Re: Posted by: Turk 152 | Aug 24 2023 19:45 utc | 91
I don’t view Erdogan/Turkey through a “myopic” lens and understand the complexity of Russia/Turkey relations and yes, gave a snap shot of at least one “commonality” of both leaders seeking to protect “remnants” of dispersed populations. Erdogan or not, I don’t see Turkey “blindly” following any nation.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 24 2023 20:27 utc | 104

Posted by: unimperator @ 102
Putin came out with a statement regarding their deaths. If they suddenly popped up alive he’d look pretty out of the loop, if not a fool. They are dead, but if not you will never hear of them again.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 24 2023 20:29 utc | 106

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 24 2023 20:23 utc | 102

Prigozhin is supposedly alive and in Mali.A number of African journalists are spreading reports of “eyewitnesses” who allegedly saw the head of Wagner PMC Yevgeny Prigozhin in Mali today.

In Africa all the palefaces look alike.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 24 2023 20:30 utc | 108

The wine box story smells like BS to me. The plane clearly had lost a wing at the getgo.
Explosives in the storage compartment small enough to fit in a wine box would not do that. Imo
AD or Stinger type weapon is more likely.
Posted by: Comandante | Aug 24 2023 15:16 utc | 15
I agree. The part of the wing attached to the fuselage contains a beam to which the landing gear is attached. An explosion powerful enough to destroy the wing beam would blow the fuselage to bits. i.e. the whole plane.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 24 2023 20:31 utc | 110

It was simply inevitable that two commercial pilots & and an air stewardess became deceased in the process, but the vast majority of the Russian people understand and indeed approve, because Fuhrer law is the highest form of law in any great civilization.
@ Ludov | Aug 24 2023 16:58 utc | 45
That’s one outstanding euphemism there: “became deceased.” You could also say they got smashed to pieces. Morticians speak of their charges “assuming room temperature.”
Simplicius doesn’t specifically mention the blameless flight crew, who have been on my mind (possibly because such a “highest form of law” leaves a terribly bitter aftertaste). But his summary on Prigozhin’s demise comes to the same conclusions as you, in much the same apologetic terms.
I’m not young, but every day I encounter new glories of modern civilization. I’m learning that nihilism is a very deep, swift, and powerful current.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Aug 24 2023 20:37 utc | 112

Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 24 2023 15:33 utc | 20
To me, this Syria story sounds like nonsense.
Prigo allegedly died in an accident in Russia, although he was a mutineer to Russia. A state criminal. But he flew wherever and whenever he wanted in Russia. Fly with many airplans. He had no problems in Russia.
It looks like there is a new donor in the game,
this source of money is sure not an African and 99.9% not Russia and it look like Russia wants nothing to do with this source of money.
Possible donors would be
* Turkey ( maybe 10% – the have other pmc )
* China ( maybe 5% )
* UK via Azerbaijan ( maybe 95% )
* ??

Posted by: theo | Aug 24 2023 20:40 utc | 114

Posted by: theo | Aug 24 2023 20:40 utc | 114
Very valid points. The simulacrum we are being shown has cracks all over.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 24 2023 20:43 utc | 116

Posted by: puke lord | Aug 24 2023 16:53 utc | 42

Once the war is over Ukraine can start to explore the rich oil and gas fields present in the east and sea areas

I am a petroleum geologist with extensive experience in the FSU – There are no rich oil and gas areas in the east of Ukraine or the Black Sea The gas fields of Dnieper Donets Basin stretching from Poltava to Donetsk are way past their prime and the Black sea has been reasonably well explored and little has been found. Wrong type of rock for shale gas.
Western oil companies are too busy with US shale (North American cos) or alternative energy investment (European cos) to bother chasing the small prizes on offer. Ukraine was keen on western oil investments during its 30 odd years of independence – no significant investment materialised

Posted by: Aslangeo | Aug 24 2023 20:46 utc | 118

If indeed this whole episode was not a masquerade the lineup of suspects run all the way from Putin’s office, through Whitehall all the way to Langley.
It’s as complicated as that.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 24 2023 20:27 utc | 103
Somebody made the point yesterday that if imperialism could just take planes out in Moscow, how has Putin not been assassinated yet?
Imperialism can send some harassing drones into Russia. That’s the extent of their penetration.
Honestly, I think it is pretty simple. Prig led a military mutiny in the middle of war with US imperialism. What country in history would let that slide?

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 24 2023 21:07 utc | 120

Re: “Regretfully, the Ukraine is a cemetery with an army – and soon just a cemetery.”
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 24 2023 20:19 utc | 98
Ouch!! True, but ouch… still every “Army” needs a laundry mat. Good post. Only adding the obvious, instead of Ukraines economy being “just a basket case” now with the US “help”… they’re completely bankrupt in 15 short months. At least 18 months ago, they could pay the SBU office light bill themselves, corruption & all… now look at them? And all that “Freedom” they have.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 24 2023 21:19 utc | 122

Ukraine is going to be more than fine once they cut the Russian cancer out.
Posted by: puke lord | Aug 24 2023 16:53 utc | 42
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Ukraine will never be fine, but the new Russian Oblast will have a bright future once they cut the Nazi cancer out. By the way, most of the oil and gas is located in the five New Russian Oblast. So, puke on that flea flicking dog.
Otherwise, have a good day.

Posted by: Ed | Aug 24 2023 21:20 utc | 124

No congressman wants to be on record voting for a war that eventually is lost or becomes unpopular as thats an instant political death sentence in US politics.

Ha! If only! They all vote for war, and they all get reelected.

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 24 2023 21:42 utc | 126

Ahenobarbus | Aug 24 2023 21:07 utc | 120
It seems that scenario is becoming more likely (I still defer to oldhippie’s admonition that all we can do at this point is speculate); I think Julius Caesar wrote in the Gallic Wars that “Fortune will often temporarily favor those for whom she has reserved an especially sharp punishment.”

Posted by: robjira | Aug 24 2023 21:50 utc | 128

If indeed this whole episode was not a masquerade the lineup of suspects run all the way from Putin’s office, through Whitehall all the way to Langley.
It’s as complicated as that.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 24 2023 20:27 utc | 103

If it walks like a duck, it quacks like a duck, and it waddles like a duck….
IT’s A DUCK!!!
So what is this Duck??
Most likely it’s as simple as poor quality fuel with light ends being transferred from one wing tank to another…. which created a static charge….. sufficient to create a spark….
that ignited the vapors above said fuel in an integral wing tank….
which over pressured the wing skin… which burst…. and….
tore the outer wing off…
Which is why the video of the falling plane shows an intact fuselage with stubby wings… and bent back empennage (tail) diving straight down…
Now… all you smart asses out there….
Prove me wrong….
I don’t want speculations…. if you claim a suitcase bomb in the wheel well…. how big… what would the damage be?? Is that damage consistent with the video of the falling plane???
You claim a SAM hit… I want to see ditto… where the damage would be…. consistency…
Whatever you claim…. prove your case…
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Aug 24 2023 21:53 utc | 130

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 24 2023 20:27 utc | 103
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Somebody made the point yesterday that if imperialism could just take planes out in Moscow, how has Putin not been assassinated yet?
Imperialism can send some harassing drones into Russia. That’s the extent of their penetration.
Honestly, I think it is pretty simple. Prig led a military mutiny in the middle of war with US imperialism. What country in history would let that slide?
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 24 2023 21:07 utc | 120
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I think you both underestimate the abilities of Western Intelligence. There are about 30 million people in Russia who do not like him, some even hate him. Getting a bomb on Prigozhin’s plane is not the same thing as putting one on Putin’s plane.
Also, I really don’t think that the US/NATO want to make a martyr out of Putin, they don’t know who they will get next.
But I don’t disagree with you guys either. This could have been a clean-up job, as I already stated on the other comment string. Eyes Wide Open! I was listing to Sullivan on the radio while driving today, he is saying that without doubt a Russian hit. He claims that he did it to show the world and the Russian’s that he is a tough guy. Sullivan said that Russia is run by a mafia government, this what mafia governments do: Has he ever read US history?
The point is that there has been no investigation yet, but the US Government already knows the fact, and I say, I just bet they do. A coup; yes. A color revolution; right on, but a martyr; not so much.

Posted by: Ed | Aug 24 2023 21:55 utc | 132

Ukraine is going to be more than fine once they cut the Russian cancer out.
Posted by: puke lord | Aug 24 2023 16:53 utc | 42
Well, I’d ask the people of Mariupol about that. Theyre having their city rebuilt from scratch by Russia. Also, why dont you ask the people of Crimea who or where they would rather be? Go on…give it a whirl mr Lord….you might be surprised.
Have a free drink at the bar on me…..for your efforts lol Cheers!

Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 24 2023 21:56 utc | 134

Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 24 2023 20:44 utc | 117
«Meaning now you have these mealy-mouthy “police operations” or SMO, or other “legal” terminology for really only optic and PR purposes that really amount to a “politically correct war” or not.»
“Politically correct war” is not even a new concept, it used to be called “bellum iustum” and the Roman Republic and Empire were both keen for PR reasons to claim that their conquests were all defenses of democracy or reactions to provocations.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_war_theory
https://core.ac.uk/display/200034123
“the evolution through centuries of the notion of bellum iustum over a period of more than 1,000 years of Roman history, from a magical stage to a religious stage, on to an institutional one, when it becomes the instrument of an imperial ideology.”
Anyways, thx for plodding me to update and educate myself on “legally acceptable wars” now. It’s definitely caught my attention.

Posted by: Blissex | Aug 24 2023 21:59 utc | 136

Posted by: MiniMo | Aug 24 2023 21:58 utc | 135
It wouldn’t be surprising that half of the Polish army is there under guise of volunteers. British soldiers were on the recon team planting the flag in Crimean shore.

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 24 2023 22:07 utc | 138

Posted by: Blissex | Aug 24 2023 19:40 utc | 89 ”
«”That’s one reason why the USA etc. no longer declare wars, but only “police operations”.»
Posted by: Shocked | Aug 24 2023 20:30 utc | 107
«Incorrect, the US no longer fights ” wars ” because officially declaring war in the US needs an act of congress.»
I guess that I wrote “one reason why” without realizing that someone could quote it without understanding it.
Anyhow I wonder why the Russian Federation or Argentina or the UK would need an act of Congress to declare war :-), or why ever Congress mysteriously decided not to make any since WW2, and the War Department was renamed Department of Defense.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 24 2023 20:51 utc | 119
«You left out the good part – and the Congressmen are more than happy to wash their hands of it and put the responsibility on the guy who rides off into the sunset after eight years.»
Contrarily to your imagination Congress did proudly take responsibility for electoral purposes and voted for some (first gulf SMO, 9/11 SMO, second gulf SMO most notably) AUMFs (Authorizations for Use of Military Force) which are declarations of war except in name. The 2001 AUMF was quite atypical though as it was a declaration of war against a behavior rather than a state.
They don’t vote on declarations of war because all who voted for it would then become war criminals even if the bill did not pass.

Posted by: Blissex | Aug 24 2023 22:18 utc | 140

BTW the RF declared a “Special Military Operation” as a response to the attack by the fascist ukranian government against their allied DPR and LPR because war is not just an international crime, it is also a crime under domestic law, and war propaganda too.
That’s also why it is also a criminal offense to call the SMO a “war” under RF law: it means accusing the Duma and the President of committing a crime, when that is clearly instead an SMO and not a war :-).

Posted by: Blissex | Aug 24 2023 22:22 utc | 142

Posted by: Ed | Aug 24 2023 21:55 utc | 132
Oh, I’m sure imperialism would be blowing up planes in Moscow if it could, but there is also a tendency based on their constant propaganda and nearly 80 years under their heel, to grossly overestimate the power of the wester RC.
Prigs overplayed his hand at the worst possible time. Anyone leading a military mutiny against its own government would pretty much know it’s a victory or death situation.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 24 2023 22:24 utc | 144

BTW the RF declared a “Special Military Operation” as a response to the attack by the fascist ukranian government against their allied DPR and LPR because war is not just an international crime, it is also a crime under domestic law, and war propaganda too.
That’s also why it is also a criminal offense to call the SMO a “war” under RF law: it means accusing the Duma and the President of committing a crime, when that is clearly instead an SMO and not a war :-).
Posted by: Blissex | Aug 24 2023 22:22 utc | 142
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There is such a thing as a “just” war, WW2 may have been the last one. Still, Russia is using the example created by the US/UK/and NATO in the Serbia/ Kosovo conflict. The US referred to the Vietnam War as a conflict; but I can’t remember the US using that term about Iraq or Libya?

Posted by: Ed | Aug 24 2023 22:37 utc | 146

Journalists urge to wait 24 hours for everything to clear up.
srochnow https://twitter.com/dana916/status/1694731773790302421
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 24 2023 20:23 utc | 102
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Thanks for the update, standing by.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Aug 24 2023 22:38 utc | 148

Such trouble in the ranks and top leadership is very common, and occurred with US President Roosevelt and US General Patton for instance ,and some say Roosevelt had Patton taken out via car-crash. US General Stillwell even had Chennault had Generallisimo Chiang Kai-Shek making trouble for him when the former was there to help him with the war against the Japanese. Roosevelt had to intervene many times .
Posted by: Wondrous | Aug 24 2023 16:00 utc | 28
While I can agree that tough Leaders often face stark choices. An Inuit, short of food, will kill one of the huskies to feed the others, including himself. Saddam, wiping away real tears, had friends taken out and shot. But FDR, would have preferred that McArthur choked on a chicken bone, not Patton. You might want to look for Eisenhower and Marshall fingerprints on the car.
However, if you are correct about FDR taking Patton out, it was a clever move, indeed, with FDR dying on April 12/45 and Patton taking his last breath on Dec 21/45.

Posted by: kupkee | Aug 24 2023 22:43 utc | 150

Not sure about elsewhere but here in the UK the Wagner incident has had a huge impact in the media. The hours of broadcast with wall to wall Russian experts, don’t laugh, has virtually eliminated most other new, in particular the increase in the size of the BRICS grouping.
If that had been an objective, it was pretty much achieved.

Posted by: JohninMK | Aug 24 2023 22:46 utc | 152

Posted by: Ed | Aug 24 2023 22:20 utc | 141
That is why it should be a priority to develop methods for disabling satellites in an effective way, most likely space based methods. Then conditions set to the US that US satellites must stay on the American side of the hemisphere and not enter Eurasian side.
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 24 2023 22:26 utc | 145
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Mein lieber Herr kein Kaiser. Them satellites follow an orbit when launched. Steering them around requires using the limited amount of fuel on board. So, they will be around as a PITA, until they fall to earth.
Same for Russia, China, India and whoever else.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Aug 24 2023 22:52 utc | 154

Question- Early in the SMO, Russia was having difficulties with entrenched defensive positions set up by Ukraine in the Donbas, where are those lines in relation to the current Russian positions?
Thanks in advance.

Posted by: PaulJ33 | Aug 24 2023 23:01 utc | 156

Re any AFU push towards Melitopol/Crimea.
I may only be a non-military lounge observer, but HOW IN HELL could the AFU ever push a salient that long and wide to cleve the present Russian held Donbass territory into two and think they could then hold it from flank attacks and being fully surrounded???? And besides — get to Melitopol, and then WTF? They’d have several Russian Armies slam on their heads from all directions. Even discounting the 3 lines of massive defences RF have prepared, it seems like a truly cockamaimy plan.
As any salient develops, it must double or triple the contact front length for ground troops. Brigade distribution gets halved per kilometre for both sides, but the attackers are at a distinct disadvantage because they are mobile, and out in the open, and towing many of their toys. For every km deeper the salient becomes, more and more attackers would have to flood in from its mouth (ie Zaporizhia area). Talk about a killing field. And that would mean Ukraine would need to rob other fronts of forces, causing new routs by Russia up in the north. Duh.
Even halfway to Melitopol, the AFU would be sitting ducks to massive aerial bombardment inside a big cauldron. Russia could still get supplies to either side of the salient anyway. The whole idea seems completely tactically absurd. It seems like my kindergarten logic can debunk it. Is that the level of NATO planning?

Posted by: SCCC | Aug 24 2023 23:03 utc | 158

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 24 2023 22:46 utc | 153
This sounds less like a feasible plan and more an assisted suicide.

Posted by: Milites | Aug 24 2023 23:11 utc | 160

Posted by: Ed | Aug 24 2023 22:37 utc | 146
There is such a thing as a “just” war, WW2 may have been the last one. Still, Russia is using the example created by the US/UK/and NATO in the Serbia/ Kosovo conflict. The US referred to the Vietnam War as a conflict; but I can’t remember the US using that term about Iraq or Libya?
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Yes, all true. And the US is always using Doublespeak as suits its propaganderous purposes.
But even an IDEOLOGICALLY JUST WAR should be fought justly. I believe that’s what VVP is trying to do, whereas Ukraine has had no moral justice to stand on since 2014.
Civilian bombing, be it Dresden or Donestk City or Hiroshima; cluster petal mines into towns; bio and chem and DU warfare; mistreatment of POWs; etc etc, all evidence the tactical immorality of Kiev and its supportive mates.

Posted by: SCCC | Aug 24 2023 23:19 utc | 162

The violently public nature of Prigozhin’s execution reveals a worried man with a worried mind.
Vladimir Putin’s previous killings were smaller in scale. Throwing oligarchs out of windows sent a message, but mainly to oligarchs and their friends and families.
Putin chose a spectacular public execution as a message to everyone – oligarchs, the armed forces, security services, any disaffected elements anywhere, and of course the Russian public, not to mention the West: cross me and you die.
What this suggests is that Putin is seeing enemies in many places, one of the signs of paranoia. This apparent paranoia should be a bit of a concern, especially since this man has his finger on the nuclear button.
What to do? The coming (or continuing?) purge of ‘disloyal’ elements may assuage Putin’s paranoia. Let us hope so.

Posted by: Mr B | Aug 24 2023 23:24 utc | 164

…from State
Imposing Sanctions and Visa Restrictions on Individuals and Entities Russia to Promote Accountability for Forced Transfer and Deportation of Children During Russia’s Illegal War Against Ukraine . .here
The US wouldn’t complain if Russia starved or bombed children, as the US has done in spades, with illegal war in many countries, so they complain about taking kids out of a war zone where the US is supplying cluster bombs.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Aug 24 2023 23:33 utc | 166

Posted by: Mr B | Aug 24 2023 23:24 utc | 164
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Oh fuck, talking about feeding the fleas! What do you say Tannhauser? Mr. B, you don’t have proof of any of the shit you just posted.

Posted by: Ed | Aug 24 2023 23:36 utc | 168

Posted by: Don Bacon | Aug 24 2023 23:33 utc | 166
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Good post Don, the truth is so obvious that it is embarrassing that a US president would play this card. I say pure desperation. The photo of the young girl running for her life when her village was being destroyed with Napalm by US forces in an illegal war is what comes to my mind.

Posted by: Ed | Aug 24 2023 23:44 utc | 170

unimperator @ 138

It wouldn’t be surprising that half of the Polish army is there under guise of volunteers. British soldiers were on the recon team planting the flag in Crimean shore.

If they really had 10k KIA then, yes, half the Polish army must be Ukraine, not all at once but maybe they are rotating them into the theater to season them. If NATO doesn’t do this then Russia will have the only battle tested army in Eurasia. Fun times dying for a bunch of sick fucks in Brussels but the grunts keep pouring in, maybe they prefer the rigors of the battlefield to family and work. Not everyone likes their family or their job.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 24 2023 23:45 utc | 172

Yeah, OK (/sniff), so there’s a lot of these theories on Prigozhin going around. (/sniff) But, (*rubs nose*) have we exhausted all possibilities? I mean — (takes a break to do a line of ‘The History Channel’) — it could also be aliens.
Aliens. Think about it. (/vee signs at my eyes then yours, then taps my temple)
Or we could all wait until more information is collected…

Posted by: titmouse | Aug 24 2023 23:46 utc | 174

President Putin.

Posted by: Suresh | Aug 24 2023 23:47 utc | 176

Remember all the troll parties screaming Putin is weak ‘cuz he let Prick-o-man live? Now they’re all on the Evil Putin Murder Plotter bandwagon with the rest of the MSM. My forehead is sore from all the facepalming.
Posted by: comrade simba | Aug 24 2023 23:47 utc | 175
Shadowbanned has been quite active the past week. He also called Putin weak for not executing Prigo.
I am sure he is elsewhere online, calling Putin a vengeful, bloodthirsty, paranoid thug for this act.
And today we get highly polished commentary from Mr. B, that I am sure will be repeated on US Sunday political shows ad nauseum.
1. Putin did it. Fer sure.
2. Putin is losing his grip and becoming paranoid, fer sure.
3. Putin’s friends better be careful, they might be next, fer sure.
4. If any of Putin’s friends think they could do better, contact your local CIA or MI6 liason, agents are standing by, ready to help…
..fer sure.

Posted by: UWDude | Aug 25 2023 0:10 utc | 178

@Petri Krohn | Aug 24 2023 18:38 utc | 72

The people who downed the Wagner jet are the very same people who downed MH17.

On the subject of the people who downed MH17, Vasily Prozorov has made two presentations
https://odysee.com/@No_One_Is_Forgotten:a/BOEING-1-ENG-(online-video-cutter.com):2
https://odysee.com/@No_One_Is_Forgotten:a/боинг2-(online-video-cutter.com):1
Like his earlier work on bioweapons, these talks are supported by documents.

Posted by: cirsium | Aug 25 2023 0:35 utc | 180

[about a crash]
In this type of situation, it is interesting to listen and read (russian) official communications carefully, correct me if necessary.
Certain details can or should attract attention, such as specifying that at least one of the victims has the head detached from the body. Since when is this type of detail officially communicated after a plane crash (although such decapitation or dismemberment is expected)? In compassion with the families of the victims?
Or the Prigo/Wagner’s “errors” mentioned by Putin in his first (and brief) communication on this subject.
Without closing the door to an operation led by the USA and/or vassals (or the ultimate maskirovka?;), here is my fav’:
it is, of course, the FSB washing away the affront while sending a clear warning to any candidate for another “march on Moscow”: you will be beheaded (and please, take time to watch and imagine yourself falling in your private jet, so high, so long).
The “passengers” were possibly the corpses of Wagner’s head (one of whom had already lost his head?+ better explains that they were together on one plane of the two?), the explosives were perhaps connected to an altimeter and the cockpit maybe empty?
On the other hand, the “maskirovka” hypotesis concerning the “march” of Prigo seems to take some “lead in the wing” as French says.
Only time and distance, will make it possible to see more clearly concerning this expected episode, because it was (for many).

Posted by: Tak-Tik | Aug 25 2023 0:54 utc | 182

https://t.me/readovkanews/64825

The moment of the destruction of the S-200 missile, with which Kiev tried to attack civilian targets of the Russian Federation
Residents of the Kaluga region upload footage to the Network, which, presumably, captures the moment of the destruction of the S-200 missile. It was with it that Kyiv tried to attack civilian targets in the Russian Federation today – it was shot down.

So Ukraine tried to attack Shaikovka and/or Moscow with S-200 rockets. Which are claimed to have been intercepted, but this is an extremely alarming event.
One of these seems to have been shot down over Obninsk, which is the last city before Moscow.
They had fired S-200 previously at Crimea and Rostov, but now this is striking at the heart of Russia. Assuming it is S-200 in the first place — those are supposed to have a range of 300 km, and this is quite a bit further than that from the border.
And of course the Kremlin will let it go.
And will allow Moscow strategic defenses to become accustomed to having ballistic missiles lobbed at them.
Which must have never ever ever been allowed to happen — one day it won’t be conventional warheads on these missiles if this is allowed to continue.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Aug 25 2023 1:08 utc | 184

Some videos for today.
RT follows work of Russian artillery in the LPR:
https://odysee.com/@RT:fd/kremennaya-lpr:3
Russian drone destroys another US-supplied Bradley:
https://odysee.com/@Overthrown:6/video_2023-08-24_03-05-21:8
Another video showing endless amounts of destroyed Kiev regime armored vehicles on the Zaporozhye front:
https://odysee.com/@Overthrown:6/4987807402624:9
Russian artillery destroys enemy tank on the Zaporozhye front:
https://rutube.ru/video/70ca1ab3098568be6b2505f5ec5795a4/
Russian assault helicopters destroy more enemy armored vehicles on the southern DPR front:
https://rutube.ru/video/f6ca33494dca031262ead1c4488158f8/
Russian Mi-28 and Mi-8 fire on enemy fortified position:
https://rutube.ru/video/248fbef87fa347f59050ef347a31b889/

Posted by: Nate | Aug 25 2023 1:24 utc | 186

Trubind 1 34
There are many countries with glorious and criminal pasts, not just the morally bankrupt Ottomans and the spiritually bankrupt Russian and Soviet empires. The world is full of them. France , Germany , Dutch, Celtic, Roman. Persian , British etc.etc.
Each of these expired criminal entities is full of renegades at leadership level who want Empire 2, and are prepared to make Faustian pacts with current superpowers to get bits of their empires back again. Erdogan likes double penetration, from Nato and Russisa. Okay apologies for filthy language, but there are no metaphors filthy enough to describe the lust of criminal has-beens for their former infamous/ glorious pasts.
Kurdistan’s role in removing the Ottomans in collaboration with Churchill, got them divided by perfidious Albion, who wanted Kurdistan to become a British colony exporting oil from Mosul. They got what they wanted eventually through poodling to Obama who made Daesh, whose base was Mullah Krekar and Kurdish political Islam.
Erdo happy no. He has stopped flights to Kurdistan using Turkiye’s air space.
Britain helped Erdo trash Azerbaijan under BoJo who is half Turkish.
The world would be a much happier place if criminals in power were not trying to get back their Empire # 01 s , which were taken down for good reasons by honest men and women in the past.

Posted by: Giyane | Aug 25 2023 1:32 utc | 188

Meanwhile, someone’s been spending money….. https://punchng.com/luxurious-villa-owned-by-ukrainian-president-volodymyr-zelenskyys-family-discovered-on-egyptian-coast/?amp

Posted by: Suresh | Aug 25 2023 2:05 utc | 190

osted by: Giyane | Aug 25 2023 1:32 utc | 188
Personally, I am not very impressed by Western “Democracy” happy talk. Ukraine, the great defender of Democracy against the evil dictator Putin. I am sure these slogans existed before our time too.

Posted by: Turk 152 | Aug 25 2023 2:16 utc | 192

Massive attack by Ukraine happening now. This is it. The BIG one. They are going for it.
Posted by: Comandante | Aug 25 2023 2:10 utc | 191
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Jeez I wish people would include links to these latest real time updates. Not everyone watches the same little obscure sources that you might. And RT,RIANOV,TASS,YT, News channels, etc, only update once a day. As well, half the world is asleep (or should be) when exciting news breaks. And don’t tell me to scour TG by the minute, cos I don’t/won’t. 90% of it is made up shit. If you post on MoA make sure it’s not just TG gossip by citing a reliable source, please.

Posted by: SCCC | Aug 25 2023 3:10 utc | 194

Massive attack by Ukraine happening now. This is it. The BIG one. They are going for it.
Posted by: Comandante | Aug 25 2023 2:10 utc | 191
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Or are you just over-egging the 83 IFVs and 6 tanks that Russia has seen grouping nearby for weeks. Is that what you are calling “IT”?

Posted by: SCCC | Aug 25 2023 3:24 utc | 196

Posted by: Comandante | Aug 25 2023 2:10 utc | 191

Massive attack by Ukraine happening now. This is it. The BIG one. They are going for it.

Well then it’s over for the AFU if they decided to blow the whole load in one go.
Because, after that, the main body of the RF goes in and it’s curtains for NATO.
Big arrow attacks these days are suicide. It’s hard to believe the AFU don’t know.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 25 2023 3:29 utc | 198

Turk 152 192
Turkish TV soap operas always have the bad guys getting punished and the good guys getting rewarded, while in Western democracies TV soaps the message is always reversed, the bad get rewarded and the good get punished.
MoA is like the first, the bad Nazis constantly get trashed and Putin gets more popular. The Western democracies have been trained by Zionist TV to expect the Nazis and Ukrainian corruption to pull through and win and evil Putin to get his comeuppance.
A whole new generation of youngsters refuses to watch Zionist morally manipulated tripe and they reject Western Democracy in which the police protect business and house owners, and persecute the homeless.
If you continually feed people rubbish, they will inevitably search for other sources of moral sustenance . Inshallah.

Posted by: Giyane | Aug 25 2023 3:43 utc | 200