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August 16, 2023
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Anyone care to comment. Posted by: jpc | Aug 16 2023 15:42 utc | 1 @ jpc | Aug 16 2023 15:42 utc | 1 Posted by: james | Aug 16 2023 15:49 utc | 2 that is like saying cia and friends will end nefarious ways, or shift to other continents which means – just a continuation of the same bs of manipulation thru money or other deceptive ways… Posted by: jpc | Aug 16 2023 16:02 utc | 3 (The terrorist organization) MI6 plans to send Ukrainian mercenaries to Africa. The “hit squad” will target vital infrastructure and Moscow-friendly leaders Posted by: unimperator | Aug 16 2023 16:06 utc | 4 is anyone on this site have a feeling this is last weeks of Elensky presidency…so now NAFO officials talking of trading territories to Russia for membership… Medvedev sarcastically said they will have to give up Kyiv and move to lvov if polish hyenas let them have it…hmmmmmmmmmmmm Posted by: jpc | Aug 16 2023 16:02 utc | 3 Posted by: Passerby | Aug 16 2023 16:09 utc | 6
Speaking of those nefarious ways, MI-6 prepares Ukrainian sabotage group for missions in Africa — source. Posted by: David Levin | Aug 16 2023 16:10 utc | 7 that is like saying cia and friends will end nefarious ways, or shift to other continents which means – just a continuation of the same bs of manipulation thru money or other deceptive ways… Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 16 2023 16:25 utc | 8 jpc @ 1
You believe what they say? Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 16 2023 16:30 utc | 9 Perhaps the CIA needs a new front organization since every big city in the US got it’s own “taste of Soros” through his sponsored District Attorneys. Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Aug 16 2023 16:46 utc | 10 Another week goes by and the zero line in the Donbas, Zaporizhzhia, and Kherson looks to be at a continual stalemate. Posted by: young | Aug 16 2023 17:00 utc | 11 30% of Argentines support the election of a lunatic who wants to decriminalize the sale of children and human organs. Posted by: Mathaus | Aug 16 2023 17:02 utc | 12 Anyone care to comment. Posted by: Martina | Aug 16 2023 17:19 utc | 13 @ David Levin | Aug 16 2023 16:10 utc | 7 Posted by: james | Aug 16 2023 17:21 utc | 14 i’m convinced by Martyanov and others that US doesnt have fieldable hypersonics. but what is the honest assessment of how the USA will act when it does? Posted by: TGL | Aug 16 2023 18:22 utc | 15 Assumptions: Posted by: Paul Damascene | Aug 16 2023 18:53 utc | 16 “This new revolt of the global south follows in the footsteps of previous movements, notably that of Gaddafi, who pushed for pan-Africanism and sought to replace the French Franc with an African currency based on the classical Libyan gold Dinar. Posted by: bevin | Aug 16 2023 18:57 utc | 17 Posted by: bevin | Aug 16 2023 18:57 utc | 18 Posted by: Membrum Virile | Aug 16 2023 19:09 utc | 18 Posted by: jpc | Aug 16 2023 15:42 utc | 1 Posted by: Colin | Aug 16 2023 19:11 utc | 19 Vijay Prashad’s overview of events in the Sahel (highly recommended):
https://consortiumnews.com/2023/08/16/niger-is-far-from-a-typical-coup/ Posted by: Aleph_Null | Aug 16 2023 19:14 utc | 20 Posted by: Paul Damascene | Aug 16 2023 18:53 utc | 17 Posted by: Colin | Aug 16 2023 19:15 utc | 21 that is like saying cia and friends will end nefarious ways, or shift to other continents which means – just a continuation of the same bs of manipulation thru money or other deceptive ways… Posted by: madmarc | Aug 16 2023 19:18 utc | 22 Paul Damascene @17 Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 16 2023 19:23 utc | 23 Membrum Virile@19 Posted by: bevin | Aug 16 2023 20:01 utc | 24 Why The Fire On Maui Happened: The Real Truth Posted by: kana | Aug 16 2023 20:03 utc | 25 Membrum Virile | Aug 16 2023 19:09 utc | 19– @ madmarc | Aug 16 2023 19:18 utc | 23 Posted by: james | Aug 16 2023 20:29 utc | 27 Balance can be found by embracing both extremes?! Me like. Posted by: Rae | Aug 16 2023 20:30 utc | 28 polling on German population: Posted by: AG | Aug 16 2023 20:31 utc | 29 @ AG | Aug 16 2023 20:31 utc | 30 Posted by: james | Aug 16 2023 20:37 utc | 30 It appears China has discerned the nature of the upcoming Camp David Summit between Japan, South Korea and the Outlaw US Empire as this Global Times editorial articulates:
This editorial builds on the one published on the 14th where China urged the International Community to Take Action to Oppose the ‘New Cold War.’ IMO, China has had plenty of opportunity to see how the Outlaw US Empire operates which propels its analysis and warnings. Global Times even cites South Korean media’s warnings to their president as this excerpt shows:
As I’ve reported several times, there’s a very strong link between South Korea’s MIC and the Outlaw US Empires that’s been forged even tighter with the proxy war in Ukraine where South Korea supplies Ukraine with 155mm shells and the Paladin SPA that uses them, as well as many other items. IMO, the Outlaw US Empire’s target is the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership where it could break several Asian trade blocs at one time. Thus, China’s overt warnings to its partners about what’s afoot. Why is the US doing this, and why does China allow it ? Posted by: Shocked | Aug 16 2023 20:47 utc | 32 Sejmon @5. I think so too. Looking at all that is occurring on the battlefield right now it looks to me as though a massive russian offensive is very close. Posted by: Jo Dominich | Aug 16 2023 21:37 utc | 33 Posted by: bevin | Aug 16 2023 20:01 utc | 25 Posted by: Membrum Virile | Aug 16 2023 21:45 utc | 34 Posted by: unimperator | Aug 16 2023 16:06 utc | 4 Posted by: spare_truth | Aug 16 2023 21:52 utc | 35 @4 and @36 Posted by: spare_truth | Aug 16 2023 22:14 utc | 36 @27 karlof 1 Posted by: botete | Aug 16 2023 22:16 utc | 37 While worthless senile doddering Joe Biden and FEMA send $700 per household (NOT per individual IN a household!) to Lahaina/Maui, luxury car sales in war torn Ukraine have broken a new record. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 16 2023 22:25 utc | 39 Posted by: kana | Aug 16 2023 20:03 utc | 26 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 16 2023 22:27 utc | 40 I’m also reading that Bazoum and family are held hostage and Bazoum threatened with execution if ECOWAS forces (or anyone else) attacks Niger. Posted by: botete | Aug 16 2023 22:28 utc | 41 Earlier today I tweeted/Xeeted at Elon and Zuck that I’d fight them both at the same time for a hefty $ sum, to be donated to a charity of my choosing: My checking account. FWIW I am definitely serious.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 16 2023 22:30 utc | 42 Around 15 mins segues into Europe, Crooke specifically mentioning a new paper by opposition leading party AfD (with growing momentum I gather?) proposing that the EU project has failed and Europe must return to a federation of sovereign states. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 16 2023 22:30 utc | 43 This is some amazing political artwork in the great tradition of the 19th century French caricaturists like Daumier, British Punch, and artists like George Grosz, Sue Coe. He has a find hand too, he can really draw. Reminds me a bit of Ben Garrison but more anarchist than from the right. Anyways, great stuff, wish I’d discovered him before I got jabbed. Others here might grok: Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 16 2023 22:56 utc | 45 Kana @ 26, Tom Q Collins @ 41:
News now being reported is that Hawaiian Electric Company is now facing a class action lawsuit over the deaths of at least 99 people for not shutting off the power supply during a period of high winds just before the wildfires began. Posted by: Refinnejenna | Aug 16 2023 22:56 utc | 46 botete | Aug 16 2023 22:16 utc | 38– Acc.to the latest reports of “The ground frontlines”, UAF have made “some success” in Sothern directions (RF-1st.Line region). Now, what then ? Posted by: spare_truth | Aug 16 2023 22:58 utc | 48 @karlof at no. 48 Posted by: botete | Aug 16 2023 23:20 utc | 49 Russian general reports on US involvement in possible upcoming pandemic:
New one by Aurelian: https://aurelien2022.substack.com/p/the-performance-is-over 41 Palestinian children have been killed by Apartheid Israel’s security forces since the beginning of 2023. Posted by: Menz | Aug 16 2023 23:32 utc | 51 New analysis by Aurelian about how and why the West is falling apart. This one about how managerial class mainly performs rather than actually does and increasingly cannot tell the difference.
@ Posted by: kana | Aug 16 2023 20:03 utc | 26 Posted by: Richard L | Aug 16 2023 23:53 utc | 53 Just a quick post at bedtime. Music will help healing. Because all things end. Gave me a lump in my throat. Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 17 2023 0:02 utc | 54 Posted by: unimperator | Aug 16 2023 16:06 utc | 4 Posted by: Suresh | Aug 17 2023 0:21 utc | 55 Hi guys, I’m kind of new here and was wondering about peoples views on the following. Posted by: Just a grunt | Aug 17 2023 0:35 utc | 56 RFK on bio labs: Posted by: AG | Aug 17 2023 0:38 utc | 57 I have just been to follow David Levin’s link about MI6 training terrorists from Ukraine to cause trouble in Africa, we all know where they will kick off in the Sahel desert of West Africa and I came across this posted to Tass two hours ago
So what some of us predicted has come true. I still have doubts that ecowas will actually send a massive invasion force as the risks are too high but the need to protect all of the breakaway states Niger, Burkina Faso & Mali while Chad remains a bit of a cypher as it is led by a military junta which has been supported by France from time to time, hence both ‘sides’ visiting it since Niger’s coup, means that the new government will need to devote considerable resources protecting all of it’s borders (remember Niger is land-locked) whilst Ukies posing as Wagner men and amerika terror contractors ISIS/Daesh and al Quaeda cause all sorts of trouble in the Sahel . Posted by: Debsisdead | Aug 17 2023 0:59 utc | 58 Debsisdead | Aug 17 2023 0:59 utc | 58 Posted by: bevin | Aug 17 2023 1:23 utc | 59 “As William Gruff points out in some countries coups are more democratic than elections and Niger, Mali and Burkina Faso appear to be three of them.” Posted by: oracle | Aug 17 2023 1:41 utc | 60 Via a comment to Aurelien’s latest about how a group in Europe preparing for mayhem, preparing to step in as organizing force to help lead a post-democracy world.
Group is called Common Purpose (after Communist Party). re:bevin | Aug 17 2023 1:23 utc | 59 Posted by: Debsisdead | Aug 17 2023 1:51 utc | 62 Here is another link. It’s to a Patrick Lawrence story on Niger. And it’s pretty good. Posted by: bevin | Aug 17 2023 2:09 utc | 63 bevin 59 Posted by: Giyane | Aug 17 2023 2:15 utc | 64 Then there is Alan MacLeod on ECOWAS Posted by: bevin | Aug 17 2023 2:16 utc | 65 Well the Black Agenda Report article was much more supportive of Niger than I dared hope. There is certainly much more of a link between some of the African terrorist groups and capitalism than it appears is the case. Posted by: Debsisdead | Aug 17 2023 2:17 utc | 66 OK Sorry to be a bore but this report of The Economist’s poll in Niger is priceless: Posted by: bevin | Aug 17 2023 2:24 utc | 67 In the last not Ukraine thread nobody responded to my comment on Yoti. It turns out that this so-called Home Office approved ID verification company is just an extension of French Snapchat for teens Yubo. Posted by: Giyane | Aug 17 2023 2:33 utc | 68 Posted by: kana | Aug 16 2023 20:03 utc | 26 Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 17 2023 2:50 utc | 69 “It would be a mistake to see these men as from the left since they are moved by anger at the failure of the elites and of Western policy. They do not come to power with a well-worked out agenda built from left political traditions.” Posted by: K | Aug 17 2023 3:14 utc | 70 Here is a snippet from Andy Merriman’s blogpost “John Berger and Gramsci in Rome: Personal Reflections” —
https://andymerrifield.org/2023/08/11/john-berger-and-gramsci-in-rome-personal-reflections/ Posted by: suzan | Aug 17 2023 3:24 utc | 71 In one way the Hawaiian bushfire is comparable to australia’s that is the existence of eucalypts whose fast growth has encouraged the unthinking to replant with eucalypts, frequently in areas that have been extensively milled to make common lands seem as though they are green and bushy even after rapacious timber corporations have destroyed thousand year old forests. Posted by: Debsisdead | Aug 17 2023 3:32 utc | 72 I have heard anecdotally that there is concern among parents of young girls (two independent families) these girls at age 7 begin to develop axillary and pubic hair. These parents think that this may have something to do with the Covid pandemic, or with the vaccination. The medical publications are silent about this. I do not know what to think about it. Any other opinions? Posted by: fanto | Aug 17 2023 3:35 utc | 73 fanto 73 Posted by: Giyane | Aug 17 2023 4:06 utc | 74 Jonathan Cook on the climate crisis: Posted by: Thurl | Aug 17 2023 4:10 utc | 75 Somalis fully understand that Islamistvterror is from USUKIS. David Xameron when he was politically alive was very keen to develope Somali oilfields. Haiy niya. Shameless . I was going to say dog, but dogs are quite respectful compared with Tory politicians. Posted by: Giyane | Aug 17 2023 4:10 utc | 76 I watched the RFK interview with Tucker Carlson and noticed some, to me, concerning errors on RFK Jr’s part. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 17 2023 4:16 utc | 77 Posted by: suzan | Aug 17 2023 3:24 utc | 71
Interesting how it echoes current times. Of course what is now happening is a continuing of a long process, the change from an old civilizational culture into a modernist, secular something else. It seems to be advancing in waves; there is a large push forward and then a quiet period for a while, then another push, another pause…. Posted by: fanto | Aug 17 2023 3:35 utc | 73 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 17 2023 4:27 utc | 79 Regarding my post #77, 2nd timestamp re: William J. Perry, Clinton’s SoD, “threatening to resign” over NATO expansion:
RFK Jr. needs to brush up on this stuff before he goes and puts his foot in his mouth. And again, he’s a useful idiot for the settler colonial apartheid Zionist wannabe ethnostate, Israel. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 17 2023 4:31 utc | 81 Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 17 2023 2:50 utc | 69 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 17 2023 4:35 utc | 82 Posted by: bevin | Aug 16 2023 18:57 utc | 18 Posted by: Grishka | Aug 17 2023 4:42 utc | 83 botete | Aug 16 2023 23:20 utc | 50– Mad Albright Posted by: denk | Aug 17 2023 4:53 utc | 85 Still no replies, likes, or engagement on my (100% good faith) Twitter offer to fight both Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg at the same time for $100,000 – donated to the charity of my checking account (which would mean a SIZEABLE donation to MoA!). Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 17 2023 4:59 utc | 86 https://wolfstreet.com/2023/08/16/ten-year-treasury-yield-hits-15-year-high-as-market-comes-out-of-denial-grapples-with-higher-for-longer-tsunami-of-issuance-qt/ Posted by: Maney | Aug 17 2023 5:05 utc | 87 Sleepless night so here we go nice and early here in the U.K. Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 17 2023 5:09 utc | 88 https://www.yahoo.com/news/fact-check-biden-tells-three-230033705.html Posted by: pretzelattack | Aug 17 2023 5:30 utc | 89 Posted by: pretzelattack | Aug 17 2023 5:30 utc | 89 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 17 2023 5:39 utc | 90 Maybe someone who knows Norwegian could look at Posted by: Passerby | Aug 17 2023 5:40 utc | 91 Posted by: Passerby | Aug 17 2023 5:40 utc | 91 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 17 2023 5:43 utc | 92 You must watch at least the first 10 minutes of this 1-hr, 8-min video about the most important issue on earth — Nuclear Holocaust. Posted by: blues | Aug 17 2023 5:55 utc | 93 The evil commies burned Hawaii! Posted by: Surferket | Aug 17 2023 6:12 utc | 94 Maybe someone who knows Norwegian could look at Posted by: waynorinorway | Aug 17 2023 6:23 utc | 95 @ bevin | Aug 17 2023 2:09 utc | 63 with the report of African countries going under the China/Russia “umbrella” Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 17 2023 6:34 utc | 96 @95 Oops! Stian Jenssen. The BS and the BSers all look the same at this point. Posted by: waynorinorway | Aug 17 2023 6:35 utc | 97 Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 16 2023 22:41 utc | 44 Posted by: Membrum Virile | Aug 17 2023 6:45 utc | 98 Re waynorinorway | Aug 17 2023 6:23 utc | 95 Posted by: Debsisdead | Aug 17 2023 6:46 utc | 99 Sorry Norsk is what I should have said, if there is ever a chance of putting my foot in it I usually find it. Posted by: Debsisdead | Aug 17 2023 6:50 utc | 100 |
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