The Democrats Biden Problem
On August 7 2023 a fire burned down a large part of the Lahaina, a city on Maui, Hawaii, with some 12,700 inhabitants. Thousands of homes were destroyed. At least 115 people died, some 850 are still missing. It was the deadliest fire in the U.S. in more than a century.
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When President Biden was asked about the incident a week after it had happened he responded with "No comment."
The government offers an insulting $700 as emergency aid to every affected household. U.S. aid to Ukraine has exceeded $3,000 for every Ukrainian and Biden is seeking another $27 billion to be send there.
It took fourteen days for Biden to show up on the scene of the fire incident.
Being there he joked about the 'hot ground' and offered a fake story:
When President Joe Biden met with survivors of the Maui wildfires on Monday, he told them that he could relate to them because he and First Lady Jill Biden knew what it was like to lose a home to a fire.But the fire in question was described by the Associated Press at the time as "a small fire that was contained to the kitchen," with the Delaware fire chief indicating that it was under control in 20 minutes.
Later, while someone on the stage talked about how his home and the homes of his son and daughter had burned down, Biden seemed to fall asleep (vid).
I do not know who is supposed to manage Biden's public relations but whoever that is is doing a bad job.
The strategists for the Democratic Party and those concerned with winning elections should seriously think about replacing Biden with someone who is better at handling himself.
Posted by b on August 22, 2023 at 15:40 UTC | Permalink
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Posted by: Thurl | Aug 22 2023 15:50 utc | 2
"The strategists for the Democratic Party and those concerned with winning elections should seriously think about replacing Biden with someone who is better at handling himself."
But surely there is an ideal candidate in Harris?? Handling herself??? /s
Does anythink that the USA might be able to elect someone less than say 75 years old and who also has a functioning brain and sense of empathy?
Posted by: marcjf | Aug 22 2023 15:53 utc | 3
Democratic Party strategists shouldn't be worried.
They have been blatantly lying since the beginning of this case and they manage to convince a lot of people!
Biden seems to be what he has been for a long time and with many examples and still moves on!
William Hearst said long ago that he never lost money by investing in people's idiocy.
Looks like it's still valid...
Posted by: paulsnows | Aug 22 2023 15:54 utc | 4
Bring in another Covid crisis, more absentees votes and the Biden wins. They control the press and the courts. No banana republic is as efficient.
Posted by: GPD | Aug 22 2023 15:56 utc | 5
I agree -b-. I have publicly stated on this thread… that the “in your face” theft of 2020, not even nuanced or hidden anymore, cemented my assertion of a banana republic that goes through the motions of an “election”, when in fact it’s currently the worst criminal gangsters cauldron the US has known.
Back to your article, wholly agree, for at least a year or more, all those “falling down stairs” “calling out for dead people” moving into criminal allegations, the media riding it all every step of the way… too obvious they’ve no intention on actually “running Biden” again. He was always a one term place holder.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 22 2023 15:56 utc | 6
Agree or disagree with his policies, AMLO's victory in Mexico shows that rigging has its limits.
Posted by: ISL | Aug 22 2023 15:57 utc | 7
LOL!!
I love me the smell of empire burning in my morning skim of the intertubes.
Why is it that another Obama cannot be found to lead the God Of Mammon cult and its BLUE followers over the cliff?
Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 22 2023 16:03 utc | 8
b - thanks.. agree with you in your conclusion... lets see what happens..
Posted by: james | Aug 22 2023 16:05 utc | 9
"[DNC apparatchiks] winning elections should seriously think about replacing Biden with someone who is better at handling himself"
Biden has to be appointed to the nomination to avoid any democratic representation then he will be replaced by a selected candidate. That candidate looks to be Gavin Newsom although, any empty-headed clown will do.
Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 22 2023 16:06 utc | 10
If there were democratic strategists who were primarily concerned with the democratic party’s electoral success and long term prospects this would be true. But there aren’t. The democratic elite are all in the Clintonian camp that goes back to the early 80’s and “third way”. Biden is part of that group. What they’re concerned with is their personal power, wealth and retaining control of the party.
The hiccup here is the imperial project. Biden doesn’t much care about the domestic side of things like Hawaii or East Palestine because he became president for the empire. He’s only focused on Ukraine and has been from day one. The problem for the democrats and Biden in 2024 is just that. The project continuing as is depends a lot on whether Biden can win, but there’s no evidence that American voters care so much about Ukraine.
Posted by: Lex | Aug 22 2023 16:06 utc | 11
Joe Biden is ultimately just some guy whose dad owned a car dealership. He still has and treasures as his most prized possession the car he gave him as his wedding present decades ago.
The guy who goes "my dad owns a car dealership" is a small town US cliche for vapid arrogant rich kids.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPshLmo97NY
In many ways he is a kind of Justin Trudeau from another generation.
While you can look back at his more serious efforts in the pre-neoliberal age, (Pre mid 80s at the latest) it's clear now that this was simply because expectations of politicians were higher and the public made him. In an era where anti-democratic forces have won and every expression of democracy is derangedly declared "anti-democratic" he is free to be himself. And elected as "not Trump" he has no purpose or objective other than not changing the suffocating neoliberal/neocon consensus that drives Washington. He has no political purpose nor is he expected to have one.
In this way he is the final expression of defeat of the centre-left in the Anglosphere, being unable to even articulate who the people are, what their interests are, point out obvious parasitic and dangerous lobby groups like the Israel lobby personified in the neocons and unable to process how Trump won the 2016 election by flipping solid blue states in the Great Lakes area due to their deification of mass migration as a religious rite and purpose unto itself. There is absolutely no empathy or understanding for the impacts of immigration on labour, communities or politics. In fact in the US you can see the topics of global warming and immigration as being the mirrors of each other on the right and left respectively. Both are in denial of this topics because of the ideological implications. That immigration is an existential issue that touches everything, like global warming, is something the modern mainstream Western left, outside Denmark, is so far incapable of understanding and thus the political crisis will continue.
In order then to process how Trump won in these solid blue states they had to pretend people were "duped" or that the Russians had hacked the election. We have seen how terrible the cost of this insane cope has been. Until the mainstream left is able to understand both how Trump won and why there wouldn't have been a war in Ukraine if he had won the 2020 election, nothing will progress. It will likely take the existing centre-left parties in the West to be left in the dust by new parties sensitive to the political realignment coming but that will be a hard slog. It might be too late.
Posted by: Altai | Aug 22 2023 16:06 utc | 12
Why are people still surprised at how US "democracy" works?
All Democrat strategists are working on is indicting and stopping trump from running. They achieve that goal and its smooth sailing to 2024.
They could literally put a frozen banana as their candidate and it would win.
Posted by: Comandante | Aug 22 2023 16:07 utc | 13
The strategists for the Democratic Party and those concerned with winning elections should seriously think about replacing Biden with someone who is better at handling himself.
You win the understatement contest today, b.
Posted by: robjira | Aug 22 2023 16:08 utc | 14
In Europe at least, it's now absolutely obligatory for politicians to show up on site to sympathise with the sufferers from a disaster. Apparently this has not got through to Biden yet. He's a week late. Still, the treatment of the people of Lahaina does look particularly negligent - no warning alarm siren, etc.
Posted by: laguerre | Aug 22 2023 16:09 utc | 15
"Later, while someone on the stage talked about how his home and the homes of his son and daughter had burned down, Biden Sleepy seemed to fall asleep."
Guess how surprised everyone at the meeting wasn't?
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 22 2023 16:09 utc | 16
They could literally put a frozen banana as their candidate and it would win.
Posted by: Comandante | Aug 22 2023 16:07 utc | 13
Not if the Republicans ran a reasonable candidate who wasn't a total sell out to neo-feudalism.
Posted by: JMW | Aug 22 2023 16:11 utc | 17
This is insane. The Demos even tacked the money for Eukraine onto the Disaster- Relief Fund! "No money for Eukraine?...very well then, none for Disaster-Relief." I smell Blackmail; Chantaje. Through "friends" Zelinsky has been made hip to some morsel from the Epstein tapes and is twirling it over Joe Buyden's head...and his staff
is hand-cuffed by it. Just think;14 more months of this!
Posted by: Cocoliso | Aug 22 2023 16:11 utc | 18
"Not if the Republicans ran a reasonable candidate who wasn't a total sell out to neo-feudalism."
this doesn't exist.
Posted by: Comandante | Aug 22 2023 16:11 utc | 19
other Western nations are not much better.
look at Germany. they literally have a Liverwurst (soft sausage made from pig liver) as their leader. lol
Posted by: Comandante | Aug 22 2023 16:13 utc | 20
Biden is no problem for the Democrats. They wheel him out of cold storage when necessary, to continue the illusion that the country isn't run by Blackrock Wall Street crooks. When he loses the next election, the Democrats can hue and cry and depend on an inrush of money. The liberals who support Democrats are easy marks.
Replacing Uncle Joe? Will never happen. Reminds me of a documentary I saw on the Weimar Republic. Hindenburg was elected as leader and some people were concerned not only about his age but also of how easily he could be influenced. And the rest is history.
Posted by: Jose Garcia | Aug 22 2023 16:16 utc | 22
"those concerned with winning elections should seriously think about replacing Biden with someone who is better at handling himself."
Kamala?
Posted by: Michael Kent | Aug 22 2023 16:17 utc | 23
Also disturbing is the the electorate and the congress seem unmoved, by anything really.
Posted by: jared | Aug 22 2023 16:18 utc | 24
RFK Jr.?
Col. Tulsi Gabbard?
Trump?
Which is your choice???
INDY
Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Aug 22 2023 16:24 utc | 25
"Also disturbing is the the electorate and the congress seem unmoved, by anything really.
Posted by: jared | Aug 22 2023 16:18 utc | 24"
same thing in all the rest of the West.
Col. Macgreggor has been more and more doubtful that the West electorates will wake up. He is now leaning on the opinion that the West will not wake up so we will have years and years more of this. This story will have one of 3 endings or combination of: years and years of war likely escalating to a WW, Ukranian army collapse and defeat of the West and/or collapse of Western financial system.
Posted by: Comandante | Aug 22 2023 16:28 utc | 26
You have no source for that $700 number. The sources you do have include unreliable sources such as Fox News and Press TV. And it would've been an obvious mistake for Biden to go sooner as he would've been in the way of rescue operations.
Posted by: Inkan1969 | Aug 22 2023 16:34 utc | 27
We get the leaders we deserve.
Look upon the face of J. Biden.
The collective face of America.
Made flesh.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 22 2023 16:34 utc | 28
When you've got rigged voting machines, no-fault, mail-in voting and ballot harvesting on an industrial scale you don't need to be concerned with winning elections.
Posted by: Phil R | Aug 22 2023 15:47 utc | 1
My first thought reading this one. The Dem section of the RC has become an arm of intelligence since Trump won in 2016, probably long before that, but that's when it became obvious.
Since 2016 the intelligence agencies have worked to destabilize the country as they once did to weak countries around the world that had some geopolitical significance.
All the dirty tricks used on Guatemala and Iran in the 50s are now applied to the US itself. The Biden administration knows this and as the intelligence agencies run the country, he is quite confident that he is untouchable. They all are.
This is why they barely even pretend to give a shit when something like Maui occurs. They're smirking in your face, they think it's funny that we still think we have the right to speech, assembly or even the right to choose one of two imperialist foreign policies every four years. The right to live in a safe, stable environment is even a bigger joke to them.
There are two Americas. One of the oligarchs and their political servants. This America currently makes all decisions and enjoys all power and wealth.
The other America is made up of wage/debt slaves struggling to survive. They produce everything in the country and can bring the RC to it's knees. Hence the intelligence psyops are focused primarily on dividing and confusing those wage/debt slaves.
But the RC is desperate. They can see their own demise on the world stage. They compromise themselves daily with one insane initiative after another. The mask is coming off and the hideous face underneath is now visible to an ever increasing number.
This all happened rather quickly after 2016, the pandemic accelerated the process, the doomed war on Russia has accelerated it further. The wage/debt slaves in the west are still reeling from the shock, but that won't last forever.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 22 2023 16:35 utc | 29
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 22 2023 16:34 utc | 28
Is Sunak the collective face of the UK, Schultz of Germany? Like saying a leech is the collective face of the person it's attached itself to.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 22 2023 16:38 utc | 30
The democrats Biden problem was dozens of videos of him sniffing young girls, hair, nuzzling to their ears and whispering to them god knows what, and cupping their breasts.
That this was covered up by the presstitutes of the west means the Democrats have no Biden problem. They'll cheat their way through the primaries, won a court case where they don't even have to respect primary votes, and they'll just rig the elections again...
..unless they can get some neocon to become republican nominee... ...then they might rig the election for them.
Posted by: UWDude | Aug 22 2023 16:41 utc | 31
You have no source for that $700 number. The sources you do have include unreliable sources such as Fox News and Press TV.
Posted by: Inkan1969 | Aug 22 2023 16:34 utc | 27
Took me 2 seconds to find this info on MSM sites. What's your excuse?
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/survivors-maui-fires-set-aid-network-trust-government-falters-rcna100041
Posted by: Frank McGar | Aug 22 2023 16:48 utc | 32
“ I do not know who is supposed to manage Biden's public relations but whoever that is…” has undertaken an impossible job.
Posted by: nwwoods | Aug 22 2023 16:50 utc | 33
Put yourself in the position of the average:
- North Vietnamese (circa 1960 - 1970)
- North Korean
- Iraqi
- Syrian
- Iranian
- Lebanese
- Somali
- Palestinian
- Chinese
Then ask yourself what your experience of "America" has been? How would you visualize America as a personification, based on your experience?
Can you see that shit-eating death grin with an empty void behind it?
Can you see the narcissism oozing like sweat from it's pores?
Can you hear the crude insults against peer world leaders ("Who would want to be Xi Jinping")
Can you hear the loud, proclamations of violence - of "what we'll do to you if you don't comply ..." ?
"We'll take the oil!" to hell with your children, let them starve.
Here in the global south, the behaviour of America as a collective - a State - is well personified by the face glued to the puppet that is Joe Biden.
The same murderous, psycopathic, narcissism enacted upon the World by the American State is present and represented in the man himself.
The same corrupt, self-serving egoism projected by this man (and his predecessor models) is how we here in the global south and elsewhere have experienced the USA.
"500 000 Iraqi children were worth it" says the American State.
An American man mourns the home his children have lost. Mr. Biden yawns.
Your leaders are in character so well matched to the actions of your state upon the world state that it cannot be said otherwise:
You have the leaders you deserve.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 22 2023 16:54 utc | 34
it all makes sense if you take 2 things in consideration.
#1; those elections are going to be complete hog wash.
fraudulent elections are already a staple in the US; and todays Democrats are even more corrupt and mad with power than the old boys network, the GOP.
look how quick and easy Sanders was sidelined for the rabid warmongerer Clinton.
they -the DMC- knew that everybody and their dog absolutely hated Hillary, but they just didn't care; so sure about "winning"
then the wildcard Trump happened and they have been screaming about 'Russian collusion' and 'election interference' for 4 years.
and the sheep -ooops, the voters- swallowed all the bullshit hook, line and sinker.
then Wildcard was removed from power -I wouldn't call the shit show that happened in 2020 an election. it was a circus
to avoid Trump going wildcard again, they will throw him in prison.
classic dictator scenario. jail your political opponent.
the DMC is not worried about the fall out from such a scenario. just like they're not worried about the fall out from Hunter Biden's laptop; this current media clusterfuck over Hawaii or anything else.
Who will speak up for the Hawaiians? Tulsi? she's completely deplatformed on all media, except twitter.
#2; joe Biden is THE PERFECT candidate.
a senile sockpuppet with a tendency to grope, fondle and sniff awfully young underage girls and other people's wives?
a deranged pervert to his bones. even if his brain wasn't dribbling out of his ears; all that behavior could be easily used to keep him in line.
the DMC really doesn't want another Kennedy. what can they do if Robert Kennedy doesn't toe the empirial eternal war and full spectrum domination line then?
shoot him in Dallas, perhaps? that would turn him into a martyr.
Trump in jail is one thing; anorther dead Kennedy would cause the deep state or whatever you call it a lot more problems.
no; the drooling grandpa handpuppet is the best thing that has ever happened to the neocons and the banksters; who seamlessly made the swap from Republican to Democrat without a hitch.
they got full free reign.
don't think for a minute that Biden's gaffes are a disaster; they know they can get away with it; anything really offensive is kept out of the bigger media channels. as long as Joe 'cildrens hairsniffer" Biden is alive, he has his uses.
and the media will avoid anything that could possibly harm the chances of the Dems 'winning' the dog and pony show that now passes for democracy in the West.
Posted by: valar morghulis | Aug 22 2023 16:58 utc | 35
Posted by: Inkan1969 | Aug 22 2023 16:34 utc | 27
No, that is not all that is being done, but the $700 is real, and is quite rightly being taken as an insult. Perhaps the WH is a good enough source?
His visit was a laugh track in a sick comedy, from the made up story about his kitchen fire 'almost taking his cat etc. etc.' to falling asleep as other survivors recounted their stories.
Posted by: dask | Aug 22 2023 16:59 utc | 36
Posted by: Frank McGar | Aug 22 2023 16:48 utc | 32
Took me 2 seconds to find this info on MSM sites. What's your excuse?
That first source calls the $700 an "immediate payment"; it doesn't say anything about it being the only payment. I'm all for pressuring the government to pay more. And the second source is clearly a right wing extremist source.
Posted by: laguerre | Aug 22 2023 16:09 utc | 15
In Europe at least, it's now absolutely obligatory for politicians to show up on site to sympathise with the sufferers from a disaster.
Is it obligatory to show up immediately after a disaster, even though that means rescue efforts will be hampered by time and resources wasted on protecting the leader and planning the logistics of a visit?
Posted by: Inkan1969 | Aug 22 2023 17:02 utc | 37
Biden is a reflection of the ruling elites' total disdain for their own countrymen. Just think of the 4,000 or so killed by the seven eleven massacre.
Biden's handlers clearly don't give a crap about what he says or does, they're probably all having a great laugh behind his back and at the us citizens.
Posted by: Eoin Clancy | Aug 22 2023 17:02 utc | 38
Really enjoying the comments defending Biden on this page.
Mental gymnastics really deserves to be its own Olympic event.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 22 2023 17:04 utc | 39
The contrast with Russia is both striking and appalling, but then Russia has a functioning government with outstanding leadership. Later today once the transcript's complete, I'll report on today's Meeting of the Council for Strategic Development and National Projects which is an audit of sorts for the long-term planning made to 2030, planning no Neoliberal enslaved nation does because that's planning to advance the people's wellbeing, not Neoliberal Parasite's.
And advancing the wellbeing of Neoliberal Parasites instead of the general welfare of all is THE, and has been the, major problem confronting American citizens since the 1960s. The fact that no Countervailing Power was allowed to develop--indeed, it was consciously smashed--in the 1950s allowed for the rise of the Corporate Uniparty that exists today at the federal level. Correcting that history is a huge task that would take a level of solidarity never before seen in the USA to accomplish. And it certainly won't be accomplished merely by changing the POTUS figurehead. The fundamantal root of the problem's been known since the late 1970s--privately funded AND owned political parties and election machinery. The initial step to solving the problem is making political parties and the entire election process a public utility while apportioning the amount of national media that must be allocated to candidates freely during a campaign season lasting from March to November. The political parties themselves must be made into 100% public entities 100% responsive to the public, not the special interest Donors that currently own them. All that will require legislation OR Constitutional amendment, and to acquire either will again require a massive amount of national solidarity as I wrote above.
The hole that's been dug into the fabric of the USA's political system is extremely deep and will require extraordinary efforts to not just cease the digging but to fill the hole. Meanwhile, the RoW will be advancing itself and the openness of their political systems and processes will hopefully motivate Americans to do their job--IF--they want good governance and the prospect of decent livelihoods.
I think the Dem’s have it in the bag. You all think they are stupid indicting Trump an giving him a chance to prove that 2020 was stolen. The Dems simply throw in the towel on that Nov 2024 and then look to the 22nd amendment. Where the wording is quite clear - non one can be elected more than twice to be Pres. it says nothing about actually serving. Trump is disqualified and Biden is the only one standing. Like Obama did to get elected as Senator.
Posted by: Guy L’Estrange | Aug 22 2023 17:08 utc | 41
Posted by: Inkan1969 | Aug 22 2023 17:02 utc | 37
that means rescue efforts will be hampered by time and resources wasted on protecting the leader and planning the logistics of a visit?
I thought the US had infinite resources and are the world's masters of logistics?
If the excelled at funneling State Department officials into Kieeeev , how difficult could a short trip within US borders be?
Besides ... what's left to rescue?
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 22 2023 17:09 utc | 42
At least 115 people died, some 850 are still missing. It was the deadliest fire in the U.S. in more than a century.
Unfortunately, there have been several fires in the US deadlier than Lahaina. The Cocounut Grove fire in Boston in 1942 killed 420. It is an unfortunate tic in the media to always jump to superlatives.
It could turn out that Lahaina has more victims, but that's speculative at this point.
Posted by: Forbes | Aug 22 2023 17:10 utc | 43
Biden is the perfect figurehead for a senile and decadent capitalist state
Posted by: zeke2u | Aug 22 2023 17:10 utc | 44
The strategists for the Democratic Party and those concerned with winning elections should seriously think about replacing Biden with someone who is better at handling himself.The guy is physically incapable of running again, a palace coup will eliminate him. The question is really whether there is any possibility at all, Biden or no Biden, of an orderly election being recognized as fair by any majority in the US, or whether the current system collapse accelerates.
--- and:
On August 7 2023 a fire burned down a large part of the Lahaina, a city on Maui, Hawaii, with some 12,700 inhabitants. Thousands of homes were destroyed. At least 115 people died, some 850 are still missing. It was the deadliest fire in the U.S. in more than a century.The US is making "really exciting" progress on directed energy weapons like high-energy lasers
Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 22 2023 17:12 utc | 45
As with many comments here, Joe Biden is not relevant. He is the placeholder that the rich and powerful use to rule by proxy. His senility is a feature not a bug: he will never rock the boat or get his own ideas. And yes, the Democrats could run a frozen banana and win. And if not, if the Republicans have another shill, so what? The rich still win.
Trump is an asshole, wasting the first two years of his presidency being Paul Ryan's 'boy' was ludicrous... and don't get me started on the Jared Kushner presidency... but... he never declared war on the American people. He didn't open the borders to invasion by hordes of desperate third-world breeders. Even without the wall, at the end of his term immigration was down significantly - did you notice that wages started trending up and rents down? The Horror!
So I am voting for Trump just because he does not hate me and has not betrayed his nation. It probably won't matter but what else can I do?
Posted by: TG | Aug 22 2023 17:15 utc | 46
@ Posted by: Comandante | Aug 22 2023 16:28 utc | 26
Yes, what wakes them up is when the TV/Internet shuts-off or they find themselves (or family) on the front line.
Actually, family does not always do it:
I was on a flight (some years back) with a woman in seat next to me starts talking (of course) and somehow subject of conflict came-up (I think it was one of the Bush wars) and she started telling me how proud she was of her son who had served patriotically and basically suggesting what a great thing it was and I commented ()being the contrarian) that I had heard that many of the veterans were having emotional and family problems continuing long after they return. Then she starts telling me how her son was having difficulty returning to normal life and now could not hold a job and was always getting into fights and had problems with severe bouts of anger and that he and always been such a happy kid (at this point she is holding back tears) - so she had been lying to me and to herself about what a great experience it was. People keep their feelings to themselves and dont comment and suffer miserable, empty lives. I understand that still the suicide rate among veterans is elevated.
Posted by: jared | Aug 22 2023 17:17 utc | 47
The party that keeps ramming Diane Feinstein and Nancy Pelosi down the throat of voters isn't going to ditch Sleepy Joe any time soon.
And the voters? With or without the help of election fraud, too many keep voting for them.
More fools they...
Posted by: NaomiClareNL | Aug 22 2023 17:17 utc | 48
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 22 2023 17:09 utc | 42
I thought the US had infinite resources and are the world's masters of logistics?
No amount of mastery would justify attempting a needless visit. And you ask "what's left to rescue?" weeks after the disaster as opposed to the time immediately after that some people illogically insist on.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 22 2023 16:34 utc | 28
We get the leaders we deserve. Look upon the face of J. Biden. The collective face of America. Made flesh.
It would be a positive to say we deserve Biden. This sounds like a better looking face than that of a Khazar conspiracy nut. How many Auschwitz's are worth it to stop your pet conspiracy?
Posted by: Inkan1969 | Aug 22 2023 17:17 utc | 49
"The strategists for the Democratic Party and those concerned with winning elections" -- the main point for these "strategists" is to obfuscate the issues: There is no way to hide the fact that deciders that in US civic and political culture is on the decline, nor that central povers in the US y care for their own voters or inhabitants.Reich hardkc
Posted by: Tollef Ås/秋涛乐/טלפ וש | Aug 22 2023 17:18 utc | 50
@Forbes | Aug 22 2023 17:10
When one considers the scale of this fire and the images of the intense damage caused by equally intense heat, the speculation concerning the 850 that are still missing seems reasonable....though I hope I'm wrong. If people thought GW Bush was callous, post Katrina, what does this say about post-Lahaina Biden?
Posted by: zeke2u | Aug 22 2023 17:18 utc | 51
Posted by: Inkan1969 | Aug 22 2023 17:17 utc | 49
No amount of mastery would justify attempting a needless visit.
You contradict yourself now and your logic fails.
Your argument was based on alleged resource waste.
But if mastery were infinite there would be no question of resource limits.
Therefore the visit by a leader to his people would be well justified.
the time immediately after that some people illogically insist on.
There is nothing illogical about visiting "immediately after". In fact it is both logical (because it is after, not during) and wise (because it is immediate).
Not only is your logic a failure but your moral logic is a failure too.
a Khazar conspiracy nut. How many Auschwitz's are worth it to stop your pet conspiracy?
Oh? We're deflecting are we? Pathetic.
Try stay on topic, it's not that hard.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 22 2023 17:25 utc | 52
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 22 2023 17:25 utc | 52
because it is after, not during
Even here you concede it has to be after. Your idea of how much after is unreasonable.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 22 2023 16:54 utc | 34
What was in this post that was on topic?
Posted by: Inkan1969 | Aug 22 2023 17:29 utc | 53
Say what you want about Trump but he always ran towards the emergency zone.
And handed out water. Probably Trump Water. For the tax write-off.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 22 2023 17:29 utc | 54
People voted biden becouse they didnt like trump. Thats it.
Take a real hard look in the mirror, face the truth, ger over your collective amnesia, own it and stop whinging.
Posted by: Mark2 | Aug 22 2023 17:31 utc | 55
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 22 2023 17:29 utc | 54
Say what you want about Trump but he always ran towards the emergency zone.
Trump visited Puerto Rico on October 3; Hurricane Maria hit on September 20. About the same time difference as Biden in Hawaii. Trump spent only four hours in PR.
Posted by: Inkan1969 | Aug 22 2023 17:33 utc | 56
The US is a banana republic without the bananas. (I know, they might still grow a few in Hawaii and Florida.)
Posted by: Immaculate deception | Aug 22 2023 17:34 utc | 57
The "Rules-based" cabal doesn't care about consequences (see UKRAINE). Doubtful there will be a 2024 election during WWIII.
Posted by: Robert Italia | Aug 22 2023 17:35 utc | 58
"The people" didn't vote for Biden. More than one third of eligible voters didn't vote. The rest split between Trump and Biden.
Posted by: zeke2u | Aug 22 2023 17:35 utc | 59
Estimates of missing people following the fire range from 850 to over 1000. Maui is an island and there is no way to leave without being noticed and accounted for. By now, most of those who escaped have been found. Lahaina is only 23 miles from the main city on Maui. Those still missing are probably dead, either burned up in the fire or swept out to sea when they tried to escape by fleeing into the ocean. As of today, the Daily Mail reports an unofficial death toll of 480 (for whatever the Daily Mail is worth.)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12420893/Maui-wildfires-death-toll-update.html
Posted by: nazcalito | Aug 22 2023 17:35 utc | 60
Arch Bungle | Aug 22 2023 16:54 utc | 34--
Unfortunately, your screed is full of truths. Few Americans describe Vietnam as the Genocide of Southeast Asians as I do or have any understanding of why so many Nazis were not just imported into Canada and the USA but put back into governing positions in Germany and Japan after WW2. And what was the real purpose behind the McCartyite Red Scare of the 1950s? The answer is included in my comment @40 above. What was the goal of the "Businessmen's Coup" of 1934 that's scrubbed from history texts and FDR refused to prosecute? That refusal amounted to a pardon for treason, yet no historian of note has dug into it that I know of. Was the "Triumph of Conservatism" during the beginnings of the 20th Century as Kolko describes actually the beginnings of Fascism in the USA?
If US citizens had been informed of the truth about global and national issues, would they have allowed their national government to go rogue at WW2's end by nuking Japan and abetting Nazism? But we weren't told the truth; instead, we were lied to continually, and we're still lied to continuously. Empire of Lies was Putin's very apt description. Joe Walsh's "Living a Life of Illusion" was too much for many to handle, he of the expression: "You can't argue with a sick mind" that would describe the entire state of the federal government. And then there's that infamous scene with American film icon Jack Nicholson saying, "Truth! You can't handle the Truth!"
Biden is the perfect personification of a senescent empire with one foot in the grave.
Posted by: Immaculate deception | Aug 22 2023 17:39 utc | 62
Posted by: Inkan1969 | Aug 22 2023 17:33 utc | 56
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How did you feel about Trump's hustle to market his brand? 💰
I suspect that this conversation has the potential to help you heal a lot of trauma.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 22 2023 17:39 utc | 63
I live on Maui and I lived in Lahaina years ago before it changed and priced out most of the locals. Above in Lahainaluna is where the locals lived, that was mostly burned also. It is hot and very dry in the summer, this explains why the fire was predicted and has video of the fire starting.
"It was just a matter of time,” said Clay Trauernicht, wildland fire specialist at the University of Hawaii. “It was not if it was going to happen. It was when.” Is it a profit motive, like the billions to be made by reconstruction — is that why fires continue to be a serious danger every summer?"
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Posted by: kana | Aug 22 2023 17:40 utc | 64
@ 51
Nothing, Joe Biden is barely sentient.
It says quite a bit about "Joe Biden" though. *They're* really losing any deftness for PR, or maybe infighting in the de-facto regency council is causing incoherence in policy & public PR responses.
Regencies usually a cause of political dysfunction and the US polity is dysfunctional to start with...
Posted by: Urban Fox | Aug 22 2023 17:40 utc | 65
I live on Maui and I lived in Lahaina years ago before it changed and priced out most of the locals. Above in Lahainaluna is where the locals lived, that was mostly burned also. It is hot and very dry in the summer, this explains why the fire was predicted and has video of the fire starting.
"It was just a matter of time,” said Clay Trauernicht, wildland fire specialist at the University of Hawaii. “It was not if it was going to happen. It was when.” Is it a profit motive, like the billions to be made by reconstruction — is that why fires continue to be a serious danger every summer?"
From:Why The Fire On Maui Happened: The Real Truth
Posted by: kana | Aug 22 2023 17:41 utc | 66
People voted biden becouse they didnt like trump. Thats it.
Take a real hard look in the mirror, face the truth, ger over your collective amnesia, own it and stop whinging.
Posted by: Mark2 | Aug 22 2023 17:31 utc | 55
If Trump had gotten half of the fake votes he would have won easily.
Your government lies 24/7 and clueless dupes believe them 24/7.
Posted by: Drapetomaniac | Aug 22 2023 17:44 utc | 67
*cackles*
The unmasking of Earth's enemies is seemingly divine in its sublime majesty. Revenge is best served by such Mastery, for it is said to be Theirs alone. After revelation may come judgment, please!
Hubris begets Nemesis. Stasis crumbles to Entropy. A "Weekend at Bernie's" farce on an apocalyptic scale. Who could have wrote a comedy so divine it seems unbelievable?
*cackles louder*
Posted by: titmouse | Aug 22 2023 17:46 utc | 68
b : **** The strategists for the Democratic Party and those concerned with winning elections should seriously think about replacing Biden with someone who is better at handling himself.****
If a Grayzone report (21 August 2023) is correct, then it hardly matters who they run, since the US election next year seems destined to become little more than a massive (Kiev) Ukraine propaganda-fest arranged and funded by the Neocons.
Even a ga-ga Biden would suffice, if by then bit are not visibly falling off.
Just as the previous US election was reduced to a "forget all serious issues, just hate Trump" orgy ... and the 2019 Uk election had hardly any policy discussion but a constant deluge of (false) "Corbyn is antisemitic!" hysterical drivel enthusiastically relayed by the mass-media.
So much for the alleged "democracy" in NATO countries.
Posted by: Cynic | Aug 22 2023 17:50 utc | 69
marcjf | Aug 22 2023 15:53 utc | 3
*** But surely there is an ideal candidate in Harris?? Handling herself???***
Well, as Presidential campaigns go that certainly would be .. different.
Posted by: Cynic | Aug 22 2023 17:54 utc | 70
“The people" didn't vote for Biden. More than one third of eligible voters didn't vote. The rest split between Trump and Biden.Posted by: zeke2u | Aug 22 2023 17:35 utc | 59
Don’t blame me, I voted for Gloria La Riva. . .
Posted by: malenkov | Aug 22 2023 17:57 utc | 71
Tangent: small Canadian cities of Yellowknife and Kelowna threatened by wildfires, as well as the Shuswap region. **All areas grossly overdeveloped.**
So what now? History repeats itself or course correction? BBC covered it extensively for reasons I’m not sure of.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66550759
Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Aug 22 2023 17:58 utc | 72
You said correctly, the US A cares more about Ukraine than the US citizens who suffer a major disaster.
Leave to the neocon whom intend on killing every body on this earth except themselves .
The democrats will loose this coming election , Mr Biden cannot get a complete phrase and he is looking by day demented senile president and could not be reelected again .
They are many eligible democrats who could step in the race , but now it is too late , I think the republican will win this one .
The public is against the Ukraine war and massive monetary and military aid in the range of trillions of dollar .
Wake up Americans , we have no business being in Ukraine fighting loosing war .
Mr Biden is done .
Posted by: Bobby | Aug 22 2023 18:02 utc | 73
well if handling yourself means being able to come up with some generic comment on your own, or being able to navigate a stage, there are probably several that could handle that.
Posted by: pretzelattack | Aug 22 2023 18:03 utc | 74
Is it really worth, to look after a single politician without a bigger context?
What different types of culture organization can we find all over the world?
What kind of people are representing those different states?
How much influence has the single citizen in the system?
Does democracy exist for real?
The greeks for example excluded slaves, women, people without citizenship ... and thats quit a significant number.
Hollywood is still showing germans as nazis all the time.
The idea of race superority is not a big deal in the mind of the population anymore. We beg for forgiveness to Israel all the time, yet we are respecting there status as "the selected ones". We stand firm against facism, but support the ucraine at the same time. We adore the exeptionalist's for enriching our culture with Dagobert Duck and McDonalds.
And we want to be represented by Annalena Baerbock.
So each bulk of people (aka nation) has the representation it deserves.
I have seen different aproaches of organizing a culture in the same (my) country.
The main difference was the setup of the state. You can feel if participation is possible or not on the menu.
And if you are weak like niger, nobody in the west accepts when more than 75% of the population supports the de-election of there president.
Posted by: 600w | Aug 22 2023 18:09 utc | 75
Zeke2u @ 59
Couldn't have put it better myself,
By your own words...
Two thirds of Americans didnt vote trump.
Your glass half full comment shows an illogical bias.
Point made.
Lets be honest here...
The last American election was fought on one thing alone...
Whether or not you were happy to see black people gunned down on the streets, that was it, biden didnt even figure in the equation.
But funny that massive reality is never ever mentioned here or enywhere else.
Lets get back to reality. Even if its unpleasent.
Posted by: Mark2 | Aug 22 2023 18:12 utc | 76
Whether or not you were happy to see black people gunned down on the streets, that was it,
Posted by: Mark2 | Aug 22 2023 18:12 utc | 76
I am a history major from the University of Washington. I took three African American history courses, one African history course,
and made subaltern history, particularly black American history major focus of my studies.
I also participated in numerous anti-police brutality demonstrations, including for Eric Garner and Freddie Gray.
So to you I say: Fuck you.
Posted by: UWDude | Aug 22 2023 18:18 utc | 77
You have the leaders you deserve.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 22 2023 16:54 utc | 34
I like your comments typically Arch, but slandering 300 million wage/debt slaves for the crimes of their billionaire masters? Believe it or not, those same slaves would be the world's most powerful allies against the US imperialism we all hate.
Turning on the workers in the US is just an international version of the same divide and rule psyops I noted in my first comment. They don't deserve Joe Biden or the imperialists anymore than the global south does.
In your rage today, your just aiding the ruling class by sowing division amongst their victims.
Everyone needs to be more conscious of this trap. It's one of the serial problems of perspective I notice at the bar, which is otherwise filled with intelligent critical thinkers.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 22 2023 18:27 utc | 78
Posted by: ISL | Aug 22 2023 15:57 utc | 7
Mexico's election rigging techniques are clearly not as good as those of the United States. The latter is developed and the former is developing, which is why we only hear about election rigging in developing countries. /not joke
Posted by: Colin | Aug 22 2023 18:36 utc | 79
Until statehood Hawaii came under the insular case laws. These laws are based on racism and restricted the Human Rights and birth rights of the inhabitants of US territorial Islands.
The legacy of imperialism left the Islands completely dependent on the US mainland. For example they import 90% of their food and all of their fuel even though their is plenty of fertile land and they are literally sitting on top of a unlimited supply of volcanic energy. Hawaii is little more than an exploited colony, hence the cost of land while US billionaires buy complete Island for playgrounds and grow almost nothing.
The Biden administration specifically asked the Supreme Court not to take up Fitisemanu v. United States and overturn the Insular Cases, which gives you some idea of what kind of hypocrites resides in the White House.
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/06/immigration-law-modern-slavery/529446/
For example: The insular cases created a situation where modern slavery and human trafficking was the norm in the Northern Mariana Islands until 2017 and the same in Cuba until its liberation for imperial rule. We have all heard about what went on in Haiti during and after last US 30 year occupation. And only recently Bush used the same concepts of laws to avoid human rights and the constitution the US laws at camp known X-ray.
The fact is everyone under US occupation or within its territories should enjoy the protections of the constitution if we claim to be any different from European colonialists.
Unfortunately Hawaii is still resides in the shadow of US colonialism even though they are a state,
Posted by: ATM | Aug 22 2023 18:37 utc | 80
You have no source for that $700 number. The sources you do have include unreliable sources such as Fox News and Press TV. And it would've been an obvious mistake for Biden to go sooner as he would've been in the way of rescue operations.
Posted by: Inkan1969 | Aug 22 2023 16:34 utc | 27
No comment
Posted by: nwwoods | Aug 22 2023 18:39 utc | 81
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 22 2023 18:27 utc | 78
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He's not wrong. Many of the slaves accept their position and their masters.
And thus, the leaders they get display the same defeated spirit and lack of capability.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 22 2023 18:40 utc | 82
Nah, I like it when it's perfectly clear that none of these sockpuppets give any sort of crap about the citizens, and ol' Joey hairplugs certainly conveys that. What do you you want, a fake, relentlessly touchy-feely jargon spewer who also doesn't actually give a rats ass about you?
Posted by: JP | Aug 22 2023 18:42 utc | 83
Posted by: Comandante | Aug 22 2023 16:07 utc | 13
Frozen bananas don't rape women, demand high wages, possess useless arrogance, or require the state to pay high prices for protection.
Clearly, this is the least worst possible candidate for president.
He can't even issue pardons to businessmen who pay politicians, perfect.
Posted by: Colin | Aug 22 2023 18:43 utc | 84
The Democrats want Michele Obama as a nominee....that's cooking at the moment but few know about it....
Posted by: AI | Aug 22 2023 18:44 utc | 85
@ nwwoods | Aug 22 2023 18:39 utc | 81
Congratulations! You just won the thread . . .
Posted by: malenkov | Aug 22 2023 18:49 utc | 86
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 22 2023 16:54 utc | 34:
You have the leaders you deserve.
Yup! You got that right!
Posted by: Oriental Voice | Aug 22 2023 18:51 utc | 87
Posted by: ATM | Aug 22 2023 18:37 utc | 80
Strictly speaking, the United States itself, like Israel, is the ultimate incarnation of European colonialism, and the worse of these, settlement colonialism.
Israel is even worse because they refuse to recognize themselves as Europeans. Zionists falsely claim that those European Jewish believers and other Jewish believers from other part of Middle East in the Occupied Palestine are natives, saying that native Palestinians are from the Arabian Peninsula and have simply embraced the local culture while ignoring the scholarly consensus that Palestinians are the Arabization of the natives.
Posted by: Colin | Aug 22 2023 18:55 utc | 88
Posted by: Oriental Voice | Aug 22 2023 18:51 utc | 86
You're pleased with your imperial politics. Good for you, misanthrope.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 22 2023 19:03 utc | 89
@ Inkan1969 | Aug 22 2023 17:17 utc | 49
Re: "It would be a positive to say we deserve Biden. This sounds like a better looking face than that of a Khazar conspiracy nut. How many Auschwitz's are worth it to stop your pet conspiracy?"
1. Check out the Cast of Characters that put Biden in office,
https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/
"This is the inside story of the conspiracy to save the 2020 election, based on access to the group’s inner workings . . .
That’s why the participants want the secret history of the 2020 election told, even though it sounds like a paranoid fever dream–a well-funded cabal of powerful people, ranging across industries and ideologies, working together behind the scenes to influence perceptions, change rules and laws, steer media coverage and control the flow of information. They were not rigging the election; they were fortifying it. And they believe the public needs to understand the system’s fragility in order to ensure that democracy in America endures."
2. Check out the Cast of Characters in major government offices who are making the decisions affecting US legal process; foreign policy; economics; the Cast of Characters that is pulling the stings on the puppet elected by the "cabal of powerful people" who, "behind the scenes" "changed the laws" to "ensure the proper outcome" of this "democratic" process.
Posted by: ChasMark | Aug 22 2023 19:04 utc | 90
He's not wrong. Many of the slaves accept their position and their masters.
And thus, the leaders they get display the same defeated spirit and lack of capability.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 22 2023 18:40 utc
Many of the slaves of wherever your from accept US imperialism. I suppose they also deserve it. Very "spiritual" take, Love.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 22 2023 19:10 utc | 91
@ Ahenobarbus | Aug 22 2023 18:27 utc | 78
Hear, hear.
Arch Bungle, wherever he's from, enjoys putting down US citizens calling them sheeple, and then inconsistently publishes many examples of lies from crooked US elected politicians, which Bungle says the people deserve, via the awful media totally engaged in the constant disinformation published daily.
US citizens have displayed their disfavor with this awful situation with two-thirds of the populace disapproving of the Congress here and what more can they do.
Posted by: Don Bacon | Aug 22 2023 19:34 utc | 92
Many of the slaves of wherever your from accept US imperialism. I suppose they also deserve it. Very "spiritual" take, Love.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 22 2023 19:10 utc | 90
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I don't deal in deserve or not deserve. That's God's purview.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 22 2023 19:36 utc | 93
US citizens have displayed their disfavor with this awful situation with two-thirds of the populace disapproving of the Congress here and what more can they do.
Posted by: Don Bacon | Aug 22 2023 19:34 utc | 91
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Unfortunately, as Americans, the Founders set a very high bar over what to do.
Note: this is not a call to revolution or to break any laws.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 22 2023 19:38 utc | 94
GPD | Aug 22 2023 15:56 utc | 5
Bring in another Covid crisis, more absentees votes and the Biden wins
its-really-happening-mask-mandates-contact-tracing-re-implemented-colleges-offices
Headline on a Zero Hedge article today.
Grit your teeth!
Posted by: john | Aug 22 2023 19:42 utc | 95
Posted by: Don Bacon | Aug 22 2023 19:34 utc | 91
What's really tragic is he pretty much gets it but for that one defect of mistaking the slaves for the masters and blaming both for the deeds of the latter.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 22 2023 19:47 utc | 96
@Mark2 | Aug 22 2023 18:12
You should never assume. I didn't vote for Trump. My glass wasn't "half-full", either. Almost 2/3's didn't vote for Biden, too. I would never vote for either party - they both are corporate and give us war. Beneath the very thin liberal facade is a fascist/corporate state. Neither party is worth considering. Voting doesn't change what really needs to be changed - period.
Posted by: zeke2u | Aug 22 2023 19:48 utc | 97
Imagine if the millions of Americans dissatisfied with Congress channeled their intellect and energy into organizing in a manner to improve the situation OUTSIDE of the rigged voting paradigm. I have no doubt there are countless effective, non-violent, and legal ways to improve things.
The elections serve a purpose. I think it was Nigel Farage who said that elections are pressure releases for the citizens. You may dislike your government, and think it is evil, but as long as you voted, you can rationalize that you offered some resistance.
Today people think that if they answer a poll about how much Congress sucks, or how many times they call a constituency office, or however many sternly worded emails they send to their "representative" they are pushing back.
And even after decades, people still think any of that works. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 22 2023 19:50 utc | 98
So to you I say: Fuck you.
Posted by: UWDude | Aug 22 2023 18:18 utc | 77
UDub academia, a great way to experience black culture first hand. I am sure all the Far Left White Lesbian and Jewish professors share all their first hand experiences in inner city drug gangs and the deep south.
Posted by: Turk 152 | Aug 22 2023 19:57 utc | 99
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I did'nt assume anything, thats your asuption. I replyed in the presant context of your comment and that only.
That said i agree totaly with your clarified comment.
Its a reality.
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So its not a binary choice one or the other. They both have a lot of inocent blood on their hands..
Why vote for a known murderer?
Americans have got a long road to travel before they can be a member of the international comunity.
Fist they need to reclaim the media, all of it.
Then remove the curuption from its institutions all of them.
Easyer said than done.
Hope you agree.
Cheers
Posted by: Mark2 | Aug 22 2023 20:07 utc | 100
The comments to this entry are closed.
When you've got rigged voting machines, no-fault, mail-in voting and ballot harvesting on an industrial scale you don't need to be concerned with winning elections.
Posted by: Phil R | Aug 22 2023 15:47 utc | 1