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August 30, 2023
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Silk Road Briefing reports…. Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Aug 30 2023 11:42 utc | 1 Interesting data first commenter. But if we’re counting GDPS OF all the countries having free trade agreements with the BRICS, shouldn’t we follow the same methodology and add GDPs of all countries having free trade agreements to US total? Posted by: Nate | Aug 30 2023 11:57 utc | 2 Inviting an Imam to condemn dead US soldiers by a sitting US President is a sore point for my values when it comes to demonstrating leadership for a nation that elected him as its President. Respect for the dead, including those who died for their country, is of value in some places. Posted by: RB | Aug 30 2023 12:17 utc | 3 Posted by: RB | Aug 30 2023 12:17 utc | 3 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 30 2023 12:50 utc | 4 RYBAR latest: Posted by: SlowSoft | Aug 30 2023 13:34 utc | 5 I just did some dogging. Shoigu’s father is from a minority and his mother is a Ukrainian born Russian. It all makes sense now. He’s doing the finest inside job. Posted by: onotnahs | Aug 30 2023 13:43 utc | 6 Chinese officials cucked Vladimir Putin. Posted by: Pékin’s Russia | Aug 30 2023 13:49 utc | 7 Le Figaro says Ukies did the Nord Stream bombing. Posted by: warrenmax | Aug 30 2023 14:08 utc | 8 (yurasumy)🇷🇺🇺🇦🇬🇧⚡️⚡️⚡️#Inside Posted by: SlowSoft | Aug 30 2023 14:09 utc | 9 In its current state this nation is absolutely pathetic and it’s not just the fault of Germany’s political class – a large part of its citizenry is fully on board with this. In the long run, once deindustrialization starts to kick in, there might be an explicitly anti-american backlash. But because both centrist and left-wing parties are busy felating Washington this will go hand in hand with a dramatic right-wing shift. Posted by: Schlachterhund | Aug 30 2023 14:12 utc | 10 In its current state this nation is absolutely pathetic and it’s not just the fault of Germany’s political class – a large part of its citizenry is fully on board with this. In the long run, once deindustrialization starts to kick in, there might be an explicitly anti-american backlash. But because both centrist and left-wing parties are busy felating Washington this will go hand in hand with a dramatic right-wing shift. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 30 2023 14:36 utc | 11 I just did some dogging. Shoigu’s father is from a minority and his mother is a Ukrainian born Russian. It all makes sense now. He’s doing the finest inside job. Posted by: SCCC | Aug 30 2023 14:41 utc | 12 The pro russian accounts I’m following are posting concerning amounts of stuff related to EU economy and US elections, is it really that bad on the battlefield for RU right now? Posted by: Salty Oskar | Aug 30 2023 14:55 utc | 13 There’s no shortage of Russian doomerism if things are actually going poorly on the battlefield (and seemingly often when it’s not). Posted by: Runningflame | Aug 30 2023 14:58 utc | 14 no the pro-russian accounts have always regurgitated all kinds of conservative talking points (if that’s what you’re seeing) when they aren’t tweeting about the war. i stopped reading chat in just about every tg channel because of this, since the userbase was the same, and if i see them tweet about anything not related to the war i just keep doomscrolling. the only notable commentator that was not staunchly right-wing was dd, who was a socialist and seemed to actually have a good deal of integrity, but basically everyone else in her channel was the total opposite. Posted by: gay manta ray | Aug 30 2023 15:02 utc | 15 Russia is beeing played like a headless chicken Posted by: SlowSoft | Aug 30 2023 15:29 utc | 16 I see an infestation of fleas on this thread.
I take it as a measure of Ukrainian and Maerican impotence and their increasingly obviously desperate situation, that your frustration and leads you to weakly attempt to provoke like this. Shadowbanned was more sophisticated, this is just sad. Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Aug 30 2023 16:11 utc | 18 Nord Stream is trending because Tucker Carlson in Budapest, said: Posted by: Toby C | Aug 30 2023 16:16 utc | 19 A lot of cope posting by Western supporters today. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 30 2023 16:22 utc | 20 Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Aug 30 2023 16:11 utc | 19 Posted by: SlowSoft | Aug 30 2023 16:30 utc | 21 It’s too incoherent to even reply to. Go home! You’re drunk. Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Aug 30 2023 16:32 utc | 22
It is not. Posted by: Debunking Tony | Aug 30 2023 16:32 utc | 23 Toby C | Aug 30 2023 16:16 utc | 20– I see we have a flea that doesn’t understand what becomes of all those Ukies being buried means or the fact that old graves are being exhumed to provide space for new arrivals–what do you think’s done with the old remains? Clearly you’re unaware that graves were once harvested for their remains to provide fertilizer for tired soil in England during the 19th Century. Nov22,is the 60 year anniversary of top-secret occupation of USA by london controlled by state department Posted by: Merlin | Aug 30 2023 16:43 utc | 26 Posted by: Debunking Tony | Aug 30 2023 16:32 utc | 24 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 30 2023 16:47 utc | 27 A lot of cope posting by Western supporters today. Posted by: Lyche | Aug 30 2023 16:53 utc | 28 https://www.rt.com/business/582083-iphone-imports-rise-russia Posted by: Kalinka | Aug 30 2023 17:01 utc | 29
Posted by: Shmoody | Aug 30 2023 17:12 utc | 30 Iirc this guys daughter bought an LA mansion on HGTV Posted by: skullduggery | Aug 30 2023 17:15 utc | 31 I don’t want to jump the gun, but a pattern is emerging here. An entire class of US trained officers in Africa, who see what’s going on in their countries, are becoming radicalized against French colonialism. That’s what is leading to this string of coups in recent years. Posted by: What People Do ? | Aug 30 2023 17:20 utc | 32 US commerce secretary rejected Chinese appeal to ease export controls Posted by: Myra | Aug 30 2023 17:39 utc | 33 Interesting data first commenter. But if we’re counting GDPS OF all the countries having free trade agreements with the BRICS, shouldn’t we follow the same methodology and add GDPs of all countries having free trade agreements to US total? Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Aug 30 2023 17:51 utc | 35 I’m consistently surprised by the apparently imbecility of your average Slava Ukraine NAFO types. Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Aug 30 2023 17:55 utc | 36 Plus, Biden tells Japan it’s fine and dandy if it dumps nuke water into Pacific. Global Times sees it as this political cartoon sees it, although others haven’t been quite as nice. Biden’s proven he’s toxic. Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Aug 30 2023 18:02 utc | 37 I do have to say that the fleas on this site would be better off sticking to writing comments on the likes of the Daily Mail; they are so outclassed by the regular commentators here that it is just embarrassing. Posted by: Paul_Zed | Aug 30 2023 18:15 utc | 38 Welp, poor Macron can’t even deal with one colony breaking away before the next one dumps him. Good fucking riddance. Hopefully, the Bongo gang is left to rot in jail until the worms deal with them. Posted by: Clueless Joe | Aug 30 2023 18:25 utc | 39 Le Figaro says Ukies did the Nord Stream bombing. Posted by: rk | Aug 30 2023 18:41 utc | 40
Worrying details, these idiots may soon find out. Posted by: unimperator | Aug 30 2023 18:54 utc | 41 Breaking news from BB:
History: They also said they had arrested the president’s son, Noureddin Bongo Valentin, and others for corruption and treason. Posted by: Jusses | Aug 30 2023 19:16 utc | 43 Posted by: unimperator | Aug 30 2023 18:54 utc | 42 Posted by: tesla | Aug 30 2023 19:56 utc | 44 That New Yorker piece is really something. Posted by: Figleaf23 | Aug 30 2023 20:30 utc | 45 Both of Estonia and Lithuania are developed countries, not ‘shitholes’. ‘Shitholes’ would be countries like Cambodia, Papua New Guinea, Niger… Posted by: Joke on U | Aug 30 2023 20:44 utc | 46 @ Kalinka | Aug 30 2023 17:01 utc | 30 Posted by: Figleaf23 | Aug 30 2023 20:58 utc | 47 The scum who seem to have invaded last night (my time) have one thing in common, that is even the few which appear to be responses to pushback at the delusional claims which the blow ins are spouting reply with come-backs so unspecific & generalised that they indicate two things: (i) they are trying to bail out a sinking ship with a sieve (ii)they are almost certainly low grade bots whose selection of claims are limited so as to appear to be able to ‘cover’ anything when it is obvious to blind Freddie even, that they cover nothing of of substance but are some silly attempt to generate pressure on the Russian Federation to act stupidly by acknowledging a handful of pin-pricks and in doing so escalate the conflict. RF is doing well without escalation and no amount of poorly thought through gp chat generated tosh will cause a shift in Russia warcraft or, of thinking humans’ support for that measured warcraft. Posted by: Debsisdead | Aug 30 2023 21:17 utc | 48
Let’s give money to some company that would actively be working with CIA and then blame the western bloc because Russia wouldn’t diversify its economy and would be an economic dwarf in comparaison of China, USA, EU and India. Posted by: Madara | Aug 30 2023 21:24 utc | 49 Russia should be really careful about China’s intentions, IMHO. Posted by: Shocked | Aug 30 2023 22:34 utc | 50 I thought this latest Caitlin Johnstone article was very funny. Posted by: pretzelattack | Aug 30 2023 22:38 utc | 51 https://www.rbc.ru/politics/29/08/2023/64edffd29a794770db9f07e6 is Russian source for people who wouldn’t believe Nexta and Newsweek. Posted by: Morene | Aug 30 2023 23:13 utc | 52 @ Shocked | Aug 30 2023 22:34 utc | 51 Posted by: malenkov | Aug 30 2023 23:23 utc | 53 Mitch McConnell froze up again, people are wondering what’s up. He’s fine, it’s a glitch in the Matrix. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 30 2023 23:31 utc | 54 Posted by: Shocked | Aug 30 2023 22:34 utc | 51 Posted by: unimperator | Aug 30 2023 23:36 utc | 55 …Baerbock herself voiced disappointment concerning the ineffectiveness of the sanctions – they started arguing that one shouldn’t trust World Bank data, that Baerbock doesn’t know what she’s talking about and that everything is fine. Completely delusional. But you can’t deny reality forever, it tends to eventually catch up with you. Posted by: Piotr Berman | Aug 30 2023 23:42 utc | 56 Posted by: Shocked | Aug 30 2023 22:34 utc | 51 Posted by: Piotr Berman | Aug 30 2023 23:53 utc | 57 Yes, it’s long, but there’s no way around that, “Russia Leveraging Development and Educational Aspects of National Projects” as historical context is required since few are aware of it. Complexities abound in our world and simplifying them is often the wrong tack. And in this case a lot of material needed to be introduced. And yes, a lot was cut, otherwise it would be twice as long. @ Piotr Berman | Aug 30 2023 23:42 utc | 57 Posted by: malenkov | Aug 30 2023 23:57 utc | 59 NATO sources report that British intelligence MI6, together with the SBU and the GUR, are planning new attacks on Russia from Poland, the Baltic countries, Finland and Japan. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 31 2023 0:17 utc | 60
Vladimir Putin will do nothing. You all know this. Posted by: Calice de Fer | Aug 31 2023 0:43 utc | 61 Bongo is the perfect name for a villainous family in a Rambo movie. Posted by: Jacq | Aug 31 2023 1:11 utc | 62 Bongo is the perfect name for a villainous family in a Rambo movie. Posted by: Nobody | Aug 31 2023 2:07 utc | 63 @ Biswapriya Posted by: Featherless | Aug 31 2023 2:36 utc | 64 Japan already got nuked twice, third time is the charm? Posted by: JuliaHin1984 | Aug 31 2023 3:03 utc | 65 The map, published on Monday by China’s Ministry of Natural Resources, lays claim to disputed land on its southern border with India and encompasses all of Taiwan. Off its southern coast, Beijing’s so-called “dashed line” captures huge tracts of the South China Sea, where islands, reefs and maritime zones are contested by half a dozen countries. ”
If Indians are smart, they should know,
? Posted by: denk | Aug 31 2023 3:12 utc | 66 As for the bloody japs… Posted by: denk | Aug 31 2023 3:42 utc | 67 BBC – Stephen Sackur – interviewed Peter Boehringer, AfD politician on 8/30/2023 – it is worth watching, how democratic election results in Germany do not amount to anything; Sackur was totally outmatched. I sense a beginning feeling of panic in the BBC. Posted by: fanto | Aug 31 2023 4:00 utc | 68 YT Posted by: denk | Aug 31 2023 4:05 utc | 69 Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Aug 30 2023 16:11 utc | 19 Posted by: Wondrous | Aug 31 2023 4:20 utc | 70 NAFO activists becoming more and more hysterical in the comments here is a symptom of how much khokhol galicians pigs are getting bled. Posted by: Timur | Aug 31 2023 4:28 utc | 71 There is no free will in Japan. Everything is decided by the US and its decision makers Posted by: sam | Aug 31 2023 5:04 utc | 72 Huawei has just announced its brand new 5g mobile phone, Mate60 Pro with indigenous chips, while Gina Romondo, the sanction chief, is still in Beijing. You don’t hear a blip of that in the western msm. The only story I could find was from reuters and a story on scmp. Posted by: cindy6 | Aug 31 2023 5:28 utc | 73 I just did some dogging. Posted by: Suresh | Aug 31 2023 6:47 utc | 74 What to think about the new prigozin video ? Posted by: Hans23 | Aug 31 2023 8:17 utc | 75 National Security Archive: Posted by: Gene Poole | Aug 31 2023 10:25 utc | 76 Tucker Carlson is doing this trip through Hungary, maybe some caught his interview with Orban. He did another speech yesterday, which I’d recommend if you have the time. Leaving Fox is the best thing eh ever did. I feel he is going to make an impact in the coming US election via his Twitter X media.
Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Aug 31 2023 10:26 utc | 77 https://t.me/Slavyangrad/61004
Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 31 2023 10:31 utc | 78 @LightYearsFromHome | Aug 30 2023 23:31 Posted by: zeke2u | Aug 31 2023 11:29 utc | 79 Hans23 @ 76
Maskirovka meets the surreal apocalypse, in Clown World everything is possible. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 31 2023 12:19 utc | 80 Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 31 2023 12:19 utc | 81 Posted by: jpc | Aug 31 2023 13:22 utc | 81 Wondrous | Aug 31 2023 4:20 utc | 71– There is no free will in Japan. Everything is decided by the US and its decision makers Posted by: Nokaz | Aug 31 2023 21:10 utc | 84 https://tiktok.com/@ivanvolkorus/video/7177308086502182150 Posted by: Lagneau | Aug 31 2023 22:53 utc | 85 Extensive, detailed plan for first 2 years in Office including dismantling much of the ‘Managerial State’ by Vivek R. Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 31 2023 19:55 utc | 84
Thank you for engaging on this issue. Sorry for the length Posted by: daffyDuct | Sep 1 2023 0:55 utc | 88 https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2023/08/31/the-disappearance-of-integrity-from-the-western-world/ China.. Posted by: denk | Sep 1 2023 2:58 utc | 90 China’s map aggression ahead of G20 summit Posted by: Antonym | Sep 1 2023 4:43 utc | 91 It has been quite some time since I have offered anything up to my fellow clientele of the bar for download. Not something I frequently do because I respect that this is b.’s site so only if something is suitably unobtainable and of sufficient interest. Posted by: Debsisdead | Sep 1 2023 6:18 utc | 92
Is it too early to make a judgement? Posted by: joey_n | Sep 1 2023 7:52 utc | 93 Certains étaient visiblement admirateurs des interventions de Prigogine avec ses 4 chargeurs de mitraillette sur le plastron et en veulent à Choïgou. Le cinoche, les complots et le manque de réalisme pour la maintenance de son avion l’ont tué, telle est la réalité. Posted by: Christophe Nicolas | Sep 1 2023 9:22 utc | 94 Posted by: Debsisdead | Sep 1 2023 6:18 utc | 93 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt2AuVQKpq0 Posted by: Christophe Nicolas | Sep 1 2023 9:22 utc | 95 Posted by: Bemildred | Sep 1 2023 14:55 utc | 97 Posted by: Debsisdead | Sep 1 2023 6:18 utc | 93 Posted by: john brewster | Sep 1 2023 14:59 utc | 98 Posted by: john brewster | Sep 1 2023 14:59 utc | 99 Type in Xinjiang on youtube and you soon realize the genocide stuff is true. The amount of stupid dancing uyghurs videos is funny. Like why even try with all this propaganda if u got nothing to hide Posted by: Accidentshappy | Sep 1 2023 15:20 utc | 100 |
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