill as many as possible, and destroy as much Western equipment as possible.”
As the Zelinski regime senselessly continues to push its army against the hardened Russian defense line there is no need for Russia's military to move forward. The numbers and time is on its side. It is Ukraine that has a mobilization problem, not Russia.
This thus will end badly for Ukraine with nothing to gain but likely many more losses.
Posted by b on September 29, 2023 at 10:01 UTC | Permalink
next page »Plus the rate of Ukrainian surrenders continues to accelerate. I think it's 11,000 this month...
Posted by: Gerry Bell | Sep 29 2023 10:26 utc | 2
Interestingly, this seems to be Mao's method of defeating his opponents: eliminating their forces rather than occupying territory.
Posted by: Colin | Sep 29 2023 10:26 utc | 3
Today I watched a video on Telegram of 5 Ukrainian soldiers trying to surrender to the Chechens, whereupon they were shelled and fired on with mortar bombs by the Ukranazis. At least one was injured, but fortunately they seem to have surrendered successfully.
So bad is the situation for Ukranazistan that they are now stealing Russian MoD videos of Ukrainian soldiers surrendering and passing them off as Russian soldiers being captured by Ukranazistan:
https://twitter.com/GeromanAT/status/1707438181866512457
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Sep 29 2023 10:34 utc | 4
I imagine the TrollTeam briefing was somewhat subdued this morning on the news of 10,000 Ukrainian (soldiers? women?
children? and old men?) surrendering at once! Is there anything like it in the history of war?
Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Sep 29 2023 10:38 utc | 5
@5 In the Battle of Stalingrad 1942-43 90,000 soldiers under general Paulus surrendered to the Soviet army.
Ms. Marina Miron better update her resume. Telling the truth like that is a big no-no in the West.
Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy | Sep 29 2023 11:07 utc | 7
Thank you @6, I can see the headline now "Russian Army not up to WW2 standards"
Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Sep 29 2023 11:11 utc | 8
Russia is hosting the BRICS Games in June 2024.
Thus, I suspect no Russian offensive until after the Russian Elections and after the BRICS Games - so we’re looking now at July 2024 - in 9-10 months.
I predict July - November 2024 things are going to reach a crescendo in Ukraine - and global energy markets.
Plenty of think time between now and then.
Posted by: Julian | Sep 29 2023 11:13 utc | 9
We have always insided that the rear military and security officials are mired in corruption. Now many people have started writing about this. Most likely, they are tired of remaining silent and watching the country go downhill.The scheme that the Ukrainian journalist published is primitive, just like the brains of officials.
Scheme:
1. The security forces, as raiders on fictitious cases, squeezed out someone’s property, assets, cars, etc.
2. Rear military officials took it (on paper), it’s like helping the army. Security forces and judges in the topic and scheme.
3. Physically, all this was sold, but according to the papers it was lost or burned during raids on warehouses, or was allegedly transferred to the front line as help to the army, and there it was “lost as a result of hostilities.”
4. If you argued in court that everything was confiscated illegally, then you had nothing to return. Everything was “burned out”.Everything, even humanitarian aid, is written off under the scheme of raids on warehouses. Ukraine is so mired in corruption and lawlessness that it can easily compete with Somalia. We often wrote that rear officials steal everything because they understood that war is a business.
The time will come and they will begin to publish schemes of how Ermak and his henchmen bought fictitious weapons worth billions.
https://t.me/legitimniy/16362
Posted by: Down South | Sep 29 2023 11:29 utc | 10
@9
While Shoigu, in his recent speech, did indicate the end of smo by 2025 I will be surprised that something will not happen way before US presidential elections.
By the way energy global markets are already in a crescendo. Oil is up to 93 today.
Gas seems to be a little quiter, here in Europe, but we are not in the winter period. If, unfortunately, we should face a cold winter gas prices will skyrocket before july/November 2024.
Posted by: Mario | Sep 29 2023 11:30 utc | 11
WW III looks WW I: thousands of plebs die for little territorial gain, remotely controlled by some Big egos far away - in the West now. More a battle of will power.
Best command I read about the US 'strategy' of spending only 5% of the US defense budget on Ukraine to diminish the Russian forces by ~50%: "so where are the other 95% used for?"
Posted by: Antonym | Sep 29 2023 11:31 utc | 12
"so where are the other 95% used for?"
Posted by: Antonym | Sep 29 2023 11:31 utc | 12
The worldwide network of golf courses and "retirement"
Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Sep 29 2023 11:38 utc | 13
@12 @13
Don't forget some nice profit for the MIC, and 1 thousand bases around the world. ;)
Posted by: Mario | Sep 29 2023 11:44 utc | 14
The party in power started talking about Ukraine's transition to a presidential form of government.“We are now testing a model of transition from a parliamentary-presidential state to a presidential one, with a strong president,” said First Vice-Speaker of Parliament Alexander Kornienko at the “Conductors of Change” forum.
https://t.me/nearestovich_official/1336
People's Deputy from Zelensky's Servant of the People party Alexander Kornienko tested public opinion by making a statement that they are now working on Ukraine's transition to a monopoly presidential form of government - this caused a storm of negativity and caricatures on the Internet.Kornienko had to immediately refute that he was allegedly misunderstood. Even all the information dumps of the OP joined in spreading the message that “you misunderstood.”
Although everyone understood everything correctly. Kornienko’s goal was simply to test the reaction. Checked - negative. They immediately rolled back.Now I will work to pump this idea to the masses.
The narrative will sound something like this: everyone around is corrupt, deputies are screwed, and only the President is great, so that he needs to be given full “royal power” so that he can restore order (although now he already has complete monopoly power, but the country is a mess and corruption
Everything is very simple - they want to do this, since Ermak understands that at the next elections they will lose their monopoly in Parliament, and this is a threat to their “carefree life”).
https://t.me/legitimniy/16367
Posted by: Down South | Sep 29 2023 11:48 utc | 15
Posted by: Mario | Sep 29 2023 11:44 utc | 14
I was trying to be a righteous American and focus on the benefit we bring to the world with those 1000 bases,
Golf Courses was the only thing I could think of.
Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Sep 29 2023 11:55 utc | 16
Colin@3 "Interestingly, this seems to be Mao's method of defeating his opponents: eliminating their forces rather than occupying territory."
Mao's method? Dream on teenage queen. Developing a formal structure for surrending was discussed months ago on this forum and others. One point was if your're fighting a war to protect Russian lives you need to start incorporating it into your operations. What surprised me was the opposition to it by many hardliners.
I think the need for this formal surrender mechanism could as readily be attributed to MOA's discussion on this, rather than some quote from Maos little Red Book.
Step up Communists, KoolAide is free at the bar.
Posted by: Jerr | Sep 29 2023 12:01 utc | 17
The natzios cope levels are off the scale - last few days in the U.K. not a single front page story about our Ukrops disaster. Nothing about the Canadian Nazi standing ovation. That’s called running scared.
Everything ignored, blind eye turned. Stiff upper lip and the usual PR hot air - good old fashioned English Aristo vomit.
If the poor Ukrainian conscripted are being shot at by their own natzio bull dogs - they may have a better chance of survival by fragging them as soon as they are handed a weapon and ammo and know how to shoot.
Then escape to hide and find the resistance. Which appears to be fairly active and has taken out a battalion or so by ambush and assassination as the hardcore Ukrops and natzios go on leave - many never make it off the train home.
With that reality - it does not matter where the current front line is - if you’re fighting Russia , you are dead everywhere.
Posted by: DunGroanin | Sep 29 2023 12:10 utc | 18
Posted by: Antonym | Sep 29 2023 11:31 utc | 12
You forgot to mention Russia controls 23% of Ukraine which is equivalent to 90% of Ukraine GDP which happens to be much much larger than the malinformed number of 50% you reported.
Posted by: AI | Sep 29 2023 12:24 utc | 19
Posted by: Jerr | Sep 29 2023 12:01 utc | 17
Glad you don't even know what anyone is talking about. Let me avoid you confusing everyone else: I was discussing priorities of resources and land, and you changed the subject to formal surrender mechanism cou that you care about but are irrelevant.
The whole strategy in Ukraine is for the Russians to let the Ukrainians run against those defenses, kill as many as possible, and destroy as much Western equipment as possible.
As a side note, as I type my reply, I have yet to see anyone's reply. I was replying to B's post, not any comments. If I reply to any comments, I will point them out as above.
Of course, letting anti-communists curse senselessly undoubtedly means a medal for a communist LMFAO. I'm just worried about the low reading skills of anti-communists in general.
Posted by: Colin | Sep 29 2023 12:33 utc | 20
@ 13 -
Don't forget the O-clubs and NEX's...
Posted by: Adriatic Hillbilly | Sep 29 2023 12:33 utc | 21
Are we to believe that in a dream last night a reporter had a revelation that anyone with half a brain has been talking about for a year? Or that the Times has decided to just report the facts, shedding advocacy journalism? Color me skeptical.
Could it be that they are laying the groundwork for some face-saving retreat, or effort to freeze the conflict like the Korean War? “We did everything we could to help, but the stars were just not aligned.”
At this point, nearly anything that ends or even reduces the senseless loss of life would be welcome.
Posted by: Sudsie76 | Sep 29 2023 12:33 utc | 22
Many had previously been unhappy with the slow advance of the Russian army, so I pointed out earlier that they may have been applying Mao's strategy of focusing on resource gains and losses rather than land gains and losses.
It seems that the idea of a communist leader having military strategic intelligence is very alarming to some.
Posted by: Colin | Sep 29 2023 12:38 utc | 23
Posted by: Sudsie76 | Sep 29 2023 12:33 utc | 22
Maybe they just need to turn to the war against China.
Posted by: Colin | Sep 29 2023 12:39 utc | 24
Dima says this morning that the russians have established a radio wave: 149.200 so Ukrainians can surrender more conveniently. It seems you tell them its over and they'll come and pick up the pow'S
Posted by: Stierlitz | Sep 29 2023 12:41 utc | 25
Cokin @20
The writing has to be clear, before one talks about reading skills. People can't infer your thoughts.
What makes you think I'm anti-communist??
I'm anti- marionette.
Posted by: Jerr | Sep 29 2023 12:46 utc | 26
The western MSM is increasingly focused on Ukraine's random strikes in Crimea. They are making delusional assumptions that this also would equate to Russia losing in Zaporozhye, Artemovsk and everywhere else. But the truth is, a few long range strikes have little-no impact that can reverse the effects of costly and faltering attacks in Zaporozhye, Vremievka area and Artemovsk area. Especially Russia is doing daily 1-2x what Ukraine is achieving in one week in comparison with long range strikes.
There is an effect of "Overton window" where the focus is shifted away from the ground into a few pinprick strikes.
It's all about reserves. According to Military summary, AFU has committed all "strategic reserves" to Zaporozhye and Artemovsk, while Russia has managed the defense with their local already committed forces. They haven't yet touched their own "strategic reserve". The AFU air defense is close to non-existent. One of the bridge RUAF destroyed in the Kupyansk area was a missile launched from south-west part of the battlefront - it fly 400km all across the Donbass rear areas without interference.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 29 2023 12:54 utc | 27
Posted by: Jerr | Sep 29 2023 12:46 utc | 26
Just look at the times
Posted by: Gerry Bell | Sep 29 2023 10:26 utc | 2
Posted by: Colin | Sep 29 2023 10:26 utc | 3
This is the first time I've learned that not being able to anticipate comments that I haven't seen at the time of typing is "unclear writing" or "marionette".
If you didn't have a traumatic reaction triggered by the Mao's name, then I'm even more worried about your reading ability.
Posted by: Colin | Sep 29 2023 13:02 utc | 28
Posted by: Jerr | Sep 29 2023 12:46 utc | 26
Not to mention, of course, why you would elicit such inexplicable insults as "Kool-aid", "dream on teenage queen," "marionette," and so on from my single sentence if the name of Mao didn't trigger your anti-communist trauma.
In any case, if you weren't overly fragile and sensitive to Mao's name and had reasonable reading skills, you wouldn't have trouble spotting how my words could be clearly linked to b's original post.
Posted by: Colin | Sep 29 2023 13:27 utc | 29
Colin @28
Since you raised this topic, Mao’s relevant quote attributed in 1937 was:-
“The first law of war is to preserve ourselves and destroy the enemy.”
Interestingly, the US Marine Corp did an in depth study on Mao’s way of war and guerrilla tactics and actually wrote a book and translated his works in 1961. It was approved for public release in 1989. It seems, the US Army drew no lessons from this book in Vietnam, which the Vietminh used against the French and the Vietcong against the Americans.
If you are interested, the link is below.
Regarding the discourse you have with Jerr, there is no need to get into a bar fight.
Posted by: Passé-Partout | Sep 29 2023 13:32 utc | 30
It was Russia who started this offense not called war. So what is this about "Ukraine not being successful"? Should this not be "Russia has completely failed her objective due to treachery, confusion and moronic leadership full of failures?
Posted by: Sam | Sep 29 2023 13:35 utc | 31
Sam @31
Sam, can you remind or enlighten me what were Russia’s objectives for the SMO? I know there are 3 and enunciated very clearly by Putin on the eve of the commencement of the SMO.
Posted by: Passé-Partout | Sep 29 2023 13:40 utc | 32
Posted by: Passé-Partout | Sep 29 2023 13:32 utc | 30
I was referring to this.
Unfortunately, he made an inexplicable provocation against me, and I was just shooting back at him for saying so.
Posted by: Colin | Sep 29 2023 13:43 utc | 33
"One of the bridge RUAF destroyed in the Kupyansk area was a missile launched from south-west part of the battlefront - it fly 400km all across the Donbass rear areas without interference.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 29 2023 12:54 utc | 27"
I heard Dima say that this morning too. My only problem with his analysis is he's assuming the editor of the video had actual footage of aircraft launching the missile rather than using footage of another strike edited in for 'artistic' purposes which Dima geolocated as being 400km away.
That bridge was close to the frontline. Does it really make sense to use a long range weapon when they could have used a much cheaper weapon from a range that offered less opportunity for interception and maybe save the long range weapons for long range strikes?
I love Dima and appreciate everything he's doing ... I watch twice a day every day however he's an amateur military analyst and he sometimes guesses wrong. You have to take everything you hear with a grain of salt ... even from Dima.
Posted by: HB_Norica | Sep 29 2023 13:50 utc | 34
At this point Ukraine is a zombie state, its dying body propped up by life support from the US/West. The only functional part of Ukraine is its propaganda industry. The belief in the West is that if you go on pretending that Ukraine is a functioning place, then wishes will become reality. I expect that Ukraine, and its front line, will collapse before the year is done.
Posted by: Mike R | Sep 29 2023 13:59 utc | 35
…..,Don't forget the O-clubs and NEX's...
Posted by: Adriatic Hillbilly | Sep 29 2023 12:33 utc | 21…..
A school buddy of mine , retired military lifer, who lives part time in Munich, is really pissed off that he has to drive the 45 minutes to Garmisch to buy at the PX. He blames the Germans for forcing him to pay retail.
It’s kinda funny to hear him rant on the subject.
Posted by: Exile | Sep 29 2023 13:59 utc | 36
More Ukronazi terrorism: https://ground.news/article/bomb-threat-forces-evacuation-of-russian-orthodox-seminary-and-monastery-in-new-york
Posted by: Former Observer | Sep 29 2023 14:12 utc | 38
Posted by: HB_Norica | Sep 29 2023 13:50 utc | 34
Maybe it was target practice, working out the bugs for long range strikes. Possibly a missile can more accurately hit the support pylons that will ensure the bridge can't be repaired.
Posted by: Mike R | Sep 29 2023 14:15 utc | 39
The command of the Ukrainian Armed Forces is withdrawing the 47th brigade from the Rabotino area to the rear due to its refusal to carry out combat missions amid high losses, - Russian Ministry of Defense.The 47th Mechanized Infantry Brigade "Magura" was trained by NATO specialists and armed with Western equipment. During the Ukrainian counteroffensive, the brigade suffered colossal losses, which led to its withdrawal from the front line.
Another brigade mauled and pulled out. Also the reports by Military Chronical mentioned AFU has concentrated 5+ brigades in this rather small area - since they are in a cauldron and with minimal fire support and few options to hit back, they are being hit every day. They are attacking in the trench south of Verbove only with light weapons, and RU periodically make a counter-attack / bombard the trench and take it back. And then AFU tries to retake it with infantry and the cycle goes on.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 29 2023 14:31 utc | 40
When there are no more Ukrainians to sacrifice, Zelensky will no longer ask for weapons but for troops...
Can NATO accept losing, what about escalation?
"Ending the war by a negotiated peace
Legitimate self-defense and the quest for a just and lasting peace are not contradictory"
Negotiation proposal by Professor Dr. Peter Brandt, Professor Dr. Hajo Funke, General (ret.) Harald Kujat and Professor Dr. h. c. Horst Teltschik
https://zeitgeschehen-im-fokus.ch/en/newspaper-ausgabe-en/article-translated-in-english.html#article_1565
“Ukrainian conflict demonstrated, from the very start of the conflict, that nuclear deterrence does not work”
Fabio Mini, General Armed Forces Italy
https://volerelaluna.it/in-primo-piano/2023/09/19/lucraina-e-in-ginocchio-e-leuropa-alla-canna-del-gas-intervista-al-generale-mini/
Posted by: Tak-Tik | Sep 29 2023 14:31 utc | 41
Ukraine Weekly Update - May be Useful to Some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-weekly-update-93c
Posted by: Robert Hamilton Camp | Sep 29 2023 14:32 utc | 42
Posted by: Mario | Sep 29 2023 11:30 utc | 11
The European Union hears you: The EU has set a legally binding target of 11.7% reduction in energy consumption by 2030.
These people really live in a dream world.
Posted by: Passerby | Sep 29 2023 14:35 utc | 43
The idea that Ukraine could go extinct is no joke:
https://aoav.org.uk/2023/cradles-and-conflicts-is-ukraine-facing-a-demographic-death-spiral/
"a silent genocide". Huge numbers of women of child bearing age have left and may not come back. Men are being crippled or having genitals shredded. There is a prediction that they may drop to the lowest birthrate on earth in the coming year. Why die for for a vanishing nation?
Posted by: Eighthman | Sep 29 2023 14:35 utc | 44
Posted by: Colin | Sep 29 2023 10:26 utc | 3
It's a generally more "soviet" approach to war suited to armies fighting on large territories: let the others spend their men first, then punch through. It also sounds like the tactics used by arm wrestlers.
Posted by: Lemming | Sep 29 2023 14:37 utc | 45
hmm Ukraine is the Feinstein of geopolitics. i wonder if they will continue to prop up her corpse to vote. weekend at Diane's.
Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 29 2023 14:39 utc | 46
27 - Obviously a diversion from the less than inspiring ground warfare news.
Posted by: Waldorf | Sep 29 2023 14:47 utc | 47
Russia interferes with the GPS signal of ships in Romanian territorial waters." This carries with it the danger of a ship collision. Romania and NATO must prepare for a long confrontation with the Russian regime" - said the Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Romania, General Daniel Petrescu."Now we do not see an end to this war, and while we admire the resilience of Ukrainian society in the face of Russian attacks, we must also prepare for a prolonged confrontation with the regime of the Russian Federation." We feel this confrontation very well, especially on the eastern wing of NATO and especially in the Black Sea region. The Russian Federation's war in Ukraine fundamentally destabilized the Black Sea region" - said Petrescu.
https://twitter.com/Sprinter99800/status/1707765304544100380
So they want a "long war". With China also increasingly irritated toward Nato and NK in the alliance it might not be the most wisest choice. Ukraine will simply be chewed in unfavorable environment and any Romanians or others thrown into the mix.
Also Mark Sleboda and Brian Berletic have a new video on the "long war". Btw, it should be mentioned that the "long war" narrative is simply an alternative way US uses to express that the AFU counter-attack failed. Russia is also building a rail connection through Mariupol to Crimea, which will be sooner or later finished and make the Kerch strait bridge more redundant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK4SZ5IzeRE
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 29 2023 14:49 utc | 48
@Stierlitz 25
That radio frequency has been active since July and was ebbed the subject of an MoD advert in Ukrainian. Only now is Dima mentioning it?
It's not "they'll pick you up", but they'll try and give you a safe passage rhein the lines, both by suppression of nazi fire and by alerting Russian units to not shoot at you.
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Sep 29 2023 14:57 utc | 49
@ Mike R 39
About using a long-rang missile to strike a bridge near the front line.
"Maybe it was target practice, working out the bugs for long range strikes. Possibly a missile can more accurately hit the support pylons that will ensure the bridge can't be repaired."
If it was target practice or working out the bugs, that would only be done on Russian territory, for convenience and spotters. If there were bugs to be worked out, you would want to be able to retrieve the wreckage for analysis. So those reasons don't hold water. It seems the Russians mostly test everything before it's sent into combat.
Then there's the question of Russia destroying bridges. I think no bridges were destroyed until after the Ukie sabotage operations in Belgorod oblast, and then only one small bridge near the border. But lately, a half-dozen bridges, small ones I think, near Kupyansk. My guess is that Russia would not hit the pylons because they want to put any destroyed bridges back into operation after they get the territory, and we can be sure the Ukies can't or won't repair the bridges in the meantime. Repairs cost money and any reconstruction work is easily bombed.
Posted by: JessDTruth | Sep 29 2023 15:00 utc | 50
When I read the NYT I don't ask myself whether something they write is true or false. I ask myself why are they telling me this and why now?
Is the NYT building the Plan A: "we need to cut our losses" narrative or the Plan B: "we need to double down" narrative? I would hope it's Plan A, but they often end up down Plan B.
Posted by: Tundra Man | Sep 29 2023 15:02 utc | 52
There are more experienced storm troopers. More and more assault units are beginning to consist not of penalty prisoners, but of those for whom such events as assault are a way of life. From, so to speak, ideological thrill-seekers.I recently encountered someone like this in the hospital. He’s still lying there, but he’s already dreaming of how to quickly heal and return to his unit. This is the reality.
The tactics of experienced assault troops have also undergone changes. The drone + human combination is increasingly used in assault events. At the same time, there are different variations of this ligament.
For example, the commander of an assault company observes the battlefield from a reconnaissance drone with good optics and zoom, coordinates attack aircraft via communications, indicating to them dangerous areas and the location of the enemy. If the enemy begins to offer active resistance and the assault groups are stalled and cannot advance further due to dense enemy fire, the commander raises the drone with a drop to bombard the center of resistance, or if available, connects the operator of the FPV drone, which also hits the enemy and the assault groups continue moving.
In general, the drone + human combination has shown its very high efficiency with proper organization of the process.
Posted by: anon2020 | Sep 29 2023 15:09 utc | 53
Posted by: pick | Sep 29 2023 15:01 utc | 51
uh yeah, that's why i referred to propping up her corpse.
Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 29 2023 15:13 utc | 54
The command of the Ukrainian Armed Forces is withdrawing the 47th brigade from the Rabotino area to the rear due to its refusal to carry out combat missions amid high losses, - Russian Ministry of Defense.
The 47th Mechanized Infantry Brigade "Magura" was trained by NATO specialists and armed with Western equipment. During the Ukrainian counteroffensive, the brigade suffered colossal losses, which led to its withdrawal from the front line.
Another brigade mauled and pulled out. Also the reports by Military Chronical mentioned AFU has concentrated 5+ brigades in this rather small area - since they are in a cauldron and with minimal fire support and few options to hit back, they are being hit every day. They are attacking in the trench south of Verbove only with light weapons, and RU periodically make a counter-attack / bombard the trench and take it back. And then AFU tries to retake it with infantry and the cycle goes on.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 29 2023 14:31 utc | 40
Wasn't the American Matt VanDyke part of the 47th .. Anyone following the judge Napolitano knows what i'm talking about. Here's an example:
https://youtu.be/ZzDgrqiFb_A?feature=shared
Posted by: blueswede | Sep 29 2023 15:18 utc | 55
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Sep 29 2023 10:34 utc | 4
And guess which video with which comments will appear on western medias...
Posted by: Patience | Sep 29 2023 15:21 utc | 56
Posted by: Tundra Man | Sep 29 2023 15:02 utc | 52
they may be getting different talking points from different factions.
Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 29 2023 15:30 utc | 57
Posted by: Jerr | Sep 29 2023 12:01 utc | 17
Glad you don't even know what anyone is talking about. Let me avoid you confusing everyone else...
Posted by: Colin | Sep 29 2023 12:33 utc | 20
Yeah, this clown doesn't know what he's talking about re: communism. Nonetheless, he definitely feels some sense of patriotic duty to denounce any mention of the political theory and reality that pretty much dominated the entire 20th century and is likely to rise again in the 21st as the wage slaves of the world are once again crushed under the weight of unrestrained western billionaire oligarchs and their fascist goons.
However, I like that "Dream on teenage queen" line. I think it's from a 50s song or something.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 29 2023 15:34 utc | 58
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 29 2023 14:49 utc | 48
AFAIK, GPS work in a passive way. The ship, aircraft or whatever receive signals from, at least, 3 different satellites.
Jamming or interfering with GPS would mean that RF, can interfere with the signals of the west GPS satellites.
I doubt this is even possible
Posted by: Mario | Sep 29 2023 15:37 utc | 59
I noticed at least two obvious trolls on this thread. As the quote says: I will not feed them, for their comments are too stupid to merit anything else than contempt.
Posted by: Patience | Sep 29 2023 15:38 utc | 60
Posted by: Colin | Sep 29 2023 12:39 utc | 24
Could be, but given that NATO does not have sufficient materiel, particularly ordnance, to successfully prosecute this war, starting another one at this juncture would seem unwise and/or premature.
(Not that that’s stopped our fearless leaders in the past, though.)
Posted by: Sudsie76 | Sep 29 2023 15:39 utc | 61
hmm Ukraine is the Feinstein of geopolitics. i wonder if they will continue to prop up her corpse to vote. weekend at Diane's.
Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 29 2023 14:39 utc | 46
And Biden and feterman and McConnell..I think it's so difficult to find people to push insane politics against the will and interest of the people that the billionaires prefer to have corpses with reliable handlers.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 29 2023 15:39 utc | 62
@46
she died finally.
Posted by: pick | Sep 29 2023 15:01 utc | 51
She'll still be voting.
Posted by: Phil R | Sep 29 2023 15:50 utc | 63
It was Russia who started this offense not called war. So what is this about "Ukraine not being successful"? Should this not be "Russia has completely failed her objective due to treachery, confusion and moronic leadership full of failures?
Posted by: Sam | Sep 29 2023 13:35 utc | 31
In the start of WW2 the Americans lost an entire army in the Philippines to a force smaller than them, and an entire pacific force in Pearl Harbor. The Anglo-French forces lost Paris in mere a couple months, and lost a massive part of their colonial territories and their troops.
We talk about winning or losing a war only after it ends. Russia may be losing battles and suffering causalities, but it keeps on fighting and so do the Ukrainians suffers causalities too. You want to be reminded about that throughout the war Ukraine fired it's entire Defense ministry, it's vice-president and all of it's drafting officials due to "corruption?"
War isn't about not making mistakes, it's about making less mistakes than your enemy.
Posted by: T6 | Sep 29 2023 15:51 utc | 64
@Mike R | Sep 29 2023 13:59 utc | 35
At this point Ukraine is a zombie state, its dying body propped up by life support from the US/West. The only functional part of Ukraine is its propaganda industry. The belief in the West is that if you go on pretending that Ukraine is a functioning place, then wishes will become reality. I expect that Ukraine, and its front line, will collapse before the year is done.I have made similar predictions for a while, so I agree. I can stretch it to the 10 year anniversary of the Maidan coup, but I doubt a collapse can be delayed more than that.
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 29 2023 15:56 utc | 65
Russia's strategy is working perfectly. Hold the line with a minimal number of troops while the enemy throws himself at your ordnance ay enormous human cost.
In the meantime watch while the enemy, and its allies fall into successive crises- economic, social and finally political.
The beauty of it is that Russia has actually, without anyone noticing, rebuilt its military which is now a massive reserve ready to repel any attempt to initiate a diversionary war in the Caucasus, the Belarus and Kalingrad regions, the Baltic or Far East. Thus solving one of the problems left over from the Yeltsin era without setting off any alarm bells and propaganda offensives in the rest of the world- everyone understands that Russia has been forced to regain its Great Power military status.
But the main thing is that without doing anything except deprive NATO of either of the two things it desires- a dramatic invasion of Ukrainian territory, forcing the West to enter the war openly and with troops, or a Russian defeat which would reward the victims of the economic and social crises in NATO countries with some kind of psychic compensation for the high fuel bills and falling living standards- Russia can sit back and work out what comes next.
Yesterday, for example there was an interesting op-ed at RT by a Moscow Fifth Columnist, a former Kremlin insider, arguing that Russia's place in the world was as the third part of a dominant triumvirate consisting of the US, Europe and itself. It was classic Westerniser and neo-liberal nonsense with a strong odour of racism of the anti Asiatic kind about it. NATO should allow Russia to take its place within the alliance- he was saying.
It was indicative of the strength the politics of Pussy Riot, Navalny and the Fifth Column retains in Moscow.
My argument is that Russia's current strategy, which is demonstrating very clearly whose side, in the Great Patriotic War, the US, Canadian and other NATO governments are backing, is a reinforcement of the Eurasian course which the leadership has been forced to develop, a course which Russian opinion and particularly the Anglo obsessed intelligentsia ( Americans with accents) seems to have been slow to adopt, because it means throwing in their lot with the unfashionable victims of imperialism -the wretched of the earth. And that smacks of a return to the dark days of the Soviet Union when Levi jeans and scholarships at Harvard were equally unobtainable.
That patience brings its own rewards was perfectly exemplified by the slowly unfolding situation in Ottawa where it the visit of Zelensky gave rise to exactly the kind of political opening that Lavrov, Medvedev and Putin have been working for since 2014- a long delayed and oublic re-examination of the fprces that brought about the (excuse me while I vomit) 'Revolution of Dignity' in the Maidan Square.
Posted by: bevin | Sep 29 2023 15:58 utc | 66
It was Russia who started this offense not called war. So what is this about "Ukraine not being successful"? Should this not be "Russia has completely failed her objective due to treachery, confusion and moronic leadership full of failures?
Posted by: Sam | Sep 29 2023 13:35 utc | 31
I disagree....
The US/NATO started this war by sheltering and abetting UkroNazis shortly after the end of WWII in 1945... They shifted into high gear following the dissolution of the USSR in 1991, with color revolutions in 2005 and 2014. They brought in snipers and Nuland herself admitted to $ 5 billion spent on the Ukraine project as of 2014.
The goal was always to exterminate Russians within the territory...
To that end they burnt alive ~ 50 in the Odessa Trades Union building including pregnant women, beatup busses of Crimean protesters on their way home, and sent tanks into DonBas, and goons into Mariupol and Krakov..
What happened in 2022 was Russia forestalled the combined Ukie/NATO offensive against DonBas..
Now, Russia and her allies are de-militarizing the Ukies and their NATO handlers...
In summary, the CIA/MI6 folks started this war and Russia/China/Iran will finish it.
INDY
Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 29 2023 16:09 utc | 67
"arguing that Russia's place in the world was as the third part of a dominant triumvirate consisting of the US, Europe and itself"
Had Russia been accepted into NATO that might have happened, but as it turns out western elites hated Russia for being Russian, not for being Communist. In fact a lot of Western groups preferred Russia as Communist - where are the Greenham Women now, as flight after flight leaves UK shores for Rzeszow or Black Sea SIGINT missions?
But purely from the selfish US perspective it was a bad idea for the US to force together the world's energy giant and the world's manufacturing giant, while crippling the only real western manufacturing power - Germany. I'd have liked to see Russia and Germany as allies.
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Sep 29 2023 16:10 utc | 68
But purely from the selfish US perspective it was a bad idea for the US to force together the world's energy giant and the world's manufacturing giant, while crippling the only real western manufacturing power - Germany. I'd have liked to see Russia and Germany as allies.
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Sep 29 2023 16:10 utc | 68
It beggars description, it does. And that the Germans went along with it too. "Whom the Gods would destroy ..."
Nothing will get you in more trouble faster than being a know-it-all.
And equally the idea that the USA can take up the slack like it did in WWII now. Those of us who still remember that economy know this one produces only cheap consumer crap.
Posted by: Bemildred | Sep 29 2023 16:19 utc | 69
Actually, looking at the map, the gains/losses along the line of contact look like small pimples which strikes me as if the gains/losses don't amount to diddlysquat. On the other hand, it is The West that is being bled white. Unlike Russia, The West's wealth and power are built on a bed of sand ... I mean debt. I suspect this will end with a whimper rather than a bang, unless, of course, the US decides to go nuclear......
Posted by: Jeff Harrison | Sep 29 2023 16:27 utc | 70
@ Bemildred | Sep 29 2023 16:19 utc | 69
thanks for highlighting that.. i agree!
Posted by: james | Sep 29 2023 16:34 utc | 71
@ Bemildred | Sep 29 2023 16:19 utc | 69
thanks for highlighting that.. i agree!
Posted by: james | Sep 29 2023 16:34 utc | 71
Hi James, nice to see you around. I find myself speechless frequently these days,
Posted by: Bemildred | Sep 29 2023 16:38 utc | 72
Mario | Sep 29 2023 15:37 utc | 59
GPS works by synchronizing and triangulating the relative time skew between several pseudo-random sequences broadcast on upper UHF bands from known, monitored positions in orbit. These signals can also be produced and disrupted by a local transmitter, intentionally or otherwise. I've had it happen that another GPS receiver operating in the same car pulls a first GPS navigation device several dozen meters off course, onto the next street over. There is no technical reason that a slightly more sophisticated signal generator could not induce larger and more controlled errors in a targeted receiver, even one in motion. It's not some kind of sacred Anglo magic. It's just the same old boring geometry from pre-modern times.
Posted by: Concerned Citizen | Sep 29 2023 16:40 utc | 73
Simplicius posted a third round of 'mailbag' answers within which is a link to a youtube video of a trip to Tuva which is quite interesting. I haven't visited Tuva but have been to Buryatia which has some similarities.
Posted by: the pessimist | Sep 29 2023 16:43 utc | 74
AFAIK, GPS work in a passive way. The ship, aircraft or whatever receive signals from, at least, 3 different satellites.
Jamming or interfering with GPS would mean that RF, can interfere with the signals of the west GPS satellites.
I doubt this is even possible
Posted by: Mario | Sep 29 2023 15:37 utc | 59
Signals can be jammed.
Did you research even a little?
https://pages.crfs.com/blog/how-to-deal-with-gps-jamming-and-spoofing
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GPS jamming is a relatively uncomplicated technique that simply involves producing an RF signal strong enough to drown out the transmissions from GPS satellites. The subject of a GPS jamming attack will be instantly aware that something is wrong, as the system will be unable to produce a geolocation result.
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Even more dangerous as jamming is the faking of signal data.
If this data is processed the outcome of action will be different as expected.
Posted by: 600w | Sep 29 2023 16:43 utc | 75
You have to take everything you hear with a grain of salt ... even from Dima.Posted by: HB_Norica | Sep 29 2023 13:50 utc | 34
Indeed, the missile used is claimed to be an X36 short range S to A missile.
Not sure 400km is short range and in any case why launch from Kherson area when it could be safely delivered from just north of Moscow?
Doesn't add up.
As always, bring your own discernment.
Posted by: ChatNPC | Sep 29 2023 16:54 utc | 76
@ Bemildred | Sep 29 2023 16:38 utc | 72
thanks! ditto and likewise!! i am going on a trip next week as well and won't be around much until mid october.. blessings to you!
Posted by: james | Sep 29 2023 16:56 utc | 77
Stories about territorial gains and losses are ludicrous. By now everyone ought to know Russia is focused on destroying Ukraine’s capacity to fight, not on territorial gains. Throughout history, Russia has used real estate — and she has lots of it — as a strategic asset. Russia is following the same general strategy, namely, letting Ukrainian troops committing suicidal operations…
It is sad that Ukraine’s commanders don’t know or care. Soon, there won’t be a Ukrainian military and Russia will push westward (and, possibly, southward from Belarus) and will meet little resistance.
Posted by: Joseph B | Sep 29 2023 16:59 utc | 78
Posted by: Exile | Sep 29 2023 13:59 utc | 36
well, he could always move to K-town...
Posted by: Adriatic Hillbilly | Sep 29 2023 17:06 utc | 79
The military commissar of the Lviv region found personal poultry farms, dozens of land plots and hundreds of thousands of dollars.After the publication of a resonant video of the beating of a Kharkov resident by an employee of the Sambir TCC, the national anti-corruption agency took into account the head of the local military registration and enlistment office, Colonel Sergei Babich, who was “suddenly” discovered to have an undeclared fortune worth several million hryvnia.
So, the property acquired by his backbreaking labor:
1. poultry farm in the village. Monastyrets, Sambir district;
2. poultry farm in the village. Olshanik, Sambir district;
3. poultry farm in the village. Settlement of the Drohobych region;
4. cafe and pizzeria in Sambir;
5. several stores;
6. New Toyota Land Cruiser 200;
7. house of 400 square meters in Sambir;
8. several apartments in Lviv and Sambir;
9. dozens of land plots;
10. has real estate abroad.It also turned out that the cost of obtaining a “white ticket” to Colonel Babich’s TCC is $10-12 thousand, and during the hostilities he conducted more than a thousand people in this way.
https://t.me/rezident_ua/19885
Posted by: Down South | Sep 29 2023 17:44 utc | 80
So the New York Times is (finally) acting like a newspaper and not dressing things up and B is writing a column about it. Oddly enough this adds to the credibility of New York Times as a news organization and detracts from MoA's.
Can B find a single news organization in Russia (just one will do, Bernhard) that shows the same even handed approach?
West is a wrongdoer but is head and shoulders above the gangs running the Resistance. Every single one of the contenders, Russia, China, Iran, India provides ample contemporary evidence as to why West is on top. It wasn't entirely an accident of history.
Same story with the Great Game and "Anglo-Saxons" and Russians scheming to be the biggest Empire. Russians have lost this Great Game 3 times already and they are masters at playing victim so they get another go at the Great Game with "Anglo-Saxons".
So the Great Game continues on MoA, which as noted "detracts" from its value as a source of rational critique of the world order.
Posted by: AngledSaxofone | Sep 29 2023 18:00 utc | 81
Posted by: AngledSaxofone | Sep 29 2023 18:00 utc |
The West has rotted to the core, Angled, watch this video then come back tell us why doesn't your "head and shoulders above the gangs running the Resistance" NYT challenge the ghastly Clinton woman and her lies about Putin's interference in the American election, pay particular attention from 3:45min, the GOP commercial tells you the real reason the West is in Ukraine, it has FA to do with democracy, freedoms and stuff we are fighting to destroy Russia and weaken China.
Since when after WW2 is it OK for a country to destroy another?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-Q73UbxBL8
Posted by: Baron | Sep 29 2023 18:29 utc | 82
@73 @75
Shure you can jam the GPS signals but the transmitter must be near the target.
First the power of the transmitter is proportional to the square of distance from the target.
Second GPS signal are in the microwave region, this mean they work in LoS, unless you have the jammer on a plane this means 64km, more or less.
If and when you use something like that you immediately became a target and possibly disrupt also your own GPS, even if working on different frequencies.
Spoofing, or providing fake data is even more difficult, provided that military GPS data are coded.
Putting a jammer near static target as, let's say Moscow, is possible and rumors indicate that has already be done.
Jamming ships in the Black Sea, possibly in the waters of Romania is completely different business.
Posted by: Mario | Sep 29 2023 18:40 utc | 83
@AngledSaxofone&81
Ola! This is a curious frontal attack on the credibility of MoA! It extolls the “evenhandedness” of the NYT, (and by implication of the entire “West”) as far as news reporting is concerned.
It is hard to know where to start to counter those few paragraphs. I think the author is very much aware how he is spinning the truth in favor of NYT.
Let’s start with the ‘evenhandedness’ of NYT – how long did it take the NYT to show it? How long did it push lies and omit truth? Did it report and analyze possible people and motives to destroy the NS pipelines, just now after full year of “investigations”…
Another short aside planted in this comment is the “ ..why West is on top. It wasn't entirely an accident of history.” – it invites to speculations about authors intentions, what did he mean - to start a race discussion? Odd.
Posted by: fanto | Sep 29 2023 18:43 utc | 84
Posted by: AngledSaxofone | Sep 29 2023 18:00 utc | 81
What a good NAFO troll Logic:
When the MSM makes a rare admission of partial truth to avoid people recognizing more truth: "adds to the credibility of New York Times as a news organization."
When the Russian media tells more of the truth: "There's no balance of opinion here"
Maybe the facts have an anti-West bias?
Keep claiming that "Russia is playing the victim" when there is only this "evidence". And then treating the results as the cause "Russia, China, Iran, India provides ample contemporary evidence as to why West is on top".
In fact, it was also believed after World War II that the Japanese had many bad qualities that prevented them from succeeding. After Japan's rapid economic growth, this turned out to be an over-exaggeration of Japanese.
Posted by: Colin | Sep 29 2023 18:50 utc | 85
Posted by: fanto | Sep 29 2023 18:43 utc | 84
NAFO troll approach: when the MSM finally has to acknowledge the problem in a hundred twisted ways, it means the MSM does great balanced reporting.
When Russia fails to report the claim that Ukraine killed hundreds of thousands of Russian soldiers: the lack of balanced reporting by the Russian media means that Russia is bound to fail again and the Anglo-Saxon empire lives on forever!
Posted by: Colin | Sep 29 2023 18:53 utc | 86
142 sq km gain divide by x amount of casualties = a lot for every metre. I leave the maths for the various variable numbers but thats a lot of dead stacked on top of each other for every metre .
Posted by: hankster | Sep 29 2023 19:01 utc | 87
85 - It is always interesting when the MSM go "off message", to use a British term.
For example, at one point in the Syrian conflict an anti-government insurgent boasted of eating pieces of the body of a killed government soldier, and his statements were reported in the MSM, "Time" magazine, I think. The MSM could have suppressed it and probably had done in other cases. But this cannibalism by a "freedom fighter" got mentioned. Why?
Well, perhaps the ferocity of the anti-Assad insurgents was becoming so obvious that it could not be hidden. Many were prone to execute prisoners on film etc. The word may have gone out not to get too close to them. "Assad is an evil tyrant etc but let's preserve some freedom of manoeuvre" - this may have been a sentiment in newsrooms, perhaps passed on by government departments.
Posted by: Waldorf | Sep 29 2023 19:09 utc | 88
Every single one of the contenders, Russia, China, Iran, India provides ample contemporary evidence as to why West is on top. It wasn't entirely an accident of history. Posted by: AngledSaxofone | Sep 29 2023 18:00 utc | 81
In case you didn't notice, every single support pillar that helped the west "to the top" has been destroyed by the neoliberal/globo-homo ideology. Ranging from agriculture, families, factories, freedoms and liberties, democracy. Population structure is undergoing deterioration and the consumption based economy is shrinking, leading to weaker base to support Nato.
Consequentially, the social welfare system is being significantly weakened just to maintain Nato at status quo. Even that is faltering and Nato is suffering high inflation when they tried to more of anything.
The petrodollar system, the base of everything, ist Kaputt at this point. Because US lost oil markets, they are trying to compensate by eating its vassals instead, which is what we are now witnessing in the decline of Germany and consequentially EU.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 29 2023 19:15 utc | 89
The EU has set a legally binding target of 11.7% reduction in energy consumption by 2030.
These people really live in a dream world.
Posted by: Passerby | Sep 29 2023 14:35 utc | 43
Well, according to the CDC's statistics, taking five shots on the American roulette will on average reduce a thirty-year old man's life expectancy by 24 years (as an example). Considering that as soon as the Ukraine project is swept under the rug, covid 2.0 is going to start, this time with all the lessons from the first round analysed and integrated, with the infrastructure for much more totalitarian control partially in place and most critical voices silenced, I'm sure that reducing the energy-consuming population by 11.7% by 2030 is easy. Plus they seem eager to do their 15 minute prison city thing.
Posted by: Jusses | Sep 29 2023 19:16 utc | 90
When I read the NYT I don't ask myself whether something they write is true or false. I ask myself why are they telling me this and why now?
Is the NYT building the Plan A: "we need to cut our losses" narrative or the Plan B: "we need to double down" narrative? I would hope it's Plan A, but they often end up down Plan B.
Posted by: Tundra Man | Sep 29 2023 15:02 utc | 52
Exactly my attitude. It is time for everyone to dispense with the idea that there is any scintilla of journalistic integrity and standards to the western MSM. The presstitutes working for the latter are solid, dedicated propagandists in the service of the Anglo-American regime. Thus, the only thing that matters in any "news" they report is the propagandistic value. And that includes tiny nuggets of truth or unpalatable admissions, sometimes with the single goal of maintaining their fraudulent journalistic credentials.
Posted by: Constantine | Sep 29 2023 19:29 utc | 91
Posted by: ChatNPC | Sep 29 2023 16:54 utc | 76
Because the two pieces of footage are separate incidents, I’m pretty sure Russia’s ASM inventory does not carry a 400km weapon that could target a land bridge.
Posted by: hankster | Sep 29 2023 19:01 utc | 87
There was an account by a Polish mercenary called a casualty per metre, detailing 100 KIA for 100m gained, so we are talking WW1 numbers in the hot zones.
Posted by: bevin | Sep 29 2023 15:58 utc | 66
A lot of people have noticed, hence calls to try to freeze the front. Many suspect Putin deliberately engineered and exploited the collapse around Kharkov just so that the Russian people were more amenable to a massive expansion of a formerly territorial defence force. As for Russia taking its place as part of a triumvirate, why not? After all Putin suggested Russian join NATO and no amount of hoping will stop the West from still maintaining a powerful conventional and nuclear force. The same predictions of Western decline were prematurely announced after Vietnam, but only 5-6 years later US military forces were resurgent and by 85’ onwards superior to the Soviet Union to such an extent that they worried their numbers were no longer a deterrent or as a credible offensive force.
Posted by: Milites | Sep 29 2023 19:35 utc | 92
From Pepe:
Meanwhile, the Hegemon is making a killing – literally – with its proxy war in Ukraine.The basics: over half of agro-Ukraine is now owned by Monsanto, Cargill and Dupont, bought for a pittance and profiting from the most corrupt environment in any country in the world.
Ukraine seeds were destroyed: Monsanto now runs the whole GMO racket. Ukraine cereals going to raped Europa equal full control of the EU’s agriculture and food market.
On the military front, the U.S. weapons matrix and its satellites continue to profit immensely from what is in effect money laundering of public funds. Ukraine simultaneously became:
1.The graveyard for outdated weapons in need of recycling.
A privileged “laboratory for military innovation” (like Afghanistan and Iraq, previously) – as admitted by the Pentagon’s number two, Mara Carlin, at the Ronald Reagan University.
3.A show room for global exports (well, Abrams tanks about to be incinerated by the Russians don’t exactly qualify as a strong selling point).On the energy front, it’s all about the Nord Streams, all over again. The remixed Rape of Europa comes complete with ancillary financial bulls BlackRock, Vanguard and State Street totally controlling the spot market for anything the EU wants to buy, with prices occasionally 20 times higher than before.
This is just the short version of what “helping Ukraine” is really about.
And still the wunderwaffen keep coming: F16s are next in line.
Andrei Martyanov summed it all up, concisely: “The combined West failed at war”. As in NATO’s utter humiliation will be cosmic. And that comes with a – possible – punchline – for which obviously one cannot have direct confirmation in the corridors of power in Moscow: “Russians did plan for that, they just couldn’t anticipate that the West would self-annihilate itself that fast”.
It’s firmly established that in the Kremlin’s strategy the ultimate aim is to demilitarize and smash NATO. We’re getting there, slowly but surely. What is already established is that the Serial Rape of Europa by the American bull has totally broken it – physically, economically, culturally and psychologically.
Pepe doesn't elaborate but I wonder if most of the land owned by Big Ag isn't now already in Russian hands given that most of the 'black soil' is in Donbass, no? I also wonder if DU munitions has made that soil unusable for a while. Does any one have a more granular understanding of that situation?
The 'Governing Editor' of the NYT is the US State Department.
Figure it out.
Their gardening section isn't great either!
Posted by: Don Firineach | Sep 29 2023 19:48 utc | 94
Pepe doesn't elaborate but I wonder if most of the land owned by Big Ag isn't now already in Russian hands given that most of the 'black soil' is in Donbass, no? I also wonder if DU munitions has made that soil unusable for a while. Does any one have a more granular understanding of that situation?Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 29 2023 19:38 utc | 93
IIRC most of the land were some sort of purchasing options and located in Odessa-Nikolaev-Krivoy Rog - Dnepro regions. That is where the fertile black soil land is. Also if you look up a mineral resource map of Ukraine, you can also notice most of the valuable metals are between Dnepro-Krivoy-Rog - Kirovograd region and bit south of Kiev, and also in the Donbass.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 29 2023 19:51 utc | 95
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Sep 29 2023 16:10 utc | 68
Your comment about the opposition of Washington to Russo-German cooperation is correct, but the suggestion that the west preferred a communist Russia is truly beyond the pale. Did you miss the part of the 90s when the Russian state denounced its Soviet heritage, sold its assets to local and foreign parasites and became a vassal state? Somehow, this had never happened during the entire Soviet period.
The hostility towards Russia in the context of imperial competition is one thing. But a Russia morphing into the USSR, denouncing the concept of western supremacy and colonialism and providing for options (NOT necessarily communist, mind you) that include the disempowerment of the ruling oligarchies is another. China is presntly in the same position and look how it's targeted.
It would be of benefit to you to pay attention to the fact that whenever countries of the east and the Global SOuth praise Russia for its support of the anti-colonial struggle, they ALWAYS refer to the Soviet era and the critical aid, political and material, it offered to these nations against the colonial empires. Compare, for example, the aid the RSFSR/early Soviet Union offered to Sun Yat-Sen and the CPC versus the late imperial Russian efforts to cease Manchuria in 1904.
Posted by: Constantine | Sep 29 2023 19:53 utc | 96
@ Scorpion | Sep 29 2023 19:38 utc | 93
Big Ag was all over the place prior to, and post, Maidan. Consortium News covered it at the time ...
Dominating European Ag has been on the US agenda for some time - it hates the Common Agricultural Policy and a largely deindustrialized Europe dependent of US for both Energy and Grain is a pliant vassal.
Tough to be a reasonably 'in the know' European these days. Lemmings ...
Posted by: Don Firineach | Sep 29 2023 19:55 utc | 97
Our source in the OP said that the Office of the President suspects Zaluzhny of sabotaging the headquarters’ decisions on the Azov operation, which the Commander-in-Chief blocked from the first days and did not support the crossing of the Dnieper as the second stage of the counteroffensive. Andriy Ermak believes that Zaluzhny is working together with the Americans to weaken Zelensky.
https://t.me/rezident_ua/19877
Our source from the Office of the President reported that there is a conflict between Zelensky and Zaluzhny on the issue of the landing operation on the Dnieper, the Commander-in-Chief is fundamentally against it.Today information has emerged that the Ukrainian Armed Forces are preparing a new stage of a counteroffensive in early October in the Kherson and Zaporozhye directions.
It is alleged that the Ukrainian army intends to cross the Dnieper, as well as take control of the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant with a special forces strike Special Operations Forces of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
https://t.me/rezident_ua/19887
Posted by: Down South | Sep 29 2023 19:57 utc | 98
"In summary, the CIA/MI6 folks started this war and Russia/China/Iran will finish it."
Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 29 2023 16:09 utc | 67
A great summary George. On the other hand we could all die. There's that too.
What was the saying? "Welcome to the roaring 20's".
And greetings to our many fiends in Russia and Asia. We here are nobody's enemy.
Posted by: David G Horsman | Sep 29 2023 20:01 utc | 99
This reminds me of people that I've been in fights with utilizing a strategy of pounding their face against my fists and their genitals against my steel toed boots.
Posted by: Elmer Fudd | Sep 29 2023 20:04 utc | 100
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Finally someone at the NY Times learned how to read a map!
Posted by: Chicago Bob | Sep 29 2023 10:25 utc | 1