The MoA Week In Review – (Not Ukraine) OT 2023-186

‘he’d be gunning to quell scientism’ suzan | Aug 7 2023 22:38 utc | 82
I take that to mean he was an honest scientist.
Thanks for your recent posts here. You, Juliania, Grieved, bevin and few others are the
reason I even bother to check in here anymore, what with all the Ukraine war porn.
The question is -> who is going to pay honest scientists to do their work?
Posted by: jinn | Aug 7 2023 23:03 utc | 83
The question is -> does honesty pay. I would answer yes, but in Western culture it surely has been devalued.
The rise of China, imho, is due to the change in the system of decision making from top-down to bottom-up.
That is similar to what Juliania wrote about education. When the people decide what’s best for themselves
there is a constant corrective input. The process science is one of constant correction, honesty a requisite.
When the claim is made that science is inadequate to explain truth or reality or is ‘running out of road’ to do that,
I see immediately that there is no alternative process offered. Metaphysical pursuits may make one feel good or
provide direction for some, and therein are worthy, but they seem to me to be ‘all over the map’.
Getting close to the edge of the ‘black hole’ or ‘bottomless pit’ there and outdoor work demands force me to stop here.
Another question, in closing -> if logic has limits, by what means other than logic can that be shown?
OMG, the prime mover has just kicked me out of the house! (Still, she’s a sweety:-)

Posted by: waynorinorway | Aug 8 2023 5:04 utc | 101

@karlof1
https://karlof1.substack.com/p/time-to-cancel-cancel-culture
Out of curiosity, and pardon me if I’m missing something, but how does the Mercedes-Benz ad relate to the column’s contents (besides the implied dichotomy between ‘left’ and ‘right’)? Thanks in advance.

Posted by: joey_n | Aug 8 2023 8:10 utc | 102

@Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 7 2023 22:24 utc | 80
The temperature rise is still there, here is the link to the 2-metre global temperature level. Setting new records every day and the El Nino is building.
https://climatereanalyzer.org/clim/t2_daily/

Posted by: Toger | Aug 8 2023 8:25 utc | 103

“pocalypsis 🅰pocalypseos 🇷🇺 🇨🇳 🅉
@apocalypseos
45m
Algeria, Argentina, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Belarus, Bolivia, Cuba, Egypt, Ethiopia, Honduras, Indonesia, Iran, Kazakhstan, Kuwait, Morocco, Nigeria, Palestine, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Thailand, the UAE, Venezuela and Vietnam have officially applied to join BRICS.
Aug 8, 2023 · 8:18 AM UTC“
The whole alphabet will soon be required to accommodate all the joiners! 😂
Not that I expect they will all be allowed to join by Russia and China, as many of these still stand on two stools and are likely to suffer greatly with groin strain if they don’t make a clear jump to the East/South.
Certainly wouldn’t let in the PetroArab artificial countries which have always existed as fronts for the Oil Companies and have militaries and even police run by the natzos from America and Europe. The police and military types, formed into so many private armies , who are wholly backed by the national ministries of their home nations;
Or the South American’s who double deal and shit on their neighbours who stand against the hegemony.
In fact the BRICS is now a failed project of the west to capture them , it is Not Fit For Purpose! We will likely see its zenith in South Africa shortly, thence to fall from that height. Just like the pathetic gathering in Saudi a few days ago by the same puppets and the egg on the face ECOWAS muppets, who will not be able to get Africans to put down Africans for the Old Colonialists any more. These western PMC’s are seeing the little worms turn! They better get out while they can. They won’t get away with their crimes and plunder.
Only the SCO/BRI awaits for true Multipolarity, every other institution including the UN has been wholly corrupted of its purported ideal of representing the whole of humanity. Having corrupted and bought the representatives sent to the flesh pot of NY, unable to resist the temptation (and threats) of the Big Apple presented to them by the Old Worms of the West!

Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 8 2023 9:39 utc | 104

OH NO, NOT DISEASE “X”! The UK government is developing vaccines at the high-security Porton Down biolab against a disease that isn’t yet a threat to humans.
[…]
The Porton Down lab is the same lab that featured in the Salisbury incident of 2018, when defected Russian intelligence worker Skripal was poisoned with nerve agent Novichok (“Newbie”) – allegedly by Putin’s men.
https://t.me/inessas1992/4434

—

Peter Hammill ‘”Porton Down” (1979)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy1w–obS8k
Won’t hear a sound at Porton Down
The clear liquids keep their silence
Buried underground at Porton Down
The fast form of the final violence
Quite right to be worried about the proliferation
Of nuclear bombs and power stations
But there’s a deterrent that’s going to
Unearth us yet…
Hurry on round about Porton Down
A quick glimpse of the future warfare
Hidden underground at Porton Down;
Far too frightening to utter what you saw there
They got bacteria to drop us where we stand
They got diseases still unknown to man
They got the virus and a microgram’s enough
To do in a continent
The ultimate madness
Just one shattered test-tube to wipe out the world
It begins with the mustard gas
It proceeds to Hiroshima
The culture moves on –
Now it’s bacterial, truly insane
Porton Down waits to fever the brain
Won’t hear a sound at Porton Down
The clear liquids keep their silence
Buried underground at Porton Down
The fast form of the final violence
Hurry on round about Porton Down
A quick glimpse of the future warfare
Hidden underground at Porton Down
Far too frightening to say what you saw there
No sound at Porton Down
No sound at Porton Down
No sound from Porton Down
No sound at Porton Down
No sound after Porton Down

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 8 2023 10:19 utc | 105

I have just read Putin’s economic plan on Karlof1 site.
I fail to see why people are getting excited about it. Niche market is mentioned a dozen times and competition is mentioned a dozen times. He’s talking out of both sides of the same mouth and saying different things. Fails to grasp the paradox of productivity.
Thinks human beings can be moved around the economy like ignots of steel and believes in the myth of the law of comparative advantage.
Ensures a group of humans are kept unemployed as this supposed drive for increased productivity that was mentioned a dozen times by interest rate targeting.
The BOE has missed its inflation target 107 times in the last 180 months. All central banks suffer from the same psychosis. How much longer before Putin accepts changing the base rate doesn’t work?
In summary what’s different than what the West is doing. Apart from Putin likes metal bashing compared with services.
Never understood the metal bashing argument a service business can license tens of thousands of copies all across the world with next to no distribution costs. That’s a far more efficient way of exporting than exporting real resources.
I certainly don’t go for the comparative advantage nonsense however. You need a multi-culture. If you can’t get diversity of supply you need to create at home. There is always a trade off between resilience and efficiency to get a sustainable cohesive economy that has low-coupling with the rest of the world.
But I see little difference between manufacturing and services. It’s an old fashion separation that really doesn’t hold that well in the modern world. It seems very clear to me that effective demand is the real source of power and not pump priming aggregate demand.
The vertical and horizontal monetary systems are linked. If the government runs a surplus, or runs too small a deficit to supply the surplus extracted by collectors of financial assets, then somebody has to issue the liabilities to be held as assets by financial wealth-collectors.
Generally this involves a lot of deposit-creation by banks. When you run out of opportunities for good lending you start to get bad lending. Thus fiscal ‘responsibility’ narratives and framing and spending and debt rules on the part of the government sets up the conditions for financial crises.
Stability creates instability – Minsky.
So it’s a question of who you believe should be in control. The people via representative democracy or the new Robber Barons consisting of the banks, their economist priest class who justify their autocratic rule via the tyranny of ‘business confidence’.
The vertical money bank lending system is not working very well. That’s why there are millions of people unemployed, underemployed and mis-employed all over the world. That’s a dozen cities worth of people suffering for no good reason whatsoever.
I’m sorry but really don’t see anything to get excited about.

Posted by: Echo Chamber | Aug 8 2023 11:10 utc | 106

All this improved productivity if it ever happens creates job losses.
It’s the whole reason of being a business to cut overheads and costs and become more productive. Eventually they are job destroyers not job creators.
Then What.. ?
If you think people can be moved around like ignots of steel and believe in the myth of the law of comparative advantage then there’s no problem at all.
But that’s not the real world and never was.
Just ask the people and communities who suffered terribly and still suffer today after Thatcher moved huge amounts of both skills and real resources out of ship building, mining and low end manufacturing into services and high end manufacturing on the belief people are like ignots of steel myth and the law of comparative advantage myth.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-myth-of-comparative-a_b_581814
China doesn’t fall for any of this crap.
Russia already has an Oligarch problem. I simply can’t see how Putin’s plan does anything other than increase that problem not reduce it. Create more monopolies or niche markets as he likes to call them.
Just pure dyed in the wool Conservatism.

Posted by: Echo Chamber | Aug 8 2023 11:28 utc | 107

The way get around it all is by introducing a job guarentee.
1. Tooth and claw competition. Real competition when businesses have to compete for workers. If they can’t compete they die.
That’s how you improve productivity.
2. Businesses can then no longer use the job losses argument when true competition is thrust upon them as the job guarentee catches all the job losses at a living wage.
3. The job guarentee doesn’t treat humans like ignots of steel and laughs at the law of comparative advantage. In the belief that on day they are metal bashers and the next day they are IT consultants.
The job guarentee takes people as who they are and where they live and pays them a living wage to bring up a family. Allows them to learn new skills so that one day they were a metal basher and in the future they could be an IT consultant. Allows humans to transition to different sections of the economy more easily. In work supporting their family – rather than on a welfare pittance and being shuffled through different training programs.
4. It is by far a more humane way of doing things than interest rate targeting. A more morale way of increasing productivity.
Because communities run the job guarentee themselves from the bottom up as they know what jobs need doing instead of top down from a centralised government. All they have to decide is what the job guarentee looks like.
A living wage is just a base case you can add things on like a pension and free child care etc. That the private sector would have to match if they want to compete for workers. Or choose to become more productive instead.
5. Because the Job guarentee creates full employment at all times. Businesses can now do this and build businesses plans that reflect this new reality. Rather than than worry about the instability of demand in the past. They can choose to invest in more machinery and productive techniques knowing that the demand will be there.
A real competition and monopoly authority will smash up monopolies and niche markets when they appear. Ensure Tooth and claw competition is ramped up to 10 at all times.
Reforms of the banks are a must. To ensure a Minsky moment does not happen. Lending is regulated to reflect public purpose and not shareholders.
All strategic and security industry and public services are nationalised and taken back into public hands. With import substitution where needed.
It wouldn’t solve everything but be a good start to ensure a sound foundation from which to build on. As you decide what you really want your skills and real resources to be doing as a nation. As you increase your productive capacity and push the threat of inflation further out On the horizon compared with the fiscal space you have now.

Posted by: Echo Chamber | Aug 8 2023 12:08 utc | 108

Close your borders turn it into a skill based immigration policy.
That’s how you improve productivity.
Slash the pension age back to 60.
That’s how you improve productivity.

Posted by: Echo Chamber | Aug 8 2023 12:16 utc | 109

https://www.southfront.org/europe-under-censorship-with-the-digital-services-act-orwells-prophecy-is-reality/
I would love to hear more on the DSA..from the EU..
As I see it, its Google, Facebook, x, and other oligarch owned, monopoly powered, global corporate information control policy inscribed into a law that disenfranchises those who are the governed.
Access to the truth will be only available to those who serve large enough institutions to ignore the law. or large enough research organizations to be able to have their exception to the law “excuses” be conditionally allowed long enough for a very few researchers with a limited scope of research to be able to have access to real truth information environments.

Posted by: snake | Aug 8 2023 13:26 utc | 110

https://t.me/africaintel/4761

🇳🇪 Prigozhin interview about the situation in Niger
PMC Wagner leader Yevgeny Prigozhin in the lights of the Nuland visit to Niger gave another interview regarding the situation. Here are some excerpts from his comments:
▪️Terrorists are afraid of Wagner.
▪️The US are doing everything, including recognizing the government (meaning Niger), just not to meet with Wagner.
▪️Wagner will always fight for justice and help those, who fight for their sovereignty and rights of their people

Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 8 2023 14:03 utc | 111

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the incidence of myocarditis, overall, up to the end of 2019, was four cases per million persons in the U.S. The figures for 2022 are: 25,000 persons per million.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 8 2023 17:25 utc | 112

ZH has a posting up with the title
Nuland In Niger, Warns Coup Leaders Against Forging Ties With Russia’s Wagner
She was not allowed to see the deposed leader and thinks that because the current leadership has had US training that they will come around…..

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 8 2023 18:50 utc | 113

@ psychohistorian | Aug 8 2023 17:25 utc | 112
That’s roughly 8.5 million cases nationwide. I’m guessing that only a media blackout is preventing a tidal wave of outrage.

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 8 2023 19:16 utc | 114

@ malenkov | Aug 8 2023 19:16 utc | 114 with the follow up
I think the numbers are high but agree that the US is living in a dystopian fiction.
The blow back is going to be something because the MSM continues to be THE opiate for most folks that are lazy or incapable of thinking for themselves.
Will the blow back against the mythical left by the mythical right be sufficient to get most folks to go along with the right China bashing?….stay tuned

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 8 2023 19:32 utc | 115

India in a Multipolar World – M.K. Bhadrakumar, Alexander Mercouris, Glenn Diesen

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 8 2023 19:42 utc | 116

“The figures for 2022 are: 25,000 persons per million.”
Implying the vaccine caused this, eh?
No. (there’s some for sure but)
It’s Covid. It is not the sniffles.
It whacks the immune system just for starters…then there’s the vascular system damages to ALL organs, including the brain.
Which is why I continue to mask up, use my Enovid when forced to be in public spaces–we are in a wave and cases are rising even tho our government is not counting them (see wastewater).
I’m seeing many of my neighbors die after their Covid (weeks, months later) bouts and nobody puts the two together (reality is so difficult to wrap one’s brain around amirite?)
And we’re expected to get it over and over…damages are cumulative and each infection (60% estimated to be asymptomatic)…there is no magical ‘herd immunity’ full stop.

Posted by: spamned | Aug 8 2023 21:19 utc | 117

Posted by: waynorinorway | Aug 8 2023 5:04 utc | 101
Right back atcha, waynorinorway! Over at the new US politics thread, I really lost heart. I think it’s always only due to a ‘band of brothers’ that something gets done in the world at large – had to be the case for China, for Russia too, even though their spokespersons are Xi and Putin. I remember back when I was watching late tv shows (dont any longer) that somebody explained that the reason people couldn’t grasp what was going on in economics was because the folk in that business didn’t want people to grasp it. Then came a band of brothers headed by Michael Hudson cutting to the chasse and we get it. Sort of.

Posted by: juliania | Aug 9 2023 1:42 utc | 118

chase

Posted by: juliania | Aug 9 2023 1:43 utc | 119

Does the CCP top care about their many own Chinese flood victims in Hebei? No!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S06GYgAg5D4
On Chinese social media EVEN Kim Yung Sung was praised for visiting disaster areas in North Korea recently. CCP flood money just went to Africa, not to China!
Xi Jinping is losing popularity fast in mainland China, not here of course! The PLA was also invisible on site, except in virtual fake PR.

Posted by: Antonym | Aug 9 2023 4:20 utc | 120

While the West wakes up from fake Covid, Climate Change, Russian aggression, the Chinese wake up from fake CCP care for them.
Both populations got WEFed, from Davos and Tianjin respectively.
The West has a “free” Internet + Twitter, the PRC has 1 billion Chinese on Weibo sharing their daily observations. Both function as bypasses for 1984 type MSM and run from mobile phones – which were made essential tools by the same WEF club for central control.
THAT backdoor was not foreseen by the 0.01%!

Posted by: Antonym | Aug 9 2023 4:32 utc | 121

Resident TG (translated) supposedly Ukraine with an Office Pres. source
Aug 2
The fight against corruption in Ukraine looks ridiculous, but at the same time, we have created dozens of services that should stop this process.
Ex-Minister Zlochevsky escaped with a fine in a corruption case. VAKS approved a plea agreement by the former Minister of Ecology – he was sentenced to a fine of 68,000 hryvnias for abuse of influence.
True, for cover, they organized a deal under which Zlochevsky paid 680 million hryvnias to the funds of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which was one of the conditions with the Special Anti-Corruption Prosecutor’s Office.
By the way, it was in the gas company of Zlochevsky that Hunter Biden, the son of the President of the United States, was employed at one time.
At this pace, corruption in Ukraine is only being scaled up, instead of confiscation of all property, a small fine and a kickback to the Office of the President.
https://t-me.translate.goog/rezident_ua/19045?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp
Aug 7
Our source in the OP said that the scandalous court decision on Zlochevsky was made under pressure from the Biden Administration, from the Office of the President they demanded to close all criminal cases against the owner of Burisma.
https://t-me.translate.goog/rezident_ua/19148?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp
Note: saying pressure now as President, not as VP in 2016.
Today Aug 8th
The verdict against the ex-Minister of Ecology and the owner of the Odessa “Infoksvodokanal” Nikolai Zlochevsky was closed for viewing.
Recall that the minister from the time of Yanukovych was able to avoid a real prison term by agreeing with the investigation in the case of a bribe of $6 million ((680 million hryvnias ?).
The official reason for the concealment of information is that the hearings were held behind closed doors. The court session, where the settlement agreement between Zlochevsky and the investigation was approved, was indeed behind closed doors, but only PARTIALLY. The law clearly states that in this case the decision is made public with the exclusion of only the information on which the court made the decision on the closed regime.
There was no such decision of the court throughout the consideration, the introductory and operative part of the decision was proclaimed in open session.
In addition, when approving the agreement, the court must indicate why, in its opinion, the terms of the agreement are in the public interest . And why the fine agreed between the prosecutor and Zlochevsky with the payment of 660 million UAH. on the Armed Forces of Ukraine was enough to approve the agreement. There is no reason to close this part of the decision either. However, no one can see the motives of the court.
https://t-me.translate.goog/rezident_ua/19168?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp
Note: for your info but I do not know how accurate reliable these comments are.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Aug 9 2023 5:10 utc | 122

Wall Street On Parade has a couple of pieces up documenting the next steps over the cliff of US finance…..the posting titles
Moody’s Cuts Credit Ratings on 10 Banks; Places 4 of the 15 Largest Banks in U.S. on Review for Possible Downgrade
The 25 Largest U.S. Banks Are Seeing the Largest Fall in Deposits in 38 Years With No Signs of Letting Up
We are way past smoke, mirrors and fumes and maybe into the beginning of black hole sucking land…./s

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 9 2023 6:23 utc | 123

ZH has a posting up that shows just how corrupt and convoluted the Covid cover up is getting….the title
Newsom Funded Chinese COVID Lab Known To Biden’s FDA
the quote

The discovery last month of a Chinese COVID biolab in California shocked the nation, but likely came as no surprise to the state’s Democrat governor, Gavin Newsom.
He helped fund it.
The now-notorious secret facility, which contained a massive stockpile of “infectious agents,” including coronavirus, and nearly a thousand dead lab mice and vials of unidentified biological fluids, also likely came as no surprise to the Biden administration.
The FDA last year issued a recall warning for nearly 54,000 COVID rapid tests manufactured by the company that owned the lab.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 9 2023 6:28 utc | 124

“Cities Sacrificed for Beijing: Internet cut to stop live streaming/Secret Flood release, no escape”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq6Tx-7t9Ws

Posted by: Antonym | Aug 9 2023 11:10 utc | 125

https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/76470

President Bashar al-Assad gives an exclusive interview to Sky News Arabia, to be shown tomorrow (Wednesday) evening, in which he talks about war, terrorism, and the drugs issue, about refugees and their return, about the challenges of the economy and living in Syria, about the future of Syrian-Arab relations, the situation in Lebanon and the position on Hamas, about the relationship with allies, and the dispute with Erdogan.

One can only hope that Syria is given the means to liberate itself from the purgatory of zombie occupation.

Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 9 2023 12:03 utc | 126

China vs. US banks
8/8/23 Scheerpost
Ellen Brown on how China could, in case of heightening tension, create pressure by depleting US banks
“Ellen Brown: War By Other Means: Short Selling JPMorgan Chase”
https://scheerpost.com/2023/08/08/ellen-brown-war-by-other-means-short-selling-jpmorgan-chase/
blogger “DeepThroatIPO argues that China has U.S. assets sufficient to trigger a bear raid on this gargantuan bank, largely because of the unique way it handles its own currency. In the domestic Chinese economy, yuan are used, and the People’s Bank of China [PBOC], the country’s central bank, can print them at will. Merchants exporting to the U.S. take their dollars to the bank, trade them for yuan, and pay their workers and suppliers in yuan, leaving the PBOC with “free” U.S. dollars. This maneuver is confirmed in Investopedia:
(…)
The Chinese government and affiliated Chinese entities have purchased not just U.S. Treasuries with their dollars, but U.S. stocks, real estate, farmland and other assets. DeepThroatIPO calculates that the Chinese have “accomplished constructive control of approximately $58.58 trillion of Western Financial Assets, stealthily hiding in Western Financial Markets, likely in plain sight. … [T]hat $58.58 trillion, focused directly on select targets … is more than enough to sink our previously thought unsinkable fleet of battleship banks.”
(…)
Not that China would, but it could. In peaceful times, it profits from trade with the U.S., just as we need Chinese goods. But “all is fair in war,” and it is prudent to be aware of these covert potential weapons before fanning the flames of aggression. Cooperation serves the people on both sides of the conflict better than war.”

Posted by: AG | Aug 9 2023 12:07 utc | 127

@ AG | Aug 9 2023 12:07 utc | 127
But surely China is aware that its ability to leverage its US assets is sorely limited. Real estate and Chinese-owned businesses (think Smithfield) can be confiscated at a moment’s notice, and the Treasury can refuse to honor payment of interest and principal on any bonds owned by Chinese entities—which is why China has been slowly, carefully, and unobtrusively selling its bond holdings, or allowing them to mature without subsequent reinvestment.

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 9 2023 13:38 utc | 128

@malenkov 128
most likely
But I appreciated Brown´s insight as this part was not very much highlighted in recent takes on the bank issue (which oddly enough disappeared as fast as it came up in the MSM at least.)

Posted by: AG | Aug 9 2023 14:30 utc | 129

Ryan Grim at The Intercept has found the smoking gun in the Imran Khan ouster.
“THE U.S. STATE DEPARTMENT encouraged the Pakistani government in a March 7, 2022, meeting to remove Imran Khan as prime minister over his neutrality on the Russian invasion of Ukraine, according to a classified Pakistani government document obtained by The Intercept.
“The meeting, between the Pakistani ambassador to the United States and two State Department officials, has been the subject of intense scrutiny, controversy, and speculation in Pakistan over the past year and a half, as supporters of Khan and his military and civilian opponents jockeyed for power. The political struggle escalated on August 5 when Khan was sentenced to three years in prison on corruption charges and taken into custody for the second time since his ouster. Khan’s defenders dismiss the charges as baseless. The sentence also blocks Khan, Pakistan’s most popular politician, from contesting elections expected in Pakistan later this year….”
https://theintercept.com/2023/08/09/imran-khan-pakistan-cypher-ukraine-russia/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

Posted by: bevin | Aug 9 2023 18:33 utc | 130

bevin: Well, knock me over with a feather!
But seriously, thanks for passing along that info.

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 9 2023 19:23 utc | 131

malenkov@131
Yes, Comrade, I was amazed too. The US government interfering in the affairs of a sovereign nation! An ancient ally too!
At first I just could not believe it. I expect Pakistanis will be surprised too- not the Russians, or the dreaded Chinese, not the Indians either. But the leader of the Free World. The source of all the values that men and women and even cuddly animals of good will share. And embrace as a mother her new born child. etc etc etc.
Of course it could be a False Flag. A carefully fabricated fake from the Kremlin’s propaganda millsm which grind exceeding small and never cease their foul work.
In any case I am shocked, as of course are you. And all…

Posted by: bevin | Aug 9 2023 22:41 utc | 132

Below is a Xinhuanet posting about the latest goading by dying empire

BEIJING, Aug. 10 (Xinhua) — China’s Ministry of Commerce (MOC) on Thursday made remarks on the U.S. administrative order of reviewing U.S. companies’ investments going abroad.
The United States imposing limits on its own companies investing abroad is an act of decoupling and severing industrial and supply chains under the guise of de-risking in the investment sector, a spokesperson with the MOC said.
The act gravely deviates from the principles of market economy and fair competition advocated by the United States, affects the normal business decisions of enterprises, undermines the international economic and trade order, and seriously disrupts the security of global industrial and supply chains.
China is seriously concerned about it and reserves the right to take measures, according to the spokesperson.
“We hope that the U.S. side will respect the laws of market economy and the principle of fair competition, refrain from artificially impeding global economic and trade exchanges and cooperation, as well as setting obstacles for the recovery of world economic growth,” the spokesperson said.

One of these days China will take measures in response to this bullying and we are all waiting for that day to arrive.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 10 2023 5:34 utc | 133

Below is a Xinhuanet link to a one minute, nineteen second video with the title
AI Video: Bloody money
the link
https://english.news.cn/20230810/57c39abd729c49f69b1ff5aad2814bd6/c.html
China is not pulling any punches in this video

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 10 2023 5:49 utc | 134

@ psychohistorian | Aug 10 2023 5:49 utc | 134 who wrote, “China is not pulling any punches in this video”.
Yes, and they use Eisenhower’s farewell speech as an example. This is often brought up as praise of Ike for warning about the military industrial complex, but it must be remembered that it was his exit speech and it was his anti-communist position that got the military industrial complex to go into over-drive in the first place during his 8 years in office. Duplicitous is the word here.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Aug 10 2023 6:06 utc | 135

US told Pakistan to remove Imran Khan from power – Intercept
Background RT in June

Pakistan’s former prime minister Imran Khan, said he visited Russia on the same day that Moscow launched its military operation in Ukraine 24 February 2022 – and that while he didn’t agree with the motives behind the offensive, he refused calls to condemn the action, so as to not jeopardize a trade agreement.
The US “wanted us, through the United Nations, to condemn Russia,” said Khan, who explained that his government had arranged an agreement to import “cheap oil” and wheat from Moscow. “If we condemn them right now, what about the impact it’s going to have on our population?”
Khan added that, after a meeting in early March of 2022 between Pakistani and US diplomats, he was informed that unless he was removed as prime minister, there would be “consequences.”
“Next day, there’s the no-confidence motion tables in the National Assembly,” Khan said. “And before that, we see that the American Embassy is meeting our parliamentarians, our backbenchers.” He added that he was “puzzled” as to why the US would “object to a deal.”
https://www.rt.com/news/577855-pakistan-khan-us-conspiracy/

They did “A Trump” to Imran Khan, charged him with fake indictments in a kangaroo court, and threw him in jail, banning him from the upcoming elections he would likely win with his massive support of the public.

The INTERCEPT – The U.S. State Department encouraged the Pakistani government in a March 7, 2022, meeting to remove Imran Khan as prime minister over his neutrality on the Russian invasion of Ukraine, according to a classified Pakistani government document obtained by The Intercept.
The meeting, between the Pakistani ambassador to the United States and two State Department officials, has been the subject of intense scrutiny, controversy, and speculation in Pakistan over the past year and a half, as supporters of Khan and his military and civilian opponents jockeyed for power. The political struggle escalated on August 5 when Khan was sentenced to three years in prison on corruption charges and taken into custody for the second time since his ouster. Khan’s defenders dismiss the charges as baseless. The sentence also blocks Khan, Pakistan’s most popular politician, from contesting elections expected in Pakistan later this year.
https://theintercept.com/2023/08/09/imran-khan-pakistan-cypher-ukraine-russia/

RT – “People here and in Europe are quite concerned about why Pakistan is taking such an aggressively neutral position” on Ukraine, US Assistant Secretary of State for the Bureau of South and Central Asian Affairs Donald Lu warns his Pakistani counterpart in the cable, blaming the PM alone for the offending policy.
While polls have suggested Khan would easily win an election were he permitted to run again, he was sentenced to three years in prison last week on corruption charges, blocking him from contesting elections expected to take place this year. He has been charged with numerous crimes since his ouster, from insulting state officials to terrorism, and last month it was announced he would be prosecuted under the Official Secrets Act for revealing the contents of the cable documenting the conspiracy to oust him.
https://www.rt.com/news/581067-us-pressured-pakistan-khan-ouster/

The meeting between the Pakistani ambassador to the US and US State Dept officials has been a matter of intense scrutiny, controversary and specualtion in Pakistan since last year…
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/102589343.cms

VOA – ISLAMABAD —
The United States said Wednesday it had objected privately and publicly to last year’s visit to Russia by Pakistan’s then-prime minister, Imran Khan, but rejected allegations that Washington had played a role in his removal from power weeks later.
State Department spokesman Mathew Miller made the comments in response to an alleged Pakistani diplomatic cable, known internally as a cipher, documenting a March 7, 2022, meeting between two American officials and Islamabad’s then-ambassador to the U.S., Asad Majeed Khan.
An American news outlet, The Intercept, published for the first time Wednesday what it said is the text of the cipher, which Imran Khan has long held up as evidence of his claim that his defeat in a parliamentary no-confidence motion was engineered by Washington.
According to Ambassador Khan’s purported cable, the State Department officials at the meeting encouraged him to tell Pakistan’s powerful military that if Khan were removed from office over his neutrality on the Russian invasion of Ukraine, Islamabad could expect warmer relations with Washington.
https://www.voanews.com/a/purported-text-of-secret-cable-shows-us-ire-at-imran-khan-/7219123.html

Purported? They’re so cute.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Aug 10 2023 7:07 utc | 136

Sorry missed a < / b >

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Aug 10 2023 7:09 utc | 137

(Take two) US told Pakistan to remove Imran Khan from power – Intercept
Background RT in June

Pakistan’s former prime minister Imran Khan, said he visited Russia on the same day that Moscow launched its military operation in Ukraine 24 February 2022 – and that while he didn’t agree with the motives behind the offensive, he refused calls to condemn the action, so as to not jeopardize a trade agreement.
The US “wanted us, through the United Nations, to condemn Russia,” said Khan, who explained that his government had arranged an agreement to import “cheap oil” and wheat from Moscow. “If we condemn them right now, what about the impact it’s going to have on our population?”
Khan added that, after a meeting in early March of 2022 between Pakistani and US diplomats, he was informed that unless he was removed as prime minister, there would be “consequences.”
“Next day, there’s the no-confidence motion tables in the National Assembly,” Khan said. “And before that, we see that the American Embassy is meeting our parliamentarians, our backbenchers.” He added that he was “puzzled” as to why the US would “object to a deal.”
https://www.rt.com/news/577855-pakistan-khan-us-conspiracy/

The INTERCEPT – The U.S. State Department encouraged the Pakistani government in a March 7, 2022, meeting to remove Imran Khan as prime minister over his neutrality on the Russian invasion of Ukraine, according to a classified Pakistani government document obtained by The Intercept.
The meeting, between the Pakistani ambassador to the United States and two State Department officials, has been the subject of intense scrutiny, controversy, and speculation in Pakistan over the past year and a half, as supporters of Khan and his military and civilian opponents jockeyed for power. The political struggle escalated on August 5 when Khan was sentenced to three years in prison on corruption charges and taken into custody for the second time since his ouster. Khan’s defenders dismiss the charges as baseless. The sentence also blocks Khan, Pakistan’s most popular politician, from contesting elections expected in Pakistan later this year.
https://theintercept.com/2023/08/09/imran-khan-pakistan-cypher-ukraine-russia/

RT – “People here and in Europe are quite concerned about why Pakistan is taking such an aggressively neutral position” on Ukraine, US Assistant Secretary of State for the Bureau of South and Central Asian Affairs Donald Lu warns his Pakistani counterpart in the cable, blaming the PM alone for the offending policy.
While polls have suggested Khan would easily win an election were he permitted to run again, he was sentenced to three years in prison last week on corruption charges, blocking him from contesting elections expected to take place this year. He has been charged with numerous crimes since his ouster, from insulting state officials to terrorism, and last month it was announced he would be prosecuted under the Official Secrets Act for revealing the contents of the cable documenting the conspiracy to oust him.
https://www.rt.com/news/581067-us-pressured-pakistan-khan-ouster/

VOA – ISLAMABAD —
The United States said Wednesday it had objected privately and publicly to last year’s visit to Russia by Pakistan’s then-prime minister, Imran Khan, but rejected allegations that Washington had played a role in his removal from power weeks later.
State Department spokesman Mathew Miller made the comments in response to an alleged Pakistani diplomatic cable, known internally as a cipher, documenting a March 7, 2022, meeting between two American officials and Islamabad’s then-ambassador to the U.S., Asad Majeed Khan.
An American news outlet, The Intercept, published for the first time Wednesday what it said is the text of the cipher, which Imran Khan has long held up as evidence of his claim that his defeat in a parliamentary no-confidence motion was engineered by Washington.
According to Ambassador Khan’s purported cable, the State Department officials at the meeting encouraged him to tell Pakistan’s powerful military that if Khan were removed from office over his neutrality on the Russian invasion of Ukraine, Islamabad could expect warmer relations with Washington.
https://www.voanews.com/a/purported-text-of-secret-cable-shows-us-ire-at-imran-khan-/7219123.html

Purported? They’re so cute.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Aug 10 2023 7:11 utc | 138

The European Union is preparing to impose sanctions on the new military government in Niger, European sources told Reuters on Wednesday.
An EU diplomat and an official involved in formulating the sanctions confirmed the bloc was devising criteria for punishment, set to include the “undermining of democracy.”
The formula is likely to be agreed upon soon, the official told the news outlet.
“The next step would be sanctions against individual members of the military government, said to be responsible for the ousting of former president Mohamed Bazoum last month,” the diplomat said.
RT

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Aug 10 2023 7:25 utc | 139

“Over the last few years, Pakistan’s parliamentarians, individuals who have sworn to protect and uphold the Constitution, have betrayed both the letter and spirit of constitutional democracy in the country. This betrayal has come on the back of years of rhetoric about the rule of law, democracy, and constitutional norms. And the culminating act of betrayal has unfolded over the past few weeks, where Parliament, the very institution that politicians draw their strength from, has been made a mockery of.”

https://www.dawn.com/news/1769090/the-parliament-that-murdered-democracy
So not only the military but also the civilian elite has done this territory in. The remaining opposition is on the back streets, militants. All three groups use the green flag of Islam as cover for their power grabbing attempts while the 90% suffers.

Posted by: Antonym | Aug 10 2023 13:06 utc | 140

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