That was Plan A. We now are working with Plan B, or maybe Plan C.
Posted by: Ed4 | Aug 6 2023 19:19 utc |
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Sorry Ed4, but I do not accept your hypothesis about Plan A. Russia declared it a faint to allow other forces in the south to move forward while Ukraine forces were sending forces to the City of Kiev. A faint requires realism, or it won’t work. The idea was that Ukraine President Zelensky would come to the negotiation table, which he did, but the US and UK prevented any real negotiations because they wanted this war.
Putin did not wat a war, you cannot conquer a country the size of Ukraine with 90 to 105 thousand troops: it is impossible.
Plan B was the mobilization is the new mobilization of the 300,000 plus forces and the Wanger forces, after realizing that there was no one to negotiate with. Notice that the front line of the war (SMO) remains on the border or inside the borders of the four oblasts that voted to join the Russian Federation.
Plan C may require that Russia take Odessa and Kiev, but this will require another mobilization. After enough drone attacks against Moscow, St. Petersburg, and Crimea, the people of Russian will sign up in droves. Zelensky has no idea what he is doing and the drone attacks are an act of desperation.

Posted by: Ed | Aug 6 2023 20:04 utc | 103

Demilitarization & Denazification without occupying Nazi infected territory?
What re u smoking?
Kremlin SMO wheed?
Imagine Stalin, Churchill & Roosevelt would ve „demilitarize“ & „denazify“ Nazi Germany by 5d Chessmaster SMO! ?
No Monseigneure u ve to grab first the Territory eliminate ALL nazis and nazi supporters. Later u set up a kind of marshal plan reeducate the brainwashed population and slowly in waves give them back the territory
But ok let’s just follow 5D Sado Mado Operation and ser where it leads us next 18 months

Posted by: SlowSoft | Aug 6 2023 20:13 utc | 105

@ Boris Badenov | Aug 6 2023 19:52 utc | 100
LOL! Thank you for adding some perspective to one of the worst comment threads I’ve ever seen on this site. (Although Dr. Oprisko reproduced some valuable commentary.)

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 6 2023 20:17 utc | 107

No Monseigneure u ve to grab first the Territory eliminate ALL nazis and nazi supporters. Later u set up a kind of marshal plan reeducate the brainwashed population and slowly in waves give them back the territory
But ok let’s just follow 5D Sado Mado Operation and ser where it leads us next 18 months
Posted by: SlowSoft | Aug 6 2023 20:13 utc | 106

Correct about the first part. Wrong on the latter. There can be no giving back of territory. This will never end without also DEUKRAINIZATION.
Because at this point there cannot be any concept of “Ukraine” that is not on a Nazi and virulently anti-Russian basis. It has to be squashed and extinguished.
Further, after that there has to be an active campaign on the diaspora leaders in Canada, US and the Europe, the way Israel’s secret services were going after the Nazis in South America for decades. Hunt every single one of them down mercilessly until there is no organized resistance outside what is controlled by Russia.
The KGB for some reason stopped doing it after they got Bandera in 1959 and never really went after anyone in Canada. Big mistake, for which hundreds of thousands are paying with their lives now.
But if the Soviets didn’t take care of the problem, how do we expect the current neoliberal traitors, who betrayed the country countless times in the last 35-40 years, and were also ready to hand Crimea back to Ukraine last March, to do it?

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Aug 6 2023 20:25 utc | 109

ahh can’t you shut up a bit? I mean those piggie squeezies are really too loud 😀

Posted by: Macpott | Aug 6 2023 20:33 utc | 111

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Aug 6 2023 20:27 utc | 111

.. bring that infamous endless convoy and park it outside Kiev.

May be – would not estimate what would follow therafter, so ..
What “Wagers” would have a “say” crossing this BELARUS / UKR borders interests line ..?
Beyond:
The “war” seems no going ahead to a NAVAl-War by sea-drones in the Black-Sea areas.
That’s not yet a good sign for RF ! (Another one Flag-ship, one civil-ship destroyed).
How to get “control” over the Black-Sea, even steadily watched by US-Radar-Plane ?
That’s very difficult for RF! USA forces plan an attack on 6 ! Russian Naval/Navy Stations!
So, what’s about Cuba/Florida, NOW ? .. or Philippines US Bases , or Ramstein/Germany ..?
Think about- Mr. Biden, sorry you cannot, so pls. let think about : YOUR LA. , YOUR Friso, Boston, etc.
Please think ..

Posted by: spare_truth | Aug 6 2023 20:49 utc | 113

@ Posted by: English Outsider | Aug 6 2023 16:51 utc | 35
Th problem with Ireland is that British people think it’s any of their business. When the British bugger off the Irish will have to sort things out for themselves.

Posted by: Squeeth | Aug 6 2023 20:50 utc | 115

The enemy threw tanks to break through our defense on the flank near Artemovsk
This morning, on the northern flank of Artyomovsk, from the side of the Berkhovsky reservoir, our landing force noticed the advance of a column of APU equipment from 4 tanks and 6 armored vehicles.
As a result of the work of our artillery and reconnaissance, 4 tanks and 5 armored vehicles were destroyed. The rest hastily retreated.
All morning, the destruction of the remnants of the surviving enemy infantry, which fled across the landings, continued.
Also, the Ka-52 “Alligator” attack helicopter supported our troops in repelling the morning counterattack, destroying a tank and an infantry fighting vehicle.
Then the enemy on two armored personnel carriers tried to evacuate and was covered by fire.
https://twitter.com/djuric_zlatko/status/1688298782251732992

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 6 2023 21:22 utc | 117

The RF-UKR “war” is now going towards another tactical region, caused by the USA-MIL commanders and its currently underlying UKR deputies commanders.
That is the Black Sea, now. US-Radar-Sats have focused on each square-meter where the Russians still operating. Daily-Night-Time does not matter (both, RF and UA soldiers being equipped with a good night-view). But the problem for RF is that they are more & more attacked in their frin-line strongholds by US-made high-precision HIMARS rockets that have been fired a long distance before the combat line (max 70 km), so the RF ground radar systems cannot detect them in an early required state before the final strike.
The “distance” is always a matter of success. Short-range is godd – others not.
Therfore the “Wagners” are obviously moving ahead Northern UKR border, and the Eastern Polish border.
Let’s see what may happen on “this side” of the ever ongoing war US/UK <> RUSSIA !

Posted by: spare_truth | Aug 6 2023 21:28 utc | 119

The West has now resorted to outright lying and making false statements, now that the counteroffensive has clearly stalled out.
“Ukraine breaches Russian first line of defense” blares a fake-news headline in Yahoo. On closer look, it is straight from the UAF defense minister, who is making shit up.
Seems we have a new phase of the liar-offensive. I guess deceiving their own citizens and feeding them BS is all they have.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Aug 6 2023 21:33 utc | 121

to both irish al and English Outsider | Aug 6 2023 16:51 utc | 35 …
What’s the poit of bothering about “Ireland” (north or south) at all?
The republic has thrown away its neutrality to become a NATO puppet, and prior to that its sovereignty to become a region of ‘Brusels’. The “UK” is no better, whether brexit or not.
Two arselicks of the US-empire having a squabble?
There’s really no point, since they’re both uttely rotten.
At least the Irish Republic has Daley and Wallace; Britan doesn’t even have that.

Posted by: Cynic | Aug 6 2023 21:43 utc | 123

Dr. George W Oprisko | Aug 6 2023 19:22 utc | 88

There is much ado about NATO/USA security guarantees, their forcing the Russians into ceasefire agreements, and other such….
Aurilen continues….
Which explains the current sham…

Blablablablahhh

…mend it highly enough.
I concur…
INDY

It’s real shame YNDY, cos, there’s logorrhoea and then there are your succinct missives !

Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Aug 6 2023 21:53 utc | 125

Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 6 2023 21:37 utc | 123

.. Yes. And the lying offensive will get worse as it becomes clearer theyre losing. Theyre running out of ideas now. Everything has failed ..

Slowly – running off ideas is on both sides.
– UKR is running off its ideas due to a senseless of “no lands” forward storming, then in open-fields being destroyed.
– RF is running off their equipment on the small attack drones (Lancets not usable for near-shots on enemy’s artillary).
So both, RF + UKR bataillons have a problem that lead to stick on current front lines without moving some miles forward & retreat.
This situation is tactically still in favour of the RF forces, even having less man power for direct combat fightings when UAF men advance ‘foot-by-foot’ ..
So see, how the ‘Black Sea War’ will go on .. another war-ship, another civilian-ship, another oil-reservoir will or won’t be destroyed by the USA!

Posted by: spare_truth | Aug 6 2023 22:02 utc | 127

Posted by: spare_truth | Aug 6 2023 22:02 utc | 128
One thing that’s strange is the amount of those old Soviet D-20/D-30 tubes that are still daily in RU MOD reports. But it seems they could be less, and replaced more with stuff like Polish Krab, M109 Paladin and M-777 getting larger share of destroyed stuff.
The thing is, Ukraine had such a massive arsenal of those Soviet tubes to begin with that US simply can’t replace them very quickly. US is giving peanuts compared to what they lost in artillery. M109 Paladin and M-777 are the main product, but some months ago there were claims that US has started giving smaller and less effective 105mm guns as there isn’t very many 155mm based.

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 6 2023 22:08 utc | 129

young | Aug 6 2023 17:20 utc | 48
***The USA will become totally broke…
No it won’t be — at least not in the short to medium term…
Cynic | Aug 6 2023 21:55 utc | 127
Currently we have a gov that has debt financing baked in the cake (ongoing deficit spending), plus we routinely have old debt that has to be recycled. The functional equivalent of bankruptcy will occur when we run out of borrowers. That we can “print up money at will” simply isn’t true. And for those who claim otherwise, I ask why we keep borrowing money and enduring the interest expense on the borrowed money?
Anyway, the credit agency Fitch has downgraded federal debt from AAA to AA+. A tiny reduction, but something that Fitch would do only with great reluctance owing to political pressure. In my view anyway, the apparent reason for the reduction is that Fitch thinks there is some real credit hazard to our gov debt and they don’t want to be caught rating it AAA should our credit rating start going south. If our credit rating starts to slip a little more the government won’t be able to do a thing about it because the downgrade by itself weakens the governments credit rating owing to the higher interest rate expense.
Our government’s ability to borrow will get in trouble when the borrows start to get nervous, and that is somewhat emotional. Thus there is no truly adequate way of knowing when a financial breakdown will occur, so I make no timing prediction, but I do predict we are headed for one and that it will be a hell of a mess when it hits. I am guessing it won’t be soon enough to effect the Ukraine war, but that is not a certainty. Also, it could be triggered by financial trouble that occurs in Europe first and spreads.

Posted by: Jmaas | Aug 6 2023 22:27 utc | 131

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Aug 6 2023 15:22 utc | 16
This guerrilla campaign that would defeat Russia is a fantasy.
Yes. I recollect Scott Ritter pointing that out a long time ago. Any formed body of men wouldn’t survive. Any base, however minimal, would be detected in no time. Bandera would actually have quite a tough time today, were he to use the same methods as then.
What we saw in Ireland was not that. Nowhere near. And yet some 3,000 fighters kept an army busy and the Security Services at full stretch. The intention not to “defeat” militarily. The intention to disrupt.
We’ve seen some of that in the Donbass. But the population there is mainly Russian or pro-Russian so no sympathetic mass of people to melt back into. Further west that would not be the case. It’d be a real security headache and not one the Russians would want to have to sort out, as they would have to were there a permanent occupation.
Sleboda reckons that remnant Ukraine will remain “”a zone of destabilisation and insecurity to the rest of our lives.” That’s what NATO was aiming for with the talk of a DMZ, and a remnant Ukraine beyond that NATO could continue to supply with arms and long range weapons. That’s really what “as long as it takes” means.
I don’t believe the Russians will fall for that. Not now they’ve come this far. They’d end up with much the same problem on their border as they had before 2022. I don’t think they’ll put up with a “zone of destabilisation and insecurity” that close. And most of the real hard line ultra-nationalists will be dead or living elsewhere in any case.
So it’s likely the Russians will set up some arrangement that allows them to check there are no arms coming in and that allows them to ensure there’s no more mayhem – because there are more minorities than the Russian, very many more, and the Russians won’t want to see sectarian or inter-ethnic violence get out of hand.
You see suggestions that the Russians should let the Poles have remnant Ukraine, or let the remnant be given to the various countries on the borders who have a claim on this or that bit of territory. It’s be a solution of sorts but do you think it realistic? I don’t. The loss of face for NATO if it ended up like that would surely be difficult to take.
Anyway, however it’s done I do think it likely that the Russians will ensure remnant Ukraine is defanged one way or the other. The real post-war problem they face is getting those December 2021 European security demands met. That’s a difficulty on quite another scale and we Europeans will soon be looking on anxiously to see whether that’s going to be done and how.

Posted by: English Outsider | Aug 6 2023 22:41 utc | 133

Yes, kupkee, but is Russia gonna win in 6 months, 9 months, or 7 months, 2 weeks, 4 days, and 13.044 minutes. We “concerned” users demand to know!1!!!

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 6 2023 23:04 utc | 135

@ shadowbanned, §117:
For once, I agree with you. “The Ukraine” is indeed a total invention: of the victorious Prussians and Austrians at the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk, 1917.
So in 1941, another fellow thought it was his “Lebensraum”

Posted by: John Marks | Aug 6 2023 23:19 utc | 137

I guess it hasn’t dawned on some yet. It’s not Russia stuck with the Ukraine war, it’s Maerica. Russia has virtually no sovereign debt, an economy that makes things and has huge quantities of raw resources and one of the most educated workforces on the planet.
The longer this drags on, the more Maericas reputation is shattered and her real economy distorted. Her weapons lying smouldering across the battlefields, like so many broken toys. Big talk from a deluded old man who can hardly walk any walk, hiding behind Ukraine. ‘WE WILL DO WHATVEER IT TAKES!’ they cry, the chicken hawk cowards. ‘But no..not that’ they say. Not F16. Not actual involvement. No, Ukrainians have been Maerican patsies in this war and they are starting to notice. I cannot imagine they will be grateful.
Meanwhile those financial nuts keep a roasting. What’s-her-name flys out to Beijing begging to get the Chinese to buy US government securities. Maybe they can get Europe to buy some. Ha. Ha.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Aug 6 2023 23:22 utc | 139

Trust me it has finally dawned on the Maericans which is why their little get together in Riyadh has such a desperate air to it.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Aug 6 2023 23:25 utc | 141

@ Doctor Eleven | Aug 6 2023 23:22 utc | 140
Love your comments—but am curious as to why you type “Maerica” instead of “America.” Some spellings I csn figure out—like Amerikkka—but not yours..,

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 6 2023 23:25 utc | 143

I had given this warning way back in 2008. It was not so difficult ult to predict but Putin and his anglophile cabinet ignored the obvious red flags.
Putin useless
2008
Mr. Putin -there is not much time left. Anglosaxon pirate race like English and Americans are spreading their evil design like wild fire on this world, 2020 is too late. Russia has to prepare for coming world war 3 imposed on it by England and run by USA. Russia must ally with China and Germany to destroy England the primary seat of evil.
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  4th June, 2007.
 President putin is wrong when he says that russia should or will target the missile on europe if america goes with anti missile defence plan in Europe.
Russia must target (rather than should) the nuclear missiles with multiple war heads against all the cities, towns and big villages( including military instalations) of england because this cold war -like the  one before- is being started by england for the benefit of english race only-.it is race war between the english parasite race versus the rest of the world-the sooner the rest of the world realizes that better it is for the world.
look how germany wes villified soon after fall of soviet union-look how russia is being vilified immediately  after Putin made russia strong.
  
such is the evil propaganda of british  spies inside america.  .
poland is nothing but a proxy for the british parasites.
It is no use targeting poland -target the main villain which is england and the english race which must be annihilated from the face of the world.
PAS AMERICA IS TRYING TO DO AND THEN RUSSIA WILL BE =DESTROYED AS IS THE VERY INSTEDSION OF USA?
RUSSIA MUST NOT LET USA SCORE3 ANY MORE POINT ANYWHERE LET ALONE IN IRAN OTHERWISE RUSSIA IS FINISHED EVEN AS A COUNTRY .
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iran and russia.
If russia follishly stop busher plant work or does not support iran a=verses the west then russia will be doomed as well because then resurgent west ,which has ben ploting against russia too,will have ecicircled and weakned russia.and russia will have no friend to look to when it is under pressure from the west.
thertefore russia must support all the countries who have stod fagainst angloamerican evil -only by this method russia and other countries can maintain their indepdence.
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Has putin been neutered now after anglosopnsored protest agasint his rightful convincing win int eh election?
Seems so.
26th October 2012- he thinks that giving board membership to his british enemy  will bring transparency ?
The same BP of gulf of Mexico oil spill fame BP representatives on Rosneft board will provide extra transparency – Putin
The presence of BP representatives on the board of directors of Rosneft will provide extra transparency for the Russian oil company, President Vladimir Putin said on Thursday. “If there is a representative of a major shareholder there on the board of directors, that will provide additional transparency to the activities of our largest oil company,” Interfax quoted him as saying. He made the statement at a meeting with members of the Valday international discussion club.
6th November 2012—
this lavrov in foreign ministry is an useless man who should be kicked out by Putin and Sergei Ivanov -former defense misnter in 2006- be made foreign minister or prime minister by kicking out traitor medvedev too.

Posted by: Sam | Aug 6 2023 23:26 utc | 145

@ Jmaas, §132:
Yes, the whole point of the exercise now is to make sure we, the taxpayers, are the bag-holders.

Posted by: John Marks | Aug 6 2023 23:30 utc | 147

@ team10tim | Aug 6 2023 23:30 utc | 149
Either they fire the nukes and hope for the best, or they face court-martial for insubordination and lose access to the country’s Number One gravy train.
The choice would seem obvious.

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 6 2023 23:39 utc | 149

Posted by: Ed | Aug 6 2023 20:04 utc | 104
Yup, understand you don’t believe it. But I do. In addition these things fill out a little more of the puzzle — for me.
Rosgvardiya soldiers testified in Russian court that their orders were to patrol the streets of Kyiv after it fell when they arrived in February 2022. “The task of our detachment was to guard the streets and intersections of Kyiv.”
https://twitter.com/PjotrSauer/status/1530181502398611456
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/27/115-russian-national-guard-soldiers-sacked-for-refusing-to-fight-in-ukraine
https://www.ft.com/content/7a63fc25-2e34-4030-b957-81a1500b7012
Then I looked at what happened in the south of Ukraine in the opening days. They made a half-hearted effort to take Mykolaiv. It wasn’t just that, they went further north and briefly captured Voznesensk. The goal being to find a crossing of the Bug. And a crossing of the Bug would be needed to push further west to Odessa. In none of the actions in the south did they have enough troops to defeat an actual resistance.
What the above meant to me is that they were trying to flood the zone. They had troops in the capital, Kyiv. They were trying have it look like there were Russian troops everywhere already, so Ukraine wouldn’t fight. But since Ukraine did fight, Russia didn’t have enough troops in most places.
Anyway, that’s the way I look at it.

Posted by: Ed4 | Aug 6 2023 23:54 utc | 151

Posted by: Sam | Aug 6 2023 23:26 utc | 146
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Sam, you are just full of ideas, but little understanding, for example you say you said in 2007 that: “Russia must target (rather than should) the nuclear missiles with multiple war heads against all the cities, towns and big villages( including military installations) of England because this cold war -like the one before- is being started by England for the benefit of English race only-.it is race war between the English parasite race versus the rest of the world-the sooner the rest of the world realizes that better it is for the world.: ”
You also claim that you said in 2008 that: “I had given this warning way back in 2008. It was not so difficult to predict but Putin and his anglophile cabinet ignored the obvious red flags…and that Putin [was] useless.”
Sam, do you really think that Russia was in a position to “take out the nuclear missiles with multiple war heads” in 2007 and 2008? If so, you are a fool.
In 2008 Russia had a skirmish with Georgia over South Ossetia. Russia came out on top, but only by the skin of their teeth. Russia realized that they were (at that time) no match for an Eastern State like Georgia or Ukraine trained by the US/NATO. They have been preparing for war with NATO ever since. But you wanted Russia at that time to start a war with all of NATO and the US by attacking their nuclear bases and systems.
Are fucking crazy, or what?

Posted by: Ed | Aug 7 2023 0:00 utc | 153

Talking about Totalen Krieg, they ain’t kiddin’.

The Ukrainian National Guard in Kherson received an order to set up roadblocks, deliver all males caught to the SBU and kill anyone who tries to resist
Looking good
For those who are lacking in text interpretation skills, allow me to digest everything for you:
The document is addressed to the commanding officers of the 16th Separate Battalion of the National Guard of Ukraine (Unit A3056), deployed in the city of Kherson.
It starts by describing the issue that this order intends to address, which is the increased incidence of desertion amongst military ranks and evasion from mobilisation in the Ukrainian controlled part of Kherson.
It then proceeds to list a number of orders:
1 – set up roadblocks in multiple key areas and inspect everyone trying to leave
2 – Detain all males trying to leave and send them to the SBU
3 – organise firing points at these roadblocks
4 – commanders need to make it clear to their subordinates that weapons should be used against anyone who resists being stopped at the roadblocks
5 – report about the readiness to execute the plan by the 31st of July
6 – the execution of the orders is entrusted to the commanding officers in the battalion
I hope this helps.
Attached is a copy of a more accurate translation provided in the comments by a member of the xenophobic hate group NAFO, along with the original document
“>https://twitter.com/narrative_hole/status/1687503541726846985

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 7 2023 0:05 utc | 155

It is instructive to go back and revisit what Simplicicus was writing back in December. Many appear to have forgotten. But I haven’t.
Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Aug 6 2023 20:11 utc | 105

Unless they are talking about some other site venue, Simplicius did not start posting on Substack until Feb this year. And so the “point” of the “memory” escapes me.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Aug 7 2023 0:20 utc | 157

Dima suggests the reason Ukraine doesn’t seem to run out of planes is that they are flying planes out of Poland. He thinks the Russians know this and just have to suck it up to avoid war with NATO:
Ukrainians Use SU-24 From NATO Territory
Until Russia is done sucking it up. It would explain much and might just explain the RF threat/escalation in Belarus. Unless the AFU collapses this war is far from over.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 7 2023 0:23 utc | 159

Ed4 @ 155

If Biden ordered a strike on Russia without Russia having just done something significantly bad it would be an illegal order and the military is unlikely to obey it.

Back in ’62 it was LeMay and the Pentagon that wanted to go all out with a first strike and the Executive (civilian side) stopped it. Maybe this time it’s the Biden neocon cabal that wants to go all out and the Pentagon will nix it.
What happens if the Pentagon and the Executive want to go all out?

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 7 2023 0:33 utc | 161

Ukraine has a few Soviet era SU-24 planes that it uses to launch British and French long range missiles to Russia. Though the known airports from where they operate have been targeted, US built fortified hangers have protected Ukie planes. Russia can use cluster munitions on and around these hangers to make them unusable for a while. Then use high altitude long endurance drones to observe any plane movement and dive on them.
In the long run, Russia needs long range air to air missiles to take down any plane that takes off from Ukraine.

Posted by: Jason | Aug 7 2023 0:45 utc | 163

Dima suggests the reason Ukraine doesn’t seem to run out of planes is that they are flying planes out of Poland. He thinks the Russians know this and just have to suck it up to avoid war with NATO:
Ukrainians Use SU-24 From NATO Territory
Until Russia is done sucking it up. It would explain much and might just explain the RF threat/escalation in Belarus. Unless the AFU collapses this war is far from over.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 7 2023 0:23 utc | 160

Unless they hug the Romanian border (which they can’t do if they are flying from Poland and landing quickly to refuel inside UA, because the airfields are not on the Romanian border), an S-400 or MiG-31s with R-37Ms in the southwestern corner of Belarus should be able to take care of the problem. So why is that not being done?

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Aug 7 2023 0:50 utc | 165

@ Jmaas, §132:
“Yes, the whole point of the exercise now is to make sure we, the taxpayers, are the bag-holders.”
Posted by: John Marks | Aug 6 2023 23:30 utc | 148
You already are the bag holders of US treasuries as the private sector and households hold the treasuries. The US treasuries are a household and business ASSET.
They are in our pensions and our saving portfolios to help offset risk against stocks. Rather than hold $’s we prefer to hold US treasuries as they provide interest to us. A $ with a term and a coupon attached.
So think it through logically.
Where do WE get the $’s from that WE then swap for a US treasury ? Mars, Venus , Pluto ?
NO! Read a $ before you swap it for a bond. It is written in very simple English on both sides of the note where you got it from. The US government gave YOU the $ that you are about to swap for a US government bond.
It is nothing more than an ASSET swap. The FED will do this
Reserve account held at the FED ———–> to a treasury account held at the FED.
That ASSET swap is what “idiots” call government borrowing framed in a way by the war mongering propagandists to make you think the government is a like a household. They have to borrow to ” find the money ”
It’s not even a funding operation. I’ll explain why below.
The government SPENDS first and nearly ALWAYS in its entire history runs deficits. Puts more $’s into the US economy than it takes out of the economy via taxes.
Why ? Why does it do this ?
To meet YOUR savings desires. To meet businesses savings desires and to meet foreigners savings desires. To allow EVERBODY to save in $’s.
Who Then if they want to go to a bank and sit down with a financial advisor and ask how can I earn more interest than just have these $’s. Or how can I build a savings portfolio and balance my risk. How can I earn a pension.
Swap the $’s for bonds.
The Government spending came first the bond sales came second.
The government spending came first the collection of taxes came second.
The government gives YOU the $’s to be able to do both.
Japan and China sell Americans stuff they get $’s.any excess $’s they can’t use or exchange they swap for US treasuries.
Government borrowing (when they swap a reserve balance for a bond) is a reserve DRAIN that allows the FED to hit its overnight interest rate.
When the government buys bonds ( swaps a bond for a reserve balance) that is a reserve ADD that allows the FED to hit its overnight interest rate.
At the end of each day after millions of transactions between banks and thousands of loans between banks. Some banks are short of reserves and some banks have way too many reserves. These have to balance to zero.
So the banks short of reserves and the banks that have too many reserves deal with each other to try and balance it out. If they can’t the FED will step in and either do a reserve ADD or a reserve DRAIN and either buy bonds or sell bonds to the banks. So it can buy its overnight interest rate target.
It’s called the overnight interbank market.
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/i/interbankmarket.asp
Why do currency-issuing governments issue debt? – Part 1
https://billmitchell.org/blog/?p=45106
Why do currency-issuing governments issue debt? – Part 2
https://billmitchell.org/blog/?p=45108
Fully Sovereign currency issuing governments DON’T need borrowers. They don’t need to attract anything. They ISSUE the fucking currency.
a) If they want to they simply supply the funds to the primary dealers if they want to.
b) Unless you have been living in a cave and missed the very simple fact they can simply buy their own bonds if they want to – like they did during the pandemic and Japan has been doing for at least 10 years.
c) Or simply run an intra day overdraft using the ways and means account if it wants to.
Zero trading in 10-year Japanese government bonds signals Bank of Japan supremacy ↓
https://billmitchell.org/blog/?p=50605
YES – you read that right ZERO trading in 10 year Japanese bonds. Zip, Nada, nulpwa, Zero.
Oh no , nobody wants to borrow Japanese bonds what On earth are Japan going to do. Oh no, because I’m stupid enough to have fallen for the Japanese government is like a household myth and Japan have to borrow to find Yen myth. Oh no, Japan will be bankrupt myth.
How many times guys, how many times do we have to go over this ?
If you want to slash the national debt can we start with your pensions and,savings portfolios first please and leave mine alone.
Or simply stop ISSUING US treasuries ( debt ). When the government can just move blips from one pocket to the other and simply buy the bonds themselves. Then there was simply no need to ISSUE them in the first place. Apart from giving welfare payments to the top end of town.
There’s no passing of debt to your children and grandchildren you are passing your ASSETS – the US treasuries you have saved all your life to your children and grandchildren when you die.

Posted by: Echo Chamber | Aug 7 2023 1:00 utc | 167

In the long run, Russia needs long range air to air missiles to take down any plane that takes off from Ukraine.
Posted by: Jason | Aug 7 2023 0:45 utc | 164

Russia has the most powerful such missiles in existence — R-37M. Mach 6 hypersonic, 400 km range. Outranges by a factor of 2x anything NATO has. It has been used widely during the war, but this is the VKS so opsec is top priority and you barely ever hear anything about those operations.
But these are still not unlimited capabilities — Ukraine is huge and it is more than 400 km wide even in the western portion, plus that 400 km range is the absolute limit and it assumes the enemy does not use any evasive tactics. Which they do.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Aug 7 2023 1:14 utc | 169

Re:
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Sleboda reckons that remnant Ukraine will remain “”a zone of destabilisation and insecurity to the rest of our lives.” That’s what NATO was aiming for with the talk of a DMZ, and a remnant Ukraine beyond that NATO could continue to supply with arms and long range weapons. That’s really what “as long as it takes” means.
I don’t believe the Russians will fall for that. Not now they’ve come this far. They’d end up with much the same problem on their border as they had before 2022. I don’t think they’ll put up with a “zone of destabilisation and insecurity” that close. And most of the real hard line ultra-nationalists will be dead or living elsewhere in any case.
So it’s likely the Russians will set up some arrangement that allows them to check there are no arms coming in and that allows them to ensure there’s no more mayhem – because there are more minorities than the Russian, very many more, and the Russians won’t want to see sectarian or inter-ethnic violence get out of hand.
You see suggestions that the Russians should let the Poles have remnant Ukraine, or let the remnant be given to the various countries on the borders who have a claim on this or that bit of territory. It’s be a solution of sorts but ” ” ”
Posted by: English Outsider | Aug 6 2023 22:41 utc | 134
= = =
Russia may allow Poland, and this way create a political time-bomb. When the dust settles, Germany politely, and in garden-like style, will ask for their lands given by Stalin to Poland. W.Putin did not clearly mentioned this lately, and even the “gift” phrase caused apoplexy. Attention in the future will be shifted to Stettin, Danzig und Breslau.

Posted by: LogosApplied | Aug 7 2023 1:23 utc | 171

@shadowbanned 163
The other thing that happened was that Putin had very obviously not planned for a war lasting longer than 6 months, and in typical Russian fashion had put off ordering a mobilisation until the front collapsed (which the coper brigade still try to pretend was 17D chess). The situation would have been much much worse but for the heroic 3 week defence of Krasni Liman by a couple of thousand LNR soldiers and volunteers against 8000 nazis which allowed the Russian regular troops desperately rushed from Moscow in the middle of the night* to dig in at Kremennaya.
*the same troops the ridiculous self promoting gasbag Martyanov claimed were being sent to conduct a brilliant pincer counterattack on the advancing nazis. 11 months later that counterattack is still nowhere to be seen.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Aug 7 2023 1:33 utc | 173

A catalogue of lies we’ve been told my the western MSM since February 2022 about Russia in general and the SMO in particular (not exhaustive):
1. The Russian MIC cannot manufacture semiconductors
2. Putin is a Dictator
3. Putin is Russia and “Russia is Putin”
4. Russia / Putin is Isolated from the global community
5. The Russian economy is insignificant and smaller than Italy/Texas/France/etc …
6. The Soviet Union was an Empire and Russia is seeking to restore it’s imperialism
7. Putin is a “Thug” and a “Murderer”
8. Russia is starving the world by withdrawing from the grain deal
9. Russia is running out of artillery/drones/tanks/men
10. Russia is salvaging microchips from dishwashers
11. Putin is dying from Alzheimers/Parkinsons/Cancer
12. Putin eats brains cooked by Prigozine
13. Prigozine was Putin’s Chef (literally)
14. Russian army is demoralised and bordering on mutiny
15. Putin’s inner circle is plotting a coup against him
16. Russian army is incompetent and poorly trained
17. Russian satellite coverage of the battlespace is poor
18. Russian army has poor targeting precision
19. Russia is deliberately targeting civilians
20. Russia has been making extensive use of cluster munitions since the start of the SMO
21. Ukraine has an artillery advantage over Russia (July/June 2023)
22. NATO tactics are superior to Russian battlefield tactics
23. Putin has a poor grasp of strategy
24. The Sanctions Are Working
25. The HIMARS Missile system will be a “game changer”
26. American drones will be a “game changer”
27. Byraktar will be a game-changer
28. F16s will turn the tide of the battle in Ukraines favour
29. X wonder weapon will “turn the tide against Russia” (I thought the tide was already in Ukraine’s favour from the start?)
30. X general/commander has been fired/sacked/discipled
31. X and Y generals have a personal rivalry that is affecting Russian battlefield performance
32. The Russian army is dependent on decrepit Soviet-era equipment
33. Drones will turn the tide in ukraine’s favour
34. There’s nothing special about Ukraine’s neo-nazi problem since neo-nazism is a worldwide problem.
35. There are no weapons bio-labs in Ukraine operated by the pentagon
36. The weapons labs operated in Ukraine by the pentagon are not a threat to Russia
37. Russia Attacked Ukraine Unprovoked
38. NATO made no commitment (written or otherwise) to not advance on Russia’s borders
39. The SMO has nothing to do with the NATO advancement in Eastern Europe
40. The SMO has nothing to do with the 8-year killings of ethnic russians in donbas
41. Cluster munitions are acceptable in Ukraine’s case since they’re in dire straits
42. Russian tanks are inferior to American tanks
43. Russian tanks are inferior to German tanks
44. Russian tanks are inferior to French tanks
45. The Russian army is the second most powerful one in the world
46. Putin is a Crypto-Jew
47. Ukraine cannot be a NAZI state because it’s president is Jewish
48. [Counter-Narrative Character Assassination] Alexander Mercouris is a convicted criminal
49. [Counter-Narrative Character Assassination] Scott Ritter is a paedophile
50. “X” pro-russian commentator has never been right (non of his predictions has come true)
51. “Y” pro-Russian commentateur is a convicted x,y,z (character assassinations)
52. The sanctions are working!
53. The Russian economy is in tatters!
54. Putin is losing support
55. The Ukrainian Counteroffensive (June/July/August 2023) is successful
56. Russia is firing S300 missiles into Poland (over Ukrainian airspace)
57. The Russo Ukraine war started in 2022
58. The Russian Army is using Human Wave attacks
59. The Russian Army is indiscriminately targeting civilians
60. The Russian army is using cluster munitions since the start of the war
61. Putin wants to expand the Russian empire into Europe (and beyond?)
62. Ukrainian Grain is key to solving world hunger
63. ‘International Law’ says x , y , z about the SMO
64. NATO is a defensive organisation
65. NATO has greater military power than Russia
66. Putin is in league with the Russian Oligarchs and therefore targeting the Oligarchs harms Putin

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 7 2023 2:30 utc | 175

There are a lot of Ukraine trolls that will be looking for new jobs soon. Maybe Z boy will let you trolls crash at his new $60 Million dollar mansion he bought this month in Colorado.
People are waking up to the ungrateful constantly begging Ukrainians. Time to cut them off and send all of their worthless racist criminal assess back to Ukraine.
The war is almost over, maybe another 100k dead Ukrainian fodder first. Maybe another Billion for Z before he bails out.

Posted by: Peace | Aug 7 2023 2:34 utc | 177

At some point there will be a general realization that insurgency tactics arent going to either win the war or undermine the Russian state in any meaningful way. That the only outsized impact they are having is hardening the hearts of Russians and providing a vain hope to those assigned to die for the meaningless greed of others far away. Brainwashed children marching into minefields for some faceless suit who cares nothing for them. Grist for the mill.
Then, belatedly and shamefaced, once all their schemes have failed and thousands and thousands of other people’s children have died and all their artifice and lies have COME TO FUCKING NAUGHT, like the lickspittles they are, the Maerican would be emperors will come to the high table. Perhaps they will learn a smidgen of humility, as would behoove them. I jest of course. Ghouls are not human.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Aug 7 2023 3:01 utc | 179

Posted by: Áobh O’Sheachnasaigh | Aug 7 2023 2:52 utc | 179
Post 14 by English Outsider

This is not a ‘land grab’ by Russia.

True.

They are taking back what is legitimately Russian land

False.

, and doing what is vital to insure their survival as a country and a people.

True.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 7 2023 3:29 utc | 181

Re: Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Aug 6 2023 21:33 utc | 122
There is an easy way for Russia to destroy the Western narratives on the conflict – and that is for Russia to go on the offensive and take Donetsk, Kherson, Nikolaev, Odessa, Sumy etc.
The fact that after 18 months they haven’t done this suggests they’re either not capable of doing so or not interested in doing so.
I still don’t know which of those it is.

Posted by: Julian | Aug 7 2023 3:31 utc | 183

You all need to do the math on this, Russia has grabbed Crimea a large portion of Syria and gained heavy influence in how many African nations?
It isn’t about Russian speaking people or Nato expansion, the Russians are expanding world wide at the expense of the west.
Keep an eye on Africa, Putin said they have plenty more African proposals to consider. I don’t think he would announce that to the west without a few moves to make.

Posted by: OohCanada | Aug 7 2023 3:45 utc | 185

There is an easy way for Russia to destroy the Western narratives on the conflict – and that is for Russia to go on the offensive and take Donetsk, Kherson, Nikolaev, Odessa, Sumy etc.
The fact that after 18 months they haven’t done this suggests they’re either not capable of doing so or not interested in doing so.
I still don’t know which of those it is.
Posted by: Julian | Aug 7 2023 3:31 utc | 184

This war is showing that it is hard to go on the offensive across farmland in modern times. Drones and satellites see vehicles and troop formations and then GPS guided bombs or GPS directed artillery guns can destroy them.

Posted by: Simon | Aug 7 2023 3:56 utc | 187

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 7 2023 2:30 utc | 176
Good summary, thanks.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 7 2023 4:05 utc | 189

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 7 2023 4:16 utc | 191
maybe empire wars? i mean the US is the main instigator of these conflicts, and it is trying to preserve its empire.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Aug 7 2023 4:34 utc | 191

Posted by: pretzelattack | Aug 7 2023 4:34 utc | 192

empire wars?

True, but then how would one distinguish any thread from the other … ?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 7 2023 5:01 utc | 193

@English Outsider
Interesting parallel between N Ireland and Ukraine.
I note the ethnic Irish Catholic community is now the majority in the province.
It may be instructive to ask how the majority of the English population would wish their government to react, in the event of a hypothetical future government, of an all Ireland, ethnically cleansing the ethnic British Protestant population of the North. That is outlawing their language and culture, leading to warfare for non compliance.
Note I am neither forecasting nor approving of such an occurrence.
We already know how team USA would react in similar circumstances, given its threat to invade Mexico, in the aftermath of a terrorist massacre of its citizens.
Full disclosure – I’m an Irish citizen educated in the North as a teen back in the 60s.

Posted by: necromancer | Aug 7 2023 5:27 utc | 195

Posted by: RB | Aug 7 2023 4:42 utc | 193
“Over 50% of Ukrainian citizens voted for Yanukovych”
So?
They didn’t vote to be massacred and raped by russians. For sure they will be driving them out eventually.. Just a question of time. Maybe it takes a death or two in Kremlin, like in the eighties, but inevitable is inevitable.

Posted by: Membrum Virile | Aug 7 2023 5:41 utc | 197

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 7 2023 5:46 utc | 199
Google Butcha.

Posted by: Membrum Virile | Aug 7 2023 5:59 utc | 199