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August 31, 2023
Ukraine Open Thread 2023-206
Only for news & views directly related to the Ukraine conflict. The current open thread for other issues is here. Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.
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Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 1 2023 16:46 utc | 210 Posted by: KitaySupporter | Sep 1 2023 17:00 utc | 401 Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 1 2023 16:46 utc | 210 Posted by: KitaySupporter | Sep 1 2023 17:00 utc | 402 I have noticed a bias here among the commenters…. Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 1 2023 17:06 utc | 403 I have noticed a bias here among the commenters…. Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 1 2023 17:06 utc | 404 Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 1 2023 17:06 utc | 205 Posted by: Jusses | Sep 1 2023 17:19 utc | 405 Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 1 2023 17:06 utc | 205 Posted by: Jusses | Sep 1 2023 17:19 utc | 406 ukronazi regime has shift the attention from failed counter attack to successfull drone attack inside Russia. Posted by: tesla | Sep 1 2023 17:23 utc | 407 ukronazi regime has shift the attention from failed counter attack to successfull drone attack inside Russia. Posted by: tesla | Sep 1 2023 17:23 utc | 408 To Tesla: Your namesake was a genius but you are more of a simpleton. “Drone production facilities” springing up like mushrooms… Laughable! Drones are not produced in Ukraine, just assembled from packages. You can do it in your garage. You do not need a factory or a workshop for that! Posted by: Teraspol | Sep 1 2023 17:40 utc | 409 To Tesla: Your namesake was a genius but you are more of a simpleton. “Drone production facilities” springing up like mushrooms… Laughable! Drones are not produced in Ukraine, just assembled from packages. You can do it in your garage. You do not need a factory or a workshop for that! Posted by: Teraspol | Sep 1 2023 17:40 utc | 410 Ukraine elections. funny a week ago usa representatives spoke of funding the elections as zel was broke. desperate to show democracy as actually important it was being pushed by usa .martial law or not. now zel is linking elections to more weapons. even more democracy values the EU can be proud of. Posted by: hankster | Sep 1 2023 18:00 utc | 411 Ukraine elections. funny a week ago usa representatives spoke of funding the elections as zel was broke. desperate to show democracy as actually important it was being pushed by usa .martial law or not. now zel is linking elections to more weapons. even more democracy values the EU can be proud of. Posted by: hankster | Sep 1 2023 18:00 utc | 412 The Nato trained army of around 70k, mostly in the Zaporozhye front will complete its destruction in the following weeks. Posted by: unimperator | Sep 1 2023 18:08 utc | 413 The Nato trained army of around 70k, mostly in the Zaporozhye front will complete its destruction in the following weeks. Posted by: unimperator | Sep 1 2023 18:08 utc | 414 Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 1 2023 16:25 utc | 198 Posted by: Ed4 | Sep 1 2023 18:44 utc | 415 Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 1 2023 16:25 utc | 198 Posted by: Ed4 | Sep 1 2023 18:44 utc | 416 Posted by: hankster | Sep 1 2023 18:00 utc | 209
ukrinform | Elections in Ukraine should take place after end of martial law (19.06.23)
Posted by: sln2002 | Sep 1 2023 18:47 utc | 417 Posted by: hankster | Sep 1 2023 18:00 utc | 209
ukrinform | Elections in Ukraine should take place after end of martial law (19.06.23)
Posted by: sln2002 | Sep 1 2023 18:47 utc | 418 About International Republican Institute (IRI). Posted by: sln2002 | Sep 1 2023 18:51 utc | 419 About International Republican Institute (IRI). Posted by: sln2002 | Sep 1 2023 18:51 utc | 420 It is unlikely that Ukraine managed to send multiple drones 800km Posted by: rk | Sep 1 2023 18:57 utc | 421 It is unlikely that Ukraine managed to send multiple drones 800km Posted by: rk | Sep 1 2023 18:57 utc | 422 I did note that no one in that interview was bragging about Posted by: sln2002 | Sep 1 2023 19:03 utc | 423 I did note that no one in that interview was bragging about Posted by: sln2002 | Sep 1 2023 19:03 utc | 424 Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 1 2023 17:06 utc | 205 “Why don’t we talk about these items???” Posted by: Ed4 | Sep 1 2023 19:03 utc | 425 Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 1 2023 17:06 utc | 205 “Why don’t we talk about these items???” Posted by: Ed4 | Sep 1 2023 19:03 utc | 426 Slavyangrad is posting recipes, and I’m wondering if the Russians are lying about AFU successes. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 1 2023 19:04 utc | 427 Slavyangrad is posting recipes, and I’m wondering if the Russians are lying about AFU successes. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 1 2023 19:04 utc | 428 Posted by: Ed4 | Sep 1 2023 19:03 utc | 216 Posted by: sln2002 | Sep 1 2023 19:36 utc | 429 Posted by: Ed4 | Sep 1 2023 19:03 utc | 216 Posted by: sln2002 | Sep 1 2023 19:36 utc | 430 Posted by: Ed4 | Sep 1 2023 18:44 utc | 211 Posted by: Milites | Sep 1 2023 20:16 utc | 431 Posted by: Ed4 | Sep 1 2023 18:44 utc | 211 Posted by: Milites | Sep 1 2023 20:16 utc | 432 ZimZum | Sep 1 2023 10:24 utc | 147 Posted by: Cherrycoke | Sep 1 2023 20:26 utc | 433 ZimZum | Sep 1 2023 10:24 utc | 147 Posted by: Cherrycoke | Sep 1 2023 20:26 utc | 434 Dima syas “The Russians Inflict CRITICAL Losses. Final AFU Redeployment.” Posted by: simplex | Sep 1 2023 20:34 utc | 435 Dima syas “The Russians Inflict CRITICAL Losses. Final AFU Redeployment.” Posted by: simplex | Sep 1 2023 20:34 utc | 436 Re: “ Next year, with 100-200 f16s pretending to be Ukr, bombing over the border exactly like in Syria will become normal.” Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 1 2023 20:41 utc | 437 Re: “ Next year, with 100-200 f16s pretending to be Ukr, bombing over the border exactly like in Syria will become normal.” Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 1 2023 20:41 utc | 438 If it is true that Zelensky’s popularity is plunging, this increases the chance of catastrophe. He’s a dead ender. He can buy all the mansions he wants but who will guarantee that he can’t extradicted to face the mess left behind? Knives will be out then. Posted by: Eighthman | Sep 1 2023 20:47 utc | 439 If it is true that Zelensky’s popularity is plunging, this increases the chance of catastrophe. He’s a dead ender. He can buy all the mansions he wants but who will guarantee that he can’t extradicted to face the mess left behind? Knives will be out then. Posted by: Eighthman | Sep 1 2023 20:47 utc | 440 BBC reports that the Ukrainians now claim the drone attacks on Pskov were launched from within Russia itself: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66682503 . Posted by: Seward | Sep 1 2023 20:48 utc | 441 BBC reports that the Ukrainians now claim the drone attacks on Pskov were launched from within Russia itself: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66682503 . Posted by: Seward | Sep 1 2023 20:48 utc | 442 simplex @ 221
God God man, Dima is just a self tiled, self appointed expert on social media: Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 1 2023 20:57 utc | 443 simplex @ 221
God God man, Dima is just a self tiled, self appointed expert on social media: Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 1 2023 20:57 utc | 444 Mike R | Sep 1 2023 13:42 utc | 168 Posted by: Cherrycoke | Sep 1 2023 21:03 utc | 445 Mike R | Sep 1 2023 13:42 utc | 168 Posted by: Cherrycoke | Sep 1 2023 21:03 utc | 446 Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 1 2023 20:41 utc | 222 Posted by: unimperator | Sep 1 2023 21:06 utc | 447 Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 1 2023 20:41 utc | 222 Posted by: unimperator | Sep 1 2023 21:06 utc | 448 Posted by: Seward | Sep 1 2023 20:48 utc | 224 “closest point in the Ukraine is 800 KM from Pskov.” Posted by: Ed4 | Sep 1 2023 21:06 utc | 449 Posted by: Seward | Sep 1 2023 20:48 utc | 224 “closest point in the Ukraine is 800 KM from Pskov.” Posted by: Ed4 | Sep 1 2023 21:06 utc | 450 @Trubind1 | Sep 1 2023 20:41 utc | 222
They’ve never stopped. Posted by: cirsium | Sep 1 2023 21:15 utc | 451 @Trubind1 | Sep 1 2023 20:41 utc | 222
They’ve never stopped. Posted by: cirsium | Sep 1 2023 21:15 utc | 452 Posted by: unimperator | Sep 1 2023 21:06 utc | 227 “Maybe it also requires electronic warfare denial, to lock down certain area airspace completely.” Posted by: Ed4 | Sep 1 2023 21:20 utc | 453 Posted by: unimperator | Sep 1 2023 21:06 utc | 227 “Maybe it also requires electronic warfare denial, to lock down certain area airspace completely.” Posted by: Ed4 | Sep 1 2023 21:20 utc | 454 In all of the prior conflicts mentioned there was no internet so no way for a soldier or anyone else outside the govt or military to know how bad the casualties actually were until much later. Posted by: AHB | Sep 1 2023 21:27 utc | 455 In all of the prior conflicts mentioned there was no internet so no way for a soldier or anyone else outside the govt or military to know how bad the casualties actually were until much later. Posted by: AHB | Sep 1 2023 21:27 utc | 456 Re 228: Thanks. I used the on-line appp for city-to-city great-circle distances to Pskov. But the closest I found was 813 KM for Kiev. The app gave exactly the same distance for Chernigov, Sumy, Zhitomer, and Lutsk, all possibly closer, using both their Russian and Ukrainian spellings. I got a different distance for Kharkov, 1012 KM. Maybe the app only recognizes major cities. Posted by: Seward | Sep 1 2023 21:27 utc | 457 Re 228: Thanks. I used the on-line appp for city-to-city great-circle distances to Pskov. But the closest I found was 813 KM for Kiev. The app gave exactly the same distance for Chernigov, Sumy, Zhitomer, and Lutsk, all possibly closer, using both their Russian and Ukrainian spellings. I got a different distance for Kharkov, 1012 KM. Maybe the app only recognizes major cities. Posted by: Seward | Sep 1 2023 21:27 utc | 458 Denial is a wonderful thing…. obviates reading info you don’t want to acknowledge.. Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 1 2023 22:12 utc | 459 Denial is a wonderful thing…. obviates reading info you don’t want to acknowledge.. Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 1 2023 22:12 utc | 460 Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 1 2023 22:12 utc | 233 Posted by: unimperator | Sep 1 2023 23:01 utc | 461 Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 1 2023 22:12 utc | 233 Posted by: unimperator | Sep 1 2023 23:01 utc | 462 If NATO/Biden seek a frozen conflict, the best way to get one is to go over to the defensive and cease the march. Unfortunately for Ukie soldiers however, it appears the march will continue; so, the best thing to do is to drop out for self-preservation as the march is suicidal. Posted by: Acco Hengst | Sep 1 2023 23:04 utc | 463 If NATO/Biden seek a frozen conflict, the best way to get one is to go over to the defensive and cease the march. Unfortunately for Ukie soldiers however, it appears the march will continue; so, the best thing to do is to drop out for self-preservation as the march is suicidal. Posted by: Acco Hengst | Sep 1 2023 23:04 utc | 464 Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 1 2023 22:12 utc | 233 “Armchair Warlord’s analysis…” Posted by: Ed4 | Sep 1 2023 23:04 utc | 465 Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 1 2023 22:12 utc | 233 “Armchair Warlord’s analysis…” Posted by: Ed4 | Sep 1 2023 23:04 utc | 466 Posted by: Ed4 | Sep 1 2023 23:04 utc | 236 Posted by: unimperator | Sep 1 2023 23:11 utc | 467 Posted by: Ed4 | Sep 1 2023 23:04 utc | 236 Posted by: unimperator | Sep 1 2023 23:11 utc | 468 Has everybody read this FANTASTIC NEW BOOK JUST OUT called “Inside the Mind of Vladimir V. Putin: What Russia Should Do in its War with Ukraine and Why I Think So” by Professor Dr. George William Oprisko III. Rivetting psycho-fiction. It’s the third in a trilogy including “Why All Things Have Only Two Options — The Way I See Them and the Way I Don’t”, a brilliant collaboration with Dr. Richard Steven Hack; and their previous best seller “The Art of Arogance”. Posted by: SCCC | Sep 1 2023 23:13 utc | 469 Has everybody read this FANTASTIC NEW BOOK JUST OUT called “Inside the Mind of Vladimir V. Putin: What Russia Should Do in its War with Ukraine and Why I Think So” by Professor Dr. George William Oprisko III. Rivetting psycho-fiction. It’s the third in a trilogy including “Why All Things Have Only Two Options — The Way I See Them and the Way I Don’t”, a brilliant collaboration with Dr. Richard Steven Hack; and their previous best seller “The Art of Arogance”. Posted by: SCCC | Sep 1 2023 23:13 utc | 470 Ed4@236 Posted by: the pessimist | Sep 1 2023 23:20 utc | 471 Ed4@236 Posted by: the pessimist | Sep 1 2023 23:20 utc | 472 Posted by: Ed4 | Sep 1 2023 23:04 utc | 236 Posted by: Ed4 | Sep 1 2023 23:52 utc | 473 Posted by: Ed4 | Sep 1 2023 23:04 utc | 236 Posted by: Ed4 | Sep 1 2023 23:52 utc | 474 “Whatever it takes.” “For as long as it lasts.” Posted by: kupkee | Sep 2 2023 0:12 utc | 475 “Whatever it takes.” “For as long as it lasts.” Posted by: kupkee | Sep 2 2023 0:12 utc | 476 Posted by: Ed4 | Sep 1 2023 23:52 utc | 240 Posted by: unimperator | Sep 2 2023 0:29 utc | 477 Posted by: Ed4 | Sep 1 2023 23:52 utc | 240 Posted by: unimperator | Sep 2 2023 0:29 utc | 478 Some videos for today. Posted by: Nate | Sep 2 2023 0:36 utc | 479 Some videos for today. Posted by: Nate | Sep 2 2023 0:36 utc | 480 “Why don’t we talk about these items???” Posted by: Figleaf23 | Sep 2 2023 0:37 utc | 481 “Why don’t we talk about these items???” Posted by: Figleaf23 | Sep 2 2023 0:37 utc | 482 repetition wasn’t necessary, but I do find Armchair Warlord’s Pskov analysis fairly plausible (#233). Posted by: smuks | Sep 2 2023 1:00 utc | 483 repetition wasn’t necessary, but I do find Armchair Warlord’s Pskov analysis fairly plausible (#233). Posted by: smuks | Sep 2 2023 1:00 utc | 484 Posted by: unimperator | Sep 1 2023 23:01 utc | 234 Posted by: smuks | Sep 2 2023 1:10 utc | 485 Posted by: unimperator | Sep 1 2023 23:01 utc | 234 Posted by: smuks | Sep 2 2023 1:10 utc | 486 Russia will see any Nato accumulation, including deployment of nukes in Estonia and it will start ringing lot of conditions in nuclear doctrine. They can’t be hidden. Posted by: Acco Hengst | Sep 2 2023 3:03 utc | 487 Russia will see any Nato accumulation, including deployment of nukes in Estonia and it will start ringing lot of conditions in nuclear doctrine. They can’t be hidden. Posted by: Acco Hengst | Sep 2 2023 3:03 utc | 488 Pro-Ukraine fanatics are a fascinating case study of how systematic propaganda can not only manufacture permissiveness towards government policies, but also radicalise a more susceptible wing of the population into a self-sustaining asset for third-party interests. Posted by: Narrative Hole | Sep 2 2023 3:17 utc | 489 Pro-Ukraine fanatics are a fascinating case study of how systematic propaganda can not only manufacture permissiveness towards government policies, but also radicalise a more susceptible wing of the population into a self-sustaining asset for third-party interests. Posted by: Narrative Hole | Sep 2 2023 3:17 utc | 490 Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 1 2023 17:06 utc | 205
A discussion of Ukraine/NATO military blunders would overwhelm the servers. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 2 2023 3:32 utc | 491 Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 1 2023 17:06 utc | 205
A discussion of Ukraine/NATO military blunders would overwhelm the servers. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 2 2023 3:32 utc | 492 What’s behind Japan’s massive military build up plan Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 2 2023 4:11 utc | 493 What’s behind Japan’s massive military build up plan Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 2 2023 4:11 utc | 494 The NAZIS weren’t defeated. Neither were the Japanese imperialists. They just slipped their skins for a better host. Posted by: SCCC | Sep 2 2023 5:03 utc | 495 The NAZIS weren’t defeated. Neither were the Japanese imperialists. They just slipped their skins for a better host. Posted by: SCCC | Sep 2 2023 5:03 utc | 496 Vladimir Putin: Russia will spend 1.9 trillion rubles (£16bn) on annexed Ukraine Posted by: Magic S | Sep 2 2023 5:43 utc | 497 Vladimir Putin: Russia will spend 1.9 trillion rubles (£16bn) on annexed Ukraine Posted by: Magic S | Sep 2 2023 5:43 utc | 498 Russians don’t believe me that Russia will be paying for this war 3 times over. Posted by: sonofabullet | Sep 2 2023 5:47 utc | 499 Russians don’t believe me that Russia will be paying for this war 3 times over. Posted by: sonofabullet | Sep 2 2023 5:47 utc | 500 |
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