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August 30, 2023
Open (Not Ukraine) Thread 205

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interesting article… bevin and others might enjoy it..
Will they try to assassinate Trump?
The imperial oligarchy is in mortal fear of the American people.

Posted by: james | Sep 1 2023 15:28 utc | 102

Posted by: Debsisdead | Sep 1 2023 6:18 utc | 93
When I began watching an episode and evening last week, I was also struck by the way that the amerikan propaganda about the Ukraine conflict is virtually word for word the same as the tosh england spoke during ww1.
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England is still in the thick of it…
https://alexkrainer.substack.com/p/will-they-try-to-assassinate-trump

In researching for my twice banned book, “Grand Deception,” I’ve come to realize that the main driver of imperialism, colonialism, coups, assassinations and permanent wars around the world is the still undead British Empire. Granted, the British Empire we learned about in school is long gone, but as with most of what they taught us, there’s more to that story. For starters, we should not conflate the empire with its host nation: the empire is a system of governance controlled by a parasitic network of vested interests which infiltrate a nation’s political, diplomatic, military and cultural institutions in order to use them for their own benefit.
About a century ago, this same network, centered around the western banking cartel, switched hosts and infiltrated American institutions. Today, it appears as the “American Empire.” Of course, the United States is merely the host to the same parasite, but whose ideological and spiritual headquarters remains the City of London.
Kissinger: I work for the Brits!
Here is how Henry Kissinger articulated the result of London’s infiltration of the American governing structures in a speech on British-American relations delivered at a May 1981 event at the Royal Institute for International Affairs (now renamed as Chatham House). Describing his collaboration with the British Foreign Office as US Secretary of State, Kissinger said that,
“The British were so matter-of-factly helpful that they became a participant in internal American deliberations, to a degree probably never practiced between sovereign nations… In my White House incarnation then, I kept the British Foreign Office better informed and more closely engaged than I did the American State Department.”
Kissinger’s statement reveals his loyalties, which are clearly with the parasite and not with the American people. That revelation goes far in explaining his illustrious career and influence which has remained considerable to this day.
But in spite of the matter-of-factly helpful guidance from the British, things haven’t been smooth for the US-led empire. In the recent years, it has sustained one defeat after another, finding itself incapable of effectively projecting power. ….

[no doubt to be continued…]
That definition of empire is bang on. Last year I passed by the City on the top deck of a double-decker tourist bus with my son and grandchildren and at some point we passed by the City. Maybe it is just projection on my part, but along with almost entirely empty streets, all the windows seemed dark even though it was a bright sunny day, and impossible to see into, but nobody inside gazing out either. There was more a sense of absence than presence; a dark hole or dark matter feeling…. Come to think of it ,I felt something similar in the main cathedral at the Vatican decades ago, a dark presence of absence….

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 1 2023 15:37 utc | 103

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 1 2023 15:05 utc | 100
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Thanks for the pointer to Ublock origin. I was unaware of it, as I got tired of the never-ending escalation in ads vs ad blockers. I will give it a try.

Posted by: john brewster | Sep 1 2023 15:48 utc | 104

Posted by: john brewster | Sep 1 2023 14:59 utc | 99

I don’t think I have room on my hard drive for 5 hours x 3 worth of video.

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So, I downloaded one episode. A half hour uses 360 MB. So the whole series would only be 5.4 GB. I have plenty of room. The video is ~600 x 400 x 24 fps. Surprisingly, it is watchable at full screen on a 27″ monitor. Another surprise is that they retimed the old jerky video very well for the 1960s. Sound quality is perfect.
I will be watching.

Posted by: john brewster | Sep 1 2023 15:56 utc | 105

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 31 2023 19:55 utc | 84
Yes, indeed, only fools or sneaks would say that BRICS doesn’t have common values. The mouthpieces get away with it as they know Joe Average is either not smart enough , too tired , or both , to go check for themselves. They know the headline or comment gist sticks in people’s minds and that is what counts.

Posted by: Wondrous | Sep 1 2023 16:18 utc | 106

OK, will step away after this for today, but this BRICS stuff has been popping lately. Here are two more articles which just came out but analyzing the most recent declaration from BRICS from last week, whereas mine and karlof1’s above was from 2022.
https://edwardslavsquat.substack.com/p/sustainable-development-its-what

Sustainable development: It’s what BRICS craves!
Can we talk about the Johannesburg II Declaration?

He then goes through several points from the document, which you can get as pdf via links, much as I did above with the 2022 Declaration. And concludes by recommending a second, more thorough article:
https://telegra.ph/BRICS—a-key-instrument-for-establishing-the-New-World-Order-08-29

BRICS – a key instrument for establishing the New World Order
Yourie Roshka August 29, 2023

After publishing two successive articles on the BRICS Summit in Johannesburg[1], in which I showed that this conglomerate of countries does not represent an alternative to unipolar globalization, the final document[2] of this meeting fully confirms my approach. The BRICS represents a key element in the globalist strategy of implementing a global coup d’état and establishing the New World Order.

These pieces are far more critical than I at this point, but I cannot say I disagree with their thrust. BRICS and Globalism are one and the same. And what they don’t cover is how or whether the West’s elites are aligned. On the one hand we have this tectonic struggle around Ukraine, but on the other hand both the West and Russia-China are all-in with WHO, WTO, IMF etc.
Something doesn’t add up. I smell foul play…

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 1 2023 16:25 utc | 107

Not to take away from Scorpion’s thoughts above, but what do you think is going on in Latvia?
Have you heard that Latvia is deporting some Russian-speakers ? It has given some f the chosen three months to leave. It was on Gilbert Doctorow’s site. Apparently, one condition to stay now is that you must prove proficiency in Latvian in written exams AND write a statement attesting to the fact you deplore Russia’s invasion of the Ukraine!
Remember that Riga , its capital is majority Russian-speaking as is Tallin in Estonia .
Note how this story breaks at about the time drones attacked Pskov airport ,msupposedly from Estonia or Latvia. The US is really pushing for an escalation.

Posted by: Wondrous | Sep 1 2023 17:44 utc | 108

https://new.thecradle.co/articles/two-years-after-its-afghan-withdrawal-us-credibility-is-at-rock-bottom
Two years after its Afghan withdrawal, US credibility is at rock bottom
On the second anniversary of the humiliating US exit from Afghanistan, those consequences have become clear. The substantial damage it wreaked on Washington’s reputation and soft power has US allies beating a path to improve relations with America’s global challengers.
Mohamad Hasan

Posted by: AW | Sep 1 2023 20:49 utc | 109

https://new.thecradle.co/articles/no-respite-for-france-as-a-new-africa-rises
No respite for France as a ‘New Africa’ rises
Like dominos, African states are one by one falling outside the shackles of neocolonialism. Chad, Guinea, Mali, Burkina Faso, Niger, and now Gabon are saying ‘non’ to France’s longtime domination of African financial, political, economic, and security affairs.
Pepe Escobar

Posted by: AW | Sep 1 2023 20:59 utc | 110

Alternative to American toilet-paper-substitute The NewsWeek…
https://www.mintpressnews.com/false-witnesses-sinister-plots-exposing-cia-connection-chinese-police-station-narrative/285021/
FALSE WITNESSES AND SINISTER PLOTS: EXPOSING THE CIA CONNECTION IN THE ‘CHINESE POLICE STATION’ NARRATIVE
JUNE 16TH, 2023
By KIT KLARENBERG
For months, mainstream media across the Western world – in particular English-language outlets based in the constituent members of the ‘Five Eyes’ global spying network – have been rabidly awash with terrifying news of secret “Chinese police stations” operating the world over.

Posted by: MD | Sep 1 2023 21:13 utc | 111

HELLO AGENT ORANGE
https://dissidentvoice.org/2023/08/whitewashing-down-under-the-vietnam-war-fifty-years-on/
Whitewashing Down Under: The Vietnam War Fifty Years On
by Binoy Kampmark / August 29th, 2023
The Vietnam War tormented and tore the societies who saw fit to participate in it. It defined a generation culturally and politically in terms creative and fractious. And it showed up the rulers to be ignorant rather than bright; blundering fools rather than sages secure in their preaching. Five decades on, the political classes in the United States and Australia are still seeking to find reasons for intervening in a country they scant understood, with a fanatic’s persuasion, and ideologue’s conviction, a moralist’s certainty.
Old errors die hard.
L

Posted by: MD | Sep 1 2023 21:41 utc | 112

Use your translater:
https://publikumskonferenz.de/blog/hunger-als-waffe-baerbocks-gehaessige-zweckluege/#more-8475
Hunger als Waffe“: Baerbocks gehässige Zwecklüge
Hysterischer Russenhass zerfrisst das letzte bisschen Restverstand / Selbsttäuschung über die tödlichen EU-Sanktionen
Hunger As A Weapon – Baerbock’s nasty lies…
Hysterical hate of Russia destroys even the last little bits of remaining sound minds in Germany’s mass media.
Also, self-betray of deadly EU-sanctions.

Posted by: MD | Sep 1 2023 22:15 utc | 113

From an Ex-American in Russia:
https://halfreeman.wordpress.com/2023/08/21/misinformation-updates-and-family-status/
As I have previously noted, Angela Merkel, former Chancellor of Germany, and Francois Holland, then president of France, admitted they were lying all the time.
They wanted to trick Russia so that Ukraine could build up its military for a coming conflict. They were quite open about it after they left office.
Then Matthew Hoh goes on this program to discuss the conflict, and totally misrepresents how and why it began. I cannot say whether Hoh is just that ignorant or maybe he just wanted to adopt the safe route: Blame Putin! Was it ignorance, cowardice or both on Hoh’s part?

Posted by: MD | Sep 1 2023 22:31 utc | 115

https://news.cgtn.com/news/2023-08-27/China-makes-breakthrough-in-controllable-nuclear-fusion-tech-1mBx4sW4gtW/index.html
China made a breakthrough in controllable nuclear fusion technology on Saturday.
Huanliu-3 (HL-3), the country’s new-generation “artificial sun,” realized high-confinement mode operation with a plasma current of one million amperes for the first time, according to the China National Nuclear Corporation (CNNC).
The breakthrough puts the operational level of China’s magnetic confinement nuclear fusion device at the forefront of the world, marking an important milestone in the country’s development of nuclear fusion energy.

Posted by: AW | Sep 1 2023 22:52 utc | 116

https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-government-sued-hiding-information-afghan-refugees-detention-camps/5831022
US Government Sued for Hiding Information on Afghan Refugees in Detention Camps
The Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR) and Muslim Advocates sued multiple United States government agencies that have refused to produce key information on thousands of Afghan refugees still living in limbo at secretive detention sites.
In August 2021, over 124,000 Afghan civilians were evacuated. Yet as described in a filed complaint [PDF], the “evacuees” were sent to “processing” sites for medical screening and security vetting. They were supposed to receive visas or parole that would allow them to enter the U.S., but numerous Afghans “remain stranded” at sites that are reportedly overseen or controlled by the U.S. government.

Posted by: AW | Sep 1 2023 23:19 utc | 117

https://www.globalresearch.ca/draconian-law-institutes-extreme-censorship-internet-global-basis/5831047
A Draconian New Law Went Into Effect on August 25th that Institutes Extreme Censorship of the Internet on a Global Basis
By Michael Snyder
The Internet just changed forever, but most people living in the United States don’t even realize what just happened. A draconian new law known as the “Digital Services Act” went into effect in the European Union on Friday, and it establishes an extremely strict regime of Internet censorship that is far more authoritarian than anything we have ever seen before. From this point forward, hordes of European bureaucrats will be the arbiters of what is acceptable to say on the Internet. If they discover something that you have said on a large online platform that they do not like, they can force that platform to take it down, because someone in Europe might see it. So even though this is a European law, the truth is that it is going to have a tremendous impact on all of us.

Posted by: AW | Sep 1 2023 23:24 utc | 118

https://www.globalresearch.ca/ny-times-admits-it-sends-stories-us-government-approval-before-publication/5681831
The New York Times has publicly acknowledged that it sends some of its stories to the US government for approval from “national security officials” before publication.
This confirms what veteran New York Times correspondents like James Risen have said: The American newspaper of record regularly collaborates with the US government, suppressing reporting that top officials don’t want made public.

Posted by: MD | Sep 1 2023 23:28 utc | 119

https://www.globalresearch.ca/guantanamo-prisoners-international-day-victims-enforced-disappearances/5830858?doing_wp_cron=1693610903.1104609966278076171875
Unveiling Shadows: Guantánamo Prisoners and the International Day of the Victims of Enforced Disappearances
Despite the fact that the United States has routinely and openly violated the human rights of its own citizens as well as communities across the globe, the government rarely has any qualms about condemning the violations of other countries. These condemnations, almost always hypocritical, however, often do more to shine light on its own abuses and the lack of accountability.

Posted by: MD | Sep 1 2023 23:31 utc | 120

Another Knowledge Day has arrived and now mostly gone in Russia where some excellent events took place–speeches and interactions with students by both Putin and Lavrov that made for two very long articles that document those activities. They are in two parts–if I’d tried to post them here, they’d be four parts. The URLs will look the same but they aren’t. Part One, https://karlof1.substack.com/p/knowledge-day-2023-russias-unique
Part Two, https://karlof1.substack.com/p/knowledge-day-2023-russias-unique-6b5
The two leaders interactions with some of Russia’s brightest kids is very illuminating. The events show very well how Russia’s beating the West via educating its human capital to the nth degree.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 1 2023 23:42 utc | 121

https://nitter.net/snarwani
Sharmine Narwani retweeted
Bevin Chu 朱炳文
@Bevin83994661
Aug 28
Japan refuses to allow inspection of Fukushima nuclear waste water.
The US refuses to allow outside inspection of USAMRIID facilities at Fort Detrick.
The US demanded outside inspection of the Wuhan institute, AND GOT IT, TWICE.
So just exactly who has something to hide?

Posted by: AW | Sep 1 2023 23:58 utc | 122

Chinese officials are claiming Russian territories and https://ria.ru/20230831/mid-1893494661.html is the government’s response.
Vladimir Putin also announced schools should teach Mandarin. https://www.rt.com/russia/582244-russian-schools-chinese-putin
Boris Nemtsov was right when he said Vladimir Putin and his clique would turn Russia into Beijing’s ‘resource colony’.

Posted by: Slavy | Sep 2 2023 0:37 utc | 123

I’m wondering about the possible future of BRICS.
It could keep expanding, forming an ever bigger counterweight (Global Majority) to the West.
But is that the goal?
imo China doesn’t want a divided world, but *one world* whose regions complement each other to form a whole – confucian doctrine. For similar reasons, not only Iran is integrated, but 5 regional countries.
BRICS’ key goal is substantial reforms of global institutions – wouldn’t that make BRICS itself expandable, once these reforms are secured?
Also, I don’t see any attempts to formalize the alliance.

Posted by: smuks | Sep 2 2023 0:46 utc | 124

I believe in Chrome and Firefox you can use Ublock Origin to the same effect.
Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 1 2023 15:05 utc | 100

Opera (unfortunately Chromium kernel, but integrated ad blocker) + uBlockOrigin + AdGuard (both redundant, I know).
What is advertising? 🙂

Posted by: Nobody | Sep 2 2023 0:55 utc | 125

https://nitter.net/GodfreeTrh
Aug 31
John Ross:
Today, the U.S. systematically lies about the state of China and its own economy because it is crucial for U.S. capitalism to prevent its own citizens, and close allies, from understanding the real economic trends.
ILO inflation-adjusted wages shows that for most countries to 2022, and for India to 2021 – China’s annual real wage growth was 4.7 per cent.
For Britain it was 0.1 per cent, for the U.S. it was 0.3 per cent, in France it was minus 0.4 per cent, in Germany minus 0.7 per cent and in India minus 1.3 per cent.
Why are real wages rising 18 times as fast in China as in the U.S., 44 times as fast as in Britain, while in France, Germany or India real wages are falling?
QUESTION: “Why is China’s economy hugely outperforming the U.S. and the rest of the capitalist West and, “what lessons can we learn from China’s economy that is so outperforming the West?”
ANSWER: Because China allocates 58% of GDP to wages. It’s that simple.
mronline.org/2023/08/31/the-…

Posted by: AW | Sep 2 2023 1:06 utc | 126

Hiya
Here as promised is BBC The Great War Pts 11-20
The next tranche will follow in about 24 hours. If people are downloading and watching this, on completion it could be worthy of a discussion about how closely that conflict has the same deceptions and terrible leadership as the current one in Ukraine has. Naturally it doesn’t delve too deeply into the role that the englander royal family played in the Tsar & his families deaths.
It is also rather dodgy on the Bolsheviks rise to power as well as the Russian peace settlement as although anti-soviet propaganda in england was less rabid in 1964 than the amerikan anti-soviet stuff of the same period, there is still some of that in the series, mostly however the series reflects the horror of the war while emphasising how much of that was kept out of the media at the time.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Sep 2 2023 3:25 utc | 127

Posted by: Debsisdead | Sep 2 2023 3:25 utc | 128
I downloaded the whole series via a torrent site. I also got one with just interviews.
There is the history aspect, which is always both fascinating and questionable. But I am very much appreciating seeing how people moved and spoke from that generation, which is my grandfather’s generation basically. It is striking how different and distant that time now appears looking through the lens of grainy old black and white photography. It seems so far away, but given my age, that time is closer to when I was born than today is. That feels funny somehow.
They spoke more clearly than we do, and with more literary flair because they read so much more.
The other thing impressing is how natural it was for them to come together in the streets, in parks, wherever. You often see classes or groups dressed almost identically, whether workers with caps, toffs with hats, housewives with scarves. They flocked together more.
One scene:
after retreating for days, exhausted, the men complained to their officers that they wanted to turn around and fight. Even after suffering terrible casualties only a few days earlier. They were men. Men like to fight.
And death held less fear.
Very different societal container.
All sides very much part of a people, a country. We have little idea these days how that feels. I grew up with it post-war 50s-60s London; but it evaporated along the way, maybe in the 70’s…

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 2 2023 3:43 utc | 128

Posted by: Nobody | Sep 2 2023 0:55 utc | 126
Opera (unfortunately Chromium kernel, but integrated ad blocker) + uBlockOrigin + AdGuard (both redundant, I know).
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Strange… I wonder if it’s because am using Linux OS? I doubt but…. have never seen ads on Youtube.
What is advertising? 🙂
Ads = advertising. Americans say commercials. All the same. I think! Who knows. Vocabularies change quickly these days…

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 2 2023 3:53 utc | 129

Milei is now ahead in the polls in Argentina. He’s anti-China which is a bit worrying.

Posted by: Accidentshappy | Sep 2 2023 3:58 utc | 130

Posted by: Debsisdead | Sep 2 2023 3:25 utc | 128
Thank you for the next 10 episodes.
Much as I would like to discuss this, I haven’t got 13 hours to binge watch this. I can probably watch a few random episodes for the kind of observations Scorpion is making, though.

Posted by: john brewster | Sep 2 2023 4:44 utc | 131

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 2 2023 3:43 utc | 129
Without having watched it yet, i hear you about viewing the recent past. I have always been struck by the huge throngs in the streets in any photo between 1890 and 1950. As for literate speech, I always found FDR and Churchill’s speaking to be distinctly theatrical – playing to the audience as if on stage. People back then took this as the natural way to address a crowd, so it wasn’t perceived as stilted.
The whole hat thing seems a bizarre social convention with roots in being outdoors much more back then. Hats went away before I became an adult. Never owned a real hat.
As for discussing the series’ take on the war, give me some time, please.

Posted by: john brewster | Sep 2 2023 4:49 utc | 132

What is advertising? 🙂
Ads = advertising. Americans say commercials. All the same. I think! Who knows. Vocabularies change quickly these days…
Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 2 2023 3:53 utc | 130

The question was rhetorical. In the sense that when using Opera, it is easy to forget that parts of the internet are ad-supported.

Posted by: Nobody | Sep 2 2023 4:54 utc | 133

For those who think that only the White House sells snake oil: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5dGCZAS41k
Only 29 people died during the manmade floods to save Beijing and new Beijing.
Also, Santa really exists.

Posted by: Antonym | Sep 2 2023 8:15 utc | 134

@ Slavy | Sep 2 2023 0:37 utc | 124
On the bottom of your link to RIA Novosti .ru about China’s claim on Russia’s big inland Bolshoy Ussuriysky Island there is a reference to China’s claim on Indian Arunachal Pradesh and part of Kashmir: https://ria.ru/20230829/protest-1892987810.html
Moscow knows its eastern and southern neighborhood way better than most of this bar’s pundits because it stays sober. Keeps wishful views away from seeing reality. Why run from bully A to bully C? B serious.

Posted by: Antonym | Sep 2 2023 8:34 utc | 135

https://canadianpatriot.org/2023/08/29/international-rules-based-order-vs-un-charter-what-you-need-to-understand-now/
By Matthew Ehret
It has become increasingly commonplace amongst alternative media analysts to see efforts to reframe the conflict between multipolar vs unipolar systems as little more than a chimera completely devoid of meaning for those who are “wise” to the Great Game.
UN is NOT the League of Nations
It has become a widely held belief that the United Nations was merely a re-branded League of Nations which itself was created in the wake of World War 1 by leading grand strategists of the British Empire in order to usher in one world government.
This is a lie.
Not only does the United Nations Charter enshrine the sovereignty of nation states as a sacred pillar, but also enshrines the principle of self-determination of all peoples and forbids any military intervention of any nation into another sovereign nation. If you have 25 minutes, I recommend investing in a short primer on international law that gave rise to this charter in 1945.

Posted by: MD | Sep 2 2023 12:03 utc | 136

And now, a tribute to the British media. From the Daily Mail:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12472421/Mohamed-Al-Fayed-buried-son-family-mausoleum.html
Mohamed Al Fayed is buried next to his son at the family mausoleum as former Harrods tycoon passes away at age 94 – almost 26 years to the day since Dodi died in car crash with Princess Diana
An excerpt:
“Mr Al Fayed went to his grave holding on to his obsession that his son and Princess Diana were murdered in a Paris road tunnel on August 31, 1997.
At Diana’s inquest in London, the bitter billionaire explosively accused Prince – now King – Charles of being ‘happy’ now that the Royal Family had ‘cleared the decks, they finished her, they murdered her’.
He spent more than a decade pedalling his bizarre and damaging conspiracy theories about the Royal Family’s alleged involvement in the car crash.
Mr Al Fayed was the world’s 1,493rd richest person, according to Forbes, worth an estimated $2 billion (£1.59 billion). He installed the Egyptian Room in his Knightsbridge store, which boasted several busts of himself, and he also created a memorial to Dodi and Diana, who were dating at the time of their deaths.
He is thought to have believed the couple were hours away from announcing their engagement.”

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Sep 2 2023 12:15 utc | 137

http://www.vineyardsaker.de/2023/08/21/dies-und-das-dr-sabine-ein-pracht-professor-und-ein-blick-auf-sehr-schmerzhafte-folgen/
That’s quite an interesting site, outside the official box-system and those GERMANs comment who’re not a member of that mass-media-sheeple-crowd.
Of course, you must use a translater.

Posted by: AE | Sep 2 2023 12:27 utc | 138

Posted by: MD | Sep 2 2023 12:03 utc | 137
From the link MD provuded:
“It has become increasingly commonplace amongst alternative media analysts to see efforts to reframe
the conflict between multipolar vs unipolar systems as little more than a chimera completely devoid
of meaning for those who are “wise” to the Great Game.”
– Matthew Ehret
The poster Scorpion is one of those to whom Ehret is referring there.

BRICS and Globalism are one and the same. And what they don’t cover is how or whether the West’s elites are aligned. On the one hand we have this tectonic struggle around Ukraine, but on the other hand both the West and Russia-China are all-in with WHO, WTO, IMF etc.
Something doesn’t add up. I smell foul play…
Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 1 2023 16:25 utc | 108

The bar should be aware of Scorpion’s position as he expresses it frequently while
at the same time exhibiting an overbearing presence which tends to hide or obfuscate that.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Sep 2 2023 12:36 utc | 139

A place to go to agree to disagree sometimes, quite some range of views and discussions…
https://titaniclifeboatacademy.org/

Posted by: MD | Sep 2 2023 12:39 utc | 140

Latin America update
This podcast between Alan MacLeod and Ollie Vargas gives a very good and broad update on many countries in Latin America. Ollie is half Brit half Bolivian, lives in Bolivia, survived being targeted for assassination during the year of the coup and runs Kausechun news I think out of La Paz now. He is very well informed and networked throughout the region and gives lots of bullet points on what’s going on now. Here are a few.
Chile: Boric is total woke… very pro Zelensky, anti Russia, Cuba, Nicaragua. Venezuela.
Ecuador: really bad. U.S. is working with military on a coup.
Mexico: AMLO is amazing, threading many needles, positioning to join BRICS, reducing U.S. military footprint.
Bolivia: economy has been rapidly re-oriented to big public sector projects; very strong economy, will join BRICS.
Let me know if this link doesn’t work. It’s a podcast.
https://tunein.com/podcasts/News–Politics-Podcasts/MintCast-p1219238/?topicId=315751312

Posted by: migueljose | Sep 2 2023 13:02 utc | 141

US empire collapsing at the border
This is a 55 minute video of a ride with the Yuma, Arizona county sheriff, explains a fair amount of detail on what’s happening. He’s a Trump guy so gives that perspective, but in his defense there’s a lot to hate about Biden.
I have a good friend (since we were in kindergarten) who lives 5 miles from the border there, corroborates this perspective while he still identifies as a democrat even though he lives in a shack himself. He says it’s totally broken down, not safe.
RFK jr. visited Yuma area last month and gave a similar account.
bottom line, lots of people and drugs coming across, cartels have increased their involvement, US orgs not coordinating well, it’s getting worse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdYAYgbf5Uc

Posted by: migueljose | Sep 2 2023 14:25 utc | 142

ECOWAS counting on the support of the EU regarding Niger
An ECOWAS delegation that included the president of the commission Omar Alieu Touray was in Toledo, Spain, on Thursday, to ask for support from the European Union.
“My visit is to explain our position and inform the various measures that ECOWAS has taken and the collaboration we seek from all our partners,” Omar Touray said. “One event in a particular place affects the whole world. So that is why we find it important to talk to our partners from the EU so that they understand what we are doing and give us the support that they are able to give us.”
“African solutions to African problems. We are on listening mode, we are ready to consider to study any proposal. I want to repeat the idea that President Bazoum was the only authority democratically elected in the whole Sahel,” Josep Borrell said.
#ECOWAS #EU #Niger @africaintel

How’s that for ‘diplomacy’? Bah humbug!

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 2 2023 15:14 utc | 143

https://nitter.net/african_stream
African Stream
@african_stream
1h
ARE FOUR MORE COUPS COMING?
Kwesi Pratt, prominent Ghanaian journalist, believes four more coups are on the way. He says the coup in Gabon was to be expected. The Bongo family has ruled Gabon for over five decades. Despite this, and the country’s oil wealth, over a third of Gabon is in poverty. Ali Bongo is under house arrest, as is his son, for high treason. Several high-ranking government officials were reportedly busted with briefcases full of local and foreign currency, one of them attempting to flee the country.
The inequality and decades-long corruption explain why the streets erupted into celebration at the news of Ali Bongo’s ouster. The military has already elected General Brice Clotaire Oligui Nguema as president of a transitional committee to lead the country. The coup has been condemned by France, while the US says it’s following developments closely.
So, what other countries do you think Kwesi has in mind – who’s next and why?
Watch the video !

Posted by: MD | Sep 2 2023 15:17 utc | 144

https://venezuelanalysis.com/
https://venezuelanalysis.com/news/15839
Caracas, August 31, 2023 (venezuelanalysis.com) – Venezuela’s state oil company PDVSA has reportedly renegotiated the oil-for-debt deal struck last year with European firms Eni and Repsol in order to receive refined products while continuing to repay debt.
According to Reuters, Washington has already approved the new terms of the agreement and Caracas will get some 330,000 barrels of naphtha this week at PDVSA’s Cardón port (western Falcón state) from Italy’s Milazzo refinery, a joint venture between Eni and Kuwait Petroleum International.
Also
https://venezuelanalysis.com/news/15833
Venezuela: Opposition Begins Primary Race as Far Right Threatens ‘Military Rebellion’

Posted by: AW | Sep 2 2023 15:39 utc | 145

https://publicdomainreview.org/essay/raul-grigera-black-dandy-of-buenos-aires/
The Black Dandy of Buenos Aires
Racial Fictions and the Search for Raúl Grigera
By Paulina L. Alberto
A mysterious staple of Buenos Aires nightlife in the 1910s and 20s, Raúl Grigera was an audacious Afro-Argentine dandy, an eccentric bohemian icon, a man who called himself el murciélago (the bat). Paulina L. Alberto examines the racial stories told by photographs, comic strips, and newspaper articles about a person many knew only as “el negro Raúl”, searching for the life behind the legend…

Posted by: AW | Sep 2 2023 15:44 utc | 146

@ Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 1 2023 16:25 utc | 108
I only had a quick peek at those refs you gave and my initial response is – boy what hyperbole. I think they have some serious comprehension difficulties or something else is going on. They take X and reprocess it into a cross between the Daleks and the Borg losing all semblance of the original meaning, and it;s framing within the context provided by the whole document and it’s key principles, the Summit’s work, and the RAISON D’ÊTRE of BRICS’ founding.
iow they have created a fantasy Exposé of the Declaration, imho. Sorry, I don’t get it. To me their commentary verges on paranoia by the sounds of the rhetoric employed. Oh well, to each their own.
If anyone wishes to view the 2023 15th BRICS Summit Declaration try this direct link
https://brics2023.gov.za/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Jhb-II-Declaration-24-August-2023-1.pdf
Full Title
XV BRICS Summit
Johannesburg II Declaration
BRICS and Africa: Partnership for Mutually Accelerated Growth,
Sustainable Development and Inclusive Multilateralism
Sandton, Gauteng, South Africa
Wednesday 23 August 2023

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 2 2023 16:39 utc | 147

For those “barflied” who fall for that NEW CHINA MAP nonsense, please follow and read:
https://nitter.net/RnaudBertrand
Another great summary and objective facts about China by Arnaud. This time about the recent issued map of China and its claimed territory. As usual, anti-China people always invent or stir up long outstanding territorial issues which have not changed for decades.
Arnaud Bertrand
12h
The bad takes around this “new map” are so ridiculous, it’s actually funny.
Fact is this “new” map isn’t new at all, there is 0 new claimed territory here, and there hasn’t been for decades.
Besides Taiwan – which everyone knows about – the 2 most contentious areas are:
– The border with India, mostly Arunachal Pradesh (part of India but China claims it as “Zangnan”) and Aksai Chin (part of China but India claims it as part of Ladakh). This isn’t new at all, these disputes were inherited from the British empire and China & India fought a war over it in 1962!
– Then there is the famous “9-dash line” in the South China Sea (confusingly shown with a 10th dash to the East of Taiwan, which isn’t new either, that’s been the case for 10+ years). The claims in the South China Sea are also extremely ancient because the PRC inherited them from the ROC after winning the civil war in 1949! And if anything the claims have reduced since then because what the PRC inherited from the ROC was a 11-dash line and in 1952 Mao decided to remove two of the dashes in the Gulf of Tonkin amid warming ties with North Vietnam. The ROC (the government in Taiwan) still claims the former 11-dash line.
Otherwise, people don’t realize that China has resolved – peacefully and through diplomacy – all its other land disputes. This actually makes it the country on earth that’s resolved the most territorial disputes peacefully. Land disputes resolved peacefully include those with: Russia, Mongolia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Myanmar, North Korea, Nepal, Tajikistan and Vietnam (the land border only, a dispute over the SCS still exists)! And again the ROC (the government in Taiwan) doesn’t recognize any of these resolutions, they still view all the territories involved as disputed.

Posted by: MD | Sep 2 2023 17:20 utc | 148

Posted by: migueljose | Sep 2 2023 14:25 utc | 143
Thanks for your two posts, migueljose. BRICS is having an impact, and I appreciate your take on border issues for the US as well.

Posted by: juliania | Sep 2 2023 17:48 utc | 149

Posted by: waynorinorway | Sep 2 2023 12:36 utc | 140
Thanks for comment, waynorinorway. Have to let you know that my potato experiment didn’t bear a lot of fruit — my fault for placing the bed on the wrong side of my very small garden — I hope you had better luck! We are still getting very high temperatures and didn’t have our rainy season. Landscape looking arid but the good thing was snowfall runoff. Trees out there are looking healthy still and acequias kept running considerably longer than the drought would allow as far as rains. My tomatoes did great, peaches also.
My error in placement ensured the potato patch was in a heated corner, which I discovered as I attempted to retrieve a crop. I’ll know better next time.
We live and learn, eh? In more ways than one.

Posted by: juliania | Sep 2 2023 17:56 utc | 150

Posted by: MD | Sep 2 2023 12:03 utc | 137
Thank you for this and your other posts, MD. I have bookmarked Ehret’s link and look forward to a more careful read of it and his previous post linked therein. It is an important historical leadup to what is happening now, so even a quick glance through puts it first on my educational agenda. These are historical facts everyone needs to know, especially here in the US.

Posted by: juliania | Sep 2 2023 18:35 utc | 151

“Thanks for comment, waynorinorway.”
Posted by: juliania | Sep 2 2023 17:56 utc | 151
Nice to hear from you Juliania. I felt I had to say something because the position that Russia and China
are not leading the way to a ‘new improved’ multi-polar world is contrary not only to the evidence but
also to the thinking of many here @MoA, most prominently karlof1 but certainly a considerable number of
other good thinkers. The article by Ehret that MD linked is very good and includes a vid of Henry Wallace’s
speech about the 4 Freedoms. To think that things in a multi-polar world will be the same ol’, same ol’ is to
steal hope for humanity, and I object to anyone promoting that line.
Too bad about your taters. But you short-circuit most of any sympathy I might have when you tell me about your
peaches and tomatoes. I lived in Ca. for many years and I know what it’s like to go out into the garden and pick
a juicy Big Boy and slobber all over my clothes right there. Or pick oranges in the back yard and make juice 3
minutes later. That ain’t happenin’ here! Yesterday was Sep. 1 so I peeked at my potato crop. I have 3 different
plots and a sample from each was encouraging. I’m keeping detailed records this year so as to optimize location
or other info for next year. I’ll pass along my results in a couple weeks but for now will let them stay in the
ground as long as possible.
“We live and learn, eh? In more ways than one.”
From my early adult years I’ve had the goal to be a wise old man someday. It seems that the old is arriving sooner
than the wise but at least I’m not so foolish as to give up on either part of that goal. I think you are
steadfast in that way too.
I’ll join with you in thanking MD for his posts.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Sep 2 2023 19:03 utc | 152

or…
Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 30 2023 19:09 utc | 43
Drinks for the bar.
Altogether now, PRESCIENCE! (shot) PRESCIENCE! (shot) PRESCIENCE! (shot)
OPRAH, Thank you for crowning that golum f*ck “America’s Mayor”.

Posted by: sln2002 | Sep 2 2023 20:14 utc | 153

India’s recent moon-landing and forthcoming Solar observer missions are, imo, a subtle declaration that India is now a Superpower too, and the dumbass Yankees can shove their Quad daydream where the Sun doesn’t shine.
The Solar mission is quite nifty in a technically professional kind of way. If if one draws a line between the Earth and the Sun, there’s a point ~ 1 million miles above the Earth where one can park something and it’ll just hover there. It’s called a Lagrange point.
So when it comes to hi-tech rocketry and professional Mission Planning, India is right up there with the OTHER Superpowers.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Sep 2 2023 20:57 utc | 154

I am truly sad to hear of the death of Bill Richardson, whom I contacted when my daughter and her husband were once in a fix in China – his response was speedy and reassuring. The other thing I continually thank him for was putting in the train, the Railrunner, between Santa Fe and Albuquerque. I love to ride it.
I had forgotten he ran for President when Hilary was the choice. I think he’d have won; his resume is stellar (not just my personal ‘likes’ by any stretch.) I looked around for his bio and the one Yahoo posted is my fave.
Rest in Peace, Governor.

Posted by: juliania | Sep 2 2023 21:14 utc | 155

Crooke’s al-Mayadeen column is out, “The New Commodity Powerhouse” that provides a short recap of the BRICS Summit and an important portion of its outcome. I’ve been trying to understand Glazyev’s critiques of BRICS’s NDB and Crooke uncovers one aspect within this paragraph:
“An initial, ad hoc ‘work-about was essential’. And here it is: Trading in own currencies, and clearing own currency trades via a Central Bank system of national digital currencies that would ‘clear’ real-time between Central Banks, without touching the dollar. The system has already been proved in a pilot scheme called ‘m-CBDC Bridge’. The idea is that each BRICS state would retain its own currencies for day-to-day use, with the digital currencies being limited to foreign exchange digital transactions between Central Banks.”
Within that, Crooke links to this February 2021 PR, “Central banks of China and United Arab Emirates join digital currency project for cross-border payments”, that explains the “m-CDBC Bridge”–it’s a project run by the Bank of International Settlements which is an appendage of the very structure BRICS says it wants to become independent of. At the PR’s bottom is this information:
“At present, there are Hub centres in Switzerland, Singapore and Hong Kong SAR. In the coming months, new centres will open in Toronto, London, Frankfurt/Paris and Stockholm. The BIS has also formed a strategic partnership with the Federal Reserve System in New York.”
So, while the clearing concept can be accomplished, if it’s associated with the BIS in any way it will be vulnerable to sanctions and choke points. The only safe hub mentioned is in Hong Kong. The BIS says its mission “is to support central banks’ pursuit of monetary and financial stability through international cooperation, and to act as a bank for central banks” and touts being owned by “63 central banks,” but most know it’s not neutral and acts to facilitate the Outlaw US Empire’s goals for the international financial system. So, again, the issue of trust arises regarding China’s motives. I can see temporarily aligning with BIS to see if the CBDC clearing system functions as theorized. But since China also depends on BIS to settle a large percentage of its trade, I see why many have said China’s fearful of secondary sanctions.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 2 2023 21:30 utc | 156

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 2 2023 16:39 utc | 148
@ Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 1 2023 16:25 utc | 108
I only had a quick peek at those refs you gave and my initial response is – boy what hyperbole. I think they have some serious comprehension difficulties or something else is going on. They take X and reprocess it into a cross between the Daleks and the Borg losing all semblance of the original meaning, and it;s framing within the context provided by the whole document and it’s key principles, the Summit’s work, and the RAISON D’ÊTRE of BRICS’ founding.
======================================
I hear you, though I think your description is even more over the top!! The “BRICS – a key instrument for establishing the New World Order” by Yourie Roshka starts with a critical but not unreasonable analysis then the bulk of the piece is the Declaration itself with short commentary after some, but not all, of the articles listed therein. And he provides links to the full document too.
Also, in the spirit of ‘great minds think alike’ the following paragraph echoes, albeit more forcefully, my post about the 2022 Declaration to which karlof1 posted a link:

The second fundamental remark concerns the total affiliation of these countries with all the international bodies through which the globalist elite establish the New World Order: UN, IMF, WHO, WTO, The Bank of International Settlements and so on. As we have already noted, making firm and slavish commitments to implement the provisions of the UN Agenda for Sustainable Development, to blindly comply with all WHO orders related to false pandemics, etc., to obey the myth of ‘global warming’, to implement total digitization and total control over citizens etc., all reveal a relationship of subordination to a single command center that imposes itself through these international institutions.

Plus he linked to Iain Davis who writes extensively on multipolarity. His thesis is that multipolarity stems from old agendas (Quigley et alia) for a one world order. Recent globalization, fusing supply chains etc. went too far, so regionalization or blocization as Schwab calls it must first be established over which will preside a single authority of some sort (almost certainly financial IMO).
For example Putin advocates the following:

Putin is among those who favour a Eurasian pole in the world order, and he certainly doesn’t intend either it or the Russian Federation within it to be sovereign. He said:
Russia considers the creation of new international financial platforms inevitable; this includes international transactions. These platforms should be above national jurisdictions. They should be secure, depoliticized and automated and should not depend on any single control centre. [. . .] This rules out the possibility of abuse in a new global financial infrastructure. It would make it possible to conduct effective, beneficial and secure international transactions without the dollar or any of the so-called reserve currencies.

Sounds great – Putin always does. But for it to be great you have to believe an unspecified system will be put in place run by nobody (though AI is programmed) or Enlightened Saints. Possible, yes, but…
Iain Davis links:
https://iaindavis.com/who-are-the-new-world-order-a-brief-history/ (2018)
https://iaindavis.com/what-is-the-global-public-private-partnership/ (2021)
https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/who-wants-a-multipolar-world-order-part-i
iain davis
https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/who-wants-a-multipolar-world-order-part-ii

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 2 2023 21:39 utc | 157

re: Trilateral Commission
less talked about but in fact worse: The 1971 Powell Memo.
It was the business take on the issue and much harder than the “soft” Trilateral approach
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/assets/usa-courts-secrecy-lobbyist/powell-memo.pdf

Posted by: AG | Sep 3 2023 2:25 utc | 158

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 2 2023 21:30 utc | 157

So, while the clearing concept can be accomplished, if it’s associated with the BIS in any way it will be vulnerable to sanctions and choke points. The only safe hub mentioned is in Hong Kong. The BIS says its mission “is to support central banks’ pursuit of monetary and financial stability through international cooperation, and to act as a bank for central banks” and touts being owned by “63 central banks,” but most know it’s not neutral and acts to facilitate the Outlaw US Empire’s goals for the international financial system. So, again, the issue of trust arises regarding China’s motives. I can see temporarily aligning with BIS to see if the CBDC clearing system functions as theorized. But since China also depends on BIS to settle a large percentage of its trade, I see why many have said China’s fearful of secondary sanctions.

A possible explanation: the Western-based PTB in international trade and finance, having moved from Venice to Amsterdam to London to NY, are now moving to Beijing.
The petrodollar is on the way out and the petro-gold-yuan (or newfangled multicurrency gold-backed digital equivalent) is on the way in, and the BIS Corporation is the central bank behind it all as per your post.
BIS is a new type of Monarch. The very second the old king dies the immaterial Kingsip passes to the heir. The King never dies, only mortals channeling kingship wearing symbolic physical Crowns. Corporations are exactly the same, indeed early dissertations centuries ago reference the same Two Body doctrine first used about Kings over a millennium ago, indeed also about Christ going back to Roman times.
Simply put: corporations do not die along with their mortal members hence are virtually immortal. Rhodes’ Round Table keeps reincarnating and is now behind ‘multipolarity’ just as BIS is behind Glazyev’s post-US-Empire multipolar-financial wunderwaffen.
The good news is that the Empire – a Monarchy in secular corporate form – provides authority and thus order. The bad news is that the ‘peers of the Realm’ in this NWO aren’t bothered by the deaths of millions or more likely hundreds of millions (Exhibit 1: 20th Century -isms, all of which they promulgated and sponsored.)

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 3 2023 4:22 utc | 159

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rsFwkllB6A
Inside Fulton County Jail with Jenna Ellis, Plus Trump Refuses to Pay Her Legal Fees | Ep. 416 Liz Wheeler
One of Trump’s indicted lawyers provides substantive criticism of him as potential President again, also mentioning around 20 mins that none of those working for him from before whom she respected are working for him again. (He is not paying her costs for the lawsuit.) She argues why deSantis is far more substantive than people understand, though also flawed.
I personally think both parties are toxic beyond repair just as most of the bureaucracy in the Swamp is only good for being disbanded entirely – as per Vivek R’s proposal viz the FBI and DOE. Of course without also dismantling the Fed and its entire system it’s all moot anyway.
I don’t usually listen to such stuff but the headline got me and I’m glad I did. Very intelligent woman with plenty to say. Devout Christian too.

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 3 2023 4:30 utc | 160

re: China Red Line
Here we go with “unprovoked” again
Any unprovoked attack on Taiwan would result in a “resolute reaction” from Washington, US Representative Rob Wittman said during a visit to Taipei yesterday, adding that the US is working on expediting arms sales to the nation.
Aug 31, 2023
. . .the US has once again crossed a threshold and overstepped a red line in interfering in the Taiwan question. The US is gradually hollowing out the one-China principle through its salami-slicing tactics. With the increasing number and intensity of its intervention methods, the brewing and imminent storm of lethal consequences for Taiwan cannot be ignored.
. . .China’s response to the continuous provocations by the US on the Taiwan question will not be limited to mere statements. One of the main reasons why China does not promise to abandon the use of force is to counter foreign interference.
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202308/1297375.shtml
Mar 7, 2023
BEIJING — Beijing warned Washington on Tuesday that interfering with Taiwan’s future is the “first red line” in Sino-U.S. relations, as ties plunge to new lows.
During a two-hour press briefing that touched on the Ukraine conflict, Japan-China relations and a recent spat over a suspected Chinese spy balloon, China’s Foreign Minister Qin Gang repeated Beijing’s claim that Taiwan was part of its territory and could be taken by force, if necessary.
Holding up a red booklet containing China’s constitution, the former ambassador to the U.S. said his country’s legal framework called for the “peaceful” reunification with Taiwan. Earlier in the day, the island’s defense minister, Chiu Kuo-cheng, said “repeated provocations” from China could trigger an armed response.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Sep 3 2023 4:49 utc | 161

Well, looks like Burning Man flooded out. A total muddy fucking mess. Reminds me of Zappa. “Hey punk where you going with that button on your shirt. I’m going to the love in to sit and play my bongos in the dirt.” I say live and let die. Freedom sometimes costs.

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Sep 3 2023 4:49 utc | 162

My son went to a couple of Burning Man festivals. He had an excuse though. On one occasion he was supposed to do be sound engineer for someone, but it turned into a shitshow. The second time, he was driving a tour bus for a prince of Denmark. Life can be very strange.

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Sep 3 2023 5:26 utc | 163

@ Scorpion | Sep 2 2023 21:39 utc | 158
Hi well, thanks for the reply. I hear what you and Yourie Roshka are saying in that post and I have to reject all of your descriptions, the interpretations placed upon others words (eg Putin) and of the official texts, and then the conclusions partly based on those (faulty) interpretations. I generally see how you get from a to b though. I am unconvinced you are right, and not buying it, sorry. To me you are both ‘jumping at shadows’ or if that isn’t clear or doesn’t make sense maybe ‘you are seeing things that are not really there’ is where our main differences lay. Which I thought I was indicating before. I’ll have a peak at Iain Davis and if anything different arises I might make a comment. cheers

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 3 2023 6:49 utc | 164

Thanks, karlof1 at Sep 2 2023 21:30 utc | 157 for Crooke’s assessment. It’s a quiet piece, but commendable for that as easier to grasp the fundamentals. Which seems to reflect the entire process: better to proceed cautiously than not to proceed at all. I’ve been thinking of the Rumsfeld dictum – ‘you go to war with the army you have’, which for many countries would not have been their favored course of action if it hadn’t been dictated by what the west was demanding and orchestrating, or attempting to do so.
Some of the African changes should remind us that even an army can have positive goals if the government has become corrupted, so armies are people as well in a best case scenario. They have families; they care about civil order. They care about trade and peaceful outcomes. They are not all bent on world domination.
From Crooke: “… BRICS are lining up commodity value-based currencies versus fiat monetary instruments that will devalue, as inflation eats away its relative value…”
We know there are economists out there who value this approach. If there is an alternative, I’m not seeing it. And Scorpion, your monarchy analogy is a bit of a stretch. Corporations may not die but that’s because they aren’t alive – they do change, more the way chrystals do, or stalagmites and stalagtites in caves – drip, drip, drip…
It’s people who are like the glow worms, those thousand points of light somebody sometime was talking about long ago. And a river runs through it.
😉

Posted by: juliania | Sep 3 2023 6:54 utc | 165

I’m slow puttin’ this out here it is next ultimate portion of a fair attempt at documenting a complex & emotive conflict BBC The Great War Pts 21 – 26 plus xtras last piece.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Sep 3 2023 7:16 utc | 166

Let’s hope this lives up to its billing.
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/79470

📢🇷🇺 Lavrov Takes Center Stage: A Push for a Multipolar World at the UN 🌍
➡️Clear your calendars for September 19-26—the Russian Foreign Ministry has announced that Lavrov will be taking the UN General Assembly by storm. And what’s on the agenda? Oh, just a small matter of reshaping the world order into something truly fair and just.
➡️Don’t expect the usual diplomatic platitudes. When Lavrov speaks, it’s a call for a multipolar world, breaking free from unipolar illusions. Mark your calendars; this is more than politics, it’s a blueprint for the future. Time to shake things up! Onward!

Posted by: anon2020 | Sep 3 2023 7:28 utc | 167

Fun Facts (Off Topic)
FF1. Wikipedia lists 106 different songs called “Without You”.
FF2. There’s a web page called Title 2 – Without You which lists all of the songs called “Without You” written since 1900 in order of chart success.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Sep 3 2023 8:01 utc | 168

Big move!

China’s central bank on Friday said it will cut the foreign exchange reserve requirement ratio for financial institutions by 2 percentage points from September 15.
The reserve requirement ratio will be reduced from its current 6 percent to 4 percent, the People’s Bank of China said in a short notice on its website.

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202309/1297386.shtml
A 50% change in the requirement ratio is not “fine tuning”.

Posted by: too scents | Sep 3 2023 8:08 utc | 169

@ AG | Sep 3 2023 2:25 utc | 159
Yes, the Powell Memo is the template for all that came later… think tanks and those groups that started writing the Bills for Congress to pass. The Chicago school certainly helped, it was the Gun to effect the holdup. All ended up in Citizens United .. that was the final Coup against the whole political system which has gutted everything.
imo only the complete dismantling of the US system from Constitution to congress, to which states even want to be a part of the US anymore is the only possible solution. The US now is effectively a Totalitarian Dictatorship with a rotating titular head of state for appearances only iow an essentially powerless president.
some refs include
https://reclaimdemocracy.org/powell_memo_lewis/
https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/12/08/powell-memo-revisited
good backgound info and the original
https://scholarlycommons.law.wlu.edu/powellmemo/

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 3 2023 8:08 utc | 170


Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 3 2023 8:08 utc | 171
Sad but true.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Sep 3 2023 9:16 utc | 171

Nepal too is upset with Beijing’s new “standard map of China” which claims parts of their nation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M0Gm_i9BKw

Posted by: Antonym | Sep 3 2023 10:26 utc | 172

@Scorpion #158 and my comment #165
RE Iain Davis in Nov 22 https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/who-wants-a-multipolar-world-order-part-i
presents the following “interpretative summary” of Xi and Putin’s Joint Feb 2022 statement

They intend to “deepen cooperation in the field of international information security”, and reaffirmed “the key role of the UN in responding to threats to international information security”. They wish to establish “a single mechanism”, at the global governance level, to police “the use of information and communication technologies” and they support the “internationalization of Internet governance”.

In my view, the bold sections in particular misrepresent the meaning behind and intentions of the text – they are not supported by a fair minded reading of the text within the broader context of the document and the normal meaning of the words being used as they were intended.
As a whole the paragraph above, in my view, does not accurately represent nor convey to a reader of Iain Davis’s article the true meaning being conveyed (nor the impression I obtained) by the relevant text which in full was as follows:

The sides reiterate their readiness to deepen cooperation in the field of international information security and to contribute to building an open, secure, sustainable and accessible ICT environment. The sides emphasize that the principles of the non-use of force, respect for national sovereignty and fundamental human rights and freedoms, and non-interference in the internal affairs of other States, as enshrined in the UN Charter, are applicable to the information space. Russia and China reaffirm the key role of the UN in responding to threats to international information security and express their support for the Organization in developing new norms of conduct of states in this area.
The sides welcome the implementation of the global negotiation process on international information security within a single mechanism and support in this context the work of the UN Open-ended Working Group on security of and in the use of information and communication technologies (ICTs) 2021–2025 (OEWG) and express their willingness to speak with one voice within it. The sides consider it necessary to consolidate the efforts of the international community to develop new norms of responsible behaviour of States, including legal ones, as well as a universal international legal instrument regulating the activities of States in the field of ICT. The sides believe that the Global Initiative on Data Security, proposed by the Chinese side and supported, in principle, by the Russian side, provides a basis for the Working Group to discuss and elaborate responses to data security threats and other threats to international information security.
The sides reiterate their support of United Nations General Assembly resolutions 74/247 and 75/282, support the work of the relevant Ad Hoc Committee of Governmental Experts, facilitate the negotiations within the United Nations for the elaboration of an international convention on countering the use of ICTs for criminal purposes. The sides encourage constructive participation of all sides in the negotiations in order to agree as soon as possible on a credible, universal, and comprehensive convention and provide it to the United Nations General Assembly at its 78th session in strict compliance with resolution 75/282. For these purposes, Russia and China have presented a joint draft convention as a basis for negotiations.
The sides support the internationalization of Internet governance, advocate equal rights to its governance, believe that any attempts to limit their sovereign right to regulate national segments of the Internet and ensure their security are unacceptable, are interested in greater participation of the International Telecommunication Union in addressing these issues.
The sides intend to deepen bilateral cooperation in international information security on the basis of the relevant 2015 intergovernmental agreement. To this end, the sides have agreed to adopt in the near future a plan for cooperation between Russia and China in this area.

Then follows this comment by Iain Davis about the 2030 Agenda

Both leaders said that it was important to accelerate “implementation of the UN 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development”. They identified the following as the key areas over which global governance would rule, in the supposedly new multipolar world order: […]
If this list seems identical to the rhetoric you might have expected to hear from any Western politician on the international stage over the last quarter-century, then that is not because it sounds like the same agenda. It is because it is the same agenda.

Well so what if it “seems identical” to Iain? The SD goals and areas of focus they listed are clearly the same, yet their approach is certainly is not, as far as China and Russia are concerned and their joint statement as a whole makes that very clear. As well as specifically where they say:

The Russian side confirms its readiness to continue working on the China-proposed Global Development Initiative, including participation in the activities of the Group of Friends of the Global Development Initiative under the UN auspices. In order to accelerate the implementation of the UN 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development, the sides call on the international community to take practical steps in key areas of cooperation such as poverty reduction, food security, vaccines and epidemics control, financing for development, climate change, sustainable development, including green development, industrialization, digital economy, and infrastructure connectivity.

And it is quite clear it is the developed world that are emphatically dragging their feet and not meeting their commitments as usual. See https://www.un.org/sustainabledevelopment/development-agenda/ and if Iain has any issues with any of THE 17 GOALS themselves then that’s his business to argue, not for Xi or Putin on his behalf when they obviously sincerely support the UN Agenda 30 goals. See https://sdgs.un.org/goals
And I find this paragraph which followed disingenuous and unhelpful to say the least:

China is currently arming the UAE and the Saudi régimes to attack the impoverished Yemeni people while looting the country’s oil, as has been described eloquently by Isa Blumi in the most recent edition of UK Column’s occasional Insight panel series. Russia is busy fighting another armed conflict, its sixth this century under the leadership of Vladimir Putin.

Using a 2018 establishment news ref about made in China drones (so?) and a “for hire” Chinese flagged tanker does not imv equate to China the Nation nor it’s Government carrying out nefarious activity, let alone it undermining their Joint Statement on the International Relations Entering a New Era and the Global Sustainable Development.
I’m unconvinced and dubious about this kind of irrelevant anecdotes being thrown in the mix and the overall ‘style’ and default bias against China too. What China has achieved in regard Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Iran and the Yemen war is remarkable, while simultaneously officially bringing these nations into the BRICS system as full members last week.
Now the above a mere examples of where I personally see issues with these kinds of approaches, no different than the general point I mentioned before. If these folks don’t like BRICS and see all these dire problems ahead, well fine, but so what? I see no problem with you or others having different views and interpretations about these matters than Putin or Xi. Everyone is welcome to their opinion. But it’s Xi and Putin driving this bus and what they have to say and exactly what they means much more than anyone else’s commentary because they are implementing these things with real Actions.
But for me, I am quite happy to rely upon the words of Xi and Putin themselves without requiring an intermediary or an interpreter t parse the “meanings” of their statements for me. I can see who and what they are as national leaders very clearly and what they hope for the world ahead. And I can say honestly it is no where near what these other people are saying.
The useless news media shills do this all the time on every subject — what Putin is trying to achieve is X, what Xi believes is Y. I am not interested in such unqualified interpretations. I already understand what Xi and Putin mean by what they say, and I can see where they are coming from and what they hope to achieve.
I do not have a problem with it at all, and I don’t need anyone elses help to “set me straight” on anything. So whatever Iain Davis’s and Yourie Roshka’s own agendas are (they clearly do not like BRICS or Russia or China) well I’m not buying what they are selling. I’m just not interested.
They can believe whatever they want of course, no problems. And they can keep on presenting their views, but I won’t be listening. I like what Putin and Xi have to say and how they say it. I am quite happy with what BRICS and the SCO and others are doing to create a better multipolar world and I hope they wipe this evil violent US/Western hegemony off the map forever and soon.
I have had enough of it my entire life. They can all go to hell and rot.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 3 2023 11:15 utc | 173

commentary verges on paranoia by the sounds of the rhetoric employed. Oh well, to each their
Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 2 2023 16:39 utc | 148
O rly?
G7 Leaders’ Statement on Ukraine 19.05.23 pdf

1. Preamble
At our meeting today in Hiroshima, we, the Leaders of the G7, reaffirmed our commitment to stand together against Russia’s illegal, unjustifiable, and unprovoked war of aggression against Ukraine. We condemn, in the strongest terms, Russia’s manifest violation of the Charter of the United Nations (UN) and the impact of Russia’s war on the rest of the world. 15 months of Russia’s aggression has cost thousands of lives, inflicted immense suffering on the people of Ukraine, and imperiled access to food and energy for many of the world’s most vulnerable people. We express our full sympathy and condolences to the Ukrainian people for their loss and suffering. We salute the Ukrainian people for their brave resistance. Our support for Ukraine will not waver. We will not tire in our commitment to mitigate the impact of Russia’s illegal actions on the rest of the world.
Today we are taking new steps to ensure that Russia’s illegal aggression against the sovereign state of Ukraine fails and to support the Ukrainian people in their quest for a just peace rooted in respect for international law. We are renewing our commitment to provide the financial, humanitarian, military and diplomatic support Ukraine requires for as long as it takes. We are imposing further sanctions and measures to increase the costs to Russia and those who are supporting its war effort. And we are taking steps to support partners worldwide as they navigate the suffering caused by the Russia’s war, including through humanitarian assistance. We are also building on the success of our efforts to ensure that Russia is no longer able to weaponize the availability of energy against us and against the world. Since February 2022, we have adopted sanctions, import bans, and other measures to reduce our dependence on Russia’s source of energy. In addition, in Elmau, we agreed to launch a price cap on Russian oil and petroleum products. This is working. Russia’s revenues are down. Global oil and gas prices have fallen significantly, benefiting countries around the world.
[…]
7. Sanctions and other measures
i) We will further restrict Russia’s access to our economies [“strategic autonomy”]. Building on previous measures taken to prevent Russia from accessing inputs in support of sectors key to its military industrial base, we will broaden our actions to ensure that exports of all items critical to Russia’s aggression including those used by Russia on the battlefield are restricted across all our jurisdictions, including exports of industrial machinery, tools, and other technology that Russia uses to rebuild [?] its war machine. We will further target those operating in these key sectors, such as manufacturing, construction, and transportation as well as business services. WE WILL STARVE RUSSIA of G7 technology, industrial equipment, and services that support its war machine. We will continue to shield agricultural, medical, and humanitarian products from our restrictive measures and make every effort to avoid potential spillover impacts on third countries.
ii) We will further prevent the evasion and circumvention of our measures against Russia, including targeting eNtITiEs transporting material to the front. We will continue to work through the Russian Elites, Proxies, and Oligarchs (REPO) Task Force and the Enforcement Coordination Mechanism to enhance the effectiveness of our restrictive measures. We are engaging with third countries through which restricted G7 goods, services, or technology may be provided to Russia to strengthen third-countries’ UNDERSTANDINGS of G7 measures. We note and encourage commitments made by these countries to ensure our measures are not circumvented and have the intended effect.
iii) We reiterate our call on third parties to IMMEDIATELY CEASE providing material support to Russia’s aggression OR FACE SEVERE COSTS. We will reinforce our coordination to prevent and respond to third parties supplying weapons to Russia and continue to take ACTIONS AGAINST third country actors who materially support Russia’s war.
iv) We will also work to further curtail Russia’s use of the international financial system to further its war in Ukraine. We are prepared to take further measures against those willfully supporting the financing of Russia’s war. We are taking steps to further reduce avenues for Russia to circumvent our financial measures including by preventing third-country branches of Russian banks from being used to avoid sanctions. We will continue to take necessary actions against Russia’s financial sector while coordinating to preserve financial channels for essential transactions.
v) We will continue to reduce Russia’s revenue to finance its illegal aggression by taking
appropriate steps to limit Russia’s energy revenue and future extractive capabilities, building on the measures we have taken so far, including export bans and the price cap for seaborne Russian-origin crude oil and refined oil products. We have dramatically reduced our reliance on Russian energy and commodities. We are determined to continue on this path so that Russia is no longer able to weaponize energy against us. We will further reduce reliance on civil nuclear and related goods from Russia, including working to assist countries seeking to diversify their supplies. We will also continue efforts to reduce Russia’s revenue from metals. Further, we remain committed to upholding the price caps on Russian oil and petroleum products and we will enhance our efforts to counter evasion of these caps while avoiding spillover effects and maintaining global energy supply.
vi) In order to reduce the revenues that Russia extracts from the export of diamonds, we will
continue to work closely together to restrict trade in and use of diamonds mined, processed or produced in Russia and engage with key partners with the aim of ensuring effective
implementation of future coordinated restrictive measures, including through tracing technologies.
8. Responsibility for Damage
We will continue our efforts to ensure that Russia pays for the long-term reconstruction of Ukraine. In this context, we welcome the establishment, in the framework of the Council of Europe and to meet the request from the UN General Assembly, of a Registry of Damages Caused by the Aggression of the Russian Federation Against Ukraine. In line with the commitment made through the REPO Task Force, we will continue to take measures available within our domestic frameworks to find, restrain, freeze, seize, and, where appropriate, confiscate or forfeit the assets of those individuals and entities that have been sanctioned in connection with Russia’s aggression. We are taking steps to fully map holdings of Russia’s sovereign assets immobilized in our jurisdictions. We reaffirm that, consistent with our respective legal systems, Russia’s sovereign assets in our jurisdictions will remain immobilized until Russia pays for the damage it has caused to Ukraine.
[…]
10. Support to vulnerable countries
… In particular, we stress that Russia’s WEAPONIZATION OF FOOD has compounded economic vulnerabilities, exacerbated already dire humanitarian crises, and escalated global food insecurity and malnutrition to unprecedented levels. We welcome the significant emergency FINANCING delivered by the IMF through the Food Shock Window [?] approved in October 2022 and support additional efforts towards vulnerable countries. We will continue to provide rapid assistance to help affected countries and populations, including through the Global Alliance for Food Security (GAFS). We will continue to support the export of Ukrainian agri-products including through the EU-Ukraine Solidarity Lanes.
[…]
11. Conclusion
We hereby pledge, from Hiroshima, the “symbol of peace”, that G7 members will mobilize all our policy instruments and, together with Ukraine, make every effort to bring a comprehensive, just and lasting peace in Ukraine as soon as possible.

So.
Were you born paranoid or do you practice every evening?

Posted by: sln2002 | Sep 3 2023 12:28 utc | 174

FYI: US-Eng. repo is a colloquial abbreviation of repossession a/k/a asset forfeiture in the event of loan default or police arrest.

Posted by: sln2002 | Sep 3 2023 12:33 utc | 175

An interesting recap of recent conflict in Syria, plus the question of how things will develop in what might well be the complete absence of Wagner. It looks like we are about to discover whether those most eager to see the back of Wagner are able also to fulfil Wagner’s combat roles, not merely the profit-taking opportunities.
https://t.me/geromanat/9438

🇷🇺 🇸🇾 While the attention of the Russian public is riveted on episodes of a special military operation, what is happening in Syria often remains behind the scenes. In the meantime, events there are developing in a spiral and are bringing closer a new round of escalation with further incitement of the conflict.
How things are in the lands of Sham – we told in a recent report. Here is a short timeline of the last weeks:
▪️ The trigger for the aggravation of the situation was unrest in the Euphrates in the part of the province of Deir ez-Zor controlled by the “Syrian Democratic Forces” (SDF). The Arab tribes living there rebelled against the Kurds who came to these territories in 2017 and are considered outsiders there.
▪️ Tribes from the territories occupied by Turkey in the north of the country came to the aid of the rebels, attacking the positions of the SDF in the east of the province of Aleppo. The militants also took several checkpoints of the Syrian government forces. After that, the Russian Aerospace Forces stepped in and began to strike at them.
▪️ The situation is aggravated by the most difficult social and economic situation in the territories controlled by the government in Damascus. Sanctions, political corruption and controversial decisions of the authorities led to the total impoverishment of the population, due to which protests (still small) occurred even in loyal provinces.
In the current conditions, setting fire to Syria again is not a huge task: now a significant part of the population on opposite sides of the front has nothing to lose. As soon as the right spark appears, many people will take to the streets and take up arms.
❗️ What is the danger for Russia here? As we have already said, the escalation in the Middle East and other theaters will lead to even greater tension amid of hostilities in the SMO zone. And in the future, this may cut off all projects in Africa: all logistics are now being built through Syria.
What can be done in this situation? To begin with, at least not to aggravate the situation and not overdo it with “putting things in order” in the Wagner PMC and all its components. How rationally the state manages this valuable asset will largely determine the future of Russian influence in the countries of the “global South”.
Moreover, the resources even earlier – before the SMO, the rebellion and the crash of Prigozhin’s plane – were not at all unlimited.
#Russia #Syria

Posted by: anon2020 | Sep 3 2023 12:33 utc | 176

FYI EU-Eng. third-country denote any state that is not a TEU signatory and member of the EU Single Market a/k/a rest of world, including but not limited to members of the BRICS trade association.

Posted by: sln2002 | Sep 3 2023 12:36 utc | 177

How to make a million…the US American environmental science-y way
Chop Down Forests To Save The Planet? Maybe Not As Crazy As It Sounds

[…]
Along with the VC seed money, Kodama has already received $1.1 million in grants from California’s forest fire agency and others, as well as purchase commitments for the carbon credits tied to the first 400 tons of trees it buries. On the open market, those credits should fetch $200 a ton. Eventually Kodama wants to cut down and bury more than 5,000 tons of trees a year.
A Dartmouth grad with degrees in both engineering and environmental studies, Jenkins started selling used robotic equipment while earning a master’s in robotics at Carnegie Mellon. Then he cofounded a company that uses machine learning to help farmers analyze soil. But in 2019, while earning an MBA at MIT, he concluded there was more opportunity in fores­try than in the crowded ag-tech field. He backed away from the AI company and spent months with loggers to understand how they use equipment, and by 2021 had settled on forestry robotics, convinced that labor shortages would drive demand. “There’s not enough workforce,” he says. “We’ll need new training and new technologies” to meet the Forest Service’s clearing goals.
He also saw another “big gap” in the industry: what to do with all that biomass. He had heard about biomass vaults from Yale’s Carbon Containment Lab. Then mutual friends introduced him to Voorhis, a 33-year-old mountaineer, geologist and earth sciences engineer (with an M.S. from Dartmouth), who had become obsessed with the idea of reclaiming old mines as biomass burial sites. They joined forces.
[…]

Posted by: sln2002 | Sep 3 2023 12:43 utc | 178

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 3 2023 11:15 utc | 174 + 16:39 utc | 148 + 6:49 utc | 165
Thanks for all that as well as for taking the time, (time which I don’t have at this point
due to the fast approaching winter weather here in the Arctic). I can’t counter Scorpion anyway
since I’m one of those he has blocked, so it’s nice to see some of his tortured(imo) logic challenged.
I see a lot from him that needs to be refuted and wish others would speak up like you have. I suspect
though that a number have just given up posting as the volume from that source has just continued to increase.
It’s a big ask for those who have a life.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Sep 3 2023 13:05 utc | 179

#38
Somewhat wrong. Tritium binds to hydroxyl radicals, forming tritiated or super-heavy water. Hydroxyl radicals are very rare in oceans, but do occur in irradiated (ionizing radiation as sunlight) areas, as shallow coast.

Posted by: darkmoon | Sep 3 2023 13:34 utc | 180

Posted by: Debsisdead | Sep 3 2023 7:16 utc | 167
Again, thank you for the effort.

Posted by: john brewster | Sep 3 2023 13:38 utc | 181

It’s a big ask for those who have a life.
Posted by: waynorinorway | Sep 3 2023 13:05 utc | 180
First rule of modern media culture:
“Any response just encourages them.”
Blabber mouths come and go, once the situation is clear, it is best to let them blabber. I have not been here that long, and I can remember a number already.
I hope winter treats you well.

Posted by: Bemildred | Sep 3 2023 13:46 utc | 182

@ sln2002 | Sep 3 2023 12:28 utc | 175
I’m assuming you are directing your comment to me. But I have no idea what you are talking about, what the short “ref to my prior comment” is supposed to mean to you (or to me now) nor what you are getting at, incl regarding “paranoia” – (I know what I meant when I said that myself), why you are throwing it back in my face now is a mystery to me.
So, unfortunately, nothing you say in your comment #175, incl the copy/paste quote, seems relevant to anything to do with me – and nor do I understand any of it.
So if you want to say something, to me specifically, if you have point you’d like to get across, you will need to be much much clearer and too the point. Otherwise, have a nice day anyway. 🙂

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 3 2023 14:52 utc | 183

@waynorinorway #180 – hi, thanks for the feedback. Somethings motivate me enough to respond, others not so much. A slow day with time to kill I can get a little carried away. Won’t happen often (I hope) 🙂

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 3 2023 14:56 utc | 184

“Any response just encourages them.”
Posted by: Bemildred | Sep 3 2023 13:46 utc | 183
Yeah, ANY. One of my first jobs included answering a phone where kids sometimes would be messing around making prank calls
like ‘Is your refrigerator running? Well you better go catch it!’ My boss instructed me to not say a word just
gently set the receiver on the hook. The simple click dampened their fun and usually that was the end.
That’s the strategy behind the ‘don’t feed the trolls’ advice as well although to me this is not a case of a troll
but a narcissist with an agenda.
Thanks for the good wishes. It’s only 95 days since we had our last snowfall on June 1 and now that Sep. is here it’s
best to get the lawn chairs stored, the painting and roof work finished, etc. But clean air is good and dry wood is on
the porch so I actually look forward to the light shows of winter and reading by the warmth of the fire and the light of
the Moon of Alabama.
You have a good winter too!

Posted by: waynorinorway | Sep 3 2023 16:20 utc | 185

Posted by: juliania | Sep 3 2023 6:54 utc | 166
And Scorpion, your monarchy analogy is a bit of a stretch. Corporations may not die but that’s because they aren’t alive – they do change, more the way chrystals do, or stalagmites and stalagtites in caves – drip, drip, drip…
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Maybe. But like I said, early writings about corporations referenced the same Two Body theory from medieval scholars used to analyze the non-material monarchy principle as distinct from the individual mortal beneath the outer crown. Is it not in developed societies that huge power has been accumulated by such ‘bodies’ far beyond that which any living individual human being can hope to accumulate let alone wield from the grave, moreover in some cases the largest corporations arguably have more power than most governments; indeed, many claim even the mighty USA govt has been captured by the corporatocracy.
The excessive power and wealth accumulated by such non-mortal legal entities is arguably the main driver of all the evils of capitalism leftists go on about. Without such quasi-immortal corporations, capitalism might be a far more uplifting dynamic; however, the multi-generational power accumulated by corporations has seemingly ruined whatever merit democratic representational politics might have had. Very much in the same ways as over the centuries, various monarchies became insufferably tyrannical and had to be taken out. The two problems are very similar, though few have cottoned on to it. (Not the City of London folks. They have a parallel Crown operation and know exactly what they are doing…)

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 3 2023 17:29 utc | 186

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 3 2023 6:49 utc | 165

@ Scorpion | Sep 2 2023 21:39 utc | 158
Hi well, thanks for the reply. I hear what you and Yourie Roshka are saying in that post and I have to reject all of your descriptions, the interpretations placed upon others words (eg Putin) and of the official texts, and then the conclusions partly based on those (faulty) interpretations..

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Pity you don’t see fit to provide an example, merely proclaim from on high that we are wrong, but hey… Meanwhile, for any others interested:

We remind you that the UN signed a strategic partnership agreement with WEF in June 2019 (https://www.weforum.org/press/2019/06/world-economic-forum-and-un-sign-strategic-partnership-framework/ ), from which:
·      ”The UN-Forum Partnership was signed in a meeting held at United Nations headquarters between UN Secretary-General António Guterres and World Economic Founder and Executive Chairman Klaus Schwab to accelerate the implementation of the 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development
·      The partnership identifies six areas of focus – financing the 2030 Agenda, climate change, health, digital cooperation, gender equality and empowerment of women, education and skills – to strengthen and broaden their combined impact by building on existing and new collaborations…”

https://telegra.ph/BRICS-Summit—the-last-nail-in-the-multipolaritys-coffin-08-26
First, the quote is accurate; you can check the document yourself.
Second: the six areas of focus are unambiguous in meaning.
Third: now it just boils down to opinion. Some are on board with these six areas of focus; I am most definitely not. Indeed, I think it is complete and utter globalist Grade AAA Bullshit!
Now, the above doesn’t link BRICS to the UN-WEF but earlier I posted multiple references to UN agencies and programs in the BRICS Declarations showing that BRICS and multipolarity are aligned with the UN in which case am now comfortable concluding that multipolarity is a bait and switch, just the latest iteration of one-world-government globalism in a new package. It took a while to get there, but reading through the BRICS Declarations from 2022 and 2023 (thanks karlof1!) finally made it easy to discern, that and contributions by two well informed authors.
Now: maybe BRICS leadership has a plan to secretly lead the globalists along and then ditch them at the altar and go onto to make a Glorious New World, but I’ll believe it when I see it.

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 3 2023 18:06 utc | 187

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 3 2023 11:15 utc | 174
Thank you for such a thorough, well-argued post. Obviously we disagree. I also sent another post earlier but it got nixed, so ….
I want to come back on one issue: what I like most about both of the authors I cited is that they provide many quotations from Putin, Xi and various Accords and Declarations. This allows me to form my own opinions rather than rely on others, which is the opposite of what you are saying. For example (no link, since that nixed the post):

We remind you that the UN signed a strategic partnership agreement with WEF in June 2019, from which:
·      ”The UN-Forum Partnership was signed in a meeting held at United Nations headquarters between UN Secretary-General António Guterres and World Economic Founder and Executive Chairman Klaus Schwab to accelerate the implementation of the 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development
·      The partnership identifies six areas of focus – financing the 2030 Agenda, climate change, health, digital cooperation, gender equality and empowerment of women, education and skills – to strengthen and broaden their combined impact by building on existing and new collaborations…”

I don’t need anyone to tall me that those six areas of focus are AAA Grade Globalist BS. So for me it is clear: The Corporatocracy and WEF and UN and BRICS are all of a piece. They are pushing feminism, climate change, digital cooperation etc.
I respect your approval of such things etc., but count me out. I’m off the multipolar train at this point. It’s been a slow, painful process because until covid I was all on board. But no longer. No big deal. Just one man’s opinion.

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 3 2023 18:18 utc | 188

Posted by: Debsisdead | Sep 3 2023 7:16 utc | 167
I finally watched the first episode of The Great War. As all of the reviews say, it has a phenomenal amount of archival footage never seen before (or since, until TGW was re-released).
The picture quality is amazing! I played it back on a 48″ HDTV monitor; and it looked good, even though the digitization is at Standard Definition (600 x 400). If someone would take the trouble to clean up the “snow” and “streaks”, it would look fabulous.
I did some googling and discovered that videotape would not have been used for this in 1964. Therefore, it was made as a film. That film must have been put in an archive for 30+ years. Then around Y2k, it was digitized.
Can’t thank you enough for this valuable contribution.

Posted by: john brewster | Sep 4 2023 1:55 utc | 189

@ Scorpion | Sep 3 2023 18:18 utc | 188
Well i think my quotations were far better than their short phrases being jumbled together, but I get your preference. And I prefer to read hear people in full so I get their tone and context. I hate when journos do it, choose selective phrases and twist the real intention of the speaker.
So it’s a particular bugbear of mine that others may not care about as much.

…. AAA Grade Globalist BS. So for me it is clear: The Corporatocracy and WEF and UN and BRICS are all of a piece.

Yes, I get that. What I don;t get is what does the WEF Schwab meeting with the UN have to do with Xi and Putin and what they see building the future like? How the UN is being run (or rather not run properly) is precisely what the BRICS folks want to change – and they will change it to the better from being just another manipulative Tool for western Corporatocracy and the US western empire’s Neolibracon fanatics. Reforming the UNSC means changing how it operates and rearranging the deck chairs of who and how the shots are being called. Reforming the WTO the same. Reforming the WB and IMF or replacing them with other development banks which they have already began.
That Xi and Putin say they see the UN as being a key Institution doesn’t mean they don’t simultaneously mean implementing major REFORMS to create a NEW IMPROVED United Nations body that is very different than how the current one doesn’t work now in everyone’s best interests.
In fact in the Jan 2020 joint statement and in all the other speeches and Initiatives announced they point this out repeatedly in everything they say!
I am humbly suggesting if you do not see it, then you need to look much more closely to what THEY say and not what these other “commenters” are saying. Read the Text in full and pay attention the many qualifiers they apply to existing institutions and processes of the current “order”.
The single step of being able to stop unilateral sanctions being applied by ANY NATION on another (without UN approved decisions based on democratic votes) will massively change how the systems operate globally.
That is only one change of hundreds they are seeking to change in the current “global order” that the US West operates and enforces today with worldwide Military Oppression and DIRE ECONOMIC THREATS.
IF you and others cannot see these kinds of things in their statements then in my humble opinion, from what I can see, it must be you who isn’t paying close enough attention – because they are there – they are everywhere. 🙂
And lastly this “gender equality and empowerment of women” phrase isn’t “feminism” nor LGBTQi Gender fanaticism… (but if the WEF is saying one should be wary because they do speak with forked tongues, that is true)
BUT this is not an issue for China and Russia and many others because they’ve had gender equality introduced through their communist systems for over a century, it’s not for them, and most western countries seem ok have equal rights, the vote can run for elected office, can engage in was in the 1960s “men only jobs” and “women only jobs” … once upon a time it was unacceptable to be a single father!
[ But in some in the global south / Brics gender equality is a real cultural issue – but the approach of Putin/Xi Brics SCO et al is not to threaten or use force to make nations comply with a better “social/cultural norm” or “human rights” standards – which is what the US European Hegemony does aggressively and with extreme arrogance – iow NON-Interference Rules the New Rules ]
How could anyone not appreciate that or not see it being front and center of everything else XI/Putin and BRICS SCO (the Global South collectively) have to say about this kind of “new world order”?
It’s just 3 simple clear words – that do not mean what some people are trying to make them mean when they frankly don’t. Those words do not mean you are going to be forced at the point of a gun to live under evil totalitarian tyranny forever! Putin and Xi in fact want the complete opposite of that. That is as clear as day, to me. You may disagree.
But if you are saying above you believe “gender equality” is not a good thing for a society, meaning good for all people including children, and can’t accept that in some places it does not exist and women are treated worst the goats (for all kinds of reasons), then boy you really are out there on the borderlands.
Because these things (you listed) have nothing to do with everyday ‘normalised’ Feminism, or the minority version extreme ideological whacko men hating feminism which exists too.
And as for the WEF I believe the whole thing should be ignored, but that’s not going to happen, because it’s how these suckholes gain traction similar to think tanks, university targeting future extreme neoliberals and neocons and general back scratching in how these creeps get ahead and eventually can influence politics or themselves run for office or get great gigs on Corporate Boards and NGOs etc.
The WEF sucks and is anathema to Putin and Xi and everything they represent today and are endeavoring to change and build going forward.
Anyways, no biggy. Believe whatever you choose to. Nice chatting.
Apologies for such a long rave, but all kinds of related matters and thoughts came to mind as I wrote.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 4 2023 4:17 utc | 190

PS afterthought – This is of course only my own understanding, and others can and will see it differently. I can’t know everything. Xi and Putin could well be lying, I cannot know that if they are. I take them at their word in good faith. Because that is the history where these too are involved, in my opinion. I am not aware of any occasion where they were shown to be deceptive, intentionally manipulative or dishonest – to their own people or to other nations.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 4 2023 4:45 utc | 191

@ Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 4 2023 4:17 utc | 191
“The WEF sucks and is anathema to Putin and Xi and everything they represent today and are endeavoring to change and build going forward.”
Xi is partner in the WEF, again this year: https://www.weforum.org/events/annual-meeting-of-the-new-champions-2023

Posted by: Antonym | Sep 4 2023 5:14 utc | 192

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 4 2023 4:17 utc | 191
I am humbly suggesting if you do not see it, then you need to look much more closely to what THEY say and not what these other “commenters” are saying. Read the Text in full and pay attention the many qualifiers they apply to existing institutions and processes of the current “order”.
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You are making the same (talking down) accusation. You ignore again that in my first post I pasted in many of the Articles from the 22 BRICS Declaration itself, forming my opinions mainly from that text and the later 2023 Declaration. Your insistance that my opinions come from other people is maybe your way of avoiding forming your own opinion from reading the Articles yourself. In any case, they state that they on fully board with the Paris accord, the WTO, the IMF, the WHO, ‘multilateralism,’ and so on.
Now that last UN-WEF quote, as I pointed out, does not directly link with BRICS, but again since the two BRICS Declarations affirm so many of the same UN initiatives that UN and WEF signed off on together, that’s enough for me. They all support the Climate Change, the public-private partnership (aka BlackRock and international oligarchs in West, Russia and China ruling the world), feminism, sustainability and all these things which both the ‘Woke’ corporations and Russia and China and these Declarations are all on board with. It’s globalism deja vu all over again. As evidenced by the coordinated globalist response to covid; and now the no less coordinated rise of the RoW and Fall of the West, two sides of the same coin. For those with eyes to see.
Let us just agree to disagree. You see different things in the Articles than I. No problem.

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 4 2023 5:39 utc | 193

@lavrov: PS:
I think part of what is confusing is that there is the bifurcation in play. So there is one strategy for the developed West and a different one for the undeveloped zones and perhaps a different one for China – which is the designated manufacturing hub for the world.
As you pointed out in your ‘rave’, some countries don’t have the same issues with gender etc. That misses the point, IMO. Rather, I think so-called ‘cultural marxism’ (a strange term) is being deliberately applied to the West to disorient and demoralize its society, and it’s working. For whatever reason, this is not being applied to the other polities – because bifurcation.
So it looks a lot like there are two opposing camps. But that’s how it looks to US voters viz Republicans and Democrats. There are two Parties with real differences. But also: they are both part of the same coordinated Uniparty. I am suggesting that the seeming geopolitical bifurcation is essentially the same.
Of course I might be wrong. Indeed, I hope I am. But again: having seen what happened with covid…
Here’s another take from a good website with a similar conclusion which I just stumbled on tonight:
https://off-guardian.org/2023/05/19/answering-our-critics-on-the-russia-question/

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 4 2023 5:59 utc | 194

This is a dead thread, I guess, but to round it off, the closing argument in the off-guardian piece linked above. Because it illustrates a very important point, one We The People often get trapped in. Think in terms of US politics: If you favor Trump that means you disfavor Biden. But then you find out Trump is bad and start saying so. That doesn’t mean you now favor Biden though most Trumpistas will accuse you of that. The writers of this piece are in the same bind. Having criticized the West & Empire for years and praised Russia-Putin, they are having a change of heart (as I have been first since covid especially but not only). But that doesn’t mean that they are now pro Empire.
What is really interesting about this is that it gives us a chance to examine our own overly simplistic mental habits, flipping from pro to anti, yes or no. In fact, situations are always far more muddled, nuanced, bipolar, mixed. As this excerpt shows very well.

So, we think the real question is – in this stark new post-2020 reality what does “pro-Russian” (or pro-American, or pro-any state anywhere) even mean any more?
What big moral questions divide them? What real options are we offered?
– Being coerced into getting poisoned by SputnikV rather than Astra Zeneca?
– Being locked up and lied to by Biden as opposed to Putin?
– Getting Agenda 2030 served up via Moscow as opposed to DC or London?
– Having your CBDC in programable dollars as opposed to programable rubles?
Currently to be “pro-Russia” is to be pro-Globalism, pro-Agenda 2030, pro-phony pandemic legislation and pro-clot shots.
We absolutely are not pro any of those options.
Are you?
So are you NATO shills now?
Yes. Yes, we are.
Even though we have literally never endorsed a single action NATO has taken. Ever. Even though we have only ever pointed out NATO is, and always has been, a force for chaos and evil in this world…
we are now “NATO shills”.
That’s the great function of the fake binary – it turns intelligent people into human on/off switches, blinded to nuance or free thought.
If you don’t side with Team A, then you must be siding with Team B. You have to pick a side even if the only difference between them seems to be the color of their jerseys. And if you refuse to pick a team someone will pick one for you and insist you are in it.
What we want to say to these people is this –
If you strip off your pre-2020 preconceptions, turn down the feel-good, psychologically manipulative speeches from beloved leaders – what government anywhere is currently working for a better world, or any world beyond the Great Reset, carbon-monitored Agenda 2030 New Normal hellscape?
I think the answer to that, dear binary-hugger, is – none of them.
This is where we are right now and why we are no longer saying things that can be defined as “pro-Russian”.
Our values haven’t changed. The situation has changed. The reality on the ground has changed.
But wait, I hear some of you cry, ok Putin may be shilling for covid and ok, he might be promoting the same globalist nightmare as every other major world leader..
but you can’t deny he’s fighting Nazis in Ukraine!
Surely this gives Russia back some small amount of moral ascendancy?
Well, in so far as Russia – or anyone – is genuinely fighting Nazis they will continue to have our support, which is why we were quick to point out last year the hypocrisy and deception of the Western media version of events in Ukraine.
But let’s not be hopelessly naive…
I mean that’s Propaganda 101 after all – if you want to quell dissent, divert attention from unpopular policies and rally faltering support – start a war.
Sorry, I mean a “special military operation”.
Do we agree Russia is suddenly absolved and suddenly a righteous cause again just because it moves some troops into Ukraine – while at the same time continuing the same anti-human agenda of lies and fear porn?
Well, surprisingly, no, we don’t. Any more than we think this is about Putin “defending humanity” against Schwab, Gates and the globalist hordes.
But we’ll be talking more about this curious, contradictory and puzzling “not-war” – and its stenographers and apologists amongst the alt media – very soon…

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 4 2023 6:15 utc | 195

Scorpion RE “You see different things in the Articles (?) than I.”
No, not necessarily.
I think it is more about I see things that exist in the texts of the many official statements by Xi and Putin which you and your two referees do not see at all.
Then, even when I point out a couple of examples to you here you still cannot see any of them and then you change the subject, switch tacks, accuse of doing things I have not done, and then shut the whole issue down entirely.
No worries. I’m good.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 4 2023 14:21 utc | 196

” Xi is partner in the WEF, again this year: (2023) “
Posted by: Antonym | Sep 4 2023 5:14 utc | 193
Oh really? Where is he a “partner”? Where is his speech? Where is he waxing lyrical about how much he loves the WEF and Schwab and what they stand for? I’m not seeing it, and think sometimes we don;t look close enough to what the reality is – instead we buy into the PR / Propaganda without even thinking about it or wondering if it is true .. let alone actually looking at the factual details.
Hypothetical: If the WEF held their Entrepreuers Forum on a privately hired luxury cruise ship instead of in hotel in Tianjin, China, would this mean the Captain or the Company CEO was the “partner in the WEF”? 🙂
The Premier did speak- it is only the polite thing to do.

A shifting world can be revelatory in many ways. In a nutshell, what is lacking in today’s world is communication, not estrangement; cooperation, not confrontation; openness, not isolation; peace, not conflict. We must act on the vision of a community with a shared future for mankind put forward by President Xi Jinping, and jointly implement the Global Development Initiative, the Global Security Initiative and the Global Civilization Initiative. We need to press ahead by following the logic of historical progress, develop by riding the tide of our times, and work hard to build an even better world.
— Li Qiang, Premier of the People’s Republic of China
“>https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2023/06/amnc23-premier-li-qiangs-opening-remarks-at-the-14th-annual-meeting-of-the-new-champions/

Where does he promote America’s or Europe’s or the WEFs version of uneven globalization for some not all, distorted market economies, unfree manipulated and blocked Trade with Unilateral Illegal Sanctions imposed across the board, a minority controlled unstable system with an unsustainable future?
Here is Chairman Xi’s 2022 remote Speech at the WEF
https://www.fmprc.gov.cn/eng/zxxx_662805/202201/t20220118_10629754.html
READ IT … where does he praise the work of the WEF or Schwab or their ideals? He does talk a lot about China and his own high ideals, as did the Premier this year.
Don’t believe me, make of it what you will.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 4 2023 14:51 utc | 197

Then, even when I point out a couple of examples to you here you still cannot see any of them and then you change the subject, switch tacks, accuse of doing things I have not done, and then shut the whole issue down entirely.
Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 4 2023 14:21 utc | 197
Well you got into ‘plowing the sea’ there. Others do the same but they do not flood
the blog with their pov. Maybe you now better understand my disgust with that one.The other
one isn’t worth a reply either but is not all over every thread so is tolerable imo.
Thanks again for your time and effort.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Sep 4 2023 15:37 utc | 198

@ Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 4 2023 14:51 utc | 198
thanks for your posts, links and input… very generous and helpful..

Posted by: james | Sep 4 2023 15:45 utc | 199

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Sep 4 2023 14:21 utc | 197
Scorpion RE “You see different things in the Articles (?) than I.”
No, not necessarily.
I think it is more about I see things that exist in the texts of the many official statements by Xi and Putin which you and your two referees do not see at all.
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Now you are just being rude. I gave you several short passages of direct text from the Declarations supporting climate change etc. and there are more detailed references to specific accords with WHO, IMF etc. These are black and white, crystal clear. We just interpret their significance differently.
You seem unable to understand that two people can view the same facts and come to different conclusions. Rather you infer stupidity or bad faith on the part of someone who does not agree with you. Not a good look for you. And if nothing else, it’s bad for your liver!! Relax.
I just wrote a post about this – and the opinion therein does not entirely accord with the referees you cannot get your of your head! (Luckily, I don’t have that problem when reading opinion pieces.) I have been fussing over the degree to which the Multipolarists are aligned with The Hegemon-WEF axis and have come to a conclusion about it (they are, and are hiding it somewhat), but my view about that is not extreme. Mainly, I can now drop being uncomfortable with the Angels versus Demons narratives so many on both sides now espouse and which have always regarded as naively unrealistic.
In that regard, one nuanced passage from Iain Davis I do like so share below.
The post: http://tinyurl.com/27paz9ba
The Davis passage:


“The notion that a political leader, or anyone for that matter, is entirely bad or good, is puerile. The same consideration can be given to nation-states, political systems or even models of world order. The character of a human being, a nation or a system of global governance is better judged by their or its totality of actions.
Whatever we consider to be the source of “good” and “evil,” it exists in all of us at either ends of a spectrum….
Nation-states and global governance structures, though immensely complex, are formed and led by people. They are influenced by a multitude of forces. Given the added complications of chance and unforeseen events, it is unrealistic to expect any form of “order” to be either entirely good or entirely bad.”

You can have the last word, no doubt with more insults about referees and how only your view is the correct one. Have at it! I’m done.

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 4 2023 16:07 utc | 200