Posted by: SCCC | Aug 31 2023 23:33 utc | 101
I liked that post a lot. I agree. You aren’t going to change opinions even of your close family members by getting up on a soapbox and shouting that they are brainwashed and that YOU know the real truth, so listen to me! Which goes against everything the TV-watchers and NYT/WaPo readers and NPR liberals ever hear. It is certainly a blackpill.
But healthy advice, probably.

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 1 2023 1:55 utc | 203

@ 110.
Trouble is press-ganged soldiers don’t fight well and are prone to surrender. So losses on the AFU frontlines will accelerate, as they burn through trained & motivated manpower…

Posted by: Urban Fox | Sep 1 2023 1:58 utc | 205

karlof1 | Aug 31 2023 16:36 utc | 9
purely from the context of the statements of Mrs. Sacharowa, in billiards for “an indirect hard blow” the term “playing over rail” would be used, perhaps that is described in Russian with an indirect kinship relationship “brother-in-law”.
Mrs. Meloni should be said, even if all activities of the US-Goverment are ostensibly directed to the defense of freedom and human rights,( where no one has contributed so much to the global discrediting of the concepts of freedom and human rights as the US-Goverment) nevertheless the weakening of the economic power of the EU can be targeted as a goal.

Posted by: teressamarquesa | Sep 1 2023 2:16 utc | 207

One thing they both agree on is AFU has definitely shifted toward Verbove. Ukraine is now trying to accumulate critical mass of armored and supply vehicles in the field north-east of Robotyne, in order to attempt assault on the defensive line running through Verbove.
If AFU manage to break through the Verbove line, they will yet be encountered a minefield further south, and another defense line beyond that. RU has not contested AFU in NW part of Verbove, additionally RU controls the field west of Robotyne still, and north of Verbove. Meanwhile RU has reshuffled all their forces around Robotyne and Verbove to readjust to the changes on the front.
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 31 2023 23:33 utc | 100
Scott Ritter and Brian Berletic have both said that this move shifts Ukie thrust from a useful direction into a lateral move within a killing field…
This specifically means that the Russians deflected the Ukie offensive into a counter productive
direction, which maximizes the ability of Russian fire power to decimate the Ukies…
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 1 2023 2:22 utc | 209

Waldorf 63
The answer to the enigma of what makes people fight for weird ideologies lies in the balance sheets of Black Rock and Vicky Nuland. I hope he found the answer he was looking for
The answer to the enigma of what makes people fight against the balance sheets Black Rock and Vicky Nuland is more simple: The money they invested in trying to capture Afghanistan was a Total Loss. USUKIS achieves nothing by Colonial war. They learned this lesson in WW1/ WW2. From 1948 to Thatcher in 1979 was one complete generation.
The recidivist Anglosaxons completely forgot their hard- learned psychology lessons in one generation.

Posted by: Giyane | Sep 1 2023 2:26 utc | 211

Posted by: SCCC | Aug 31 2023 23:33 utc | 101
I would add that I see a lot of “FUD” and intentional b.s. on many of these “alternative” sites that will definitely and immediately turn away many “normies”. Discussion pollution. For examples, otherwise seamingly rational people who say “covid doesn’t exist!” or “climate change doesn’t exist!”. These two topics seem to be the most frequent methods used to derail every discussion. And that leads to what “normies” see as evidence for mental disturbances, and then they will mentally discard all of the other rational and truthful stuff. Much over-the-top nonsense. So it is hard for anyone to share mostly-truthful and honest websites on alternative media when there are so many bad actors polluting the threads intentionally with nonsensical jibberish in the comments.
It is a prime example of Cass Sunstein’s “cognitive infiltration”. I think.

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 1 2023 2:28 utc | 213

Re:
” ” ” If the Russians have no mud traversing technology (MTT), then any significant advancements from either side will soon be over for this year.
Posted by: young | Aug 31 2023 15:58 utc | 2 ” ” ”
It may be a hovercraft, supported by compressed air. Russia is not foreign to this. They built and tested very peculiar constructons during Soviet times.

Posted by: LogosApplied | Sep 1 2023 2:32 utc | 215

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 1 2023 2:28 utc | 116
####
Yes true. But hey … shrug. That’s open forum social media for ya — saboteurs, trolls, ignoramuses. Reader beware. Fine tune one’s bs detector, sort the wise from the dross.
In my observations, the greatest conflicts are between egos — “my facts vs your facts”; “I’m right vs you’re not”.

Posted by: SCCC | Sep 1 2023 3:01 utc | 217

Maria Vorontsova and Katerina Tikhonova live in Russia.

Posted by: Jason Fucking Lied | Sep 1 2023 3:06 utc | 219

If AFU manage to break through the Verbove line, they will yet be encountered a minefield further south, and another defense line beyond that. RU has not contested AFU in NW part of Verbove, additionally RU controls the field west of Robotyne still, and north of Verbove. Meanwhile RU has reshuffled all their forces around Robotyne and Verbove to readjust to the changes on the front.
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 31 2023 23:33 utc | 100
Theres a noticable pause or slowdown in the AFU thrust south. This is likely because they are considering 2 options: either expand/protect the flanks east and west of them, which will slow their momentum south OR continue the punch south which risks the AFU being sucked into a future cauldron.

Posted by: HERMIUS | Sep 1 2023 3:16 utc | 221

Ukraine is ready to accept even more casulties. Where is a historical limit of casulties one socity can accept.
Posted by: simplex | Aug 31 2023 16:16 utc | 7
The Germans took about 25-30 percent casualties, (KIA), of their total mobilized force, in WWII. That’s pretty high though.
My guess is that Ukraine cannot withstand more than twenty percent of its total mobilized forces in irrevocable losses – KIA, DOW, MIA, POW, etc.
The questions are then, how many forces has Ukraine mobilized in total, and how many actual losses does it have relative to that number.

Posted by: James M. | Sep 1 2023 3:22 utc | 223

German leader publicly said Putin promised him that the comedian in Kyiv will not be dealt with. Why?
Putin’s children are living in Germany and Berlin uses this fact to blackmail Putin. This is costing Russia dearly.
Posted by: Jason | Sep 1 2023 2:34 utc | 118
You should not believe everything you read or hear.
The German leader recently publicly stated that 100% of Germans stand behind his government in support of weapon deliveries to Ukraine / German involvement in the war in Ukraine. The German leader is a liar.
Putin’s children are not living in Berlin. For security reasons. One lived in the Netherlands. She moved back to Russia years ago, together with her Dutch husband.

Posted by: Martina | Sep 1 2023 4:23 utc | 225

I get your common lament — “people need to wake up to help the world change”. It’s a way of blaming other humans’ ignorance for the state of the world you know you can’t actually control or change. Could you, for example, ever convert, say, your elderly mother from a deep Russophobia? Doubtful. Hence, the bottom line is that we cannot change any other but only ourselves. Thus, neither it is our responsibility to “save” others or even whinge about them. Sounds a bit like virtue signalling to me … “I can see the truth but those others can’t”. There’s also A LOT of that here on MoA!!!
Posted by: SCCC | Aug 31 2023 23:33 utc | 101
Nope. You got that all wrong. I am pointing at a fact. A whole set of facts. There’s a war afoot that at bottom depends upon people’s apathy.
And those who presume to be ‘above’ the people are clearly just as apathetic about doing what could and should be done.
We can change things and we do change things willy nilly – per the butterfly effect for instance.
You seem to shade off into ad hominem, a bit disappointing, but you, accidentally perhaps, speak a truth: ‘I can the truth but those others’ can’t’.
I can and they can’t.
That’s not something to scoff at as is the tenor of your statement.
That’s just a common truth in the world. Often, often, very often only a few can see the truth.
You begin with ‘It’s a way of blaming….’ etc. All wrong or irrelevant when right. i.e. it is ‘sometimes’ a way of blaming, is ‘also’ a way of blaming and so on: it depends upon circumstance and intent.
You presume/assume circumstance and intent and do so to no good effect.
What is your intended effect?
Ask yourself that.
To the observer it is clear enough: your intent is to discard the suggestion that perhaps a campaign of education of the common people to the obvious truths should be mounted and the corollary that our individual opportunities and responsibilities would be to mount for ourselves such campaigns.
We can leave aside the question of whether or not it is our responsibility to save others in general for here we talk about a specific circumstance where the ‘saving’ of others from their misapprehensions and misconduct might save the planet from nuclear war: hence in sheer pragmatic fact it IS our responsibility to save others.
Your facile ill considered post is worthless.

Posted by: arthur brogard | Sep 1 2023 4:33 utc | 227

Posted by: Milites | Sep 1 2023 0:09 utc | 107
I don’t disagree in principle. I do disagree in other ways. “That” $5Bn is just the small tip of a very large iceberg, and specific to a certain mode of funding. Probably at least $5Bn has been spent only on anti-Soviet/anti-Russia sociological programming in Ukraine since 1990. That isn’t to say it actually COST that much, but hey capitalists need to make a profit margin, evade taxes and stash their ill-gotten gains somewhere, right? For every $1 spent on neoliberal/neocon anti-Russian programming, I’m sure at least $0.50 was skimmed and stashed. It doesn’t mean that the programs weren’t highly effective. In fact it means that they were and are highly profitable AND effective on the Ukraine side.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 1 2023 4:41 utc | 229

Posted by: Milites | Sep 1 2023 0:09 utc | 107
In fact I think your argument applies more directly to Israel “aid.” And Ukraine military aid in the past 10 years. That money does take a circuitous route and a lot of it ends up back in the bank accounts of “Rich Men North of Richmond” – and Wall Street.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 1 2023 4:43 utc | 231

From RT, just now:
>>> “The US is using Ukraine as the tip of the spear against Russia, getting a major return on its investment in Kiev without any American lives lost”, according to Senator Richard Blumenthal, a Connecticut Democrat.
“Even Americans who have no particular interest in freedom and independence in democracies worldwide, should be satisfied that we’re getting our money’s worth on our Ukraine investment,” Blumenthal argued.
“For less than 3 percent of our nation’s military budget, we’ve enabled Ukraine to degrade Russia’s military strength by half. We’ve united NATO and caused the Chinese to rethink their invasion plans for Taiwan. We’ve helped restore faith and confidence in American leadership — moral and military. All without a single American service woman or man injured or lost, and without any diversion or misappropriation of American aid,” he claimed.<<< #### Such disgusting talk, and such LIES. 1. US dollars are "an investment" in killing Russians. Whoa! 2. "Half of Russia's militarily strength"? Lmao. Far far from it. Not 1%. 3. There have been plenty of US (unlisted) servicemen killed. And a few (retired) Generals, I believe. 4. "United NATO"? A delusion, contrary to fact. 5. "Caused China to rethink their invasion plans for Taiwan". What plans? Such fantasy. 6. "Helped restore faith and confidence in American leadership — moral and military". Lololol. My sides ache. Ukraine is gunna sink Battleship Biden next election if not sooner. 7. Moral leadership? US morality? 8. "No misappropriation of American aid"? What.the.fuck? Every word, just unbelievable, duplicitous propaganda for the American people. All this is the "We Won" narrative for Wikipedia in 2024. I'm keenly waiting to see the cognitive dissonance hit when it all goes belly up. [Apologies for posting such bullshit into the forum].

Posted by: SCCC | Sep 1 2023 4:44 utc | 233

So Kiev could by that measure with a population of say 30 million to pick what might be a reasonable figure would have 3 million available in the extreme.
That’s not men on the front line, of course. No. That’s mobilised and comprises the whole – the hundreds of thousands of cooks and clerks and whatever.
So far I believe they’ve gone through nearly two million or so I heard. Not killed them all of course, the dead are the front line soldiers. But mobilised in the beginning about a million and since expanded to where two million of their population are militarised, ‘under arms’.
Leaving a million yet to go.
A terrible hard business killing a million people. You’d almost think it worthwhile to try talk to the people instead…
Posted by: arthur brogard | Aug 31 2023 23:04 utc | 93
Apparently, you are resistant to the numerous calculations, made, some of which I posted, which
show… that the current population under the control of the Zelensky regime is ~15 million…
Half the number you fixate upon…
Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Aug 31 2023 23:16 utc | 97
Here we have gratuitous fallacious nonsense about my own self and my reasoning/mind set. That would just about be the definition of ad hominem.
Why would you do that? By what measure does it forward the conversation one whit?
I think it is intended as is usual in the case of those that employ it merely to boost an already overweening case of self admiration.
It also seems to indicate either excessive haste to get pouring out that distasteful stuff or some lack in English comprehension.
Does the phrase ‘for argument’s sake’ mean anything to you?
I used the number of 30 million simply for argument’s sake. It sets a reference line from which those who prefer to think of double that number can quickly double the result and so on. Can you understand that?
And the ‘worked example’ that follows is simply that: a worked example? Is that within your ken?
You then assume that I am ‘resistant to calculations’ ! What does that mealy mouthed phrase mean? It denotes that in your opinion:
1. I have seen these calculations
2. I should be convinced by them.
3. I refuse to be convinced by them.
4. It is germane to my point.
Not one of which is a valid point. Hence words for the sake of words and, as I said, couched in an ad hominem context which makes them not only valueless but essentially vile.
I’ve invented my own ‘pig german’ word for posts such as that: ‘crapenhauser’.
It was a self indulgent childish rude, impertinent and stupid post: a crapenhauser post.
Doubtless you will continue enjoying yourself in this manner as you’ve done for such a long time. You get off on it I suppose.
Well it takes all kinds. Play with your dickey as you see fit.
But leave me out of your orbit sunshine, get far away from me.

Posted by: arthur brogard | Sep 1 2023 4:51 utc | 235

A terrible hard business killing a million people. You’d almost think it worthwhile to try talk to the people instead…
Posted by: arthur brogard | Aug 31 2023 23:04 utc | 93
It needs to be remembered that the ones doing the business of killing a million are americans, europeans, jews (some say 80% of the current ukrainian government), and galicians or other west ukrainians (the remainder of the government); whereas the million getting killed are russian-speaking people and other undesired minorities.
This is intentional genocide, and it’s unlikely to stop with Ukraine.

Posted by: Jusses | Sep 1 2023 5:13 utc | 237

My suggestion for an end-game:
1) Russia is going to take a good chunk of Ukrainian territory. Leaving the remaining a dysfunctional state. A dysfunctional state is not a desirable outcome for anybody. It would continue to cause trouble for itself, for Russia, and for the rest of Europe for as long as it exists.
2) Poland has taken so many Ukrainians that it already in large parts has turned into Polakraine.
3) The rump Ukraine is allowed to merge with Poland (& a bit with Hungary) on the condition that Poland (& Hungary) will exit NATO and subscribe to a policy of strict neutrality. And work towards a normalization with Russia. The EU can flood Polakraine with money to rebuild.
Poland could be enticed to such a solution with the prospect of all the new territory. Ukrainians will be war-weary and looking to all the EU money. Russia just wants a stable non-militaristic neighbor on its western border.
The US Neocons would be miffed. But they have a collapsing empire and a war with China they need to attend to.

Posted by: Rune Denmark | Sep 1 2023 5:41 utc | 239

Posted by: Rune Denmark | Sep 1 2023 5:41 utc | 130 “The rump Ukraine is allowed to merge with Poland (& a bit with Hungary) on the condition that Poland (& Hungary) will exit NATO”
Poland is undertaking a massive rearmament campaign and asking the US to station nuclear weapons in Poland. Given that, why would they exit NATO?
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/poland-wants-deploy-nuclear-weapons-134824493.html

Posted by: Ed4 | Sep 1 2023 6:05 utc | 241

Posted by: SCCC | Sep 1 2023 4:44 utc | 127 “Every word, just unbelievable, duplicitous propaganda for the American people”
It seems both sides beliefs on what is happening is pretty far apart. But if you want Russian TV, at least Vladimir Solovyov seems concerned about the recent events not going all Russia’s way.

Posted by: Ed4 | Sep 1 2023 6:11 utc | 243

@Wisco | Sep 1 2023 2:28 utc | 116

These two topics seem to be the most frequent methods used to derail every discussion.

You just proved it yourself, didn’t you, with “mental disturbances” and all.

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 1 2023 6:21 utc | 245

It is being reported that 2 Ua Mi8 helos crashed on 8-29 near kramatorsk trying to land when they realized that a Russian fighter was launching in range of their operation. 6 pilots dead. Combined with the crash of the Ua fighters a while back on gets the impression that most of the experienced pilots are Ukraine had are dead. I suspect this goes for the military organization as a whole – there has been crippling attrition of experienced troops and officers.

Posted by: the pessimist | Sep 1 2023 6:24 utc | 247

Sorry for the typos in previous post.
RuneD@130
Not sure the Poles are ready to do any agreement with Russia. Perhaps they will see the light but their politicians spout a lot of anti-Russian rhetoric.

Posted by: the pessimist | Sep 1 2023 6:31 utc | 249

The first sign that Russia really waant to win this war would be destruction of Ukrainian 750 Kv electric installations.

Posted by: simplex | Sep 1 2023 6:57 utc | 251

Posted by: Rune Denmark | Sep 1 2023 5:41 utc | 130
Russia just wants a stable non-militaristic neighbor on its western border.
####$
Oh no! Russia wants (needs) a LOT more than that! You haven’t been keeping up, or you’re new to this SMO thingy!
Putin and the RF Duma have frequently stated that they want:
All US/NATO missiles back to 1991 positions.
A whole new European Security Framework written, taking RF interests into account.
Denazification of Ukraine. This will require dissolution and reorganisation of a new Ukrainian Constitution to outlaw Banderism, hence full regime change in Kiev and regional governance.
Demilitarisation of Ukraine, which means either no army, navy, airfore, or one restricted purely to defence.
Removal of sanctions and return of foreign monies stolen under them.
Re-constitution or compensation for Nordstream 2 sabotage.
Trials of all Ukrainian war criminals.
How much of all that they eventually get is the moot point.
Putin/Medvedev/Lavrov have clearly stated that RF is not gunna quit till they attain theyr goals by complete Western capitulation, either at a table or via the battlefield.

Posted by: SCCC | Sep 1 2023 7:23 utc | 253

I doubt that Ukrainians are allowed the luxury of morale.

Posted by: Squeeth | Sep 1 2023 7:51 utc | 255

Posted by: Squeeth | Sep 1 2023 7:51 utc | 136
The mobilisations will continue until morale improves?

Posted by: anon2020 | Sep 1 2023 8:25 utc | 257

I just watched/listenned to this –
https://rumble.com/v315hpu-full-prank-with-alexandre-de-rothschild.html
fascinating but I’m not sure what to make of it. Have Vovan and Lexus ever “conversed” with VV Putin?
.
.
Full prank with the head of the Rothschild Empire
Alexander Rothschild is the great–great-great-grandson of the founder of the dynasty, it was he who became the main one in the family of bankers in 2018, heading the Rothschild & Co holding. Thanks to Frenchman Jacques Attali, the 42-year-old financier was sure that he was communicating with the President of Ukraine.
In a conversation with our “Zelensky”, he told without too much modesty that his family plans to make good money on the Western tranches allocated for the restoration of Ukraine: we are talking about an amount exceeding $ 750 billion.
What do the Rothschilds do in Ukraine? What industries are they most interested in? What does the chief Rothschild think about Putin, about Russian elites and ways to fight Russia? And what is G0? The veil of mystery opens in our new prank!

Posted by: Ново З | Sep 1 2023 8:57 utc | 259

From Military summary video. Apparently activity picked up a bit around Kozachi Laheri, AFU launched various drone attacks and managed to destroy some artillery and ammo dumps. They also tried some landing attempt (probably quite small) but RU saw them and bombarded them. RU also located and destroyed an AFU HQ in the Kherson area.
Dima also referred to what even discussed here earlier, namely the inability to AFU secure its western flank, north-west of Robotyne. RU continues harassing AFU build up north of Robotyne from these lines since AFU has not made effort to seize it.
On another topic. Here’s a pretty good, detailed summary about Ukraine by an Indian major-general Mrinal Suman. Some excerpts:
He goes through the background including US involvement, current state in terms of territory, population, casualties, the probable fate of the coastline, economy, morale and the most likely fate. Lithuania and Poland will also come in from the west and grab stuff there. It just seems more likely that the “leftover” Ukraine will be a landlocked buffer/neutral state, with relatively sparse population.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 1 2023 9:12 utc | 261

Posted by: SCCC | Sep 1 2023 4:44 utc | 127
There is a common thread running through these people, reward for little or no effort. You have to first win to be able to write the history.

Posted by: Milites | Sep 1 2023 9:13 utc | 263

Hence, the bottom line is that we cannot change any other but only ourselves.
Posted by: SCCC | Aug 31 2023 23:33 utc | 101
I agree on everything else except this. I’m always surprised when people repeat this strange untruth.
Other people have changed me. Completely. By teaching me, sharing with me, advising me, by writing books and articles. I’d be dead now without them, if I’d continued to exist the way my childhood society and my parents set me up.
Even more than that, it’s often a really small group of people (or individual people) that create large change, often through very small and simple actions.
I changed my friends by eating healthy food in their presence. They got excited and changed their diet, fixed a lot of health issues. And I never even suggested anything. It was enough that the food was good. In exactly the same way, people have changed my life completely just by correcting my posture a fraction, or helping with a new dress style. For a bullied loser with bad posture from a country of creepy autists, that’s life-changing.
Some people think that the tiniest suggestion to another person to change their diet, posture, habits, worldview or behaviour is a terrible offense that will at worst break friendships and at best lead to temporary improvement followed by resentment and rebound. No, it doesn’t. At least not in healthy people.
Even the densest idiots just need to be flooded with more truths than they are flooded with propaganda.

Posted by: Jusses | Sep 1 2023 9:13 utc | 265

Here is the link (Google doc pdf). Titled:
Ruination of Ukraine is Complete: Yet Another Feather in the US Cap
https://shorturl.at/nsxNX

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 1 2023 9:14 utc | 267

Posted by: the pessimist | Sep 1 2023 6:24 utc | 132
The complexities of modern warfare have reduced the ‘quantity has a quality of its own’, argument considerably, and Poorly trained personnel can often cause more problems for their own side than the enemy, especially if operating sophisticated equipment.

Posted by: Milites | Sep 1 2023 9:37 utc | 269

@Arch Bungle | Aug 31 2023 17:08 utc | 15
Concerning Nuland
She spoke of difficult negociations with Niger’s military when she arrived after the coup.
An intresting remark by the military was to tell Nuland: we dont want to negociate with a careerist.
I dont remenber the source.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Sep 1 2023 9:55 utc | 271

Posted by: james | Aug 31 2023 16:19 utc |
USA-Nato and Zelensky and friends are ready to accept even more casualties; where is a historical limit of casualties a society can accept?
I fixed it grammatically.

Posted by: canuck | Sep 1 2023 10:01 utc | 273

This will end when Russia finally decides to nuke Washington and New Yorks. Yanks are murderous kunts, they must be exterminated.

Posted by: Timur | Sep 1 2023 10:14 utc | 275

SCCC | Aug 31 2023 23:33 utc | 101
I have just had that experience staying at my mothers helping her shift house. She was very positive about Russia having read a lot of my books about the Great Patriotic War, but very anti Putin. It used to be Putin this and Putin that, blaming him for everything “wrong” with the state of the world. I pointed out that he is leader of Russia and fitting in with the West only goes so far, but ultimately he is there to serve the Russian state and it’s people, not our own interests which may actually conflict with his.
I also mentioned that he is mainly reacting to US and NATO provocations and it might be a good thing if they stopped doing this and incidentally they are trying to provoke China as well so I reckon the warmongers are in the West.
I mentioned about the Maiden coup, the shelling of the Donbass and the terrorising of the citizens there, she was ok with that, but when I mentioned Zbigniew Brezinski, the Mackinder World Island project, Barry Posen and the 1994 plan to destabalise Russia which seems to be the current template, and everything else that goes with it, including how it goes back at least to the Crimean War, she shut down and didn’t want to know.
My sister was much the same. My daughters as well. All of these women are well informed and interested in politics but this is a bridge to far for them. I think that it is very hard for well meaning good people to accept that we are not the good guys and haven’t been for centuries. It destroys the very basis of their world view and most people are very reluctant to accept such a change. No one wants to believe the truth about the West that is slowly being revealed through the fog of the MSM lie machine.
It can only be worse for people who aren’t interested in the world at all. I think the possibility of a rude shock is starting to stir in the minds of a lot of people and when it hits it will be devastating.

Posted by: ZimZum | Sep 1 2023 10:24 utc | 277

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Sep 1 2023 9:55 utc | 144

An intresting remark by the military was to tell Nuland: we dont want to negociate with a careerist.
I dont remenber the source.

I think the contents of that meeting would only be disclosed by the subordinates sent to meet Nuland. News about it is scarce, the only thing I’ve heard is that the junta offered to pay for a “weight loss program” for Nuland …
I suspect her actual message was something like: “bring me the head of your leader and I shall give you 30 pieces of silver”.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 1 2023 10:32 utc | 279

@ZimZum | Sep 1 2023 10:24 utc | 147

It destroys the very basis of their world view and most people are very reluctant to accept such a change. No one wants to believe the truth about the West that is slowly being revealed through the fog of the MSM lie machine.

Thank you for sharing your experience. What you describe is the very definition of cognitive dissonance: when new data challenges one’s world view, the most likely outcome is that the new data is rejected in order to preserve the world view. This is how the world is ruled via ‘great lies’.

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 1 2023 10:39 utc | 281

Posted by: Timur | Sep 1 2023 10:14 utc | 146

This will end when Russia finally decides to nuke Washington and New Yorks. Yanks are murderous kunts, they must be exterminated.

Unfortunately this will end for all of us like that. There is another way out though.
Another “salvation” for mankind:

The hordes of third world refugees streaming in through America’s southern borders.
The BLM crazies and the LGBTQ fanatics running loose in America’s streets.
The hordes of H1B workers pillaging American jobs and shoving their way into American politics.

Our hope lies in this rabble.
Hopefully America will sink in the crazy soup of this madness before it ever fires off a single nuke.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 1 2023 10:44 utc | 283

Posted by: SCCC | Sep 1 2023 4:44 utc | 127
Postulate #1: All that matters is money moves from the Waste to Ukraine.
(And back once laundered to wastern pockets).
Postulate #2: You can say whatever you want on Wastern Madia as long as it reinforce Postulate #3.
Postulate #3: War is not meant to be won but to last as long as possible no matter what.
It works very very well.
Holy cow!

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Sep 1 2023 10:56 utc | 285

115 – Today’s “Metro” free newspaper in Britain, consistently pro-Kiev like the rest of MSM, gives this character the front page. “BRIT ‘GAVE HIS LIFE TO STOP PUTIN’.”
Even in the MSM, though, you sometimes get some actual meat in the body of an otherwise cringeworthy article. It mentions Sam Newey, the dead guy, was said to have “headed east to work with Ukraine’s GUR military intelligence”. Newey’s brother Dan, an ex-British paratrooper, apparently fought for Kurds in Syria, often a background characteristic of foreigners fighting in the service of Kiev, and Sam and his father were apparently charged under the Terrorism Act for sending Dan money. Charges were, however, dropped.
Elsewhere in the same newspaper a certain Graham Phillips is accused of being a “Russian propagandist”.

Posted by: Waldorf | Sep 1 2023 10:58 utc | 287

22 year old Brit killed in former Ukrainian territories. Another life wasted by the Anglo-Kiev junta:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-66673733
As reported by BBC, Samuel Newey had previously fought in Syria with Kurdish YPG, classified by Turkiye as a terrorist group, this is a US backed proxy that can be added to the list of proxies dumped by the US.

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Sep 1 2023 11:03 utc | 289

Posted by: Jusses | Sep 1 2023 9:13 utc | 141
>>>Hence, the bottom line is that we cannot change any other but only ourselves. Posted by: SCCC | Aug 31 2023 23:33 utc | 101
I agree on everything else except this. I’m always surprised when people repeat this strange untruth. <<< #### Sorry to contradict you but you are failing to give YOURSELF the agency for the changes you made in yourself, and you are also *taking* agency away from your friends who made their own changes through their relationship with you and *the experience* of something better. You offered the bread, they took the bread. Yes, the things others say and do and teach can be triggers, as can life events, eg traumas. But all those are merely triggers, stimulants, catalysts, messengers, and NOT the actual mechanisms or forces of one's internal changes. Mindset A, which you hold before a teaching, is within you. Mindset B, which you hold after a teaching, is within you. Only a change within you has occurred in the meantime. After all, two people can hear the same message -- one changes, one not. The difference is in the "will to change" and an openness/readiness to change. That is the internal force -- a flexible consciousness rather than an ossified one. Therefore, nothing outside of you has done the changing upon you. Someone may lead you to water, but YOU have to do the drinking ... if you're thirsty. I've been a teacher for 40 years. Some students get it, some not. Groundwork, readiness, and sometimes desperation are needed for transformation. No amount of telling, cajoling, forcing, demonstrating, even helping can do it.

Posted by: SCCC | Sep 1 2023 11:07 utc | 291

Posted by: Waldorf | Sep 1 2023 10:58 utc | 152
‘The Metro’ owned by The Daily Mail which still carries the strap line “We stand with the people of Ukraine” blissfully unaware that half the people of the former Ukraine no long stand with that former nation on account that their government has been shelling former Ukrainians for nine years now.
The Metro is so abysmal it has to be given away for free on the London Underground, littering most carriages with a mixture of msm propaganda, celebrity bullshit and sport distraction.

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Sep 1 2023 11:14 utc | 293

🇷🇺🇺🇦 ⚡️The head of the organization “GUR of Ukraine” Budanov said that the conflict should be transferred to the territory of Russia and that “the wider the operations, the better”
Imagine If a serbian or iranian Budalov would say something like the Ukraine Budalov towards the USA!?
The US government would take him out with his complete family by drone attack
What Kremlins re doing?
Nothing!
Moment chesswhiningmaster would address to nation with another whining speach

Posted by: SlowSoft | Sep 1 2023 11:18 utc | 295

But nothing is every going to get better until attention turns to people and the people get to be informed and change their habits and start to expect to be informed and learn how to inform themselves.
Posted by: arthur brogard | Aug 31 2023 22:45 utc | 86
The alleyway fight scene in ‘They Live’ springs immediately to mind
The majority of people would rather somebody else do the heavy lifting for them, and wrap up the complexities in a simple, easy to digest soundbite.. You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make it think.

Posted by: Rattus | Sep 1 2023 11:24 utc | 297

Posted by: SlowSoft | Sep 1 2023 11:18 utc | 156
The problem is Budanov, Podolyak, Danilov or Zelensky do not represent any Ukrainian. I mean, they, or anyone really Nato don’t give a darn if the center of Kiev gets turned into a parking lot, as long as they get to bomb Donetsk, Bryansk or Belgorod civilian buildings.
Russia doesn’t turn Kiev into a parking lot, but Kiev/Nato would turn Belgorod into a parking lot immediately if they do so. No one in the west condemns it, but everyone in the west would condemn Kiev as a parking lot.
As such, not caring a thing about Ukrainian people or economy, they can use all their resources in attempts to kill Russian civilians in Russian cities. Russia must use military to protect them, even as such it doesn’t contribute to SMO goals. Ukraine doesn’t need to use its military to protect Ukrainian civilians, actually, Ukrainian military uses their pop as shields, especially in early stage of SMO.
It’s a purely terrorist regime, which is why it’s all harder than a “normal” war. Nevertheless, the bulk of regular fighting is achieving SMO goals.
Kiev mobilizes RU population in Ukraine, it’s bad for sure. But there’s nothing RU can do about it, they must protect themselves regardless against Nato. Kiev has a freebie in the sense it gets to use Nato satellites to its advantage to send sneaky drones to hit this or that target in Russia, which requires always short range point-defense to protect any single target. Of course, the same applies also to Kiev.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 1 2023 11:32 utc | 299