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August 28, 2023
Ukraine SitRep – U.S. To Prolong Its Proxy War

Milley is uttering deluded nonsense.

U.S. Joint Chiefs' Gen. Milley cites Ukrainian counteroffensive 'breakthrough'

Ukraine's soldiers have penetrated the first line of Russian defense in spots along the southern front between the two countries, U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Mark Milley said Friday during a television interview with a Jordanian news outlet.

"Specifically on the axes of advance that (Ukrainian forces) are attacking right now, (Ukrainian forces) have attacked through the main defense belt," Milley told Al-Mamlaka Television.


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Show me a picture of Ukrainian tanks tackling a dragon's teeth barrier.



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You have none? Well, then you haven't even reached the first defense line.

Ukraine has taken Robotyne, a hamlet in ruins that once housed 480 people. It has cost the Ukrainian army at least a full battalion, 500 men and 30 armored vehicles, of its dwindling forces.

The CIA media asset David Ignatius has delivered the latest White House message on Ukraine. It is continuing to push for a fight down to the last Ukrainian:

As Biden administration officials assess Ukraine’s slow progress in this summer’s counteroffensive, they have been candidly discussing with Kyiv what they see as “lessons learned.” The bottom line for the administration is that this war will probably grind into next year — and that the United States and its allies must remain steadfast in helping Ukraine keep pushing forward.

I heard this same sentiment across all levels of the U.S. government in recent days. The summer has been frustrating and, in some ways, disappointing for Ukraine and its Western backers. But rather than look for a quick diplomatic exit ramp, most senior U.S. officials appear more convinced than ever of the need to stand fast with Kyiv. The United States, in their view, cannot be seen to abandon its ally.

There is a shimmer of realism breaking through but it is mixed with fantasies about the chances to bog Russia down:

But Ukraine probably won’t deal any decisive blow before year’s end. That means a continuation of this grueling war into 2024 and beyond, and a continuation of the heavy casualties and emotional trauma for both sides. U.S. officials believe strategic patience remains the best weapon against Russian President Vladimir Putin, who still thinks he can outlast Ukraine and the West.

Well, yes, Russia can outlast Ukraine and the West. Just look at the stupid advice the West is giving to Ukraine:

American commanders have long believed that the Ukrainians waste artillery fire in crushing barrages that emulate Soviet tactics. By one U.S. estimate, the Ukrainians have fired about 2 million rounds of 155mm artillery ammunition since the war began, nearly exhausting Western stockpiles. U.S. officials urge Ukraine instead to weight its artillery fires toward the most important targets and use them to advance quickly toward their objectives.

Pentagon officials have also urged Ukraine to rely less on drones for battlefield awareness and more on ground reconnaissance forces, which can assess Russian positions better. And they have pressed Kyiv to give junior officers more latitude to exploit opportunities along the sprawling front. On all these points, U.S. officials believe the Ukrainians are responding positively. But the discussion has been prickly in recent weeks.

The above is not sound military advice but an acknowledgement that the West can not produce enough artillery ammunition and drones for Ukraine to proceed:

A recent Royal United Services Institute (RUSI) report estimates that Russia fired 12 million artillery shells in 2022 and estimated the military would discharge seven million in 2023. This could indicate that Soviet-era stockpiles are thinning out. Still, the report notes that Russia is producing 2.5 million shells a year, in addition to munitions imports from North Korea and Iran.

In stark contrast, the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) estimated in January that the United States could only produce 93,000 155mm shells a year, all of which go to training exercises. If the military achieves an accelerated production schedule, it will produce 240,000 shells yearly, still less than 10 percent of Russia’s current production. Ukrainian artillery fires 8,000 rounds daily, consuming an entire month of current U.S. munitions production. Even if the Pentagon achieves its stated goal of manufacturing 90,000 shells a month by FY 2025, it still is only half of Russia’s current production level.

That lack of production capability is being covered up by a 'send anything we have, no matter how useful' attitude:

As Biden administration officials assess the likelihood that the war will continue into next year and perhaps beyond, they’re considering several important new augmentations of Western support. There’s growing backing in Washington for providing rocket-launched cluster munitions, for example, which could strike deeper than the artillery-fired versions the United States began supplying last month.

The White House also wants Ukraine to increase its terror attacks on Russian ground:

With Ukrainian forces stymied on the ground, U.S. officials believe that President Volodymyr Zelensky will take the fight increasingly to Russian territory and occupied Crimea. Friday’s reported Ukrainian attacks — with 42 drones launched at Crimea and a missile aimed at Moscow, according to Russian reports — is a foretaste of what’s ahead. The Biden administration’s position is that it doesn’t encourage or enable Ukrainian attacks on Russian territory, but officials do expect more.

They try to play innocent but in reality, as the Economist reports, the targeting of those attacks is done by Western intelligence:

Russia’s extensive air-defence and electronic-warfare capacity means that any Ukrainian attack requires meticulous planning. Ukraine has developed algorithms that appear to work. Operators launch in the early morning (when defenders’ concentration might be lapsing) and use an order of attack designed to keep air defences busy. They gather intelligence (often from Western partners) about radars, electronic warfare and air-defence assets.

Those are diversion attacks, not stuff that will decide the war.

The strategic advantage is clearly on the Russian side:

Field Marshal Helmuth von Moltke the Elder, the military architect of German unification and one of history’s most famed soldiers, would instantly grasp the state of affairs in this summer of Ukrainian discontent. After Kiev and its Western backers hyped the prospects for the spring counteroffensive against Russia, the counteroffensive has posted fitful progress to date. Moltke would ascribe the disappointing results to the fact that the Ukrainian military confronts a foe waging the strongest form of warfare.

Strategic offense coupled with tactical defense. 

Moltke lays out the logic succinctly: “The tactical defense is the stronger [form of war], the strategic offensive the more effective form—and the only one that leads to the goal.” In other words, the contender that seizes or occupies some object or parcel of territory, then defends it tactically, primes itself for strategic and ultimately political success. In colloquial terms: grab something and hold it, and dare your enemy to come and take it back while fighting at a daunting disadvantage. For the German sage, in short, waging offense through defense blazes a path to triumph.

Advantage: Russia.

Tactical defense is what Russia has been doing over the last months. It has ground down the attacking Ukrainian forces by all means  available to it. When they are done with it the Russian forces will launch their strategic offensive campaign. They are then likely to rapidly progress through thinned out Ukrainian lines.

No illegal rocket-launched cluster munitions, no F-16, no terror attack on Russia, can prevent that.

The Ukrainians are simply fighting the wrong war, for the wrong cause:

Ivan Katchanovski @I_Katchanovski – 14:49 UTC · Aug 27, 2023

Commander in Chief of Ukrainian Forces & popular Ukrainian writer pose with red & black flag & popular Ukrainian newspaper propagates this. This was flag of far-right OUN & UPA which collaborated with Nazi Germany & was involved in mass murder of Jews, Poles & Ukrainians. This flag was used by far-right Right Sector. Mainstreaming & whitewashing of OUN & UPA symbols, such as their flag & their "Glory to Ukraine & Glory to the Heroes" greeting, continues. https://life.pravda.com.ua/culture/2023/08/27/256152/


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That flag, and the mindset behind it, is why Russia will not allow the Ukraine, and the U.S., to win.

Comments

> wow a 71 year old combat pilot, mind boggling.
> Posted by: pretzelattack
Why surprised? Just think John McCain 🙂
But I admit, I did not fact-check, so could mix unrelated news.

Posted by: Arioch | Aug 28 2023 19:30 utc | 101

Thank you b.
This is all sad.
Brothers led to fight each other by masters of manipulasjon.
This helps against dehumanisation.
“>https://open.spotify.com/track/0MBYW7CcBJmsY3HTP05VQg?si=QgIXDJF1RzO7V7WSRFqF5w»>

Posted by: Peacenik | Aug 28 2023 19:31 utc | 102

Posted by: WJ | Aug 28 2023 17:40 utc | 71
I think the most do net get Prigozhin and his part in the game. (we all 99% – I too).
I think a good start is to go to colonelcassad livejournal com and there use the Prigogine tag.
( not need to read – but can read it )
the result in 2022 will be
11.01.2022 Problems with Schenderowitsch
15.08.2022 Ukraine say the kille him …
20.08.2022 Prigo is very unhappy with the mobilization
25.09.2022 About the 3 Stars
– not many have 3 Stars at this time
– I guess, at this time, 5 – 10 people on this world have 3 Stars
and after this start the big Prigo Show.
1 or 2 articel/posts evry day.

you can see, since the war start, he have been a starplayer, but 6-7 months a silent starplayer.

If you now think and ask yourself why Prigozhin change from silent to laut you sure get other answers. Now he change back from laut to silent. ( I don’t believe in his death yet. I am watching the actions in Africa and than see )
here some question more:
* Why didn’t Putin nothing say, for months, as the boss of the largest mercenary army have a public dispute with the Minister of Defense
* how solve Ukraine 2014 and Azerbiadjan 2020 the same mobilization problems ( not 100% same)
some more interesting days at Colonelcasad
13.08.2019 Zentralafikanische Republick
10.11.2018 Syria East Homs

Posted by: theo | Aug 28 2023 19:34 utc | 103

I read somewhere today that Russia has asked Syria to tell Wagner to leave the country…..psyop, or the story has legs?
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Aug 28 2023 19:37 utc | 104

Posted by: Cyril | Aug 28 2023 19:13 utc | 94
If Bloomberg is accepted as citation:
Why the US and Europe Still Buy Russian Nuclear Fuel
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-08-28/china-markets-rally-as-authorities-take-steps-to-lift-sentiment-llubolgt
The Manhattan Project to Wean the World Off Russian Uranium
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2023-08-22/us-europe-switch-russian-nuclear-fuel-for-new-mexico-uranium

Posted by: Udkanten | Aug 28 2023 19:38 utc | 105

Two articles in PolitNavigator discusses the Ukrainian losses:
Every day, the Ukrainian Armed Forces lose about a thousand soldiers wounded and killed, and in two and a half months the losses of the Ukrainian army reach sixty thousand people.
Oleg Soskin, a former adviser to the President of Ukraine Leonid Kuchma, an economist and political scientist, said this on the air of his video blog, the correspondent of PolitNavigator reports.
Secodn Article
Ukraine will need tens of thousands of new soldiers to launch an attack on Crimea. This was stated by former Deputy Secretary of the Security Council of Ukraine Serhiy Kryvonos on the air of the TV channel “Direct”, the correspondent of “PolitNavigator”reports.In addition, in his opinion, at least 10-15 thousand is the amount that needs to be mobilized every month to cover losses in the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Posted by: On the roof | Aug 28 2023 19:39 utc | 106

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Aug 28 2023 18:26 utc | 83
Feral Finster is a troll, probably an AI bot. He/it crawls a number of blogs related to 404 and otherwise. He/it’s good at what it does. I would guess a USG agency training up AI bots on their bot farms to be more and more indistinguishable from humans.
But they are always distinguishable, cannot be made indistinguishable, because AI “comments” are two-dimensional. There’s no heart in them.

Posted by: The Rev. David R. Gr | Aug 28 2023 19:40 utc | 107

LoveDonbass@97……the US never sanctioned Russia, the EU did that. Sanction are announced from Brussels not Washington, in the US Mammon is the God of the day. They are smarter than you think……and if you are not aware, Russian gas and oil flow to the US through intermediaries, it get’s repackaged, rebranded, marked way up, then sold the the EU. It’s a racket.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Aug 28 2023 19:45 utc | 108

Re: Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Aug 28 2023 18:26 utc | 83
Wow… perfect (jaw hanging open and beer raised)
Perfect. Cheers 🍻

Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 28 2023 19:52 utc | 109

LoveDonbass @ 100

Let’s all be happy that Russia hasn’t delivered Uranium to America via hypersonic delivery. Yet.

I’m sure if it happens the last articles from the idiot MSM will be about the upside of those dumb Russians sending the west uranium for free.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 28 2023 19:52 utc | 110

I agree with the comment above {Milites?} in that Milley is playing word games. The UAF has taken two months to pass through the out post line or crumple zone, in two small areas, and now find themselves at best in a fire sack in front of the first main line of defence – that is intact – which is more can be said of the UAF 9th and 10th Corps.
Mud should not stop the fighting, particularly in urban areas, but it will become even more positional in nature. It is likely to be inconclusive in terms of ground gained but possibly very significant in terms of the continued attrition of men and equipment – and the advantage will be with Russia who have the guns, the shells, the missiles and the air force – not to mention now a large preponderance in drones and much improved fire control and ISR links.

Posted by: marcjf | Aug 28 2023 19:57 utc | 111

Posted by: Rob Campbell | Aug 28 2023 18:42 utc | 87
My post in response to you said ‘At the start of the SMO, after the initial failed coup-de-main, I thought the conflict had a similar dynamic to ‘44-‘45, now it’s definitely ‘45.’
Then I read this!!
‘A while ago there was a rumor that the Ukrainian military had started using Air Force cadets & ground crews to bolster frontline infantry units, or even to form new infantry units; now we’re getting obituaries from the Flight Academy about cadets dying in infantry combat’.
Thanks : Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Aug 28 2023 18:57 utc | 90
It will be naval units as well , if they’re following the Nazi playbook. In response to your later post, I steer away from direct historical comparisons, preferring to use them as more of a holistically guide as to what options might be being considered by either side, as my ‘45 comment shows.

Posted by: Milites | Aug 28 2023 19:58 utc | 112

The Rev. David R. Gr @ 107

But they are always distinguishable, cannot be made indistinguishable, because AI “comments” are two-dimensional. There’s no heart in them.

Not much heart or creativity in the musings of most humans, even less memory, the AI will blend right into the crowd, won’t even have to run to keep up.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 28 2023 20:00 utc | 113

“…not a step back, Russia”. The Judeo-Zionists will not stop it, if they do, they will lose the power of their printed, counterfeit, Himalaia mountain-size piles of reserves, the tool with which they have enslaved the Western World. My suggestion to my buddy, beloved, President Putin: Send a straight-open Ultimatum to the Jewish-occupied USA. “GET THE HELL OUT OF OUR FRONTIERS, IF NOT, WE WILL TAKE CARE OF ALL THE OTAN FORCES STATIONED THERE. AND YOU, BIDEN, AND YOU MILLEY, YOU KNOW QUITE WELL, WE HOLD THE STRATEGIC ADVANTAGE TO FIRST STRIKE YOUR HOMELAND IN THE EVENT YOU DO NOT FULFILL OUR UKAZE”. Just do it, dear Vladimir, if you want to save humanity like performed by your great Uncle, Joseph Vissarionovitch Djouyatchvilli Stalin.

Posted by: hamparsoum agop tor | Aug 28 2023 20:04 utc | 114

Dr. George W Oprisko @ 90

A while ago there was a rumor that the Ukrainian military had started using Air Force cadets & ground crews to bolster frontline infantry units

Milites @ 112

I steer away from direct historical comparisons, preferring to use them as more of a holistically guide as to what options might be being considered by either side, as my ‘45 comment shows.

I steer away from stuff that denigrates the enemy, from whatever side, it is assuredly psyops.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 28 2023 20:04 utc | 115

Re: “I read on realcleardefence that Russia is using horses”
Posted by: Guy L’Estrange | Aug 28 2023 18:38 utc | 84
Yes, hopefully pulling carts with canons and muskets behind them, otherwise, they’d have nothing. Lol
Cheers ….

Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 28 2023 20:04 utc | 116

LightYearsFromHome | Aug 28 2023 19:22 utc | 96
report of columns of equipment moving north, was actually to secretly move a large contingent of Wagner to Niger and Mali. Maybe when the French and ECOWAS get there they’ll be in for a rough surprise? A Russian quagmire trap?
OK, it would be next to impossible to do without western intelligence finding out about it, maybe it’s just revolutionary spirit but Niger and Mali seem pretty relaxed for poor very much under armed countries about to get stomped.”

Mali at least, has a shown a (smallish) group of “special forces” parading in new Chinese equipment, and Wagner have been reported in Niger as part of the “new” Presidential guard.
They might not want the US or France to start meddling with the BRI.

Posted by: Stonebird | Aug 28 2023 20:14 utc | 117

marcjf @ 111

I agree with the comment above {Milites?} in that Milley is playing word games.

It’s a sad thing to watch, western generals should take a cue from Russian generals and let the politicians do the talking, western politicians should take a cue from Russian politicians and talk only when they have something intelligent to say. On the other hand the “Orix & Crake” cartoon decadence the west has fallen into is certainly entertaining. The apocalypse will be goofy.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 28 2023 20:15 utc | 118

b…another aviation depot hit
MOSCOW (Sputnik) – Russian ships with cruise missiles attacked a depot of aviation weapons and ammunition of the Ukrainian armed forces, the target was destroyed, the Russian Defense Ministry stated on Monday.
German instructors frustrated ttying to teach ukr pilots Nato F16 methods yet the pilots were trained in russian methods and cannot adjust and refute they think they know better….German opposition politician pressures for Taurus cruise missile to be sent…..
someone was asking how many tanks ukr has lost…article 30 July23 sputnik delves into the numbers they had themselves and were supplied and lost…..and maybe to replace the lost stormshadow back on 11 July Macron said they were sending long range misdiles for the counteroffensive. US says it has not enough of these.

Posted by: Jo | Aug 28 2023 20:16 utc | 119

So the obvious Russian play here is to provide Hezbollah and Iranian militias in Iraq with missiles that can reach Washington and to give them targeting data allowing them to hit the Pentagon.

Posted by: William Verick | Aug 28 2023 20:18 utc | 120

Zelensky states he yearns for old Donbas days of arbitrary, random killings of civilians in Donbas… he wants to be “like Israel” … and have a low density ongoing war…
He doesn’t like wearing big boy pants any more…he wants to be the EU Israel…
https://tass.com/world/1665995
(Note: between this and the other article I posted regard Zelensky stating “he doesn’t want to be alone” in his terror attacks against Russia… this day… I think his marbles are slipping & he’s cracking)

Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 28 2023 20:34 utc | 121

Interesting comment about the storm shadow missles lacking. Its hard to say for sure as there’s explosions behind the lines all the time.
On the other hand there’s been really, really big explosions in ukrainian cities, so big everyone sees it and has to be acknowledged, noticeable to hundreds of thousands anyways
So let’s check western news sources they can reveal patterns.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/08/17/ukraine-russia-war-latest-reni-danube-port-drone-attack/
Russia targeting British Storm Shadow missiles
18 August 2023 • 7:28am
https://www.ft.com/content/e6406478-5b30-4178-b118-4790797d8446
Two weeks ago
Military briefing: Russia hunts Ukraine’s western missile stocks
And before that some rah rah we sent missle articles. Strongly indicative of a problem with the storm shadow missles, possibly destroyed.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Aug 28 2023 20:36 utc | 122

What will the Ukrainians think when this war is over? Was it all worthwhile?
@kerdasi amaq | Aug 28 2023 18:50 utc | 88

It’s important to distinguish between the Ukrainian government and the Ukrainian people. I think most of the latter never thought this was a good idea. I briefly talked with the one Ukrainian I know in 2017, and she was quite distraught about what was happening there. Don’t recall the details, but like any real person, I’m sure she wants peace and not war. That’s about it.
My mother (born in 1935) was a German refugee displaced repeatedly during WWII. My wife’s mother’s story was similar. What did they think? They were both physically unharmed but quite traumatized by it. That’s about it.
Only a fool would think of war as “worth it”.

Posted by: Boris Badenov | Aug 28 2023 20:37 utc | 123

@Sundance | Aug 28 2023 15:49 utc | 35
Russia is still selling Uranium to the USA
Citation? I think the US is more likely to buy Uranium from Kazakhstan, which supplies over 40% of the world market for the stuff.
Posted by: Cyril | Aug 28 2023 19:13 utc | 94

147 tons…. I saw the citation myself…
All U235… for power plants….
I’d not supply this….
But I am not RosAtom….
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Aug 28 2023 20:45 utc | 124

Trubind1 @ 122

Zelensky stating “he doesn’t want to be alone” in his terror attacks against Russia… this day… I think his marbles are slipping & he’s cracking

Zelensky was born a Russian speaker in east Ukraine, he cracked a long time ago, either that or the Role Of A Lifetime has turned into a Twilight Zone episode, the lifetime role has become a lingering death and death will be the only way out. When the history is written that might just prove to be the story.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 28 2023 20:46 utc | 125

Dr. George W Oprisko @ 125

I’d not supply this…. But I am not RosAtom….

The Russians are real stickler for contracts, at least that’s their excuse. I’m not sure what happens if you stop the spice from flowing but no one ever dares. Saddam tried, and managed, to blow up all the oil wells there, in a couple of months they were all up and running again. Maybe it’s as simple as that, there’s no way to win stopping the energy flow, so better take what you have and don’t bother trying.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 28 2023 20:51 utc | 126

Fun fun fun read from Strategic Culture
https://strategic-culture.su/news/2023/08/28/a-second-geo-strategic-shoe-other-than-ukraine-is-dropping/
This caught my eye (and humor)
“The proxy war on Russia nevertheless was launched through Ukraine, precisely to reaffirm western global vigour. It is doing the opposite.”
IMHO – think playground bully, who when revealed as being nothing but a big gas bag with not punch, will never again threaten …
Another Alastaire Crooke gem

Posted by: ms idaho | Aug 28 2023 20:52 utc | 127

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Aug 28 2023 20:45 utc | 125
The thing with todays trade is: as long as global south doesn’t cut off the West as a bloc of resources, the alternative of staying in the market wins every time. It’s just how the world works and money flows.
What’s really happened is US has/will soon cut off EU controlled Europe of trade from the global south. It has happened in energy, it’s easy to assume it will happen in pretty much everything, eventually. US itself circumvents the “western sanctions” left, right and center.

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 28 2023 20:55 utc | 128

@ ms idaho | Aug 28 2023 20:52 utc | 128
bemildred posted it on the open ukraine thread much earlier today.. i agree – its a good article…

Posted by: james | Aug 28 2023 20:57 utc | 129

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 28 2023 20:04 utc | 116
If you think of the reasons why a war was lost or won, as weights that tip the balance, encouraging their troops to regard the Russians as sub-humans, will have placed a not inconsiderable lump of metal in the pan marked lose.
Or to paraphrase the movie ‘Aliens’, ‘how can they cut off our supplies with hypersonic missiles man? They’re just orcs!’

Posted by: Milites | Aug 28 2023 21:02 utc | 130

“I stole this video yesterday from someone?
And I stole it from you, thank you
I have seen many videos over the years and wish I had saved them at the time. They are not available on main stream any more obviously. I vividly remember the video of the women being interviewed after witnessing MH17 and having seen the jet fighters earlier in the day flying over Yulivka towards Donetsk, I know that the airliner was not hit with a BUK.

Posted by: Bluedog57 | Aug 28 2023 21:12 utc | 131

70 and others… Russia has some fast moving huge hovercraft that can carry 3 tanks …hundreds soldiers.. now imagine a fleet of the coming up the Dnieper protected by a fleet of Alligator helicopters plus airsupport….up to Kiev or maybe to the port of Odessa??
Go check them out.

Posted by: Jo | Aug 28 2023 21:15 utc | 132

This gives Russia a perfect opportunity to use cluster munitions, anti personnel mines and incendiary bombs on Ukie army.
There’s no way Ukie army can hide from these or evacuate its injured in time because no helicopters to transport the injured. Ukie army is digging its own shallow grave.

Posted by: Jason | Aug 28 2023 21:19 utc | 133

Military summary:
-AFU needs to clear areas and fields west and east of their bridgehead including Robotyne and Verbove to advance – they might not have time or are struggling to do it
-AFU counter artillery or drone usage is very low in Urozhaine, RU has dominance and preventing AFU buildups especially around Urozhaine
-AFU has reactivated north-west of Artemovsk and managed to almost take a forest
-AFU uses a lot of drones around the RU bridgehead of Raihorodka (between Lyman and Kupyansk)
-RU has superiority of everything around Kupyansk which they are gradually squeezing

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 28 2023 21:37 utc | 134

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 28 2023 20:46 utc | 126
Yes, they’d have difficulty in the future Biography section choosing between him & Hunter Biden. They’re lives and endings are becoming similar by the day.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 28 2023 21:38 utc | 135

Posted by: james | Aug 28 2023 15:04 utc | 22
Not sure how this can be done by now. One needs to know the communication protocol between Russia and NATO. Though even this fact shows the true nature of the conflict: NATO is the actual enemy and Ukraine is one more proxy.
Obviously, the most direct way of expressing Russia’s ire would be the destruction of the Norwegian pipeline. There are ways it can be done – such as a naval exercise – and it would not involve lethal attacks on citizens/troops of western countries. But even that might be insufficient.
I guess what can follow is a massive missile attack on installations in NATO countries that contain supplies for the Maidanist regime (Rzeszow airport and vicinity come to mind). Again, such an act might appear too brazen, but at this point there just doesn’t appear to be any other way to put the fear of God, so to speak, on the Anglo-American imperialists and their minions.
Now, I expect that some posters will start singing the une of Russia being wise and the adult in the room and other cheap slogans, but the reality is that this supposedly sober appraoch costs dearly on the country both in material and expecially human terms. And that is where I have a problem with people who casually spout nonsense without bearing the grim consequences of a real war, the keyboard warriors who play tough while actual warriors get maimed or killed. And that is without mentioning the long list of civilian victims.
See it’s easy to downplay the extensive use of drones on Russian settlements, but what about the effect they have on the troops that fight the war. Because you can be sure this is going on nonstop. Ditto for various new armaments brought in Ukraine. One can claim “yeah, well, these won’t change the final result”, but how can one measure the latter when the human toll is so extensive? And no, the decimation of the Ukrainians isn’t a satisfying substitute.
That is the real issue here. It is the Russian people who have undertaken the burden of ridding the world of the globalist pestilence and bear the human cost, so it should be eased to the greatest possible extent. Sure, there should be prime attention to the avoidance of a nuclear conflict, but not at the cost of bleeding the Russians, while all sorts of complacent citizens or downright parasites in the NATOist countries – not to mention the Russian neoliberal elites – can skate it.

Posted by: Constantine | Aug 28 2023 21:47 utc | 136

Re: “On the other hand the “Orix & Crake” cartoon decadence the west has fallen into is certainly entertaining. The apocalypse will be goofy.”
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 28 2023 20:15 utc | 119
Great comic relief, the “goofy” apocalypse conjured images, broke the “serious” spell. Thx!

Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 28 2023 21:50 utc | 137

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Aug 28 2023 18:26 utc | 83
«I’m sort of like shadowbanned but in reverse, pointing out the utter idiocy, cowardice and incompetence of Western leadership, their impending economic bankruptcy and the intellectual bankruptcy of their political establishment and their military institutions.»
Putin disagrees with you, he has explicitly said that the enemies of the RF are mighty and huge.
As to the the performance of the USA Empire, count the number of color revolutions, regime changes, military invasions, bases and biolabs in foreign vassal countries, they have done just since 1991 (a significant majority of them successful) or even just how many vassal votes they have “persuaded” at the UN, and compare with how many have been done by the RF and PRC. The USA Empire may be a bully, but still a successful bully.
That will only end when, like previous empires, e.g. the spanish, dutch, portuguese. english empires, they can no longer extract enough profit from it to keep it under their thumb; and even before that it will last a long time just on incumbency.

Posted by: Blissex | Aug 28 2023 21:51 utc | 138

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Aug 28 2023 15:16 utc | 24
I hope you do not include me on the group of people who casually suggest the use of nuclear weapons. My argument is that the supposedly sober approach of the Russian authorities on the subject of escalation on NATO’s part has emboldened the latter and increased the cost for the Russian people.
It is bad enough to witness neo-NAzi scum at the service of the Anglo-American empire recive such public support by goernments and people alike in the west, but it is downright unacceptable to arm them with extensive amounts of very lethal assets with impunity.
The whole thing smacks of an effort to secure victory with the attendant cost born by the hoi polloi of the RF and not the elites. God forbid if there is a potential for a more serious conflict that would require the latter to be meaningfully affected by a mobilization of national resources.

Posted by: Constantine | Aug 28 2023 21:55 utc | 139

@ Constantine | Aug 28 2023 21:47 utc | 137
thanks.. i largely agree with you.. its a dilemma for russia.. it is a radical recipe you advocate for.. basically it is punching the bully in the face… what would the consequences of blowing up the norwegian pipeline be? hard to know…denial is the approach of nato on the nordstream destruction.. could russia deny as well? possible, but they would probably prove it was russia – even if it wasn’t!! nato and friends have proven this time and time again – mh 17 – perfect example..
hitting the base in poland has also been run up the flag pole numerous times.. it might seem that then nato would go all in.. hard to know if they would… it is basically playing a game of chicken and seeing who blinks first.. i admit nato and friends have no interest in ramping down the war here.. clearly they are intent on continuing to ramp up!
the drones into russia’s space is intolerable, and yet russia tries to take the high road.. so, i hear where you are coming from, but i am not sure this is the best way forward that you advocate…
what about the idea russia is slowly wearing nato and friends down here? that is what i continue to hang onto here.. i could be wrong and we haven’t seen just how crazy this can get.. i mean.. it could get crazy real fast and it seems to me russia is intentionally going slow here for what might be very reasonable reasons! however, the whole situation is not reasonable, so i will give you that! thanks for your response.. i am sure it will generate some feedback..

Posted by: james | Aug 28 2023 21:58 utc | 140

Senior Ukrainian intelligence officer commits suicide
“A senior officer with Ukraine’s SBU has been found dead, reportedly accusing his superiors of “mistreatment” in a suicide note”
RT article
https://www.rt.com/russia/581997-ukraine-intelligence-officer-suicide/
FYI

Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 28 2023 21:59 utc | 141

Posted by: Constantine | Aug 28 2023 21:47 utc | 137
There should be plausible deniability strikes on infrastructure in the west, preferably on infrastructure that are dual-use supportive of the Nato war in Ukraine.
We are already far past the point where they could even take out Zelensky and the entire entourage, which would cause mean and angry words on MSM but nothing else would happen (if we forget that Zelensky is irrelevant etc.). However, Putin won’t touch Zelensky simply because it would be a tit-for-tat vis-a-vis Nato.
There are then other alternatives. The French are just about to embark on a military campaign in the Sahel. It should be made sure that the EU/Nato sponsored campaign will be very bloody for EU.
Start giving Syrian, Lebanese, Iraqese opposition forces and groups weapons that can really cause massive damage to UK and US forces and bases. Plausible deniability. Shoot down their planes, hit their base. And say the group was the Freedom of ansar-Allah, or equivalent, rising against oppressionistive regimes, like the UK.
Ukraine/Nato opened the pandora’s box re. cargo and tanker vessels. There could be plausible deniability strikes on LNG and oil vessels heading to UK or US.
Launch long range drone strikes on some UK or US assets somewhere in a way they don’t know what hit them or where they came from.
There is little cost other than development of BRICS (which is indirect cost) to the Waste.

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 28 2023 22:01 utc | 142

Stonebird @ 118

Mali at least, has a shown a (smallish) group of “special forces” parading in new Chinese equipment, and Wagner have been reported in Niger as part of the “new” Presidential guard.

What I was thinking is that maybe within that “smallish” is hidden a “biggish”. Not sure it’s possible to do, but we will find out soon enough.
ms idaho @ 128

IMHO – think playground bully, who when revealed as being nothing but a big gas bag with not punch, will never again threaten …

More likely infuriated teen that comes back to school with an assault rifle for a mass shooting. That’s why Russia, China and RoW are going slow.
Jo @ 133

70 and others… Russia has some fast moving huge hovercraft that can carry 3 tanks …hundreds soldiers.. now imagine a fleet of the coming up the Dnieper protected by a fleet of Alligator helicopters plus airsupport….up to Kiev or maybe to the port of Odessa??

I think the noise alone would make Ukraine surrender.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 28 2023 22:03 utc | 143

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 28 2023 21:37 utc | 135
That’s the problem with cluster munitions, all the dud bomblets need to be cleared away from the field fortifications, roads and buildings (ruins) you’ve targeted, before you can safely occupy them.
Anything other than the Robotyne axis is probably a fixing attack to prevent Russia transferring troops south. Forests are horrible things to be in when being shelled, concealment yes, cover, no and a habit of producing organic shrapnel!
Ukrainian drones seem to be used now as a substitute for numerous weapons, which in itself suggests availability/logistical problems.
Posted by: Jo | Aug 28 2023 21:15 utc | 133
Gone are the days of those types of assaults, along with a tank regiment attacking line abreast, supported by lines of guns and a regiment of Mi-24’s. ACV’s look good but they’re un-armoured, and burn easily. LCAC’s might be able to blockade Odessa with all the wrecks though, but what a waste.
Urozhaine might be a good place for a small counter attack, probe, just to see what they have left.

Posted by: Milites | Aug 28 2023 22:05 utc | 144

” So the obvious Russian play here is to provide Hezbollah and Iranian militias in Iraq with missiles that can reach Washington and to give them targeting data allowing them to hit the Pentagon.
Posted by: William Verick | Aug 28 2023 20:18 utc | 121 ”
A better play would be to warn a certain ME ” nation ” to call off its attack dog, a certain NA nation, or else those missiles will be provided to the folks you mentioned. The war in Ukraine would be over in a couple hours if that threat was made.

Posted by: Shocked | Aug 28 2023 22:07 utc | 145

120 – I would have thought even language would be a problem – it is unlikely they are being instructed in Ukrainian or Russian, so it would have to be training conducted in English, the international NATO language, or in German. But if they don’t know it, and quite well, already, they will have to be taught it, and that might add many months to the training process.
It reminds me of a small vignette on British TV in 1982 during the Israeli invasion of Lebanon. A Syrian jet had been shot down, the pilot wasn’t found, but a jet manual in Russian was found, some way from the jet, on a small path in the Lebanese countryside. It looked like it had been discarded. Did the pilot eject and carry the manual with him, discover it was all in Russian and he couldn’t read it, at least not well, and throw it away? It might underline the language problems in training people to use warplanes if the instructors are foreign.

Posted by: Waldorf | Aug 28 2023 22:13 utc | 146

Posted by: james | Aug 28 2023 21:58 utc | 141
I agree with most of what you posted. Indeed, no easy options are available for Russia, but it would be more prudent to communicate the determination to act decisively against NATO intervention early on. Things are far more serious now and unlike some, I do not see any chance of the Anglo-Americans backing down. As for as the empire goes, this conflict is of paramount importance to them. And to use their own argument in reverse, it is absolutely imperative that the NATO project in Ukraine fails utterly.
Obviously, the effort to avoid escalation to an all-out, direct conflict should be maintained, but not at the cost of constant losses for the Russians. And I cannot accept the mentality of those who are willing to fight to the last drop of other people’s blood. Which is pretty much the entire philosophy of the neocons.
But I do not see any real boons from Russia’s restraint. Far too many Africans are still afraid or compromised to confront the very colonialists who plunder them to this day, while the Latin Americans (all leftists) who back Russia would have done so no matter what, as the globalist empire is going for their jugular.
As a final sad note, both India and Pakistan tend to be lukewarm towards Russia and unwilling or compromised to take a stand against the Anglo-American empire. It’s odd that these to generally hostile to each other countries are united in their inability to openly confront the globalist hegemons.

Posted by: Constantine | Aug 28 2023 22:13 utc | 147

pretzelattack | Aug 28 2023 19:13 utc | 92
*** wow a 71 year old combat pilot, mind boggling.***
Biggles Biden

Posted by: Cynic | Aug 28 2023 22:14 utc | 148

Today’s MSM headline — another little lie/fantasy for Arch’s long list:
“AFU forces have broken through the first line of Russian defence at Robotyne [not true, just a buffer-line] and, from here on, progress towards Crimea will be easier and quicker”.
LMAO LMAO LMAO. Noooo, it will be HARDER and SLOWER, if in fact RF doesn’t flank them in return and retake the Robotyne firebag that RF intentionally created.
OMG, such self-delusion and lies.

Posted by: SCCC | Aug 28 2023 22:16 utc | 149

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Also, isn’t Red and black the colour scheme of Biden’s mid-term elections launched?
Posted by: Giyane | Aug 28 2023 13:14 utc | 6
The red and black flag represents “blood and soil”, respectively, if anyone’s curious about its symbolic origins.
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Posted by: agent00F | Aug 28 2023 14:14 utc | 10
What are we to make of the colouring at this ceremony, footage of which someone at MOA posted the other day?
http://kremlin.ru/events/president/news/72094

Posted by: Ново З | Aug 28 2023 22:18 utc | 150

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 28 2023 22:01 utc | 143
Bleeding the bastards in Africa is something that both Russia and China should promote. If the neo-colonialist scum are bitching about Russia undermining their sublime “rules-based order”, then Moscow should live up to said expectations. Africns would appreciate it, especially with the appropriate messaging.
Let the neoliberal fascist vermin taste their own poison. Good will is treated as a weakness by them as abundant articles, public statements and actual policy decisions by neocon ideologues have proved.

Posted by: Constantine | Aug 28 2023 22:21 utc | 151

Posted by: Ново З | Aug 28 2023 22:18 utc | 151
The red colour is that of the Soviet flag. Red Banner, Red Army etc. What was the point of your question?

Posted by: Constantine | Aug 28 2023 22:24 utc | 152

@ Constantine | Aug 28 2023 22:13 utc | 148
thanks.. i think i like unimperators recipe better.. see @ unimperator | Aug 28 2023 22:01 utc | 143
india and pakistan – pakistan is mostly usa controlled.. imran khan tries to get off this merry go round and is sidelined or worse.. india is playing poker and don’t want to lose their present position – a wee bit like turkey playing the 2 sides against one another… as for the other parts of the world – i am sure many can see how this is being played out, but they are unwilling to commit for obvious reasons..

Posted by: james | Aug 28 2023 22:24 utc | 153

Out of the mouth of babies…
The apprentice explained to us at break how Evil Putin wanted to take back all the countries who had chosen Nato and the West.
If Vladimir Putin had fulfilled this caricature painted by Hollywood, instead if painstakingly destroying Nazis, hexwould have swallowed the bait hook line and sinker.
Kaida shaytana dha’eefa / the devil’s plan is weak.

Posted by: Giyane | Aug 28 2023 22:28 utc | 154

@ Ново З | Aug 28 2023 22:18 utc | 151
irrelevant.. hey, i am wearing a red and black shirt… what does it mean? lol..

Posted by: james | Aug 28 2023 22:28 utc | 155

Re:” The whole thing smacks of an effort to secure victory with the attendant cost born by the hoi polloi of the RF and not the elites. God forbid if there is a potential for a more serious conflict that would require the latter to be meaningfully affected by a mobilization of national resources.”
Posted by: Constantine | Aug 28 2023 21:55 utc | 140
They has never been a war fought, ancient or modern, that the “hoi polloi” didn’t “bare the “costs”. Where the “elites” weren’t the “protected class” (if it’s simpler, think “Titanic”)
And btw, Russia isn’t “special”… ALL nations have their “oligarchs” “elites” “upper class”, and Russia has considerably fewer than the “combined West” for now, as Russia has exported many of them.
Your “concern” sounds like:
Heaven forbid a Solar Flare should destroy most of humanity but only the “elite” survive”.
It’s twisted. Get over your “class hate” it’s not healthy.
Nor does it address any military on the ground realities. Shoigu isn’t calling up a Duma oligarch daily, asking for his daily military instructions.
And Putin has an economic, political & military mission that must work in lockstep whether you like the “pace” or the “offense” .
Just things for you to consider. Especially generalized class hate.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 28 2023 22:34 utc | 156

Posted by: james | Aug 28 2023 22:24 utc | 154
I agree with the “plausible deniability” approach too. But it should be exercised with the intent of achieving results and sending the message before things reach the point of attacking the imperial homeland.
As for Imran Khan, this is the case of what I deem to be the failure of Russian PR. Some months after the coup, he gave an interview, where he, a victim of US subversion for his moderately friendly to Russia stance, could not espouse the explanation of NATO’s culpability for the war. He simply maintained that he defended Pakistani interests without making the case for the origins of the conflict or the hideous hypocrisy of the globalist butchers pretending to champion international peace and stability.

Posted by: Constantine | Aug 28 2023 22:38 utc | 157

Constantine @ 152

Bleeding the bastards in Africa is something that both Russia and China should promote.

War in central Africa just adds more suffering to a land over run by it, sure it’s liberation struggle, and seemingly genuine, but even there like throughout the cold war the struggle has to be fought as a pawn in a bigger great power struggle. What’s the African proverb? When the elephants fight the grass gets trampled. It would be better to trample the grass in Europe but it’s easier and safer for Russia and China to stir the shit up in Africa. It’s hard to cheer for what I think is about to hit the place.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 28 2023 22:42 utc | 158

I dont like the sound of this at all.
” BRICS will coordinate its approaches with the new members within international formats, including the United Nations and the Group of Twenty, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said on Sunday.
“Naturally, we will coordinate our approaches with the new members within the United Nations, the Group of Twenty and other international platforms,” he said in an interview with the Moscow.Kremlin.Putin program on the Rossiya-1 television channel. ”
https://tass.com/politics/1665961

Posted by: Shocked | Aug 28 2023 22:45 utc | 159

Posted by: RobRob | Aug 28 2023 15:28 utc | 27
Dear Rob, It’s the wrong tense. Australia is already ‘fully fascist/woke’ or whatever, and yes the sheep will comply
Andrew

Posted by: Andrew S MacGregor | Aug 28 2023 22:49 utc | 160

Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 28 2023 22:34 utc | 157
Yeah, talk to me of “class hate”. People who struggle daily send their children to war only to see in the internet a shit ton of videos form Dubai by those who feasted royally on the flesh of a country they do not intend to defend. And your defense of this sordid state of affairs is that “it always happened”.
Again, you do not seem to understand how people feel when they see their soldiers butchered by Ukro-Nazi scum, while some obscenely wealthy liberal cunt, after leaving the country early in the war and finding things not to her liking, returned as if nothing happened in her fancy Rolls-Royce. You bet your sorry ass this gives NKVD vibes to some people.
In short, patriotism is not a cheap slogan to bamboozle the teeming masses of a country – any country – into sacrifices for the defence of the nation, while the chosen few can party really hard to emphasize their superior status. So yeah, it is the duty of a patriotic government to make it abundantly clear that all must contribute to a national struggle. THose who don’t must be treated accordingly, especially when the enemy is immensely powerful and vomits genocidal racist hatred of one’s own nationals.
So yes, it would be appreciated if critical industries and commodities were nationalized and placed at the disposal of the multi-national community of Russia, instead of watching disgusting Yeltsinite parasites like Potanin making good profits from western businesses leaving the country or from the war effort itself.

Posted by: Constantine | Aug 28 2023 22:53 utc | 161

@ Ново З | Aug 28 2023 22:18 utc | 151
irrelevant.. hey, i am wearing a red and black shirt… what does it mean? lol..
Posted by: james | Aug 28 2023 22:28 utc | 156
It is relevant what colouring is chosen at state events.
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a red and black shirt … what does it mean.?
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newshub.co.nz%2Fhome%2Fnew-zealand%2F2015%2F11%2Fmongrel-mob-celebrations-without-incident%2F_jcr_content%2Fpar%2Fimage.dynimg.1280.q75.jpg%2Fv1%2Fmongrel-mob-gangs-1200.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=4473984cc0e8a30cffd60797b25725546225b20c65a459b84aa1a7eebd8699c8&ipo=images
lol..

Posted by: Ново З | Aug 28 2023 22:56 utc | 162

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 28 2023 22:42 utc | 159
No one suggested that the opponents of the Anglo-American empire should use the Africans as proxies. They are already plundered by the usual suspects who also engage in multiple forms of malfeasance. Like the infamous jihadist groups that distabilize entire countries and the western powers show up to help for a price obviously. Magically, said jihadists never seem to be eradicated.
In short, the Africans should receive the necessary technical and political support to confront the same powers that houd Russia, China and everyone else attempting to prosper without groveling before the west.

Posted by: Constantine | Aug 28 2023 23:00 utc | 163

@Trubindi1 (57) “ Mud yes, agree. But Russia has always done very well militarily over ice and snow. There are many advantages for them , particularly when it comes to forested areas.”
If you recall last winter, the temperatures never got cold enough for the ground to freeze hard. Judging from recent weather trends, the same may happen again this coming winter—and the next one, and the next one…

Posted by: Rob | Aug 28 2023 23:04 utc | 164

Note the comment that Ukraine has used 2M shells according to US estimates. Officially, the US has given Ukraine about 2M 155mm shells. That’s a bad sign. It goes along with the for some reason public advice to stop using so much stuff.
Nobody’s going to predict the exact time of a likely Ukrainian collapse, unless the US openly says it is ceasing supply. But it’s probably a safe bet that Ukraine will collapse and the outside timeline is summer 2024. It could also be next week. A successful counteroffensive by Russia, even if not massive in scope, might be enough to trigger collapse of the front. Mud is a problem, but Russia launched this in late February, just in time for lots of mud, and did quite well.

Posted by: Lex | Aug 28 2023 23:07 utc | 165

Re: “ So the obvious Russian play here is to provide Hezbollah and Iranian militias in Iraq with missiles that can reach Washington and to give them targeting data allowing them to hit the Pentagon.”
Posted by: William Verick | Aug 28 2023 20:18 utc | 121
Hezbollah & Iranian “militias” in Iraq? …supply missiles & targeting ability to hit DC? That’s the “obvious play”? Militias? Not the Governments with the actual military, but militias? They wouldn’t arm their own Donbas “militias” in such a way, but they’ll run over to “Iraq” and arm Hezbollah & Iranian “militias”?
Trouble with “militias” even the most well meaning, they sometimes feel the need to “sell” things, they’re often defeated by actual armies who steal their stuff, and some are simply double dealers.
I don’t know… not “obvious to me. Oh well.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 28 2023 23:08 utc | 166

Re: Posted by: Rob | Aug 28 2023 23:04 utc | 165
I agree and good points.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 28 2023 23:18 utc | 167

HUGE! Serbian President Vucic sidestepped:
Think Greece Summit move, did him in.
https://tass.com/world/1666525
Dang! NATO/EU/US must be hemorrhaging.
Oh well.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 28 2023 23:32 utc | 168

„The White House also wants Ukraine to increase its terror attacks on Russian ground“
Another red line crossed! Actually its a declaration of war respectivly terror war
Whats next 5D chessmaster?

Posted by: SlowSoft | Aug 28 2023 23:42 utc | 169

Slavyangrad re-issues a report by a Ukrainian Journalist who visited the front lines WRT
Ukie medical treatment of their combat wounded….
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/60742
Excerpts from an article by a Ukrainian journalist with a volunteer medical team, near the front.

-I am told by those working here that many of those lost in the war die while they are being moved back to safety rather than on the front line. The long journeys to hospital, sometimes up to ten hours, can be lethal, and the availability of adequate first aid is the difference between life and death
-Ukrainians believed that the very best care would be available for their soldiers. But the stark truth is emerging: soldiers are dying in their hundreds or even thousands due to poor medical provision. The problem is being ignored by the military hierarchy, whose focus is on sourcing weapons and pushing the counteroffensive rather than prioritising injured fighters.
-I see the Hospitallers take in six injured soldiers who have been handed over to them by combat medics. These men were hurt about five hours ago; it then takes four more hours to get them to the hospital in Dnipro.
-The bureaucracy surrounding the first aid process is to blame for many of the shortages. If a hospital vehicle is destroyed by enemy fire, it is not registered as being out of action until an official investigation has been carried out. This can take up to six months… It’s common to find military brigades that have lost 80 per cent of their evacuation transport, but that can’t be resupplied because the official report does not acknowledge that the vehicles have been destroyed.
-Volodymyr Prudnikov, head of Ukraine’s Medical Forces Command’s procurement department, was accused of supplying 11,000 uncertified Chinese tactical medical kits to the front line. It is alleged that Prudnikov awarded £1.5 million-worth of contracts to a company co-founded by his daughter-in-law and passed the Chinese kits off as Nato standard.
-The medics I speak to say that two-thirds of Ukrainian soldiers die from blood loss.
-15% of medical supplies donated by the West in 2022 were past expiration date.
———-
Article by Svetlana Morenets,

This explains the very high percentage of KIA vs WIA…
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Aug 28 2023 23:52 utc | 170

So the Ukrainian establishment is up in arms about the Pope’s praise of Russian emperors Peter and Catherine and continue trying to foist their fake version of history on all international media abd crying about the poor eternally downtrodden ‘Ukrainian nation’.
Now Zelensky is trying to use western pressure to hold elections next year to blackmail the EU into sustained funding of the Ukrainian state. Without continued foreign cash flow his hold on power will collapse into chaos. They also want to use the votes of the EU diaspora to sway the balance in their favor.
There are rumors of a new massive conscription drive starting next month. I believe that this mobilisation will weaken the ability of Ukraine to function and maintain logistics for the war effort. A Russian push after the call up but before the new conscripts recieve their training might succeed in collapsing the state.
One can see why Russia’s goal is to sweep away this horrid zombie pretense for a nation. There can be no peace as long as it continues to exist.

Posted by: the pessimist | Aug 28 2023 23:55 utc | 171

Moscow-led defense bloc invites Saudi, Iranian, Chinese, Mongolian observers to drills
Combat Brotherhood, a joint operational and strategic exercise, will be held in Belarus on September 1-6.
https://tass.com/defense/1666145
The last 2 times Belarus trained with Russia Ukraine got pounded on. If they are inviting these guys to observe the drills you can bet the Russians have big plans and are confident enough to brag days in advance

Posted by: OohCanada | Aug 28 2023 23:57 utc | 172

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» munitions imports from North Korea and Iran «
I have yet to see any credible evidence for this continually repeated ‘assessment’
It is possible that Russia has recieved supplies from these nations. Rather than use them in Ukraine they go to the stategic reserve. This frees up more Russian ammo for use in Ukraine.
No evidence, but gives those nations deniability
Posted by: Tommy | Aug 28 2023 19:29 utc | 98

I’ve seen videos of DPRK 152 mm shells being loaded into a russian howitzer…
Ditto with Iranian drones…
Likely, ditto with stuff from the PRC…
Why not???
It’s war!
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Aug 29 2023 0:03 utc | 173

@ Constantine | Aug 28 2023 22:38 utc | 158
i think with imran khan – he was between a rock and a hard place.. no one can speak their mind directly as they have to consider the implications for the country they represent.. usa imf has screwed pakistan up the yin yang, supporting military coups and worse – anything he says will be used against him – in fact, it already has as we see in the fact he is no longer leader of pakistan.. i think pakistan is very corrupt and driven by money considerations all the time.. well, so are most countries.. they are unwilling to confront the bully and that ought to surprise no one..
@ Ново З | Aug 28 2023 22:56 utc | 163
okay..i can agree to that up to a point… depends on how far carried away one wants to get with colour arrangements.. i know the west went overboard with the blue and yellow.. i even saw canadians minister freeland with an oun – black and red – flag, draped in front of her.. in her case the messaging was very straight forward and clear.. no kickback – cause – canada…
@ Trubind1 | Aug 28 2023 23:32 utc | 169
interesting.. wonder how far that goes..

Posted by: james | Aug 29 2023 0:27 utc | 174

Some videos for today.
Russian Ka-52’s guided missiles destroy more enemy armored vehicles on the southern DPR front:
https://rutube.ru/video/02c77a50617cbeabb0ef063a5f98c13a/
Russian ATGM strikes enemy armored vehicle as enemy troops loaded into it:
https://odysee.com/@Overthrown:6/12werw:c
Russian D-20 and Msta-B howitzers destroy NATO-supplied FH-70 howitzer near Krasny Liman:
https://rutube.ru/video/07515882b3332bba781e6ba3072f3366/
Russian marines fire on enemy position near Ugledar, on the southern DPR front:
https://rutube.ru/video/7575b643c504b05411fb4220de3710dd/
Another video showing a Russian Ka-52 assault helicopter in action:
https://rutube.ru/video/3d2bf3d4354007778b877858080361b8/
Russian airborne forces fire shoulder-launched, thermobaric munitions at enemy position near the DPR’s Artemovsk:
https://rutube.ru/video/d7f4d3798a876a1ee82d2393a9f7c85f/
Multiple Russian drone strikes destroy enemy tank:
https://odysee.com/@Overthrown:6/5005656001152:8

Posted by: Nate | Aug 29 2023 0:36 utc | 175

DR. G | Aug 28 2023 23:52 utc | 171
Thanks for posting that; fascinating. The notation of donated med kits being past expiration reminded me of something that happened between VVP and Oliver Stone at the conclusion of the interviews the latter conducted. They had just finished watching Dr. Strangelove (which VVP had not seen), and Stone asked VVP if he would like to keep the dvd. VVP says yes; Stone gives the case to VVP and begins to leave. VVP stops him and shows an empty case to Stone; Stone apologizes, ejects the disc from the player and gives it to VVP, who quips “Typical American gift.”

Posted by: robjira | Aug 29 2023 1:27 utc | 176

Ukraine KIA v WIA
Dr. George W Oprisko | Aug 28 2023 23:52 utc | 171
I recall a cordial dispute with Outraged last year (wish he were still posting, he added value here).
He held the “conventional” view – the strict prescription that 1KIA = 3WIA.
I disputed this, because I doubted Ukraine was providing adequate retrieval and triage. I reckoned, even if WIA *were* medivacced from the front, they’d die at the many chokepoints along the way.
And even once in hospital, prognosis would be poor….
Add in the corruption of stolen medical supplies, and supplies that exist only in nepotistic contracts….
Long term – amputees need ongoing treatment, which will be reduced over time.
The war-related dying won’t stop with the final bullet.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 29 2023 1:46 utc | 177

@Sundance | Aug 28 2023 15:49 utc | 35

Russia is still selling Uranium to the USA – FUCK the hypocrites in the Kremlin allowing their own Russian people to die in a grinding war that they have the ability to enforce the dozens of “red lines” that the USA/NATO has crossed.

1) This is an economic war, as much as it is a military war or an information war.
2) Economic wars are not about access to resources, but about access to markets.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Aug 29 2023 1:57 utc | 178

Nate, thanks for your daily vid links.
Found this .
Too funny not to share
https://odysee.com/@trader.one:d/bear-mc-burger-check:a
>…Remember last year, when removal of American fast food was supposed to be the greatest deprivation conceivable?
This Russian bear is “nyet”….

Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 29 2023 2:04 utc | 179

Good post. I think Milley is delusional. But I wonder when the Russian offensive will start? This fall or later?

Posted by: Johnnyguitar | Aug 29 2023 2:09 utc | 180

VV Putin knows well what NATO did to Serbia in the period 1995-1999, in fact he strongly urged intervention during the aftermath of the NATO bombing of Serbia in 1999, which led to the severing of the Serbia home province of Kosovo.
He alone sought to assist the Serbs………..the incident at Pristina airport in 1999, is proof positive of his intent. The Russian armored column that raced across Bosnia and though Serbia and into Kosovo was one of the most dramatic and symbolic efforts in defense of the Serb nation. The Russia paras seized the airport ahead of the UK, an act that outraged the NATO Commander General Wesley Clark.
Serbs will never forget this, for when no one sprang to the defense of Serbia, Putin did……today he is extremely popular in Serbia, nearly a cult figure.
Putin knew full well that what was planned for the Donbass early 2022, it was the same aggression that NATO demonstrated against Serbia in the 1990’s, the destruction of the Serbian Republic of the Krajina, the attacks on Serb Republic of Bosnia, and finally the massive air attacks on the Serb Republic itself in which thousands of Serb civilians were killed or maimed.
Putin struck pro actively to protect the Russian nationals in the Donbass……so be it….

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Aug 29 2023 2:11 utc | 181

Your “concern” sounds like:
Heaven forbid a Solar Flare should destroy most of humanity but only the “elite” survive”.
It’s twisted. Get over your “class hate” it’s not healthy.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 28 2023 22:34 utc | 157 i n response to Constantine | Aug 28 2023 21:55 utc | 140.
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Why you should NOT love a capitalist or capitalism/
Constantine, I do not always agree with you, but for Gods sakes do not listen to Tribind1 on this issue. You should NEVER get over your “class hate.” To do so is not healthy for humanity, and especially not the working class, which is the only barrier to capitalist domination of all humanity: As an economic system, capitalism can only serve a minority, but NEVER the majority of humanity, because it is an exploitive economic system.
The future of the majority of humanity, its ability to live in a world without exploitation for the benefit of a minority international ruling class, depends on the exploited classes (primarily the working and the toiling masses) to resist the current capitalist economic system, and the minority classes that are served by that system.
When someone tells you; “don’t be a class hater,” they are saying either kiss the capitalist ass, just as they do! Or they consider themselves to be a part of that class: Generally speaking, they are fools because there is a high cost to become a member of the capitalist club.
To be a capitalist you must have a great deal of capital, and your primary source of income must come from the investment of that capital in either finance capital (rents, interest bearing bonds, or government securities’), or the investments of capital extracted from previous (spent, or concrete dead) labor of the working-class into the production of commodities for sale on the international market for a profits.
The profits, (i.e., surplus capital), have an exchange value when sold in the marketplace for a price above, and beyond the cost of the wages and benefits paid to the laborer. That surplus capital belongs to the workers because it was created by their labor, but it remains uncompensated because it is retained by the capitalist “owners” of the means of production to pay for their lavish lifestyle, and then to be re-invest into the next round of exploitive production, or into financial investments: This was true in Marx’s day, and it remains true today: Capitalism is still capitalism.
The only real difference is that in Marx’s day, more capital was invested into commodity production at home, while today more capital is invested into financial ventures and/or investments of capital to produce commodities has moved to poorer foreign countries with cheap slave labor. Also, today more capital is invested into new and modern technology that requires less and less human labor, i.e. the working class is becoming obsolete: Can you say AI.
If you do not “earn” your living this kind of investments, you are not a member of the exploitive capitalist ruling-class that Trubind1 wants you to LOVE: You might as well love a slave master that beats you with a whip if you don’t pick enough cotton to suit his/her profit margins.

Posted by: Ed | Aug 29 2023 2:23 utc | 182

what do you recommend russia do at this point?? attack nato, the ones responsible here??
Posted by: james | Aug 28 2023 15:04 utc | 22
In this recent interview, Macgregor hints that Russians are holding back wrt targeting NATO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XbP7sQVRWc&t=1762s

Posted by: farm ecologist | Aug 29 2023 2:27 utc | 183

Dr George W Oprisko @ 171:
I don’t think the Ukie political / military elites particularly care if Ukrainian soldiers are dying from blood loss or other injuries while waiting to be taken to hospital for treatment.
I should think that with Western funding drying up, the elites will resort to more underhanded methods of obtaining income or whatever else they need to sustain their lavish lifestyles and overseas property investments.
Butchering and mutilating those soldiers’ bodies for their organs to sell on the black market will be looking more and more attractive to those criminals.
Expect also that with Russian targeting of infrastructure, including hospitals and other buildings normally used to provide medical and healthcare services being taken over by the military to store weapons and ammunition, any delays in getting help for wounded soldiers will worsen. Russian targeting of the electricity network infrastructure will add to the delays as well.
Western nations should be considering sending field hospitals to Ukraine (I’m looking at the usual helpers like France’s MSF or Israel) – anyone see or hear of news that such assistance is forthcoming? – wake me up if you do, I’m going back to sleep.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Aug 29 2023 2:30 utc | 184

“… i even saw canadians minister freeland with an oun – black and red – flag, draped in front of her.. in her case the messaging was very straight forward and clear.. no kickback – cause – canada…”
@ Trubind1 | Aug 28 2023 23:32 utc | 169
interesting.. wonder how far that goes..
Posted by: james | Aug 29 2023 0:27 utc | 175
Talking of Krystia Freeland she seems to have gone a little quiet lately. Says she’s worried that the West may be losing interest in Ukraine. I think she’s right.
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/07/21/chrystia-freeland-aspen-ukraine-00107658

Posted by: dh | Aug 29 2023 2:32 utc | 185

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Aug 29 2023 1:57 utc | 179
@Sundance | Aug 28 2023 15:49 utc | 35
Russia is still selling Uranium to the USA – FUCK the hypocrites in the Kremlin…..
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In any complex advanced society there are wheels within wheels, levels within levels.
Wars rarely touch the oligarch Big Corp levels. Those are the sorts of levels that uranium gets traded. Like during WW II the US kept shipping Germany oil.
The more things change….

Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 29 2023 2:51 utc | 186

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Aug 29 2023 2:30 utc | 185
Western nations should be considering sending field hospitals to Ukraine (I’m looking at the usual helpers like France’s MSF or Israel) – anyone see or hear of news that such assistance is forthcoming? – wake me up if you do, I’m going back to sleep.
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What gives you the impression that the emptying out of the Ukraine territory is not one of the main goals of the SMO from the Western+Oligarchs POV?

Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 29 2023 2:54 utc | 187

@ Melaleuca | Aug 29 2023 2:04 utc | 180
hilarious! yes – thanks nate too… i appreciate it nate..
@ farm ecologist | Aug 29 2023 2:27 utc | 184
thanks.. there is no doubt in my mind russia is holding back.. no doubt whatsoever…
@ dh | Aug 29 2023 2:32 utc | 186
and that was from a month ago.. she is on a one way ticket to hell as i see it.. and that is definitely the place for her! unfortunately for many of us canucks, we still have to put up with her bs 24-7…

Posted by: james | Aug 29 2023 2:57 utc | 188

“…and that was from a month ago.. she is on a one way ticket to hell as i see it.. and that is definitely the place for her! unfortunately for many of us canucks, we still have to put up with her bs 24-7…”
Posted by: james | Aug 29 2023 2:57 utc | 189
Wondering if Justin has had enough of her. Of course he still has the Ukraine lobby to consider.

Posted by: dh | Aug 29 2023 3:05 utc | 189

Let’s be honest here. We all know that the Empire will not give up the fight for dominance. Day to day doesn’t matter as much as the long game. I’d like to dedicate a song to Peter au. “It’s a Mistake” by Men at Work. A proper Aussie band. Cheers friends!

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Aug 29 2023 3:10 utc | 190

@ dh | Aug 29 2023 3:05 utc | 190
the problem i have had with her for a very long time, is the background and hidden support she has gotten, to be where she is now… it is said she was close to george soros – was going to write a biography on him when she worked at financial times… the info on her grandfather working for the nazis has never gone away.. john helmer reported on this many years ago and the canadian press worked hard to keep it out of the canadian news – russian propaganda you know – but that is bullshit… this lady is damaged goods and most canucks are too thick to pick up on it… she has wanted trudeaus job since day one.. that much has been very obvious.. canucks might just be stupid enough to go for it too.. sad but true.. at this point trudeau is totally damaged goods..

Posted by: james | Aug 29 2023 3:15 utc | 191

One more for Peter.”Who can it be Now” Men at Work. Cheers to everyone. Is it too much to ask for a happy ending? Hahaha.

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Aug 29 2023 3:29 utc | 192

james | Aug 29 2023 3:15 utc | 192
I guess Justin was trying to be a good feminist and she walked all over him. Not sure what you can do about the Ukrainian lobby. It all comes down to votes.

Posted by: dh | Aug 29 2023 3:47 utc | 193

Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 28 2023 17:03 utc | 53
> I disagree. Not everything will go according to US/WEF desires & plans.
That’s not what I implied. They just “think” they can get away wit it another time. Maybe even double down and/or escalate. Because that’s the ONLY move these people are capable of. The only thing that may end this charade is the military pulling a coup. Which is also the main reason why the establishment had it vaxxed and gender swapped to the brink.
> Ukraine has “just begun”. Russia “hasn’t done anything so far”.
Ukraine is done and Russia is winning. And NATO-boots on the ground won’t happen as even the dumbest US-vassall understands the consequences. Though the Polish leadership and some of the rabid politicians of the Baltic states may think otherwise.
> If you think Russia has any intention of allowing US/NATO to slither off into
> “political “ shadowland about Ukraine like Libya, Iraq , Afghanistan & Syria
> when they got bored, or shinier objects got their attention…
Russia is playing the long game. They always have and for centuries. “Let them come to us and bleed dry. We’ll pay them a visit later!”
The Western “values society” is playing poker and the Russians play chess. And even though Prigozhin is (or may be) dead there are always more “promotions” possible. And turn a lowly “pawn” into a deadly (propaganda) “queen”.
Whereas the US can only win with a Full House. And that’s only by luck and not by brains. And they have run out of both. And cheating (e.a. via endless propaganda) doesn’t work if all eyes are on your hands.

Posted by: RobRob | Aug 29 2023 3:56 utc | 194

Constantine 158
Your remark about Imran Khan not vocalising that Nato planned and caused the war in Ukraine reminds me of a time when my son who does massage was asked by his female employer in posh Bath Spa to wear the toga of a Roman slave while giving rich and bored ladies their facial massages.
Empire demands grovel obedience and nobody should ever be asked to do that in this day and age.

Posted by: Giyane | Aug 29 2023 3:56 utc | 195

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Aug 28 2023 13:03 utc | 3
Cheers. I don’t normally appreciate it when you copy/paste entire text, but in this instance, very justified.
I believe there is general misunderstanding as to what a counteroffensive is or even a breakthrough.
Let’s start with a squad to keep things simple. An example, a soldier’s Standard Battle Order (SBO) is 9 magazines for his rifle, 4 grenades of various types, as well as ammo for the squad’s grenade launcher (or RPG) and section automatic weapon (SAW). This x amount of ammunition is called Combat Load.
A Full Battle Order includes carrying ammo for Company’s and Battalion’s support weapons (GPMG/HMG/82mm mortar/recoilless gun/atgm/etc.) + food & clothes for 3 days(example).
The SBO Combat Load is determined by the intensity of the engagement. We can judge from footage that this is a very high intensity conflict, so for exercise purposes, we will assume that an SBO is 1 x combat load. (For low intensity/CTO/jungle warfare the same SBO could be 2.25 Combat Load, as an example)
This means that for that squad to take a Russian position, an entire combat load is expended.
Let’s assume that the squad was debussed by an APC and the APC carries another 3 combat loads for the squad.
Behind the squad and platoon is the company, and further back is the company’s “combat train” (with the rest of the ammo and supplies required for this particular mission). Repeat up the chain for Battalion, Brigade, Regiment, Division, Army.
How far back the unit’s Combat Train (the APC in this example) is determined by how quickly it is to replenish the point elements and how good the opponent’s interdiction capabilities are.
If the unit that has displaced the enemy is unable to reorg, they in return will be dislodged. (remember, they have shot their load, pun unintended)
The whole purpose of this very long-winded explanation is to illustrate that there has never been a counteroffensive or even a breakthrough unless the unit is Battalion sized or larger.
The reason why this will never happen is because of Russia’s interdiction on the “Combat Train” at the theater level.
Cheers.

Posted by: Suresh | Aug 29 2023 4:00 utc | 196

Re: Posted by: RobRob | Aug 29 2023 3:56 utc | 195
I agree, I liked your comment about “rabid politicians” in relation to Poland.
Good “talk”… Cheers 🍻

Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 29 2023 4:03 utc | 197

I’m thinking there is an advantage for the US to stretch this game into next year.
They can minimize the numbers of these radical Russian haters, pdq. this has to take place no matter what the outcome of the war. The biggest problem is how and who will manage the remnants of the rump state of the remaining 15-25 million Ukrainians when all is said and done.
Meanwhile those in power in the West can put a notch in their belt by ‘handling’ this conflict with Russia. Yeh sure….That’ll gain support for “re election”

Posted by: thebeek | Aug 29 2023 4:09 utc | 198

Posted by: Andrew S MacGregor | Aug 28 2023 22:49 utc | 161
> Dear Rob, It’s the wrong tense. Australia is already ‘fully fascist/woke’ or
> whatever, and yes the sheep will comply
The prison continent has turned into a prison once again.
But I always remember the massive double standards of Australian politics towards the Aboriginals – at least for a century by now. (And after genociding them by all means possible before.) It NEVER mattered which party was in power. They all never “invested” more than pretty words and, usually, made everything worse.
One reason being that the prisoners never came into power in Australian politics. It always was ONLY the wardens. And that’s exactly the kind of politics you see there – nannies and wardens govern the (former) colonies. And for them everybody else is a child (at best) AND a criminal.

Posted by: RobRob | Aug 29 2023 4:09 utc | 199

First rule of dealing drugs is don’t get hooked on your own supply. Idiotic Operation Mockingbird dealt its own propaganda ‘supply’ to its own private intelligence gathering (Big Media) and private analysis (Think Tanks). Garbage in, garbage out.
And now it’s stuck believing its own ‘supply’, hence trapping itself, the West, in Ukraine. Now the addicts, MIC, NeoCons, & Alphabet Intelligence Agencies, have to redose themselves to avoid the crash of reality. All because they thought they could supply everyone else addictive garbage intel yet remain aloof & immune.
Ya played yourself, you fools, and now don’t know how to get out of your own bed. Good. Stay trapped under your own duvet cover, claiming your still winning. The world now moves on away from you.

Posted by: titmouse | Aug 29 2023 4:15 utc | 200